A sculk-sensor computer
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- An experimental Minecraft computer made with "Soundstone" -- the branch of Minecraft replacing redstone dust with sound waves.
PeterjiangTW's soundstone
4x4 door: • 4X4 Piston Door[1.20.1...
12-pistone xtender: • Soundstone Circuit & D...
binary counter: • Binary Counter[1.20.1]...
My soundstone "quantum calculator"
• A sculk-sensor calcula...
Ryan K's wireworld-rule 110 simulation
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The original proof of Rule 110's "universal computation" ability
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0:00 The thing
2:37 me with a fuzzy projector
4:19 Wires
7:17 Rule 110
9:05 The CPU
12:01 vibes - Ігри
Calibrated sensors have less cooldown than a regular sculk sensor even without the extra bits that calibrates it. You can use them to make the computer two times faster!
There might be some problems with the extra range of the calibrated skulk though
Fix it by funneling the imput sound only on the starter, so it doesn't spread. The delay should be long enough that the sound can't make it back because of the wool blocks between sensors.
I wonder if you could use the difference in delays for other computations
They also have extra range which could help with transmission speeds
@@PotatoSofiHello there fellow potato :D
Your information storage solution sounds like one of the earliest computer memory solutions - Delay-line memory. UNIVAC 1 had A tube of mercury with a speaker on one end and a microphone on the other. Mercury has a slower speed of sound than air, which is why it was used. So sound has been used to store data for a long time!
Ah, mercury as a storage solution. (literally.) Because everything had to contain mercury back then.
Than air? Sound moves faster in mercury than air. Did you mean something else?
@@Ivan.Wright Seems like a small mistake. Reason for mercury from Wikipedia:
`Mercury was used because its acoustic impedance is close to that of the piezoelectric quartz crystals; this minimized the energy loss and the echoes when the signal was transmitted from crystal to medium and back again. The high speed of sound in mercury (1450 m/s) meant that the time needed to wait for a pulse to arrive at the receiving end was less than it would have been with a slower medium, such as air (343.2 m/s)`
@@Positroni I appreciate you providing more clarification. I suppose he meant the wait time was lower rather than speed then. Those kind of mixups suck, they're easy to make but they can cause the biggest problems, like reversing positive and negative on a circuit 💥😭
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@@caspermadlener4191Did you try copying them or something? Slightly confused on what you're trying to say here.
@@nikkiofthevalley Oh, they showed up like squares, but it is fixed now.
Holy shrieker
I fucking love how minecraft has all these if functions that make engineering and even programming possible
You know, when Mojang first introduced the concept of the sculk sensors, I thought it was gonna be almost useless for redstone, since it interacted with everything and anything.
But now after seeing this video, it has convinced me otherwise, and it's wild to see that it can be used for something other than simple traps or proximity detectors.
At the same time... What he's done here can be made with maybe 4 logic gates and some repeaters. It would also be 5x smaller and probably somewhere around 5x to 10x faster.
If something in a game has 2 states that can be changed, someone will build a computer somehow.
this is like the fourth or fifth time that a minecraft feature has been discovered to be somehow Turing-complete lmao, I wonder if mojang is doing it on purpose
also is there a reason why Rule 110 makes something that looks an awful lot like the Sierpinski Triangle?
The triangles are actually a common pattern in most elementary cellular automata. They even come up in cellular automata that simulate integer multiplication (i.e. you can think of the first line of the triangle as a long row of zeros that takes a few multiplications to fill in)
the triangles are mostly just what happens when a line of cells gets smaller over time, but sierpinski triangles do show up in some cellular automata, such as rule 60!
Damn, that's amazing! I was already wondering if you were working on something big, given that you haven't been uploading as much lately
I'm still working on a lot of projects. But they're mostly for school so it's gonna be harder to translate some of them into Minecraft content.
This sent me into the biggest rabbit hole about cellular automata, I actually made a program in 6502 assembly to simulate any wolfram elementary cellular automaton. Rule 110 being Turing complete is crazy to think about, and rule 30 being almost completely random, and rule 90 making a fractal pattern, crazy cool stuff man. Thank you for introducing me to this new thing. learning cool stuff like that about computer science is my favorite thing.
Now its time for me to make 2d cellular automata.
You forgot leafstone building Redstone with leaves
I will never not be surprised at the things people can use to make a computer, and I’m a computer engineer. If it weren’t for the giants whose shoulders we stand on, we could have spent all of humanity blind to a piece of the world whose potential for creation lies in every grain of sand.
