Venezianico is an elegant time piece at a high end price point for those customers that ( do not ) compromise with reservation or hesitation in paying up.. Thank you for the vast in depth reviews. You are going forward full throttle..!! 👍
Many thanks . Astonishing watches and beautiful unbiased, knowledgeable revew. Thanks again. Venezianico are doing great . Keep reviewing them. They are booming all over
It's blacker than black! Wait until you see it in person...the camera/video (at least mine!) doesn't even begin to showcase how much of a black hole this is when you peer into it! Would love to hear your thoughts on the watch after you've had it a couple of weeks...hope to see you back here!
On the money about those bracelet screws. Had to battle them on my Marathon bracelet. Nightmare. Stunning watch in blue. Definitely the blue on the bracelet for me. Great review. Thanks for sharing.
Yeah, I totally agree, those screws are hard to manage! Since it arrives on the bracelet, if you add on, I wonder if they never intended for us to do swaps? But if I have a strap AND a bracelet, I'm going to want to experience the watch on both!
I'm sure there are a lot of enthusiasts in your camp. I enjoy seeing movement on the dial...especially if it's a 4Hz beat rate or higher! I think this is more about the minimalistic design element than aesthetics of omitting a seconds hand. They have other 10mm watches with seconds hands. I applaud their choice to seek thinness with an automatic watch, even if it doesn't alienate a good portion of the market. We have SO many choices. Somebody is absolutely loving this, equal to the amount you're disagreeing with it. And that's great on both fronts!
The Geneva stripes are beautiful! You can find me twirling my wrist in the sun to make the dial come alive! Yeah, bummer about the screw system. I pointed out so that hopefully others will keep their watch unscathed by just keeping on their strap/bracelet of choice. It's tough, though, because both options look phenomenal!
@@felo6035 Yup, leave it to the pros! You just made me realize that I didn't mention that the LINKS on this bracelet are single sided screws, so no problem sizing on your own. But the actual strap or bracelet to the watch head...I recommend leaving on whichever you prefer!
@felo6035 Yeah, I made a pinned comment on that. I forgot because it fit me perfectly without removing any links, if I remember correctly! It's hard to keep all these watches straight! Well, YOU know...I know you've got a "few" watches! 😂
Is it really 8.95mm including crystal? (EDIT: I see it actually is. Well done to these guys) I have several "affordable" integrated watches like this that are advertised as "under 9mm" thick, but two of them are actually 9.3 when the crystal is included. Only the Makydo is actually 9.0mm thick and cost less than $200. with central seconds and a date complication. Another two I have are considerably thinner but not really comparable as you'd have to add a couple of zeros to the price. I have to say, though, Venezianico, despite some design flaws in utility, have really knocked it out of the park when it comes to outright classyness in these designs.
Yes. See 1:29 where I describe just that and show you the caliper reading. Great thinness for an automatic and not a watch with a couple of zeros on the end of the price tag! I still would have been impressed with being able to little thicker and bring back the seconds hand. But I realize "under 9mm" was the goal, and at least the lack of seconds hand fits the design language here. Looks great....and THIN!
My point here is that 9mm is achievable with a fully functional 9015 including date and central seconds as demonstrated by Makydo. Let alone the 9019 which has lower hand height to allow for even thinner designs. Their omission here is a design choice, not a compromise for thickness. You'll note the Venezianico has long hands which reach right over the applied indices and logo. This is not a recommendation for M but it's a good data point to have for comparison.
I wasn't aware of the Makydo being so thin with a 9015! Definitely a great reference point, and goes along with what I was saying in the video that I would be happy with whatever the thickness was if it included a seconds hand. But I gotta say the minimalistic approach is a great design flair.
@@WatchWitt I repeat... it's not a commendation. I have a lot of issues with their creation. I bought an extra one because I'm a tinkerer and at this price it's cheaper than buying the movement and case etc separately. But the data is objective. Thanks for your fast paced reviews
+15 is pretty weak for a new delivery. Those miyotas are pretty decent and should be OK over the average if regulated properly. Sorry to see you left apprentice-marks on the case. That double-screw system is the devil. Never mind, it'll buff right out!
Yes, but also just that one position, dial up, so it doesn't tell the whole story. Same for the Ultrablack that came in at 0.0spd...not a final number. But since the two watches were that far off from each other, it's my guess these are not regulated by Venezianico. The marks... i've since bought a better set of screwdrivers, but it takes a contortionist to do the job perfectly! 😆
@@WatchWitt Yeah I've been nudging every UA-camr out of vicarious needs... and thank you for downplaying the 1-pos readout because it really is meaningless without a real world example (which I know you do! Thank you!) or at least the 5 pos, or 6 or whatever your standards are. It only takes 15 minutes to do a 5 or 6 position average which would be much more meaningful even if you don't show the whole process.
