Good info here! I used the Kicker KISLOC2 (2-channel line-out converter) for a number of years before getting the AudioControl LC2i Pro. The Kicker LOC does a nice job at doing what it designed for, but there is nothing to customize/tweek for your specific audio setup and needs. But at $15, the Kicker KISLOC2 is great if you need a no frills LOC. The AudioControl LOC's are definitely worth it though.. no regrets there!
I have a range of videos from basic to advanced. I can't possibly simplify every video because then advanced guys will get bored. Rather than complaining I'd suggest taking action and watching the others on the channel
Right!? A simple addition to the description like “Hey, if you need a simpler video click on this one” would have been awesome. I guess that would make too much sense. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ .
Mark on a 2015 ford explorer xlt could i run that line out power and ground to the amp to turn on since the wire will not be long enough to run from the radio to the rear@CarAudioFabrication
This has been really helpful. I just purchased a new car and love the head unit. And was dreading the idea of trying to replace it to put my subs in and had no idea how these worked.
For subwoofers, i suggest Audio Controls Epicenter micro, comes with a 2 in 1 Bass knob, the inner knob controls Total Bass volume, and the outer knob controls the amount of Bass restoration you want to add to music that hass little to no bass= this can add it! Its also an active line out converter!
I don't have room behind my headunit where I have my current loc. Would I be able to wire one of these under my driver side seat? Or would that be too far from the source unit?
How would the remote gain work on this LOC when you already have a remote gain on the amp itself ? Would you use both? Can you use both? How do you tell how much gain you need to set on the LOC I know how to set the gain on the amp but what are you looking to do with the gains on the LOC???
i almost maxxed my gain on my LOC just under any distortion at 3/4 head unit volume. tuned the sub amp from there (gain,subsonic, hpf) while playing at my top range volume that i listen to. then i control how much bass i want at any volume with my bass knob. i usually run my amp gain a little higher than needed so i can have more bass when im listening at lower volumes. idk if this helps but ive been doing it this way for years. ✌️
I currently have a lc2 from an old system. Can i use that 1 lc2 for 2 amplifiers? 1 amp for subs and 1 amp for mids/ highs? If so how would i separate the factory speaker wires into the lc2. Thank you!
I have a car with premium system on it, but i want to add 2 speaker conponents and a bass so is going to be 2 amps can i take the signals from the speakers with out disconecting them?
Just seeing this, I’m going to start an install on my MK8 in a week or so when all the parts come in. From what I’ve seen on the forums you can access the rear speaker wires in the B pillar. I’ll take a video of what I find and see if it works 🤘🏼
Some aftermarket head units are low voltage, and can only be tuned with an amplifier to a degree so there's no clipping signals. LOCs can boost that volume level to high and clear without any clips in the signals.
I'm hoping that's what's wrong with my system I barely get to the point where it sounds good and it's clipping. I hope this LC2i helps out with that so I can get more voltage to my amp.
@@cptklutch26 You have the Lc2i, not the pro? The Lc2i, has a built in Pfm= 33Hz bass cut off, so if you want lower Hz than that, get the Lc2i Pro= 20Hz, or better yet, the Best Loc for Bass, by Audio Control, in my opinion= the Epicenter micro, has a switch to turn OFF the pfm= goes down to 10Hz, has Bass restoration, plus comes with a ACR4 Bass knob= 2 Knobs in 1= inner Knob controls total output/volume of bass, and the outer Knob controls how much bass restoration you want to add( best to use bass restoration for music that has little to No bass present).Either of these Ac Locs can boost the output voltage very high if needed, up to 9.5volts of clean output! 99% of the time 4 to 5 volts is the most RCA output voltage you will ever need/want!
So, with AudioControl being such an important long-term sponsor, do you get a little more "one-on-one" with the company compared to the rest of the world? Maybe connections to someone who can answer "when" (not 'if' LOL) they'll re-introduce a version of the ESP-2 and/or ESP-3? And maybe replacement controllers for the original models? The ESP and Epicenter have always been, and in my opinion at least, will always be among the most iconic processors in the mobile audio industry. They've milked the Epicenter for decades while leaving the ESPs bleeding out in a shallow grave. Any chance you've got ties to someone who can bring 'em back to life for us?
This is going to sound stupid but I have a 2015 Durango RT with the Beats system in it. Looking to replace all the speakers with more powerful ones and same with the sub. Given that there are signal wires for the tweeters, mids and sub, should I buying 3 LOCs? Additionally, there are currently 9 speakers + 1 sub in the truck. I'm looking to add 2 tweeters and two mids to the mix. Should I be running 3 amps? Again, just here to learn
Would i be able to run the 12v power line with the one to my sub all the way to the battery if i use the GTO setting so it only turns on when i turned on the volume ?
Question here. If you’re running the speaker input off a factory sub wire, would you just connect them to one set of the positive and negative terminals? Regardless of left or right?
Great video, very well done. That said, just getting an amplifier that already has high level inputs seems like a much easier solution, or am I missing something?
Yes grab ferrule crimpers I’m in the process of installing cxa300 to a 10 inch compC I’m using the KISSLER method due to less wiring with DC offset I’m looking into other LOCs but it looks lik it’s not needed considering I really only need lows
On a previous video you showed using a single set of speaker wires from a stock sub set up. Knowing this, can I run a single set of speaker wires from one of the rear doors to achieve the same result?
@@gtaylor1564Amazing amp. Paired with the LCQ1 I only have that gain up about a quarter and with the accubass and eq the thing rumbles it gets really deep. You got 4 !!! oh boy it’s gon rip ya car apart.
what if i have 3 amps one amp for my door speakers , one for my sub, and 1 for a rack with 8” mids . would i need to use seperate loc’s or would 1 connect to everything?
