Sheldon Johnson Jr wasn't the first reformed criminal to guest on Joe's pod, all the others have stayed out of trouble. So why is such a conclusion being made based on an outlier? How about simply judging people and their circumstances on a case-by-case basis?
@@LegendaryTony.yeah.....and in this particular case it was dumb to assume the guy was reformed, and even dumber to double down after he went back for MURDER, get it? He went back for MURDER and Joe is still toeing the same line, that's why people are giving him flack. Because he isn't condemning this guy after he MURDERED somebody 😂😂
@@LegendaryTony. "all the others have stayed out of trouble" You just made this up with no evidence whatsoever. The largest source of violence in America comes from repeat offenders who are often released ahead of schedule or even never sentenced to prison in the first place. That's a fact you can look up. The Innocence Project is an attempt to destroy society.
@@seamusgreenmurphy Yeah the guy's a PΘS, and Joe has no backbone for not condemning him. The vast majority of peopIe are condemning him, incIuding bIαck peopIe and peopIe on the Ieft. Which makes Joe's stance even more weird. Maybe it's just an ego thing, and Joe doesn't want to admit that he fell for Sheldon's BS. Regardless, l wasn't defending Sheldon, it just seemed Iike yoυ were using him as an example to say no former inmates can be reformed and none have ever been wrongly or unfairly sentenced. Apologies if that wasn't the case.
@@LegendaryTony. I love you talking about outliers like they haven’t been personally selected to be on JRE. You think maybe perhaps THEY ARE THR OUTLIERS
he did not get 50 years for pistol whipping a guy! He got 50 years for the previous multiple violent convictions he had been given a chance for, which he also squandered!
I don't get how Rogan and Co. don't get that. It's not just a punishment for one bad deed. You're being locked up because you've shown you can't be trusted and rightly so.
@@mitchellvangrieken3900Cool, I think we’re on board here and I get what you’re saying. But you can’t charge someone with “not learnin’ the first time” and if you charge him for the same thing then that IS Double Jeopardy. 50 years is 50 years but attempted murder is attempted murder plus his high standing within the bloods is a worse look along with his record at the time. As long as he stayed committing BS felonies over time, he was always going to get something like 50 years for attempted murder. “Not learning the first time” is a generality applied to the act getting arrested but more importantly convicted of anything and not for getting convicted for the same thing twice
How they downplayed him getting 25 years for 2 stitches. They acted like it was for some bar fight. Nope, armed robbery and they pistol whipped the guy. Yea, I can see 25 years. So, if I rob a bank and nobody gets stitches, I should be out on probation.
@@vinyllpreviews9462 he pistol whipped the guy and his gang robbed his girlfriend. Why would the judge want him out on the streets. Self accountability is lost
@abel6416 I was saying they downplayed on the podcast like it was just a bar fight or something. He got 25 years for 2 stitches. Joe, wow, 2 stitches. Then we find out the story was armed robbery and pistol whipping a guy. Seriously, plenty of crimes nobody gets physically hurt. But they acted like 2 stitches, no biggie, I was like, it's armed robbery and assalt.
@@vinyllpreviews9462 😂 u misunderstood me. I’m agreeing with you. The criminal was saying the judge was racist , because Black Judge told him that he was a menace to society. The judge was right.
Dismembering a corpse is RIDICULOUS. How could anyone defend that?! NY or NJ had no bail for 4 people who dismembered a body... No BAIL set. WTF. NY is COOKED!
Looking back??? I watched about an hour of the podcast with that dude and was shocked he was on JRE. Dude refused to take any responsibility for his crimes and gave zero indication he was a reformed. Dude Gave me the creeps with that fake intellectual BS he was trying to pull off
He’s primarily only spent time around blacks in a controlled environment…(gyms, UFC, comedy clubs, podcasts) …he doesn’t really know what a black person is.
Right? I'm sick of him talking about the former Baltimore cop who found documents from the 70's about all the same crimes in the same neighborhoods. Maybe, just maybe, it's the demographic and culture there, and not the police policies
Interesting. I was watching a different video where one guy commented how ultra conservative and right wing Joe is on the tucker Carlson episode. But yeah it’s pretty obvious Joe doesn’t want to "say the wrong thing".
I do not understand why he couldn't just say "Yeah that was fucked up what he did I mean I really believed him during the podcast but that's crazy that he ended up being a psycho". Like why keep sticking up for this guy at all in any way
Because Rogan is an intellectual and moral fool on many, many topics. He comes from Hollywood man, that place ROTS your brain. Even if you relocate to Texas.
