You prolly dont give a shit but does someone know of a way to log back into an instagram account..? I was dumb lost the account password. I would appreciate any assistance you can give me
@Ryan Willie thanks for your reply. I found the site on google and Im in the hacking process now. I see it takes a while so I will reply here later with my results.
Daquan Roman says: "6 years later its worse" == What's worse? "Jerry Brown’s Legacy: A $6.1 Billion Budget Surplus in California" www.wsj.com/articles/jerry-browns-legacy-a-6-1-billion-budget-surplus-in-california-1515624022 When the (Republican) terminator governor left the office in 2011(which the year this video was posted), the debt he left behind was $27 billion. It was tripled during his term. Just imagine how good California would have been without him. Where are you getting your information?
allgoo19 You do realize the state debt was at 155 billion in 2015 right? That doesn't include unfunded liabilities either which have gone through the roof in recent years.
michael mancuso says: "allgoo19 You do realize the state debt was at 155 billion in 2015 right?..." == No. Never heard of it. Show me the article. I'll read it If it's true, it would give Governor Brown more credit. So, show it to me.
allgoo19 this the current debt amount including local municipalities but excludes unfunded liabilities. Nearly doubles when they are included. www.usdebtclock.org/state-debt-clocks/state-of-california-debt-clock.html
Van Jones says California isn't a failed state because (quote) "solutions are on the way" ....Well Van why is there the need for "solutions" if you're arguing everything's fine? Why is this even up for debate if everything's fine? Where are debates on other states?
Blazingg! Nice observation....why a solution if it's fine. This is CA logic that literally makes my brain seize if I am around it too much. I live here and it is prevalent. They reason things with their emotions, which are fickle. Facts exist separate from feelings-most of them do not really understand this. They think if they have strong feelings, then their view is right here. It's pretty nuts. I can't take much more here. It's like I am trapped in a foreign country even though it's my country. I come last. Whites are the enemy.
Will Hart The drought? Agriculture is 1% of California's economy. There is plenty of water for the productive urban areas. It's Ag that uses 90% of the state's water and if it gets bad enough, the state will step in and make sure urban areas get theirs and Ag is hung out to dry.
I love the land of my birth, California, but I no longer live there because of all it's evils and corruption. I am a Christian, a republican, a true to US Constitution woman. But I am now living in Texas with people who share my values.
Van Jones has the same answer for each point. "We have big solutions for big problems". What are these "big" solutions? How and when are they to be implemented?
Silicon valley employees can't even live in the state, a lot are opting to live in reno and then commute few days a week via air travel, doing this weekly is still cheaper than living in that failed state.
yeah but all the tech companies employees are homeless. who can afford a rent of $4,000 or 1000 square foot home for half million dollars...#leave while you can
Lke Mccl that's an outrageous statement here a link of several appartments in safe zines that are under 1000 per month and they are all 1000 square foot your completely unrealistic www.apartments.com/los-angeles-ca/under-1000/ rent isn't 4k for a thousand sq foot appartment. Also minimawage jobs in California are 11.00 per hour and the average hours hold income in California is on the low end 60k and the median 97k this is lower to middle class. New York has the highest rent in the United States the median rent for a studio is 3,700 per month. In any city that you have the opportunity to succeed of course your going to spend more for living or everyone would move there. The people who want to be successful and who take things serious aren't the ones complaining about rent. You could live in a place such as Oklahoma where you can pay 500 for an 1000 sq foot appartment but minimawage is 7.25 per hour, where the public education is completely out dated. There are several other states that are aweful as well. But California isn't a failed state.
Leave, while you can? You are stupid, Lke... those expensive places have someone living in them, or the rent would go down. Do you know anything about life on earth? People are allowed to leave California, anytime, but they rarely want to, it's so nice.
The female lost me talking about gated communities and the states responsibility to make us feel like a community. Grey Davis sounded like a typical D.C. politician with the beat the same ol drum message.
That woman, Sharon, comes off as a left-wing statist. Her position is basically that the government is supposed to make everyone's life wonderful and CA hasn't been living up to her expectations. In her speech, she went on about the "state's role" in educating people, transporting people, and even providing people with their sense of community and identity. She's practically a communist saying all the things she said.
Sean L- I understood her argument, it might be the most culturally diverse, but it is separated into those cultures/ divided, everyone in their own ‘gated’ communities..
I have lived in 30 of our 50 great states. CA is a 3rd world country. 10% rich, 10% mid class, 80% poor. 20 K homes that people try to sell for 300K. Rental apts for 1200$ per month that would be 300$ in any other state. CA likes to pay more for less. I just do not understand this form of weak constitutional ethics.
I will be blunt. Socialist policies are terminal in all cases - the only question is the timescale. The more severe socialism, the more immediate and apparent the decline, if you go light socialism, you can push out the decay over decades and change course more harmlessly (rarely happens in practice) while sporadic injections of smaller waves of absence of socialism in key areas can prop up the system for a while and convince everybody things are fine due to localized growth. Democrat provinces are turning toxic and its not due to anything that's happened recently, it's simply the waves hitting the shore on what was set in motion and the final extinguishing of those future tiny areas where socialism was turned down a notch to keep the system alive while they flee to take root in more hospitable environments. Detroit is dead. Chicago and California are dying. There's not much more to say I'm sorry.
I'm a little confused are you arguing California needs more socialism? If so that's moronic! They've literally taxed the middle class virtually out of existence. This debate sucked it's just 6 liberals arguing about how to expand even more government funded programs & public sector jobs. I want to see this debate redone with conservatives/libertarians arguing for this notion. Maybe Ben Shapiro, Peter Schiff, & Art Laffer who all live or have lived in this shity leftist failed state! This debate is pathetic!