@@oscarperez-yd9vx yes you’ll need it to boost music signal without aftermarket radio. Lc2i pro will let you adjust music settings in factory head unit while still being able to tune further directly on amp and LOC
Not sure if this will get a response but.... I have a 2019 Subaru that I've installed new door speakers with amplifier, subwoofer with an amplifier, and a plug-and-play android head unit replacement (replaces the entire center console area and retains all factory features). I enjoy the head unit, and the door speakers are loud and clear. But the subwoofer leaves much to be desired. I had this amp/sub setup in a prior vehicle so I know this side of things isn't to blame. The issue I'm having is the sub output is nearly non-existent at low volume levels, and then jumps to nearly max output at the top 10% of the head unit volume. One issue I see is the subwoofer output is a single RCA but the front channel is dual. I was wondering if I switched to a line output converter like this, if it might take care of this issue? Or if you had any other checks or suggestions?
What is the remote wire going to in this example? I thought most people attach it to the amplifier. I didn't see the wire going to the amp so i was confused.
Great stuff here. Thanks for the info. Now I have a question. Can you use the LC2 to run more than 1 aftermarket amp? Like a midrange amp and a sub amp? Can you use both main outputs and sub outputs at the same time?
Hey mark ! When running the 4 wires for the R and L from the factory radio to my trunk. What is the best wire to use here ? I ran 16 gauge but then realized I could of just chopped an rca . Thank you !
I have a 2017 Honda pilot elite , I’m planning to upgrade all the speakers to JL c2 and components to the front plus I want to install a 4 channels amplifier to run them and I will like to have the option that I want to add an aftermarket subwoofer later I could . The question I have is which converter do I need the LC2i , LC2i pro , LC6i , LC7i or LC8i ?
Can I send the speaker out of the factory amp to the factory speakers AND the LOC? Is that dangerous? I assume it changes the impedance and will affect the volume of those speakers but I don't mind that. I want to add a powered subwoofer to the factory system of a 2005 Lexus RX330. Thanks!
Does wire guage matter for speakers when using an loc? I have 4 6.5in speakers 250w rms 1000w max that ill be installing into the doors. Im running 18awg speed wire from speaker harness to loc. Do I need to run seperate thicker wires from each speaker or will 18awg be fine?
So I already have a amp and sub connected in my car with a cheap plug and play LOC but I wanted to know if I get something like the LC2i pro would I be able to add another amp for my door speakers ?
I am installing an LOC in my Yukon and I am confused about how to set the output levels of the LOC. I know that the gain on an amp is supposed to be set to the same level of the RCA preamp output voltage, but an LOC effectively creates its own RCA output from speaker levels, and not all head units have the same output levels. I am using an aftermarket pioneer CD player(from 2005, lol) which has 4 volt RCA outputs, all being used currently, and am adding the LOC to the rear speaker outputs of the CD player to gain an additional subwoofer output. I am doing so because I am assuming that if I were to use Y adapters to split the sub output RCAs to 2 amps, it would effectively cut the output voltage the amps would see from 4 volts with one amp to 2 volts each with 2 amps. If that is not the case and amps see 4 volts regardless of splitting the signal, I would not need the LOC after all. Please advise.
Do you need a LOC for a aftermarket pioneer radio and dual enclosure subs with a 1200 watt amp? This is my first time. I’m just trying to make sure I have all I need for my ram 1500 classic warlock
So i just want to double check If I have a sub that came with my car like stock. In the frame Do I need the converter. Can't I just use the wires that go to that sub since its all ready low signal. To go to my amp for my big sub. Or will I still need the converter
Was wondering do you have to use both left n right speaker wire or can we use just the left only? Would it still work ? Or we need use both left n right?
I need to know this to. I have a factory premium navigation radio that I'd like to just keep since it sounds ok and has a factory subwoofer that I'm hoping will sou d good with a added dual 10in sub box wired into the system. But it's a single 2ohm subwoofer so I don't know if I should use the rear deck speaker leads or he sub wire to just the one input on the loc.
If im looking to install two amps. 1st to power my four component speakers (2 channel is what i already have) and a 2nd for a single sub would i need 2 LOCs?
Stupid question i suppose, but i bought an 80s vehicle and a buddy if mine suggested an LOC to remove the necessity to hook the 12v hookup to my battery so i dont have to go through the firewall. Is this a true statement for an LOC?
Can i use this to get my factory sub signal and also get full range signal and if so which side do I put the sub signal and full signal? I would be using a mono block amp for sub signal and 4 channel amp for front and rear speakers. Also would I just splice into the front and rear speaker wires to run them to the 4 channel amp? So I would end up with 4 sets of spliced speaker wires
Do i need an aditional device if i use the lc7i audio control LOC with a 5 way amplifier to run a full system with 3 ways speakers in the front, coax in the rear and a subwoofer
So I have a cassette stereo from the 90s and it has rca outs for the rear speakers, could I just get Y adapters and connect those to a 4 channel amp or should i do this instead
Love all the videos that you produce, thank your! If I may make a suggestion, please try to minimize the hand gestures. Respectfully, a little bit of it good but if used all the time, it becomes a distruction to what already is a great video. It feels like they are translating what is being said. Thanks again!
I have an infiniti fx35, my car has two bose amplifier, one for mids high and other for subwoofer. Do I need 2 loc? The mid high line doesn't have any bass
Hello. Can you help me? I have active subwoofer alpine SWE-815 but I want to install adapter low high because I don't have rca out in my factory Radio. Can I do this? Thanks
So what do you need a line output converter for a vehicle that already has a factory subwoofer? Or can I just splice and input those to my aftermarket amp?
Hi , I got a question. A Mazda 3 Bose audio system which has a 9 speakers how many channels LOC should pick up while a subwoofer ( with built in amplifier).
Hello. The rear speaker on my Toyota 2020. Have so low voltage from factory headunit. And low bass. Ist posible to Rise voltage Whit a loc. And get more volyme and bass. Or use only front Chanel and amplify to 4ch amp? And lose fade funktion?
Great video! Getting ready to install a Audiocontrol Lc2i Pro and a 100watt powered 10" Bazooka tube subwoofer in my 2015 Cadillac CTS. Great information here. Definitely gonna subscribe.
