That what I remember how the 69 Z-28 ran when I was a passenger in one in 1972. The car only had 29,000 miles on it. My friend Mike had just got home from Vietnam and bought the Z. I was only 15 yrs old. But .50 cents bought a gallon of gas. We used up a gallon doing burnouts all the way down the street. My mother sure didn't like him for that. That car etched a permanent memory on me!
Hello. My cousin owned one. I remember the car would vibrate at idle due to the camshaft high lift. About 1971 . I had a blind date that night . He set it up. Worked 💪
You might need your internal tachometer looked at. That sounds more like 6500 rpm, and he had to punish the clutch to keep it from bogging in 2nd gear. 290 hp and a 3.73 gear ratio isn't the best drag race combination.
@@r.d.riddle2068 Just a heads up, the z-28 was not intended to be a 1/4 miler, it was bred to be a road course screamer regularly hitting 8,000 rpms......that my friend is why the 69 302 is a legend!
It was a high rpm engine designed for road racing, so it was pretty gutless off the line (due to not producing much low rpm torque) unless you ran 4.11 or numerically higher gears, and although the engine made more than the advertised 290 horsepower, a G.M. engineer who helped design the engine, has been quoted as having said that the true output was about 330 h.p., so I wouldn't think of it as one of the best small blocks, unless you are someone who just loves a high revving engine.
Sounds absolutely awesome. I miss the 70's. The streets were crawling with muscle cars like this. The high school parking lot had an inventory of cars that would be worth millions now. Even my $1000 57 Chevy 2 dr. Hardtop would be worth $20,000 now. It's so sad the direction America went. Oh well, it's back to playing with Hot Wheels.,
@@corymacdonald383 yeah but the new cars have no soul and are pretty damn ugly they're just machines. The older vehicles just have something about them that feels more connected. More hands were on the older cars and each worker on the assembly line put something of themselves into it, the newer stuff is all made by soulless automation
No shit, I was10 in 1970, my brother was a huge gear head, had the fastest and most bad ass car’s, vetted were his fav, I would lay in bed , we lived in a small town and our house was just down the street from the main road, laying in bed I would listen to the barking and squealing tires and try to pick who’s car I was hearing, great times
Had a 68 Z thst wss a beast. I was in the Marines and l drove it cross country 3 times. Wonderful road car. Only had to sdjust the valves on l got there. On off paydays she got us beer and gas money. Dark green white stripes. I'm 72 now and still dream about her. OORAH
I bought one the last of some 30 fitted blocks old stock 302 she sure was sweet I ran her in a 68 Camaro I had & then later in a 70 Vette. Still remember most all the specs, Valve lash was 30, was a solid lift cam. Bore was standard 4 inch stroke was 3 inch with pinky rods. The pistons were 11 to 1 ratio. I believe it was the large journal solid steel crank she did run good at them high RPM's after all she was made to do her thing in the pony car races against the Mustang 302 & that she did. The Chevy 302 will always be my favorite.
I live in Loudon NH and watched the 69-71 Trans Am series here. Donahue in 69 with the 302 Camaro and my favorite Parnelli Jones in 70 with Fords’ 302. Great racing! Donahue went to AMC and the Javelin. George and Parnelli 15 and 16 were great to watch with the school bus orange Mustangs. These cars were about 600hp but probably 500 lbs lighter than the street versions. That series was great. All Detroit companies had an entry.
@@evorider3689 No way José. I'd venture to say a solid roller cam, (but could be wrong)... Compression is in the ballpark of stock. Definitely better heads. Stock is an honest 350 or so horse, I'd give this one... Oh around 470-ish flywheel IF it is a 302. HOWEVER.. Listen close. 👆 Ya know it could be an LS swap spinning an M-22 and 4.88's. Hmm??? 🤔
@@CSXT8250 It not an LS heard built restored plenty of those 302 cars. Had a big cam stock sure could be stock Definitely has lower than stock geras though
I love the sound of a high revving engine, as I built a few back in the day!, Heck I even revved up a 68 Olds 455 that one of my Nova's had in it when I bought it, till I heard that ever loud knocking , but it was worth it! Small blocks forever for me!
Had one. It was like a 2-stroke dirt bike. If you were in it & in high RPMs, it held its own. But anything less than full-out, in the R’s, it was a dog.
Dirt track racer's were building this engine before the factory did. They took the 327 and put the 283 crank and rods in it and called it a 301. Later on after the release of the 400 they started putting together 377's and 383's by using a combination of the 350 and 400 parts. I don't know what you would end up with if you put a 327 (if even possible) crank and rods in a 400 block. Chevy's are awesome plus easy and cheaper to build, to think it all started with a 265.
High school 1980 , I hear for the first time off in the distance...the hi-rev. Scream of the Chevy 302 in a maroon Z28 I was in awe ,I never had even heard of one... thought those magic numbers belonged to Ford! The car the motor the gearing all produced a memory, no a legend in my mind ! Oh to the days of thunder ,an cruising division st. hey SARG
One of the most if not the most underated Engines ever Built ( except 4 the Mopar 340). my Bud showed up one day at work Summer of 69 with a 69 green Zapper. I saw him Race Vettes with that little Mouse and he even nipped a few of them too. First time I ever heard a 302 Z turn on , a chill ran up my Spine. My first ride? Awesome!. Thank u Mr. Duntov. The 290 hp. rating on this Motor (DZ 302) was a Joke. Try 360 to 375 more like and in that light little A frame? Forget about it!! Oneshot.