Yeah, I feel that it's confusing to talk about one set of numbers, but show just a fraction of that process. So I just mention the disclaimer...it keeps it simpler. I feel like my hand readings are more real-world, even though less accurate than multi-positions on the timegrapher. Thanks for noticing!
Those Miyotas can run really wild unfortunately + they are very annoying to regulate with hyper sensitive regulation lever. But yeah - just one one position on the timegrapher says absolutely nothing, and the "reviewers' favorite" dial up one says even less as it's not very common to wear a watch like that during the day.
I think some of the reason we gravitate towards "dial up" is just confirmation that you're seeing the same watch on camera...the dial is visible. Love your comments, thanks for contributing!
Each of these two versions have their issues at certain angles. I didn't really find it to be any more concerning than other dress watches. You turn your wrist until you can make it out!
Not sure, honestly. But I wouldn't be surprised. Most micro or small brands have their watches produced by Chinese manufacturers. For me, if they don't mention specifically where it was built, I assume the same as you.
I failed to mention that sizing the bracelet is much easier than changing straps, as the LINKS have a single sided screw system.
Venezianico is an elegant time piece at a high end price point for those customers that ( do not ) compromise with reservation or hesitation in paying up..
Thank you for the vast in depth reviews. You are going forward full throttle..!! 👍
Yes, price point isn't for everyone, but you definitely get what you pay for--quality.
Many thanks . Astonishing watches and beautiful unbiased, knowledgeable revew.
Thanks again. Venezianico are doing great . Keep reviewing them. They are booming all over
I appreciate it! I agree, they are really picking up new fans right and left. It's fun to see their growth and new models coming out!
I’m waiting on my black version now here in Australia.🥰😎👍🏼
It's blacker than black! Wait until you see it in person...the camera/video (at least mine!) doesn't even begin to showcase how much of a black hole this is when you peer into it! Would love to hear your thoughts on the watch after you've had it a couple of weeks...hope to see you back here!
@ I’m salivating at the impending arrival! I’ll definitely get back to you! Loving your work mate! 👍🏻
Thanks for the kind words! Great to have you around!
On the money about those bracelet screws. Had to battle them on my Marathon bracelet. Nightmare. Stunning watch in blue. Definitely the blue on the bracelet for me. Great review. Thanks for sharing.
Yeah, I totally agree, those screws are hard to manage! Since it arrives on the bracelet, if you add on, I wonder if they never intended for us to do swaps? But if I have a strap AND a bracelet, I'm going to want to experience the watch on both!
No running seconds hand = no purchase, no matter the thinness...
Might as well be quartz and even thinner without that seconds hand.
I'm sure there are a lot of enthusiasts in your camp. I enjoy seeing movement on the dial...especially if it's a 4Hz beat rate or higher! I think this is more about the minimalistic design element than aesthetics of omitting a seconds hand. They have other 10mm watches with seconds hands. I applaud their choice to seek thinness with an automatic watch, even if it doesn't alienate a good portion of the market. We have SO many choices. Somebody is absolutely loving this, equal to the amount you're disagreeing with it. And that's great on both fronts!
Agreed
That black dial has a bit of an association to the Movado line..
Good job friend. !!
Definitely....but this one is blacker than black!
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Black with a deep sheen
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Right !! 😊
Looks a lot like a Parmigiani Tonda. Thats a compliment for sure.
I can see a resemblance in the bezel and knurling, for sure. They've got a super thin case, too, with micro-rotor automatic.
Gorgeous watches. Hate the double screw on the straps. The blue dial with its vertical stripes is 💙👌🔥
The Geneva stripes are beautiful! You can find me twirling my wrist in the sun to make the dial come alive! Yeah, bummer about the screw system. I pointed out so that hopefully others will keep their watch unscathed by just keeping on their strap/bracelet of choice. It's tough, though, because both options look phenomenal!
@WatchWitt The watches I have with bracelets with double screws I have taken to a small, well trusted local watchmaker for sizing .....
@@felo6035 Yup, leave it to the pros! You just made me realize that I didn't mention that the LINKS on this bracelet are single sided screws, so no problem sizing on your own. But the actual strap or bracelet to the watch head...I recommend leaving on whichever you prefer!
