Hearthstone has the “colossal” keyword, they also have “dread lords” and characters from “the maw” but blizzard is too stupid to put these concepts together to create the perfect card.
Tbf the reason alchemy sucks is because you don't get Wildcards back when cards get nerfed, and the Arena balance team is way worse at keeping nerfed cards and decks playable after changes, so when a card gets nerfed in alchemy because of standard you end up losing an entire historic deck full of rares you can't even disenchant
Some are outdated, they fixed those problems. OP cards get nerfed really quickly and cards rarely get completely annihilated anymore. The deckbuilding one is subjective since it ALSO opens up design space by limiting the use of cards.
"If you feel the jaws bite, run. If you hear his claws catch, concede. If you start seeing the blue mist around your arena and 80 battlecries fill your screen, its too late."
Reason 1 is precisely why I will always defend the existence of lands in MtG, no matter how many times I lose to mana screw/flood, no matter how many people say "yeah MtG is a great game but lands kinda suck". Lands are the necessary evil that gives life to the MtG color pie, making every single combination of colors possible.
Mixable colors are great but how lands are implemented in mtg sucks especially compared to more modern games. Duel masters every card is a resource, a separate deck for mana to pull from in force of will, and hell Digimons evolution requirements feel better then how mtg balances mixing colors. Probably why wizards made those creatures that can be lands. They should honestly make more of those imo. But hey I'm not attached to the land system of magic by any means so maybe I'm not seeing what others see is so great about it.
@@freshtheend4903 that's because a lot of people lack the capacity of resource management. The idea of land is very simple. You have to think of how to efficiently use your resources. Yes, you run the risk of drought and flood. (Being mana screwed and too much mana.) And learning how to build a deck helps mitigate those problems. Literally every other card game has pretty much no card resource that actually makes sense. Mtg is a pretty straightforward game through and through. Anyone that doesn't like the mana system, just wants to put down random cards with no cost whatsoever. That's exactly like playing Pokemon without energy cards.
The worst part for me is that most digital card games just replace the variance from lands with variance from various RNG effects, which I find even more annoying than getting bad land draws.
@@christiandean1099 I’m sorry, but you sound ignorant to the resource systems in other games. While I have no issue with mtgs lands, It’s not my favorite resource system. I recommend you look into other card games because it’s not as straightforward as you think. Pokémon, digimon, and even duel masters have resource systems where your choices do matter; in gameplay and deck building.
I've been a long-time hearthstone player for a few reasons: it's (in most metas) more tempo focused as a 4/4 can't just completely shut out several 3/3s, there are some nice digital-only mechanics such as discover, and there's 0 chance of mana flood/screw. There are absolutely upsides to MTG - notably the wonderful commander format - and as such I play both games, but I will generally pick hearthstone over mtga personally.
I did the switch last summer from Hearthstone to MTG and haven't looked back since. My problem was i couldn't crack under 1500 in legend to get the 11x star bonus, been very close many times (1600,1550, etc...). Its just so frustrating to spend many hours on the game grinding ladder, doing it for almost 2 years then never hitting it cuz time decay bumped my rating up or i go on a fat losing streak towards the end and cant recover. Now I'm just a filthy casual playing commander and I love it.
My jaws that bite! My claws that catch! My jaws! My jaws! My jaws! My My j- My j- My j- My j- My j-... That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch!
i can see that it has been a while since you played considering we got a 10th class 2 years ago and are aout to receive our 11th. how slow cards get balanced has also been adressed in the last few years. but i understand leaving during shudderwocks time in standard
That's exactly when I left. Also because everybody had infinite value from card generation, which made resources a non concept. Too polarized between aggro and infinite value control
Yeah, I tried Hearthstone and didn't get into it, but I really appreciate that they sat down and went "what can we do well in a digital format?" instead of just trying to be knockoff MtG.
🤣 as an ex hearthstone player that was looking for a home MTGA have gave it to me... After I tried LoR, Gwent, Master Duel, Duel Links, Elderscrolls legends and Shadowverse.
It's truly ridiculous that Blizzard didn't realize the infinite Shudderwock combo, IE the reason you play the card, literally broke them game and skipped your opponent's turn.