. Socialism is not the answer and more socialism is even worse. Unfortunately without understanding what policies and laws offer it,.. is even harder. And to know where its coming from is even harder. And add to that state run capitalism as in globalism, adds to the gauntlet of mis-understanding of how it works. The basic understanding of what Cali represents, is a re-patriation of globalism through socialists sustainable development protocols. In order to understand the tools and techniques, and endgame, you must understand the relationships of globalism as it relates to SB32, SB375, CalEPA, CARB, SOCAL, SCAGS etc. Under globalism wealth is transfered to the top 1%, via cheap foreign labor, and domestic credit laden consumption. The model that allows the elite to model NAFTA, TPP, here in the states is being accomplished through sustainable development UN mandates, under the global warming guise. The only thing better to the elite, than producing in Asia and Mexico at cheap wages, is producing at home at those same cheap wages. For this reason things like, stack n pack live-work co-ops, bike lanes, carbon taxes, smart meters, wildland projects, land reclamations, exhausted tax sources, restrictions on movement, fees, and smart shoes all tied into an information grid are being implemented to make way for the state run model of production that the globalists want to duplicate here in the states. Add to this the ports that are offered on the west coast and in Cali, .....well a picture starts to form. The question is not about how much socialism we can endure. The question is will we move forward under the Constitution and Bill of Rights, or will we transfer our allegiance to the UN? If the choice is for freedom to choose, individual liberties, rights and capitalism, then we must choose the constitution and bill of rights. If the choice is for socialism fuedalism, restricted freedoms, and "rights" of the collective, then you must continue devotion to a foreign entity, the UN.
Gray Davis is FOS. I left California in 2000 and glad to get out of that hell hole. Everywhere you go is traffic even when you just want to go across town, its almost a day trip. I haven't seen any improvements from what Gray said. It took them over 20 years to fix Burbank Blvd Between Burbank and No. Hollywood. Everything is too expensive. Hollywood doesn't make movies in California anymore its cheaper to film out of state and out of the country.
I do not know bout all this. but I visited California this last summer 2015. beautiful place if all these negatives are true. I wish you the best of luck.
The creators of the problems are being tasked to solve them...They actually tried to fix something that worked great ever since...we know how that turned out...
That Shriver guy said santa monica takes in 30 million and state takes 22 million, holy cow that's a lot. Why does the state need to take any money? doesn't state income tax goes to state? and sales tax...?
That governor is so flamboyantly gay. But yes very sad. My Family Left California in the 90's. America looks like California did in the 80's like Ann C. Said. Almost time to leave the whole country!
Is there an updated debate on this motion? If not, would really love one. Andreas needs to return! Great orator! O’Donnel was also good, but more for charismatic personality, not intellectual (though, he likely knew he couldn’t win on intellectual facts, so went for connecting w/ the audience).
When I heard that that class of '74 alumnus Jerry Brown was re-elected as governor in 2010, I thanked God I had the intelligence to have moved to another state. Take a wild guess as to in which state I now reside.
I wonder if Korea has hundreds of thousands of white Europeans. I have a feeling they don't. So how can you expect to have a community of CA residents in your white country if you allow a bunch of other groups to pour into the state? Groups that are a completely different race and culture. Who speak a different language and practice a different religion. How do you expect them to become Americans as if they were white people? Dumb idea. Just importing a bunch of people from a different county isn't going to magically change them into Americans who speak English and take on our culture and values.
Well the people who settled this country where white English speaking Europeans. Being white and English speaking would be a start. Capitalism is obviously the only system that has ever worked to produce wealth and keep people from starving, so I would think Americans would embrace it. The hard working white people who built this country were never asked to vote on the immigration act of 1965, so now whites are 60 vs 90% of the population. The rest is mostly third worlders. Just curious, have you ever had hunger pains but couldn't afford to buy food to eat? Ever lived in a bad neighborhood? Give up capitalism and make white the minority and this will be your future life. To rap up, being an American, means you are a hard working white person with a good job or profitable business. Someone who has long established family roots that go back hundreds of years. Someone who speaks proper English and respects the constitution and laws. Also this person should be ambitious and look to make as much money as possible.
I know more from outside of University, from studying for myself. The education system is pathetic learn for yourself. I have 2 degrees, I could have gotten them on my own, far better than any University could have taught me.
How could they not find one conservative to debate that California is a failed state? Any reasonable person would have ripped the Governor on the job he's done.
California is a huge, dynamic State. Like any other State, we have problems. We have a long history of working through our problems and moving ahead. That's why California has the strongest, largest economy of any State in the United States.
All your responses seem to assume that I don't think that California or NY are fucking up, which they are. What I disagree with is that Texas isn't failed as well as CA and NY.
I just arrived in Tucson three weeks ago. I am retired and living on a fixed income just above three times the poverty line. I could choose to live spending sixty percent of my income in California or pay thirty percent of my disposable income. It was so easy of a choice to make. I ain't got the do re mi boys!
Schwarzenegger was the governor and the leader. A leader takes credit, but he or she must take the blame, too. Ronald Reagan, a conservative, deserved credit pulling the country out of a major recession in the 1980s. But Bush Jr., a conservative, must take the blame for crashing the US econ and the global econ, resulting in those bankruptcies. If we didn't have the Great Recession, there would be no bankruptcies b/c those cities would get tax revenues as normal.
