EPSON LS11000 4K Laser Home Theater Projector Review
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- Today we check out the new 2022 Epson LS1100 Pro UHD laser projector. HDR10, HDR10+ and HLG is supported with HDMI 2.1 48Gbps 4K 120Hz.
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Nice review & nice to see someone is still doing them for normal PJs & not just short throws!
If only this had 3D :(
3D is dead
Remove that bandaid
They'll probably just firm update it. So many big titles coming in 3D.
@@zorintoto1167 fuera de no tener 3D es demasiado grande estorboso y estrambótico
OMG I have the 6050ub, I was genuinely interested in this "true fake 4k" laser evolution, but when you said that the 3D support was missing from the LS11000 I was so disappointed
This feature is mandatory for me now
Great vid thanks !
Good video and appreciate the honest analysis
Thanks for the video
glad to see that you compare it with JVC
Nice review. The side by side comparisons with your JVC are very telling. Hope you review the LS12000 and post the exact same images vs JVC.
I've seen one movie with Aura. The image quality was outstanding, very vibrant and amazing colors, felt like like I was inside a cinema.
I'm so disappointed that Epson decided to ditch 3D for this model. I'll keep my UB5050 for a bit longer and upgrade to the JVC later this year.
Thanks for pixel peeping and doing a JVC side by side. It's all I ask for in a review. I may stick with my old 1080p JVC for a little while longer until I can muster up funds for a 4k JVC.
Very interested in Epson's new line. I currently own 5040UB. It still does a great job, especially considering what I paid for it (around $1000 refurb). There are some really in depth threads on avsforum about how to calibrate it, so I think it's dialed in pretty well. Nobody has ever come over to watch a movie and said "I wish the blacks were darker". They just enjoy the movie.
So, I'm trying to put some salve on the upgrade itch. At least for now. Thanks for the review Shane.
Same here... I have the 5030UB and just picked up another for $600 on Ebay. Going to wait it out a few years until something better comes out both in quality and price.
I'm replacing my projector for the improved picture but thank God no more buying bulbs. I'm retired and use my projector as my everyday TV.
@@styner3 The bulbs are cheap and they last longer than the Epson bulbs. I also use my projector as my main monitor for tv and as a computer screen in my theater.
I think it's super tempting to get a laser projector for that price! I currently have a Benq w2700 / ht3550 and I would like something a bit brighter, better black, less noisy and with better input lag 🙂
I’ve A/B this with the Sony 325. Both calibrated by their respective reps. The Epson is bright, and in bright scenes like life of pi, it does a good job, color not as good as Sony but not bad. But in dark scenes like game of thrones, it was nothing but noise and banding compared to the Sony
I’ve seen the Sony 325ES and was blown away .. very impressive in a lighted showroom with a low gain screen .. I’m guessing a must have on prime day discount July 12th 2022. Hoping for a $500 drop ..
If Sony could figure out a way to add lumens, I’m all in. But with 150 inch screen, a Sony would be unwatchable for me
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Thank you for a very honest review of this Epson projector, my wife and I are currently in the process of upgrading our home theater and will be moving from the Epson 8100 to this projector - we were very disappointed that it did not have 3D abilities, however, we decided to proceed with the purchase because of it being a laser light projector and we should never have to worry about changing bulbs, we found that our 8100 would not even give us 900 hours per bulb in an air conditioned environment. This upgrade will fit into our budget as we just can’t justify spending twice as much for a difference that is only slightly better.
Strange about your bulb. I have the 6350 and I got 3000+ hrs. Now I'm 2000+ hrs in on a cheap $80 replacement oem bulb
I can give you a great discount on the LS11000 if you haven’t purchased one yet.
@@Yaserthehitman how much?
@@mariowilliams1580 $3,850
@@Yaserthehitman oh wow a whole $50 off with no warranty - I will pass on this super deal and get it from Amazon.
This is so interesting!
I have followed Epsons laser projector pretty close recently since laser light source is very appealing and interesting and especially since it's coming down in price level. Has really been waiting for a video review about this, thanks!
But I am in no rush to switch to another projector since I bought TW9400 very recently but I guess when my time comes laser projector might have come one or maybe two steps further and maybe also have come down in price slightly too. I really like TW9400 projector and development and evolution is great but I could live with and be very happy if they just made a TW9400 but with laser light source. That would be totally fine with me ;) But since laser light source has so many hours on the "lamp" and the degrading is far less or even non-existent you might be able to buy a projector in the upper tier because you can plan on having it for many many years.