Welll after the whole 30th anniversary debacle with magic people arent to happy with the game and wizards of the Coast at the moment, so some would say that magic is not really good right now but I'm not one of those people Per say but wizards is making alot of bad decisions business wise but I will still play the game cause I like it and my deck is pretty expensive I just put survival of the fittest in my meren edh deck if that gives and insight on how much money is in my deck
Witchwood killed the game for me. Sure, Shudderwock, but those legendaries that upgrade your Hero power *just for existing in your deck* just made the ladder unbearable.
At least those required you to build your deck a certain way. Now there’s a card that gives you an extra 5 legendary minions and one that increases your max health and deck limit by 10 for existing in your deck with no restrictions whatsoever.
@@Samagachi wait - baku, genn and renathal all DO have deckbuilding restrictions that are featured on companions, and prince malchezaar (who was actually around first) has never seen serious constructed play
I would play mtg but last time I tried I almost fall to sleep, In hearthstone pretty colors go phew phew and character go "wow, LOOK AT ME", so it manage to get my short attention spam like the ADHD person I'm with all that.
If WotC would stop making rare lands basically a must for all meta decks, Magic would actually be a game I could recommend. (Not that I would recommend Hearthstone).
I quit playing when they banned all the fun cards but let ODD Paladin exist for the longest time. Shudderwock wasn't a problem and anyone who disagrees is wrong. It took forever to set up in a game and countered control decks so they thought a deck that was at it's absolute best B Tier was the problem when ODD Pally had a 60% WR for the entire meta and than they also allowed The DK Hero Warlock and Cube Druid to exist forever and did nothing.
You forgot to mention players are leaving mtg because of the 1000 proxy fake cards pack they sold haha 😅 and other reasons. I like both games but I agree about the deck restrictions sucking
This video feels like it was made 2 years ago, i used to be a hearthstone player and all of the cards you're showing haven't been on player's radars in years lol
i have a tinfoil hat theory that the devs don't nerf the broken shit because they enjoy playing it. the power creep has gone way too far and after playing runeterra for a bit ive realized how restricting hearthstone is and at the same time allows so much freedom it just leads to completely broken builds. and nowadays thats all you see or the waves of bots that is yet another problem they dont deal with. lately all the news surrounding the game has been pretty negative. sucks to see man
but mtg doesent have murlocs. also i need rng to play mtg dont i? i dont have that....i have a negative 3567 luck stat meaning if my entire deck is lands i still wont draw any lands
I unironically re-downloaded the game the other day after ~3 years without playing it, and now it has like four or five different games within the game, and all of them are more entertaining to play than the main game of, you know, Hearthstone. And looking into it, it seems it's a quite popular opinion too, the game is literally better if you don't play the game.
Yes BUT you came in just when physical MTG is dying because of bad business decisions. I don't know if MTG is the answer nowadays. I'd say Gwent but they'll stop the content updates in 2024, so Gwent is dying next year too I guess :( There's only pokémon cards left
The reason I and more people should quit ALL Blizzard games is because they're an abusive company that kills off its workers each other in favor of feeding billions of dollars to their executive's gaping maws.
Hearthstone has the “colossal” keyword, they also have “dread lords” and characters from “the maw” but blizzard is too stupid to put these concepts together to create the perfect card.
NO!. Wrong answer the correct aswer is Colossal Dreadmaw
They already blessed us with the almighty Oger. It’s basically Dreadmaw.
@@DrewskiTheLegend Infact, Oger wins
"There are only nine classes."
*demon hunter has entered the chat*
Death Knight has entered the chat
give it a few years and monk will enter the chat too
demon hunter is a great band
@@skylex157 when royal champion
I love the fact most of these make perfect sense and also that rebalancing/changing cards is actually something everybody hates in MTGA
Tbf the reason alchemy sucks is because you don't get Wildcards back when cards get nerfed, and the Arena balance team is way worse at keeping nerfed cards and decks playable after changes, so when a card gets nerfed in alchemy because of standard you end up losing an entire historic deck full of rares you can't even disenchant
@@macmusial3644 im just fucking pissed my card deck got nerfed, i even came up with it myself
People also hate Alchemy because it further separates Arena from paper.