More like 7000 tops,unless that motor is set up with a billet crank,and alloy rods you ain't taking a steel rodded mill up to 8500 for a very long time. That want even close to 9000
@@Iandiorio1 steel rod dirt track motors live at 8500 all the time. I’d be more worried about piss poor valve train stability with those stud rockers and I’m sure no girdle.
@@78freewheeler I've spun small block fords to 8500 with steel rods and higher but they have killer l19 bolts or carr bolts and the rotators are stupid zero light. That motor didn't sound like 8000 to me though.It sounded healthy but not 8000 plus rpm healthy. I've ran parabolic carrillo Nascar 6.200 rods in small block fords with power adders and its not advised with the use of a turbo or blower but we did it a few years ago,ran it on the waste gate making a measly 8lbs and she ran 9 flat at 159.The tune will fat and timing managed conservatively. Cool video either way.
@@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor I realize that, but stock they were mid to high 14 second cars, and the faster muscle cars of that time were literally a full second faster in the quarter. Some of them even a little more than a full second faster. Don't get me wrong. 14 seconds was perfectly respectable back then, but bone stock, these cars were far from being the giant killers that so many people today think they were.
Makes me miss my 1970 1/2 split bumper LT-1 350 it loved to pull all the way to 6,500 rpm it was a factory solid flat tappet cam and had a factory style ratchet shifter
@@gordocarbo wasn't the original engine the engine had been replaced three times painted 4. I think the only factory thing was the transmission and shifter
1/4 mile at Keller Airport. 1968 396/375 Chevelle up against 1969 z28 with the GM cam kit. No slicks. The Z pulled two cars by 2-3 shift...the big block couldn't pull it back before the 1/4.
Those DZ 302s were absolute SCREAMERS for such a small displacement V8. Think about how gutless the 305s were. 140 HP? Out of a V8? My 1.6L Civic made that much power. 5.7s in some of the late 70s, early 80s Camaros and Corvettes making 180 HP? My 3.0L V6 Accord made 200 stock. Sickening. The DZ 302 was an absolute marvel of it's time. Producing 290 HP/290 lb ft of torque (conservatively) out of 302 cubic inches was a freak of nature and it could rev to 7,000 RPM! To this day I'd still give anything that I own for a 69 Z28 Camaro with a DZ 302 and a 4 speed in metallic blue with white stripes. BTW, I DO own a 1997 EJ8 Honda Civic coupe with a fully built LSVTEC (1.85L DOHC VTEC 4 cylinder) with a Garrett GT3582R turbo that makes 709 whp. With slicks it ran a best of 9.86 @ 156 mph and that was with me pedaling it.
I just ran across this again , and all I can say is HOLY CRAP!!!!! That is the meanest sounding small block I've ever heard!!!!!Ooh Wee!!! Yes please 😁👍👍👍
That's definitely what a high winding Z28 engine sounds like thing of beauty Great Road Course engine for the day did I mention 4 inch bore 3-inch stroke a destroked 327 plus with a cam and heads and intake what a Powerhouse
yep...given the gearing you mentioned the 302 will be in it`s rpm range all day with a driver who lets her go! quite impressive for someone who really loves to hear an engine do what it does...scream
He's hitting 4th gear on some of those passes. That track definitely isn't a quarter mile... I'd bet he has 4:88, or even possibly 5:13 gears in that beast.
Neighbor had a 69 z28 ralley sport he bought new after Vietnam. Other neighbor had a 69 roadrunner. On dennison street sat a super bird and my dad had a 69 pacecar. Lady on paper route had a 70 rt 440 in the garage. Bob Hagen had 2 500kr shelby's. Just another day in the 70s.
Power can impress, looks can draw allure, but nothing stirs me like the sound of a proper engine. Heck, I bought an R1 just because of the raucous bellow it makes. This is a proper engine!
Short stroke does help, but the real key for high rpms is the cam! Those 30-30 single pattern cams are no joke (advertised dur. 314 lift .485) lived at high rpms.
Have the utmost respect for the dz, would bet everything I have that motor is far from stock, spent alot of time in one a friend owned and it ran hard.....but not like that one....sounds and runs amazing!!!
Ever wonder what a 5.13 rear end gear sounds like with a 2.20 low gear close ratio trans. in a 8000 RPM small block 302 Z/28 ? WELL NOW YOU KNOW !! THIS IS THE GIANT KILLER !!
A teenager in Nampa Idaho in mid 1968 took delivery from Edmark Chevrolet of Nampa the car was delivered to Edmark as we're all most Z-28 with the engine mostly dis assembled in the trunk for insurance purposes the cars had 12.5 to 1 solid lifter forged.Backed by the venerable Muncie M-22 close ratio laid down by 12 bolt 4:11 in most cases.redline was the problem it was high and he blew the engine within a very few days ordered another bullet .most of them probably had a similar fate .so morale of story be glad you have rev limited roller stuff.on sticky steel belted not bias ply f-70 ply glass gt 7"
Luck you ! Uncle bought one new, I was a kid begging him to hang on to it til I was 16...was his daily. Why guys are scared to drive them now is like being mentally ill. Why NOT drive every chance you get?
If anyone has a Chevy 302 "driver" still, it's because they didn't blow it up and simply enjoy the wonderful music it makes. Drive it w reasonable care and you'll reap it's rewards. Classic, unparalleled motor.
