What CAN'T it do?! | Valeton Dapper Bass Effects Pedal [Review/Demo]
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2020
- Chorus, octave, bass amp, envelop filter, tuner and compressor all in one unit?! For £115, the Valeton Dapper Bass is a force to be reckoned with. But is it actually worth it? How does it compare to the similar Sonicake? Let me know what you think!
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I've used the Valeton Bass Dapper for two years now. Never lets me down. Over 100 gigs. Sound guy loves it.
How is this sound on an active bass ?
Can you please help ?
I think I’ve found my backup rig. I don’t intend on using it live, but I want something I can pull out of my case if anything goes wrong
It was me that loaned the pedal to Jonny for the review and I ended up selling it on soon afterwards. Now I'm regretting it as at the time it didn't give me what I was looking for but things have changed and now it would fit really well with my setup. My biggest issue with it was if you just put it on the floor as a completely standalone pedal it was very easy to accidentally move it when trying to activate one of the buttons, but if it was used on a pedal board in conjunction with other pedals that issue would be easily overcome.
I purchased one recently and wondered how I ever managed without one! I love it!
I mostly use the compressor boost, I already have a built-in preamp on my bass so I think turning on the Bass Amp effect over doest it, maybe if I would play it in passive mode it would make sense. I think the most useful sounds on this pedal board is the Chrous, Boost Compressor and the Bass Amp mostly if you dont have a preamp on already.
I own the Valeton Dapper Bass, and like it very much. I went through a pedal phase, and had 12 pedals, everything from boutique stuff to Electro-Harmonix MEL9 and microbass synth, MarkBass Super Synth, Wah Wah, Optical volume pedal, A/B/A+B switches, and the Digital Music Corp. and Bradshaw pedal board routing systems. Yes, lots of dough, and lots of fun, and now I just have a Sansamp 3-button preamp and the Valeton. I use 2 channels in the PA, and route my Sansamp direct out to one PA channel, and the Valeton to another PA channel, so I can keep my original tone and add in the effects tones as needed. I highly recommend the Valeton, it's clean enough for high-volume live stuff, and gives me the effects I need without a ton of programming time. And it's a great value at its price point.
Amazing! Sometimes less is more when it comes to tone. Thanks for sharing and checking out the video! 😁
Good testing the octaver when you turn the dry down and let Ring only the low octave. Then you see the quality in tracking. Valeton Q-Filtre is very weak without compressor
Soi use this pedal mainly for the pre-amp when plugged in to a board, at rehearsals and lounge-gigs an similar. I'm happy with it, it fulfills it purpose
Hey Jonny, love the channel! Would really like to hear you do a review of the Valeton Dapper Bass Mini some time. I think it’s new and seems to be a streamlined and improved version of this pedal. Thanks in advance. Keep up the great work! 😎👍
The only thing I use an octave pedal for is that synth sound, you just have to learn to play everything an octave up. The 'bad' tracking is what makes a old Boss OC-2 so great.
Definitely going with this one
Bought one after your video, thank you!
That's awesome! Glad to be of service 😊
Had this pedal for 2 years and as a cheap pedal it’s ok , as a singer I don’t have time to fiddle with lots of pedals so I have it on a tray on my mic stand to add a little something to my sound .
Thats handy! Thanks for checking out the video 😊
I have it. Always use old strings on bass. Everything on this pedal works good. Chorus adds low end. Octaver is tracking godd as analog octavers do. Preamp is ampeg like and is very good. Q is good, compressor is good. Every unit except chorus has its own level. Chorus ads 2 db, comp ads 3 to 4 db on lowest settings. Great pedal. It's not boutique but sertanly don't sound cheap at all. Drive is tube like.
thanks for the video. in your opinion is it similar to the sansamp tech21 model? I know that sansamp is much more expensive, almost three times as expensive, have you ever tried it to make a comparison?
i just wanna fn know if i can use this direct from this pedal to my interface (i record in Reason) without a bass amp - my god
I'd really like to know if you can get a hardrock/fuzz/metal tone with this pedal. I'm not in extreme sounds, but a warm, fuzzy tube-type-overdrive sound would be nice. Is it possible?
No headphone out though? Bummer. Still think I will pick this up. Would the line output power headphones?
