i have a over 9000k ZAH-IPS 300" monitor powered by an intel 17-9000000k with 2000 cores and a Nvidia titan 600 with 2tb of Vram and 9 million cuda cores. Whole thing only needs a AAA battery to run for an entire year
The average layman can't even comprehend 1080p yet. Heck, most "HD" TV channels only do 720p or 1080i or worse. Even knuckle-dragging "next-gen" console players haven't experienced 1080p.
recently got a proper ips 1080p monitor to replace my not great tn 900p monitor that was giving me headaches. while I was setting it up I noticed the 1080i option and I thought 'haven't I seen that resolution somewhere? didn't my ps3 use to run at that res in some games?' clicked it on and OH GOD THE BLUR. Immediete headache and switching back to 1080P
BumpahCarz the ps3 will only display 1080i if it is connected to a tv that supports 1080i as it's highest resolution. otherwise it would output 1080p to a full HD display, no game will default back to 1080i, a lot of games default back to 720p though. almost no games for the ps3 render at 1920x1080 anyway they are all upscaled after they have been renderd
Son of a Zombie misleading statement all the games I own on ps4 are rendered 1080p. sure not all the games that have been released do but its still better than the handful of games that render at 1080p on ps3/360.
I have a 4K monitor, and can view 8 mp images, watch 4k clips, play games in 4k and view google maps in 4k. 4K is already here and compared to any 1080P monitor I have owned I shall NEVER go back to full HD. 4K is stunning and immersive.
Tomskii5 well isn't TV as we know it going to disappear soon? I mean TV through internet cable is already common, we already have insane flexibility in how we set up, connect, and use our devices alone and combined, and as internet is only getting faster and cheaper, with some countries even offering 1000mb/s internet for a mere 20 bucks a month... I just can't imagine TV as we know it will still be popular 5 years from now, at least not in the more technologically advanced countries.
"We have consoles that cannot handle 1080P, we have TV providers struggling with 1080P, we have internet that struggles in streaming 1080P, so let's just add 14,515,200 more pixels." -Technology industry
Well there are many people like me who have internet connections that handle multiple 8k streams, and that use a pc for gaming, so yeah lets and more pixels
It's about progression and getting forward dawg. They can do nice things now,but a very small percentage of people can use them or pay for them. The more time you give it the better the chances of the technology improving/getting optimized and people being able to pay for it so it can become a standard. It's better this way than companies sitting on their asses eating chips all day.
I hardly ever comment on youtube but linus i just want to say thank you for all this coverage across the event. Have watched every video you have been posting across the last few days and its like i have been there. Keep it up.
LG OLED TV...LG is number 2 in TV..right behind its compatriot TV,and Giant electronics company, Samsung.. It's great to see LG and Samsung are pushing different technologies in TV..
WayStedYou there wont be an price nor an release. This is just one of those CES "just cause we can" products that arent intended to be released anytime soon.
I recently bought a LG 42LB6300 that used WebOS. It's pretty nice. WebOS is Linux-based with open-source components (if that is important to you). The remote communicates by radio instead of IR and has an on-screen pointer to use the menu system.
I never used anything other than LG monitors. I can't judge any other monitor brand I can definitely tell that LG monitors are great and I never had any problems with them. I never replaced one LG monitor with other because previous one broke down, I replaced them just for higher specifications (I am talking about at least 4 years of hard work before replacement and also after 4 years they are in pretty good shape). When it comes to displays (monitors or TVs) LG surely knows what they are doing.
8k QLED tvs (not OLED) are the future, but don't expect them to hit stores until 2021. You get the all the benefits of OLED (with potentially even better color and HDR) without the flaws like screen burn in, low life expectancy, motion blur/judder, and high price. Granted OLEDs will continue to improve in those areas but I believe QLED will be the favored technology.
Your videos are always top notch. I don't even both with other tech channels anymore, you hit every point that needs to be said and you move on. It's fantastic. No Buzz word bullshit.
This is approximately 359 PPI. So the TV has more pixels per square inch than Apple's retina display if I recall correctly. This dense PPI isn't only amazing for a TV but is pretty much standard in the handheld market as well.
I haven't seen a Oled tv set up correctly yet, but I am glad they are finally coming out with a replacement for Plasma. So far no led or lcd has topped a plasma.
Shorty06 The shutter speed will have been decreased not increased... and when you increase the shutter speed the image would appear darker not brighter. If you were to use a phantom slow motion camera to capture a subject in slow motion, the huge frame rates would require higher shutter speeds - because the higher the frame rate, the more frames need to be captured per second. Which is why you'll find the subject of a slow motion shot very well lit because the camera has less time to capture light per frame. In this case to correctly expose the image they unknowingly reduced the shutter speed past the frame rate they were shooting at, therefore the video appears choppy as the camera is unable to capture the correct number of frames per second. If they were shooting at 30fps they will have decreased the shutter speed past 1/30s. Hope that helps.