That is correct, half ass attempt to get into TransAm. They built a monster with off the shelf parts. The 302 wasn’t engineered ground up. They got lucky, then made it work.
Back in 70, installed a 68 302 Z28 motor in a 64 Chevelle with a Pontiac 4 speed and 66 GTO 3.90 posi rear. Car was a screamer, great street car for 10 years ! Motor pulled like a freight train to 7800. Fun shifting through the gears ! Lets just say it surprised a lot of people. 295hp ? I don't think so, more like 400+. Wish I still had the car and the motor !
@@brandonbell3089 ROFLMAO ! Delusional much, Chevturd? GM/Chevy is the king of recalls. If Chevy is so great, why is the Camaro being discontinued, AGAIN? Why is Ford F-series #1 truck for 44+ years? Why did GM need a bailout and then Obama sold-off that bailout at an $11.2 billion loss? Ford didn't need/want a bailout. What Chevy year/model do you own? Sorry but Hot-Wheels cars don't count.
You know its real easy to think this is an LS engine but its not I have been a mechanic for over 35yrs and have built enough of these little monsters to know what a little tweaking here and there will make them do and that's no LS tho I must say it sounds strikingly similar.
It sounds nothing like an LS. There is really no way to make an LS\LT sound like SBC because of the firing order changes. I guess you could with custom internals but nothing of the self. The 302's were nothing more than Corvette L76 327's with a 283 crank. That is what the 67 version of the engine was, small journals and 2 bolt mains. The 67's weren't DZ either, I think they were MO's or something like that. By 68' they would use the 350 4 bolt main casting with a large journal version of the 3" crank. The casting number for DZ is unique, but it's otherwise identical to a 350 block. In term of hp they could matched the HP of the L76 taking about 600 more rpm to do it but with noticeably less torque. @@jppp1360
@Ceelow I agree, that thing is tuned so well it does sound somewhat like an LS until it revs passed 8000 rpm. I think its because the cam, heads, carb, exhaust, with the displacement are working together perfectly at that high rpm. You probably noticed that its all the car can handle to hook up on launch. Any more torque and it would just spin all the way to half track. The 302 and 327 were perfect engines for the smaller light weight cars.
The Duntov was the #097 cam, the 1969DZ came with the #140 cam. Duntov cam was old school by 1965. . www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Camaro-Z28-302-140-off-road-cam-shaft-crossram-GM-3947140-NOS/254046212891?epid=4012290244&hash=item3b2655931b:g:xD4AAOSwxDJcKSlu
I try to build a 302 back in the day for my 57 Chevy 2dht, 327 with 283 crank, Just did happen, so I got a 70 lt1 350 Things don't work out sometimes, know it sits in my 57 cameo pick up 44 years later
All time fav sbc vid! That car is getting down!! Nothing like hearing it shriek over 7k, nice job. Shame so many that own one watch this but wont even take theirs out of the garage.
The early Home engine builders/Hotrodders, came up with this engine combo.. They opened a 283 bore to 4inches, making it almost 302 ci.. The home boys called it a 301.. Once Chevy decided to build it, they called it a 302.. I had the home built version, in my 55 Chevy.. it had 11.5-1 pop'up pistons, a polished 283 Crank, 30/30 Solid Lifter cam, 327 hi performance Rods, and Fuel injection heads.. it was powerful.. Haad a close Ratio 4-speed, and later: a 57 pontiac rear with posi,nand 538 gears.. It was BAD TONTHE BONE..
They built many of these for T/A racing. The 1st 500 came with headers in trunk for SCCA Homulgation rules. Add the optional cam and they would run like this off the shoeroom floor; Pink Rods 202 Double Hump "Fuelie" Heads! We just built a short stroke Ford w/big 660 Lift Lunati Mech Roller Cam. Light weight car helps make up for Ford iron heads not flow as good as Chev. ua-cam.com/video/BvutunbpmhA/v-deo.html
Those Z-28s were really special. But the truth is a 301 was runing on drag strips long before they were i production cars.the older 283 blocks were thick and could be bored .125 in over with no problem. The 327 375 solid lifter & cam could be bought in 1966 for less than 100 bucks . It was a Duntalf cam from Chevrolet. A little porting and 5 angle valve job on power-pack heads made a fast cheap hot motor for a 55 chevrolet, back then. Fuelie type heads, roller rockers, and cheap Hedman headers, along with an afb carb off a 383 chrystler on a 327 300 hp cast iron intake was even better. A 302 is really a 301 but still a Z-28 is a force to be recognized. Those good old days were great.
Bought one new in sixty-nine, was disappointed in power with street gears ( 3.73 ) my friend had a new '69 Corvette with the 435 h.p. big block. But he had a 6-71 roots blower and manifold for a small block, one day talking he asked me if I would consider trading engines straight across because he wanted to have a blower sticking through the hood of his Vette. I jumped at the chance. We swapped and it turned my Z-28 into a monster, at least for the time period.
Some of the small blocks of that era were the best. The 302, the 289, the 318. All perfect,easy to work on and good performance. The big plus was you didn’t have to break the bank for parts. Big blocks were powerful, but getting up in the 400c.I. range was not everyone could afford.
@@JoJo-209- or the LT1 350. it basically just a bigger 302. same cam, intake, exhaust, and heads. same cylinder block and rods, just a longer stroke crank and different piston to accommodate the longer stroke.
