A sculk-sensor computer

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  • Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
  • An experimental Minecraft computer made with "Soundstone" -- the branch of Minecraft replacing redstone dust with sound waves.
    PeterjiangTW's soundstone
    4x4 door: • 4X4 Piston Door[1.20.1...
    12-pistone xtender: • Soundstone Circuit & D...
    binary counter: • Binary Counter[1.20.1]...
    My soundstone "quantum calculator"
    • A sculk-sensor calcula...
    Ryan K's wireworld-rule 110 simulation
    • WireWorld v2
    World download
    www.planetminecraft.com/proje...
    The original proof of Rule 110's "universal computation" ability
    wpmedia.wolfram.com/uploads/s...
    0:00 The thing
    2:37 me with a fuzzy projector
    4:19 Wires
    7:17 Rule 110
    9:05 The CPU
    12:01 vibes
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  • @SagaciousTch
    @SagaciousTch 10 місяців тому +619

    Calibrated sensors have less cooldown than a regular sculk sensor even without the extra bits that calibrates it. You can use them to make the computer two times faster!

    • @george1717
      @george1717 10 місяців тому +56

      There might be some problems with the extra range of the calibrated skulk though

    • @PotatoSofi
      @PotatoSofi 10 місяців тому +23

      Fix it by funneling the imput sound only on the starter, so it doesn't spread. The delay should be long enough that the sound can't make it back because of the wool blocks between sensors.

    • @kaiirossbaird7623
      @kaiirossbaird7623 10 місяців тому +21

      I wonder if you could use the difference in delays for other computations

    • @redthunder6183
      @redthunder6183 10 місяців тому +4

      They also have extra range which could help with transmission speeds

    • @budderman3rd
      @budderman3rd 9 місяців тому

      ​@@PotatoSofiHello there fellow potato :D

  • @zanderwohl
    @zanderwohl 10 місяців тому +280

    Your information storage solution sounds like one of the earliest computer memory solutions - Delay-line memory. UNIVAC 1 had A tube of mercury with a speaker on one end and a microphone on the other. Mercury has a slower speed of sound than air, which is why it was used. So sound has been used to store data for a long time!

    • @nikkiofthevalley
      @nikkiofthevalley 10 місяців тому +32

      Ah, mercury as a storage solution. (literally.) Because everything had to contain mercury back then.

    • @Ivan.Wright
      @Ivan.Wright 10 місяців тому +4

      Than air? Sound moves faster in mercury than air. Did you mean something else?

    • @Positroni
      @Positroni 10 місяців тому +25

      @@Ivan.Wright Seems like a small mistake. Reason for mercury from Wikipedia:
      `Mercury was used because its acoustic impedance is close to that of the piezoelectric quartz crystals; this minimized the energy loss and the echoes when the signal was transmitted from crystal to medium and back again. The high speed of sound in mercury (1450 m/s) meant that the time needed to wait for a pulse to arrive at the receiving end was less than it would have been with a slower medium, such as air (343.2 m/s)`

    • @Ivan.Wright
      @Ivan.Wright 10 місяців тому +8

      @@Positroni I appreciate you providing more clarification. I suppose he meant the wait time was lower rather than speed then. Those kind of mixups suck, they're easy to make but they can cause the biggest problems, like reversing positive and negative on a circuit 💥😭

  • @whitestonejazz
    @whitestonejazz  10 місяців тому +25

    Hey y'all, school has been kicking my butt already so the plan is 1 video/month from here on. You can join me in November for a proof about piston extenders, regular grammars, cellular automata, and number theory.
    And if you wanna support this niche kind of math content, the channel has a 1$ membership now (helps me save for new gear like a better camera). Heather and I made all the badges and emojis from scratch(in most cases, pixel by pixel).
    Tie-dye armor:
    The wall-clock:
    Nerd pig:
    And *442 pattern orbit:
    Have a great day
    -Chris🌻

    • @caspermadlener4191
      @caspermadlener4191 10 місяців тому

      Tie-dye armor:□
      The wall-clock:□
      Nerd pig:□
      And *442 pattern orbit:□

    • @nikkiofthevalley
      @nikkiofthevalley 10 місяців тому

      ​@@caspermadlener4191Did you try copying them or something? Slightly confused on what you're trying to say here.