AnActualApple Oh yeah, my bad, that's what I meant. I just confused myself because when you decrease the shutter speed the exposure time you see displayed increases.
acutally linus displayport 1.3 is able to do 8k at 60 fps using 4:2:0 subsampling. sure it leads to 2 pixels of bleed but when you have 8k resultion you still endup with a much finer and better looking picture.
I bought my first oled tv ten years ago. It was made by Sony, was only 11 inches, and cost two and a half grand. It still has the most beautiful screen ever. Very excited to think larger ones are coming!
Hector Garcia More like, the same TV you already have. If you have already a nice HD TV, there is no point in buying another HD TV because they are both HD. Nothing more on software side, or better colour. All of these are scams to make us buy they same product that we have already. Tell them to fuck off...
First off that is very incorrect my 65 Inch plasma use between 250-450Watts Max. A refrigerator on average uses 500-800 Watts... So no plasma's do not use "More than a Refrigerator..." And second off I wasn't talking about a "Visibly brighter Picture..." I was talking about pure blacks... Because plasma the way Plasmas work they are able to produce pure blacks by simple not lighting certain cells. This is unlike LED's which use a bright light to blanket the whole back of the screen and thereby when they Emulate blacks small amount of light seeps through a creates more of a gray effect.
The only reason I mentioned it is because while I was watching this on my Tv I thought to myself "Wow those Tv's really has a sharp picture and rich tone..." Ironically enough though I realized seconds later how stupid that thought was as I am watching it on my Tv and as such the "Impressiveness" of those Tv's are actually the Impressiveness of my Tv... I thought it was ironic because I never really even paid attention to the Black levels before but looking at my LED monitors the difference is astronomical...
TrollFaceTheMan Aha, ok, 450 Watts is still a considerable amount of power. You could power an entire high-end computer setup with that much. OLED TVs don't even need half of that and produce a way brighter picture. Also, they weigh much less.
+Kinzoku Shirogane and not have to get the motor repaired on your TV 5 years from now because you all know that some day it will happen one side will work and the other won't and you'll have a half curved TV.
4k does look really good, and I have to say that 1080p even looks poo to me now. I used my brother's ROG Swift for an hour or two and now I want one, and video editing also feels really limited on my middle 1080p monitor.
also its not only the content, if you where to buy a larger monitor the upscaling would look horrible, imagine using 1080p on a very large monitor, its not just content but even your operating system itself.
CRT's are gone. SED was never born. "LED" killed the PDP star. Right now, we are pretty much stuck with gray. No black for you, petty consumer! mnnnhahahha!! And be sure to be "amazed" by the highest constrat consumer LCD's (VA), with a "whooping" 3000:1 contrast ratio! woha! And if you want best colors, IPS says 1000:1 ! Why would we sell Plasmas with native 5.000.000:1 contrast ratios anymore? Plasma is not sexy, not as much as "LED" (my friggin' god, it's just a backlight technique, not a panel type nor a new technology! but of course, the typical "i wan a good tv" mall shopper doesn't know that, so led, LED, LED!!!!). So please, PLEASE, OLED, come and save us from lacking screen technologies!
***** "terrible" is such a mean word. I can game pretty OK in a shitty LG low End plasma that i bought a couple of months ago. Yeah, it's not a monitor, but there werent any "gaming" PDP tv's, right? I can game much better in the plasma than in other TV i have, a two years old OKI LCD. Like, MUCH bettter, i'd say (and i'm talking about PC gaming). But OK, let's give you that, PDP's were not ideal for gaming. But for films, they were second to none. By a large margin, actually. Except if you watch films in fully lit rooms, wich most people dont do, anyway.
***** Exactly, and normal TV's, even a lot of the super expensive ones, have total input lag times that are closer to 50-60ms. I'm not a competitive gamer, but i've been playing in this CHEAP ASS plasma i bought (1080p, 50 inches, all for 350€ brand new), i play Borderlands, I've re-played Metro 2033 (what an experience compared to my 22 inch tn monitor... .With all those dark colors, PDP's really shine... or NOT shine LOL). and many other games, even some BF3 online, and i've not noticed too much lag, to be honest. It might not be as instanteneous as a CRT, but good enough for me.
***** C'mon, man, for gaming nothing beats a TN, but we all know how absolutely horrid they look. Well, you could play on a CRT, of course, but good luck finding a good one that still works well. But unless you are a Unreal/Quake/CS type of player, i think you can live with a little input lag, it's not the end of the world. I'd rather have a little more input lag, than blurring. And PDP's pixel response times are instantaneous, so blur is greatly reduced, sometimes, entirely eliminated.
The thing with OLED is that it will absolutely decimate the current market because of it's possibilities. To give you some ideas, OLED can be literally printed onto almost any material. After modifications to the surface, it can be printed onto walls, furniture, houses, vehicles... in theory you should be able to get an OLED tatoo (there already is concept for under-the-skin OLED implants). After OLED comes into mass production, at which point it will soon be cheaper to manufacture than the cheapest of LCD panbels, the concept of a box with a display panel in it will slowly begin to die.
