That Time I Made a Doctor Who Monster - 2021 Retrospective
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To be fair I don't think anyone expected a 9 year old to be the one who made the Absorbalof
mate because of the abzorbaloff everytime i eat something i cant help but say it tastes like chicken
I love love and monsters
Bridge next to Asda should be a standard unit of measure
YES
Amen
Any creation that brings about the line "she tastes like chicken" in a Doctor Who episode is alright in my book!
You?!
I'm literally crying that you made this monster. That's hilarious
Man I used to watch u back in the day on my other account, u still stuck between two pipes? 😂😂
It’s so weird to me that the dude who IS Channel Pup is the same kid who made the Abzorbaloff
Same 😂😂😂😂
I can’t believe this!!! Character development is true for not just RTD but this man too! Omg
I like the idea that next to this episodes writer's local Asda, there's a bridge that's the same size as a regular size person, so that's what they used as the inspiration
Can I just say man. I wholeheartedly think the Abzorbaloff is a hilariously good monster. His dialogue actually works with comedic timing and Love and Monsters just works on so many levels as a great meta/comedy episode of Doctor Who and I want to thank you for making a cult classic Alien!
Thanks! I think you'll enjoy the new short up tomorrow on the Doctor Who Lockdown Channel at 7:45PM GMT. :)
It's a weird feeling knowing that I'm now old enough that the kid who made the absorbaloff is now one of the Doctor Who UA-camrs I watch. It's a real sign I'm growing up.
Hey man, I liked the episode. And I thought the abzorbaloff was a interesting and wicked monster
I never realised you were that kid! My worldview has been absolutely shattered
It was YOU!
No word of a lie, no Doctor who villain ever scared me more than yours did as a kid.
As funny as I find that fact now, I legitimately couldn't sleep without the covers over my head until I was about 12 out of fear of the Absorbaloff coming through my door and absorbing me. There was a lot of body horror in that era of Dr Who, and yours somehow managed to scare me the most. Legitimately couldn't watch the episode for years after because of it. So well done I guess!
Same, it wasn't the scariest to me, but still I was pretty spooked
@@linusovery-smith4246 Scares me more than the cybermen, Ood and even the empty child. Again, hilarious to me now that it did that but think the thought of being a face on a body just shook me for some reason haha
I always thought that Peter Kay's portrayal was the tale of two performances. Like when he's in his human form, He was, to my memory, genuinely creepy in a soft-spoken, obsessive kind of way. When he's the Abzorbaloff, he hams it up like all classic Dr Who monsters. I personally feel it was the disconnect between the two that turned off a lot of people.
I like this episode, it shows the impact the doctor has on the people that meet them. It's kind of like a prototype for a spin off
Love and Monsters walked so Sarah Jane Adventures and Torchwood could run.
"You've dabbled with aliens, now meet the genuine article!"
~ Abzorbaloff, an utter King.
This is, no joke, one of my absolute favourite episodes.
How are you everywhere
@@TheKandyman I’m not. I don’t even comment that often.
@@bongo50_ I swear nearly every doctor who video I've watched (that I looked in the comments of) in the past few days, you've been there
@@TheKandyman that’s strange. The only places I can remember commenting on recently that are Doctor Who related are this video and the dalek one.
@@bongo50_ huh weird
No way! I never knew it was you who created that character, that's so cool!
Wait... this was you? Kudos, man. You were actually brave enough to send in an entry and lucky enough to design a monster that appeared in an episode.
I never knew you actually had a UA-cam channel. I only just discovered you and your channel through the livestreams. You've got yourself a new subscriber.
how did you find it? Through livestreams of what?
Finally, something for doctor who fans to do on valentines day
The fact that you were the one who made the monster and do UA-cam is actually an awesome thing. I think you mentioned it before but I can’t remember. I heard it was a contest but I didn’t remember anything about it. This is a good video. It’s even funny to know the design had Asda on the back.
Also I like your character animator puppet. (I’m assuming it’s character animator from what the rigging looks like).
