Shooting the X-Pan w/ flash in Barcelona
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2019
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Just recently I went to Barcelona to film a new “How I Shoot” episode for the Season 3 that will come later this year. But there was a problem with the film rolls that I brought with me on that trip. Most of the photos that I shot in Barcelona are pretty much unusable which is a shame. I wanted to delete all the footage from Barcelona but then I thought maybe you might be interested to watch it anyways. I could kind of rescue some of the photos with some heavy post-processing.
While I was there, I picked up a flash and for the video I wanted to use it out on the streets. In front of the flash, I put a CTO gel to compensate for the tungsten film that I was shooting. Because of the issue with the film, I will give it another shot in a future video.
In this video, you can see my friend Shao shooting an M6 with the same film and using the flash too.
Developing and scanning by Silbersalz35
Hope you enjoy the episode, see you in the next video! :)
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Large lesson here!.......... Develop your own at home!!
The result would have been the same! Like I mentioned in the video, the film had been exposed to light and happened before I even shot it.
You actually can’t with Silbersalz film. They have a special progress
@@ReneSebastian Well, true and not true. It's Kodak Vision3 processed in ECN-2 chemicals, which uses the same developer as RA4 colour paper. I develop this at home, just google around a bit.
The fun part for us is, looking at you having a good time, big smile on your face, shooting, and we can look at the results, and again watching you smile in the video, with ho idea of what's coming.
Pity for you of course but great that you shared these images.
Even more respect buddy.
Keep up the good work !
Haha, thank you! I think having fun shooting is more important than the photos are. It still sucks not having the results you wanted but at least you had a good time shooting.
Even though the film was messed up, the real value was being able to watch you work from a 3rd person pov and a lot of us are curious how you handle the reactions of your subjects to the flash. Enjoyed this one and it didn't even matter much what the final photos looked like in the end.
Thank you James! There will be more 3rd person videos coming in the future! 🙂
Every other Streetphotographer: I hope nobody will see me.
Robin: shoots flash directly into everybody's face 😂
Shao: everybody sees him from afar because of his hair turban 🤣
You guys are priceless. 😆
Haha! Yeah, Shao draws a lot of attention, can't deny that. 🤣
The shot with pigeon and man is amazing!
Thank you! ✌️
this is actually one of my favourite videos of yours.
Thank you very much!
Zain Riza Likewise
Thank you! I've been waiting for this episode! It was interesting
Thank you!
This episode is very entertaining, the pictures leave a direct artistic impression. I'm looking forward to the next episode.
I really love this video. And the photos OMG 😍📸
Thank you! ✌️
Its so funny how the people react towards an older photographer and a younger! Good episode!
Sorry for calling you old 😂
Haha! I don't think it's the age difference and rather the totally different approach. 😅
@@therealsirrobin I wasn't expecting a reaction at all but now you're here, what would be the big difference between the approaches? Best regards!
I still really like the pictures. The light leaks made it a bit unique.
Thank you Patric!
Happy to see this because i might be living there soon. I have already done some street photography there but as a tourist. Hopefully the rules are just a formality ;) Great video as usual!
Thank you Robert! Great place to live and shoot! 👍
Could you make a video going more in depth on using this specific off camera flash?
I use a Leica M6 classic but not really sure how to utilize the flash on it. Great video by the way! Thanks!
loved it..
excellent episode as always.
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Thank you Frederik ! 🙂
You look like you are having way to much fun with that flash! ...If you bring that to Taiwan you will be walking the streets alone !... ha ha ha ...Awesome concept and nice to see a photographer thinking outside the box!...
Hm, I think I'll bring a second one for you and I will try my best to get you out of your comfort zone. 😅
We'll try to make it happen. 🙂
Thank you, great video 👍
Thanks Koen! 👏
Dont think I've ever tried flash in the daytime (for street) but seems pretty cool
Yeah, give it a try! 🙂👌
Good videos! And I liked the photos!
Thank you Lucas!
Hi Robin,
Great Video as always.
I am curious which little flash you used?
I have a Leica M42 and wish to use something small.
Thank‘s for any advice.