Do you wonder what 8k looks like? Take a look at a 40 inch 4k tv. I'm writing this at 4k from a 40 inch tv and since 8k seems to come at only 80 inches or more, an 80 inch would be four 40 inch monitors at 4k. I do see the difference from my former 1080p monitor but then I'm sitting up close. Of course the grandness and impression of an 80 inch still has it's own wow factor apart from pixel peeping.
Time flies. I am watching this now and CES 2016 is coming up in 7 weeks time. I hope there are more manufacturers jumping onto the OLED bandwagon. OLED TV price level has gone down a lot and should become mainstream in two years.
TV for gaming = great if those that are looking yo get 1 look out for input lag and you're gold. i use a SONY 55" TV ,friggin sick and oh forgot it's the SONY KDL55-W800B
Ok it's a 8k about 70-80" tv with OLED (I don't know much about TVs), but I'm just sitting here, in awe just watching the tv turn from a flatscreen to a curve display. Like how tf does it do that?! I see no one else talking about it.
8k almost 100 inch tv is impractical. We all know the future is in projecting an image on a wall.. much like jake sully's tv in his cramped apartment.. projecting a big ass tv on a wall only requiring a small box. Much like that laser projector. If they can make the thing cost less, produce higher quality images than solid tv panel AND cost less... thats a lot of things to improve on.
The issue is that 8K is still pretty low in the resolution department. They need to come out with a proper 16K TV. That would allow you closer viewing, in addition to proper detail. Also given how modern anime is made, it would be easier to scale anime to 16K, thus further enhancing the anime experience.
This is how I always imagined ideal TVs/monitors. Little to no bezel with 21:9 aspect ratio & flexible enough to be curved with a push of a button (built-in electromotor) + high-res OLED panel on the inside. Since I believe OLEDs can be clocked to high refresh rates we could be finally getting something just as good for gaming purposes. Oh and by the way, how are whites when comparing high end OLEDs to LCDs?
i think a lot o people still need to adapt to 4k... 8k can wait honestly i still think sony has the upper hand on 4k with their architecture and features along with how the tvs have gotten thinner and are running android os now. plus theres a lot of people still wondering how useful 4k is for a standard and not everyone is willing to spend 3-25k on a tv, so why even focus on 8k sonty is ahead of everyone in my opinion especially with how they already have oled tvs and triboluminescent color displays for better picture quality
I work around 4k TV's alot at work, which is a best buy at the time of typing. I can just see people pawing at 8k TVs in disbelief that it's not a portal.
Even the lowest GPU that will be made in 2015 must support 4k no matter what and that goes to even the very low spec ones because GPU and CPU manufactures either like it or not 4K will be the new standard within 2015.
Now it's interesting to see this as it may advance us towards a holo deck type experience maybe? Our eyes though can only see so many pixels in reality so some of this is overkill.
4K TVs will be mainstream by 2020. They'll start picking up quickly during 2016-2018 because of the Olympics, but it won't be until 2020 during *the* Olympics when they will be fairly common with a share of roughly 15%. Considering NHK will be broadcasting already in 8K by that time, it will give 4K the proper push it needs. However, I still think that 4K TVs (or at least 4K channels) won't really do it. Everybody's waiting for 8K, which will be the real deal and most likely the end of the finish line so to speak. 4K is just a transition to get there.
8k TV's ask them to give you one and connect it to a octa-sli of Gtx980 and see how it works, we'll there in CES is working so it can be runned and with 980 I don't think it will be a problem
It is so interesting .. Plasma was literally attacked by everyone who bought a LED. Plasma offered "true black" ages ago, but is now gone and not being developed further. Plasma also had the refresh even this OLED is not close too; which is ironic as sports is a main reason many buy these TVs .. or ACTION movies. No wonder people with LED usually watch them from a distance. Anyway, it is great to see the "plasma benefits" are finally coming to the LED.
because unlike samsung, the investment done to produce OLED Panels was in machinery for tv panels, and samsung did it for smartphone panels, that is the difference Daniel.
Andres Izarra Thanks for the reply and clarification. But I read some where and it was mentioned that LG might supply the iPhone 8 with OLED panels and it was also rumoured that Xiaomi might get OLED panels from them. So I think they have the machinery but not the will to implement.
they can produce them at prices were they dont lose as long as they are a few units. i dont know if they are doing investment in panels for smartphones, but right now today the only ones able to produces such panels are samsung. and others like lg who might be able to make them just doing few units.
You say your biggest complaint is that people who aren't in the sweetspot have a distorted view...I don't see it. Personally, I don't have a curved tv, but my grandpa does and I watched it. No matter where I sat (unless I was on the side of the tv) I didn't even notice that it was curved. It just seems like a regular tv.
I have oled I kinda regret it, I rather just gotten a super bright led with good black levels. It's not the greatest for anime, but it is good for gaming. Not sure what's the obsession with getting a super dark black anyway. I only got because it looked really nice for 2k at bestbuy.
yey, 8k, so exciting... Am I the only one who remembers how in the NES era some games had as little as 100 vertical pixels, and it was enough to create an experience? If I'm not mistaken the gameboy color had 96 vertical pixels. Now we don't even have 1080p 60fps everywhere (consoles struggling, tv in 1080i or 1080p 30, etc); yet companies are pushing more and more pixeles that we will not even be able to see from a normal viewing distance.