@@shadvan9494 yes. Same difference with the 327 vs the 350... 327 was a screamer, great sbc. That's what I have in my 73 chevy vega. And I'm 25 yrs old lol I just like some old school shit too
Beautiful sounding Camaro. 302 Chevy wasn’t around long at all. 1-2 years I think. The Boss 302 with the 4” bore, 3” stroke, and Cleveland cylinder head was a 8500+ high RPM monster.
@@gordocarbo I didn’t mean a complete factory stock engine. Up the compression, roller camshaft, lighter ring package with forged pistons. Parker Funnel Web single plane intake.
That what I remember how the 69 Z-28 ran when I was a passenger in one in 1972. The car only had 29,000 miles on it. My friend Mike had just got home from Vietnam and bought the Z. I was only 15 yrs old. But .50 cents bought a gallon of gas. We used up a gallon doing burnouts all the way down the street. My mother sure didn't like him for that. That car etched a permanent memory on me!
Hello. My cousin owned one. I remember the car would vibrate at idle due to the camshaft high lift. About 1971 . I had a blind date that night . He set it up. Worked 💪
50 cents a gallon, that must have been during the fuel crisis because that would have been ridiculously high for '72.
@@generalkayoss7347 Ok, a gallon of gas and a candy bar. I stand 'corrected'.
@@ws678ta What kind of candy bar?
@@generalkayoss7347 She was same age as me, 15.
Love hearing him
row thru them gears!
The sound of that
engine, Is music to
my ears!
Its a screemer
I like your poem
Love the 302. This dude is driving it like he stole it too. Just Awesome!!! 8000 rpm sounds like heaven above.
Hahahahah it sounds like a screemer
You might need your internal tachometer looked at. That sounds more like 6500 rpm, and he had to punish the clutch to keep it from bogging in 2nd gear. 290 hp and a 3.73 gear ratio isn't the best drag race combination.
@@r.d.riddle2068 Just a heads up, the z-28 was not intended to be a 1/4 miler, it was bred to be a road course screamer regularly hitting 8,000 rpms......that my friend is why the 69 302 is a legend!
Any 68-71 340 would mop the floor with it.
8,000? No
Hands down one of the best small blocks!
It was a high rpm engine designed for road racing, so it was pretty gutless off the line (due to not producing much low rpm torque) unless you ran 4.11 or numerically higher gears, and although the engine made more than the advertised 290 horsepower, a G.M. engineer who helped design the engine, has been quoted as having said that the true output was about 330 h.p., so I wouldn't think of it as one of the best small blocks, unless you are someone who just loves a high revving engine.
I prefer the 327, but I still agree with you.
Sounds absolutely awesome. I miss the 70's. The streets were crawling with muscle cars like this. The high school parking lot had an inventory of cars that would be worth millions now. Even my $1000 57 Chevy 2 dr. Hardtop would be worth $20,000 now. It's so sad the direction America went. Oh well, it's back to playing with Hot Wheels.,
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Yeah nonWhite "america" is cringe as it gets. Born in 92 so I barely remember what it was like before the invasion.
Cars have way more power now. Mustang, Camaro, charger all have way more power these days.
@@corymacdonald383 yeah but the new cars have no soul and are pretty damn ugly they're just machines. The older vehicles just have something about them that feels more connected. More hands were on the older cars and each worker on the assembly line put something of themselves into it, the newer stuff is all made by soulless automation
No shit, I was10 in 1970, my brother was a huge gear head, had the fastest and most bad ass car’s, vetted were his fav, I would lay in bed , we lived in a small town and our house was just down the street from the main road, laying in bed I would listen to the barking and squealing tires and try to pick who’s car I was hearing, great times
Possibly the best sounding small block ever!!
Dodge R5P7
Mine had a 456 gear,a rock crusher and I believe 230 first gear..It was thrilling top to bottom
For a stock engine, it sounded great.
289 HiPo Ford.
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That sound gives me an eargasm !
Sweet machine and in her element, nice to see it doing what it does and not sitting in a collection just getting polished. Very nice. 👍👍🏁🏁
Her element is road racing not drag racing.
Had a 68 Z thst wss a beast. I was in the Marines and l drove it cross country 3 times. Wonderful road car. Only had to sdjust the valves on l got there. On off paydays she got us beer and gas money. Dark green white stripes. I'm 72 now and still dream about her. OORAH
One of chevys most underrated engines! With a few changes to this it was the giant killer.
It was always the giant killer...it was a race machine too
i have a motor, 302
You got that right the Chevy 302 in the Camaro is underestimated just like a sleeper
@@netrioter bone stock 11.5/1 or so, yeh they were high strung for sure
Sorry but you don’t get from a 302 to a 357 but boring it 40 thousand
geezus, that engine revved up like a chainsaw !
I bought one the last of some 30 fitted blocks old stock 302 she sure was sweet I ran her in a 68 Camaro I had & then later in a 70 Vette. Still remember most all the specs, Valve lash was 30, was a solid lift cam. Bore was standard 4 inch stroke was 3 inch with pinky rods. The pistons were 11 to 1 ratio. I believe it was the large journal solid steel crank she did run good at them high RPM's after all she was made to do her thing in the pony car races against the Mustang 302 & that she did. The Chevy 302 will always be my favorite.
