Kelly Hansen of FOREIGNER Speaks Out!

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  • @BruceColon-BSides
    @BruceColon-BSides Рік тому +18

    Foreigner not in the Hall of Shame should surprise me, but sadly doesn’t anymore. Such is the sorry state of that pathetic institution. But you know where I stand on the RnRHOF, Michael. 🤬
    Whether us rock fans like it or not, brand names will continue to far outlive actual members. Such is the corporatization of rock music. So the interesting question I ask myself is if there is legitimacy in the spirit, ethos, and style of a band/brand regardless of membership? Is this a valid question for certain bands, but completely invalid for others (such as the Beatles or Led Zeppelin who are irreplaceable on every conceivable level)? There was a time where I wouldn’t even humor such questions, but examples like the new Yes album further complicate things. Food for thought. 🤔

    • @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine
      @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine  Рік тому +4

      Wow! Hood question Bruce! Mirror to the Sky has got me re-thinking what the band YES is!
      I’m sooo confused! 😜😂🎉❤
      BTW, I really enjoyed your latest thoughts on latest video Bruce! So much said in under 7 minutes was such a info-packed easily view brother!
      Hey everyone check out his video! Seriously well worth the peruse! ua-cam.com/video/in6jgCaAehY/v-deo.html

    • @BruceColon-BSides
      @BruceColon-BSides Рік тому +1

      @@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine I really appreciate it, Michael. Love the tight-knit music-loving community we get to be part of. Your support is always meaningful. 🙏🏼

    • @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine
      @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine  Рік тому +2

      @@BruceColon-BSidesAlways Bruce!❤❤❤

    • @JPM1942
      @JPM1942 Рік тому

      8:58 ​@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

    • @arpeggio62
      @arpeggio62 Рік тому

      Yes is Another Cover Band at this Point - total Bullshit...@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine

  • @michaelcurtis6157
    @michaelcurtis6157 Рік тому +10

    You're spot on; Foreigner should be in but only the 5. I wouldn't go see them once without Lou

  • @robertalynn1804
    @robertalynn1804 Рік тому +34

    Foreigner should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! Absolutely!!

  • @lionheartroar3104
    @lionheartroar3104 Рік тому +28

    The fact that the current lineup is touring does nothing to diminish the fact that the original band created this great music.

    • @kellyheath6952
      @kellyheath6952 Рік тому +1

      I think their first album is still there finest werk

    • @JPM1942
      @JPM1942 Рік тому +4

      I just saw Foreigner August 2 at Jones Beach no original member were there not even Mick Jones. Foreigner should be in the hall of fame but the original members Lou Gramm , Mick Jones ect... Foreigner 1 - 4 . Today it's a cover band they are good but not Foreigner.

    • @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine
      @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine  Рік тому +2

      I agree lopmheart!❤❤❤

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral Рік тому

      ​@@JPM1942I'd accept that everyone still alive in Foreigner is allowed to be celebrated in the Rock Hall because Kelly Hansen and Jeff Pilson have kept the band on tour with Mick Jones. Induct the dead members posthumously of course.
      Just induct everyone in the band similar to the Eagles when everyone from Glenn Frey to Timothy Schmitt is allowed in despite Timothy only being a hired gun.

    • @JPM1942
      @JPM1942 Рік тому

      @Thomasmemoryscentral Thomas Mick Jones is not touring with present band. He doesn't come on stage. This is probably why they are doing their final tour. Without the founder they really can't continue.

  • @ericblair54
    @ericblair54 Рік тому +17

    The question as to whether FOREIGNER should be admitted into the ludicrous R&RHoF is axiomatic...of course.
    The current FOREIGNER band is, like YES, a tribute band. FOREIGNER is not FOREIGNER without Lou Gramm.

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral Рік тому +2

      Can recall Michael's top 10 bands of jukebox heroes to jukebox zeros video randomly recommended to me last year maybe September 2022 and he said at the time that when he last checked, there isnt a single original band member left there in Foreigner.
      At least Steve Howe bothers to show up more than 20 minutes for Yes compared to Mick Jones

    • @ericblair54
      @ericblair54 Рік тому +2

      @@Thomasmemoryscentral Good point.

    • @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine
      @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine  Рік тому +3

      And that about says it for me as well Eric! No Lou, no Loot! ❤❤❤

  • @josephtreffiletti4198
    @josephtreffiletti4198 Рік тому +3

    Great video Brother! Oh yes, Foreigner belong in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Shame, I mean Fame! haha! But if they do, the original line up should play at the ceremony. I saw Kelly Hansen years ago with his first band Hurricane open for Stryper and they were great. I also saw Bassist Jeff Pilson with Dokken twice years ago too, and they were great too. Both awesome musicians. I did see Foreigner with Kelly and Jeff before the pandemic, and Mick Jones did play the whole show that night. It was at Saratoga Performing Arts Center in Saratoga, NY. They did sound awesome. I met Lou Graham in 1991 at a Rock Expo in Albany, NY, and he was a super cool guy. Best wishes always Brother! ❤

  • @filemonbulosan5771
    @filemonbulosan5771 Рік тому +21

    It's sad not to see Lou singing for this band again. This is one of my favorite rock band.