Cheers Holger
Hello Holger. The flash is a Fuji EX-20.
Hello Mr. Holger Engelhard , have you found a flash for your M42, because I am looking one for my m4-p. Any suggestions? Thanks!
Exciting stuff and you’re still a brave man but have the gift of getting away with it! Loads to coordinate plus zone focus, but despite the exposed film issue, I still like the look of what you produced. Many thanks for showing it.
Thank you very much! 👏
I too got 8 rolls of Silbersalz 35mm film (tungsten and daylight in several speeds), and 4 of them came back completely blank and the other 4 were barely salvageable. Silbersalz insisted that there must be something wrong with my camera, despite the fact I metered every shot perfectly and had no issues shooting Kodak and Cinestill films in the same photoshoots. What a total waste of money (a LOT of money) and time. 😭
That's sad to hear Frankie. I don't know what went wrong with your rolls but it doesn't seem to be the same issue. 🤔
@@therealsirrobin The rolls that were salvageable looked a lot like yours, not the worst quality scans but with some editing it was okay. Who knows what it was haha. But great video anyway! Thanks for sharing.
i waited for your new viedo. thank you
You are welcome! 😊
This is exactly why I develop my own film. I don't trust anyone else with my film. If I mess it up, that's on me.
Alex, the problem isn't related to developing, the film had been exposed to light before I even shot it.
@@therealsirrobin ah that sucks. Oh well, you still got some good shots.
Great !! Thank you!!!
You are welcome!
This is why I develop my own film.
Doesn't help when the film has been messed before even shooting it.
Awesome to see you using flash. Was there a reason (with nearly all the shots) you were shooting upwards. That is the flash and camera were pointing upwards at your subject (target)?
Thank you! I prefer shooting from a lower angle instead of head on.
Great video Robin
Thank you Marcel!
this is awesome :-)
I def. want to see more (normal) results using Tungsten film and a flash with a CTO gel. Hope you have more plans for that
I will probably give it another go! 👍
Was ist das für ein blitz ? War das dann eine M6 TTL? Ansonsten wie immer tolles Video mit vielen interessanten Einblicken und ich finde es immer wieder faszinierend, wie positiv du auf der Straße unterwegs bist.
Danke dir Eike! Der Blitz ist ein Fujifilm EX 20 und die M6 is keine TTL.
What a bummer. Great to hear about the Thailand workshops though!
Thank you Hashem! Glad yours turned out great though! 👌
@@therealsirrobin Thanks! More importantly the stuff you shot in Egypt for "28" was all good 😁
Yes, otherwise that would have been devastating. 😬
3:52 The difference between a good photo-you- and an amateur touristy photo-the gentleman taking their picture in the back. :D
😂 Thank you Daniel!
What's the name of the flash unit you're thinking about getting one for my Xpan. Any tips would be much appreciated! :)
I'll do a video talking about flash in the next couple of weeks.
Suppose I could do the same with my Hasselblad 503CX syncing to the leaf shutter. Any recommendation on a flash, trigger, bracket (vs handheld)...? Thx
You could but I am not sure if I would want to carry around a MF camera. But if you're OK with the increased weight then give it a go!
@@therealsirrobin I have no 35mm camera. I do have a Texas Leica, i.e. Fuji GF670, flash - let me see. Thx
Hi Robin. What kind of flash Xpan can use pls?
Almost every manual flash unit.
Man, what a huge bummer... Live and learn though, hahaha. I love Bruce Gilden's work, but I just can't get around the idea of using a flash for street. Not for any philosophical reason, just not my kind of aesthetic. I was partially hoping this would change my mind and help me step into new territory, but apparently not this time, hahaha. Thanks for an honest share on the experiment. It would have been "easy" to discard the video as failed footage, but it was really nice to see the whole thing.
Very nice work as always, Robin!
Haha, thank you Ivan! You can soon give it a try! 😛✌️
Aww that’s a real shame the Lab screwed your films. Time to use someone else to develop them? Glad that you showed the vlog to us though 👍
Thank you Russell! The thing is that the film was already messed up before shooting it.
Super Tolle Fotos trotz der falschen Belichtung des Films. Video wie gewohnt Top.