    • @caspermadlener4191
      @caspermadlener4191 10 місяців тому

      @@nikkiofthevalley Oh, they showed up like squares, but it is fixed now.

  • @MrTaddelie
    @MrTaddelie 10 місяців тому +25

    Holy shrieker

  • @mischake
    @mischake 9 місяців тому +2

    I fucking love how minecraft has all these if functions that make engineering and even programming possible

  • @redwiz2144
    @redwiz2144 10 місяців тому +144

    You know, when Mojang first introduced the concept of the sculk sensors, I thought it was gonna be almost useless for redstone, since it interacted with everything and anything.
    But now after seeing this video, it has convinced me otherwise, and it's wild to see that it can be used for something other than simple traps or proximity detectors.

    • @nikkiofthevalley
      @nikkiofthevalley 10 місяців тому +23

      At the same time... What he's done here can be made with maybe 4 logic gates and some repeaters. It would also be 5x smaller and probably somewhere around 5x to 10x faster.

  • @_Yulico_
    @_Yulico_ 9 місяців тому +2

    If something in a game has 2 states that can be changed, someone will build a computer somehow.

  • @conure512
    @conure512 10 місяців тому +45

    this is like the fourth or fifth time that a minecraft feature has been discovered to be somehow Turing-complete lmao, I wonder if mojang is doing it on purpose
    also is there a reason why Rule 110 makes something that looks an awful lot like the Sierpinski Triangle?

    • @whitestonejazz
      @whitestonejazz  10 місяців тому +20

      The triangles are actually a common pattern in most elementary cellular automata. They even come up in cellular automata that simulate integer multiplication (i.e. you can think of the first line of the triangle as a long row of zeros that takes a few multiplications to fill in)

    • @arctenik
      @arctenik 9 місяців тому +1

      the triangles are mostly just what happens when a line of cells gets smaller over time, but sierpinski triangles do show up in some cellular automata, such as rule 60!

  • @TheGunMasterDigital
    @TheGunMasterDigital 10 місяців тому +84

    Damn, that's amazing! I was already wondering if you were working on something big, given that you haven't been uploading as much lately

    • @whitestonejazz
      @whitestonejazz  10 місяців тому +27

      I'm still working on a lot of projects. But they're mostly for school so it's gonna be harder to translate some of them into Minecraft content.

  • @JTRipper420
    @JTRipper420 День тому

    This sent me into the biggest rabbit hole about cellular automata, I actually made a program in 6502 assembly to simulate any wolfram elementary cellular automaton. Rule 110 being Turing complete is crazy to think about, and rule 30 being almost completely random, and rule 90 making a fractal pattern, crazy cool stuff man. Thank you for introducing me to this new thing. learning cool stuff like that about computer science is my favorite thing.
    Now its time for me to make 2d cellular automata.

  • @AstraVoid
    @AstraVoid 10 місяців тому +8

    You forgot leafstone building Redstone with leaves

  • @Natibe_
    @Natibe_ 9 місяців тому +1

    I will never not be surprised at the things people can use to make a computer, and I’m a computer engineer. If it weren’t for the giants whose shoulders we stand on, we could have spent all of humanity blind to a piece of the world whose potential for creation lies in every grain of sand.

  • @lachlanparker570
    @lachlanparker570 Місяць тому

    This is absolutely what I've been looking for. I joined a big Redstone server, but I'm not actually skilled with Redstone, so I wanted to look into sculk-centric alternatives. This has definitely given me hope. Thank you.

  • @isaacm1929
    @isaacm1929 10 місяців тому +59

    Could you squish the wires like a DNA helix (3d squishing), and maybe like a cromossome afterwards?

    • @witha1
      @witha1 10 місяців тому +4

      the wires are sound tho, it doesn't really travel in a line, just in a 20 block radius around the sculk sensor

    • @undefined06855
      @undefined06855 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@witha1can't you use wool to "funnel" the sound to another skulk sensor?

  • @HelPfeffer
    @HelPfeffer 10 місяців тому +18

    Why not calibrated sculk sensors? If you don't calibrate them, they are just like normal sensors, but faster
    Am I missing something?