I'm all about pushing the resolution of panels and what not by why bother producing these 8K screens when most media we consume isn't even up to 4K yet. I mean most TV is still in SD or not even full HD.
Wish laptops and desktop monitors would start using OLED. I do a lot of photo/video editing so It would be extremely useful. I know there's some oled computer monitors but they are at least around $5,000+ which is just too much moneys.
Here we are in 2015, and 4K hasn't even gotten a solid foothold on the market yet. Isn't it a little bit early to be showcasing 8K? I can only imagine how expensive it must be.
Whats up with the fps of this video? Seems very choppy, almost like im playing on a console.
Same, I was literally just thinking how cinematic it looks!
Is Ubisoft their new sponsor or something?
Blok Beton lol
could be that youtube is still processing on their side, but I have no clue in reality.
Blok Beton goeie XD
5:10 Looks like Robert was quite impressed xD
How come every old guy is named Robert/Bob??? :p it must be an inside joke to have a name change once you get to that sorta age.
Ethan NZ Just go and watch film "The Equalizer". You will know then why Robert.
I bet he is totally aware that he is in the frame but just stands there anyway just because he is old and knows it..
Ethan NZ
They killed everyone else their own age, it is covered up of course.
Impressed? He was goddamned dumbfounded. He's ready to ride that white chariot into infinity now.
Thats awesome that Bernie Sanders showed up at 5:20
I have a 10K ZLED and it's awesome but it displays
Minecraft at only 360p
;(
10K isn't a thing.
Brent Lane unless you own a hassleblad studio camera
i have a over 9000k ZAH-IPS 300" monitor powered by an intel 17-9000000k with 2000 cores and a Nvidia titan 600 with 2tb of Vram and 9 million cuda cores.
Whole thing only needs a AAA battery to run for an entire year
Dominic Warr Oh please... I have 8 Titans in crossfire. What a noob....
RGB League yeah. its all housed in a Corsair 1D. its only 1mm tall by 2mm wide and deep
8K display with 120FPS MASTER PC RACE!!!
no graphic card could handle 8k hahahaha
Reviews und Unboxings YT
in the future maybe :p
+Reviews und Unboxings YT 980Ti could handle minesweeper
+MegaChickenPunch Maybe pacman
+Reviews und Unboxings YT you might be able to play some really old games
The average layman can't even comprehend 1080p yet. Heck, most "HD" TV channels only do 720p or 1080i or worse.
Even knuckle-dragging "next-gen" console players haven't experienced 1080p.
recently got a proper ips 1080p monitor to replace my not great tn 900p monitor that was giving me headaches. while I was setting it up I noticed the 1080i option and I thought 'haven't I seen that resolution somewhere? didn't my ps3 use to run at that res in some games?' clicked it on and OH GOD THE BLUR. Immediete headache and switching back to 1080P
Haha so true
BumpahCarz the ps3 will only display 1080i if it is connected to a tv that supports 1080i as it's highest resolution. otherwise it would output 1080p to a full HD display, no game will default back to 1080i, a lot of games default back to 720p though. almost no games for the ps3 render at 1920x1080 anyway they are all upscaled after they have been renderd
jedixo just like next-gen. lol
Son of a Zombie misleading statement all the games I own on ps4 are rendered 1080p. sure not all the games that have been released do but its still better than the handful of games that render at 1080p on ps3/360.
4k is not really viable for several years imo and 8k certainly isn't
exactly. Not even all TV channels have switched to HD yet (and I'm hating that fact)
Technical advancements are never wrong, though, even if not viable yet.
I have a 4K monitor, and can view 8 mp images, watch 4k clips, play games in 4k and view google maps in 4k. 4K is already here and compared to any 1080P monitor I have owned I shall NEVER go back to full HD. 4K is stunning and immersive.
Tomskii5 well isn't TV as we know it going to disappear soon? I mean TV through internet cable is already common, we already have insane flexibility in how we set up, connect, and use our devices alone and combined, and as internet is only getting faster and cheaper, with some countries even offering 1000mb/s internet for a mere 20 bucks a month... I just can't imagine TV as we know it will still be popular 5 years from now, at least not in the more technologically advanced countries.
HazewinDog Very true. In my country the TV licence is higher than my broadband fee, so I watch TV online and any movie I want.
I love the old man that looks like he doesn't know where he is, in the background
"We have consoles that cannot handle 1080P, we have TV providers struggling with 1080P, we have internet that struggles in streaming 1080P, so let's just add 14,515,200 more pixels." -Technology industry
Well there are many people like me who have internet connections that handle multiple 8k streams, and that use a pc for gaming, so yeah lets and more pixels
It's about progression and getting forward dawg. They can do nice things now,but a very small percentage of people can use them or pay for them. The more time you give it the better the chances of the technology improving/getting optimized and people being able to pay for it so it can become a standard.