So if I understand this correctly, to remedy the roll off we use the threshold knob but this only affects the same music type it was tested on right? Some songs have stronger bass that will trigger it earlier in my experience
@@tapig3322using modern hu's for music usually sucks if there is a bass hpf on the outputs, best approach is getting an amp with a dsp or a dsp that has at least 2ch's with summing ability and a basic cheap loc to get the navigation sounds vice versa from the hu then sum those navigation and other hu sounds in -12db and use the other source of the dsp or an dsp'ed amp to stream music directly from your phone or a dac/player. bringing the bass back with the whatever algorithm these "bass bringer's" may give off unintended signals and simply act stupid, also although controlling the bass with a knob for each song is kinda ok its still not practical, especially if you want songs to play as the engineer intended.
09 Honda Accord EX-L without Navigation has center sub. Can I just tap in those to wires to the left speaker input off the factory wires? Does have a factory amp, so there should be no issue going right off those 2 wires. Going to check voltage and all that right now with multimeter and SMD Test CD. I believe that it should be fairly easy give it already has factory sub, No?
Is it possible to use the factory subwoofer wires to the LOC? I was hoping to replace the stock sub for an aftermarket amp/sub. I would only have one set of wires to connect to the LOC, so wasnt sure if that would be an issue.
So when you using dsp and setting crossovers on it for speakers, would you set the amp Hz levels and gains to medium or low? Because nornally an amp has hz and gain adjustments available
I remember when i could just wired everything to my head unit and be on my way now that i have a newer car i have to figure how to get factory signals ugh. Thanks mazda for doing bose systems makes things difficult
I installed an LC7i in my range rover which has the meridian surround system and setting up the accubass correctly is a nightmare. Without an RTA it's pretty much impossible.
If I tap into rear speakers to get a signal for a subwoofer amp, how do I maintain a signal to the factory speakers from the point at which I connect the LOC?
You just splice= (cut back the speaker wire shielding, twist a new wire around the speaker wire, then soldier, and or use electrical tape around exposed wires), do this to both rear speakers, and run the spliced in new wires to the line out converter.
I have a couple of questions Mark , by using the right and left channel from the rear speakers do you piggy back off the speakers or lose the speakers in place of the amplifier? I ask due to signal degrading and it's effectively changing the ohm's? Obviously losing the speakers to fit an amp for a sub is not ideal would a 4 channel be best as to run the rears off 2 channels then bridge the others for the sub? Cheers
You don’t loose the power to the speakers. I’ve installed a few active subwoofers in the past just by talking the signal from the speakers, no problems at all in two different vehicles with factory unit.
@@eduardosanchez7827 looking to do this in my f150 instead of pulling my stock head unit apart. Do I need to tap on from left and right rear door speakers or can I just tap in from one? Thanks
@@ratherbeboyz4485 you have to tap both speakers so you get a “full signal”. I just did this in my SUV last month. I installed a kicker amplified under seat subwoofer
Hello! I have myself a 2 door VW Mk5 Golf so I'm tapping into the rear 2 woofers(speakers) for signal for the Subwoofer AMP and I have a question... for the REMOTE IN where's best to actually get it from? Since I'm doing pretty much everything in the back of the car, even the battery... I wouldn't really want to go to the headunit with a wire for it. I have the regular LC2i. Thank you in advance!
I tapped into my center console cigarette lighter positive to get mine. Fuseboxes also work just make sure that whatever positive you're using is off when the car is off. Using a source that is active even with car off/key out will work to turn the amp on but will obviously keep the amp running until the battery voltage goes below minimum voltage for amp. Also, make sure that the positive has enough voltage for your needs...typically, you'll have enough power to turn on 1or 2 amps/devices via remote in using a 12 v positive.
I have been looking at the LC8i for a friend who wants to upgrade his Bose system. The benefit with it is that that there is an AUX in feature which is another thing he is looking for. A 2-in-1 solution.
Looking to install a sub and 2 speakers to the stock radio. Can I use the LC Pro to control all 3? Do you still need to run power to the amplifier separately or just off the LOC?
But can you splice the wires so you can feed both the speaker and the converter.. or for example, if you just want to add subs do you have to sacrifice two speakers because you can not splice ?
Hi, I love your content and I’m about to start two project cars. For me it’s going to be the whole deal (DSP, two amps, etc). For my wife’s car I was wondering about adding a small kenwood active subwoofer, it already comes with the speaker signal input, would you recommend using the AudioControl LC2 Pro to feed the sub instead of going straight from the speaker wires? I mean, it’s a powered sunflower from a reputable brand. Thanks in advance
Question if I bought the epicenter micro do I also need to purchase a lc2i pro to deal with the stock audio roll off or can epicenter micro deal with both the roll off and bass enhancement?
The Epicenter micro, with the Bass restoration, can compensate for bass roll off, and even adds bass that was not there by sampling freq. above the cutoff of Bass notes. Also has a 2 into 1 Bass knob, outer Knob is for Amount of Bass Restoration, inner Knob is for Total Subwoofer Volume= Awesome, plus its an active line out converter!
I have a 2020 Corolla with JBL package (garbage). I’m using the Audio Control LC1i to connect an aftermarket subwoofer. Question: I have to turn up the gain fully clockwise to achieve a max voltage output of 3.9 volts (on LOC). Any ideas why I can not achieve more voltage? I’m definitely doing something wrong as I want to put 5 volts into my aftermarket mono amp (Kenwood).
Are you using both left and right speaker wires, going into the high level inputs? If not, that is why. Also, you can just splice into the wires from both speakers, and use them aswell, just use electrical tape to cover the exposed wire.
It doesn’t matter if you choose left or right and only have those two connected, as long as you have atleast one +\-, you’re good since subs play low frequency pretty much at all times during a song
I’m planning to add a sub to my 2022 Silverado non Bose system. I’d like to use the epicenter micro for the high level. Will a LC2i Pro still be needed for accubass
This is a great question! The technical/most expensive answer is yes, they= Ac would recommend both. But do you REALLY need both= i dont really think so, here is why? The Epicenter micro has Bass restoration built in= it takes a sample of the full range freq. responce, and adds in freq. that either are not present, or are very weak, and increases the output by the amount you choose with included ACR4 (2) into 1 Bass Knob.( inner Knob= Total subwoofer Volume control, and the outer Knob= Amount of Bass Restoration you want to add!). Plus the micro is the only Epicenter with A Pfm you can switch off! Pfm on starts limiting Bass output @ 25Hz, and with Pfm set to off= 10Hz!
