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Lol, I keep testing as INTP, but I feel like I'm much more empathetic than the INTP 'stereotype', so I've been like "I care about other people's opinions / I'm not that smart, it just comes naturally / I can't do anything right oh man I suck everyone hates me / I DO help people" for years, and everyone I know who's into MBTI keeps telling me I am the most INTP person they know. Now I finally understand why. Thanks for another great video.
My best friend's an INTP and she's much more caring, helpful and even affectionate than the stereotype, even more so than me sometimes and I'm an INFP, we're supposed to be all huggy and sensitive. I think that this has been effected a lot by the environments we were raised in. My family don't really show any emotion but her family are very social and affectionate. Learnt behaviours? Maybe. She's still very INTP, though. We are lazy together, lol. Love you INTPs!
Either my INTP was a mistyping, or I’m just really lazy, procrastinate, live in my head, have trouble following social interactions and like to read up about the most impractical stuffs.
Really liking your approach to MBTI and going deep into your new insights. It’s pretty interesting to see how much you can break down the functions and recognize other people’s ‘saviors’ and ‘demons.’ Definitely gives a whole new spin. Especially when there’s plenty of empty holes that still need to be filled within MBTI.
You just described my first attempts at trying to type myself. I swore I was an ISFP because, now that I think about it, I really wanted to be a cool uncommon introvert in the real world. Took my three weeks (and a ton of help from my INTP hubby) to realize I am totally an ENFJ :/
...So you're saying that, since I constantly mouth on and on about who I am and what I stand for, I might just be bullshitting and have no idea of who I am as a person? ...you know what that could be very true.
Demon Si - im so precise and know FACTS Demon Se - i am such a bad ass Demon Ni - i understand the universe, everything’s connected Demon Ne - i’m so spontanioues and silly Demon Ti - i think Demon Te - Hey, i’m in charge, i have so much people below me!!! Demon Fi - i’m so unique Demon Fe - i’am good with people
@@victoiremvl No... Fi is my primary. Of course I'm weird and unique, duh. Silliness also not a problem. My demon is the 'look at me, I know how to make a career and buy a bug house'.
My biggest insecurity is my look and when someone tells me I am a coward. At some point I also went out of my way to look «unique» by trying to always go against the flow even if I didnt necessarly like it. I suppose this would be Se and Fi demon I could also have Si demon issues as well so not sure btw Se and Si which one I got
Another 10/10 vid - I'm loving this non-function specific stuff i.e peacocking, demons/saviour tidal waves etc - it's adding a very welcomed 3D aspect to typology - a holistic approach - so much better than purely defining the functions etc. Loving the classes as well. Keep up the good work - it's all a huge breath of fresh air, imo, can't get enough.
I totally relate to this as an INFP. I saw this show that had a really good strategic mastermind and was trolling people to observe how they react as a hobby, and I thought; I really wanna be like him.... then I’ve been wasting like years chasing that. You know Te demon..
Izu mi It’s an anime if you like that, and it’s called durarara;) just promise me you won’t try to chase becoming like the protagonist(Izaya) strategy is not really Infp’s strength you know...
Izu mi Ohh, you’ve watched it too:D ikr I loove Izaya too and Shizou, don’t worry I’ve watched the entire series, and Mikado in the last season is badass😎
You have fantastic insight into typology and express it concisely and humorously. I’ve just been laughing my ass off listening to these and learning a lot of new stuff.
So I think I'm an ENTP and I'm actually pretty sure of it even though I have doubted me being an ENTP for a loooong time (I was torn between INTP and ENTP). Tbh this video makes me doubt myself all over again. But then again your theory of Si/Ni = organising really supports the thesis of me being an ENTP since I'm absolute shit at organising things and don't find pleasure organising stuff whatsoever. I also feel like structure and organisation limits me in a way because it often involves decision-making and I consider myself to be a really spontaneous and indecisive person (Actually, I'm the definition of indecisiveness). I mean I'm not dumb (or at least I hope so), I can see the benefits of things being organised but I just can't do it.
To me (an ENFP) who is someone who has been watching all of Dave's videos, engraving the concepts behind his theories into my brain because of how effective it is compared to other methods I have seen. Based on your comment, I'd say your an ENTP. Your quality of being indecisive, trait of the lead observer types (Ne/Se), and I'd say your definitely not an IxxP type given that they're human needs fear is in alignment with their identities not fitting in with that tribe, where in contrast with ExxJ they're more so in fear of their own identities, because they don't know how they will fit I'm the tribe. Given how you openly express your thoughts on how much you dislike organizing, I'd say your definitely in the ExxP category, since our human need fear is control. More so, being in a setting that does not allow us to be ourselves. ExxP tend to thrive in chaos, in contrast to IxxJ who fear chaos, and crave so much to have everything in order and in their control. Given all that. Based off the types you presented, I'd say your most likely an ENTP.
Of course. All of that will be false if your comment was a display of your types peacocking effect. I've struggled very much in trying to type myself. For a long time o truly thought I was an INFP, until I start seeing how the function stack work, then realized how much of an ENFP I truly am. After that point I still didn't understand the entire concepts of cognitive functions and for a moment I thought I was an ENTP. One of my close friends is an ENTP, and after I found that out, I really start comparing and contrasting how we process information, and seeing where we gained our energy as well as what drained our energy. The difference in us is that my second and third functions are Fi-Te and his are Ti-Fe, and we both share lead Ne, and inferior Si. We process information very similarly, in fact exactly the same. Our judgments very similar in nature, but not the same in practicality, which is usually expressed in how we communicate what's meaningful to us through our. Fi or Ti
Ok... but how do you type the person who knows what they suck at? Not everyone is peacocking their demon function, some of us are well aware we suck at it.
pamelam4 honestly this is why I get annoyed with teens who are trying to type themselves sometimes. They can't figure out their type *because* they're young and don't know themselves that well. And subsequently they claim they obviously use every function equally. Yah ok 👌
I would be one of those people who doesn't really care to "peacock" my weaker points, & would rather cater to the natural strengths that I know make me "me". But I'm not young (almost 39), have always been rather self-reflecting in nature (moreso now--with more independence & life experience to reflect on--compared to when I was), and have been officially & consistently typed by other admins, career recruiters, and certified counselors & therapists as the same type that I, myself, identify as (but likely wouldn't have in my much more self-insecure adolescent years): a "high Si" INTP type (after initial confusion for most of them trying to assess if I might be ISTP).
You mentioned that INFJs commonly mistype as ENTPs and that made me perk way up. That's the exact dilemma I've been going through, and yet there seems so few people anywhere that seems to be asking this question! I would love and episode on this, or perhaps common mistypes, or peacocking as the opposite of your main functional axis, wherever the most interesting pattern is there...
Good insight! How the cognitive functions manifest really reflects the fact that personality consists of what we aspire to do AND what we actually do (think of personality sorting into Hogwarts Houses in Harry Potter-- students are sorted into the Houses based on their personalities, so the sorting process takes into account BOTH the student's values and actual behavior)
So... how do I figure out if I'm bull shitting with myself about my own type? Like what if I take a test and get ENTP and I'm like "wow that's really cool, I'm gonna own that" even though I was really like an isfj or something so then I start really focusing on Ne and Ti and consciously repress Si and Fe to the point where my demons are now my saviors and my saviors that were tossed aside grow to reset me and make a satanic pact to become demons? If I'm always now consciously USING my once-demon functions all the time, and BELIEVING that my demon functions are in fact my saviors, and I'm smart enough to actually use my demon functions well despite them being my demons, then what? Have I morphed into a new type?
Your comment was all over the place which shows me good o'l messy Ne rather then Si, guided by personal logic. From there I'm kind of taking a leap of faith by betting on INTP instead of ENTP. But hey, Dave has a website where you can find out for sure if you really wanted to
Super old comment I know, but I had the exact same problem. It seems like a never ending paradox to me. WHEN DO WE KNOW? I've gone around thinkig I'm an INFJ for god knows how long, but realised that my Fe might be something that I learned in my teens. I LITERALLY READ BOOKS about how to VALIDATE and INTERACT with other humans.Watched videos. Ran scenarios in my head. Like I approached it in a very rational manner, and I was so thrilled when my strategies on how to behave payed off. It's not like I didn't care about others before, I just didn't know how to approach it. Now I do, and if I say so myself, I've gotten real good at it. I've managed to learn how to hold emotional space for people to the point that I'm more often than not the go-to person to call for emotional support in a circle of friends. Now my Fe can almost appear as savoir (at least to me), but I honestly don't know. I might be ENTP. Everything is chaos.
So interesting! I am an INFP, but I thought of what you said about mistaking and possibly being an ENFJ. I think in my early 20s I was a lot more extraverted because I wanted that validation. But as I got older I became self assured and more introverted. I am pretty sure I am an INFP though. One of my biggest problems in past relationships was not giving my time to the other person. In your INFP video you mentioned that is our struggle. Why do we have such a hard time with that? I guess we are selfish. Which is so funny because I bet INFPs think of themselves as not selfish at all and good people inside. I remember my mom told me once though that if I don't want to do something then I won't do it, and it is pretty true!