    • @09haircut
      @09haircut Рік тому +3

      I don't think Lou can sing well enough to be there right now

  • @remoskins1437
    @remoskins1437 Рік тому +24

    The original members from the first 5 albums are the ones that did it all. They should be the ones inducted.

    • @jupitermadcat
      @jupitermadcat Рік тому +2

      Absolutely

    • @davej.meister5421
      @davej.meister5421 Рік тому

      The following Foreigner members should be inducted, when that time comes:
      Lou Gramm, Mick Jones, Ian McDonald, Al Greenwood, Ed Gagliardi, Dennis Elliott, and Rick Wills. Nobody else.

    • @Rajgitaa
      @Rajgitaa 10 місяців тому +2

      Original members from the first 5. That's the band. That's the band from where all the hits came from that made them great, and worthy of induction. I can't see why there would be a question - it's obvious to thinking people.

  • @BayouMaccabee
    @BayouMaccabee Рік тому +13

    As far as I'm concerned, when the current Foreigner lineup plays it's actually just a really good Foreigner tribute band with special guest Mick Jones.

  • @royceinthehouse842
    @royceinthehouse842 Рік тому +6

    Foreigner should be in the RRHOF, with timeless hits like "I WANT TO KNOW WHAT LOVE IS", "COLD AS ICE", "FEELS LIKE THE FIRST TIME", and so many others they are more than deserving. As usual politics eventually plays a major roll in most organizations in the absolute worst way.

  • @floundergearjam
    @floundergearjam Рік тому +12

    Michael, I think we, as music enthusiasts, have to accept the fact that the RRHOF has been hijacked by a smug group of opportunists and this situation is not going to resolve itself anytime soon. We have to take comfort in the fact that this tribe knows the score. The real Hall of Fame lies with us and not some ugly building in Cleveland, Ohio.

    • @kentfuqua9634
      @kentfuqua9634 Рік тому +1

      Well said! In our hearts they are already there!

  • @georgemusic4all4seasons
    @georgemusic4all4seasons Рік тому +6

    Foreigner (the original band members) should definitely be in RRHOF. Let’s not forget the hit Double Vision, amongst the many others.

  • @TheProgCorner
    @TheProgCorner Рік тому +3

    I love Foreigner (and the King Crimson connection doesn’t hurt…) They should be in The Hall.

  • @VIDEOHEREBOB
    @VIDEOHEREBOB Рік тому +7

    Lou Gramm should be in it without question. His stellar vocal contributions alone to Foreigner needs to be recognized. I study his vocals to this day! Then you have his songwriting.

  • @jamesdaniels3699
    @jamesdaniels3699 Рік тому +10

    Foreigner was the first album I bought.I got it when it came out. I loved the song Star Rider, the Moog solo got me.
    The current line up should be a tribute band with special guest Mick Jones.

    • @JPM1942
      @JPM1942 Рік тому +2

      Mick Jones isn't there either. He's been sick lately.

    • @koolkitties8552
      @koolkitties8552 Рік тому +2

      I still have their first album and head games double vision and Foreigner 4 on album. All those albums are really good one of my favorite songs was Rev on the red line remember that one? I am from the same area that Lou Gramm is from and I know what that song was written about and my brother new Lou Gramm a little bit

    • @waltersimmons946
      @waltersimmons946 Рік тому +3

      ​@JPM1942 Lou said in August of 2022 on John Beaudins ROCK HISTORY that Mick wasn't doing well with heart problems. Jeff Pilson came out a while later in a different interview saying Mick was doing well. Yet Mick is not seen on stage AT ALL. I believe Lou over Pilson about Mick. This "FAREWELL TOUR" is nothing but a MONEY 💰 GRAB.

    • @JPM1942
      @JPM1942 Рік тому +2

      @waltersimmons946 I agree with you. Lou is probably right. I was at that concert on Aug 2. Mick Jones. I fid not pay to see them . I won the tickets on a Radio Station. I wouldn't pay to see them now. I saw them in 1980 with Lou. They were great.

    • @waltersimmons946
      @waltersimmons946 Рік тому +3

      @JPM1942 Thanks for responding. Lou was exactly right. In his book "LOU GRAMM JUKE BOX HERO my 5 decades in Rock n Roll which came out in 2012. Lou explained how he felt the fans were being ripped off by this "new" Foreigner. Recently, Lou did an interview explaining the Hansen lineup was being paid (for touring) double more money than the original lineup and classic 4 ever got, and you know the original members created and toured to promote the classics. Very dirty indeed.

  • @MusicOrLoseItTV
    @MusicOrLoseItTV Рік тому +10

    It was more important to have Dolly Parton, Missy Elliot, Janet Jackson, Eminem. Hopefully a future inductee will call out the charade of calling it R&RHOF when it needs to be renamed Music Hall Of Fame

    • @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine
      @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine  Рік тому +2

      LOL! Yeah it a travesty MOLi! Good to hear from you! ❤❤❤

    • @raybenoit5238
      @raybenoit5238 Рік тому

      It's all political , it's all illegitimate , don't mean two shits to me

    • @kellyheath6952
      @kellyheath6952 Рік тому +1

      I think like most of these shoes these days Grammys Oscars, rock ‘n’ roll Hall of Fame’s popularity contests

  • @kevinbrake9407
    @kevinbrake9407 Рік тому +13

    I agree with you Michael. The current band has monster talent, but I don't consider them to be Foreigner. They should definitely tour as a tribute band IMO.