    • @whitestonejazz
      @whitestonejazz  10 місяців тому +28

      They were avoided for 2 reasons: 1) because they pick up sound from further away, the wires would have had to be built farther apart or with more insulation and 2) the wires were actually designed to be slow on purpose since this allows more compact data storage.

  • @CraftyMasterman
    @CraftyMasterman 10 місяців тому +9

    That end screen looks like the matrix animation lmao

    • @brickie9816
      @brickie9816 10 місяців тому +1

      what no it doesnt. it doesnt even go in the right direction

    • @Ursaross
      @Ursaross 10 місяців тому

      @@brickie9816 I mean, it did remind me of the Matrix as well, sure it might not be an exact replica.
      I can see the similarity CraftyMasterman is getting at.

    • @kamoroso94
      @kamoroso94 10 місяців тому

      Looks more like a Sierpiński triangle.

    • @noahniederklein8038
      @noahniederklein8038 6 днів тому

      Hi Crafty!

  • @truffles
    @truffles 10 місяців тому +7

    As much interest as I have had in seemingly simple systems like this, I never understood them very well, just trying my best to follow along most of the time. But they way you explained this was amazing, I actually understand what everything does and why!

  • @junkynioy
    @junkynioy 9 місяців тому

    6:00 single handedly visually represented a single-mode fibre-optic cables

  • @MaizumaGames
    @MaizumaGames 10 місяців тому +7

    Pretty awesome work and presentation. I've never seen sculk sensors being used as output devices before.

  • @ContinuedOak
    @ContinuedOak 9 місяців тому +1

    This was such a technical creation and yet you explained it amazingly, really underrated.
    Ps the outro music is such a vibe

  • @itsfets
    @itsfets 10 місяців тому +8

    I was never really good at redstone at your videos are outstanding to me! I have never seen anyone this good with signals and stuff in Minecraft!

  • @lewismassie
    @lewismassie 10 місяців тому +2

    This was super informative both in terms of sculk behaviour but also circuit design

  • @user-cx5mb2xr4h
    @user-cx5mb2xr4h 9 місяців тому

    your concept always fascinated me

  • @justsomeuser973
    @justsomeuser973 7 місяців тому +1

    Mogswamp made a video that had you in it and I found your videos really interesting! Thank you for making these!

  • @ThePlyb
    @ThePlyb 10 місяців тому

    Probably my favorite video of yours yet!

  • @BeansGalaxy
    @BeansGalaxy 10 місяців тому

    Im such an ape. Great job at explaining all of that but I’m just here for the cool triangles at the end

  • @AkkarisFox
    @AkkarisFox 9 місяців тому

    It's good to find another innovative redstone inventor. This really piqued my interest. I'm going to stick around and subscribe.

  • @andre_601
    @andre_601 9 місяців тому

    This is surprisingly relaxing to look at... Just how the sculk's colours look...

  • @GunAinmNoAodann
    @GunAinmNoAodann 10 місяців тому

    This is very cool and I'm looking forward to seeing what one could do by combining the different *-stone tech together in the same machine.

  • @peterjiangTW
    @peterjiangTW 10 місяців тому +6

    Nice!

  • @SF124-gy7hk
    @SF124-gy7hk 10 місяців тому

    This guy is one of my favorite UA-camrs ever

  • @originalgames9363
    @originalgames9363 10 місяців тому

    Dont stop.this concept is best

  • @nano_redstone
    @nano_redstone 10 місяців тому +2

    A banger as always ! ❤

  • @eauna0029
    @eauna0029 9 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely amazing! I'm baffled at the power this seems to have, and am very curious how the Sierpinski triangle pattern at the end doesn't overlap itself and break up, but instead keeps consistency in its form. Great video all around!

  • @collarrush
    @collarrush 9 місяців тому

    Man your amazing at these

  • @zebteched
    @zebteched 10 місяців тому

    Awesome video as always man

  • @hydroxa4330
    @hydroxa4330 10 місяців тому +1

    This is pretty interesting! I'm kinda unsure what the application of this is but it's definitely interesting

  • @Kallyn
    @Kallyn 9 місяців тому

    Crazy how this whole system is run by word of mouth

  • @HelPfeffer
    @HelPfeffer 10 місяців тому +1

    This is really cool

  • @keagaming9837
    @keagaming9837 10 місяців тому

    Now this, this is amazing!