Joe Rogan's attitude is actually pretty screwed up if you really look at it, and it is the same attitude Josh Dubin expressed: in essence, its excusable to assault or harm certain people if they are considered to be part of criminal underworld. Violence enacted on those people is of less consequence and should basically just be ignored, is what I'm getting from the way Dubin and Rogan refer to the pistol-whipping and robbery. That's really not so different from the attitude that street crime is okay so long as it is contained to certain neighborhoods or groups.
Elite leftist thought in a nutshell. Called the bigotry of low expectations, just excuse completely abhorent behavior because..well, "you know, it's socio-economic" or whatever other BS excuse
Random people don't get on JRE. This pardon was courtesy of Alvin Bragg, an Obama-era cabinet official if I recall correctly, or attorney-general or something. The man who is back in prison is what would be called in their organization a "hitter", and a very favored one at that. Sure seems like an experienced guy, the way he was disposing of that body so patiently. Anyway, the FBI probably knows what's up with this mob or they wouldn't have been able to nab their murderer so easily. Joe Rogan and his friends are genuinely some of the worst people in the world.
its really bad with the races, blacks insist on viewing by races, the being slaves had nothing to do with their skin color, it was the way of the time period. If they weren't here they would be stuck in Africa somewhere. U.s is one of the first countries not to only free slaves but allow them into society. More white people died in the civil war for blacks rights than blacks have. blacks kill each other more than white kill them. Most blacks are the new racist, that's why most mixed identify as black because they view the white part as weak/bad. anyone can play the race game.
@glandhound he isn't defending them in court. He's going on Joe's show and lying about their cases. Like the woman who had "no history of abuse," despite having had like 8 kids (other than the one she killed) taken away from her.
Damn so Joe is telling the truth when he says he doesnt read comments anymore, he still thinks Sheldon only pistol whipped and robbed somebody for his money back lol. smh. Sheesh. That's honestly disappointing . The sense of community really wont ever be the same as the old JRE days. He used to talk about how funny the comments were and stuff. Joes youtube comments have always been 99% positive too so he'd have to really really dig to find nasty ones
@@libyang84I thought the same thing like a year ago, but they just have the same monotone style. If you go listen to diesel and then 2lazy, is clearly different people.
3rd definition of commit: transfer something to (a state or place). "he composed a letter but didn't commit it to paper" consign (someone) officially to prison, especially on remand. "he was committed to prison for contempt of court"
How about if Joe, a guy approaching his 60s, wasn't _always_ impaired on cannabis during interviews? Maybe, his bullshit meter would be working properly.
It is disturbing that the modern day journalist is expected to argue with people who they interview. As a society, we've taken such a hard leap into 'fake news' that a journalist who doesn't express their subjective opinion is considered bad at their job. Rogan is a good podcaster because he asks questions and doesn't judge the answer. It doesn't matter if he thinks something is BS or not. The second he calls someone out, it's no longer an interview. Objectivity matters.
50 years for "just pistol whipping someone"? Nah there had to be way more to justify 50 years, wtf kind of To Kill A Mockingbird type shit they think they're pulling?
I think remark shows what an ignorant, LA kind of guy Rogan is. It's not like movies where pistol whipping someone magically causes them to fall asleep and then just wake up with a headache and a small trickle of blood on their forehead. You can kill someone doing that. Guns are SOLID and they HURT as blunt force weapons. Totally lethal. You can see videos of people having seizures just from being punched in the head. Pistol whipping someone is equivalent to hitting someone with one of those old-fashioned wrenches. It's attempted murder. Guy is total trash and Rogan is slime.
I like how Joe still admitted that the 50 yr sentence was too long😂 like if he did his 50 bid (for armed robbery and assault keep in mind) he wouldn’t have been able to cut a man’s head off. The original sentence was for once a perfect sentence for a criminal
I agree with Rogan that there's many people who are wrongfully put in prison or receive overly severe sentences. However, Johnson's interview was full of red flags. He lied to Joe's face twice in the span of a minute or so, saying he didn't hurt his victims and then backtracking when he knew he went too far. He bragged about the authority he had over other gang members in prison, mentioning how he's a rules-oriented person and had the ability to enforce them in jail, all while never accepting that society itself has its own rules, which he continuously broke. He referred to his son's criminal activity as him "getting into a fight" with a Columbia University student, which is the most deceptive way to describe what his son did; an unprovoked assault which led to his victim's death. He even called the black judge who sentenced him a race traitor for putting him away for so long, when most of the victims of his own criminality were probably black as well. This man is a predator, and now he's probably done irreparable harm to the people who tried to help him.