I live in Loudon NH and watched the 69-71 Trans Am series here. Donahue in 69 with the 302 Camaro and my favorite Parnelli Jones in 70 with Fords’ 302. Great racing! Donahue went to AMC and the Javelin. George and Parnelli 15 and 16 were great to watch with the school bus orange Mustangs. These cars were about 600hp but probably 500 lbs lighter than the street versions. That series was great. All Detroit companies had an entry.
I’m pretty sure the only way to make a 302 was with a small journal 327 and a 283 crank unless there’s a special crankshaft I don’t know about.
@@VinnyMartello IIRC the 67 blocks were small journal, 68 and up were large journal.
@@VinnyMartello In 67...large journal after that. You could do one with a regular 350 4 bolt block today
Had one.....sounded exactly like that! Brings back good memories
What happened to it?
@@HiTechOilCo like a dummy I traded it the next year on a 1970 Chevelle
If it is stock exhaust is is a cross chambered setup. I LOVE the high winding DZ302 spinning near 8000 rpm.
Lisa Lakowski more like 9000
Definitely not a stock exhaust and the engine is not stock either.
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I think it probably is stock. They were one quick running under rated automobile.
@@evorider3689 No way José. I'd venture to say a solid roller cam, (but could be wrong)... Compression is in the ballpark of stock. Definitely better heads. Stock is an honest 350 or so horse, I'd give this one... Oh around 470-ish flywheel IF it is a 302.
HOWEVER.. Listen close. 👆
Ya know it could be an LS swap spinning an M-22 and 4.88's. Hmm??? 🤔
@@CSXT8250 It not an LS heard built restored plenty of those 302 cars. Had a big cam stock sure could be stock
Definitely has lower than stock geras though
I love the sound of a high revving engine, as I built a few back in the day!, Heck I even revved up a 68 Olds 455 that one of my Nova's had in it when I bought it, till I heard that ever loud knocking , but it was worth it! Small blocks forever for me!
music to my ears. that is one Sweet sounded small-block
The 302 has always been my favorite engine. What a high winder. What music she makes!
That little beast can really sing! Love the sound of 8,000 rpm shifts😄😃
Had one. It was like a 2-stroke dirt bike. If you were in it & in high RPMs, it held its own. But anything less than full-out, in the R’s, it was a dog.
Love the Z/28. One badass car. The sound is fantastic.
No way that motor is all stock... great engine.. id rather have the aluminum 427 rat motor
And that’s why I want to put a 302 in my 914 Porsche. That is the best sounding small block ever.
Dirt track racer's were building this engine before the factory did. They took the 327 and put the 283 crank and rods in it and called it a 301. Later on after the release of the 400 they started putting together 377's and 383's by using a combination of the 350 and 400 parts. I don't know what you would end up with if you put a 327 (if even possible) crank and rods in a 400 block. Chevy's are awesome plus easy and cheaper to build, to think it all started with a 265.
What a Beautiful sound. There's nothing like that high rpm, muscle bound, beauty queen kicking ass
High school 1980 , I hear for the first time off in the distance...the hi-rev. Scream of the Chevy 302 in a maroon Z28 I was in awe ,I never had even heard of one... thought those magic numbers belonged to Ford! The car the motor the gearing all produced a memory, no a legend in my mind ! Oh to the days of thunder ,an cruising division st. hey SARG
CHEVYS MOST BADASS ENGINE OF ALL TIME.
One of several. LT-1, L-88, ZR-1, LS-6 but I get your point. And now the LS series is added to the list.
zr-1 isnt an engine
Dave Harrison, Damn right!! 🤘😎
Zl1 all aluminum 427 (1969 original) would be in that list :)
Dave Harrison my little 355 m20 4spd sounds like THAT
One of the most if not the most underated Engines ever Built ( except 4 the Mopar 340). my Bud showed up one day at work Summer of 69 with a 69 green Zapper. I saw him Race Vettes with that little Mouse and he even nipped a few of them too. First time I ever heard a 302 Z turn on , a chill ran up my Spine. My first ride? Awesome!. Thank u Mr. Duntov.
The 290 hp. rating on this Motor (DZ 302) was a Joke. Try 360 to 375 more like and in that light little A frame? Forget about it!!
Oneshot.
He's definitely not scared to drive it!
That thing sounds awesome, I love it, that would never get old👍😀
Smart racer. He knows the power band.
Dam this Z/28 sounds badass ,just the sound of that 302 winding out like that just makes me wish I had one more and more
More like 7000 tops,unless that motor is set up with a billet crank,and alloy rods you ain't taking a steel rodded mill up to 8500 for a very long time.
That want even close to 9000
Unless you missed a gear...lol
@@Iandiorio1 steel rod dirt track motors live at 8500 all the time. I’d be more worried about piss poor valve train stability with those stud rockers and I’m sure no girdle.
@@78freewheeler I've spun small block fords to 8500 with steel rods and higher but they have killer l19 bolts or carr bolts and the rotators are stupid zero light.
That motor didn't sound like 8000 to me though.It sounded healthy but not 8000 plus rpm healthy.
I've ran parabolic carrillo Nascar 6.200 rods in small block fords with power adders and its not advised with the use of a turbo or blower but we did it a few years ago,ran it on the waste gate making a measly 8lbs and she ran 9 flat at 159.The tune will fat and timing managed conservatively.
Cool video either way.