  • @ThePuzzled1
    @ThePuzzled1 9 місяців тому +1

    I remember when they added hoppers and I thought that was impressive then

  • @ProfWisecrack
    @ProfWisecrack 10 місяців тому

    Great video!

  • @Jellyjam14blas
    @Jellyjam14blas 10 місяців тому +1

    That's awesaome!

  • @nathanyew5155
    @nathanyew5155 9 місяців тому

    This is so cool i may cry

  • @no.longer.aproxioi
    @no.longer.aproxioi 9 місяців тому +1

    Amazing

  • @DragonsAndDragons777
    @DragonsAndDragons777 9 місяців тому

    This is epic!

  • @pi314159265358978
    @pi314159265358978 10 місяців тому

    Awesome!

  • @AB-Prince
    @AB-Prince 9 місяців тому

    as cool as this is, and I'd love to see more things similar to this with skulk sensors, I would like to see a new update to redstone that is more focused on classic redstone.

  • @Findingmyplace1
    @Findingmyplace1 10 місяців тому

    I like your funny words, magic man

  • @MinerBat
    @MinerBat 10 місяців тому +3

    i love weird minecraft computers! i have no idea what rule 110 is or how it can be used for math though

    • @arctenik
      @arctenik 9 місяців тому

      rule 110 is a cellular automaton, kind of like a 1d version of Conway's Game of Life, if you're familiar with that (and if you're not, I'd definitely recommend looking it up!). computation in rule 110 is a bit convoluted, but basically it's possible to create "gliders", which are patterns that move sideways as the simulation progresses, and the interactions between different gliders can be used to do more complicated things. specifically, they can be used to simulate a kind of computational system called a tag system, where you have a sequence of gliders representing a queue of bits, and a repeating sequence of gliders that act as a program doing simple operations on the queue. tag systems have been shown to be capable of implementing universal turing machines, so theoretically rule 110 can do any computation (though it would be very impractical to actually use it for that)

    • @jay-tbl
      @jay-tbl 9 місяців тому

      you can get any sequence of 1s and 0s and transform it using some specific rules into another sequence. and its been proven that if you have a computer capable of doing rule 110, it is theoretically capable of any other computation

  • @danielmoon4704
    @danielmoon4704 10 місяців тому

    As a current compsci student. Youre crazy

  • @whtiequillBj
    @whtiequillBj 10 місяців тому +3

    If you send two, or more, different sounds off-phase is it possible to send multiple different signals on the same slinky wire?

  • @c0cknballt0rture10
    @c0cknballt0rture10 10 місяців тому

    I understand nothing here, yet its so interesting

  • @pierrotA
    @pierrotA 10 місяців тому +1

    This is amazing and very interesting. Very good video.
    But, is that a CPU if it can only compute one thing, even if that thing is turing complete ?
    Or I miss something in the explaination.

  • @snudget
    @snudget 9 місяців тому +1

    Soundstone/Jazzstone

  • @ProtoTensai
    @ProtoTensai 9 місяців тому +1

    this video was really good. I do have one question: Is the pattern that rule 110 produces Pascal's Triangle or is it something different?

  • @sanyeki238
    @sanyeki238 10 місяців тому +8

    Looking at the output, I wonder which relation is there between the shierpinki triangle, and rule 110. It really seems like its creating a fractal where there is not really a reason to do so

    • @isaiahgreenlee9273
      @isaiahgreenlee9273 10 місяців тому

      I noticed this as well, it might be fun to look into. There's something going on there for sure.

    • @want-diversecontent3887
      @want-diversecontent3887 10 місяців тому

      I think there's a small modification you can make to rule 110 to make it actually the sierpinski triangle.

    • @arctenik
      @arctenik 9 місяців тому +1

      rule 110 doesn't really have a fractal structure, but there are other cellular automata, such as rule 60, that do basically make sierpinski triangles!