Its a good debate which gives a good insight about California. California state has many achievements and some drawbacks. In my opinion California cannot be called as a complete failed state. It has been successful in many areas for many years but the points highlighted such as how well the state performs in supporting the weak against strong in education, pension, etc, neglecting key industries, accessibility to global institutions in the state. All these issues do need attention and have to be taken care of. Otherwise these issues do have the potential to take the state towards failure. These issues should be taken care for the achievements of the state to sustain long.
"those bankruptcies" are not the sole reason for the cities going bankrupt. It's the liberal policies that controlled them for so long. In each one of the cites, including Detroit, what's the #1 expenditure?? Public worker pay, pensions, and healthcare!! Democrats are whored out to the unions, so they give them everything they want! Grey Davis (D) signed off on the largest pay, pension, and HC increase for public workers in the history of CA back in '99 & everybody else followed right along.
I'm not surprised at the affirmative result. Ronald Reagan also started the policy trend to disintegrate the middle class in favor of the rich while he was governor of California.
"Except for Texas." Income Inequality Between the Rich and Poor: 9th Income Inequality Between the Rich and the Middle Class: 5th Median Household Income: 34th Home Ownership Rate: 44th Homeowner’s Insurance Affordability: 46th Personal Bankruptcy Filings Rate, Per Capita: 39th Percent of Households with Internet Access: 42nd
Environmental protections are probably one of the only things that is keeping Texas from sinking even lower than it already is. Considering how little regulation keeps them drilling every other possible place, it's not harmful to the subsidies.
Not only Bush Jr. was at fault, his conservative friends were also running congress, approving the tax cut that cost the federal gov't over $1 trillion in lost revenues and, at the same time, went on a spending spree, including the war in Iraq. Conservatives believed Bush's economic policy would stimulate the econ and increase tax revenues for the gov't but it was failure, affect the econ to this day. BTW, CA had a Republican governor for 8 years. His name? Schwarzenegger.
VJ seems to be saying- "We're already deep in debt and we're spending even more money on unproven green tech and we have a lot of minorities so we're ok..." total non-sequitir...
Salvatore Zagra They shipped our industrial center in the mid west to China so California can be an importation hub so they can employ all the Mexicans there. So what the fuck are you talking about. Are you fucking stupid?
The cost of living in Texas is very high in the long run. With the poor public education system, the lack of health care for its citizens, and the difficulty to get anything besides a low paying wage job, you have the perfect recipe for systematic poverty. That's the problem with Texas - extreme short sighted policy making.
"People vote with their feet." This makes the huge assumption that people are fully informed and always make the best possible decision for themselves (they don't). There was a point during the early 30s where there were more people leaving the USA for the Soviet Union for work. Turns out it was a terrible decision. Texas also carries lots of hidden costs of living that are passed onto the common man like high property taxes for cheap land, or having a shitty public education system.
Texas has a $27 Billion budget hole which will cost education about $9 Billion in cuts. It is expected to cost about 100,000 teachers their jobs, class sizes in high school will increase to 35, and that is just for this year alone. Two years from now, they will be faced with yet another $10B in the hole because of the "structural deficit" created by Governor Perry in 2006.
Well according to a Reuters article back in Feb, the liability is over $300 billion state wide. As far as the ILLEGALS go, well it their fault for not being able get the money back. Don't come here ILLEGALLY. Keep buying oil from the middle east?? We have PLENTY of oil here!! Our dependency of foreign oil is fading, we just need to go get more of it. Heck, even Bloomberg says we will out produce the Saudi's by 2020.
I really don't care about Hollywood. I care about thousands upon thousands of homeless. Major businesses leaving . Californians keep voting the same people into office and expect a different outcome.
5-25, 15, we're going with rough numbers. Semantics aside, 5-25 billion is not heavily subsidized? At the state level? What would be "heavily subsidized" according to your standards? For a guy that respects Texas for only taking money when they "really need it" you seem to have a really high standard for what constitutes "heavily subsidized." Fossil fuels have a near monopoly on the energy market (85%). For such an overbearing presence in the market, they sure get a lot of unnecessary help!
California is a wonderful place to live! We're not perfect, but we are only getting wealthier and stronger. Yes, it's expensive, but that's just the free market at work.
This debate should be held today and if it was the answer would be absolutely clear that California is a failed state. 8 years later the results are in and it is inarguably a failed state. I find it amusing that the people arguing in favor of California point out how increased bureaucracy taxes and red tape are somehow great solutions to the problems there. That is exactly what is the problem. Of course bureaucrats will never see bureaucracy red tape and brutal tax burdens as problems. Now 8 years later millions of people have left the state and anybody that can find a Walmart job in other states and can afford to rent a U-Haul truck is getting the fuck out of there. 😅😁
I have new neighbors. In KANSAS from California. Very nice people, to be fair I was shocked at that as we all know California is the troublemaker of the U.S. and maybe the world by setting the worst example of a state ever conceived. They are thrilled to be out of that Shithole, as they call it and among people that still believe in freedom. This video is five years old now and still very relevant only the sad truth is California is even worse than it was then. Now there are Millions of people Leaving California in search of a better life. California is a perfect example of Socialism and how it can't work.
Y'know, these people, who NEVER HAVE to miss a meal; who DON'T have to do without a roof over their head, (HELLO, Maslow...)...WHY, then, DON'T these wealthy and liberal ideas (let's help the poor; YEAH, well, why don't YOU open YOUR homes; why don't YOU step up with a simple meal, etc?); WHY is the help/ "aid" all talk, and NO direct, positive ACTION? (Hello, former CA gov of CA...). OR, is it all talk? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
You're missing something. Cities in CA aren't the only ones filing for bankruptcy. Detroit and other cities also filed or are facing bankruptcies. Also, CA did have a Republican governor for 8 years by the name Arnold Schwarzenegar (2003-2011). Keep in mind that this great recession has affected the global economy in Europe and Asia. That's why other countries are still in a depression (Greece) or a recession. Clearly, it falls under Republican's leadership in Washington, DC.