@@evilinside5984if the "bass restoration" works exactly this way, that means that it may generate completly wrong frequencies and warp the amplitude/decay and delay the frequencies in an unwanted way.
Hey Mark...I Have A Question...I Have The LCQ-1 And The Maximized Light Is Always On...I've Tried A Different Ground From What The Guys From Audio Control Told Me To Do...But Still Not Good...What Are My Options Of What It Can It Be...Any Help Will Do....Thank You In Advance
@@B15SDMDESIGNS Yes Everything Was Down All The Way...And Still Light On..But When I Turn Radio On The Ppwer Light Turns On And Maximized Light Turns Off...Once I Turn It All Off The Maximized Light Turns Back On
Looking for help I just put a lci with just the subwoofer output ….. but my car is a g8 it’s had two factory subwoofers in back desk …. So do I need to run a neg and pos wire from both factory subwoofers to the lci or just one factory subwoofer ??? So it’s like your setup on the table but u only have one subwoofer output on the table my car has two subwoofers
Super helpful information, helped me get the right gear that I needed for my truck. Thank you. Was looking at the epicenter to draw signal from my factory radio to my sub amp. Is that an active LOC as well?
Yes, they are active. I recommend the Epicenter micro, because its the only epicenter that you can turn off their Pfm= blocks low freq. ( most AC products with the Pfm is factory set to start cutting bass @ 33Hz, the micros Pfm, when set to on= 25Hz, but with the Pfm switch set to off=10Hz before it cuts bass output), and comes with a 2 in 1, ACR4 bass knob= inner knob controls total Bass volume, and the outer knob controls the amount of Bass restoration you want to add!
I use a DQ61 and I get an echo on the rear channel when I added a second mid and high amplifier for the back doors. Any ideas? There was no echo when I used a 4 channel amp using front and rear rca’s from the DQ61. Also when I use the pass through the front amp to the rear amp there is no echo. Only when I use the rear channel separate on the dq61 to a separate amplifier. Thanx.
Because there is delay somewhere in the signal chain. Try using the same signal for front and rear. You will lose fade capability but everything will at least be in time. Or go all out and get a DSP so you can time correct all speakers.
I recently installed a plug and play amp for the car speakers and now my sub amp signal is not as clean with the lc2i. I can’t get it right. What could be the issue?
What do you mean= plug n play amp? How DID you have your Lc2i hooked up, prior to your "plug n play amp? We have to know what you changed from before, to after, to know what to look for.
@@evilinside5984 so it’s a VW. Focal makes plug and play door speakers and a “plug and play” amp focal impluse 4.320. My sub amp is separate but connected to the headunit for speaker signal. After installing the focal amp for the speakers, my sub does not sound as clean and the signal is much different
@@Smallyardguy When you say head unit, is there a separate factory speaker wire output, or is that the same speaker wire, connected to the now powered, plug, and play, speaker amp combo? If its not separate, your new amplifier, may exceed the input voltage, that the Audio Control LOC, can handle, causing your distortion/unclean sound?
Good info here! I used the Kicker KISLOC2 (2-channel line-out converter) for a number of years before getting the AudioControl LC2i Pro. The Kicker LOC does a nice job at doing what it designed for, but there is nothing to customize/tweek for your specific audio setup and needs. But at $15, the Kicker KISLOC2 is great if you need a no frills LOC. The AudioControl LOC's are definitely worth it though.. no regrets there!
This guy explaines well if your already a professional
I have a range of videos from basic to advanced. I can't possibly simplify every video because then advanced guys will get bored. Rather than complaining I'd suggest taking action and watching the others on the channel
Right!? A simple addition to the description like “Hey, if you need a simpler video click on this one” would have been awesome. I guess that would make too much sense. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ .
Mark on a 2015 ford explorer xlt could i run that line out power and ground to the amp to turn on since the wire will not be long enough to run from the radio to the rear@CarAudioFabrication
This has been really helpful. I just purchased a new car and love the head unit. And was dreading the idea of trying to replace it to put my subs in and had no idea how these worked.
For subwoofers, i suggest Audio Controls Epicenter micro, comes with a 2 in 1 Bass knob, the inner knob controls Total Bass volume, and the outer knob controls the amount of Bass restoration you want to add to music that hass little to no bass= this can add it! Its also an active line out converter!
Can you use both pre amp outputs on the line output converter for 2 amps? Or can you only pick one
Man Marc from CAF alway goes up and and above all his videos VERY INFORMATIVE!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I don't have room behind my headunit where I have my current loc. Would I be able to wire one of these under my driver side seat? Or would that be too far from the source unit?
How would the remote gain work on this LOC when you already have a remote gain on the amp itself ? Would you use both? Can you use both? How do you tell how much gain you need to set on the LOC I know how to set the gain on the amp but what are you looking to do with the gains on the LOC???
i almost maxxed my gain on my LOC just under any distortion at 3/4 head unit volume. tuned the sub amp from there (gain,subsonic, hpf) while playing at my top range volume that i listen to. then i control how much bass i want at any volume with my bass knob. i usually run my amp gain a little higher than needed so i can have more bass when im listening at lower volumes. idk if this helps but ive been doing it this way for years. ✌️
I currently have a lc2 from an old system. Can i use that 1 lc2 for 2 amplifiers? 1 amp for subs and 1 amp for mids/ highs? If so how would i separate the factory speaker wires into the lc2.
Thank you!
I have a car with premium system on it, but i want to add 2 speaker conponents and a bass so is going to be 2 amps can i take the signals from the speakers with out disconecting them?