I used to mistype as ENFP because of the 'peacocking', I wanted to socialize but was too shy and lacked the courage, I wanted to be a nice person just so I'd feel accepted
As an ENFP, as well as a person whose is trying to go out in the world typing people using objective personality's methodology (because after having have done so much NE exploring looking through many other different sites and videos, in attempts understand cognitive functions [no thanks to mbti] through my Fi I concludes that Objective Personality has PROVEN to have provided the best system for typing others) I figure for ENFPs we won't really have a problem with determining when others are peacocking (which is a very nice way to put it) their demons. I think this is due to how we crave for that feeling of connecting with people. More so individuals. But in the process of doing so we may sometimes get annoyed or be irritated by when people display face-value behavior or having to go through small talk due to whatever factors causes for them to be such ways. This in turn can come off to other people as someone who ask a lot of questions, or are "too much into their business". So in other words it's very easy for us to tell when people are being "fake", or not "authentic to themselves" because at the end of the day we want them to be themselves to the fullest. I'd like for other ENFPs to chime in on this and express if they feel that's the case for them as well so ik I'm not just coming to complete subjective Fi conclusion about it. I encourage people of other types to express if it's that easy for them as well, or is more difficult for y'all than I implied.
Espee personally, I think ENFPs are one of the few types that are more likely to be very self aware about what they present to the world vs. what they're really about. So if they do peacock, they are more likely to do it consciously than other types (who unintentionally deceive others because they're also deceiving themselves). If an ENFP happens to feel insecure about being inauthentic because they habitually "put on a show", then if they dislike that they themselves sometimes knowingly engage in peacocking behavior, then they're more likely to recognize the behavior in others and (either consciously or subconsciously) feel irritated if they're projecting their self-directed frustration. This probably isn't exclusive to ENFPs, but I suspect ENFPs could have this problem. Also think it would depend on how self aware the ENFP is. I think what's implied in this video is that usually people who peacock do it unknowingly, but I guess I think it would manifest differently for people who are either hyper self-aware, or particularly aware of this particular habit (in themselves or others). I don't know my type; just going solely off my intuition and it could be way off base. Maybe that's a sign I have weak intuition haha. What are your thoughts as an ENFP?
This video makes sense. Though again what about those who try to be honest when answering questions? I used to get INFP until real life proved I am not a random idea generator. I don't prefer to make decisions on my personal values only and certainly not as the leading decider. (have seen it done in a negative light and seen the cause effect of that) I do generate ideas that seem random, but they have a focus, and they lead back to some bigger idea, whether I am aware of the connection or not. My thinking tends to be towards cause to effect, then switch the cause to see another effect. Then compare effects to see, can I have different causes to lead to the same effect? Or if the effects branch out, how may they come together? It can be logical or emotional. I can visualize how, say fighting and losing a major battle would effect a soldier character psychologically and lead to healthy vs. unhealthy coping mechanisms. Then zoom out to imagine how other characters may react to his behavior. Then plot out from there what may happen. It gets very detailed. I can do thought jumping, but if I think back and reflect I can go backwards in time to see a general idea how I shifted from one topic to another, for example, how I may have gotten from reading a wikipedia page about Llamas to reading an article related to American History. I wish I could have help finding people to figure out if I am correctly typing myself INFJ, but I haven't found people interested in MBTI to evaluate it, both for themselves and for me. So it's either self typing or the internet....neither being totally reliable. Another one I've pondered over is ENFJ, but I am not sure if I am extroverted enough and Fe focused as much as I am focused on my imagination. INTJ is another one I've thought of too, maybe inferior Fi, but it seems when I am in a good mood, I focus on how my statements may be taken, thus feel like checking myself if I have something critical to say. (though I may think it and desire to be more direct.)
Bug Folk I wonder if we share the same type (because I've never identified so much with a UA-cam comment). If you have a more concrete idea by now, I'd love to chat with you 1-on-1! I'm having the same hard time self-typing.
Bug Folk Bug Folk I feel like I’m having the exact same kind of problem as you, but I’ve been consistently typed now as an INTJ. So there’s either a slight subtlety in how we process our feelings to make you an INFJ or you could actually be an INTJ such as myself. If you read this comment I’d love to hear about your thoughts and reflections as well! (My friend said you can tell I’m an INTJ by trying to appeal to your feelings in exchange for information, so I guess if you do that a lot then you’re definitely the same as me XD )
Hmmm wow yeah this was really affirming!!! I spent a lot of time saying I was an INFJ, but I've been doing some homework and think I'm actually an ENTP. I would say things like "yeah im really good at organizing." Or "yeah I really feel a strong vision for one direction life." But yeah right!!! That's a lie straight from the pit of hell! I occasionally get on organizing kicks that give me kind of a high, but on a day-to-day basis, I have to fight against my own nature to stay organized. And one singular vision in life that I'm passionate about??? Heck no. I've had a hard time figuring out what to do with life because at the end of the day I really DON'T know what I want to do because there are TOO MANY things I could see myself doing. I thought I cared deeply about a few ideas, but I'm actually obsessed with exploring new and different ideas.
I’m not sure where these people are being tested but I was typed by a professional trainer, specifically authorized to test adults and children with the MBTI. It changed my life. As soon as I listened to her explain INTJ (I’m a woman) I 100% understood why I never felt like I fit in except at college and why it was really hard to squash the feeling I’m right bc I “see” it so clearly. Being a woman INTJ feels really awkward to me sometimes bc it rarely occurs to me I maybe wrong. 🙄😋 The only time I felt like I fit in at a job was when I worked at a nuclear plant with 99.9% men. No drama. Very little BS IMHO. Thank you for sharing these videos. I just found you guys and I love your channel. 🙌🥰😎
Gotta say I feel the point made it the video is quite a valuable one (also not just intps) The first time I tested mbti i got entp with 51% extravert, yet I felt I was far more 'introverted' and shy. Yet last times it's been vise versa. I found entp/intp are quite similar and I now feel more like an entp even of I score intp with 51% or more introvertion. In hindsight such grey areas make much more sense considering the peacock effect. But it sorta adds to that in the end it doesn't matter; it's not what you think you're supposed to be, but about how you can express yourself best as a person and learn from the personality types as a compass rather than an absolute truth. Who knows what you can learn from trying out different approaches opposite to your personity, instead of adhering to a type. You'll still be the same person but with more understanding and even more space for growth.
I gotta say, I (an INFJ) didn't ever come remotely close to thinking I was an EP, or wanting to be one. the MBTI test typed me as an INFP sometimes, and I typed myself as INTP first, then INFP, and finally INFJ, firstly because of the "traits" ( door slam, social chameleon etc.) and secondly the cognitive functions. I was 50 when I got into MBTI, so maybe I was more developed and tried to be more objective. I must say i admire some EP qualities because I'm so lacking in that department.
Same happened to me. I don't know if I'm actually infj, I feel infp sometimes but my most likely biased logic points to infj. I was reading estp descriptions and I had a sense of "I want to be that not me" so maybe I typed myself right, or maybe I only think that because I've seen this video too confirm I'm infj. I really don't know anything but I guess that's okay. Humans are so easily persuaded and maybe I've just been persuaded that I'm not who I really am. Sometimes I think it's better to ditch this whole system as to not possibly get attached to a concept
There's a better way to look at it. Compare the cognitive functions hierarchy to the Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Everyone thrives towards satisfying their tertiary/inferior functions; dominant/auxiliary functions being their basic needs. People actually _do_ care about satisfying their inferior function, but it's down the pecking order; the dominant functions have priority.
So that's why I thought I was INTP and I related to Ti I was like oh yeah I use logic and have ideas. Yeah I'm really perceiver and cool. But something wasn't right. After lots of research I found I'm INFJ but I was rejecting my Fe side and I was insecure about my Ti-Se. And I didn't notice I'm really judging.
This video made me feel - angry, understood, mindblown, sad, disappointed and self-loathing. anyways I started crying.. GOD I am such peacocker! This sucks. I really wish I am not an INFP. but i realized it is so true.. so many nights I spend time thinking that I should do more for the world, more for the people, start something BIG to help others and make an impact and just do more to not be just a waste of O2 in this world. But then when the day comes I just am in my usual state, just learning new stuff, doing what I like but rarely taking any real action. I wish I didn't have Fi because I don't want to be selfish. I really really don't. I would really appreciate if you could make a video someday maybe about how to develop Te. It would tremendously help. I am thankful for what you guys are doing.
This is fab information! :) I like your rational approach to this issue and your analysis is cognitively and psychologically sound. I've been looking into the phenomenon of "mistyping" for about a year, because my own MBTI and function test results were not OBJECTIVELY sensible to me, while the enneagram ones were more consistent. There is this almost "common" agreement among Type theories commenters/YTbers that people who mistype do so on purpose, to boost their ego. But they never really addressed the MECHANICS of this phenomenon from the perspectives of "function dominance : contradictory behaviours". You just did and explained it with a fairly straightforward (non-judgemental) language. One question though. Do we ONLY do this for the sake of our ego, while in society, or do is it some unconsciously private yearning that we all have in order to cater to our inferior/shadow functions? I know that Jung has said a lot on this subject through his explorations of archetypes, but for individuality to be defined, there has to be some form of resistance to social constructs. Would you say that our weak functions and top shadow functions help in fleshing out that resistance while flushing out the fear from our system?
