Krupp und Krause - Krupp and Krause (West German Pro-GDR Song)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- A song from West Germany advocating for the recognition of East Germany, which would later be achieved in 1973. The titular characters of "Krupp and Krause" are a reference to an East German film of the same name, of which "Krupp" is a further reference to the monopolist Krupp Family.
Performer: The Munich Song Group (Die Münchner Songgruppe)
Year recorded: 1970
Image: Flags of West and East Germany.
didn't realise my music was missing explanations of Marxist surplus value til now
Graham Rudy Mi trovas ĝin amuza, ke tiu kanto esence klarigas marksisma ekonomia teorio en bona vojo
Jamiethecommie Mi ŝategas ĝin. Mi aŭskultas kanton, kioj estas la vortoj? pri sekso aŭ drogoj? ne, pri la ekonomia teorio de marksismo!
Graham Rudy fucking esperanto
Graham Rudy get a Real language
Ridiga!
The guitar in the background is pretty sick, not gonna lie.
That three note riff is like having jimi hendrix on the track
I'm your 300th like
Imagine being like: "My music doesn't explain the basic Marxist theory."
DIES IST DIE REINE WAHRHEIT UND NICHTS ALS DIE WAHRHEIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!‼‼‼‼‼‼‼‼‼
This sounds like it could be a song played in a children's TV show to explain basic marxian economics
True.
i dont think kid know what proletariat is.
@@superknightlol Well, they would if they listened to the lyrics
I dislike the notion of forcing politics on children
definitely educate them, but don't indoctrinate them
or else we aren't any better than the fascists who run the world
@@gearsie_ well it's better to teach children not to be socialist then to see what happens if socialism was tried one more time
This song. Ive listened to it for atleast 2 years on and off again and i just love it!
"five marks"
five Marx
Marx.
Is this song secretly trying to push communism?
5 Marx isn't enough
It would be more communist if it were like "4 Marks" so it could be "4 Marx" which could mean "For Marx".
***** sometimes we have to make concessions
Jokes!? Are you fucking stupid?
Владимир Путин
What about uuuuhhhh humor
It took me two years to realize this is a song from West Germany promoting communism (I think. I may be wrong.)
You are correct. The GDR- German Democratic Republic- is the "communist" side, while the artists here are from the Western/capitalist side. This is a pro-communism song from capitalist West Germany.
@@SouthCom1917 medicare dor all
@@readisgooddewaterkant7890 medicare *dor* all
@@ausore9832 Medicare for all
@@TankMarko Medicare **dor** all
For Krupp is a monopolist
And Krause is a proletarian !
This is the class contrast
Damn this song kick ass
Edit: for everyone reading this thread, i am going to stop answering! It was a wonderfull discution we all had, but i am getting tired, farewell!
Non edit: its just communist shit
@@arturg.j.167 Better than capitalist shit
@@David-xb9ep well, im sure that starving to death its not better than capitalism
@@arturg.j.167 oh yes being a 2 economic power 60 years is starving to death
@@David-xb9ep holodomor 👌
The virgin Krupp vs the chad Krause
YEAH IM CHAD
virgin bourgeoisie vs. CHAD PROLETARIAT
The virgin Bolshiwiki VS the CHAD MONARCHIST
@@sergeantsharkseant Better Red Than Inbred
Crow Well said comrade
Can't believe this song outdid the fella who wrote a summary of Das Kapital by compressing a whole part of it into a 3 minute song
Link 🙏🙏🙏
@@benjaminmariangel2865Soldaten sind nicht alle gleich
@@benjaminmariangel2865 I believe he is reffering to Cafiero's Compendium of Das Kapital.
Браво!
Genius is often found in odd places.
Krause is /ourguy/ for sure
*/ourFULLCOMMUNIST/*
/ourguy/ /ourgy/ /orgy/
/our future Stalin/
Commieball sorry i like krap better cuz it remains of real traditional germany and no i am not a nazi or anything
G o m m i e no Germany besides the politics.
I didn't know that this song existed! I like it!