It's better this way than companies sitting on their asses eating chips all day.
Bruh, Google Fiber is the best.
I hardly ever comment on youtube but linus i just want to say thank you for all this coverage across the event. Have watched every video you have been posting across the last few days and its like i have been there. Keep it up.
Robert Cohen was shocked by that 8K TV :P
I was going to say the same thing :P That poor old dude was so lost. Someone find his grandsons to carry him home
+Gustavo Kaplon (GK) lmaoooo
LG OLED TV...LG is number 2 in TV..right behind its compatriot TV,and Giant electronics company, Samsung..
It's great to see LG and Samsung are pushing different technologies in TV..
8K? Lol that's cute. I'm here with my 120hz 16K monitor playing Crysis 3 at a stunning 16K with my 4x Titan Z SLI.
speaking of crysis 3, have you seen the 8k resolution screenshots of the game running at 8k? lol
Is this suppose to be sarcasm
The Raging Gamer
The joke
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your head
The Raging Gamer What an idiot for taking that guy seriously .Jesus fucking Christ
You can't 4 way sli a Titan Z it's a dual GPU card. That being said don't feed the troll.
I love the old dude in background at the end who's wandering around all confused like he's in Narnia.
Guy at 1:01 lol yeah just walk in between no worries.
like, wtf are you doing man? lol
Linus & Team,
Thank you so much for all the work you put into every video and please keep the videos coming. Really enjoying CES2015.... Thanks
The next level television is finally here. Now we just need the price to drop.
9,999 plus tax?
WayStedYou there wont be an price nor an release. This is just one of those CES "just cause we can" products that arent intended to be released anytime soon.
WayStedYou Honestly.... That wouldn't be that bad of a price for an 8k + curved + 70'' screen. x)
Linus, your coverage of CES is the best around! Thanks
storage technology is staying behind screens. how much would an 8k 30 min video in mega high resolution weigh? like 90GB?
I recently bought a LG 42LB6300 that used WebOS. It's pretty nice. WebOS is Linux-based with open-source components (if that is important to you). The remote communicates by radio instead of IR and has an on-screen pointer to use the menu system.
RIP framerate in this video
I never used anything other than LG monitors. I can't judge any other monitor brand I can definitely tell that LG monitors are great and I never had any problems with them. I never replaced one LG monitor with other because previous one broke down, I replaced them just for higher specifications (I am talking about at least 4 years of hard work before replacement and also after 4 years they are in pretty good shape). When it comes to displays (monitors or TVs) LG surely knows what they are doing.
$8k too...
dats cheap for such thing if it was really $8k lol
That's actually pretty cheap...
Srsly dude its cheap. Just think of dos TVs dat cost 10k plus
in Argentina a 1080 p TV is almost $7k
and a 4k 40 inch non smart TV would be like $20k
Finally you found a good transition to your sponsors ^^
You should totally pick up that 8k TV with your hands, Linus. Nothing bad will happen - except breaking it. But it's only an 8k TV. No problems here.
8k QLED tvs (not OLED) are the future, but don't expect them to hit stores until 2021. You get the all the benefits of OLED (with potentially even better color and HDR) without the flaws like screen burn in, low life expectancy, motion blur/judder, and high price. Granted OLEDs will continue to improve in those areas but I believe QLED will be the favored technology.
what should i buy a 4k ultra hd lg tv or xbox s
lol
probably the tv at least that way you can actually use it without having to pay fees on vital experience things
Your videos are always top notch. I don't even both with other tech channels anymore, you hit every point that needs to be said and you move on. It's fantastic. No Buzz word bullshit.
5:11 the guy on the right is like, duh it al looks the same to me, and where the hell am I anyway?!
The only CES coverage that teaches you the purpose of the product. Thanks Linus
hey robert cohen
Great guy! Love him! I wish Linus would bring him over the show.
This is approximately 359 PPI. So the TV has more pixels per square inch than Apple's retina display if I recall correctly. This dense PPI isn't only amazing for a TV but is pretty much standard in the handheld market as well.
Flexible TVs? wow, we really have some space-age technology today already.
I haven't seen a Oled tv set up correctly yet, but I am glad they are finally coming out with a replacement for Plasma. So far no led or lcd has topped a plasma.
Whats up with the quality in this video?
youtube processes it
Only up to around 1:30 the framerate and quality suck so its not youtube prossesing. It looks like it was taken on a phone.
Looks like the intro was shot in a darker room, so the shutter speed was increased to make the video brighter, sacrificing framerate.
Shorty06 The shutter speed will have been decreased not increased... and when you increase the shutter speed the image would appear darker not brighter.
If you were to use a phantom slow motion camera to capture a subject in slow motion, the huge frame rates would require higher shutter speeds - because the higher the frame rate, the more frames need to be captured per second. Which is why you'll find the subject of a slow motion shot very well lit because the camera has less time to capture light per frame.
In this case to correctly expose the image they unknowingly reduced the shutter speed past the frame rate they were shooting at, therefore the video appears choppy as the camera is unable to capture the correct number of frames per second. If they were shooting at 30fps they will have decreased the shutter speed past 1/30s.