Interesting. When I did the Myer's Briggs test first I got INTJ and I was very interested in what this meant. Down the line I realized I'm actually an INTP and well now it all makes sense. I was trying so hard in college to manage my time and work how a studious and diligent student would so I had to develop some Te. Now that I'm on a break however I look back my time before college and I realize I'm really better at using Ti and Ne. Even now it feels more natural to use them. Thanks for this video though it helped me understand this a bit more.
Bloodyhell after scouring the internet and multiple of @objectivepersonality’s vids I finally have my confirmation on what type I actually am! 🙌🏽 That INFJ ↔️ ENTP prediction blew my mind as I have scored INFJ 2/3 times I took the Myers-Briggs test 🤯
Either way, tribe validation seems to be your core conflict in life. The true question here is whether you feel more comfortable alone and learning things, ditching the tribe. Or if you are more comfortable out in the world, integrating with the tribe.
@@CaveyMoth as far as i've learned from Dave and Shannon, it's not entirely only that. They use to say that not every extrovert likes people, and vice versa not every introvert is misanthropic, it may even depend from past experiences. If the "Extroverted Single Decider" has not found his tribe yet, he/she can look like an introverted
This makes me think of an enfp friend of mine who keeps telling everyone how analytical he is, that that's how his brain just works. Tbh it never even occured to me before how strange it was for him to be saying that
I've seen videos on how the different MBTI types operate when "in the grip" (i.e., when they are extremely stressed and thus operate or even process information in ways that don't necessarily come naturally to them). I would love to see a video that addresses whether that sort of phenomenon is legitimate and if so, whether it could even cause someone to mistype themselves (or be mistyped by others). For example, if an INFJ or INTJ (types that should have more balanced decider functions) receives seemingly invalidatable negative feedback that shakes their whole self-image, could a resultant identity crisis cause them to obsess over their identity? Then if they try to type themselves, could that negatively impact their ability to gauge which cognitive functions are their saviors vs. demons? I suspect anyone undergoing an identity crisis in such a situation should then steer clear of self-typing. Does that make sense to anyone? Anyone else ever experienced this? Or am I just a depressed EJ who is in denial?
I am a 100% confirmed ENTP but it took digging to confirm that. When I was 14 I took the 16personalities test because a friend suggested it. I got ISTP but everything was like 50%. Not much of it resonated with me but I just accepted it for some reason but didn't think it was a very big deal. 3 years later I was curious about it and took it again and got ISTJ. The only part that was confident was thinking. Again i didnt think much about it. Then when I was 18 I decided to do more personal exploration and retook the test after being more confident in my self. I got ESTP but the N and S were in the middle. I read the description and it made sense but I didn't resonate with the present-minded part considering I always thought ahead and was kinda geeky and never the absolute best at sports. I read different type descriptions and found ENTP and started doing research. It started out with me using the common easy identification method but then recently I got into cognitive functions. I was never physically artistic and I didn't really like a lot of people so I assumed that I was sensing and Introverted. As I looked back at past childhood I was able to connect all the dots and understand why I did the weird things I did like pushing people to see if they fell and playing with ants alone and arguing with everyone about everything and obsessing over topics for long periods of time.
"I took the 16personalities test because a friend suggested it. I got ISTP but everything was like 50%. Not much of it resonated with me but I just accepted it for some reason but didn't think it was a very big deal." Ayy same, except Introversion was a definite!
Ooh I like this, I've always thought I act a lot like an ENTP, and if I'm wrong about what I think I am now, then I'm probably that. I just stick with my current type because my internal patterns of being and thinking seem to align more with Ni-Se rather than Ne-Si, namely the lead deadlock certainty about my hunches and focus on far points in the future (this is wrong, this is right, I KNOW it's this not that, I want this and only this and maybe I'll do something about it eventually etc. etc.) supported by occasional visceral objective experiences and present-ness. Lead Nes and Ses always seem to be more impressionable to me in general, like if they hear or see something and it seems agreeable to them they'll switch to it or try it or repeat it or even seriously consider it, behaviourally at least. Like they'll be the voices that are more inclined to saying there's no right answer or no ideal path and all experiences and choices are eventually equally valuable and so on and when you ask them a question they're more likely to be like "oooh, maybe it's this... or maybe that... or on second thought it could be... uuuh.. hmm" compared to people with dominant introverted perception, who often sound more certain than they actually are, hence the whole seeming-wiseness thing.
I mean naturally an ENFP would also more pretty likely to find MBTI and type themselves due to being curious. But I agree there are too many ENFP's and many of them would probably type better as ESFP which is a common mistype, as well as INFP but INFP's are also more rare... but again who even made the statistics.
Whoa - neo speaking of statistics, in the past people would get more rewarded for being a sensor and people were taught to be a sensor. In the present time people want to stand out and get rewarded by innovating things. So people adapted to that too and now we have a lot more intuitives in percents. However there are still more sensors than intuitives right now and that should be taken into account. There are just as much sensors as intuitives making these tests and the only reason we think intuitives are more interested is because a lot of sensors score as Intuitives simply cause they wanted to be 'creative' at the time they made the test. Sorry for the rambling, I just wanted to share my thoughts
Saph I get your point, interesting with the sensor reward thing, how does it hold up with the current school system? I still see sensors being the ones who have the easiest time with it. Ranting is always welcome, IMO!
Whoa - neo That would be a tough one, as we know sensors are better at the present moment, what is, what isn't and they tend to have a better time remembering facts. But intuitives on the other hand are better at "what could be" and finding patterns. Intuitives also tend to be more ambitious and especially the xNxJ are most likely to have a clear vision about the future and are super ambitious in general. So who would be better in school? It's a fact that the higher you go educational wise, the more intuitives you will see. It's not that intuitives are smarter or anything like that, they are just more likely to continue with school and make a name for themselves or whatever they fancy. I'm 100% sure Sensors do better in high school though. They just fit in better because there are more of them. High school also tend to be more facts focused rather then pattern focused. INxx are most likely to get picked on in high school due to having poor athletic skills and having trouble fitting in ( normally speaking ) while sensors, especially the xSxP really shine. Try to imagine a soccer game ESTP vs INTJ, you'll see what I mean. I can go on for hours but I think this covers the main questions you might have.
Fascinating! So if I have intj all my life no matter how slow or fast I take those tests, and I have been peacocking, my other-self may be a istj?? I must contemplate this and start noticing. However I do well in duality... so this will be super insightful for me. Love your rants by the way, they challenge me!! 👊Thank you!
I guess this is why i have been consistently tested as an INTP (done the test 6 times in a span of 10 years).. I guess it's because i've never really cared about ppl and i am aware of it.. however, i know that any emotions that results from Fe is based on a sense of fear of rejection, abandonment and need for belonging.. besides having an ENTJ mother makes me also very aware of my own deficiencies.. on the other hand, I learnt so much about honing on my Ti and work on what I believe from my ISTP dad..
I took the Myers Briggs test and I kept getting infj and the more I looked into it learning the functions and learning about both the good and bad of the type I figured out I am not an infj. I'm either entp or enfp, I know I am one of them Im just having trouble trying to figure it out after this point.
okay... I'm looking through your videos in upload order, initially with the intention to just figure out if MBTI is more real or more horoscope, but I'm a little confused here trying to get my own type. I've seen myself the whole time as an ENFP, when I look at my desk I'm a terribly tiny Si. What I enjoy most doing is going out, talking to other people/ get to know new people, in the beginning I was more thinking about how to understand others than undersanding myself, I'm questioning a couple of things... I'd say I care about others, but am I peacocking by saying that? Is my F just by asking these questions very tiny and my real deamon is not organizing but instead having my identification clear? This stuff is really confusing.
I think this video kind of explains why I (an INTP) tend to bend over backwards, trying to assure people I CARE about something or someone, but they never seem to buy it unless they're another type whi can identify with who I am in some way, in which case they get kind of clingy which freaks me out a bit...