Jvc for the blacks. I would out the NZ3 against the 11000 at a lower price.
In all honesty, you won't notice the difference between 2 close projectors while watching a good movie as you are too invested in the movie. What you will notice of you step down from a JVC NZ7 or better that if you change to a different manufacturer, you will instantly notice the worse blacks. It is less noticable the other way, but still noticable. Of you have the Spare Change get a JVC NZ7 or better and it will be worth it.
I was never overly sold on the blacker blacks until I watched a JVC NZ7 amd the overall blacks was jaw dropping from my already decent JVC NZ3. Definitely will upgrade in the future
Have you tried XGIMI AURA? Its specs look great.
The best thing about this epson projector that separates it from the tragically crappy single-DLP majority, is it is 3-LCD, which means it's guaranteed free of any rainbow effect artifact (RBE). Plenty of shillers in and out of youtube relentlessly push single-DLP crap. Maybe they indeed don't see RBE, and so they can't talk about something they can't see. But just because they can't see RBE doesn't also mean no-one else sees it. RBE is real and as perennial as the grass. Single-DLP necessarily has to use sequential color, which is a 1920's era technology that's best left where found. Epson (and sony and jvc), which exclusively make and sell 3-chip, is the one to get.
And the shit contrast of this thing...? TRULY EMBARRASSING
Thanks for this video. How do you think it would compare to the Sony 45ES in terms of contrast?
This
What is the largest screen size this projector can do without losing picture quality?
A question. Not that I will take this upgrade route. But is it worth upgrading from a 9400 to this one? (Is it called 6060, 6050 in us?)
I hope the jvc nz7 review will be dropping soon
Pixel shifting is good enough, better black levels though would be nice. 3D not a biggie
You shouldve tested the LS 12,000. The difference in black level is is big. I can only assume that It would be more comparable to nz7.
I wished that Manufacturers stopped making 4K lens shift projectors. Buck up and put the 4K chips in them. It really is deceiving people into believing it’s real 4K.
Finally a good review on this projector with a comparison to the nz7. Love to see the same comparison with the ls12000 and maybe one featuring a Madvr and the difference that makes with the ls12000 to a nz7. But just a suggestion 😂
What's cost on madvr?
@@Espiritiv believe 7k retail for their cheapest model
@@natehgh interesting. Ok so a 5k ls12000+ 7k madvr vs stock NZ7 for 10k. Would this combo beat out an NZ7 that has Frame Adapt HDR built in? Would be a good question. My guess is you can't make the Epsons blacks as dark as the JVC so it would just be a battle of HDR operability
@@Espiritiv yeah and the pixel shift would be the question how well the madvr can adjust compared to the JVC. Love to see the comparison in a review.
I'm back watching this video again because sadly I have to pack mine up for return. After about 2 weeks mine developed a small purple spot. I'm not sure if it's dust settling on the inner lenses or a dead pixel Either way it needs to be opened up to be fixed. It does make me nervous About having it exchanged. That this happened so quickly. I've also been reading quite a bit on forums because of it. It seems pretty common.
Hello, thank u for the review, huge fan frm Canada.
I am confused between 120l9g bundle and Epson Ls11000.i do have a 135 4k screen. Both projectors are almost same price. Am confused that do i need to downgrade to 120 screen? How good these 2 projectors in real life? We have very less places here for live demo. I am completely depending on my trustworthy youtube reviews like you. Can you pls help?
Epson LS11000 is a bit more expensive but it is a 4k projector and will give you a better picture quality.
Shame you didn’t get the 12000 for review.
I have an Epson 5030 on a 100 inch screen that I use as my day-to-day TV watching, would you consider this an upgrade as far as picture quality and brightness or would I be wasting my money I understand I would save on replacing the bulbs this question goes to anybody that knows the answer
people are increasingly wanting to go minimalist in terms of heavy furniture and giant TV's now that the housing market has people forced to rent and move every couple of years. Awesome that laser is making moves for longevity and better energy consumption
I have a 100” projector set up with a benq 1070. I’m been ready to upgrade for a while but I keep having this fight in my head about getting the epson LS1100 or a 83” oled tv. I feel that I’ll notice those 17” inches of different if I go with the oled.