I was expecting a parody video, but all these points are on point
Some are outdated, they fixed those problems. OP cards get nerfed really quickly and cards rarely get completely annihilated anymore. The deckbuilding one is subjective since it ALSO opens up design space by limiting the use of cards.
He sure has PowerPoints hahahaaaa
Meanwhile, Magic the Gathering: _on fire_
Except point 2, because warrior was already dead at that point.
"My jaws that bite, my claws that catch!"
"My jaws that bite, my claws- My jaws that bite, my claws that catch!"
The sounds of me leaving Hearthstone
You never faced the might of the seas?
FeeBlE pRaWn
can't believe Noah put out a 100% serious video for once
That IGN joke was very good, great job Noah
As a former hearthstone player and current magic player, this is very accurate.
"If you feel the jaws bite, run. If you hear his claws catch, concede. If you start seeing the blue mist around your arena and 80 battlecries fill your screen, its too late."
Reason 1 is precisely why I will always defend the existence of lands in MtG, no matter how many times I lose to mana screw/flood, no matter how many people say "yeah MtG is a great game but lands kinda suck". Lands are the necessary evil that gives life to the MtG color pie, making every single combination of colors possible.
Mixable colors are great but how lands are implemented in mtg sucks especially compared to more modern games. Duel masters every card is a resource, a separate deck for mana to pull from in force of will, and hell Digimons evolution requirements feel better then how mtg balances mixing colors.
Probably why wizards made those creatures that can be lands. They should honestly make more of those imo.
But hey I'm not attached to the land system of magic by any means so maybe I'm not seeing what others see is so great about it.
@@freshtheend4903 that's because a lot of people lack the capacity of resource management. The idea of land is very simple. You have to think of how to efficiently use your resources. Yes, you run the risk of drought and flood. (Being mana screwed and too much mana.) And learning how to build a deck helps mitigate those problems. Literally every other card game has pretty much no card resource that actually makes sense. Mtg is a pretty straightforward game through and through. Anyone that doesn't like the mana system, just wants to put down random cards with no cost whatsoever. That's exactly like playing Pokemon without energy cards.
The worst part for me is that most digital card games just replace the variance from lands with variance from various RNG effects, which I find even more annoying than getting bad land draws.
@@christiandean1099 I’m sorry, but you sound ignorant to the resource systems in other games. While I have no issue with mtgs lands, It’s not my favorite resource system. I recommend you look into other card games because it’s not as straightforward as you think.
Pokémon, digimon, and even duel masters have resource systems where your choices do matter; in gameplay and deck building.
Its not "necessary", go play Faeria it has land without mana screw
I've been a long-time hearthstone player for a few reasons: it's (in most metas) more tempo focused as a 4/4 can't just completely shut out several 3/3s, there are some nice digital-only mechanics such as discover, and there's 0 chance of mana flood/screw. There are absolutely upsides to MTG - notably the wonderful commander format - and as such I play both games, but I will generally pick hearthstone over mtga personally.
hell yeah!
why would you even want to combine armor warrior with a spellslinger
it's not like anybody plays izzet graveyard
Just start playing Flesh and Blood. Then you can be Flesh and Noah, or Noah and Blood, or Flesh Noah Blood?
What about Noah & Noah?
@@olivermeloche2042 I think you're onto something there
I did the switch last summer from Hearthstone to MTG and haven't looked back since. My problem was i couldn't crack under 1500 in legend to get the 11x star bonus, been very close many times (1600,1550, etc...). Its just so frustrating to spend many hours on the game grinding ladder, doing it for almost 2 years then never hitting it cuz time decay bumped my rating up or i go on a fat losing streak towards the end and cant recover. Now I'm just a filthy casual playing commander and I love it.
hurtstone
Magic the Noah's face when he learns out to move objects in a project without exiting presentation mode
You can always proxy whatever magic card you want. Bit hard to proxy a hearthstone deck innit?
No way he said that warsong commander is a "fun card" 💀
My jaws that bite! My claws that catch! My jaws! My jaws! My jaws! My My j- My j- My j- My j- My j-... That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch! That catch!
in HS you never run out of fuel
almost every card in HS has too much value its ridiculous
have you heard about our lord and savior Legends of Runeterra?
finally i found a comment about the best cardgame
We wanted a fun chess variant with some poker elements and they made it a poker variant and removed most of the chess like gameplay.