Really wish ANYONE could shed some light on doing this with a 2022 VW GTI MK8. There’s no one around that has confidence to take one the job. Smh
I have a 2020 GTI and have subwoofer installed
Find a radio pin out and go from there
Bro same here cannot find anyone willing to touch these
@@sleepy35th got a similar problem with the MG 😅 guess I gotta get my hands dirty
Just seeing this, I’m going to start an install on my MK8 in a week or so when all the parts come in. From what I’ve seen on the forums you can access the rear speaker wires in the B pillar. I’ll take a video of what I find and see if it works 🤘🏼
Some aftermarket head units are low voltage, and can only be tuned with an amplifier to a degree so there's no clipping signals. LOCs can boost that volume level to high and clear without any clips in the signals.
I'm hoping that's what's wrong with my system I barely get to the point where it sounds good and it's clipping. I hope this LC2i helps out with that so I can get more voltage to my amp.
@@cptklutch26 You have the Lc2i, not the pro? The Lc2i, has a built in Pfm= 33Hz bass cut off, so if you want lower Hz than that, get the Lc2i Pro= 20Hz, or better yet, the Best Loc for Bass, by Audio Control, in my opinion= the Epicenter micro, has a switch to turn OFF the pfm= goes down to 10Hz, has Bass restoration, plus comes with a ACR4 Bass knob= 2 Knobs in 1= inner Knob controls total output/volume of bass, and the outer Knob controls how much bass restoration you want to add( best to use bass restoration for music that has little to No bass present).Either of these Ac Locs can boost the output voltage very high if needed, up to 9.5volts of clean output! 99% of the time 4 to 5 volts is the most RCA output voltage you will ever need/want!
@@evilinside5984 hey i have a question I think you’d know the answer to, can I pm u anyway?
So, with AudioControl being such an important long-term sponsor, do you get a little more "one-on-one" with the company compared to the rest of the world? Maybe connections to someone who can answer "when" (not 'if' LOL) they'll re-introduce a version of the ESP-2 and/or ESP-3? And maybe replacement controllers for the original models? The ESP and Epicenter have always been, and in my opinion at least, will always be among the most iconic processors in the mobile audio industry. They've milked the Epicenter for decades while leaving the ESPs bleeding out in a shallow grave. Any chance you've got ties to someone who can bring 'em back to life for us?
This is going to sound stupid but I have a 2015 Durango RT with the Beats system in it. Looking to replace all the speakers with more powerful ones and same with the sub. Given that there are signal wires for the tweeters, mids and sub, should I buying 3 LOCs? Additionally, there are currently 9 speakers + 1 sub in the truck. I'm looking to add 2 tweeters and two mids to the mix. Should I be running 3 amps? Again, just here to learn
Would i be able to run the 12v power line with the one to my sub all the way to the battery if i use the GTO setting so it only turns on when i turned on the volume ?
For the 12V connection, wouldn’t you want a switched 12v? Not constant?
so i have a JL Audio LOC, it has the power and ground. but where should an optimal spot to run those wires?
Question here. If you’re running the speaker input off a factory sub wire, would you just connect them to one set of the positive and negative terminals? Regardless of left or right?
Great video, very well done.
That said, just getting an amplifier that already has high level inputs seems like a much easier solution, or am I missing something?
Yes grab ferrule crimpers I’m in the process of installing cxa300 to a 10 inch compC I’m using the KISSLER method due to less wiring with DC offset I’m looking into other LOCs but it looks lik it’s not needed considering I really only need lows
So what powers the amp? Does the LOC power the amp, or does the wire need to be ran from the car battery?
When wiring a loc, can I just jump the wires off the factory speaker and leave my door speakers connected?
Can i use this with big speakers like for clubbing or party speakers
What about the kicker keyloc?
On a previous video you showed using a single set of speaker wires from a stock sub set up. Knowing this, can I run a single set of speaker wires from one of the rear doors to achieve the same result?
so if i connect the remote in from the loc to the radio and the rca from the loc to the amp is there any other wires i need to connect to the radio
Is the remote feature truly like a relay. In that it only turns on when the radio is on and doesn't drain the battery when the radio isn't on?
I have the LCQ1. It’s a beast the eq feature is amazing. Paired with the JL RD1500.1
I just ordered 4 of the jL audio 1500 how do you like the amp ?
@@gtaylor1564Amazing amp. Paired with the LCQ1 I only have that gain up about a quarter and with the accubass and eq the thing rumbles it gets really deep. You got 4 !!! oh boy it’s gon rip ya car apart.
Which one do I need for a mono and 4 amplifier in a Ram 1500
what if i have 3 amps one amp for my door speakers , one for my sub, and 1 for a rack with 8” mids . would i need to use seperate loc’s or would 1 connect to everything?
I have a 2020 Genesis G70 , I don't want to change my stock stereo , should I buy the LC2i Pro ?
Yes
@@oscarperez-yd9vx yes you’ll need it to boost music signal without aftermarket radio. Lc2i pro will let you adjust music settings in factory head unit while still being able to tune further directly on amp and LOC
Not sure if this will get a response but....
I have a 2019 Subaru that I've installed new door speakers with amplifier, subwoofer with an amplifier, and a plug-and-play android head unit replacement (replaces the entire center console area and retains all factory features).
I enjoy the head unit, and the door speakers are loud and clear. But the subwoofer leaves much to be desired. I had this amp/sub setup in a prior vehicle so I know this side of things isn't to blame.
The issue I'm having is the sub output is nearly non-existent at low volume levels, and then jumps to nearly max output at the top 10% of the head unit volume.
One issue I see is the subwoofer output is a single RCA but the front channel is dual. I was wondering if I switched to a line output converter like this, if it might take care of this issue? Or if you had any other checks or suggestions?
What is the remote wire going to in this example? I thought most people attach it to the amplifier. I didn't see the wire going to the amp so i was confused.
Great stuff here. Thanks for the info. Now I have a question. Can you use the LC2 to run more than 1 aftermarket amp? Like a midrange amp and a sub amp? Can you use both main outputs and sub outputs at the same time?