I’m in the same boat: been a projector guy for 15 years now and it’s hard to see projectors falling so far behind. But I have a dedicated room and I’m willing to sacrifice a few features for the immersion. I’m sticking with the size.
Good job, if only it had 3D. Looks like the 12000 can compete with JVC on black level based on that one shot you showed of the 11000 vs 12000.
It was the ls11000 vs the JVC...
Does this become a giant paper weight after the 20,000 hours of the laser light life? I have a 5040ub and I put around 4,500 hours per year. Looking to upgrade.
I wish someone would make a more comparable review. The other review I saw from home theater dude compared jvc also. Maybe the lg hu810.
I’m trialing the LG HU810PW right now (as replacement to a dying BenQ HT3550). I wanted something brighter, which the LG certainly is, but man I can’t get the colors to look as realistic as the 3550 gave me in WCG mode and the black levels on the LG are… not great lol. I mean dialing up the manual iris in film maker mode helps but sci-fi space movies are all crushed blacks and garbage looking. Literally just ordered the LS11000 and hoping for a “5050ub w/ lasers” haha.
for the cost , its worth
The price was interesting three months ago. Since then, Epson has increased the price of the LS11000 by almost 1000€, and in order not to make the LS12000 too attractive, Epson has also increased its price by almost 500€. Epson's pricing policy is inconsistent !
00:14 EPSON LS11000 4K Laser Projector offers up to 20,000 hours of lamp life.
02:15 Epson LS11000 4K Laser Home Theater Projector is an upscaling projector, not native 4K.
04:08 Adjustments and settings for optimal image quality
06:03 Adjust installation and display settings for optimal projector performance
07:53 Epson LS11000 projector settings and management overview
09:47 Comparison of Epson and JVC 4K projectors
11:24 Epson LS11000 4K laser projector offers vibrant picture quality and impressive brightness.
13:33 The Epson LS11000 projector is a high-performance entryway into home theater projection.
I wish there was an objective measure of the black floor of projectors.
compar it with Sony XW5000 ??????????
I have an Epson 5040UBE, it had a great picture but broke down right after the warranty is expired. It has a bright vertical line going down the center of the screen. There is no way I want to pay that ridiculous price that Epson wants to repair it so I am saving my money for an 11000. With this one I will check into an extended warranty, if I can buy one I would. You know, peace of mind.
Same thing is happening with my Epson 5040UBE. What was the repair cost? I'm also considering the 11000 but worry that the line issue might happen with that model too.
@@IanAlbinson I don’t remember the exact cost but I believe somewhere with shipping you’re looking at about $1500 and possibly more. Mine now has two lines going down the center.
shane u been testing these new JVC PJS for ages now.. come on mate ;)
If you had a choice between Epson 5050ub or this model which one you would consider ? On the fence on what to buy.
This. Way more lamp life.
@@therealshanelee But as far as picture goes are they both equal in picture quality and detail.
@@therealshanelee But when the lamp dies, so does the entire projector. Laser cannot be replaced.
No wonder the 5050ub is so backordered. 4k pixel shifting, laser light source and smoother gaming but no ultrablack tech. The pandemic is definitely a factor but alot of folks aren't willing to shell out the extra $1000 for a projector with similar picture quality (at best) even with all those additional bells and whistles.
So it's not worth getting the ls ???
You say that the brightness needs to keep being adjusted is you want to save highlight and shadow detail. Is that not reasonable in practice though? A movie is going to change scene by scene so a setting that is best for one scene may not be good in another. Do you constantly adjust it movie by movie? if so how do you know what scene to use for settings? I assume in practice it just makes sense to pick settings that are best for your room then not just touch it again? Thanks!
Some projectors have dynamic tone mapping. It does it frame by frame.
@@therealshanelee The EPSON LS11000 doesn't have that though right? So do you change the settings every movie you watch? Thanks!
Shane, what is the rack that you sit the projector on?
DIY
@@therealshanelee Ahhh, I am going to have to go that route too. Just bout the LS11000 and loved the review. So excited for it to come!
Will it support for 165inch screen
Yes
Holy crap the nz7 is soooo much better
I don't understand how these projectors are 4k but they NOT 4k?