This is absolutely what I've been looking for. I joined a big Redstone server, but I'm not actually skilled with Redstone, so I wanted to look into sculk-centric alternatives. This has definitely given me hope. Thank you.
Could you squish the wires like a DNA helix (3d squishing), and maybe like a cromossome afterwards?
the wires are sound tho, it doesn't really travel in a line, just in a 20 block radius around the sculk sensor
@@witha1can't you use wool to "funnel" the sound to another skulk sensor?
Why not calibrated sculk sensors? If you don't calibrate them, they are just like normal sensors, but faster
Am I missing something?
They were avoided for 2 reasons: 1) because they pick up sound from further away, the wires would have had to be built farther apart or with more insulation and 2) the wires were actually designed to be slow on purpose since this allows more compact data storage.
That end screen looks like the matrix animation lmao
what no it doesnt. it doesnt even go in the right direction
@@brickie9816 I mean, it did remind me of the Matrix as well, sure it might not be an exact replica.
I can see the similarity CraftyMasterman is getting at.
Looks more like a Sierpiński triangle.
Hi Crafty!
As much interest as I have had in seemingly simple systems like this, I never understood them very well, just trying my best to follow along most of the time. But they way you explained this was amazing, I actually understand what everything does and why!
6:00 single handedly visually represented a single-mode fibre-optic cables
Pretty awesome work and presentation. I've never seen sculk sensors being used as output devices before.
This was such a technical creation and yet you explained it amazingly, really underrated.
Ps the outro music is such a vibe
I was never really good at redstone at your videos are outstanding to me! I have never seen anyone this good with signals and stuff in Minecraft!
This was super informative both in terms of sculk behaviour but also circuit design
your concept always fascinated me
Mogswamp made a video that had you in it and I found your videos really interesting! Thank you for making these!
Probably my favorite video of yours yet!
Im such an ape. Great job at explaining all of that but I’m just here for the cool triangles at the end
It's good to find another innovative redstone inventor. This really piqued my interest. I'm going to stick around and subscribe.
This is surprisingly relaxing to look at... Just how the sculk's colours look...
This is very cool and I'm looking forward to seeing what one could do by combining the different *-stone tech together in the same machine.
Nice!
This guy is one of my favorite UA-camrs ever
Dont stop.this concept is best
A banger as always ! ❤
Absolutely amazing! I'm baffled at the power this seems to have, and am very curious how the Sierpinski triangle pattern at the end doesn't overlap itself and break up, but instead keeps consistency in its form. Great video all around!
Man your amazing at these
Awesome video as always man
This is pretty interesting! I'm kinda unsure what the application of this is but it's definitely interesting
Crazy how this whole system is run by word of mouth
This is really cool
Now this, this is amazing!
I remember when they added hoppers and I thought that was impressive then
Great video!
That's awesaome!
This is so cool i may cry
Amazing
This is epic!
Awesome!
as cool as this is, and I'd love to see more things similar to this with skulk sensors, I would like to see a new update to redstone that is more focused on classic redstone.
I like your funny words, magic man
i love weird minecraft computers! i have no idea what rule 110 is or how it can be used for math though
rule 110 is a cellular automaton, kind of like a 1d version of Conway's Game of Life, if you're familiar with that (and if you're not, I'd definitely recommend looking it up!). computation in rule 110 is a bit convoluted, but basically it's possible to create "gliders", which are patterns that move sideways as the simulation progresses, and the interactions between different gliders can be used to do more complicated things. specifically, they can be used to simulate a kind of computational system called a tag system, where you have a sequence of gliders representing a queue of bits, and a repeating sequence of gliders that act as a program doing simple operations on the queue. tag systems have been shown to be capable of implementing universal turing machines, so theoretically rule 110 can do any computation (though it would be very impractical to actually use it for that)
you can get any sequence of 1s and 0s and transform it using some specific rules into another sequence. and its been proven that if you have a computer capable of doing rule 110, it is theoretically capable of any other computation
As a current compsci student. Youre crazy
If you send two, or more, different sounds off-phase is it possible to send multiple different signals on the same slinky wire?
I understand nothing here, yet its so interesting
This is amazing and very interesting. Very good video.
But, is that a CPU if it can only compute one thing, even if that thing is turing complete ?
Or I miss something in the explaination.
Soundstone/Jazzstone
this video was really good. I do have one question: Is the pattern that rule 110 produces Pascal's Triangle or is it something different?