"The credit crisis hardly affected them at all." LOL. I needed that. "They don't take federal money unless they need to." And who determines what's needed and what's not? The extremely powerful Republican party? Your assertion that they're the "most independent" in this country doesn't really hold water considering that they need to get bailed out of their HUGE debt crisis by the feds. I didn't say you were out of line, I said it was irrelevant. Which it is.
The Koch brothers and corporations do the same thing. They give millions of $ to Republicans. Thanks to the help of the US Supreme Court, corporations are considered people and are allowed to donate unlimited amount of $ to RepubliCONS. Keep in mind that when a budget is passed, it's based on a normal economic cycle, not based on a major recession. But when the Great Recession occurred, not only those cities became bankrupted, Spain and Greece needed a bailout as well.
I watched a video yesterday on UA-cam of a lady walking in this little shopping district and it looked like a latin american festival there were stands lining the streets selling counterfeit goods and foods no refrigeration there were bugs crawling all over food hell there was a guy selling "fresh" crawfish out of a damn baby stroller not a cube of ice in sight and all cash transactions so you know there is no taxes and most of them I'm sure were illegals that's pretty damn sad they let this happen here in Ohio you can't even let your kids set up a lemonade stand but its perfectly fine for hundreds of illegals to set up a market every weekend and pay not taxes and have no standards of care for the food they are serving absolutely shameful California is a cancer upon this country's back
This was back a few years now?? What have they been doing? This is insane! The Kool aid has been around for awhile and none has tried a new flavor yet! By now???
California is a state where people go to create their own destiny and to chase their dreams. If your relying on the state or governments assistance then yes the isn't going to work for you. But if you go to California because your going to make the state work for you then the state of Califoria will not fail you.
The $300 billions were accumulated over many years. It didn't happen suddenly in one year. The decisions were determined during a solid econ, not during a bad econ. However, the state is reforming it due to the Great Recession. The illegals know employers need them to work in the farm fields and for low paying jobs that Americans don't want. No, oil won't last forever. What you meant is natural gas, which the US has more than Saudi Arabia.
I'm gonna unapologetically say Hollywood. It's not perfect but you have to recognise it's the reason for the existence of James Bond, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, The Hunger Games and Batman, not to mention HBO. People can sniff all they want but that's a lot of the world's entertainment financed right there.
California is not the next Mexico.
California is the next Venezuela.
Wow...your crystal ball wasn’t lying.
San Francisco is a dirtbags shithole par excellence.
And this was taped BEFORE the mass exodus of 2020.
Well this video is 7 years old. If the resolution wasn't true back then, it sure is now.
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More Californians leaving in 2018.
It's inevitable with high property costs,heavy taxation and over crowding.
40 million in 2020, those who leave, can't afford it.
6 years later its worse
Daquan Roman says:
"6 years later its worse"
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What's worse?
"Jerry Brown’s Legacy: A $6.1 Billion Budget Surplus in California" www.wsj.com/articles/jerry-browns-legacy-a-6-1-billion-budget-surplus-in-california-1515624022
When the (Republican) terminator governor left the office in 2011(which the year this video was posted), the debt he left behind was $27 billion. It was tripled during his term.
Just imagine how good California would have been without him.
Where are you getting your information?
allgoo19 You do realize the state debt was at 155 billion in 2015 right? That doesn't include unfunded liabilities either which have gone through the roof in recent years.
michael mancuso says:
"allgoo19 You do realize the state debt was at 155 billion in 2015 right?..."
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No.
Never heard of it.
Show me the article.
I'll read it
If it's true, it would give Governor Brown more credit.
So, show it to me.
allgoo19 ballotpedia.org/California_state_budget_and_finances
allgoo19 this the current debt amount including local municipalities but excludes unfunded liabilities. Nearly doubles when they are included. www.usdebtclock.org/state-debt-clocks/state-of-california-debt-clock.html
Van Jones says California isn't a failed state because (quote) "solutions are on the way" ....Well Van why is there the need for "solutions" if you're arguing everything's fine? Why is this even up for debate if everything's fine? Where are debates on other states?
He gave a solution, there was pollution on a pier, and they prepared a solution in case a handful of kids got sick, ....
Blazingg! Nice observation....why a solution if it's fine. This is CA logic that literally makes my brain seize if I am around it too much. I live here and it is prevalent. They reason things with their emotions, which are fickle. Facts exist separate from feelings-most of them do not really understand this. They think if they have strong feelings, then their view is right here. It's pretty nuts. I can't take much more here. It's like I am trapped in a foreign country even though it's my country. I come last. Whites are the enemy.
Van jones is a pseudo intellectual he always acts so uppedy!
jones is an idiot
Ask yourself in the history of the world has anything ever been "fine"?
Yikes! He said "Global Society"
RIP California.
LOL!!! former "FAILED CA GOVERNOR GRAY DAVIS"!!! debating why California in "NOT A FAILED STATE"!!!!!
People worry about Greece and its debt but CA's economy is ten times larger...if the drought goes on the economy will collapse...
Will Hart The drought? Agriculture is 1% of California's economy. There is plenty of water for the productive urban areas. It's Ag that uses 90% of the state's water and if it gets bad enough, the state will step in and make sure urban areas get theirs and Ag is hung out to dry.