Hope that helps.
AnActualApple Oh yeah, my bad, that's what I meant. I just confused myself because when you decrease the shutter speed the exposure time you see displayed increases.
acutally linus displayport 1.3 is able to do 8k at 60 fps using 4:2:0 subsampling. sure it leads to 2 pixels of bleed but when you have 8k resultion you still endup with a much finer and better looking picture.
I lost a little respect for you after knowing you own an iPhone 🙁
He reviews products for a living, switching between phones as daily drivers.
I bought my first oled tv ten years ago. It was made by Sony, was only 11 inches, and cost two and a half grand. It still has the most beautiful screen ever. Very excited to think larger ones are coming!
How many organs will i have to sell to be able to afford one of these beauties?
Hector Garcia just one I think a kidney on the black market goes for about $262,000 and liver is about $157,000.
*****
You can buy anything on the black market. If you were being serious i could probably get you a good deal on your liver.
*****
What did i say "0.0"
Hector Garcia More like, the same TV you already have. If you have already a nice HD TV, there is no point in buying another HD TV because they are both HD. Nothing more on software side, or better colour. All of these are scams to make us buy they same product that we have already. Tell them to fuck off...
***** Penis is worth nothing no matter what size. There isn't a penis transplant operation so it's worthless.
3:29 - scenes from Bulgaria!
Nice to see that
And I am just here on my Plasma like... Yep pure blacks and whatnot... XD
Who exactly is "He?"
Not everyone has the money to power a TV that consumes more energy than a fridge just to produce a visibly bright picture.
First off that is very incorrect my 65 Inch plasma use between 250-450Watts Max. A refrigerator on average uses 500-800 Watts...
So no plasma's do not use "More than a Refrigerator..."
And second off I wasn't talking about a "Visibly brighter Picture..." I was talking about pure blacks...
Because plasma the way Plasmas work they are able to produce pure blacks by simple not lighting certain cells. This is unlike LED's which use a bright light to blanket the whole back of the screen and thereby when they Emulate blacks small amount of light seeps through a creates more of a gray effect.
The only reason I mentioned it is because while I was watching this on my Tv I thought to myself
"Wow those Tv's really has a sharp picture and rich tone..."
Ironically enough though I realized seconds later how stupid that thought was as I am watching it on my Tv and as such the "Impressiveness" of those Tv's are actually the Impressiveness of my Tv...
I thought it was ironic because I never really even paid attention to the Black levels before but looking at my LED monitors the difference is astronomical...
TrollFaceTheMan
Aha, ok, 450 Watts is still a considerable amount of power. You could power an entire high-end computer setup with that much.
OLED TVs don't even need half of that and produce a way brighter picture.
Also, they weigh much less.
3:28 That cathedral on the background is called Alexander Nevski and is located in the center of Sofia, Bulgaria.
Sure that flexible oled TV is great but......you know......i'd rather have a car....
+Kinzoku Shirogane this actually made me laugh. GG
+Kinzoku Shirogane and not have to get the motor repaired on your TV 5 years from now because you all know that some day it will happen one side will work and the other won't and you'll have a half curved TV.
Wow, you are awesome, really enjoy watching you !!!
the frame rates of the video are terrible
went into bestbuy yesterday and saw a curved tv. Watched it for a few minuts and it is way better than flat it actually does surround you.
Blah 8k there isn't much 4k content never mind higher resolutions seems like a waste. I keep my 1920x1080p
stick your 1920x1080 on a 52" monitor, yeah looks shit doesnt it
4k does look really good, and I have to say that 1080p even looks poo to me now. I used my brother's ROG Swift for an hour or two and now I want one, and video editing also feels really limited on my middle 1080p monitor.
+Кристопер влалимир Алехандер Армстронг Where can I buy one in your country please lol
also its not only the content, if you where to buy a larger monitor the upscaling would look horrible, imagine using 1080p on a very large monitor, its not just content but even your operating system itself.
Killa Kook I got one
thats actually what i think of, why you need to activate any pixel when you want a deeper black, turn it out,case close
CRT's are gone. SED was never born. "LED" killed the PDP star. Right now, we are pretty much stuck with gray. No black for you, petty consumer! mnnnhahahha!! And be sure to be "amazed" by the highest constrat consumer LCD's (VA), with a "whooping" 3000:1 contrast ratio! woha! And if you want best colors, IPS says 1000:1 ! Why would we sell Plasmas with native 5.000.000:1 contrast ratios anymore? Plasma is not sexy, not as much as "LED" (my friggin' god, it's just a backlight technique, not a panel type nor a new technology! but of course, the typical "i wan a good tv" mall shopper doesn't know that, so led, LED, LED!!!!). So please, PLEASE, OLED, come and save us from lacking screen technologies!