I relate. I'm an INTP and I grew up making believe to people I had the ENTJ personnality, even if I knew nothing aboout mbti at the time. Funny how life evolve
So i took aboard Dave's advice and did a little survey in personal life. At first i thought i was a infp because of the saviour FI and self above tribe thing but im not sure anymore. Which mbti does the results strongly correlate with. i am 19. results. 1.) Describe my personality 2.) Pet peeves Person 1 (No longer speak too) : 1. “Keep it real, not fake say it as it is and don’t hold back” 2. “too quiet on edge sometimes in group settings” person 2: (No longer speak too) 1. “easy going, clever, really kind” 2. “Self-doubt and harsh on yourself” Person 3: (not hung out in 2 years) 1. “chill to talk too, fun to have a laugh with, enjoyed going college knowing I could see and talk to you” 2. - person 4: (Not hung out in two years) 1. “like to joke around, funny and good person, introvert” 2. “Insecure, quiet, ill prepared for the future career wise” Person 5: (Online) 1. “Easy going, supportive, good friend” 2. - Person 6: (online) (dont talk as often as we used too) 1. “Funny, Smart, sympathetic, caring” 2. 2. “self-doubt” Person 7: (Online) ( Still talk too) 1. “Philosophical, “you like experimenting, you try out a lot of stuff, like seeing what works and what doesn’t, chill” 2. “disappear too often by leaving me on read” Person 8: (Ti user - not hung out in 3 years) (No longer properly speak too) 1. 1. “Talkative, energetic” 2. 2. “extremely annoying”. Person 9. (online,) (No longer properly talk too) 1. “Good listener, caring” 2. -
Im struggling with this and going over the top borderline obssessing(100% obssessing actually) trying to figure my type out cause I thought I was ENTP. But the variables....the VARIABLES MAN! too many possibilities could make meNOT ENTP. And what if even me making this comment which appears very ENTP is just me peacocking. How am I able to tell 😭. And WHAT IF ME SAYING IM PEACOCKING IS ACTUALLY THE REAL PEACOCK AND IM RIGHT ALL ALONG. I just want to ascend into knowing. I just gotta know 😵😵😵.
I was struggeling with my type for a long time. I had many fases of being a different type. Entj, entp, intj. Last couple of months I knew it. I fully believed I was an Infj. I thought is it still worth to be typed? Well i just do it. Probably for the confermation. Last week Joyce meng typed me. ESTP!!! I mean insane how we not see ourselves...
I thought I was an ENFP for years before I started reading about the functions and realized I'm an INFJ and now it makes sense why i thought that for so long lol
I love ENFPs, my brother is ENFP and we get along very well. ^ ^ Also, I've always had ENFP friends around me, and they're very fun and inspiring. I'll make sure to check it out. I've been thinking about this lately, how interacting with people makes me alive.. and it made me question whether I'm INFP or ENFP, but I highly doubt that.. Ne isn't my constant state of being, I'm more Fi! ^ ^ also i have terrible te lol, si is more.. comfortable to me. I'll make sure to learn more about my Ne through observing and connecting with you guys, I'm sure I'll learn about myself a lot. Thank you very much.
I thought I was an INFP because of feminine Fi. I always typed as an ENTP. But everyone saw me as an INTJ. I peacock with Fi/Se SO MUCH I catch myself doing it and am disgusted lmao. Like I go out of my way to show Fi and don't even realize my masculine Te has already forced people into a corner. It's really hard to hear how people see you vs how you see yourself.
This video talks about how everyone is trying to hide their demons, but wouldn't some personality types be much better at being honest with themselves? I spend a lot of time fact-checking and second-guessing myself in an attempt at having an objective understanding of the world (knowing that it's not easy). I'm new to the personality type stuff, so I'm keeping an open mind about my type, but have a feeling that I'd be better than average at recognizing my strengths and weaknesses. Honestly, I'd be happy to find out I'm a completely different type than I suspect - it would something new to explore!
I’m not entirely sure what type I am. Many things point to INTP but I can almost definitely say I’m IXXP. My sister believes I’m IXTP. I sometimes wish I were ISTP because their level of connection with the physical world is insane to me. That flow they always seem to be in is incredible. Or maybe even an INFP because they do not give a damn about (or don’t put an emphasis on) how others/tribes view them and are so comfortable with emotions. Don’t get me started on the qualities I respect about ENTJs... They scare me a little actually but I still respect them a lot 😂
I've gotten mixed results with the most recent being INFJ. I think I'm just gonna give up, I find MBTI interesting but I just can't really trust myself to answer the questions can I???
Well Well, at the beginning i did not want to believe you, a few years ago i felt like HAD TO BE an INTP, otherwise i would be worthless. A year later, i found i just might have feeling as a saviour. Yet another year later, i find out i might not be as introverted as i thought, and that i am actually the most happy around other people doing bullshit, instead of constructing fancy philosophical theories, even if it can be fun sometimes to touch those topics. It was, and is a really hard process for me right now, even besides this whole typing stuff, but just about finding out who you really are, and learning to love what you find. This took me some years, right now i just turned 21, and i feel like i wasted so much time of my life not doing what i really wanted to do, and being somewhere i maybe never really wanted to go anyway. Well, lets see where this journey takes us, right fellas? Mh, maybe im wrong again with the isfp haha, would this type write that much??!!
How very true! :D :D :D Based on tests I always somehow managed to type myself as ENFP. A horribly broken one, clearly, but definitely an ENFP. It was not until I started checking into cognitive functions and how they come out that I realized I might actually be quite a normal and legitimate INFJ :D
I’m an infj but always test as an enfj I think I’m scared of my introvertedness, also I always brag about how I’m soft and sweet maybe because I know I’m not.... somaybe im an intj, GOD IM QUESTIONING EVERYTHING NOW
Yeah, I'm probably guilty of this. Explains a lot of where I seem contradictory, especially as of recently. I've always assumed it was just me developing a new function as a young adult, or even something outside of MBTI/OP.
I've totally got it now! It wasn't really an A-Ha! moment, it was more of an Oh.. moment but it became an A-Ha! moment after taking some time to accept it.. Took me years to truly understand it but it was totally worth it.
Make sense my demon is Se and I am always drawn towards Huckleberry and Tom type of people. I don't even like going outside but sometimes I dream about one day I will travel all around the world 😂. Where I get frustrated even if had to go out for just an hour. I want some adventures in my life but I am not doing anything about it.
I’m an ENFP and I’ve had to spend so much time convincing people that me being good at organizing shit (Si) is a demon/fear reaction when I’ve spent too much time on Ne. All they see is the mad scramble to organize and how efficiently I do it, but they don’t see what’s causing me to have to do that…all the fantasizing and chasing variety because I felt like it and didn’t handle shit in reality.
That is interesting that he said that IPs want to be EJs. I got ISTP on the test and my Dad got ENTJ, my Dad is who I have been trying to emulate my whole life and have dramatically failed at.
Shut up telling me I'm a nerd, i want to go partying and be social, but it's hard because people don't understand me and judge me and... oh God, it's true, I'm a nerd 😭😭
Let the overthinking commence!
seems I got irony, but engange. this movie got pecocking, best part is Hollywood
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I somehow lost my account password. I would love any tips you can give me.
@Juan Collin Instablaster :)
lick a fence?
Lol, I keep testing as INTP, but I feel like I'm much more empathetic than the INTP 'stereotype', so I've been like "I care about other people's opinions / I'm not that smart, it just comes naturally / I can't do anything right oh man I suck everyone hates me / I DO help people" for years, and everyone I know who's into MBTI keeps telling me I am the most INTP person they know. Now I finally understand why. Thanks for another great video.
My best friend's an INTP and she's much more caring, helpful and even affectionate than the stereotype, even more so than me sometimes and I'm an INFP, we're supposed to be all huggy and sensitive. I think that this has been effected a lot by the environments we were raised in. My family don't really show any emotion but her family are very social and affectionate. Learnt behaviours? Maybe. She's still very INTP, though. We are lazy together, lol. Love you INTPs!
Saaaaaaamee. Fellow intp here with the exact same problem.. im way to empathetic. Like, i dont have any problems at all understanding others emotions
I have an INTP friend who is one of the most caring people I know! More caring and understanding than me as an INFP.
Relatable !
I'm INTP and even though i think I suck at careing about people, my friends and family say i'm very caring.
Either my INTP was a mistyping, or I’m just really lazy, procrastinate, live in my head, have trouble following social interactions and like to read up about the most impractical stuffs.
Bong Jensen - Nope, sounds like an INTP to me. Tell me, are you also, most often, if not always late to where you need to be?
And probably also by far the most resourceful guy out there who gets stuff done long after others give up. INTP is a safe bet.
@@a4286j I'm INTJ and im late a lot, I think the difference is whether they care or not.
This is the most INTP thing I've ever read, especially as one, myself.
@@a4286j uhmm...really embarrassed to say this, but from my late reply here, it seems that that is the case here
Really liking your approach to MBTI and going deep into your new insights. It’s pretty interesting to see how much you can break down the functions and recognize other people’s ‘saviors’ and ‘demons.’
Definitely gives a whole new spin. Especially when there’s plenty of empty holes that still need to be filled within MBTI.
Isn't this objective personality theory? Or o.p.s. And not mbti.
@@chickenchowmein6802 this is still mbti, its just an objective way to look at it
You just described my first attempts at trying to type myself. I swore I was an ISFP because, now that I think about it, I really wanted to be a cool uncommon introvert in the real world. Took my three weeks (and a ton of help from my INTP hubby) to realize I am totally an ENFJ :/
You talk fast so I put it at 0.75 speed. Now you sound like a drunk genius
@@mawley3266 same
I put it on 2.0 , INTP flex
What? I watch all my videos on 2x. No wonder the world seems so slow. -INTP
I usually watch UA-cam at 1.5x speed. But these guys are super articulate.