Will Hart only large due to nasa, federal top secret jobs, illegals etc
California is like a snow ball.rolling down hill.the faster it roll.the bigger the snow ball gets
I love the land of my birth, California, but I no longer live there because of all it's evils and corruption. I am a Christian, a republican, a true to US Constitution woman. But I am now living in Texas with people who share my values.
The State of Jefferson is much needed to deliver Conservatives to a land of their own!
Van Jones has the same answer for each point. "We have big solutions for big problems". What are these "big" solutions? How and when are they to be implemented?
Always be careful when someone says "global society".
Thanks for the advise, I've never heard this terminology gs, now I know.
Silicon valley employees can't even live in the state, a lot are opting to live in reno and then commute few days a week via air travel, doing this weekly is still cheaper than living in that failed state.
yeah but all the tech companies employees are homeless. who can afford a rent of $4,000 or 1000 square foot home for half million dollars...#leave while you can
Lke Mccl for real start a tech company anywhere else in the world.... That's what tech is for!
Lke Mccl that's an outrageous statement here a link of several appartments in safe zines that are under 1000 per month and they are all 1000 square foot your completely unrealistic
www.apartments.com/los-angeles-ca/under-1000/
rent isn't 4k for a thousand sq foot appartment. Also minimawage jobs in California are 11.00 per hour and the average hours hold income in California is on the low end 60k and the median 97k this is lower to middle class. New York has the highest rent in the United States the median rent for a studio is 3,700 per month. In any city that you have the opportunity to succeed of course your going to spend more for living or everyone would move there. The people who want to be successful and who take things serious aren't the ones complaining about rent.
You could live in a place such as Oklahoma where you can pay 500 for an 1000 sq foot appartment but minimawage is 7.25 per hour, where the public education is completely out dated. There are several other states that are aweful as well. But California isn't a failed state.
Leave, while you can? You are stupid, Lke... those expensive places have someone living in them, or the rent would go down. Do you know anything about life on earth? People are allowed to leave California, anytime, but they rarely want to, it's so nice.
The female lost me talking about gated communities and the states responsibility to make us feel like a community. Grey Davis sounded like a typical D.C. politician with the beat the same ol drum message.
That woman, Sharon, comes off as a left-wing statist. Her position is basically that the government is supposed to make everyone's life wonderful and CA hasn't been living up to her expectations. In her speech, she went on about the "state's role" in educating people, transporting people, and even providing people with their sense of community and identity. She's practically a communist saying all the things she said.
Sean L- I understood her argument, it might be the most culturally diverse, but it is separated into those cultures/ divided, everyone in their own ‘gated’ communities..
bluo88, her POV was she was from europe where its socialist and so she expected it so. But look at CA now, New CA is going to breakaway.
I have lived in 30 of our 50 great states. CA is a 3rd world country. 10% rich, 10% mid class, 80% poor. 20 K homes that people try to sell for 300K. Rental apts for 1200$ per month that would be 300$ in any other state. CA likes to pay more for less. I just do not understand this form of weak constitutional ethics.
So, professional Hobo? ; 0
16 Reasons California is a failed State: Every year Jerry Brown Governor!
How the hell did he get 16 Years as Governor?
Commiefornia is the new world Sodom and Gomorrah !
Socialism how to get a 3rd world nation/state.
It's called the free market and from a state who pays more to the Federal government than it takes in which is rare.
USA IN DEPRESSION IN SLOW MOTION AND THE ECONOMICS DO NOT IMPROVE FOR AT LEAST 15 YEARS, SIGH.... SAD....I CRY FOR AMERICA...
I will be blunt. Socialist policies are terminal in all cases - the only question is the timescale. The more severe socialism, the more immediate and apparent the decline, if you go light socialism, you can push out the decay over decades and change course more harmlessly (rarely happens in practice) while sporadic injections of smaller waves of absence of socialism in key areas can prop up the system for a while and convince everybody things are fine due to localized growth. Democrat provinces are turning toxic and its not due to anything that's happened recently, it's simply the waves hitting the shore on what was set in motion and the final extinguishing of those future tiny areas where socialism was turned down a notch to keep the system alive while they flee to take root in more hospitable environments. Detroit is dead. Chicago and California are dying. There's not much more to say I'm sorry.
I'm a little confused are you arguing California needs more socialism? If so that's moronic! They've literally taxed the middle class virtually out of existence. This debate sucked it's just 6 liberals arguing about how to expand even more government funded programs & public sector jobs. I want to see this debate redone with conservatives/libertarians arguing for this notion. Maybe Ben Shapiro, Peter Schiff, & Art Laffer who all live or have lived in this shity leftist failed state! This debate is pathetic!
Thats why everbody lives on the streets in tents in Europe!
How interesting, that California found it's solution that had nothing to do with your "socialist" theories.
. Socialism is not the answer and more socialism is even worse. Unfortunately without understanding what policies and laws offer it,.. is even harder. And to know where its coming from is even harder. And add to that state run capitalism as in globalism, adds to the gauntlet of mis-understanding of how it works. The basic understanding of what Cali represents, is a re-patriation of globalism through socialists sustainable development protocols. In order to understand the tools and techniques, and endgame, you must understand the relationships of globalism as it relates to SB32, SB375, CalEPA, CARB, SOCAL, SCAGS etc.
Under globalism wealth is transfered to the top 1%, via cheap foreign labor, and domestic credit laden consumption.
The model that allows the elite to model NAFTA, TPP, here in the states is being accomplished through sustainable development UN mandates, under the global warming guise. The only thing better to the elite, than producing in Asia and Mexico at cheap wages, is producing at home at those same cheap wages.