I know this is a german communsit song but cant we just stop to aprrciate the word
"Klassengegensatz"
@Franz-Rainer Schranzeimer
Yes
I dont understand the "but". The fact that it is a german communist song explaining the basic socialist principle makes it even better.
Also “Wirtschaftshimmel, der”
@@sieyes9356 what about arbeitsstelenmarkt
@@RandomPerson-yq1qk because at least he has not fallen into ruin in communism
I read das kapital when I could’ve got a condensed 3 minute version.
I should be reading theory, but I am watching this.
Marxist political theory?
This is theory
What you should be doing is stop being a misanthropic communist.
@@indigenouseuropean6932 that's rich coming from a white nationalist
@@NotBamOrBing White nationalism is simply people of European ethnic background advocating for their rights (in their own countries that they created, mind you), but it's no surprise that left-wing vermin such as yourself would oppose it.
I do not understand this song but I love to listen it again and again, even I have saved this song in my phone to listen in the bed.
Um there are lyrics
*Pro GDR members*
Well...it’s 1982 we need to get with the times...music is changing...hmmm...
*Krupp und Krause INTENSIFIES*
1972 actually*
Song is actually from Munich (west Germany)
When a music explain communism better than a book...
I love how Germans are, *S2 DDR*
S2 ?
@@Schlohmotion are u blind its a heart
@@lazarpejic6415 Thank you very much. Now I see it!
@@lazarpejic6415 I'm just stupid.
@@Schlohmotion Same dude at least we're Not krupp
Everyone gangsta til the German kid starts singing this in class and its the 80s
Seventies.
There's a GDR film of the name guys
I love gdr and communist btw
No need to get to excited about the GDR, they were extremely authoritarian just like their Stalinist puppet masters.
Socialism without that shit is much more desirable.
i know i know it's just better then some communist countries, including my country
so that's the cause i love ddr
@@rippspeck Socialism without authoritarianism doesn't exist.
this feeling its ... eargasm
EVETTTT
Solidaritat,
Krause is a good man
*comrade
This is a nice song
Okay 👌
The best socialist music is the type that has Marxist analysis of Wages
Zufällig hierher gekommen. Absolut top Daumen hoch.
The Communist Manifesto in 3 minutes and 20 seconds
I still cant believe we changed our beautiful german mark for the Euro.
Why is it bad? I dont need to exchange money and can use euros almost all over the eu
@@krichenboi the mark was a lot more valuable than the Euro. You got way more rubel, pounds, dollar and so on per mark than with the Euro. I gladly exchange and get more money than having a disgusting (i mean visually) unstable currency.
@@ivanderschreckliche8385 well the euro did anger the population because of giant value changes (prices grew double and the wages didnt grew at all)
@@krichenboi exactly one of the many reasons why it sucked.
@@ivanderschreckliche8385 ok
Do you even live in germany
My favorite music! :)
Z.S.P GDAŃSK hahaha, powodzenia przy anarchii
Meine - auch!
Fuck Kerensky
Ai, ai, Kerenski!
When I first listened to this song I only read West German song, not the pro-DDR part, I thought it was pro capitalism. I was confused because the lyrics didn't really make capitalism sound good. Then I realized that what they said actually made sense.
I can't believe a song made me a communist
It sounds good in theory but people don’t like jointly owning things like companies there will always be Krups communism just eliminates the chance for normal people to be Krups
Welcome to the club comrade
Welcome to the club fam
What kind of communism? Don't say youre are stalinist
Well to be fair that don't matter i hate any form of leftist except distributist, mutualist and some form of socialism
Ah yes, the song I use to explain simple Marxist economics to capitalists
I need to start doing this now-
Marxist "Economics" = "Muh class consciousness! Muh labour theory of value! Muh 'dialectics'!"
@@jibrilly muh one guy makes millions, billions a year, millions of people struggle to pay rent and food
@@jibrilly idiota
@@jibrilly non-marxist "economics" = the rationality of irrationality
Una profonda spaccatura attraversa la Germania.
Divide la nazione -
"Non è una novità, certamente -
Ma di interesse!