***** "terrible" is such a mean word. I can game pretty OK in a shitty LG low End plasma that i bought a couple of months ago. Yeah, it's not a monitor, but there werent any "gaming" PDP tv's, right? I can game much better in the plasma than in other TV i have, a two years old OKI LCD. Like, MUCH bettter, i'd say (and i'm talking about PC gaming). But OK, let's give you that, PDP's were not ideal for gaming. But for films, they were second to none. By a large margin, actually. Except if you watch films in fully lit rooms, wich most people dont do, anyway.
***** Exactly, and normal TV's, even a lot of the super expensive ones, have total input lag times that are closer to 50-60ms. I'm not a competitive gamer, but i've been playing in this CHEAP ASS plasma i bought (1080p, 50 inches, all for 350€ brand new), i play Borderlands, I've re-played Metro 2033 (what an experience compared to my 22 inch tn monitor... .With all those dark colors, PDP's really shine... or NOT shine LOL). and many other games, even some BF3 online, and i've not noticed too much lag, to be honest. It might not be as instanteneous as a CRT, but good enough for me.
***** C'mon, man, for gaming nothing beats a TN, but we all know how absolutely horrid they look. Well, you could play on a CRT, of course, but good luck finding a good one that still works well. But unless you are a Unreal/Quake/CS type of player, i think you can live with a little input lag, it's not the end of the world. I'd rather have a little more input lag, than blurring. And PDP's pixel response times are instantaneous, so blur is greatly reduced, sometimes, entirely eliminated.
The thing with OLED is that it will absolutely decimate the current market because of it's possibilities.
To give you some ideas, OLED can be literally printed onto almost any material. After modifications to the surface, it can be printed onto walls, furniture, houses, vehicles... in theory you should be able to get an OLED tatoo (there already is concept for under-the-skin OLED implants).
After OLED comes into mass production, at which point it will soon be cheaper to manufacture than the cheapest of LCD panbels, the concept of a box with a display panel in it will slowly begin to die.
CanIHasThisName
What is going to happen is that OLED will be rolled out onto a wall. It will be a lighting system and TV all rolled into one.
Do you wonder what 8k looks like? Take a look at a 40 inch 4k tv. I'm writing this at 4k from a 40 inch tv and since 8k seems to come at only 80 inches or more, an 80 inch would be four 40 inch monitors at 4k. I do see the difference from my former 1080p monitor but then I'm sitting up close. Of course the grandness and impression of an 80 inch still has it's own wow factor apart from pixel peeping.
Time flies. I am watching this now and CES 2016 is coming up in 7 weeks time. I hope there are more manufacturers jumping onto the OLED bandwagon. OLED TV price level has gone down a lot and should become mainstream in two years.
TV for gaming = great if those that are looking yo get 1 look out for input lag and you're gold. i use a SONY 55" TV ,friggin sick and oh forgot it's the SONY KDL55-W800B
I hope 8k TVs will be in the world market before the year 2020.
Ok it's a 8k about 70-80" tv with OLED (I don't know much about TVs), but I'm just sitting here, in awe just watching the tv turn from a flatscreen to a curve display. Like how tf does it do that?! I see no one else talking about it.
8k almost 100 inch tv is impractical. We all know the future is in projecting an image on a wall.. much like jake sully's tv in his cramped apartment.. projecting a big ass tv on a wall only requiring a small box. Much like that laser projector. If they can make the thing cost less, produce higher quality images than solid tv panel AND cost less... thats a lot of things to improve on.
The issue is that 8K is still pretty low in the resolution department. They need to come out with a proper 16K TV. That would allow you closer viewing, in addition to proper detail. Also given how modern anime is made, it would be easier to scale anime to 16K, thus further enhancing the anime experience.
This is how I always imagined ideal TVs/monitors. Little to no bezel with 21:9 aspect ratio & flexible enough to be curved with a push of a button (built-in electromotor) + high-res OLED panel on the inside. Since I believe OLEDs can be clocked to high refresh rates we could be finally getting something just as good for gaming purposes.
Oh and by the way, how are whites when comparing high end OLEDs to LCDs?
When did video get so, so very complicated.
i think a lot o people still need to adapt to 4k... 8k can wait honestly i still think sony has the upper hand on 4k with their architecture and features along with how the tvs have gotten thinner and are running android os now. plus theres a lot of people still wondering how useful 4k is for a standard and not everyone is willing to spend 3-25k on a tv, so why even focus on 8k sonty is ahead of everyone in my opinion especially with how they already have oled tvs and triboluminescent color displays for better picture quality
I work around 4k TV's alot at work, which is a best buy at the time of typing.
I can just see people pawing at 8k TVs in disbelief that it's not a portal.
AWESOME LINUSTEAM!!!
Even the lowest GPU that will be made in 2015 must support 4k no matter what and that goes to even the very low spec ones because GPU and CPU manufactures either like it or not 4K will be the new standard within 2015.
Now it's interesting to see this as it may advance us towards a holo deck type experience maybe? Our eyes though can only see so many pixels in reality so some of this is overkill.
This is one of Linus' tests to see if viewers can actually tell the difference in quality.