At least Love and Monsters isn’t as bad as Fear Her
Or The Idiot's Lantern
@@mr.person4050 Or any of season 11/12
@@cyansolstice397 every Chris chibnall ep and a special guest star the happiness patrol
@@cyansolstice397 Bud...cease with the circlejerk. There is nothing in ether of those seasons as bad as Love and Monsters.
@@Jack91790 there's plenty that are way worse. At least this episode made some halfway decent characters
Yes
Oh god yes
I can die happy now
Also Love & Monsters wasn't that bad tbh
The tone was all over the place but other than that I found it fine, we got to see more of Jackie and Elton was really likeable.
Oh yeah, I remembered watching the Blue Peter episodes about the 'create a monster' competition. Was mostly bummed out that I was too old to enter it at the time. Still awesome to know you created that monster.
I can't believe people hated the Abzorbaloff. He was one of the funniest Doctor Who villains of the older seasons.
ITS YOU WHO MADE THAT?! I also entered the competition... can’t remember what I made though. That’s funny, I always wondered “what is that kid doing now...” 🤔.
Sometimes I forget that you created this character, you've come a long way man. Well done.
i personally think that Love and Monsters is a good idea, made a few years too early, but it felt as though they wrote the episode, then decided they had to force the Absorbaloff in to that episode specifically.
Pup, you're monster is canon. That's fucking crazy. Holy moley.
Channel Pup: I created the Abzorbaloff
Me: I'm sorry?
Channel Pip: I said I created the Abzorbaloff
Me: I heard you, I'm just sorry.
I am honestly mind blown your the person who created him. Super glad I stumbled across this quality channel.
Council of Geeks brought me here! Also, your concept of the Absorbalof was fine and would have worked with a proper budget and decent writing! The accusation that you were "disappointed" may well have been projection on part of the production team...And giving "the bridge next to ASDA" as a size reference is totally adorable!
The fact that the master was in this episode is amazing.
I thought the episode was funny, inspiring, and heartwarming one of my fav eps , great channel love the animation work/designs 🤓👍👏👏👏
Holy crap you made him? Why am I only hearing about this now after years of being subscribed.
Wait do people not know about that bridge next to Asda? I thought everyone knew about that bridge next to Asda...
I usually like it when Doctor Who can hop between genres and settings so effortlessly, and sometimes goes experimental. The first modern Doctor lite story told from strangers' perspectives, and the characters were nice enough. Only started watching the show in 2017, but I enjoyed that at the time!
I sometimes wondered what the creator of the Abzorbaloff thought of it after hearing about the competition, cool to hear this!
I have to say, I _loved_ the concept of the absorbalov. I creature that absorbs its victims, keeping them conscious as part of its being, forever trapped within it, even being denied the sweet release of death, is something I find terrifying.
One could probably find similar creatures (I for one have vague memories of a turtle creature from an anime that kept souls forever in torment as faces growing out of its shell) but being as you were nine at the time, I wouldn't have supposed you'd even heard of them, let alone plagiarised them.
I loved this story. I like they way that the Doctor was tangential to the story and it was about the 'normal' people around him.
Agree with it all. I recall entering myself, many years ago. Had a monster that could only live in hot climates, a reverse Cryon. But its interesting what you say. We re-evaluate. Maybe in a few years people will re-evaluate this period and think it's better then they thought first time round. The ep is disliked but on these watchthroughs coming back to eps they've been more enjoyable. After 15 years maybe Love and Monsters will be pretty good.
And yes, we've had trouble with less pleasant fans, we know the sort, who turn fandom into a joyless activity or even use fandom as an excuse to be nasty. I won't give names but I think we know a few...
The ep might well have problems but it must have been wonderful to see your creation there. The thought that somehow you contributed. When the fanfics I write go up on the Lockdown website it so delights me, feeling I've done something.
And I'm glad you enjoyed yourself. To meet the people from your fave show must have been a dream come true for a child. And it will be great you can contribute to this Tweetalong.
I've sent in a monster and a fanfic (monster isn't in fanfic). If nothing else it was fun to do.