    • @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine
      @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine  Рік тому +2

      Even changing the name to Foreigner’s Ghost, but with attachment to all art work would work for me Kevin!❤❤❤

    • @corykottickmusic3194
      @corykottickmusic3194 Рік тому

      Jeff Pilson has been with Foreigner for almost 20 years. Kelly Hanson for longer.

    • @simonajugarih3620
      @simonajugarih3620 Рік тому +1

      ​@@corykottickmusic3194Kelly joined in 2005, how is that more than 20?

    • @corykottickmusic3194
      @corykottickmusic3194 Рік тому

      @@simonajugarih3620 ok…18 years is still a long tenure.

    • @simonajugarih3620
      @simonajugarih3620 Рік тому +1

      @@corykottickmusic3194 yes, I guess a couple of years should not matter. The main point is that he hasn't done anything of importance in this time,...

  • @greghawkins229
    @greghawkins229 Рік тому +3

    Absolutely deserve to be in. Zero discussion.

  • @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion
    @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion Рік тому +2

    Stoked to see the Kansas debut LP shown! Bought it when it came out due to the cover and was blown away!

  • @stevierico5934
    @stevierico5934 Рік тому +3

    The original band members should be in the hall of fame and not the replacements

  • @kevinkantell7381
    @kevinkantell7381 Рік тому +3

    Foreigner was killer and so was Lover boy! Both great on a good set of speakers!👍

  • @helenespaulding7562
    @helenespaulding7562 Рік тому +7

    I played the first Foreigner album on cassette in my car to DEATH. Loved it. I think I just burned myself out on them. That happens to me sometimes. It was the exception for me to have more than 3 albums by the same group or artist. The Beatles of course. Floyd. Dylan. Mitchell.

    • @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine
      @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine  Рік тому +1

      Yeah I burnt myself out decades ago, but just recently started relisten in to them, and wow! They really were quite good Helene!❤❤❤

    • @w.geoffreyspaulding6588
      @w.geoffreyspaulding6588 Рік тому

      @@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLineindeed they were! 🤗

    • @Krankinproductions
      @Krankinproductions Рік тому

      Who cares,? The current band keeps The music Going. Like many artists today keep s The old blues like muddy Waters going. Bb King....Lou has His own band and did anyone mention don Henley is not in the eagles? Don Henley is the only remaining member, with Vince Gill and NOT don Felder! Lindsey Buckingham isn't original either But replaced my Neil Finn and Mike from Tom Petty and the heartbreakers

    • @Krankinproductions
      @Krankinproductions Рік тому

      Kelly Hansen has The energy And be vocal Chops they're great. We all want what we can't Have And the 🎈 original members are in their 70s

    • @Krankinproductions
      @Krankinproductions Рік тому

      The band foreigner sounds great. So what they're not the original band' they Left

  • @davidtexter913
    @davidtexter913 Рік тому

    Mick Jones has a right to encourage and continue what he created with the players he has picked to represent the legacy band. Yes into rrhof like so many other bands and artists that influenced others. The reality; Music and musicians are now 30,40 and 50 years older, and we need to see them with a wide lens, not just as they were in 1977! Either ignore the rrhof or continue to harp on their biased stance. To many changes in the music/radio/entertainment world to even be able to compare today with yesterday...but ohhhhh what great music was made, and we can still listen to them now, or as they were then... our choice! Another Great posting!!!! 👍

  • @Lengsel7
    @Lengsel7 Рік тому +3

    The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame should be in Foreigner.

  • @michaelrochester48
    @michaelrochester48 Рік тому +3

    I’m from Rochester New York, where I come from Lou Graham IS Foreigner

  • @LarryGonzalez00
    @LarryGonzalez00 Рік тому +8

    Here's who I'd induct (a partial list): Neil Sedaka, Johnny Rivers, The Beau Brummels, The Turtles, Paul Revere and The Raiders, The Monkees (and Nesmith as a solo artist), Procol Harum, Badfinger, War, The Carpenters, Bread, America, John Denver, Jim Croce, Olivia Newton John, Grand Funk Railroad, Three Dog Night, Styx, Sweet, Johnny and Edgar Winter, Foreigner, Ted Nugent, The Raspberries, XTC. Like I said, only a partial list. One more thing, I think it's a travesty that Bob Welch was not inducted as a member of Fleetwood Mac. I've heard it's because of bitterness caused by a lawsuit. Bob Welch kept that band going between the Peter Green and Buckingham/Nicks years. Put him in NOW!

    • @MIB_63
      @MIB_63 Рік тому +2

      Many good choices except that I don't consider Neil Sedaka and Olivia Newton John as true rock artists.