Which is better guys the sonicake or valeton?
Is possible use ony the fuzz option without the filter?
Hey Jonny, Zoom B1X4 or Valeton Dapper Bass? I play different genres (mostly wedding gigs)
I live in South America and the pandemic have increases our coin. I don't know anything about pedals so this one would be a great option to start because it has everything and the best thing: ITS CHEAP! I'm going to buy it. Great Review and Demo.
Greetings from Colombia!
Hi Antony! Something like this is perfect for starting out into the world of pedals! Hope you get on okay! 🤘 Thanka very much 😊
Lo compró? Yo estoy en las mismas. Me interesa un montón.
I just got this used for the compressor and preamp and tuner. The rest is ok, the octave is bad. But I'll used it every gig.
Sonicake for me... Cheaper (here in Australia) preamp sounds amazing and dedicated fuzz. Was a win
I got impressed with that little pedal, this is okay almost good for the money (in my opinion)
I would agree, you're getting OK effects attached to a decent amp sound
Awesome review. Looking to to get this. Wanted to know if the tuner tunes to sharps/flats. Need to tune half step down. Thanks
Yeah it does 😊
Great man . How did you say that sonic cake boom bar whatever thing without messing up
Thanks my dude 👊 Unbelievably I actually missed out a word from the title 🤣
Q-tron, Enigma Q-Balls, Dr. Q, all pedals from Electro-Harmonix, all more or less grew from the Mu-Tron envelope filter pedals originally by Musitronics back in the '70's...thats how I associate "Q" with envelope filters. Don't know the real origin of how "Q" became code for envelope filters. Hope that helps...some.
Interesting! I never knew. Thanks fir the insight 😊
"Q" is tech shorthand for the response of any filter - "Quality factor".
@@MirlitronOne Very interesting. That explains why a higher Q setting means a narrower spike in the freq domain. That always confused me: I always wanted the higher setting to correspond to a bigger hump.
It's the shape of the slope that is moving in the envelope filter.....a very tall and narrow 'Q' , Q being the width of the bell shape in the eq
Q is a parametric eq term, and filters sweep that Q peak across the frequency spectrum. That's what the "au" sound is: a frequency sweep.
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Would you prefer this or the sonicake pedal? Or is it almost identical ?
Overall, I think the Sonicake? I'm never sure between these two though
Compressor section works almost like Boss Slow Gear, because it have a fixed Attack parameter. It's funny but not versatile
£72.00 on Ebay. I was looking at getting an envelope filter and an octave too witch would cost three times the price of this and normally I would completely overlook something like this, hmmm.
What a steal!
That's what I was thinking after id looked it up
Wait! Maybe because the sound an envelope filter makes is sometimes referred to as a "quack" sound?!?
Like a flock of ducks! 😍
Before watching your video I was wondering about buying the sonicake, but now, I'm seriously thinking about the dapper bass. It sounds really good and also the vt tone is good. I have a zoom b3 but it sounds too digital, this one seems to be more realistic!
Cheers from Italy, stay well and safe
Valeton are a great affordable brand! I'd recommend checking out my video on the GT100 too 😊 Not much more money, but loads more features!
@@JonnyDibble just watching it right now!
@@helmutversino5274 what did you think about Valeton Gp-100 compared to zoom? thinking about buy one gp-100
@@SeuRafinha i think that are similar... the valeton sounds better to me but if you find a zoom b3 you can use it as a sound card, if you need that feature it's great
Just got mine, MUCH better bass preamp than the sonic cake, I’ve had both now and I kept the valeton
The fx loop position is after the preamp? We can put an overdrive pedal in the fx loop ?
You sure can!
@@WilDBeestMF but the overdrive don´t work well before the preamp...
@@eng2005 That's entirely subjective.
@@WilDBeestMF so you're not helping. Did you try an overdrive in the fx loop of the valeton drapper bass?
@@eng2005 How am I not helping? I'm telling you that you can jam an overdrive in the return and use it alongside the Dapper. It works fine.
Is there something I didn't make clear?
hey man, are ya guitarist mainly, and how long have you been playing?