Look forward to getting involved in this tomorrow!
I remember watching dr who confidential and finding out who designed the Abzorbaloff. So happy to see u with your own UA-cam channel.
If it's worth anything, I really like Love & Monsters. A lot of it could be nostalgia, since I watched it over and over on the DVD set, but the idea of LINDA I always found so adorable, and to see LINDA slowly fall apart into this dark and depressing search for the Doctor really stuck with me.
What was it like meeting Peter Kay
I remember watching Doctor Who Confidential when this episode was shown. I met Neil Gorton at LFCC in 2007, got his Autograph, and was seriously starstruck as I've been watching his stuff since he did the monster of the week on Space Precinct in the mid-nineties. I loved your drawing of the Abzorbalof. And I have wondered in the past what Blue Peter winners were up to in the Future. Glad to see you are well and doing something you enjoy. I hope you still have your Blue Peter badge, and you keep it in a safe place. All the best to you mate.
I remember the episode a little, and I must say, I honestly didn't mind it all that much.
“Tastes like chicken”
How did a literal kid make a better monster than most of the professionals who worked on season 2 of doctor who.
OH NO A POLLEN THAT MAKES DRAWINGS COME TO LIFE LOOK OUUUUUT
Better than the “Pting”
Pollen that makes the doctor and his couple friends high af
i love this episode, and i didn't know that you made the Abzorbaloff
I remember watching love and monsters as a kid, about 5 at the time. And obviously rewatching it in later tears. But this episode always stuck with me. Genuinely liked the absorbaloff as a monster, much more interesting than just killing people, and the look through a random person’s eyes was a real nice touch, a feature that also helped made one of doctor who’s famous monsters stand out. The first episode of the weeping angels.
I actually liked the episode. Even to this day.
Wow! You're the kid who created the love and monsters villain. So cool! I thought the monster you came up with was pretty good for what it's worth. How many people can say they created a Doctor Who monster? 🙂😁 The episode itself is a nice character piece about those who live in the world of Doctor Who. People who experience all the madness that happens and try to work out what's going on. It's a interesting concept.
Honestly I was 4 or 5 when I first saw love and monsters in 2006 and I was scared
To me abzorbaloff was utterly terrifying
Especially the whole part of the faces being conscious (and how unsettling the chase was after the absorption)
It's one of the 2 things from doctor who that had ever scared me (the other being the slitheen because well look at them they're fast and literally hollow people out)
But seriously it was really unsettling for a 4 year old and it's something that stuck with me for at least 10-11 years before I went and rewatched it for the first time (the slitheen had the Sarah Jane adventures so I got used to seeing them a lot in the franchise in comparison)
I can’t even tell you how much it scared me. I pissed myself once because some lady came to talk in my school and she looked a lot like Ursula and I thought she *was* Ursula and the abzorbaloff could come by. I used to get scared of random people thinking they were abzorbaloffs in disguise. It was the way he just needed to touch you to take you so what could you have done to save yourself? It made me paranoid for several years.
@@katie2275 the fact it needed contact was scary
Especially since it was implied that it works as a chain reaction to people who are touching
Dare I say the scariest monster in doctor who
NGL, watching Love and Monsters in isolation from the series, especially the Beast two parter before it, really helps its case. It's not perfect but it's a decent experiment that is a fun watch. Certainly better than Fear Her!
Reminds me of the fact that Jet Jaguar from Godzilla was made the same way.
It’s not my favorite episode. And Victor is a bit … power ranger villian… but I enjoy it. I find it emotionally connective. I think the friend group is fun and the consequences of connection to the doctor is a valid observation. Glad you had a great experience, I would have loved doing something like that!! What a great experience for a kid!
Wow small world got into your guys Sunset City channel couple months ago and had no idea you made this creature. found out through comments on this "Doctor Who: You upset my mum... No one upsets my mum." clipped by Normal L.