Hey mark ! When running the 4 wires for the R and L from the factory radio to my trunk. What is the best wire to use here ? I ran 16 gauge but then realized I could of just chopped an rca . Thank you !
I have a 2017 Honda pilot elite , I’m planning to upgrade all the speakers to JL c2 and components to the front plus I want to install a 4 channels amplifier to run them and I will like to have the option that I want to add an aftermarket subwoofer later I could . The question I have is which converter do I need the LC2i , LC2i pro , LC6i , LC7i or LC8i ?
What llc would be recommended to connect to a bm54 radio model out of a rangerover and bmw
Can I send the speaker out of the factory amp to the factory speakers AND the LOC? Is that dangerous? I assume it changes the impedance and will affect the volume of those speakers but I don't mind that. I want to add a powered subwoofer to the factory system of a 2005 Lexus RX330. Thanks!
Does wire guage matter for speakers when using an loc? I have 4 6.5in speakers 250w rms 1000w max that ill be installing into the doors. Im running 18awg speed wire from speaker harness to loc. Do I need to run seperate thicker wires from each speaker or will 18awg be fine?
So I already have a amp and sub connected in my car with a cheap plug and play LOC but I wanted to know if I get something like the LC2i pro would I be able to add another amp for my door speakers ?
That’s exactly what I wanna do did it work?
I am installing an LOC in my Yukon and I am confused about how to set the output levels of the LOC. I know that the gain on an amp is supposed to be set to the same level of the RCA preamp output voltage, but an LOC effectively creates its own RCA output from speaker levels, and not all head units have the same output levels. I am using an aftermarket pioneer CD player(from 2005, lol) which has 4 volt RCA outputs, all being used currently, and am adding the LOC to the rear speaker outputs of the CD player to gain an additional subwoofer output. I am doing so because I am assuming that if I were to use Y adapters to split the sub output RCAs to 2 amps, it would effectively cut the output voltage the amps would see from 4 volts with one amp to 2 volts each with 2 amps. If that is not the case and amps see 4 volts regardless of splitting the signal, I would not need the LOC after all. Please advise.
Do you need a LOC for a aftermarket pioneer radio and dual enclosure subs with a 1200 watt amp? This is my first time. I’m just trying to make sure I have all I need for my ram 1500 classic warlock
Can you run a 2 channel amp and mono amp off of one lc2i pro? Or only one? Thanks!
@@colinsissons8493 yes I installed this myself using kicker cxa400.1 and lc2i pro and it sounds amazing
So i just want to double check If I have a sub that came with my car like stock. In the frame Do I need the converter. Can't I just use the wires that go to that sub since its all ready low signal. To go to my amp for my big sub. Or will I still need the converter
Was wondering do you have to use both left n right speaker wire or can we use just the left only? Would it still work ? Or we need use both left n right?
I need to know this to. I have a factory premium navigation radio that I'd like to just keep since it sounds ok and has a factory subwoofer that I'm hoping will sou d good with a added dual 10in sub box wired into the system. But it's a single 2ohm subwoofer so I don't know if I should use the rear deck speaker leads or he sub wire to just the one input on the loc.
If im looking to install two amps. 1st to power my four component speakers (2 channel is what i already have) and a 2nd for a single sub would i need 2 LOCs?
Stupid question i suppose, but i bought an 80s vehicle and a buddy if mine suggested an LOC to remove the necessity to hook the 12v hookup to my battery so i dont have to go through the firewall. Is this a true statement for an LOC?
The D-4.800 has high level inputs. Is there any real benefit of adding an LOC?
All the AudioControl amps essentially have a LOC built in. The D-4.800 shown in the video is just for illustrative purposes.
Hi, on prower connection, can you connect to the same Amplifier prower together ?
What typ of loc would you recommend if using a 5 channel amplifier and wanted to retain the fader, left and right control? Great video!
A blue one 😆 jk idk
Hi, Can I connect RCA input and high input to LC1i at the same time?
Can i use this to get my factory sub signal and also get full range signal and if so which side do I put the sub signal and full signal? I would be using a mono block amp for sub signal and 4 channel amp for front and rear speakers. Also would I just splice into the front and rear speaker wires to run them to the 4 channel amp? So I would end up with 4 sets of spliced speaker wires
Do i need an aditional device if i use the lc7i audio control LOC with a 5 way amplifier to run a full system with 3 ways speakers in the front, coax in the rear and a subwoofer
Will this work on a mono block amp if I just wanted to add subs
So I have a cassette stereo from the 90s and it has rca outs for the rear speakers, could I just get Y adapters and connect those to a 4 channel amp or should i do this instead
Love all the videos that you produce, thank your! If I may make a suggestion, please try to minimize the hand gestures. Respectfully, a little bit of it good but if used all the time, it becomes a distruction to what already is a great video. It feels like they are translating what is being said. Thanks again!
Could I conect it to the trunk speakers on a 2012 chrysler 300
Do you need to have both left and right speakers tapped into, or can it run off one?
Both.
I have the recoil loc and when I aye it it clips and distorts the sound wat is going wrong
@@Stifodne I ran off one side and it sounds great
@@danielpeterson1548 you need to turn gain on amp down and get a better LOC
I have an infiniti fx35, my car has two bose amplifier, one for mids high and other for subwoofer. Do I need 2 loc? The mid high line doesn't have any bass
Hello. Can you help me? I have active subwoofer alpine SWE-815 but I want to install adapter low high because I don't have rca out in my factory Radio. Can I do this? Thanks
Hi! Do I have to keep the factory amp or remove it?
Keep factory amp.
So what do you need a line output converter for a vehicle that already has a factory subwoofer? Or can I just splice and input those to my aftermarket amp?
Hi , I got a question. A Mazda 3 Bose audio system which has a 9 speakers how many channels LOC should pick up while a subwoofer ( with built in amplifier).
Hello. The rear speaker on my Toyota 2020. Have so low voltage from factory headunit. And low bass.
Ist posible to Rise voltage Whit a loc. And get more volyme and bass. Or use only front Chanel and amplify to 4ch amp? And lose fade funktion?