  • @dylanbacon554
    @dylanbacon554 10 місяців тому

    love how i make a video explaining the calibrated sculk and then someone says "nobody will use this" and now everyone is using it

  • @s.b.5259
    @s.b.5259 5 місяців тому +2

    Neat! Fascinating video. But can it run Crysis?

  • @Samstercraft77
    @Samstercraft77 10 місяців тому

    when you have to muffle the muffler lmao

  • @jaysbadatgaming
    @jaysbadatgaming 10 місяців тому +2

    How could calibrated sculk sensors change the computer? Could you store data more efficiently by relaying different messages along different sound frequencies?

    • @whitestonejazz
      @whitestonejazz  10 місяців тому +5

      That's a great point. Some cellular automata use more than 2 colors. So it might be possible to make a similar computer that uses different sound frequencies with the calibrated sculk sensor to represent different colors

  • @kiritogrande7309
    @kiritogrande7309 9 місяців тому

    isnt that basically less bulky redstone?
    also, with that you can p much make a .5 hertz display which would be massive improvement (also easy and quick display 4x8 for counting items or sth)

  • @Leadvest
    @Leadvest 9 місяців тому

    You demonstrate phase delay and interference. I'm pretty sure that's already everything you need to create a Turing complete chaotic mapping system.

  • @MECKENICALROBOT
    @MECKENICALROBOT 10 місяців тому +1

    Wow…. And with sculk 😭, I wonder if you’ve demonstrated the sound stone should be 4x faster.

  • @Qexilber
    @Qexilber 9 місяців тому

    The singular is AUTOMATON!

  • @flameofthephoenix8395
    @flameofthephoenix8395 9 місяців тому

    I still don't understand how exactly the wool muffling works, if you put wool directly to the right of the sound will it completely prevent anything to right of the sound from hearing it?

  • @booxmowo2684
    @booxmowo2684 9 місяців тому

    I've been thinking about this video while testing Sculk Sensors in my own world and a thought occurred to me: You said the only Redstone Dust needed in this computer is to craft the pistons. Calibrated Sculk Sensors deafen themselves to all but one frequency when they're powered, including being powered by other Sculk Sensors... So you could probably build a version of this computer that doesn't use any Redstone Dust at all, which I think would be a first for Minecraft?

  • @simonrmerton
    @simonrmerton 10 місяців тому

    “Automata” is the plural of “automaton.”

  • @joshuaham1022
    @joshuaham1022 9 місяців тому

    Why does it make one half of a sierpinski triangle? This is really interesting!

    • @whitestonejazz
      @whitestonejazz  9 місяців тому +1

      The "triangles-of-triangles" pattern actually pops up in a lot of cellular automata. Sierpinski's triangle is just the most iconic example. It's just one member of a big triangle-of-triangles family and this pattern is one of its relatives

  • @JavierSalcedoC
    @JavierSalcedoC 10 місяців тому

    I've seen that fractal before

  • @Rechenmaschine9752
    @Rechenmaschine9752 10 місяців тому

    Sierpinski Triangel wow

  • @emilyyyylime-
    @emilyyyylime- 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm pretty sure for the main logic gates you could've just... not connected the red wire into the or?

    • @whitestonejazz
      @whitestonejazz  10 місяців тому +1

      Nice. I didn't see that setup when working on this. Good catch.

  • @imluctor5997
    @imluctor5997 9 місяців тому

    btw you can now change the tick speed of the game so now people can make mich better stuff with just redstone and command blocks and stuff

  • @_BangDroid_
    @_BangDroid_ 9 місяців тому

    What does it look like on map art?

  • @totiimizictudor
    @totiimizictudor 8 місяців тому +1

    From mogswamp :))

  • @gabrielnobrev
    @gabrielnobrev 9 місяців тому

    This reminds me of Five Pebbles from Rain World

  • @proffesseurevil
    @proffesseurevil 9 місяців тому

    Its well done, but I wish you could go a little more in depth with your explanations.
    Its very hard to follow along if you just show all the wires(some with thicker strips, that werent explained and more..
    Maybe a simplified drawing or a simpler mechanism that just shows the operation you are talking about in the moment.
    The three dimensional nature just makes it hard to grasp what part you are referring to soemtimes.
    Furthermore, you say that these mechanisms are not repeatable with normal Redstone, could you elaborate?
    But great idea and a very creative usage indeed!