I always put it on 2x speed. You get used to it after 5 min if it seems too fast at first
...So you're saying that, since I constantly mouth on and on about who I am and what I stand for, I might just be bullshitting and have no idea of who I am as a person?
...you know what that could be very true.
It seems that your videos keep getting better and more interesting every time you upload
Demon Si - im so precise and know FACTS
Demon Se - i am such a bad ass
Demon Ni - i understand the universe, everything’s connected
Demon Ne - i’m so spontanioues and silly
Demon Ti - i think
Demon Te - Hey, i’m in charge, i have so much people below me!!!
Demon Fi - i’m so unique
Demon Fe - i’am good with people
But isn't like, everyone a demon Fi user in this scenario?
I don't have a demon Ni but I say exactly that. Although it's based on something objective.
@@victoiremvl No... Fi is my primary. Of course I'm weird and unique, duh. Silliness also not a problem. My demon is the 'look at me, I know how to make a career and buy a bug house'.
My biggest insecurity is my look and when someone tells me I am a coward.
At some point I also went out of my way to look «unique» by trying to always go against the flow even if I didnt necessarly like it.
I suppose this would be Se and Fi demon
I could also have Si demon issues as well so not sure btw Se and Si which one I got
@@victoiremvl no
Another 10/10 vid - I'm loving this non-function specific stuff i.e peacocking, demons/saviour tidal waves etc - it's adding a very welcomed 3D aspect to typology - a holistic approach - so much better than purely defining the functions etc.
Loving the classes as well. Keep up the good work - it's all a huge breath of fresh air, imo, can't get enough.
I totally relate to this as an INFP. I saw this show that had a really good strategic mastermind and was trolling people to observe how they react as a hobby, and I thought; I really wanna be like him.... then I’ve been wasting like years chasing that. You know Te demon..
omg, what show is that ( I'm an infp too and it sounds really interesting.. )
Izu mi It’s an anime if you like that, and it’s called durarara;) just promise me you won’t try to chase becoming like the protagonist(Izaya) strategy is not really Infp’s strength you know...
I love Izaya omg, he's my favorite character in Durarara c:
I like Shizu-chan too, Shinra is also really cute
Izu mi Ohh, you’ve watched it too:D ikr I loove Izaya too and Shizou, don’t worry I’ve watched the entire series, and Mikado in the last season is badass😎
Being smart is one of INFP's strength, yet being strategic is not
You have fantastic insight into typology and express it concisely and humorously. I’ve just been laughing my ass off listening to these and learning a lot of new stuff.
My brother is the ultimate INTP peacock. He becomes an ESTP when he's around people. But they see through it eventually.
When everyone's thinking about their demons late at night 🤣
”Yea sure you did your demons”
*happy succubus noises*
*guardian angel repeatedly banging his head against the wall noises*
@@anduro7448 BAHAHAH
Will you be writing a book on your findings? I find them fascinating and I want to know more.
So I think I'm an ENTP and I'm actually pretty sure of it even though I have doubted me being an ENTP for a loooong time (I was torn between INTP and ENTP). Tbh this video makes me doubt myself all over again. But then again your theory of Si/Ni = organising really supports the thesis of me being an ENTP since I'm absolute shit at organising things and don't find pleasure organising stuff whatsoever. I also feel like structure and organisation limits me in a way because it often involves decision-making and I consider myself to be a really spontaneous and indecisive person (Actually, I'm the definition of indecisiveness). I mean I'm not dumb (or at least I hope so), I can see the benefits of things being organised but I just can't do it.
To me (an ENFP) who is someone who has been watching all of Dave's videos, engraving the concepts behind his theories into my brain because of how effective it is compared to other methods I have seen. Based on your comment, I'd say your an ENTP. Your quality of being indecisive, trait of the lead observer types (Ne/Se), and I'd say your definitely not an IxxP type given that they're human needs fear is in alignment with their identities not fitting in with that tribe, where in contrast with ExxJ they're more so in fear of their own identities, because they don't know how they will fit I'm the tribe. Given how you openly express your thoughts on how much you dislike organizing, I'd say your definitely in the ExxP category, since our human need fear is control. More so, being in a setting that does not allow us to be ourselves. ExxP tend to thrive in chaos, in contrast to IxxJ who fear chaos, and crave so much to have everything in order and in their control. Given all that. Based off the types you presented, I'd say your most likely an ENTP.
Of course. All of that will be false if your comment was a display of your types peacocking effect. I've struggled very much in trying to type myself. For a long time o truly thought I was an INFP, until I start seeing how the function stack work, then realized how much of an ENFP I truly am. After that point I still didn't understand the entire concepts of cognitive functions and for a moment I thought I was an ENTP. One of my close friends is an ENTP, and after I found that out, I really start comparing and contrasting how we process information, and seeing where we gained our energy as well as what drained our energy. The difference in us is that my second and third functions are Fi-Te and his are Ti-Fe, and we both share lead Ne, and inferior Si. We process information very similarly, in fact exactly the same. Our judgments very similar in nature, but not the same in practicality, which is usually expressed in how we communicate what's meaningful to us through our. Fi or Ti
Ok... but how do you type the person who knows what they suck at? Not everyone is peacocking their demon function, some of us are well aware we suck at it.
pamelam4 honestly this is why I get annoyed with teens who are trying to type themselves sometimes. They can't figure out their type *because* they're young and don't know themselves that well. And subsequently they claim they obviously use every function equally. Yah ok 👌
I would be one of those people who doesn't really care to "peacock" my weaker points, & would rather cater to the natural strengths that I know make me "me". But I'm not young (almost 39), have always been rather self-reflecting in nature (moreso now--with more independence & life experience to reflect on--compared to when I was), and have been officially & consistently typed by other admins, career recruiters, and certified counselors & therapists as the same type that I, myself, identify as (but likely wouldn't have in my much more self-insecure adolescent years): a "high Si" INTP type (after initial confusion for most of them trying to assess if I might be ISTP).
*many of us
maybe you're peacocking on self-awareness hmmm
@@zanakate7319 fi
Hey Dave,
Thank you for sharing your insight! It seems you've really got this figured out, thank you!
Keep up the great job!
You mentioned that INFJs commonly mistype as ENTPs and that made me perk way up. That's the exact dilemma I've been going through, and yet there seems so few people anywhere that seems to be asking this question! I would love and episode on this, or perhaps common mistypes, or peacocking as the opposite of your main functional axis, wherever the most interesting pattern is there...
Good insight! How the cognitive functions manifest really reflects the fact that personality consists of what we aspire to do AND what we actually do (think of personality sorting into Hogwarts Houses in Harry Potter-- students are sorted into the Houses based on their personalities, so the sorting process takes into account BOTH the student's values and actual behavior)
One of your best, most useful videos.
This answers some persistent questions I've had about my interactions with people. Thank you.
I watched this, then asked myself what I naturally peacock at.... and I don't really think I'm good at anything so it didn't really work.
I'm terrified of other human beings. So I peacock by being super friendly and attentive to people. But I peacock wayy too much.
Great explanation Dave. Very important for people who are into MBTI/cognitive functions to understand these things
So... how do I figure out if I'm bull shitting with myself about my own type? Like what if I take a test and get ENTP and I'm like "wow that's really cool, I'm gonna own that" even though I was really like an isfj or something so then I start really focusing on Ne and Ti and consciously repress Si and Fe to the point where my demons are now my saviors and my saviors that were tossed aside grow to reset me and make a satanic pact to become demons? If I'm always now consciously USING my once-demon functions all the time, and BELIEVING that my demon functions are in fact my saviors, and I'm smart enough to actually use my demon functions well despite them being my demons, then what? Have I morphed into a new type?
With your comment, my bet is on INTP
Saph OK cool but why?
Saph thanks for the feedback btw
Your comment was all over the place which shows me good o'l messy Ne rather then Si, guided by personal logic. From there I'm kind of taking a leap of faith by betting on INTP instead of ENTP.
But hey, Dave has a website where you can find out for sure if you really wanted to
Super old comment I know, but I had the exact same problem. It seems like a never ending paradox to me. WHEN DO WE KNOW? I've gone around thinkig I'm an INFJ for god knows how long, but realised that my Fe might be something that I learned in my teens. I LITERALLY READ BOOKS about how to VALIDATE and INTERACT with other humans.Watched videos. Ran scenarios in my head. Like I approached it in a very rational manner, and I was so thrilled when my strategies on how to behave payed off. It's not like I didn't care about others before, I just didn't know how to approach it. Now I do, and if I say so myself, I've gotten real good at it. I've managed to learn how to hold emotional space for people to the point that I'm more often than not the go-to person to call for emotional support in a circle of friends. Now my Fe can almost appear as savoir (at least to me), but I honestly don't know. I might be ENTP. Everything is chaos.
So interesting! I am an INFP, but I thought of what you said about mistaking and possibly being an ENFJ. I think in my early 20s I was a lot more extraverted because I wanted that validation. But as I got older I became self assured and more introverted. I am pretty sure I am an INFP though. One of my biggest problems in past relationships was not giving my time to the other person. In your INFP video you mentioned that is our struggle. Why do we have such a hard time with that? I guess we are selfish. Which is so funny because I bet INFPs think of themselves as not selfish at all and good people inside. I remember my mom told me once though that if I don't want to do something then I won't do it, and it is pretty true!