Oh no, do I give off the impression I'm a guitarist?! I've been playing bass for like 12 years I believe
@@JonnyDibble i recently started following you, and i had to ask.
Yes, you do give impression like you are guitarist, and you are learning this instrument, based on your right hand technique, it just seem it is uncomfortable for you. That is my impression, also i like your chanel, just had to ask.
I have been playing bass for 12 years now too. I have never played guitar. I have few friends who are guitarist and when they take bass in hands their right hand is same as yours.
Q is the width of the EQ peak.
Thanks for the info ☺
You played it to its best. But that octave is largely useless to me. And this envelope shaper is horrible. Glad you tried it !
Hi Johnny, I was wondering between this Dapper Mini and the GP-100, which would be more then sufficient and a keeper? Thanks!
GP-100 for sure 😁 There's a newer/bigger one out now though!
@@JonnyDibble Oh cool! That's a really prompt reply! Cheers man! Didn't see you do a video on your Explorer bass? That looks kicks!
@@9804216 No worries! 😊 Explorer will be reviewed soon!
Ive never got bass to sound good direct. so all that is bass to interface direct on the first 3 notes??? and nothing else. Wow wonder what Im doing wrong..
Anyways The unit sounds good but that envelope sounds too wild for bass and the tracking is weird on the octave.. Nice playing I wish i could find a bassist half as good
Yeah, nothing else on the signal there for the DI 😊 Cheaper octaves are always a worry for me haha. Thanks!
Does this tuner work with 5-string bass, tuned down in low A?
Great question, unfortunately I dong have a 5 string or the pedal to check 🥲 sorry man!
It works fine. It was a little tricky dialling it in for ADGCF tuning on the B, but a lot of tuners struggle with it so not super noticeable.
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Ohhh this or the valeton gp 100!!
Hmm, gotta be the GP-100! I've reviewed it in a more recent video 😊
@@JonnyDibble sweet. Yeah I watched that video. Was about to order one, and then I saw this one! So came to check out another of your reviews. Cheers mate
background music seems too high in the mix. hard to understand the words around 10min mark
Yeah it always sounds fine through my speakers but got to optimise for all platforms! Still learning them ropes, thanks for the feedback
@@JonnyDibble Np. Liked and Subscribed. Thanks for taking my critique constructively. Good stuff, keep it coming!
I play bass mostly in musicals, so constantly looking for a tiny board that will cover all the bases. So far, my board has gotten pretty elaborate OD -> Morley ABC -> A/B -> 4 channels( fuzz -> chorus -> para EQ // rat -> comp -> octave fuzz // EQ/boost -> env. filter // dry ) -> 4 channel mixer -> amp. And a little black box in the loop to turn down the signal so the preamp section can crank. I feel like I need something like a Quartermaster from That Pedal Show to replace my switches and mixer. The tiny boards just don't seem to have all blending capability I need.
@@luserdroog Sounds like you need a diverse tonal pallate! I love trying to come up with creative solutions and finding hidden gems that can help! Thanks for the support 😊
@@JonnyDibble As for hidden gems, the one I've found is called the Octo-puss. It's an octave fuzz, but it's totally passive -- no batteries. It needs to be after a buffer or a hot signal bc it feeds on the signal for its power. It gives almost a synth-like tone, purrs like a kitten. But it sucks all the bottom end out, so in shows I have to blend it with a dry signal.
My Michael kelly element 4 sounds great through this
Octave The best oc3
I cannot think of a single musical situation where that Dirty Q sound would be appropriate. So specific, alien, and useless.
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@@JonnyDibble how are you
@@poyfuture great thanks! Hope you're good too
Good content, but man, you really need to work on your sound levels. Bass super loud, then talking kind of soft. Get those levels equal.
a tuna!
Bro I can’t hear you whispering against the music
Too muc slap and pick sounds. Not enough fingerstyle
My channel mainly focuses on pick playing tbf! 😊
That’s fine. Keep on picking. I like the review anyway.
That’s fine. Keep on picking. I like the review anyway.
That’s fine. Keep on picking. I like the review anyway.
I can barely hear this dude over the background music.
It's a rip-off of the SansAmp Bass Fly Rig. I wonder how they haven't gotten sued.
You did a terrible review.
Thank-you for the constructive feedback x