    • @LarryGonzalez00
      @LarryGonzalez00 Рік тому +1

      @@MIB_63 I count any act that started after the mid 50s as eligible. Johnny Cash was country, Al Green is soul, ABBA is pop, Black Sabbath is metal, James Taylor is soft rock but they're all in.

    • @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine
      @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine  Рік тому

      Oh my goodness Larry! So many of my favorites!
      The Monkees, and yes Nesmith as a solo artist, along with Flo and Eddie? Not to mention Johnny Rivers live at the Whiskey -a-Go-Go. Badfinger & The Beau Brummells as a cherry on top???
      I’ll take two please!!!❤❤❤

  • @kellyheath6952
    @kellyheath6952 Рік тому +3

    Michael, I think only the original members of foreigners should be inducted into the Hall of Fame.

  • @donnafields2271
    @donnafields2271 Рік тому +2

    The original members should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Especially Lou Gramm and Mick Jones, since they wrote the majority of the songs too.

  • @rickdavis3918
    @rickdavis3918 Рік тому +1

    The original members should be if it wasn’t for them todays members wouldn’t have the sounds to sing. I went to see the band in 1979 and just this month in 2023 went again. I see them as a very good tribute band.

  • @tod3msn
    @tod3msn Рік тому +1

    Lou Gramm has said in interviews that the clash between Jann Wenner and Mick Jones is keeping Foreigner out. I don't begrudge Kelly Hansen a good living fronting this Foreigner tribute band and I salute him earning an income in music. For me, in October of 1977 I saw Jay Ferguson of "Thunder Island" fame support Foreigner on their first tour in at a CYC gymnasium that a popular concert venue at the time. It was a rainy night and I was on a date that went nowhere but that never mattered as I had a great seat to see Foreigner. I was in the balcony on the side of the stage above Ian McDonald who totally impressed me as he played keyboard, guitar, flute, sax with such proficiency that he was a brilliant multi instrumentalist. I've seen many live shows since but no one matches Ian McDonald. Mick Jones was on guitar, Al Greenwood keyboards, Ed Gagliardi was bass and Dennis Elliot drums. Lou Gramm was awe inspiring as he took the stage that night and had the audience spell bound. Foreigner in October of 1977 was one of the greatest rock shows I'd ever seen.

  • @Norelti1973
    @Norelti1973 Рік тому +2

    Lou Gramm is Foreigner. The voice

  • @tlmass81
    @tlmass81 5 місяців тому +1

    As of today, thanks to Mr. Winter being ousted from the Rock Hall, Foreigner will now be in the HOF. Band members going in:
    Lou Gramm
    Mick Jones
    Ian MacDonald
    Al Greenwood
    Dennis Elliott
    Ed Gagliardi
    Rick Wills-who replaced Ed in '79.

  • @Kattymontenegro50
    @Kattymontenegro50 5 місяців тому +1

    Lou Gramm es foraigner sin su voz las canciones no tendrían tanto exito❤

  • @jeffreyflint6286
    @jeffreyflint6286 Рік тому +2

    Agreed Michael.

  • @jupitermadcat
    @jupitermadcat Рік тому +3

    The first 5 albums with Lou Gramm are best.

  • @ministerofdarkness
    @ministerofdarkness Рік тому +2

    Better chance of Milli Vanilli getting in the Rock Hall of Shame than Foreigner! Blame it On the Rain!

  • @drmusic3641
    @drmusic3641 Рік тому +1

    I completely agree with you but I'd also include "Inside Information" from 1987. "Say You Will" from that album is a real earworm!

  • @shauncronin3961
    @shauncronin3961 Рік тому +1

    I had the “Head Games” album on vinyl, cassette and 8-trac and used them all daily

  • @Billyness
    @Billyness Рік тому +3

    I have seen the current lineup live in concert. It was a great show, great band ,top notch musicians. 🔥
    But I have to agree with you that only the members up to "Agent Provocateur" should get in.
    The current lineup only recorded one decent album, maybe if they had more hits. Maybe.

    • @platterjockey
      @platterjockey Рік тому +1

      I would inch it up to "Inside Information". At least both Mick and Lou are still on it.

  • @BobJohnson-mq2dr
    @BobJohnson-mq2dr Рік тому +2

    Without the ariginal line up, there is no Foreigner period!!

  • @scait38
    @scait38 Рік тому +1

    The Hall of Fame Committee need to open their eyes more!!! Yes, Foreigner belongs !!!

  • @david.leikam
    @david.leikam Рік тому +2

    It’s a great example of corporate rock, and awards sham. 🎶

  • @daviddunn773
    @daviddunn773 Рік тому +1

    Yes the Original Members Belong

  • @jasongoodwin644
    @jasongoodwin644 Рік тому

    This is very similar to a band that comes from my country Australia called The Little River. They still perform to large audiences around America that don't even know they have none of the original members at all. A replacement guitarist that joined them late In their career actually bought the band name from the original members and now tour as LRB and most aren't even aware of it.

  • @mikelewis9340
    @mikelewis9340 Рік тому +4

    Only the original band should be inducted in HOF.