Looking at the output, I wonder which relation is there between the shierpinki triangle, and rule 110. It really seems like its creating a fractal where there is not really a reason to do so
I noticed this as well, it might be fun to look into. There's something going on there for sure.
I think there's a small modification you can make to rule 110 to make it actually the sierpinski triangle.
rule 110 doesn't really have a fractal structure, but there are other cellular automata, such as rule 60, that do basically make sierpinski triangles!
love how i make a video explaining the calibrated sculk and then someone says "nobody will use this" and now everyone is using it
Neat! Fascinating video. But can it run Crysis?
when you have to muffle the muffler lmao
How could calibrated sculk sensors change the computer? Could you store data more efficiently by relaying different messages along different sound frequencies?
That's a great point. Some cellular automata use more than 2 colors. So it might be possible to make a similar computer that uses different sound frequencies with the calibrated sculk sensor to represent different colors
isnt that basically less bulky redstone?
also, with that you can p much make a .5 hertz display which would be massive improvement (also easy and quick display 4x8 for counting items or sth)
You demonstrate phase delay and interference. I'm pretty sure that's already everything you need to create a Turing complete chaotic mapping system.
Wow…. And with sculk 😭, I wonder if you’ve demonstrated the sound stone should be 4x faster.
The singular is AUTOMATON!
I still don't understand how exactly the wool muffling works, if you put wool directly to the right of the sound will it completely prevent anything to right of the sound from hearing it?
I've been thinking about this video while testing Sculk Sensors in my own world and a thought occurred to me: You said the only Redstone Dust needed in this computer is to craft the pistons. Calibrated Sculk Sensors deafen themselves to all but one frequency when they're powered, including being powered by other Sculk Sensors... So you could probably build a version of this computer that doesn't use any Redstone Dust at all, which I think would be a first for Minecraft?
“Automata” is the plural of “automaton.”
Why does it make one half of a sierpinski triangle? This is really interesting!
The "triangles-of-triangles" pattern actually pops up in a lot of cellular automata. Sierpinski's triangle is just the most iconic example. It's just one member of a big triangle-of-triangles family and this pattern is one of its relatives
I've seen that fractal before
Sierpinski Triangel wow
I'm pretty sure for the main logic gates you could've just... not connected the red wire into the or?
Nice. I didn't see that setup when working on this. Good catch.
btw you can now change the tick speed of the game so now people can make mich better stuff with just redstone and command blocks and stuff
What does it look like on map art?
From mogswamp :))
This reminds me of Five Pebbles from Rain World
Its well done, but I wish you could go a little more in depth with your explanations.
Its very hard to follow along if you just show all the wires(some with thicker strips, that werent explained and more..
Maybe a simplified drawing or a simpler mechanism that just shows the operation you are talking about in the moment.
The three dimensional nature just makes it hard to grasp what part you are referring to soemtimes.
Furthermore, you say that these mechanisms are not repeatable with normal Redstone, could you elaborate?
But great idea and a very creative usage indeed!
Am I weird for thinking this is really sexy?
i miss ilmango :(
Please don't put your camera in the top left and also make it a bit smaller. You had several times where your camera was blocking what you were showing.
Also having a buffer between the edges and the camera is wasted space. The transparent edge on the top and left isn't useful because you can't see what is there all that well.
nit: de morgan's law isn't so much "a formula that modern logic is based on", and more a law derived from how logic works
nit 2: a lot of computer science isn't really about logic - _especially_ the fundamental (conceptual) building blocks of computers, like turing machines and lambda calculus
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What is the mod that lets you change the tps?
It's called "carpet mod"
Neat
but if you made it out of redstone it would be like half the size and twice as fast?? why sculk...
tonal architecture
Comment just for cool music at the end of the video👍
Hey are you planning to continue your permaculture series?
I'm not sure. It's gonna be 1/video per month from here on. So permaculture will be on the list but it will probably just be one permaculture episode a year.
That’s pretty cool, but can it run Doom?
can it run doom?
One day hopefully 😅
You sound just like Veritasium
What happened to RedstoneJazz, your original channel?!?
I deleted it years ago... then decided to come back to UA-cam. Not great planning on my part
add ping pong
SculkStone sounds much nicer than SoundStone
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When Minecraft in minecraft? lol
I thought skulk was useless lol
I guess you can get away with calling it a computer, but I don't think I agree with calling it a CPU.