NO WAY?? that was you. oh my god. That is insane
Love and Monsters is underrated and it's cool you got to contribute. I think the episode would have gone down better if the monster was just a stranded Slitheen though
This is nuts l. I remember this competition and I saw the title I thought it was click bait. You are history my friend. Amazing
It's a good thing this episode didnt really suck! This episode is so feel good and different and a hell of a lot of fun. Doesn't deserve the "hate" it gets
I'm gonna watch this episode now. Been watching you for a while and had no idea about this.
The reason this episode is iffy isn't because of the monster, it's because of the overly cartoonish moments. The episode actually has a lot going for it in concept.
I will never forgive you for snubbing my Dalek, Slitheen, Cyberman, Reaper, Dalek Ship thing hybrid. Peter Kay would have blown it out of the water.
You can become his nemesis and have that as your villain origin story...
Absorbaloff still looks more realistic than the Richard Lazarus monster
Good point. Very point there.
Truth!
That might be cos the absorbaloff was actually there where as the lazarus monster was some of the worst cgi the show has come up with
Admittedly, I felt that the episode isn't truly bad, it has some comedic moments, and it was new territory for the series, an episode focusing more on those that have encountered the Doctor, and how their obsession with finding them again is what ultimately dooms them, a subtle foreshadowing with how the story will end with many of the Doctor's companions in the upcoming series, and giving a bit of time to Jackie, a character that is often overlooked. The Abzorbaloff does come across as a juvenile creation, but that's what it was intended to be, a monster designed by a child for a competition, and I feel any short comings of the episode were mostly because this was being filmed at the same time as the Impossible Planet and the Satan Pit, meaning a lot more time and resources were being given to another episode - in fact, the latter half of series 2, save for the two part stories, did feel a bit rushed, not feeling on equal footing as the first half of the series. Admittedly, I think the Abzorbaloff may have come across as more intimidating if, rather than just straight up consuming flesh and assimilating bio mass, it was a slow process, where in beguiling an individual, they feed off their emotions and psyche as well, a bit like Ruby White in "Goodbye, Sarah Jane Smith". Once the person becomes a shell of their former self as the Abzorbaloff consumes more and more of the victim, that's when they assimilate the flesh - when they can convince their ailing prey into becoming "whole" again,, once their will is spent and they cannot resist.
And I reckon many people watching the show and seeing a fan's creation being made into a character presumably inspired them to want to come up with concepts for the show, and invest themselves into the series, so there's also that.
It's really interesting to actually give your perspective to the whole situation.
That is so cool, you`re the one who won the blue peter contest and created the Abzorbaloff.
I remember that contest.
Now you`re a well known You Tuber.
Well thank you for a memorable monster that we got to see on TV long ago.
I feel like if the Absorbalof was designed better by the Doctor Who staff, as well as combined with better writing. I feel like this episode could've been an instant classic.
Where did my comment go? :(
There^
I got no idea. I saw you commented and wanted to see what it said.
Dear lord, it's Larry Bundy Jr!
No idea. But HELLLLOO YOU. (I bet nobody ever thinks to say that!)
I recall this monster was genuinely scary for me as a kid. I think thats a sign of a job well done.
I liked episode, it was weird funny, but it must have been cool to see something you did appearing in a show you like
Ye know the idea of the absorbaloph is actual quite good, especially for a nine year old.
Unfortunately it ended up like that, but hay, it means you’re design will forever be remembered
This is so weird. I was just wondering what happened to the kid who made Absorbalof... And you posted this days ago
I also sent in a monster for this competition. My monster was made of ropes and could latch on to you and burn you alive. It could also combust and reappear anywhere it liked.
I got a runner up prize (which was that 2005 aliens and monsters book) and not an OFFICIAL blue peter badge, but just a little flat circle one. Both of these items are now lost.
I do wish I could have got my design back though as it's probably one of the only designs I worked hard on and was also probably the only good art I've ever made.
I’ve always loved that episode, was so jealous my design didn’t get picked 😂 always hoped they’d release him as a figure back in the day
Even though I’m really not a fan of love of monsters, I really adore the idea of the abzorrbaloff and its putrid design. I think if the episode was handled with more care and took a more dark/emotional turn instead cringey, I think it would’ve been pretty good.
omfg wut a twist! it's been one of my fav episodes since i saw it! such a delight!