Great video as always Noah
I love playing both of these games and enjoying my time playing dumb decks on Hearthstone and playing sophisticated decks in Magic.
i can see that it has been a while since you played considering we got a 10th class 2 years ago and are aout to receive our 11th. how slow cards get balanced has also been adressed in the last few years. but i understand leaving during shudderwocks time in standard
That's exactly when I left. Also because everybody had infinite value from card generation, which made resources a non concept. Too polarized between aggro and infinite value control
I still play both of them. Hearthstone has more flaws, but mechanics like discover really make use of its digital form.
MTGA does this with its Alchemy format.
@@Timorio I'd pick hearthstone over mtga alchemy any day personally, but personal preference for sure
Yeah, I tried Hearthstone and didn't get into it, but I really appreciate that they sat down and went "what can we do well in a digital format?" instead of just trying to be knockoff MtG.
Hearthstone doesn't let you miss land drops, 0/10 no skill game
Video number 3 of asking for a the stone brain deck tech
Love it, we should hang out and talk about all the stuff we hate while taking shot, not a request
omg we're the same, I started with Hearthstone and moved to MTG aswell
😲
Its funny how the set and rotation that he put in the video are from the time that I indeed quit Hearthstone and got interested in MTG
Flawless arguments.
Yeah this is kinda accurate
What is your thought on Legends of Runeterra?
🤣 as an ex hearthstone player that was looking for a home MTGA have gave it to me... After I tried LoR, Gwent, Master Duel, Duel Links, Elderscrolls legends and Shadowverse.
I would but my Challenger Decks have no Deck Code :(
The ending is to funny holy shit
It's so funny these are unironically some of the reasons why I stopped playing.
my jaws that BITE!!
"literally 0% of my viewers are subscribers" caught me off guard XD
I think your statistics are off. I personally subscribed last week. I did unsubscribe just now though so maybe you can see the future...
It’s a joke
@@WillEnj0y I know. Mine was as well. May you never need to mulligan again.
hearthstone is the only card game I've ever had a turn 1 win and it was in ranked standard with gibberling token druid.
another banger video.
I choose to not play either, any tcg that's new or is rarley spoken of gets my attention.
0:56 😂😂😂
At least you can dust old cards in HS to at least make a deck to grind with, mtga doesn't allow u to dust ur old cards
I love magic the gathering too, playing Transformers vs Warhammer was nuts, waiting for the Spiderman deck to come out soon
It's truly ridiculous that Blizzard didn't realize the infinite Shudderwock combo, IE the reason you play the card, literally broke them game and skipped your opponent's turn.
It is online f2p model, make the old stuff worse when you release new stuff, so it sells.
the zero percent subscriber thing is too good
Welll after the whole 30th anniversary debacle with magic people arent to happy with the game and wizards of the Coast at the moment, so some would say that magic is not really good right now but I'm not one of those people Per say but wizards is making alot of bad decisions business wise but I will still play the game cause I like it and my deck is pretty expensive I just put survival of the fittest in my meren edh deck if that gives and insight on how much money is in my deck
Witchwood killed the game for me. Sure, Shudderwock, but those legendaries that upgrade your Hero power *just for existing in your deck* just made the ladder unbearable.
Companions...
At least those required you to build your deck a certain way. Now there’s a card that gives you an extra 5 legendary minions and one that increases your max health and deck limit by 10 for existing in your deck with no restrictions whatsoever.
@@Samagachi wait - baku, genn and renathal all DO have deckbuilding restrictions that are featured on companions, and prince malchezaar (who was actually around first) has never seen serious constructed play
Getting less surprised over time at companies being horrible
Sadly, almost every company is horrible or will become horrible. Some just get caught harder.
I would play mtg but last time I tried I almost fall to sleep, In hearthstone pretty colors go phew phew and character go "wow, LOOK AT ME", so it manage to get my short attention spam like the ADHD person I'm with all that.
There are now 11 classes
Power creep pushed me away from the game, and it’s so rng now
I didn't learn my lesson and I still threw my money at a greedy company.