Danke dir!
Hey Robin! We're you still doing the x-ray experiment where you were testing what effect the airport scanners had?
Hey Chris! Yes, it's still on. Expect the result by the end of the year. 👏
@@therealsirrobin Haha alright, cool. Well I'm traveling to Myanmar with about forty rolls in two weeks. Passing four scanning that I know of. So if anything happens I let you know haha.
I think you'll be fine. Just make sure you bring all the film in your carry-on.
snap and go!
I was pretty focusing on your works though, until your teammate apeared, and I just focused then all the way to his haircut. LoL It's a pretty amazing haircut lol
😂
Still alot of good photos :)
Thank you Chris! 🙂
such a bummer! You're being a good sport about it. I guess Silbersalz have quality control on the to-do list. You can replace the rolls, not the experience.
Are you already thinking of a workshop schedule anywhere in Europe?
Thank you! 😊 I don't have any dates yet but there will probably be some coming up next year! 👌
@@therealsirrobin that would be sweet, happy to sign up for one, a great excuse for travel :)
Shit happens, you should try to develop your self. More control and you are pissed at your self if you screw up. How ever nice video , I am excited for the new series.
Dankeschön! Developing myself would have given me the same results. The film had been exposed to light before even shooting it! 😭
This is why I NEVER shoot film only when I leave my country. We don't have a lot of money to travel and I always take my Fujifilm mirrorless as a backup. Some places you can only see once in your life and I would be pissed for the rest of my life if I had no photos because of some incompetent film lab
Even when shooting digital you can lose your photos, it happened before and will happen again in the future. Things can go wrong but that's all part of the game.
wait? the x-pan is a manual rangefinder, seems quite hard to hold the flash and also focus...but great as always!
Thank you! Focusing wasn't that hard, thanks to the flash I could stop down to f11 and the resulting depth of field is wide enough. ✌️
@@therealsirrobin yeah i noticed that focusing was'nt that much of a problem when you mentioned you're shooting at f11 in the video. haha. thanks for the reply though!
PS: die Silbersalz Filme sehen super interessant aus. Werd ich auch mal austesten. Danke dafür :)
@the_real_sir_robin what speed was the guy using in the leica m6 for the drag of light???
I think it was 1/8th.
Aren't you worried since Spain is the only country afaik where you aren't allowed to take pictures of people?
No, not at all.
fuck, now I‘m super afraid, I sent film back to Silbersalz two weeks ago...
No worries. As far as I know, they reached out to all the people that picked up film rolls that are affected.
the_real_sir_robin thanks robin, you made my sunday sleep well again, had shot 12 rolls in north spain trip
Gel on the flash should be resulting that ...Try with filter on lens and no gel on flash...we never know.
This has nothing to do with a gel on the flash! It was an issue with the film itself.
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Congrats! 🍻
Hmm, prob best not to take pics of kids without permission… otherwise cool video.
Well normally I really enjoy your videos, however this one seems very creepy and not professional in anyway. Street photography can always be challenging and of course many different approaches can be used. But running up to someone and putting your camera and flash right in there face, snapping the photo and darting off is seriously a terrible method in my book.
You can like it or not but it is not becoming creepy or terrible just because it is out of your comfort zone. I know some photographers that use flash a lot and you'd be surprised how little problems they run into because of that. If done in a non confrontational way I don't see any problem with using flash in street photography. As you can see in the video, no one freaks out or reacts in a negative way. It was rather the opposite, people seemed to find it amusing.
the_real_sir_robin Actually I completely agree and disagree with that statement Flash photography can definitely be used in street photography for sure so that I agree with, however your statement of a “non confrontational way” and “no one freaks out” is kinda bogus because you basically ran away very fast from your subjects so they really did not have time to react to you “click and run” style.
tan898 - I agree 101% . It is time that photographers and concerned citizens open a dialog on public photography and the behavior of photographers pursuing their craft. This would be a social rather than a legal discussion, but nevertheless it ought to lead to an elevated and widely understood “code of conduct” for photographers who operate in public places. Please message me privately if you wish to collaborate on this initiative.