Great video! Getting ready to install a Audiocontrol Lc2i Pro and a 100watt powered 10" Bazooka tube subwoofer in my 2015 Cadillac CTS. Great information here. Definitely gonna subscribe.
Do you have to run from the head unit or can you run off the back speakers 6x9 speaker leads?
So if I understand this correctly, to remedy the roll off we use the threshold knob but this only affects the same music type it was tested on right? Some songs have stronger bass that will trigger it earlier in my experience
In which case you would simply reduce the bass with an attached ACR knob.
@@CarAudioFabrication I've also read from someone that you can maximize the threshold and turn down the amp gain but I haven't tried that yet.
@@tapig3322using modern hu's for music usually sucks if there is a bass hpf on the outputs, best approach is getting an amp with a dsp or a dsp that has at least 2ch's with summing ability and a basic cheap loc to get the navigation sounds vice versa from the hu then sum those navigation and other hu sounds in -12db and use the other source of the dsp or an dsp'ed amp to stream music directly from your phone or a dac/player. bringing the bass back with the whatever algorithm these "bass bringer's" may give off unintended signals and simply act stupid, also although controlling the bass with a knob for each song is kinda ok its still not practical, especially if you want songs to play as the engineer intended.
With the lc2i pro I can connect two amps? 4channel and sub amp with the RCAs input?
Where does one find the polarity testing tool you mentioned?
So, if you have an aftermarket head unit, you dont need a line output converter at all?
09 Honda Accord EX-L without Navigation has center sub. Can I just tap in those to wires to the left speaker input off the factory wires? Does have a factory amp, so there should be no issue going right off those 2 wires. Going to check voltage and all that right now with multimeter and SMD Test CD. I believe that it should be fairly easy give it already has factory sub, No?
I have a 8 dolla rca converter. Is that OK? I have a f15 bmw x5. Hi fi audio. With its own amp.
Thank you. I’ve been looking for how to turn my amp off with it and your the only video to help
How'd you change the 2 channel converter to power 1 subwoofer?
@@MrProfessional777 you can hook up just one channel to a 2 channel amp it will still work fine
@@sleepy35th
Thank you.
I wanna run a 4channel for door speakers and a mono block for subwoofer. Do I get a lc7i? Or what do you suggest.
Hi, How does LC1i compare with Helix AAC.3HP line converter? Any clear advantage?
Is it possible to use the factory subwoofer wires to the LOC? I was hoping to replace the stock sub for an aftermarket amp/sub. I would only have one set of wires to connect to the LOC, so wasnt sure if that would be an issue.
Need to do a video on the LCQ-1 its a cost effective option
Can this be used with a vintage FM AM nob radio ?
So when you using dsp and setting crossovers on it for speakers, would you set the amp Hz levels and gains to medium or low? Because nornally an amp has hz and gain adjustments available
So you connect one rear speaker and one front speaker to the imput
I remember when i could just wired everything to my head unit and be on my way now that i have a newer car i have to figure how to get factory signals ugh. Thanks mazda for doing bose systems makes things difficult
I installed an LC7i in my range rover which has the meridian surround system and setting up the accubass correctly is a nightmare. Without an RTA it's pretty much impossible.
If I tap into rear speakers to get a signal for a subwoofer amp, how do I maintain a signal to the factory speakers from the point at which I connect the LOC?
I plan on doing the same thing. From what I’ve read it shouldn’t effect the rear door speakers but I haven’t tried it
You just splice= (cut back the speaker wire shielding, twist a new wire around the speaker wire, then soldier, and or use electrical tape around exposed wires), do this to both rear speakers, and run the spliced in new wires to the line out converter.
Can you tap into the speakers you are hooking the line out converter to or do you have to completely unplug those speakers for the converter??
You can tap and not have to unplug those tapped speakers, it’s fine
I have a couple of questions Mark , by using the right and left channel from the rear speakers do you piggy back off the speakers or lose the speakers in place of the amplifier? I ask due to signal degrading and it's effectively changing the ohm's? Obviously losing the speakers to fit an amp for a sub is not ideal would a 4 channel be best as to run the rears off 2 channels then bridge the others for the sub? Cheers
Either or
Remove the rear speakers to get more bass inside through those holes and use those speakers lines straight to the lci2 pro directly.
You don’t loose the power to the speakers. I’ve installed a few active subwoofers in the past just by talking the signal from the speakers, no problems at all in two different vehicles with factory unit.
@@eduardosanchez7827 looking to do this in my f150 instead of pulling my stock head unit apart. Do I need to tap on from left and right rear door speakers or can I just tap in from one? Thanks
@@ratherbeboyz4485 you have to tap both speakers so you get a “full signal”. I just did this in my SUV last month. I installed a kicker amplified under seat subwoofer
Hello! I have myself a 2 door VW Mk5 Golf so I'm tapping into the rear 2 woofers(speakers) for signal for the Subwoofer AMP and I have a question... for the REMOTE IN where's best to actually get it from? Since I'm doing pretty much everything in the back of the car, even the battery... I wouldn't really want to go to the headunit with a wire for it. I have the regular LC2i. Thank you in advance!
I tapped into my center console cigarette lighter positive to get mine. Fuseboxes also work just make sure that whatever positive you're using is off when the car is off. Using a source that is active even with car off/key out will work to turn the amp on but will obviously keep the amp running until the battery voltage goes below minimum voltage for amp. Also, make sure that the positive has enough voltage for your needs...typically, you'll have enough power to turn on 1or 2 amps/devices via remote in using a 12 v positive.
I have been looking at the LC8i for a friend who wants to upgrade his Bose system. The benefit with it is that that there is an AUX in feature which is another thing he is looking for. A 2-in-1 solution.
Looking to install a sub and 2 speakers to the stock radio. Can I use the LC Pro to control all 3? Do you still need to run power to the amplifier separately or just off the LOC?
A power amplifier WILL NEED ITS OWN POWER AND GROUNDS, or fire may happen!?