This is so accurate. I think age, maturity and security will aggravate this too. Great topic. Thank you!
I used to mistype as ENFP because of the 'peacocking', I wanted to socialize but was too shy and lacked the courage, I wanted to be a nice person just so I'd feel accepted
I thought my supervisor was an ENFP because of it, as well. He's a huuuuuuge peacock.
As an ENFP, as well as a person whose is trying to go out in the world typing people using objective personality's methodology (because after having have done so much NE exploring looking through many other different sites and videos, in attempts understand cognitive functions [no thanks to mbti] through my Fi I concludes that Objective Personality has PROVEN to have provided the best system for typing others) I figure for ENFPs we won't really have a problem with determining when others are peacocking (which is a very nice way to put it) their demons. I think this is due to how we crave for that feeling of connecting with people. More so individuals. But in the process of doing so we may sometimes get annoyed or be irritated by when people display face-value behavior or having to go through small talk due to whatever factors causes for them to be such ways. This in turn can come off to other people as someone who ask a lot of questions, or are "too much into their business". So in other words it's very easy for us to tell when people are being "fake", or not "authentic to themselves" because at the end of the day we want them to be themselves to the fullest. I'd like for other ENFPs to chime in on this and express if they feel that's the case for them as well so ik I'm not just coming to complete subjective Fi conclusion about it. I encourage people of other types to express if it's that easy for them as well, or is more difficult for y'all than I implied.
Espee personally, I think ENFPs are one of the few types that are more likely to be very self aware about what they present to the world vs. what they're really about. So if they do peacock, they are more likely to do it consciously than other types (who unintentionally deceive others because they're also deceiving themselves). If an ENFP happens to feel insecure about being inauthentic because they habitually "put on a show", then if they dislike that they themselves sometimes knowingly engage in peacocking behavior, then they're more likely to recognize the behavior in others and (either consciously or subconsciously) feel irritated if they're projecting their self-directed frustration.
This probably isn't exclusive to ENFPs, but I suspect ENFPs could have this problem.
Also think it would depend on how self aware the ENFP is. I think what's implied in this video is that usually people who peacock do it unknowingly, but I guess I think it would manifest differently for people who are either hyper self-aware, or particularly aware of this particular habit (in themselves or others).
I don't know my type; just going solely off my intuition and it could be way off base. Maybe that's a sign I have weak intuition haha.
What are your thoughts as an ENFP?
This video makes sense. Though again what about those who try to be honest when answering questions? I used to get INFP until real life proved I am not a random idea generator. I don't prefer to make decisions on my personal values only and certainly not as the leading decider. (have seen it done in a negative light and seen the cause effect of that) I do generate ideas that seem random, but they have a focus, and they lead back to some bigger idea, whether I am aware of the connection or not. My thinking tends to be towards cause to effect, then switch the cause to see another effect. Then compare effects to see, can I have different causes to lead to the same effect? Or if the effects branch out, how may they come together? It can be logical or emotional. I can visualize how, say fighting and losing a major battle would effect a soldier character psychologically and lead to healthy vs. unhealthy coping mechanisms. Then zoom out to imagine how other characters may react to his behavior. Then plot out from there what may happen. It gets very detailed.
I can do thought jumping, but if I think back and reflect I can go backwards in time to see a general idea how I shifted from one topic to another, for example, how I may have gotten from reading a wikipedia page about Llamas to reading an article related to American History.
I wish I could have help finding people to figure out if I am correctly typing myself INFJ, but I haven't found people interested in MBTI to evaluate it, both for themselves and for me. So it's either self typing or the internet....neither being totally reliable. Another one I've pondered over is ENFJ, but I am not sure if I am extroverted enough and Fe focused as much as I am focused on my imagination. INTJ is another one I've thought of too, maybe inferior Fi, but it seems when I am in a good mood, I focus on how my statements may be taken, thus feel like checking myself if I have something critical to say. (though I may think it and desire to be more direct.)
Bug Folk I wonder if we share the same type (because I've never identified so much with a UA-cam comment). If you have a more concrete idea by now, I'd love to chat with you 1-on-1! I'm having the same hard time self-typing.
Bug Folk Bug Folk
I feel like I’m having the exact same kind of problem as you, but I’ve been consistently typed now as an INTJ. So there’s either a slight subtlety in how we process our feelings to make you an INFJ or you could actually be an INTJ such as myself. If you read this comment I’d love to hear about your thoughts and reflections as well!
(My friend said you can tell I’m an INTJ by trying to appeal to your feelings in exchange for information, so I guess if you do that a lot then you’re definitely the same as me XD )
Hmmm wow yeah this was really affirming!!! I spent a lot of time saying I was an INFJ, but I've been doing some homework and think I'm actually an ENTP. I would say things like "yeah im really good at organizing." Or "yeah I really feel a strong vision for one direction life." But yeah right!!! That's a lie straight from the pit of hell! I occasionally get on organizing kicks that give me kind of a high, but on a day-to-day basis, I have to fight against my own nature to stay organized. And one singular vision in life that I'm passionate about??? Heck no. I've had a hard time figuring out what to do with life because at the end of the day I really DON'T know what I want to do because there are TOO MANY things I could see myself doing. I thought I cared deeply about a few ideas, but I'm actually obsessed with exploring new and different ideas.
I’m not sure where these people are being tested but I was typed by a professional trainer, specifically authorized to test adults and children with the MBTI. It changed my life. As soon as I listened to her explain INTJ (I’m a woman) I 100% understood why I never felt like I fit in except at college and why it was really hard to squash the feeling I’m right bc I “see” it so clearly. Being a woman INTJ feels really awkward to me sometimes bc it rarely occurs to me I maybe wrong. 🙄😋 The only time I felt like I fit in at a job was when I worked at a nuclear plant with 99.9% men. No drama. Very little BS IMHO. Thank you for sharing these videos. I just found you guys and I love your channel. 🙌🥰😎
my relationship with the type that I think I am is that I have those weaknesses, but I am good where it counts!
Gotta say I feel the point made it the video is quite a valuable one (also not just intps)
The first time I tested mbti i got entp with 51% extravert, yet I felt I was far more 'introverted' and shy. Yet last times it's been vise versa. I found entp/intp are quite similar and I now feel more like an entp even of I score intp with 51% or more introvertion. In hindsight such grey areas make much more sense considering the peacock effect. But it sorta adds to that in the end it doesn't matter; it's not what you think you're supposed to be, but about how you can express yourself best as a person and learn from the personality types as a compass rather than an absolute truth. Who knows what you can learn from trying out different approaches opposite to your personity, instead of adhering to a type. You'll still be the same person but with more understanding and even more space for growth.
I gotta say, I (an INFJ) didn't ever come remotely close to thinking I was an EP, or wanting to be one. the MBTI test typed me as an INFP sometimes, and I typed myself as INTP first, then INFP, and finally INFJ, firstly because of the "traits" ( door slam, social chameleon etc.) and secondly the cognitive functions. I was 50 when I got into MBTI, so maybe I was more developed and tried to be more objective.
I must say i admire some EP qualities because I'm so lacking in that department.
Same happened to me. I don't know if I'm actually infj, I feel infp sometimes but my most likely biased logic points to infj. I was reading estp descriptions and I had a sense of "I want to be that not me" so maybe I typed myself right, or maybe I only think that because I've seen this video too confirm I'm infj. I really don't know anything but I guess that's okay. Humans are so easily persuaded and maybe I've just been persuaded that I'm not who I really am. Sometimes I think it's better to ditch this whole system as to not possibly get attached to a concept
So wonderful video !!
There's a better way to look at it.
Compare the cognitive functions hierarchy to the Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Everyone thrives towards satisfying their tertiary/inferior functions; dominant/auxiliary functions being their basic needs.
People actually _do_ care about satisfying their inferior function, but it's down the pecking order; the dominant functions have priority.
So that's why I thought I was INTP and I related to Ti I was like oh yeah I use logic and have ideas. Yeah I'm really perceiver and cool. But something wasn't right. After lots of research I found I'm INFJ but I was rejecting my Fe side and I was insecure about my Ti-Se. And I didn't notice I'm really judging.
Soooo could an INFJ peacocking look like them posting selfies of all their glorious muscles or videos of the new dance routine they mastered etc?
This guy's honesty is refreshing
This video made me feel - angry, understood, mindblown, sad, disappointed and self-loathing. anyways I started crying.. GOD I am such peacocker! This sucks. I really wish I am not an INFP. but i realized it is so true.. so many nights I spend time thinking that I should do more for the world, more for the people, start something BIG to help others and make an impact and just do more to not be just a waste of O2 in this world. But then when the day comes I just am in my usual state, just learning new stuff, doing what I like but rarely taking any real action. I wish I didn't have Fi because I don't want to be selfish. I really really don't. I would really appreciate if you could make a video someday maybe about how to develop Te. It would tremendously help. I am thankful for what you guys are doing.