@@Iandiorio1 nah it definitely wasn’t 8k.
Idk why this showed up 11 years later but I’m glad it did. What a sound
The little beast just RIPS!!!
Wasn’t even born yet in ‘69, but I want to go back.
its a porno for my ears.
Ear candy ?
1969 Camaro RS Z28 equipped with the 302 CID recorded a 0-60 time of 7.4 seconds. Meanwhile, its quarter-mile time 14.8 seconds.
@@evorider3689 a 14 sec 1/4 mile wasnt bad.. i mean some small cars with 390's ran 14's too!
@@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor I realize that, but stock they were mid to high 14 second cars, and the faster muscle cars of that time were literally a full second faster in the quarter. Some of them even a little more than a full second faster. Don't get me wrong. 14 seconds was perfectly respectable back then, but bone stock, these cars were far from being the giant killers that so many people today think they were.
Makes me miss my 1970 1/2 split bumper LT-1 350 it loved to pull all the way to 6,500 rpm it was a factory solid flat tappet cam and had a factory style ratchet shifter
Thought you couldnt get an auto LT1 til 71? Had a 70 straight bumper, all around best driving muscle car Ive owned. WAs my daily in the 80s
@@gordocarbo wasn't the original engine the engine had been replaced three times painted 4. I think the only factory thing was the transmission and shifter
When I was in high school back in the early 90s my buddy's dad had a 69 Camaro with a DZ302. He took me for a ride in it. What a badass car.
Beautiful music, to my ears!
1/4 mile at Keller Airport. 1968 396/375 Chevelle up against 1969 z28 with the GM cam kit. No slicks. The Z pulled two cars by 2-3 shift...the big block couldn't pull it back before the 1/4.
Absolute music to the ears
Those DZ 302s were absolute SCREAMERS for such a small displacement V8. Think about how gutless the 305s were. 140 HP? Out of a V8? My 1.6L Civic made that much power. 5.7s in some of the late 70s, early 80s Camaros and Corvettes making 180 HP? My 3.0L V6 Accord made 200 stock. Sickening. The DZ 302 was an absolute marvel of it's time. Producing 290 HP/290 lb ft of torque (conservatively) out of 302 cubic inches was a freak of nature and it could rev to 7,000 RPM! To this day I'd still give anything that I own for a 69 Z28 Camaro with a DZ 302 and a 4 speed in metallic blue with white stripes. BTW, I DO own a 1997 EJ8 Honda Civic coupe with a fully built LSVTEC (1.85L DOHC VTEC 4 cylinder) with a Garrett GT3582R turbo that makes 709 whp. With slicks it ran a best of 9.86 @ 156 mph and that was with me pedaling it.
This is the best video I've seen on this car . . that was one badass Camaro
I just ran across this again , and all I can say is HOLY CRAP!!!!! That is the meanest sounding small block I've ever heard!!!!!Ooh Wee!!! Yes please 😁👍👍👍
That is one pissed off Z!
It is
good friend of mine, had one. Wish he were alive to see this video:( RIP Mark Francis!!
Looks like he was running ET Streets. Wonderful Chev302
That's definitely what a high winding Z28 engine sounds like thing of beauty Great Road Course engine for the day did I mention 4 inch bore 3-inch stroke a destroked 327 plus with a cam and heads and intake what a Powerhouse
Headers W/ Strait Pipes & 4.11 or 4:31 Will Do That on a DZ 302.Notice How Quick the Revs. Get Up?? Bad Ass DZ 302.
yep...given the gearing you mentioned the 302 will be in it`s rpm range all day with a driver who lets her go! quite impressive for someone who really loves to hear an engine do what it does...scream
He's hitting 4th gear on some of those passes. That track definitely isn't a quarter mile... I'd bet he has 4:88, or even possibly 5:13 gears in that beast.
Those solid lifter high revving 302s were bad ass
Sweet ass American muscle!!! Love it!!!
Neighbor had a 69 z28 ralley sport he bought new after Vietnam. Other neighbor had a 69 roadrunner. On dennison street sat a super bird and my dad had a 69 pacecar. Lady on paper route had a 70 rt 440 in the garage. Bob Hagen had 2 500kr shelby's. Just another day in the 70s.
Damn good runs for what looks like street tires. Great driving.
Yeah, he was doing quite a dance through first trying to get what traction he could. Wasn't his first rodeo.
That sucker pushing some serious RPM's. Sounds amazing!
Such a high revving V8. Kinda like the 377 configuration setup
Nah better..good for 9000 all day
@@netrioter a 377 destroker would run circles around a 302 🤣🤣🤣🤣. 9k plus aswell
Power can impress, looks can draw allure, but nothing stirs me like the sound of a proper engine. Heck, I bought an R1 just because of the raucous bellow it makes. This is a proper engine!
Short stroke does help, but the real key for high rpms is the cam! Those 30-30 single pattern cams are no joke (advertised dur. 314 lift .485) lived at high rpms.
30 -30 duntov
Have the utmost respect for the dz, would bet everything I have that motor is far from stock, spent alot of time in one a friend owned and it ran hard.....but not like that one....sounds and runs amazing!!!
Damn that thing sounds good.....
Had one in 1970, 302, mechanical lifters, blew away 340 six packs.
Ever wonder what a 5.13 rear end gear sounds like with a 2.20 low gear close ratio trans. in a 8000 RPM small block 302 Z/28 ? WELL NOW YOU KNOW !! THIS IS THE GIANT KILLER !!