If WotC would stop making rare lands basically a must for all meta decks, Magic would actually be a game I could recommend. (Not that I would recommend Hearthstone).
I quit playing when they banned all the fun cards but let ODD Paladin exist for the longest time. Shudderwock wasn't a problem and anyone who disagrees is wrong. It took forever to set up in a game and countered control decks so they thought a deck that was at it's absolute best B Tier was the problem when ODD Pally had a 60% WR for the entire meta and than they also allowed The DK Hero Warlock and Cube Druid to exist forever and did nothing.
11 classes now 15 in 2032
theres 10 classes now actually.
Soon to be 11
magic is fun and balance. i don't even recognize yugioh anymore. i tried poker and lost some money.
yeah magic is the best.
You forgot to mention players are leaving mtg because of the 1000 proxy fake cards pack they sold haha 😅 and other reasons. I like both games but I agree about the deck restrictions sucking
Also wotc has never made some questionable moves as a company and I mean never
Post vid of push-ups
Oko existed in MTG, so balance does not exist in MTG.
Long ago, the five colors lived together in harmony
true
Ive just installed hearthstone, im uninstalling.
bad video: criticism is actually valid.
Idk if homie is trolling or serious 😳
I'll reSubscribe when -87% of people are not subscribed. Though I will say you make a good point about hearthstone. But battlegrounds is fun.
Ah, a fight count me in? everyone get in here.
Grim patron and wallet warrior were fun as fuck, but blizzard shit the bed and now so has magic.
This video feels like it was made 2 years ago, i used to be a hearthstone player and all of the cards you're showing haven't been on player's radars in years lol
I don’t agree because the points he raised have been relevant since 2015 until today. Especially the first point.
If literally 0% of viewers are subscribed then wouldn't I stop watching the videos of I subscribed?
pushup?
Mtg cards will soon be mainline currency.
I unsubscribed so that I would be among the 100%. Can’t be left behind yo
As someone who formerly played the Shutter-Sham deck, I deserve all scrutiny for my sins.
Now i only have one question: Why not Yugioh?
Bro..wanna play some MTG Arena? Send me your name and little hashtag thingy....thats the worst part about mtg arena...I can't add friends xD
I can't find the subscribe button
Yeah, pay 1k dollars for proxies
i have a tinfoil hat theory that the devs don't nerf the broken shit because they enjoy playing it. the power creep has gone way too far and after playing runeterra for a bit ive realized how restricting hearthstone is and at the same time allows so much freedom it just leads to completely broken builds. and nowadays thats all you see or the waves of bots that is yet another problem they dont deal with. lately all the news surrounding the game has been pretty negative. sucks to see man
but mtg doesent have murlocs. also i need rng to play mtg dont i? i dont have that....i have a negative 3567 luck stat meaning if my entire deck is lands i still wont draw any lands
most based to the point blizzard hate video ive seen
Blizzard does suck
Mtg is cool.
Quick. We need people to sub to him. 100% not subbed is not good (lol)
Am I autistic? Why can’t I tell if this guy is being sarcastic or not? 😂😂😂
You mean you don’t like playing against pirate warrior for the millionth time in a row?
I unironically re-downloaded the game the other day after ~3 years without playing it, and now it has like four or five different games within the game, and all of them are more entertaining to play than the main game of, you know, Hearthstone.
And looking into it, it seems it's a quite popular opinion too, the game is literally better if you don't play the game.
Blizzard is so bad that even theyre not even good at sexual harassment
Start duel of champions by ubisoft
i play hearthstone because yogg giveth
Yes BUT you came in just when physical MTG is dying because of bad business decisions. I don't know if MTG is the answer nowadays. I'd say Gwent but they'll stop the content updates in 2024, so Gwent is dying next year too I guess :(
There's only pokémon cards left
Beta Gwent was perfect (in a bad way). Sad to hear it's dying.
Randomstone
Stop drinking alcohol, start heroin!
The reason I and more people should quit ALL Blizzard games is because they're an abusive company that kills off its workers each other in favor of feeding billions of dollars to their executive's gaping maws.
theres 11 classes noah
How do people not know how to pronounce hearth?
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