L'esempio "Krupp e Krause" spiega
il vero corso della
divisione tedesca - ascoltato! -
Come una domanda di classe!
Perché Krupp è un monopolista
e Krause è un proletario -
Questa è l'opposizione di classe che
tutti capiscono!
Mr. Krupp, il capo dell'industria
Nel club del signore più ricco
possiede fabbriche, miniere di carbone che
sfamano molte migliaia di uomini!
Come una delle decine di migliaia di persone,
Krause è
sempre al lavoro nella fabbrica di Krupp - il
suo salario orario: cinque marchi!
Perché Krupp è un monopolista
e Krause è un proletario -
Questa è l'opposizione di classe che
tutti capiscono!
Cosa produce Krause ogni ora
Vale più di cinque marchi -
il valore aggiunto è raccolto da Krupp
Perché la fabbrica è una!
E migliaia di colleghi sono
come Krause ogni giorno -
Mr. Krupp prende sempre il valore aggiunto
come plusvalore !
Perché Krupp è un monopolista
e Krause è un proletario -
Questa è l'opposizione di classe che
tutti capiscono!
L'economia è tesa?
Il mercato del lavoro
si chiama Krause »Partner Krupps«
Perché poi è richiesto!
Ma l'economia è torbida
La situazione di ordine flau
Poi minaccia Kraus in
licenziamento, riduzione salariale!
Perché Krupp è un monopolista
e Krause è un proletario -
Questa è l'opposizione di classe che
tutti capiscono!
La divisione qui in questo stato si
spiega così in questo modo:
Ciò che Krupp al potere e alla ricchezza ha a
rischio Kraus!
Nell'altro stato tedesco,
non ci sono più i Krupps.
Ci sono gli stessi Kraus, veramente
i Signori della DDR !
In modo che Krupp non possa mai più
stabilirsi lì,
Krause si batte per il
riconoscimento GDR !
Scritto da:
Erwin Jedamu
Grazie tante! Sono italiano pure io
Wusste gar nicht dass so ein Lied existiert. Ist schon interessant und man kann sich das sogar ganz gut anhören
When communism had style
Then it turned into millenials drinking Starbucks and AntiFa
I am sad
Whats wrong with antifa?
No, they attack and harass fascist, and they deserve it
The definitely millennial organization of *squints eyes* Arditi del Popolo and the Lincoln Brigade
I would say that they are pretty much comrades. Liberals hate them actually
Cuand'e il congresso del PCI, gia?
Even if you hate them, you've got to admit
The communists (and related ideologies) have great music
ua-cam.com/video/tgRGdtU-NYM/v-deo.html рекомендую
Well I don’t hate them so that’s a bonus
"Its easy to make great propaganda when you have truth on your side" - An anonymous commentator
His words stuck with me.
Честь и слава Гдр
ja furt deustland und russland 🇩🇪🤝🇷🇺
*DDR
I am a moderate socialist, but damn this song slaps
Brain worms is what you have, “moderate socialist” lmfao
@@guccipucci3941 real, he needs to be radical socialist, like my comrades in Brazil.
@@dklius There is no revolution withot blood!
Social democracy sucks LOL
@@berlin4127 facts
You should look for Music from Hannes Wader, he's a western german Musician who made many communist Songs during the Cold War.
Yes, when he sings you get this feeling - I can't describe it, especially not in English. It really captures you. But Ernst Busch, who moved to the GDR, is also a very good singer. One of the best, actually (My opinion). Much strength, much fighting spirit.
doesn't klassengegensatz literally mean class contradiction/class opposition?
in the sense of the song it means class conflict.
cheers.
Krupp gonna catch these hands
Sau Geiles Lied Ich bin in DRB Schöne Grüße aus Oberfürberg und Nürnberg 💪🔴⚫🔶️
Thanks for this excellent translation
Havent heard from west germany from this song came out
It ate East Germany
Capitalism: *nervous sweating*
Year 1991, USA: hahahaha, we won!
It's actually really good, I listen to communist and nationalist music every now and then because it hits deep when a man sings about a cause or ideology which he believes in.