I don't get the hate for this episode. The minimal use of the Doctor makes him more mysterious and shows us how much mystique and power he evokes to regular people. I like the use of ELO's Mr. Blue Sky, the awesome bonus alien the Hoix, the way we get to know Elton as a character, and the Abzorbaloff is actually quite threatening and creepy in some scenes.
Fear Her is far, far worse than Love & Monsters. Peter Kay did a pretty good performance for what he did. The episode has issues with the screenplay structure and how it is all over the place. But I respect what it was going for especially from
the perspective of an man and a group of people that connect with what they experience. The section where the Doctor explains to Elton about what happened to his mother is genuinely devastating. Also it introduced me to ELO, so that’s something. Respects to you.
At least Love & Monster didn't have a little girl trying to her hardest to sound scary and doing an ear destroying bad job. L&M was also cute and funny. Fear Her is just... Bad. The council guy is funny, but that's the only positive.
someone posted a link here to a review of the episode. RTD as Doctor Who showrunner does seem to have a habit of making up quotes for the papers - the excuse Davies made for Eccleston quitting which affected his career seems to have had more serious consequences. Eccleston still doesn't like Davies and his team to this day.
Great to hear about your experience winning this competition as a kid and getting to see behind the scenes of your favourite show.
Honestly this was one of my favourite episodes and I still love it
I always loved this episode. It's a nice lovely little story. I don't see how you can hate it on it's own.
What's funny is that the fans who hate the absorbaloff most vehemently remind me a lot of Victor Kennedy
They probably took it as a personal attack.
Me and my sister loved the Abzorbaloff as kids. Maybe because it was a northern Alien :P
I saw a comment on a Jay Excis video. That’s cool you make videos. The monster may have been in a bad episode (or the worst lol) but the fact a version of your monster got in an episode is still a W.
Edit: I don’t think it’s that bad of an episode. I would like an anthology series or someway for fans to have contribute to the series.
here's an interesting historical tidbit the design a monster contest by Blue Peter was first started in 1967 and entries included the Steel Octopus, the Hypnotron and the Aquaman and these winning entries became props and these villains where mentioned in the novel the English Way of Death by Gareth Roberts published in the 90's
Just wanna say as a die hard who fan is... and really not just saying this because its you. I really like love & monsters, love more I a get older. Its an oddity which is beautiful. Really watching you on blue Peter and been so amazed that someone of our age could design a monster. Still cool!
Dude. I love the absoraloft. Legit a great new monster
I guess the bodyswap with Jessie didn't last long then. Seriously, you're not at fault for how the episode and the creature actually turned out. Also, how many people can actually say they created a Doctor Who monster? Ok, probably a lot of people, but it's still an awesome thing to achieve.
I quite like "Love and Monsters", for the most part. I just think the ending is a bit much. I thought Peter Kay did a fine job and it's sad to hear that he now slags it off, probably after having heard too many times that it's supposedly the "worst" Who episode. Had no idea it was you that created it - that's really awesome. Take care and stay safe!
Hey there Channel Pup. Despite not being a fan of Doctor Who, I wanted to say congrats. You're a pretty cool doggo and child you deserved this win. Really fascinating insight into your childhood experiences! Also you're always charmingly entertaining.
Wait? You're glad we're living in a "revisionist" time?
Great! Now seems like a good time to explain to you all the ways Sonic Unleashed's lore is entirely and objectively dependant on Shadow The Hedgehog to fit into the world building.
Let's begin with what Dark Gaia is. - The simple answer is that he is Earth's own Black Doom. A dark being from the core of a celestial object (Earth or the comet) that has a mental link with the life that evolved on their world. Additionally on a symbolic level both have, to put it bluntly, an edgie-ifying influence on their titular hedgehog. Even just comparing their designs motifs, with the wide pointy faces and association with eyes.