But can you splice the wires so you can feed both the speaker and the converter.. or for example, if you just want to add subs do you have to sacrifice two speakers because you can not splice ?
Yes, you can but I recommend removing the rear speakers so you get more bass I side through those 2 holes and upgrade your door speakers.
Hi, I love your content and I’m about to start two project cars. For me it’s going to be the whole deal (DSP, two amps, etc). For my wife’s car I was wondering about adding a small kenwood active subwoofer, it already comes with the speaker signal input, would you recommend using the AudioControl LC2 Pro to feed the sub instead of going straight from the speaker wires? I mean, it’s a powered sunflower from a reputable brand. Thanks in advance
Super helpful 👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽
Question if I bought the epicenter micro do I also need to purchase a lc2i pro to deal with the stock audio roll off or can epicenter micro deal with both the roll off and bass enhancement?
The Epicenter micro, with the Bass restoration, can compensate for bass roll off, and even adds bass that was not there by sampling freq. above the cutoff of Bass notes. Also has a 2 into 1 Bass knob, outer Knob is for Amount of Bass Restoration, inner Knob is for Total Subwoofer Volume= Awesome, plus its an active line out converter!
I have a 2020 Corolla with JBL package (garbage). I’m using the Audio Control LC1i to connect an aftermarket subwoofer. Question: I have to turn up the gain fully clockwise to achieve a max voltage output of 3.9 volts (on LOC). Any ideas why I can not achieve more voltage? I’m definitely doing something wrong as I want to put 5 volts into my aftermarket mono amp (Kenwood).
Are you using both left and right speaker wires, going into the high level inputs? If not, that is why. Also, you can just splice into the wires from both speakers, and use them aswell, just use electrical tape to cover the exposed wire.
If i need to do subwoofer speaker input, how should i connect there if there is +\- L and +\- R ? Because subwoofer come 2 wires only for signal
It doesn’t matter if you choose left or right and only have those two connected, as long as you have atleast one +\-, you’re good since subs play low frequency pretty much at all times during a song
I’m planning to add a sub to my 2022 Silverado non Bose system. I’d like to use the epicenter micro for the high level. Will a LC2i Pro still be needed for accubass
This is a great question! The technical/most expensive answer is yes, they= Ac would recommend both. But do you REALLY need both= i dont really think so, here is why? The Epicenter micro has Bass restoration built in= it takes a sample of the full range freq. responce, and adds in freq. that either are not present, or are very weak, and increases the output by the amount you choose with included ACR4 (2) into 1 Bass Knob.( inner Knob= Total subwoofer Volume control, and the outer Knob= Amount of Bass Restoration you want to add!). Plus the micro is the only Epicenter with A Pfm you can switch off! Pfm on starts limiting Bass output @ 25Hz, and with Pfm set to off= 10Hz!
@@evilinside5984if the "bass restoration" works exactly this way, that means that it may generate completly wrong frequencies and warp the amplitude/decay and delay the frequencies in an unwanted way.
Hey Mark...I Have A Question...I Have The LCQ-1 And The Maximized Light Is Always On...I've Tried A Different Ground From What The Guys From Audio Control Told Me To Do...But Still Not Good...What Are My Options Of What It Can It Be...Any Help Will Do....Thank You In Advance
Are you sure the accubass threshold and level gains are set to minimum to start off with.
@@B15SDMDESIGNS Yes Everything Was Down All The Way...And Still Light On..But When I Turn Radio On The Ppwer Light Turns On And Maximized Light Turns Off...Once I Turn It All Off The Maximized Light Turns Back On
Looking for help I just put a lci with just the subwoofer output ….. but my car is a g8 it’s had two factory subwoofers in back desk …. So do I need to run a neg and pos wire from both factory subwoofers to the lci or just one factory subwoofer ??? So it’s like your setup on the table but u only have one subwoofer output on the table my car has two subwoofers
Did you figure it out?
Super helpful information, helped me get the right gear that I needed for my truck. Thank you. Was looking at the epicenter to draw signal from my factory radio to my sub amp. Is that an active LOC as well?
Yes, they are active. I recommend the Epicenter micro, because its the only epicenter that you can turn off their Pfm= blocks low freq. ( most AC products with the Pfm is factory set to start cutting bass @ 33Hz, the micros Pfm, when set to on= 25Hz, but with the Pfm switch set to off=10Hz before it cuts bass output), and comes with a 2 in 1, ACR4 bass knob= inner knob controls total Bass volume, and the outer knob controls the amount of Bass restoration you want to add!
I use a DQ61 and I get an echo on the rear channel when I added a second mid and high amplifier for the back doors. Any ideas? There was no echo when I used a 4 channel amp using front and rear rca’s from the DQ61. Also when I use the pass through the front amp to the rear amp there is no echo. Only when I use the rear channel separate on the dq61 to a separate amplifier. Thanx.
Because there is delay somewhere in the signal chain. Try using the same signal for front and rear. You will lose fade capability but everything will at least be in time. Or go all out and get a DSP so you can time correct all speakers.
most amps have high level inputs though?
Few have all the features needed to properly integrate with today's new vehicles.
I recently installed a plug and play amp for the car speakers and now my sub amp signal is not as clean with the lc2i. I can’t get it right. What could be the issue?
What do you mean= plug n play amp? How DID you have your Lc2i hooked up, prior to your "plug n play amp? We have to know what you changed from before, to after, to know what to look for.
@@evilinside5984 so it’s a VW. Focal makes plug and play door speakers and a “plug and play” amp focal impluse 4.320. My sub amp is separate but connected to the headunit for speaker signal. After installing the focal amp for the speakers, my sub does not sound as clean and the signal is much different
@@Smallyardguy When you say head unit, is there a separate factory speaker wire output, or is that the same speaker wire, connected to the now powered, plug, and play, speaker amp combo? If its not separate, your new amplifier, may exceed the input voltage, that the Audio Control LOC, can handle, causing your distortion/unclean sound?
What are the small connections on the wires plugged into the loc called?
Ferrules?
@@FreeStyle786 yes thank you!
@@joshuaguy2715 np