Yes, it is confusing. If the projector is just 1080P and it is advertised as 4K, that means it has 4K support resolution, while the native resolution is just 1080P. I hope it clears your doubt!
Ugg. Grey scale in this model is hopeless. Might aswell get a cheap benq with native 4k
I don't know why would anyone buy LS11000 instead of LS12000. The difference in native contrast is huge, especially in low ALP scenes where this LS11000 looks like a DLP.
No 3D was a deal breaker for me
"Upscaled?" Not interested. Why did they bother?
I'll continue to wait.
*8 hrs/day for under 7 years at which point this becomes a very expensive paper weight.
Still not a native 4K
You are right, it is 4K supported. I think the native resolution may be 1080P
Listen, save up for the Sony VPL-XW5000ES for $6K. Epsons are good for the money and gaming, but for film, nothing beats Sony
2,700 Lumens is a pretty big jump from 2,000 lumens though. This would be better for an ambient light setting.
If only 5000es have 3d. Both of them dont so i will wait for next update from both of this manufacturer
JVC beats Sony any day of the week, not an option, but 99% of reputable reviewers will tell you the same. The reason Sony avoids building projectors on the same price class as JVC as they want to avoid comparison and even the lower cost JVC is equal or better that the Sony. The 5000es doesn't even have full 4k resolution as their new chip dropped it to 3840x2160 instead of the expected. 4096x2960. The JVC that is a step under the Sony price level os just as good and better in reas like black and auto HDR tonemapping acrosse multiple screen areas and that alone makes the Lower prices JVC better than the Sony. When the laser NZ5 comes out, it will eat the more expensive es5000 lunch. Only those in the Sony cult will disagree with this statement. No reputable reviewer will disagree
@@shaneducholke364 In television and consumer media, 3840 × 2160 (4K UHD) is the dominant 4K standard, whereas the movie projection industry uses 4096 × 2160 (DCI 4K). We talking about AR that's it. Actually that totally false the new Sony projector are cheaper than JVC projectors and JVC just hit it buyer with a 1K price increase last Feb. Sony projectors are getting very high praised from well know calibrators like Kris Dreeing. Not sure what reviewer you seen that from when the projectors only been seen in venue spots Sony hosted and haven't been released to reviewers yet.
@@Eurica76 I am talking about Sony projectors in general. The past couple years, reviews prefer the JVC in comparison.
With the specific model you mentioned, if you say reviewers haven't seen it, how are you able to say it is better than JVC with such confidence? The fact is, JVC has been dominating the projector game for the past 5 years. 10 years ago, Sony ruled the world but have not found an answer to JVC technology since as they cannot come close to matching the JVC black levels, which now seem to be the area enthusiasts focus on once you get over the $5000 mark.
The price increase you speak of for JVC wasn't for existing models, it was for the new laser models released within each model. It isn't a price increase per say, it is the cost of a 20,000 hour laser compared to a 5000 hour lamp.
The Epson LS11000 4K Laser Home Theater Projector is a top of the line projector perfect for any home theater. It has a native 4K resolution which makes it perfect for viewing any HD content. Additionally, it has a laser light engine which provides perfect color and brightness uniformity. It also has a low input lag which is perfect for gaming or watching movies.
*not native 4K but 1080p + e shift
20,000 hrs/8 hrs = 2,500 days/365 days = 6.8 years. Not 'almost a decade'.
It's closer to almost than not.
If it’s not really 4K and it’s just a upscaling projector why are they promoting 4K on the projector as if it really is? To me it’s a scam. And also 2500 lumens is low. I have a Sony 5000 lumens projector and it’s not 4K and it will kill that epson with all those fancy features.
but isn't the sony projector way more expensive?
Do people really spend 5 figures for a projector?
If they want a great one they do.
GT7 would be MUCH better demo material, xbox is mid at best.
1st. Hmmmm
Black is horrible grey.......... Exit reel contrast 1500/1
ls11000 is not a home cinema projector it's a living room projector for sport and TV, the blacks and contrast on ls12000 are much better
@@georgepopescu1327 juste decreise the light power for dark room in black version
I simply CANNOT believe how atrocious that contrast is! That's embarrassing...
Glad they dropped the useless 3D. Is there really someone still watching 3D content ?
Still want 3D.