It's also important to understand that both games were investigations of if-and-how combat could be implemented into a Sonic game. Shooter or beat-em-up.
But regarding the point I made when you were on Suris's livestream discussing Sonic. The fundamental conceit of the temples... The other time we see ancient temples powered by Gem Stones is ofcourse Shadow the Hedgehog. Now it's something of a trend in Sonic that different worlds have their own equivalent to the Chaos Emeralds, The World Rings, The Sacred Sword, The Sol Emeralds, The Time-Stones. Heck, based on how the two worlds of Sonic seem to be divided, it's like the Master Emerald is the Earth Worlds equivalent and it's connection to the Chaos Emeralds is why those worlds are entangled. But then what are The Black Comets equivalent?
It would seem the only possibility is that they are the Temple Gems. This means that the last mainline game before 06, the first mainline 3D game to only have one character, and the first mainline game after 06, the second mainline 3D game to only have one character BOTH heavily feature the idea of ancient temples with special connections to gravity.
Black Doom even mentions, in idle dialogue during Glyphic Canyon, something about re-awakening their master. Could it be that Dark Gaia is actually the mother and master of Black Doom? They're both almost certainly primordial beings from the formation of our universe.
Perhaps the reason Black Doom left his world's equivalent to the Chaos Emeralds on Earth was to siphon off Dark Gaia's power for himself. This may be why he was able to attain his own equivalent to a Super Form in the final fight. Devil Doom is the result of Black Doom having the same idea as Eggman, of stealing Dark Gaia's power.
There was a bit of tru-line between SA1, SA2, Heroes and Shadow in terms of background lore. Given that Unleashed was intended to be a step away from 06 (which was a soft reboot lore-wise), and was originally called Sonic World Adventure it would make sense for it to pick back up the idea of a lore tru-line where it was left off.
It's unlikely the Black Arms built the Gaia Temples as their own temples may have originally been designed to do the exact opposite and to help hatch the planet.
However the Babylonian society were also ancient aliens, and may have reverse engineered a technology that could do the opposite. Meaning the Gaia Temples are actually the exact opposite of the Glyphic Ruins.
In short: Sonic Unleashed is Shadow The Hedgehog 2: Episode Sonic.
This discussion is always more than welcome.
@@ChannelPup After I (hopefully) get my (*cough* hopefully superior *cough*) custom missions working in Shadow The Hedgehog would you be up for re-recording Sonic's lines (with some adjustments) so we can hopefully mess with Suris's head extra-hard? (I'm imagining him posing the model for the camera as soon as he gets manual control, then running into you a moment later and being told a bunch of the missions are time-sensitive now so we hope he didn't waste time posing.)
AND a Snyder fan? You keep taking W’s
Gosh, I remember that blue peter competition. Quite a long time ago.
I think the Abzorbaloff is a perfect monster idea. Peter Kay works alright as Victor Kennedy but the weird switch to a Northern accent is odd and the tonal change ('tastes like chicken') sort of throws it off. But it's a comedy episode
I've been sub to you a while and just watched that episode last night
I loved love and monsters. Would you be up for more absorbalof appearances ? As in other actors playing more of the absorbalofs?
Looking back, I think the character writing is what made the episode a flop. Yeah, the monster was grotesque, but that's the point. Plus it's still cool to hear about your personal experience as the kid who designed the monster. In other words, you're cool and I'm glad you had a great time!
Pup I beg you please please make more doctor who videos, you have such a great understanding of the fandom and also created the absorbillof so again please make more doctor who videos
Love and Monsters Defence Squad
I've watched this episode back in 2015, I can't believe that a channel I started watching because of SPIDER-MAN is the same person who created a DW monster. WHAT.
Btw, I always liked love and monsters.
I remember seeing news footage about that contest on an old video review about Love and Monsters (I tried to find the footage, but I can't find the news report, and the review is most likely long gone), and I'm assuming you were interviewed for that news report.
Little did I know that that little kid who drew a grotesque monster wearing nothing but a loincloth would go on to talk about Spider-Man on UA-cam fifteen years later....