My brothers 69 had 5.13's his could pull the front tires all day. His 302dz wasn't stock obviously. Was his 16th birthday present. Lucky shit
It's impressive. sounds like it got 5.13 or 5.58 gears. The 3.73 or 4.10s they came with were not enough for drag racing the 302.
Gotta love the mighty mouse !!!
I was always a BB guy but had mad respect for DZ's.
Thanks for the video.
"Was"?
@@HiTechOilCo Growing up. I guess I still am considering I still have two.
How the hell does that sound like rice? It sounds like a screaming small block to me!
A teenager in Nampa Idaho in mid 1968 took delivery from Edmark Chevrolet of Nampa the car was delivered to Edmark as we're all most Z-28 with the engine mostly dis assembled in the trunk for insurance purposes the cars had 12.5 to 1 solid lifter forged.Backed by the venerable Muncie M-22 close ratio laid down by 12 bolt 4:11 in most cases.redline was the problem it was high and he blew the engine within a very few days ordered another bullet .most of them probably had a similar fate .so morale of story be glad you have rev limited roller stuff.on sticky steel belted not bias ply f-70 ply glass gt 7"
The mufflers sound like Dynomax super turbos. I had a set on my Camaro, and it sounded just like that! :)
First car I drove. What a thriil! Love that high reving 302.
Luck you ! Uncle bought one new, I was a kid begging him to hang on to it til I was 16...was his daily.
Why guys are scared to drive them now is like being mentally ill. Why NOT drive every chance you get?
Ok who else ran it back like 20 times just because it was SOOOOO SWEET ??!
If anyone has a Chevy 302 "driver" still, it's because they didn't blow it up and simply enjoy the wonderful music it makes. Drive it w reasonable care and you'll reap it's rewards. Classic, unparalleled motor.
wow listen to the baby scream! chevrolet had a great idea when they put the 283 crank in the 327 block to make a 302 to run in the trans am series!
That is correct, half ass attempt to get into TransAm. They built a monster with off the shelf parts. The 302 wasn’t engineered ground up. They got lucky, then made it work.
Yup, had one many years ago. Those things could rev like nothing else. Just Badass....
sounds sweet!
that was music to my ears also the ID code on that engine will be ML for 1967 & 68 DZ for 69 and late production into Feb 20 1970 is CNA
that my friends is sweet music to the ears👍
Back in 70, installed a 68 302 Z28 motor in a 64 Chevelle with a Pontiac 4 speed and 66 GTO 3.90 posi rear. Car was a screamer, great street car for 10 years ! Motor pulled like a freight train to 7800. Fun shifting through the gears ! Lets just say it surprised a lot of people. 295hp ? I don't think so, more like 400+. Wish I still had the car and the motor !
Pontiac never made it's own 4 speed transmission. They used Borg Warner T-10 and Muncie M20, M21, and M22 four-speed transmissions.
Oh man, that sounds *ANGRY.* I love it.
All noise and no go. "69 Boss 302 Mustangs were far faster/quicker.
@@sergeantmasson3669 you wished a Ford was better than a Chevrolet 🤣🤣🤷. That’s why most Chevys power fords!!
@@brandonbell3089 Everybody has a right to be stupid sometimes but you're abusing the privilege.
@@sergeantmasson3669 🤣🤣🤣. Let’s me real here now. Everyone knows Chevrolet makes the world go round!!!
@@brandonbell3089 ROFLMAO ! Delusional much, Chevturd? GM/Chevy is the king of recalls. If Chevy is so great, why is the Camaro being discontinued, AGAIN? Why is Ford F-series #1 truck for 44+ years? Why did GM need a bailout and then Obama sold-off that bailout at an $11.2 billion loss? Ford didn't need/want a bailout. What Chevy year/model do you own? Sorry but Hot-Wheels cars don't count.
That sound is beautiful
You know its real easy to think this is an LS engine but its not I have been a mechanic for over 35yrs and have built enough of these little monsters to know what a little tweaking here and there will make them do and that's no LS tho I must say it sounds strikingly similar.
It revs a lot higher than an ls
It’s a dz 302 small block, more than likely a 327 that’s why it’s so stupidly fast
It sounds nothing like an LS. There is really no way to make an LS\LT sound like SBC because of the firing order changes. I guess you could with custom internals but nothing of the self.
The 302's were nothing more than Corvette L76 327's with a 283 crank. That is what the 67 version of the engine was, small journals and 2 bolt mains. The 67's weren't DZ either, I think they were MO's or something like that. By 68' they would use the 350 4 bolt main casting with a large journal version of the 3" crank. The casting number for DZ is unique, but it's otherwise identical to a 350 block. In term of hp they could matched the HP of the L76 taking about 600 more rpm to do it but with noticeably less torque.
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@Ceelow
I agree, that thing is tuned so well it does sound somewhat like an LS until it revs passed 8000 rpm. I think its because the cam, heads, carb, exhaust, with the displacement are working together perfectly at that high rpm. You probably noticed that its all the car can handle to hook up on launch. Any more torque and it would just spin all the way to half track. The 302 and 327 were perfect engines for the smaller light weight cars.
Years ago I was blessed with watching a 427 4 speed 69 in Charleston ill . and he hot lapped that thing till it burnt a spark plug. Love it.