  • @thejoyofthemusicinmylife7897
    @thejoyofthemusicinmylife7897 Рік тому +1

    Yes certainly Foreigner belong in Rock and Roll Hall of Fame but only the original members not the replacement musicians who came along years later.

  • @craigblack7076
    @craigblack7076 Рік тому +2

    Jan Wenner hates Chicago and The Moody Blues but they couldn't be denied forever.

  • @ronehall
    @ronehall Рік тому +1

    I've seen the most recent versions of Skynyrd, Kansas, Journey, and Foreigner, all accused of being cover bands. I thought they all were incredible regardless of what you want to call them. I do not feel cheated or have a need to place labels on them. ...but, when it comes to getting inducted into the RRHOF, the original, or most impactful of the legacy should be the ones. I know that in the case of Skynyrd and Journey, they seemed to have selected the right band members for induction.

  • @jamesreding6336
    @jamesreding6336 Рік тому +2

    Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes

  • @RickeyMcDaniel
    @RickeyMcDaniel Рік тому +3

    At this point it's a tribute band. That's what I respect about Led Zeppelin, they knew when to call it quits.

    • @user-pi7sc6cb5y
      @user-pi7sc6cb5y Рік тому

      They will be put in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame when Mick Jones is gone. I hope Lou Gramm sees the day.

  • @DPapas
    @DPapas Рік тому

    The original members of Foreigner that played on the albums should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

  • @Kattymontenegro50
    @Kattymontenegro50 5 місяців тому +1

    No estoy segura pero una de las reglas para entrar es que tenga una grabación hecha co al menos 20 año de antiguedad. Si es así es la banda original con Lou Gramm el mejor de todos los tiempos ❤❤❤

  • @clydekimsey7503
    @clydekimsey7503 Рік тому +2

    I dont personally enjoy the 4 bands you mentioned, but they should be in the hall of fame😊

    • @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine
      @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine  Рік тому +1

      Very fair-minded Clyde! I’m not crazy about Steve Perry Journey, but loved their first efforts! ❤❤❤

    • @clydekimsey7503
      @clydekimsey7503 Рік тому

      @@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine yes, with Greg Rollie

  • @caryrodda
    @caryrodda Рік тому +1

    Here are a few thoughts. First, I cannot say I was ever a big fan of Foreigner. I didn't dislike them, but for whatever reason their music did not grab me as much as some of their contemporaries like Boston and Styx. So I think my opinion on this subject is fairly objective. ABSOLUTELY, they deserve to be in the HOF! Certainly much more than some of the hip-hop acts that are already in. (No hate for hip-hop, but this is the Rock and Roll HOF.) I may not be a huge Foreigner fan, but to me their influence is undeniable. Second, even the hip-hoppers deserve way more to be connected with the HOF than Jann Wenner.
    Second, the inductees should just be the original guys, IMO. I agree with you that what is touring under the Foreigner banner right now is a tribute band - featuring occasional guest appearances from Mick Jones. If the other guys want to be at the table during the ceremony, that's cool. (Although with the obscene amount of money Wenner charges for people legitimately connected to the band to be at the table, who would want to fork that over?)
    Third, you always give me a chuckle when you push that mic on the stand away and there is obviously no drop off in sound! 😄
    Fourthly, won't someone out there please start up a legitimate R&R HOF?

  • @cmgngmc
    @cmgngmc Рік тому

    Kelly is the Steve perry of foreigner, totally enjoy his stage performance,

  • @anabolicamaranth7140
    @anabolicamaranth7140 Рік тому +1

    Double Vision was the first album I bought. I was in the 3rd grade.

  • @scottmcneely1927
    @scottmcneely1927 Рік тому +1

    But seriously folks, there should be a year we play cleanup. Nothing but real rock n roll nominees from the 60s, 70s, and 80s. Foreigner, Boston, Jethro Tull, Bad Company, King Crimson, Ted Nugent, Kansas, Paul Revere & the Raiders, Tommy James & the Shondells, The Monkees, the Runaways, the Guess Who and the Jam should be among the nominees, and induct seven. Boston, Tull, Foreigner, Guess Who, Bad Co, King Crimson, and Kansas should be the inductees. The members who played on the first five albums should be the members inducted.

  • @lastrada52
    @lastrada52 Рік тому +1

    Foreigner should be in the R&R Hall of Fame -- but with the likes of so many other legendary artists not in that Hall why even wonder?
    No Jethro Tull, Procol Harum, Chubby Checker (250 million career record sales & still performing, and he holds confirmed chart records in the music industry to this day).
    Add -- The Monkees, Steppenwolf, King Crimson, Joe Cocker, Manfred Mann (all inceptions since 1963), Mountain with Leslie West, Harry Nilsson & Warren Zevon.
    Now I get really technical -- even early pop stars like Bobby Rydell (25 million records sold & he influenced The Beatles ask Paul McCartney), Bobby Vee (38 charted records & Bob Dylan played piano for him), and Connie Francis (100 million records sold). How about some of the girl groups who influenced the likes of Amy Winehouse? How about Leslie Gore (19 charted hits, second only to Brenda Lee in sales in the 60s). More sales than some of the artists who are in the R&R Hall of Fame.
    There are many others not in the Hall. Some were inconsequential but inspiring nonetheless (like Iron Butterfly) and far more important to R&R than any soul, rap, hip-hop, or country artist.
    There's even a Greek rock singer Demis Roussous who along with Vangelis (Academy Award winner & made albums with Yes' Jon Anderson) was part of the masterful band Aphrodite's Child. Each of their careers lasted for decades. Demis alone sold over 60 million solo albums worldwide & when he came to NYC he sold out the Beacon Theater. What? Because we here in America aren't familiar with him disqualify him? BS
    Yes, Foreigner deserves to be in the R&R Hall of Fame, no doubt -- but I'm not surprised that they're not. It's a club & you ain't in it.