For this reason things like, stack n pack live-work co-ops, bike lanes, carbon taxes, smart meters, wildland projects, land reclamations, exhausted tax sources, restrictions on movement, fees, and smart shoes all tied into an information grid are being implemented to make way for the state run model of production that the globalists want to duplicate here in the states.
Add to this the ports that are offered on the west coast and in Cali, .....well a picture starts to form.
The question is not about how much socialism we can endure. The question is will we move forward under the Constitution and Bill of Rights, or will we transfer our allegiance to the UN?
If the choice is for freedom to choose, individual liberties, rights and capitalism, then we must choose the constitution and bill of rights.
If the choice is for socialism fuedalism, restricted freedoms, and "rights" of the collective, then you must continue devotion to a foreign entity, the UN.
Socialism work good as long as they don't run out of other peoples money !!
If you have to debate if a state has failed.......it failed.
Gray Davis is FOS. I left California in 2000 and glad to get out of that hell hole. Everywhere you go is traffic even when you just want to go across town, its almost a day trip. I haven't seen any improvements from what Gray said. It took them over 20 years to fix Burbank Blvd Between Burbank and No. Hollywood. Everything is too expensive. Hollywood doesn't make movies in California anymore its cheaper to film out of state and out of the country.
yes they are ranked 8th in the world but they used to be 6th. They are heading in the wrong direction.
I do not know bout all this. but I visited California this last summer 2015. beautiful place if all these negatives are true. I wish you the best of luck.
That's originally why people moved there. Then people there got greedy.
Gray Davis is delusional. He still doesn't get 'it'.
8 Years later, and it's even worse.
at 1:36:45 He says they are more generous. THATS YOUR PROBLEM. You are being overly generous with OPM.
The creators of the problems are being tasked to solve them...They actually tried to fix something that worked great ever since...we know how that turned out...
California is a failed state because while 80% are suffering, we have intellectuals here enjoying a mental exercise at their expense.
I Agree With The Team Governor Gray Davis and Lawrence O'Connor and Van Jones.
Lol. You need help or are in denial
That Shriver guy said santa monica takes in 30 million and state takes 22 million, holy cow that's a lot. Why does the state need to take any money? doesn't state income tax goes to state? and sales tax...?
$10 BILLION FOR ILLEGALS!! WTH?? WHY?
That's each Year!
Lawrence O'Donnell is a loudmouthed demagogue and he pisses me off nearly every time he says anything.
Why is diversity good? If it's good, why is it that people run to live with people of their own races and cultures when given the first chance.
John Jones not good in California since you only have one party
That governor is so flamboyantly gay. But yes very sad. My Family Left California in the 90's. America looks like California did in the 80's like Ann C. Said. Almost time to leave the whole country!
I would love for IQ2 to do this debate again today, 7 years after this debate. Things have gotten a lot worse.
Is there an updated debate on this motion? If not, would really love one. Andreas needs to return! Great orator! O’Donnel was also good, but more for charismatic personality, not intellectual (though, he likely knew he couldn’t win on intellectual facts, so went for connecting w/ the audience).
Yikes..... 😬😬😬 Hasnt gotten any better
When I heard that that class of '74 alumnus Jerry Brown was re-elected as governor in 2010, I thanked God I had the intelligence to have moved to another state. Take a wild guess as to in which state I now reside.
TEXAS!
I wonder if Korea has hundreds of thousands of white Europeans. I have a feeling they don't. So how can you expect to have a community of CA residents in your white country if you allow a bunch of other groups to pour into the state? Groups that are a completely different race and culture. Who speak a different language and practice a different religion. How do you expect them to become Americans as if they were white people? Dumb idea. Just importing a bunch of people from a different county isn't going to magically change them into Americans who speak English and take on our culture and values.
Well the people who settled this country where white English speaking Europeans. Being white and English speaking would be a start. Capitalism is obviously the only system that has ever worked to produce wealth and keep people from starving, so I would think Americans would embrace it. The hard working white people who built this country were never asked to vote on the immigration act of 1965, so now whites are 60 vs 90% of the population. The rest is mostly third worlders. Just curious, have you ever had hunger pains but couldn't afford to buy food to eat? Ever lived in a bad neighborhood? Give up capitalism and make white the minority and this will be your future life. To rap up, being an American, means you are a hard working white person with a good job or profitable business. Someone who has long established family roots that go back hundreds of years. Someone who speaks proper English and respects the constitution and laws. Also this person should be ambitious and look to make as much money as possible.
Staying in CA just for the weather is a JOKE that isn't worth the "sunshine tax"
I know more from outside of University, from studying for myself. The education system is pathetic learn for yourself. I have 2 degrees, I could have gotten them on my own, far better than any University could have taught me.
How could they not find one conservative to debate that California is a failed state? Any reasonable person would have ripped the Governor on the job he's done.
California is a huge, dynamic State. Like any other State, we have problems. We have a long history of working through our problems and moving ahead. That's why California has the strongest, largest economy of any State in the United States.
media guy - immediately suspect ..
All your responses seem to assume that I don't think that California or NY are fucking up, which they are. What I disagree with is that Texas isn't failed as well as CA and NY.
The claim that Berkeley costs, for an undergraduate degree, is $10k is false! It is $29,876 if staying on campus-; and $15k is not staying on campus.
Too many regulations and taxes. Not enough affordable housing. Failed state
I just arrived in Tucson three weeks ago. I am retired and living on a fixed income just above three times the poverty line. I could choose to live spending sixty percent of my income in California or pay thirty percent of my disposable income. It was so easy of a choice to make. I ain't got the do re mi boys!