  • @kevincolwell2115
    @kevincolwell2115 9 місяців тому

    Am I weird for thinking this is really sexy?

  • @rainy2063
    @rainy2063 9 місяців тому

    i miss ilmango :(

  • @SirSpence99
    @SirSpence99 10 місяців тому +1

    Please don't put your camera in the top left and also make it a bit smaller. You had several times where your camera was blocking what you were showing.
    Also having a buffer between the edges and the camera is wasted space. The transparent edge on the top and left isn't useful because you can't see what is there all that well.

  • @5omebody
    @5omebody 9 місяців тому

    nit: de morgan's law isn't so much "a formula that modern logic is based on", and more a law derived from how logic works
    nit 2: a lot of computer science isn't really about logic - _especially_ the fundamental (conceptual) building blocks of computers, like turing machines and lambda calculus

  • @upstudio9708
    @upstudio9708 6 місяців тому

    From cookie clicker to computers

  • @OMEGAOUTDOORS-hm1vi
    @OMEGAOUTDOORS-hm1vi 4 місяці тому

    The cookie clicker Bot thing that you made to tell you when to make purchases is telling me to make upgrades before i get the achievment that i need to have no upgrades to get. Can you help me?

  • @concretewater7023
    @concretewater7023 7 місяців тому

    hello, i love your permaculture series, i'm a french student in art school and i'm making a video, and i would love to get in contact with you!
    I'm making an edit with real footage of my county, with a lot of deforestation. I'm trying to make a parallel with minecraft and that's how i discover your channel and your minecraft serie. I would love to talk with you about what you've tried to create and teach throught your stuff and also extend the thoughts beyond minecraft
    have nice a nice winter holidays

  • @LethalChicken77
    @LethalChicken77 9 місяців тому

    What is the mod that lets you change the tps?

  • @KattyD_
    @KattyD_ 10 місяців тому

    Neat

  • @existereOracle
    @existereOracle 10 місяців тому

    but if you made it out of redstone it would be like half the size and twice as fast?? why sculk...

  • @tsumgye5370
    @tsumgye5370 10 місяців тому

    tonal architecture

  • @ilyapaliy
    @ilyapaliy 9 місяців тому

    Comment just for cool music at the end of the video👍

  • @aarohtewani9341
    @aarohtewani9341 10 місяців тому

    Hey are you planning to continue your permaculture series?

    • @whitestonejazz
      @whitestonejazz  10 місяців тому

      I'm not sure. It's gonna be 1/video per month from here on. So permaculture will be on the list but it will probably just be one permaculture episode a year.

  • @caltheuntitled8021
    @caltheuntitled8021 10 місяців тому

    That’s pretty cool, but can it run Doom?

  • @Moutchitos
    @Moutchitos 10 місяців тому +1

    can it run doom?

  • @CasualPythonCoder
    @CasualPythonCoder 9 місяців тому

    You sound just like Veritasium

  • @TheRubiksrocks
    @TheRubiksrocks 9 місяців тому

    What happened to RedstoneJazz, your original channel?!?

    • @whitestonejazz
      @whitestonejazz  9 місяців тому

      I deleted it years ago... then decided to come back to UA-cam. Not great planning on my part

  • @Lotrollo
    @Lotrollo 10 місяців тому

    add ping pong

  • @jurjen909
    @jurjen909 10 місяців тому

    SculkStone sounds much nicer than SoundStone

  • @iiZeRo
    @iiZeRo 5 місяців тому

    Hi, im just telling you that im from MogsWamp Video, Bye

  • @wurdleturtle1
    @wurdleturtle1 10 місяців тому

    When Minecraft in minecraft? lol

  • @kyleyoung2464
    @kyleyoung2464 10 місяців тому +1

    I thought skulk was useless lol

  • @goeiecool9999
    @goeiecool9999 9 місяців тому

    I guess you can get away with calling it a computer, but I don't think I agree with calling it a CPU.