  • @jamesreding6336
    @jamesreding6336 Рік тому +1

    I HAVE ALL those albums still there great

  • @ShawnShipstad
    @ShawnShipstad Рік тому

    I went to high school with the "Current" line up. The guitar player to be specific. It was in Los Angeles. We graduated in I think 1979. They do sound good. The audience knows these are not the origionial guys, Yet seem to be happy to spend money to see the "Tribute" version. I saw the origional band at the Los Angeles Fromm in the 70`s-The Double vision Tour. -It could not be replicated in any way shape or forum

  • @user-ie6dz4ib3b
    @user-ie6dz4ib3b Рік тому +1

    At this point, I really don't care about the Hall of Shame.

  • @petercena9497
    @petercena9497 Рік тому +1

    Like Journey and Bon Jovi, Foreigner probably gets in once they are nominated. The reason they haven't been is because they don't have a hardcore fan base that will plead their case the way the other two bands do.

  • @WillieDuitt1
    @WillieDuitt1 Рік тому +1

    Other bands to consider...Rick James and the Stone City Band, Blue Oyster Cult, J. Geils Band, also Warren Zevon and others for sure that I haven't mentioned.

  • @russellhorsefield9199
    @russellhorsefield9199 Рік тому +1

    I am with you , the list should be the original members from 1976 to 1985 oh yes those 5 albums you mention and the last time the original mob played together was at the Gold Coast 600 in 2017 and yes it was a one off reunion for them . As for the rest , who are they as I don't even have a clue as I will call them ring ins.
    The Rock and roll hall of fame today is a joke. Like how the hell can you call Eminem Rock and Roll, Personally I call it rap crap.

  • @nyrocks5580
    @nyrocks5580 Рік тому +1

    Two indisputable facts: The so-called Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a total sham and 2. No Lou Gramm, No Foreigner.

  • @novisnick6928
    @novisnick6928 Рік тому +1

    Foreigner as well as Ted Nugent should have been awarded the RRHOF Award years ago! It doesn’t pass the smell test. The original lineup should be awarded.

    • @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine
      @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine  Рік тому +2

      Yeah Nick, that’s what I always get down to. The original line-up should get the gold!❤️😉👌

  • @koolkitties8552
    @koolkitties8552 Рік тому +39

    It's not the same without Lou Gramm sorry

    • @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine
      @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine  Рік тому +2

      No it;s certainly not Koolkitties!❤❤❤

    • @geraldjenkins7719
      @geraldjenkins7719 Рік тому +4

      I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!!! I have very fond memories of Foreigner when I first heard "Feel likes the first time" in 1977 at age 14.Foreinger will ALWAYS BE Lou Gramm who as original lead vocalist of the band co-wrote some of the bands most endearing songs.😊

    • @georgeedward1226
      @georgeedward1226 Рік тому +4

      Might as well have The Stones without Mick Jagger.

    • @-rockmusiclover-
      @-rockmusiclover- Рік тому +4

      You have to admit that Kelly does a pretty good job

    • @koolkitties8552
      @koolkitties8552 Рік тому

      @@-rockmusiclover- yeah he may do a decent job but he didn't write all their classic hits. And he's talking about Foreigner going into Rock and Roll Hall of Fame he doesn't deserve to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame with them because their music that made them so popular had Lou Gramm as the lead singer and songwriter along with Mick Jones

  • @stormbringercoming8105
    @stormbringercoming8105 Рік тому +1

    Like Yes, Foreigner has become their own tribute band. That’s okay, aa long as there’s an audience for it. Ain’t my cup of tea. They should be in the Hall of Fame. What a shame that there isn’t a REAL one. They gave us at least four or five solid albums that live on. That’s a pretty damn good gift.

  • @martinkasper197
    @martinkasper197 Рік тому +1

    For me it's the same with Rainbow's concerts in 2016. For me a Rainbow Tribute Band, no original member except Mr. Blackmore. No album, No new songs., I think he only wanted to make some money of it. OK, you can say that Ritchie often has his co-workers... But even with Dougie White on vocals he made an album (Stranger in us all) besides the concerts. I was on an Open Air where Foreigner was headliner in 1981, when Iron Maiden still had Paul DiAnno on vocals. I think they were Opener. Other bands I remember were Motörhead, Blackfoot, Blue Oyster Cult and Kansas (with Steve Morse).