4K TVs will be mainstream by 2020. They'll start picking up quickly during 2016-2018 because of the Olympics, but it won't be until 2020 during *the* Olympics when they will be fairly common with a share of roughly 15%. Considering NHK will be broadcasting already in 8K by that time, it will give 4K the proper push it needs. However, I still think that 4K TVs (or at least 4K channels) won't really do it. Everybody's waiting for 8K, which will be the real deal and most likely the end of the finish line so to speak. 4K is just a transition to get there.
We are already experiencing diminishing returns with 4k. Do you really think 8k is necessary for consumer home products?
we still have crt tv in our house and never turn it on
I just ordered 3 of those 8K's for tripple monitor surround to go with my GTX670, I know, Winning right!?!?!
8k TV's ask them to give you one and connect it to a octa-sli of Gtx980 and see how it works, we'll there in CES is working so it can be runned and with 980 I don't think it will be a problem
That epic music finishes it all
Yes, he can see pixels that way. I've tested on a 4K TV and the pixels look gigantic. 8K is just 4K multiplied by 4.
It is so interesting .. Plasma was literally attacked by everyone who bought a LED. Plasma offered "true black" ages ago, but is now gone and not being developed further. Plasma also had the refresh even this OLED is not close too; which is ironic as sports is a main reason many buy these TVs .. or ACTION movies. No wonder people with LED usually watch them from a distance. Anyway, it is great to see the "plasma benefits" are finally coming to the LED.
Did you know Phantom Glass make the best darn scrren protectors out there? I do know its stuck in my head for life!
Very well guys mind-blowing.....
The video demo in this coverage looks good on my LCD IPS.
Just a question:
Why is LG so good in TV's and then their phones are not adopting OLED which seems to be the reason why people prefer Samsung over LG.
because unlike samsung, the investment done to produce OLED Panels was in machinery for tv panels, and samsung did it for smartphone panels, that is the difference Daniel.
Andres Izarra Thanks for the reply and clarification. But I read some where and it was mentioned that LG might supply the iPhone 8 with OLED panels and it was also rumoured that Xiaomi might get OLED panels from them. So I think they have the machinery but not the will to implement.
they can produce them at prices were they dont lose as long as they are a few units. i dont know if they are doing investment in panels for smartphones, but right now today the only ones able to produces such panels are samsung. and others like lg who might be able to make them just doing few units.
oh my god! it changes flat to curve and 8k is looking greatest that's why i love LG most
I do not know why, but the framerate is very cinematic...
This video was shot @20 fps,nice job guys,keep it up!
You say your biggest complaint is that people who aren't in the sweetspot have a distorted view...I don't see it. Personally, I don't have a curved tv, but my grandpa does and I watched it. No matter where I sat (unless I was on the side of the tv) I didn't even notice that it was curved. It just seems like a regular tv.
How well does the GTX 980 run 8K? I imagine if 4K hindered performance, 8K would be ACU at launch level frame rates.
For a real viewing experience watch in 480p.
8k gaming will be great Just need 4x sli 1280ti's and your good to go :)
This video has the best background extras
Fast forward into the future, people are talking about 16K resolution and 1080p is their version of 480p. In a sense of trendiness.
I have oled I kinda regret it, I rather just gotten a super bright led with good black levels. It's not the greatest for anime, but it is good for gaming. Not sure what's the obsession with getting a super dark black anyway. I only got because it looked really nice for 2k at bestbuy.
Did this video seem choppy to anyone else?
I like Linus pointing at the "grey" screen which because of my monitor looks the same as the OLED
This is truly beautiful
Man Robert has officially seen the future.
yey, 8k, so exciting...
Am I the only one who remembers how in the NES era some games had as little as 100 vertical pixels, and it was enough to create an experience? If I'm not mistaken the gameboy color had 96 vertical pixels.
Now we don't even have 1080p 60fps everywhere (consoles struggling, tv in 1080i or 1080p 30, etc); yet companies are pushing more and more pixeles that we will not even be able to see from a normal viewing distance.
i want a 21:9 3440x1440 OLED curved monitor with 10 bit colour, 144hz and g-sync/freesync..
is that too much to ask for?
98" 8K in terms of pixel density is the same as a 48" 4K TV or a 1080p 24" Monitor. That's quite impressive.
I'm all about pushing the resolution of panels and what not by why bother producing these 8K screens when most media we consume isn't even up to 4K yet. I mean most TV is still in SD or not even full HD.
5:23 Guy is completely zoned out then realized hes being filmed lol.
5:20 Grandpa's mind implodes. Haha
that was great. you dissed the guy without even breaking a sweat.
Yeah, I really love IPS panel.
Did you guys film in 10fps?
im amazed that so many people get so close to linus and not one trys to hug him (thats my dream)
Wish laptops and desktop monitors would start using OLED. I do a lot of photo/video editing so It would be extremely useful. I know there's some oled computer monitors but they are at least around $5,000+ which is just too much moneys.
Here we are in 2015, and 4K hasn't even gotten a solid foothold on the market yet. Isn't it a little bit early to be showcasing 8K? I can only imagine how expensive it must be.