Schwarzenegger was the governor and the leader. A leader takes credit, but he or she must take the blame, too. Ronald Reagan, a conservative, deserved credit pulling the country out of a major recession in the 1980s. But Bush Jr., a conservative, must take the blame for crashing the US econ and the global econ, resulting in those bankruptcies. If we didn't have the Great Recession, there would be no bankruptcies b/c those cities would get tax revenues as normal.
Ban Jones!
They use to have a great economy now they have a 38 billion$ deficit. Now they cost the US money
79 cents of a dollar is better than 8 million of 30 million as in santa monica.
Its a good debate which gives a good insight about California. California state has many achievements and some drawbacks. In my opinion California cannot be called as a complete failed state. It has been successful in many areas for many years but the points highlighted such as how well the state performs in supporting the weak against strong in education, pension, etc, neglecting key industries, accessibility to global institutions in the state. All these issues do need attention and have to be taken care of. Otherwise these issues do have the potential to take the state towards failure. These issues should be taken care for the achievements of the state to sustain long.
Berkley costs can range from $14,000 to $29,784 (depending on whether you live on campus or not
"those bankruptcies" are not the sole reason for the cities going bankrupt. It's the liberal policies that controlled them for so long. In each one of the cites, including Detroit, what's the #1 expenditure?? Public worker pay, pensions, and healthcare!! Democrats are whored out to the unions, so they give them everything they want! Grey Davis (D) signed off on the largest pay, pension, and HC increase for public workers in the history of CA back in '99 & everybody else followed right along.
I'm not surprised at the affirmative result. Ronald Reagan also started the policy trend to disintegrate the middle class in favor of the rich while he was governor of California.
"Except for Texas."
Income Inequality Between the Rich and Poor: 9th
Income Inequality Between the Rich and the Middle Class: 5th
Median Household Income: 34th
Home Ownership Rate: 44th
Homeowner’s Insurance Affordability: 46th
Personal Bankruptcy Filings Rate, Per Capita: 39th
Percent of Households with Internet Access: 42nd
Environmental protections are probably one of the only things that is keeping Texas from sinking even lower than it already is. Considering how little regulation keeps them drilling every other possible place, it's not harmful to the subsidies.
Not only Bush Jr. was at fault, his conservative friends were also running congress, approving the tax cut that cost the federal gov't over $1 trillion in lost revenues and, at the same time, went on a spending spree, including the war in Iraq. Conservatives believed Bush's economic policy would stimulate the econ and increase tax revenues for the gov't but it was failure, affect the econ to this day. BTW, CA had a Republican governor for 8 years. His name? Schwarzenegger.
VJ seems to be saying- "We're already deep in debt and we're spending even more money on unproven green tech and we have a lot of minorities so we're ok..." total non-sequitir...
C'mon Fault Line put California out of its MISERY.
first step in fixing a problem is realizing that there is a problem congrats
mr. Kluth,ms. Waxman and mr. Shriver oh and best of luck
The Black HEBREW SPOKE THE MOST SENSE EVERYONE ELSE WAS JUST RANTING
Capitol is flowing INTO CALIFORNIA, does that happen in failed states? Nope
Salvatore Zagra It especially happens in failed states.
@@gusgustafson2933 no, California is the 5th Largest economy in the world...without California and NY the US would be screwed economically
Salvatore Zagra They shipped our industrial center in the mid west to China so California can be an importation hub so they can employ all the Mexicans there. So what the fuck are you talking about. Are you fucking stupid?
Look at their leader Nancy Pelosi and Finstien . T^hey have been pushing their failed state agenda throughout the US .
A liberal laugh fest at best!!!
Don Dressel liberal who went to Yale, taught at UC Berkley and other Ivy League schools. What have you got under your belt ?
California = Apple, Google, Facebook, excellent weathers, beautiful natures
Apple = iPod, iPhone, iPad
The cost of living in Texas is very high in the long run. With the poor public education system, the lack of health care for its citizens, and the difficulty to get anything besides a low paying wage job, you have the perfect recipe for systematic poverty. That's the problem with Texas - extreme short sighted policy making.
2019 it's looking like California is doing well the rest of U.S.A is failing.
P.S That was an exaggeration.
Van Jones is a Limousine Liberal.
There is no Federally Mandated ADA Coordinator. The Disabled have No seat at the table
"People vote with their feet." This makes the huge assumption that people are fully informed and always make the best possible decision for themselves (they don't). There was a point during the early 30s where there were more people leaving the USA for the Soviet Union for work. Turns out it was a terrible decision.
Texas also carries lots of hidden costs of living that are passed onto the common man like high property taxes for cheap land, or having a shitty public education system.
The way that I see it... to be on the, 'winning team' a panel member will not want to say, "no' and then another, 'no' simply by human nature.
When Every One has Their Rights , then No One has Any Rights.
Texas has a $27 Billion budget hole which will cost education about $9 Billion in cuts. It is expected to cost about 100,000 teachers their jobs, class sizes in high school will increase to 35, and that is just for this year alone. Two years from now, they will be faced with yet another $10B in the hole because of the "structural deficit" created by Governor Perry in 2006.
Grey Davis? He got thrown out of office! He doesn't even have a drivers license!
Well according to a Reuters article back in Feb, the liability is over $300 billion state wide. As far as the ILLEGALS go, well it their fault for not being able get the money back. Don't come here ILLEGALLY. Keep buying oil from the middle east?? We have PLENTY of oil here!! Our dependency of foreign oil is fading, we just need to go get more of it. Heck, even Bloomberg says we will out produce the Saudi's by 2020.