This is fab information! :)
I like your rational approach to this issue and your analysis is cognitively and psychologically sound.
I've been looking into the phenomenon of "mistyping" for about a year, because my own MBTI and function test results were not OBJECTIVELY sensible to me, while the enneagram ones were more consistent.
There is this almost "common" agreement among Type theories commenters/YTbers that people who mistype do so on purpose, to boost their ego. But they never really addressed the MECHANICS of this phenomenon from the perspectives of "function dominance : contradictory behaviours". You just did and explained it with a fairly straightforward (non-judgemental) language.
One question though. Do we ONLY do this for the sake of our ego, while in society, or do is it some unconsciously private yearning that we all have in order to cater to our inferior/shadow functions? I know that Jung has said a lot on this subject through his explorations of archetypes, but for individuality to be defined, there has to be some form of resistance to social constructs. Would you say that our weak functions and top shadow functions help in fleshing out that resistance while flushing out the fear from our system?
Interesting. When I did the Myer's Briggs test first I got INTJ and I was very interested in what this meant. Down the line I realized I'm actually an INTP and well now it all makes sense. I was trying so hard in college to manage my time and work how a studious and diligent student would so I had to develop some Te. Now that I'm on a break however I look back my time before college and I realize I'm really better at using Ti and Ne. Even now it feels more natural to use them. Thanks for this video though it helped me understand this a bit more.
kinda explains i fantasize myself being an extrovert nailing those fake scenarios
Bloodyhell after scouring the internet and multiple of @objectivepersonality’s vids I finally have my confirmation on what type I actually am! 🙌🏽
That INFJ ↔️ ENTP prediction blew my mind as I have scored INFJ 2/3 times I took the Myers-Briggs test 🤯
Omg so true, I took the mbti, got entj then did it again but truthfully and got intp
This is very true. Firstly I was an ENTJ in a test, later I was an INTP
Either way, tribe validation seems to be your core conflict in life. The true question here is whether you feel more comfortable alone and learning things, ditching the tribe. Or if you are more comfortable out in the world, integrating with the tribe.
@@CaveyMoth as far as i've learned from Dave and Shannon, it's not entirely only that. They use to say that not every extrovert likes people, and vice versa not every introvert is misanthropic, it may even depend from past experiences. If the "Extroverted Single Decider" has not found his tribe yet, he/she can look like an introverted
Too
This makes me think of an enfp friend of mine who keeps telling everyone how analytical he is, that that's how his brain just works. Tbh it never even occured to me before how strange it was for him to be saying that
I've seen videos on how the different MBTI types operate when "in the grip" (i.e., when they are extremely stressed and thus operate or even process information in ways that don't necessarily come naturally to them).
I would love to see a video that addresses whether that sort of phenomenon is legitimate and if so, whether it could even cause someone to mistype themselves (or be mistyped by others).
For example, if an INFJ or INTJ (types that should have more balanced decider functions) receives seemingly invalidatable negative feedback that shakes their whole self-image, could a resultant identity crisis cause them to obsess over their identity?
Then if they try to type themselves, could that negatively impact their ability to gauge which cognitive functions are their saviors vs. demons?
I suspect anyone undergoing an identity crisis in such a situation should then steer clear of self-typing.
Does that make sense to anyone?
Anyone else ever experienced this?
Or am I just a depressed EJ who is in denial?
I don’t understand at all.
But then, I don’t care.
But I think it’s all fascinating.
And I’m convinced it’s accurate.
Back to my book.
You might just be lead Ti.
This spells like peacocking to me.
The test does say please answer honestly.
I am a 100% confirmed ENTP but it took digging to confirm that. When I was 14 I took the 16personalities test because a friend suggested it. I got ISTP but everything was like 50%. Not much of it resonated with me but I just accepted it for some reason but didn't think it was a very big deal. 3 years later I was curious about it and took it again and got ISTJ. The only part that was confident was thinking. Again i didnt think much about it. Then when I was 18 I decided to do more personal exploration and retook the test after being more confident in my self. I got ESTP but the N and S were in the middle. I read the description and it made sense but I didn't resonate with the present-minded part considering I always thought ahead and was kinda geeky and never the absolute best at sports. I read different type descriptions and found ENTP and started doing research. It started out with me using the common easy identification method but then recently I got into cognitive functions. I was never physically artistic and I didn't really like a lot of people so I assumed that I was sensing and Introverted. As I looked back at past childhood I was able to connect all the dots and understand why I did the weird things I did like pushing people to see if they fell and playing with ants alone and arguing with everyone about everything and obsessing over topics for long periods of time.
"I took the 16personalities test because a friend suggested it. I got ISTP but everything was like 50%. Not much of it resonated with me but I just accepted it for some reason but didn't think it was a very big deal."
Ayy same, except Introversion was a definite!
You really got it 100%
Very well said
Ooh I like this, I've always thought I act a lot like an ENTP, and if I'm wrong about what I think I am now, then I'm probably that. I just stick with my current type because my internal patterns of being and thinking seem to align more with Ni-Se rather than Ne-Si, namely the lead deadlock certainty about my hunches and focus on far points in the future (this is wrong, this is right, I KNOW it's this not that, I want this and only this and maybe I'll do something about it eventually etc. etc.) supported by occasional visceral objective experiences and present-ness. Lead Nes and Ses always seem to be more impressionable to me in general, like if they hear or see something and it seems agreeable to them they'll switch to it or try it or repeat it or even seriously consider it, behaviourally at least. Like they'll be the voices that are more inclined to saying there's no right answer or no ideal path and all experiences and choices are eventually equally valuable and so on and when you ask them a question they're more likely to be like "oooh, maybe it's this... or maybe that... or on second thought it could be... uuuh.. hmm" compared to people with dominant introverted perception, who often sound more certain than they actually are, hence the whole seeming-wiseness thing.
Well that explains why so many people type themselfes as ENFP while you're just standing there like.... yeeaa sure mate
Saph Yes, there’s not that many of them and yet 1/3 of the population are ENFPs.
I mean naturally an ENFP would also more pretty likely to find MBTI and type themselves due to being curious. But I agree there are too many ENFP's and many of them would probably type better as ESFP which is a common mistype, as well as INFP but INFP's are also more rare... but again who even made the statistics.
Whoa - neo speaking of statistics, in the past people would get more rewarded for being a sensor and people were taught to be a sensor. In the present time people want to stand out and get rewarded by innovating things. So people adapted to that too and now we have a lot more intuitives in percents.
However there are still more sensors than intuitives right now and that should be taken into account.
There are just as much sensors as intuitives making these tests and the only reason we think intuitives are more interested is because a lot of sensors score as Intuitives simply cause they wanted to be 'creative' at the time they made the test.
Sorry for the rambling, I just wanted to share my thoughts
Saph I get your point, interesting with the sensor reward thing, how does it hold up with the current school system? I still see sensors being the ones who have the easiest time with it.
Ranting is always welcome, IMO!
Whoa - neo That would be a tough one, as we know sensors are better at the present moment, what is, what isn't and they tend to have a better time remembering facts.
But intuitives on the other hand are better at "what could be" and finding patterns. Intuitives also tend to be more ambitious and especially the xNxJ are most likely to have a clear vision about the future and are super ambitious in general.
So who would be better in school? It's a fact that the higher you go educational wise, the more intuitives you will see. It's not that intuitives are smarter or anything like that, they are just more likely to continue with school and make a name for themselves or whatever they fancy.
I'm 100% sure Sensors do better in high school though. They just fit in better because there are more of them. High school also tend to be more facts focused rather then pattern focused.
INxx are most likely to get picked on in high school due to having poor athletic skills and having trouble fitting in ( normally speaking ) while sensors, especially the xSxP really shine.
Try to imagine a soccer game ESTP vs INTJ, you'll see what I mean.
I can go on for hours but I think this covers the main questions you might have.
Fascinating! So if I have intj all my life no matter how slow or fast I take those tests, and I have been peacocking, my other-self may be a istj?? I must contemplate this and start noticing. However I do well in duality... so this will be super insightful for me. Love your rants by the way, they challenge me!! 👊Thank you!
Dave. How are you so awesome?!?! Where did you study this?!??
Can you do more on peacocking?
I guess this is why i have been consistently tested as an INTP (done the test 6 times in a span of 10 years).. I guess it's because i've never really cared about ppl and i am aware of it.. however, i know that any emotions that results from Fe is based on a sense of fear of rejection, abandonment and need for belonging.. besides having an ENTJ mother makes me also very aware of my own deficiencies.. on the other hand, I learnt so much about honing on my Ti and work on what I believe from my ISTP dad..
I took the Myers Briggs test and I kept getting infj and the more I looked into it learning the functions and learning about both the good and bad of the type I figured out I am not an infj. I'm either entp or enfp, I know I am one of them Im just having trouble trying to figure it out after this point.
My boyfriend is an INFJ, and I noticed he always relates most to TV and movie characters who are ENTP. I'm like, really? THAT'S how you see yourself?