I'm a capitalist btw
@@rafakrzentowski9549 The Soviet Union was illegally dissolved, 3/4 of the population voted to preserve the USSR but their interests were completely ignored. Now the USA without a matching opponent went on an imperialist rampage as seen in the war on terror.
@@rafakrzentowski9549 nothing says winning that having 69 cities bankrupt
@@rafakrzentowski9549 year but capitalism will destroy it self sadly together with humankind
The wrong Germany reunified.
I think alot of Germans are happier *without* the Stasi
@@britishaviator5942 And a lot of Germans were happier not being homeless. Really you have to look at both sides of the coin as both states were good at some things and none was perfect. The fact is, unification of Germany was a disaster for thousands of Germans from the east but also incredible opportunity and burst of freedom for millions
@@britishaviator5942 I think a lot of british people would be happier without MI6, wouldn't they? same goes for the NSA in the u.s., don't you think?
In my opinion wether east Germany in total was better is up for debate but economically it was better.
Hey Getchan, do you have any original record of Moldovian SSR Anthem? And by the way can you make a the song of "If tommorow brings war" ?
I'm surprised this isn't actually Oktoberklub singing this, since it sounds something right up their street.
Same
Awesome song and if you put it at 1.5 speed the rythm base sounds like drum'n'bass
This song has no right being this good, damn! The bass is great as well, very catchy!
amazing track, lyrics and music...great fuzz guitar! W DDR!!!
Imagine what could've happened had East Germany stamped out the 1989 protests. It could very well have stayed divided to this very day. Berlin would be an... interesting city...
Imagine the DDR wouldnd have opressed their communist youth that knew we were a imperialist borderzone for russia.
People like Merkel and many others of the established parties were aligned with the DDR politics and that way could study and be succesfull. Those who were in the communist youth that was critical towards the gov for being too authoritarian were opressed and now get called "ddr-sympathisers" by the same people that in that time were aligned with the gov!
arbeiter hoerst du est nicht?
Das sind die Stimmen der Kriegsminister
FYI if you don't have an 'ö' on your keyboard the correct alternative spelling is 'oe' so it is: "Arbeiter hoerst du es nicht?"
Also 'ä' = 'ae', 'ü' = 'ue' and 'ß' = 'ss' (or 'sz').
@@f_f_f_8142 thanks, i edited it, i never took german at school
Es geht durch die Welt ein Geflüster
ARBEITER HÖRST DU ES NICHT
Excelente!! Totalmente de acuerdo, se menciona en la letra la eterna lucha de clases...
Great song, curious to listen to the instrumental though. If anyone has the instrumental of Krupp und Krause I would like to have it
same
chordify.net/chords/krupp-und-krause-west-german-pro-gdr-song-getchan
That's what I call a plot twist
Can I use this for a film? Or may I get a link to whomever can make that decision?
The Muchner Songgroupe is no longer around, so you can use it without trouble
its not the producer's song, its our song lol
communist shit is free
How that bass fits soo perfectly with the song?
East German was the best Germany.
forever!
Ragastiy Tauren fucking dumb ass. No it wasn’t.
better, and more patriotic
east germany best germany
west germany is the mental slave of the usa.
thank you so much getchan... reminiscing gdr... the monopolist and the proletarian... the class contrast... in germany lands...
Capitalism < Communism
Wasn't the GDR state capitalist tho ?
@@dn8601 no
Both capitalism and communism suck.
@Links-grün versiffter Minecraft Kommunist authoritarian is quite a meaningless term. It is completely relative term depending on where you live and has a different connotation depending on who you talk to. The issue was not authoritarianism. The issue was the degeneration of so-called "socialist" states.
I'm sure there are plenty of dogmatic romanticising fools in this comment section but let there be no mistake; The "communism" we saw for the most part in the 20th century was that of a corrupted yoke. Democracy was not present whatever (though personally I've no issue with that), commodity production was still heavily present though in the hands of the state, party officials were not held to account for the most part unless in cases of opposition to the party.