A decade on and it's so bad that Californians probably miss Gray Davis
Watching this on the 10 year anniversary of this debate
I really don't care about Hollywood. I care about thousands upon thousands of homeless. Major businesses leaving . Californians keep voting the same people into office and expect a different outcome.
5-25, 15, we're going with rough numbers. Semantics aside, 5-25 billion is not heavily subsidized? At the state level? What would be "heavily subsidized" according to your standards? For a guy that respects Texas for only taking money when they "really need it" you seem to have a really high standard for what constitutes "heavily subsidized."
Fossil fuels have a near monopoly on the energy market (85%). For such an overbearing presence in the market, they sure get a lot of unnecessary help!
YOU DON'T FIX SOMETHING IF ITS NOT BROKEN!!!😂😂😂
California is a wonderful place to live! We're not perfect, but we are only getting wealthier and stronger. Yes, it's expensive, but that's just the free market at work.
Supply and demand.one reason rent is so high.the government created this nightmare.it is a plane
This debate should be held today and if it was the answer would be absolutely clear that California is a failed state. 8 years later the results are in and it is inarguably a failed state. I find it amusing that the people arguing in favor of California point out how increased bureaucracy taxes and red tape are somehow great solutions to the problems there. That is exactly what is the problem. Of course bureaucrats will never see bureaucracy red tape and brutal tax burdens as problems. Now 8 years later millions of people have left the state and anybody that can find a Walmart job in other states and can afford to rent a U-Haul truck is getting the fuck out of there. 😅😁
I have new neighbors. In KANSAS from California. Very nice people, to be fair I was shocked at that as we all know California is the troublemaker of the U.S. and maybe the world by setting the worst example of a state ever conceived. They are thrilled to be out of that Shithole, as they call it and among people that still believe in freedom. This video is five years old now and still very relevant only the sad truth is California is even worse than it was then. Now there are Millions of people Leaving California in search of a better life. California is a perfect example of Socialism and how it can't work.
Y'know, these people, who NEVER HAVE to miss a meal; who DON'T have to do without a roof over their head, (HELLO, Maslow...)...WHY, then, DON'T these wealthy and liberal ideas (let's help the poor; YEAH, well, why don't YOU open YOUR homes; why don't YOU step up with a simple meal, etc?); WHY is the help/ "aid" all talk, and NO direct, positive ACTION? (Hello, former CA gov of CA...). OR, is it all talk? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
You're missing something. Cities in CA aren't the only ones filing for bankruptcy. Detroit and other cities also filed or are facing bankruptcies. Also, CA did have a Republican governor for 8 years by the name Arnold Schwarzenegar (2003-2011).
Keep in mind that this great recession has affected the global economy in Europe and Asia. That's why other countries are still in a depression (Greece) or a recession. Clearly, it falls under Republican's leadership in Washington, DC.
"The credit crisis hardly affected them at all." LOL. I needed that. "They don't take federal money unless they need to." And who determines what's needed and what's not? The extremely powerful Republican party? Your assertion that they're the "most independent" in this country doesn't really hold water considering that they need to get bailed out of their HUGE debt crisis by the feds.
I didn't say you were out of line, I said it was irrelevant. Which it is.
The Koch brothers and corporations do the same thing. They give millions of $ to Republicans. Thanks to the help of the US Supreme Court, corporations are considered people and are allowed to donate unlimited amount of $ to RepubliCONS. Keep in mind that when a budget is passed, it's based on a normal economic cycle, not based on a major recession. But when the Great Recession occurred, not only those cities became bankrupted, Spain and Greece needed a bailout as well.
Roy Long your pal Obama brought that "corporations are people" bullshit to light. In order to skirt donor rules and laws. Try again.
By the minute 8:44 I was already convinced. The shortest debate ever.
CALIFORNIA USED TO BE THE 6TH BIGGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD!!!😤😤😤
Gray Davis is a menace to society.
I watched a video yesterday on UA-cam of a lady walking in this little shopping district and it looked like a latin american festival there were stands lining the streets selling counterfeit goods and foods no refrigeration there were bugs crawling all over food hell there was a guy selling "fresh" crawfish out of a damn baby stroller not a cube of ice in sight and all cash transactions so you know there is no taxes and most of them I'm sure were illegals that's pretty damn sad they let this happen here in Ohio you can't even let your kids set up a lemonade stand but its perfectly fine for hundreds of illegals to set up a market every weekend and pay not taxes and have no standards of care for the food they are serving absolutely shameful California is a cancer upon this country's back
UA-cam won't let me link the studies. Can't you copy and paste into a Google search box? How old are you, 65?
This was back a few years now?? What have they been doing? This is insane! The Kool aid has been around for awhile and none has tried a new flavor yet! By now???
"Buhu why isn't California Europe with better weather?" This is getting boring!
California is a state where people go to create their own destiny and to chase their dreams. If your relying on the state or governments assistance then yes the isn't going to work for you. But if you go to California because your going to make the state work for you then the state of Califoria will not fail you.
The $300 billions were accumulated over many years. It didn't happen suddenly in one year. The decisions were determined during a solid econ, not during a bad econ. However, the state is reforming it due to the Great Recession.
The illegals know employers need them to work in the farm fields and for low paying jobs that Americans don't want.
No, oil won't last forever. What you meant is natural gas, which the US has more than Saudi Arabia.
I'm gonna unapologetically say Hollywood. It's not perfect but you have to recognise it's the reason for the existence of James Bond, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, The Hunger Games and Batman, not to mention HBO. People can sniff all they want but that's a lot of the world's entertainment financed right there.
This weekend 800,000 CA residents will be without power. Enjoy,