  • @tektoniks_architects
    @tektoniks_architects Рік тому +1

    Obviously, the original band belongs in the HOF...as you stated. Given the track record of the Rock and Roll HOF, however, I actually have more respect for artists that are excluded from the HOF than those who are inducted today. It's become an institution of self-important, posing, self-righteous snobs. Loved your video, though, Michael....ty!

  • @ChrisTian-rm7zm
    @ChrisTian-rm7zm Рік тому

    I was once in a museum where an axe from the Viking Age was on display. Over the centuries, the handle had been replaced three times and the blade twice. Apart from that, the axe was still in the original condition as it was 1000 years ago. Jokes aside: Foreigner without Lou Gramm *and* Mick Jones does not make any sense to me.

  • @The_Music_Sanctuary
    @The_Music_Sanctuary Рік тому +1

    Who is Kelly Hansen?! Mick Jones may own the name and band, but Lou Gramms voice IS Foreigner...great video Michael..cheers ✌

  • @chrisvanuden
    @chrisvanuden Рік тому +1

    If Foreigner is to be inducted, it should only be the line-ups from the first 5 albums.

  • @simonajugarih3620
    @simonajugarih3620 Рік тому +2

    I love Foreigner's music and Lou Gramm has the best vocals I've ever heard, especially in Black Sheep. I'm a bit confused about the induction, though. Who do you induct, the 6, the 4, Lou and Mick, the bass player who played for 5 min or the one who played for 15? It must be confusing for anybody who starts thinking about it. I support that groups like U2 are in, great musicians with integrity and loyalty who wouldn't stab eachother in the back for some rent money. If they get inducted, definately only the original remaining bandmembers.

  • @peterkinsman929
    @peterkinsman929 Рік тому +2

    Yep. Foreigner deserves to be on the Rock of Fame. But only the original members should be allowed to accept that prestigious award. Love your honesty Michael it’s so true! 🎸🎸🎸

  • @83Roboto
    @83Roboto Рік тому +1

    I agree with you that Foreigner along with the other bands you mentioned here deserve induction into the R&RHOF. Wenner is a big reason that they and other bands like them are not being considered. In a recent interview Wenner mentioned that Foreigner and other bands like them "Have never come up in the discussions by the nomination committee". There are people on the the hall's nomination committee that also are responsible for this issue. They hold a bias towards such bands. As to the current lineup of the band, personally I don't consider it truly Foreigner. It's more of a tribute band in my opinion. So if Foreigner was to be inducted it should include only those that were involved with the works that are the reasons they are being chosen for induction. In my opinion, that is the way it should be for any of these groups that have gone through several lineup changes over the years.

  • @Eddie-j3s6e
    @Eddie-j3s6e Рік тому +1

    This is very easy, 'Lou Gramm & Mick Jones' are 'were and forever will be 'Foreigner'!

  • @harveyshaper360
    @harveyshaper360 Рік тому +2

    Jan Wenner has done so many despicable things -. this is just one more.

  • @48musicfan
    @48musicfan Рік тому +1

    There is no doubt Foreigner should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. However, the current status of the Hall is a joke, any way.
    Regarding which members should be included, I believe those who contributed to the first four to five albums.

  • @Eddie-j3s6e
    @Eddie-j3s6e Рік тому

    The same goes for 'Styx'! The version I love & respect aka listen to is the'Dennis DeYoung & Styx' version!

  • @northernengland
    @northernengland Рік тому

    Hawkwind has had about 50 members including ginger baker and almost jack bruce! with only one original who copywrited the name, he still maintains its hawkwind.

  • @jamesreding6336
    @jamesreding6336 Рік тому

    I saw Foreigner and Molly hatchet for my first concert in 1978

  • @MultiEviscerator
    @MultiEviscerator Рік тому +1

    Answer to question #1, "does Foreigner deserve to be in the HOF?". The answer is an unequivocal Y E S !
    Aside from their deserving so, how can non R&R groups/individuals be inducted (hip hop, rap crap, country, or even straight up pop), when they are nothing close to R&R?
    Next question posed. Who among the many former members of Foreigner should be inducted, (assuming if Foreigner ever gets inducted), if X amount are still alive, will personal grievances cause deserving former members to take the stage?
    Sadly an mentally unhinged mimical oligarch will allow his delicate feelings to carry the day (aka one individual among millions of others Jann Wenner), to keep great R&R groups out. That might come to an end when his pathetic bitter emotions come to an end, upon his inevitable passing.
    But by then, most of the members (past & present of X amount of worthy individuals) might well not experience the joy and recognition of their talent and achievements.

  • @greggesslein5383
    @greggesslein5383 Рік тому +2

    I just saw Foreigner at Jones Beach in NY. Mick Jones wasn't there. It was a fantastic show and each of the musicians are great. I would pay to see them again. However, they are not Foreigner. I age with Michael - they are an extremely talented tribute band.