In all, it is pretty fucking stupid and downright sad that so many "communists" get so dogmatic and zealous in their strive for communism that they end up supporting regimes that had no intention of reaching that goal, merely protecting the rule of the party no matter how corrupted and warped from its original intention that party became.
@@dn8601 it was more of a DOTP
Well I am a big critiziser of the GDR because I think there was a lack of democracy and freedom (which is not only the GDR to blame for) and a lack of socialism for a so called socialist state. Yet this song actually describes the problem of our modern day very well.
Why do you even need fredoms stretching beyond personal ones?
Because freedom is what makes socialism. There is no socialism without freedom. And when the masses aren't free then the person isn't free either. If we just replace capitalist oppression with a slightly red version of oppression we've gained nothing. "Freiheit ist immer die Freiheit des Andersdenkenden." "Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters." - Rosa Luxemburg, founder of the KPD.
Equality can only be achieved through freedom and freedom can only be achieved through equality.
So why freedom? Because it is what humans have been thriving for since the very beginning. When you have a full stomache then you can be free to do what ever you want to and be creative and actually help your personal sanity.
@@JacktheRah
This is all just utopian bullshit.
Во враждебной среде трудно добиться свобод.
GDR isn’t the DDR, its the Grossedeutsche reich
cool song, fun lyrics, made my day.
Рот фронт, товарищи! Ещё будет час, когда рабочий класс разобьёт капиталистическую систему вдребезги. Эпоха Всемирной пролетарской свободы и справедливости близка как никогда - рабочим лишь необходимо в мировом масштабе протянуть руку к этому светлому будущему.
Will not work
@@LSDpartei why not?
@@LSDpartei even so, we don’t have any another ways to get through a lot of modern problems like global warming, poverty, unemployment, some other kind of ecological problems and etc. I see our case like “Build communism or humanity is going to die.” That’s it.
No you bloody commie
Your god damn right, long live the working class!
This song slapps
Amazing how u dig this kinda gold out
I don’t think this is a pro German democratic republic song but rather in my views this is the song explaining communism in an educational way, perfectly explains it better than most schools could
*"...for Mr. Krupp is a monopolist and George and Harold are proletarians."*
Socialism 1 capitalism 0
Lovely!
i am spanish and i can't understand the song, but it sound goods, nice artist and intellectuals in DDR
This is a West German, not East German song
Klare Worte! Sehr gut.
Hans-Jürgen Westphal
is this on spotify?
2 million viewes lets go!!!
02:11 this translation is unaccurate. "Denn dann ist er gefragt" would translate to "Because then he is in demand / sought after" in the sense of being wanted (in a positive way).
Yep. The song is emphasizing the contrast between how workers are treated when things are going well and when things are going poorly. When the economy is doing well you get called a partner but the moment it turns you're out the door.
sad that DDR do not exist
Great song
Damn start making marxists theory into songs
Captain underpants reference
this song is fucking lit
I wonder how many people living in West Germany had positive attitude towards East Germany.
A few for sure but the masses where largely subject to FGR/US anti-communist propaganda so not a lot.
@@guccipucci3941 I mean, if the GDR was actually Democratic I’d be a huge fan. Since it was not, maybe not so good
@@SlicesofHistory I mean your definition of ‘democratic’ clearly differs hugely from the actual definition, so that doesn’t really mean a lot.
Fact of the matter is the GDR represented and upheld more democratic values than any other ‘democracy’ currently existing and was way more democratic than the US ever was or ever will be.
@@guccipucci3941 my guy they had secret police that killed dissenters
@@SlicesofHistory The StaSi isn’t the GeStaPo my guy, check your facts. It’s hilarious that some foreigner tries to teach me my countries history while not even aware of how uneducated they sound, your knowledge based on UA-cam documentaries and Guardian articles written by Washington Think tanks don’t even compare to my and my fellow countrymen’s and family’s lived experiences and knowledge. The Staatssicherheit put people into internment camps and political prison, but the didn’t hunt down and murder civilians which I cannot say about the FBI or CIA (see Fred Hampton, Malcom X, Martin Luther King Jr, MOVE bombing, Tulsa Massacre and the list goes on and on and on). Show me anything they did that the CIA, FBI or Mi5 haven’t also done. I’ll tell you something they didn’t do: they haven’t been killing socialists in the thousands, assassinated political opponents, toppled multiple regimes, installed fascist dictators to get at countries resources, bombed hospitals and civilians in the millions in the Middle East and Asia or are spending billions on anti-communist propaganda in Hollywood and the media since their inception after the Second World War. so in a sense you’re the one that should reflect on your own countries secret services war crimes and crimes committed against humanity before judging another on basis of western propaganda like some reactionary conservative McCarthyite.