That SBC sounds strong💪👍👌❤
That engine must have a decent cam and an infallible valve train! You can tell by the way it sings! I heard approximately 7,000 RPMs!
The comment section is full of myths.
Never saw a Chevy 302 run. Definitely screams. Impressive.
Say what you will, this motor screamed with the Dontov 30 30 cam
The Duntov was the #097 cam, the 1969DZ came with the #140 cam. Duntov cam was old school by 1965. . www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Camaro-Z28-302-140-off-road-cam-shaft-crossram-GM-3947140-NOS/254046212891?epid=4012290244&hash=item3b2655931b:g:xD4AAOSwxDJcKSlu
I try to build a 302 back in the day for my 57 Chevy 2dht, 327 with 283 crank,
Just did happen, so I got a 70 lt1 350
Things don't work out sometimes, know it sits in my
57 cameo pick up 44 years later
Nice Tune Up!!
All time fav sbc vid! That car is getting down!!
Nothing like hearing it shriek over 7k, nice job. Shame so many that own one watch this but wont even take theirs out of the garage.
OH YEAH 🤘🤘🤘🤘 CHEVY ALL DAY EVERY DAY.. 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
Screaming motors for sure! Sounds like heavenly music to my ears!!
chief like this
The early Home engine builders/Hotrodders, came up with this engine combo.. They opened a 283 bore to 4inches, making it almost 302 ci.. The home boys called it a 301.. Once Chevy decided to build it, they called it a 302.. I had the home built version, in my 55 Chevy.. it had 11.5-1 pop'up pistons, a polished 283 Crank, 30/30 Solid Lifter cam, 327 hi performance Rods, and Fuel injection heads.. it was powerful.. Haad a close Ratio 4-speed, and later: a 57 pontiac rear with posi,nand 538 gears.. It was BAD TONTHE BONE..
It's far from stock.
Sounds stock to me, ever own one,apparently not,
@@ljbrizo Yes, and built many SBC's. You, don't know what you're talking about. As I said, it's not stock.
Not a stock cam for sure!
They built many of these for T/A racing. The 1st 500 came with headers in trunk for SCCA Homulgation rules. Add the optional cam and they would run like this off the shoeroom floor; Pink Rods 202 Double Hump "Fuelie" Heads! We just built a short stroke Ford w/big 660 Lift Lunati Mech Roller Cam. Light weight car helps make up for Ford iron heads not flow as good as Chev. ua-cam.com/video/BvutunbpmhA/v-deo.html
@@SLJ2137694 How would you know.
Stock was 254@050 thats a big friggin cam.
Yeah , I remember seeing a handful of them in my rear view mirror.
My grandfather has 1923 t-bucket with 302 sbc with 327 heads. 1900lbs with him. It's rowdy
Those Z-28s were really special. But the truth is a 301 was runing on drag strips long before they were i production cars.the older 283 blocks were thick and could be bored .125 in over with no problem. The 327 375 solid lifter & cam could be bought in 1966 for less than 100 bucks . It was a Duntalf cam from Chevrolet. A little porting and 5 angle valve job on power-pack heads made a fast cheap hot motor for a 55 chevrolet, back then. Fuelie type heads, roller rockers, and cheap Hedman headers, along with an afb carb off a 383 chrystler on a 327 300 hp cast iron intake was even better. A 302 is really a 301 but still a Z-28 is a force to be recognized. Those good old days were great.
In the 70’s I had a VW bug. (Sigh 😌 ) and everything I owned fit in it.
Bought one new in sixty-nine, was disappointed in power with street gears ( 3.73 ) my friend had a new '69 Corvette with the 435 h.p. big block. But he had a 6-71 roots blower and manifold for a small block, one day talking he asked me if I would consider trading engines straight across because he wanted to have a blower sticking through the hood of his Vette. I jumped at the chance. We swapped and it turned my Z-28 into a monster, at least for the time period.
Some of the small blocks of that era were the best. The 302, the 289, the 318. All perfect,easy to work on and good performance. The big plus was you didn’t have to break the bank for parts. Big blocks were powerful, but getting up in the 400c.I. range was not everyone could afford.
Don't forget the 340
@@JoJo-209- or the LT1 350. it basically just a bigger 302. same cam, intake, exhaust, and heads. same cylinder block and rods, just a longer stroke crank and different piston to accommodate the longer stroke.
@@shadvan9494 yes. Same difference with the 327 vs the 350... 327 was a screamer, great sbc. That's what I have in my 73 chevy vega. And I'm 25 yrs old lol I just like some old school shit too
@@JoJo-209- Would be fun to take a 350 bolt and build a 302 or 327 from hell. With the stroke, they would never blow.
my favorite motor...would love to build one for my 34 chevy but the stupid pistons are priced way high...but maybe still might put one together.......
What a sweet sound. An amazing and rare small block power plant. Dude driving that beauty is brutally bad shifting though.
Beautiful sounding Camaro. 302 Chevy wasn’t around long at all. 1-2 years I think. The Boss 302 with the 4” bore, 3” stroke, and Cleveland cylinder head was a 8500+ high RPM monster.
302 chevy was in production in 1967, 68 and 69. made over 350 horsepower with headers stock.
STock not a chance
@@gordocarbo I didn’t mean a complete factory stock engine. Up the compression, roller camshaft, lighter ring package with forged pistons. Parker Funnel Web single plane intake.
not stock it wasnt!