@@WatchWittOh, that's important to know as at least the sizing of the bracelet is of no concern. Thank you for the clarification 👍
@felo6035 Yeah, I made a pinned comment on that. I forgot because it fit me perfectly without removing any links, if I remember correctly! It's hard to keep all these watches straight! Well, YOU know...I know you've got a "few" watches! 😂
Is it really 8.95mm including crystal? (EDIT: I see it actually is. Well done to these guys) I have several "affordable" integrated watches like this that are advertised as "under 9mm" thick, but two of them are actually 9.3 when the crystal is included. Only the Makydo is actually 9.0mm thick and cost less than $200. with central seconds and a date complication. Another two I have are considerably thinner but not really comparable as you'd have to add a couple of zeros to the price. I have to say, though, Venezianico, despite some design flaws in utility, have really knocked it out of the park when it comes to outright classyness in these designs.
Yes. See 1:29 where I describe just that and show you the caliper reading. Great thinness for an automatic and not a watch with a couple of zeros on the end of the price tag! I still would have been impressed with being able to little thicker and bring back the seconds hand. But I realize "under 9mm" was the goal, and at least the lack of seconds hand fits the design language here. Looks great....and THIN!
My point here is that 9mm is achievable with a fully functional 9015 including date and central seconds as demonstrated by Makydo. Let alone the 9019 which has lower hand height to allow for even thinner designs. Their omission here is a design choice, not a compromise for thickness. You'll note the Venezianico has long hands which reach right over the applied indices and logo. This is not a recommendation for M but it's a good data point to have for comparison.
@@WatchWitt Glad we're on the same page. Design is what these guys are all about. thickness (or lack thereof) is easy with these movements. ;)
I wasn't aware of the Makydo being so thin with a 9015! Definitely a great reference point, and goes along with what I was saying in the video that I would be happy with whatever the thickness was if it included a seconds hand. But I gotta say the minimalistic approach is a great design flair.
@@WatchWitt I repeat... it's not a commendation. I have a lot of issues with their creation. I bought an extra one because I'm a tinkerer and at this price it's cheaper than buying the movement and case etc separately. But the data is objective. Thanks for your fast paced reviews
+15 is pretty weak for a new delivery. Those miyotas are pretty decent and should be OK over the average if regulated properly. Sorry to see you left apprentice-marks on the case. That double-screw system is the devil. Never mind, it'll buff right out!
Yes, but also just that one position, dial up, so it doesn't tell the whole story. Same for the Ultrablack that came in at 0.0spd...not a final number. But since the two watches were that far off from each other, it's my guess these are not regulated by Venezianico. The marks... i've since bought a better set of screwdrivers, but it takes a contortionist to do the job perfectly! 😆
@@WatchWitt Yeah I've been nudging every UA-camr out of vicarious needs... and thank you for downplaying the 1-pos readout because it really is meaningless without a real world example (which I know you do! Thank you!) or at least the 5 pos, or 6 or whatever your standards are. It only takes 15 minutes to do a 5 or 6 position average which would be much more meaningful even if you don't show the whole process.
Yeah, I feel that it's confusing to talk about one set of numbers, but show just a fraction of that process. So I just mention the disclaimer...it keeps it simpler. I feel like my hand readings are more real-world, even though less accurate than multi-positions on the timegrapher. Thanks for noticing!
Those Miyotas can run really wild unfortunately + they are very annoying to regulate with hyper sensitive regulation lever. But yeah - just one one position on the timegrapher says absolutely nothing, and the "reviewers' favorite" dial up one says even less as it's not very common to wear a watch like that during the day.
I think some of the reason we gravitate towards "dial up" is just confirmation that you're seeing the same watch on camera...the dial is visible. Love your comments, thanks for contributing!
I love big watches; I cannot lie but this one here really caught my eye! I say take a load off fanny- n put the blue arse right on me!❤😂
Can always count on you for a lyric tie-in, no matter how far the stretch! Yes, this blue dial with the Geneva stripes is incredible!
Any watch that has 'ARSE' in its description is a big NO for me, just saying.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Baby's got back!
Not a gunners fan, I take it?
Split the word, then kinda reverse it. “Nale” Arse!🤣🤭
Doesn’t seem very legible.
Each of these two versions have their issues at certain angles. I didn't really find it to be any more concerning than other dress watches. You turn your wrist until you can make it out!
made in china?
Not sure, honestly. But I wouldn't be surprised. Most micro or small brands have their watches produced by Chinese manufacturers. For me, if they don't mention specifically where it was built, I assume the same as you.