DDR 💖
Funny thing is Krupp is real man also a real factory in Saar, Germany. That company is a steel company that was created in the 19th century. Also, that company collaborated with Nazis during WW2 and chairman of Krupp was arrested during Nuremberg trials
Croatian for the first part bc why not?
postoji raskol u cijeloj Njemačkoj koji seče preko cijele nacije
iako ovo nije novo, zanimljivo je
primjer Kruppa i Kraussea pojašnjava
pravi razlog njemačkog raskola je pitanje klase
jer Krupp je monopolist, a Krause proletarijat
to je klasni kontrast
za koje svi znamo
Who is Krause referring to?
CalvinSouI probs east germany
CalvinSouI Krupp represents the capitalist class, while Krause rpresents the proleteriat
i think it is to sound like krupp, which is a huge steel company.
CalvinSouI Krupp is the name of a familiy owning one of the largest steel companies, Krause is a generic Worker in their factory
CalvinSouI krause is a common last name
2019 есть кто шалом
Есть
Can anyone tell me who sang this? I almost thought that it was Oktoberklub
It's Die Münchner Songgruppe.
lets liberate ourselves, mankind!
Beautiful.
not left but i fucking love this song
You should be a leftist.
@@qqqalo hahhaahahha no I like to have food
@@maskedminister9624 Then you should like socialism. The USSR had much more food than the USA up until Gorbachev (a capitalist) got into power.
Source:
Our World in Data (on the website search up Food Supply or Daily per capita supply of calories and then compare the USSR to the USA, UA-cam doesn't let me put a link in my comment).
@@maskedminister9624 oh yea I remember when Marx wrote that food should be illegal
@@maskedminister9624 "No food" - Das Kapital
Well, how did I get to this section of UA-cam again ?!
5 Mark sind 10 Euro - Deutscher Mindestlohn derzeit? 9€ schöne Scheiße
5 Mark are 10 € - current German minimum Wage? 9€ Well Fuck
und jetzt noch inflation mitrechnen ... :(
Time to seize comrade
5 Mark are €2.50 tho
This is what Karl Marx was listening to when he wrote the Bible
Karl Marx did not write the bible.
@@dannydestroyer You should be wooooshed rn
@@dannydestroyer Das kapital is my bible
@@匿名的-1 Oh, that was a joke?
@@dannydestroyer Yup, lol
It's cool, an unique type of communist song
I love it!
Not communist (rather non-capitalist conservative) but think I would not have fitted badly in the DDR. And the song is just hilarious and true at the same time. I do support Deutsche Einheit but the DDR should be a single federated state, and NOT FIVE wtf.
Veig que tens amplis coneixements d'Alemany.
@@miquelcolom7132 tinc, però no amplis.
No offense intended, but isn't non-capitalist conservatism basically proto-fascism?
Nevermind, I'm dumb. You clearly didn't say _anti_-capitalist.
@@rippspeck theres overlap for sure but what you are describing is left populism/ leftist nationalism
That makes you opposed to My ideologies!
Just rebuild the GDR without Stasi and without trading blocks from the west and all would be fine (and of course without a wall). I want a socialist state with liberal citizen rights.
Haerti id rather an authoritarian state than a liberal
lol, im spanish can't understand what it says but sounds good, nice artist and intellectuals in DDR
Esta canción es de Alemania Occidental, no es de DDR.
comrades, buy one way ticket to East, that's it.
This song has a tempo like some Rhodesian songs on UA-cam.
Rh*desia