4:51 that’s literally me when I tell my demons
okay... I'm looking through your videos in upload order, initially with the intention to just figure out if MBTI is more real or more horoscope, but I'm a little confused here trying to get my own type. I've seen myself the whole time as an ENFP, when I look at my desk I'm a terribly tiny Si. What I enjoy most doing is going out, talking to other people/ get to know new people, in the beginning I was more thinking about how to understand others than undersanding myself, I'm questioning a couple of things... I'd say I care about others, but am I peacocking by saying that? Is my F just by asking these questions very tiny and my real deamon is not organizing but instead having my identification clear? This stuff is really confusing.
I think this video kind of explains why I (an INTP) tend to bend over backwards, trying to assure people I CARE about something or someone, but they never seem to buy it unless they're another type whi can identify with who I am in some way, in which case they get kind of clingy which freaks me out a bit...
now i procrastinate...
I relate. I'm an INTP and I grew up making believe to people I had the ENTJ personnality, even if I knew nothing aboout mbti at the time. Funny how life evolve
So i took aboard Dave's advice and did a little survey in personal life. At first i thought i was a infp because of the saviour FI and self above tribe thing but im not sure anymore. Which mbti does the results strongly correlate with. i am 19.
results.
1.) Describe my personality
2.) Pet peeves
Person 1 (No longer speak too) :
1. “Keep it real, not fake say it as it is and don’t hold back”
2. “too quiet on edge sometimes in group settings”
person 2: (No longer speak too)
1. “easy going, clever, really kind”
2. “Self-doubt and harsh on yourself”
Person 3: (not hung out in 2 years)
1. “chill to talk too, fun to have a laugh with, enjoyed going college knowing I could see and talk to you”
2. -
person 4: (Not hung out in two years)
1. “like to joke around, funny and good person, introvert”
2. “Insecure, quiet, ill prepared for the future career wise”
Person 5: (Online)
1. “Easy going, supportive, good friend”
2. -
Person 6: (online) (dont talk as often as we used too)
1. “Funny, Smart, sympathetic, caring”
2. 2. “self-doubt”
Person 7: (Online) ( Still talk too)
1. “Philosophical, “you like experimenting, you try out a lot of stuff, like seeing what works and what doesn’t, chill”
2. “disappear too often by leaving me on read”
Person 8: (Ti user - not hung out in 3 years) (No longer properly speak too)
1. 1. “Talkative, energetic”
2. 2. “extremely annoying”.
Person 9. (online,) (No longer properly talk too)
1. “Good listener, caring”
2. -
Im struggling with this and going over the top borderline obssessing(100% obssessing actually) trying to figure my type out cause I thought I was ENTP. But the variables....the VARIABLES MAN! too many possibilities could make meNOT ENTP. And what if even me making this comment which appears very ENTP is just me peacocking. How am I able to tell 😭. And WHAT IF ME SAYING IM PEACOCKING IS ACTUALLY THE REAL PEACOCK AND IM RIGHT ALL ALONG. I just want to ascend into knowing. I just gotta know 😵😵😵.
Be alone then think. Can't peacock if there's nobody to impress. (I think)
Your humour is over 9000
I was struggeling with my type for a long time. I had many fases of being a different type. Entj, entp, intj. Last couple of months I knew it. I fully believed I was an Infj. I thought is it still worth to be typed? Well i just do it. Probably for the confermation. Last week Joyce meng typed me. ESTP!!!
I mean insane how we not see ourselves...
I thought I was an ENFP for years before I started reading about the functions and realized I'm an INFJ and now it makes sense why i thought that for so long lol
I know this comment is forever old, but what were the things that made you realize you were an INFJ?
Please talk about INFPs, lol. We're a lil lost. ( well, I am.. )
I love ENFPs, my brother is ENFP and we get along very well. ^ ^
Also, I've always had ENFP friends around me, and they're very fun and inspiring.
I'll make sure to check it out.
I've been thinking about this lately, how interacting with people makes me alive.. and it made me question whether I'm INFP or ENFP, but I highly doubt that.. Ne isn't my constant state of being, I'm more Fi! ^ ^ also i have terrible te lol, si is more.. comfortable to me.
I'll make sure to learn more about my Ne through observing and connecting with you guys, I'm sure I'll learn about myself a lot. Thank you very much.
@@ReeThealien he/she said INFP though not ENFP.
Intp got it worse
Wow. Really interesting
I thought I was an INFP because of feminine Fi. I always typed as an ENTP. But everyone saw me as an INTJ. I peacock with Fi/Se SO MUCH I catch myself doing it and am disgusted lmao. Like I go out of my way to show Fi and don't even realize my masculine Te has already forced people into a corner. It's really hard to hear how people see you vs how you see yourself.
He is talking about MBTI community xD
This video talks about how everyone is trying to hide their demons, but wouldn't some personality types be much better at being honest with themselves? I spend a lot of time fact-checking and second-guessing myself in an attempt at having an objective understanding of the world (knowing that it's not easy). I'm new to the personality type stuff, so I'm keeping an open mind about my type, but have a feeling that I'd be better than average at recognizing my strengths and weaknesses. Honestly, I'd be happy to find out I'm a completely different type than I suspect - it would something new to explore!
Wow I was really peacocking on my demons
Please stop teasing me and give me all the INTJ related videos I can take!
I was guilty of peacocking early on. I thought I was an Fi dom. Nope. Se dom who is Se-Te. It happens 🤷♂️
I peacock with my Se CONSTANTLY
I’m not entirely sure what type I am. Many things point to INTP but I can almost definitely say I’m IXXP. My sister believes I’m IXTP. I sometimes wish I were ISTP because their level of connection with the physical world is insane to me. That flow they always seem to be in is incredible. Or maybe even an INFP because they do not give a damn about (or don’t put an emphasis on) how others/tribes view them and are so comfortable with emotions. Don’t get me started on the qualities I respect about ENTJs... They scare me a little actually but I still respect them a lot 😂
I've gotten mixed results with the most recent being INFJ. I think I'm just gonna give up, I find MBTI interesting but I just can't really trust myself to answer the questions can I???
Well Well, at the beginning i did not want to believe you, a few years ago i felt like HAD TO BE an INTP, otherwise i would be worthless. A year later, i found i just might have feeling as a saviour. Yet another year later, i find out i might not be as introverted as i thought, and that i am actually the most happy around other people doing bullshit, instead of constructing fancy philosophical theories, even if it can be fun sometimes to touch those topics. It was, and is a really hard process for me right now, even besides this whole typing stuff, but just about finding out who you really are, and learning to love what you find. This took me some years, right now i just turned 21, and i feel like i wasted so much time of my life not doing what i really wanted to do, and being somewhere i maybe never really wanted to go anyway. Well, lets see where this journey takes us, right fellas? Mh, maybe im wrong again with the isfp haha, would this type write that much??!!
How very true! :D :D :D Based on tests I always somehow managed to type myself as ENFP. A horribly broken one, clearly, but definitely an ENFP. It was not until I started checking into cognitive functions and how they come out that I realized I might actually be quite a normal and legitimate INFJ :D
I’m an infj but always test as an enfj I think I’m scared of my introvertedness, also I always brag about how I’m soft and sweet maybe because I know I’m not.... somaybe im an intj, GOD IM QUESTIONING EVERYTHING NOW
Yeah, I'm probably guilty of this. Explains a lot of where I seem contradictory, especially as of recently. I've always assumed it was just me developing a new function as a young adult, or even something outside of MBTI/OP.
I've totally got it now! It wasn't really an A-Ha! moment, it was more of an Oh.. moment but it became an A-Ha! moment after taking some time to accept it..
Took me years to truly understand it but it was totally worth it.
Miss Universe contests. They are talking about politics, environment etc. Te stuff.
And they are complete laughingstock doing it.
bamboozled
If u can predict the type that they will go to then why dont u then just type them as that?
So if I think I am a specific type I am just most likely the opposite of that specific type? Got it!
Make sense my demon is Se and I am always drawn towards Huckleberry and Tom type of people. I don't even like going outside but sometimes I dream about one day I will travel all around the world 😂. Where I get frustrated even if had to go out for just an hour. I want some adventures in my life but I am not doing anything about it.
i’ve always gotten INFJ, but using the heroku app I came out with INTJ.. very surprising
Talk about ISTJs I think I might be one
I am so clueless about my deamons I wouldn't even know how to begin peacocking them :p
You and me both lol
I’m an ENFP and I’ve had to spend so much time convincing people that me being good at organizing shit (Si) is a demon/fear reaction when I’ve spent too much time on Ne. All they see is the mad scramble to organize and how efficiently I do it, but they don’t see what’s causing me to have to do that…all the fantasizing and chasing variety because I felt like it and didn’t handle shit in reality.
That is interesting that he said that IPs want to be EJs. I got ISTP on the test and my Dad got ENTJ, my Dad is who I have been trying to emulate my whole life and have dramatically failed at.
Not getting wrapped up in the tribe’s bullshit is hard though. Taking an objective step back is difficult to know how to do sometimes
Shut up telling me I'm a nerd, i want to go partying and be social, but it's hard because people don't understand me and judge me and... oh God, it's true, I'm a nerd 😭😭