  • @robintaylor485
    @robintaylor485 Рік тому +1

    Because of Rolling Stone magazine, and one of this writers for the magazine stuff and MacJones, or some BS like that politics basically Rolling Stone magazine, pretty much controls that thing

  • @keefercfer
    @keefercfer Рік тому +1

    The Hall of Fame has had very little to do with RnR since its inception. I feel somewhat grateful that I was able to see the Foreigner 4 incarnation of the band; it was a dream come true having first heard them on the radio when "Feels Like the First Time" was released. Wow. Once Lou was gone? It ceased to be Foreigner to me. Now? I agree, those touring under the Foreigner banner are really a tribute band. It's the same kind of thing to me as Styx, but YMMV.

    • @keefercfer
      @keefercfer Рік тому +1

      The only members who should be inducted are the original members, but who cares.

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral Рік тому +1

      Styx at least has JY one of the founding members and Chuck Panzzo from the original lineup. 2 original members Vs Mick Jones

  • @georgeedward1226
    @georgeedward1226 Рік тому +2

    Foreigner is a true rock band with pop music appeal. Saw them play at MSG in '79. (Johnny Winter opened). Not sure who these guys are calling themselves Foreigner now but without Lou Gramm, it's a tribute band. As for the HOF, it's a joke at best. A scam at worst.

  • @mikeb.7183
    @mikeb.7183 Рік тому +1

    Foreigner was always just Mick and Lou. I also think Mick has burned more than a few bridges along the way. With Lou and Mick being estranged from each other and the Tribute Band still out there touring doesn’t help the situation.

  • @garyjohnson627
    @garyjohnson627 Рік тому +2

    Given the boards recently nominated rubbish into the academy, I have to assume Justin Bieber and vanilla ice have more chance.

  • @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion
    @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion Рік тому +1

    This is what happens when any institution is weighted in internal politics vs their core mission.

  • @MadisonKelly-sv9qd
    @MadisonKelly-sv9qd Рік тому +5

    Thank you for bringing up Foreigner. I thought Foreigner was a great hard rock band. When Wanna Know What Love Is came out, that is when I started to lose interest in them. Boring sell out ballad money grab is what I think destroyed them. Imo. I can’t get past the first four albums, totally great albums. Lou Gramm what a voice, can’t argue how he influenced so many vocalist.
    That band definitely deserves to be in RNR HOF. The members should be the ones who were still in the band within the first four. I guess it does include Mick and Lou.
    This current band is a Tribute, it’s not Foreigner.

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral Рік тому +3

      Calling it Mick Jones And Foreigner tribute similar to Don Henley's Eagles

    • @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine
      @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine  Рік тому +3

      I agree on that cut Madison TOTALLY! Good call! ❤❤❤

    • @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine
      @MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine  Рік тому +1

      @@Thomasmemoryscentral👌

    • @morrisanderson3180
      @morrisanderson3180 Рік тому

      agreed 👍 1st 4 albums are superb. mick Jones + lou gramm were a great pairing .

    • @frommatorav1
      @frommatorav1 Рік тому +1

      I never really liked, I want to Know What Love Is but there are a couple of other songs from that Era I liked, like That was Yesterday and Say You Will. The rest of my favorites are on the earlier albums.
      If they get into the RnR HOF, Lou Gramm needs to be a part of it.

  • @mccartney2
    @mccartney2 Рік тому

    This current band are superb!
    Better musically than the originals.
    Kelly is way up there with Lou Gramm -and does a great job
    Even their one original album with Kelly was superb -so -that legitimizes him and this brand of foreigner

    • @hondaphan4172
      @hondaphan4172 Рік тому

      I like Kelly quite a bit but no way in hell does he compare to Lou in his prime. You think the album released with Kelly was superb? I was so looking forward to it and I ended up being very disappointed with it when it was finally released as it was just meh. Nothing about it compared in any way to the first six albums.

  • @ojmccaf63
    @ojmccaf63 10 місяців тому +1

    Mick Jones barely there due to health reason it’s actually a sad state! I do hope this truly a farewell tour! It’s OVER!!!

  • @donnafields2271
    @donnafields2271 Рік тому +1

    What about Toto! All the original members have been all over rock and roll songs. They have played on over 5000 records and I’m talking about with other artists. I mean really! At least the Musicians Hall of Fame got it right! There definitely in that Hall of Fame!

  • @56Truex
    @56Truex Рік тому +1

    I’ve seen Foreigner with Lou and with Kelly. Both shows were good but Lou goes into the HOF whenever that time is

  • @Too-Odd
    @Too-Odd Рік тому

    Of Journey, Styx, Foreigner, and REO Speedwagon, only Journey has made it in, and that was because they wiped the fan vote, and Don't Stop Believin' was used in Glee.

  • @steverogers2635
    @steverogers2635 Рік тому +1

    Of course Foreigner should be in the HOF. But only the members that were on those first five albums. No posers and no tribute bands.

  • @martron1962
    @martron1962 Рік тому +1

    The RRHOF has never been more irrelevant to Rock and Roll than it is today. Did Dolly Parton ever get in?

  • @lewisg1736
    @lewisg1736 Рік тому +2

    Lou Reed is in twice. What does that tell you about the selection process?

  • @artsahobby123
    @artsahobby123 Рік тому +1

    Grand Funk Railroad, The Beach Boys, or how else? The Pimps & Hoes Band.