It‘s not unpopular. It‘s wrong and stupid. Good people can get in rough spots or meet the wrong influences. Also you throw some minor offense in one bucket with mass murderers. Like i said, ignorant and stupid take.
@@DailyShit.you claiming he is 100% wrong is just as dumb as him claiming they’re all bad. There are 100% just garbage people in this planet that will never cgg he ange (change, so glad autocorrect has devolved in the past few years.)
It's funny this kind of thinking always comes from right wing dorks who stan for Trump of all people lmao. If you think the world is black and white, you're a goddamn fool.
It's not slavery, it helps the state pay they roughly 120,000 dollars per year to keep a single inmate and the work wages provide savings after release and the possibility to purchase things from the commisary that make life infinitely easier to do time.
Your point being ? The government spends money that goes to profit-driven private corporations. If you think lobbyism is excluded for the prison sector, you are mislead.
He was one of those guys who never gets tired of hearing himself talk and says pretty much nothing of value but thinks he's really special, i think they are called "comedians"
Watch that show "I Am A Killer"; all these guys have a sob story or convincing tale that they've practiced every day for years waiting to be put before a parole board. When the detectives and prosecutors come on and tell the other side of the story you see how grotesque the person behind the glass is almost every single time. Don't buy stuff like this.
How they tell the story. This guy claimed the guy he roughed up owed him money. I'm willing to bet he didn't owe him money, and it was just random. What drug dealer deals drugs on credit?
@@vinyllpreviews9462dealing drugs on consignment is way too common of a practice in the criminal world. there are always people that need to get rid of work, and there are always broke people willing to sell that 'work' for them.
Grew up around a few career criminals. a lot of them feel they've "earned" what they're being reprimanded for once they're caught. The best way I can explain it is when a dude told me "I'm already in jail for trying to rob that dude, so I may as well and go get him when I get out!" like legit making plains to successfully commit the crimes they were caught for. Scary mentality. The dude really reminded me of that while watching the podcast.
I have hated Josh Dubin ever since his first Rogan appearance, where he repeatedly shit on Kamala Harris for her aggressive prosecutorial tactics and then essentially said "vote blue no matter who". This feels like divine justice to me for allowing him to live in my head rent free.
I think he has done some good but I agree with you. I forget his name but it was a bald dude that got wrongfully convicted of murder and the police mishandled his evidence that he didn't do it. He eventually gets out and seems like a genuine guy. However, he certainly fucked up here. Though I think more of the blame should be on Sheldon, because it was his actions. Though Dubin got duped, so its Joe's fault for trusting him. Idk man this is a terrible situation. I like Joe, I just think he was wrong here, and I think he should've made it more clear that the dude was crazy.
@@eobardthawn6903Maybe Joe should do some prep before he has people on? I stopped watching years ago because he just didn't seem to know much about who his guests really were.
The worst part is how much this kind of thing sets back the prison reform movement. It is inarguable that there are massive problems in criminal justice in America, and when you advocate for those specific people it's only a matter of time until a guy like this gets through. It sucks for literally everybody.
Joe downplaying this could very well be part of a legal strategy to avoid getting sued by the victim's family for helping sell this guys' image as "reformed", if Dubin also somehow got dragged into a lawsuit. If I was the family, I would bring a GIANT civil suit down on Dubin's ass.
i wouldnt fully dismiss joe saying "maybe its the prison time that did this to him" type of thinking, but this dude was already robbin people and deep into the streets. Maybe if he was locked up for something super minor like shoplifting or so, and then came out being absolutely wild and killin the dude, then i could fully get behind the "prison changed them" narrative. (Like in the show Oz from HBO yeeears ago. The character Beecher starts out as an absolute weenie, but the longer hes in the crazier and more wild/violent he got)
He didn't seem that reformed in that final podcast. Admittedly, hindsight is 20:20, and not too many people pointed out his "unreformed" sounding comments before that guy reverted back to his murderous ways. More than anything, the Innocence Project gets murderers off on technicalities.
I have a cousin who murdered someone and spent 24 years in prison in California, and he's been out for 3 years, working full-time and has a girlfriend now too.
Committing a serious crime and getting a very stiff sentence doesn't mean you're innocent or a victim. You don't know what sentence you're going to get if you armed rob and assault someone......so don't do it?
It's not ridiculous that two different people would have two different outcomes after prison. Every prisoner will adapt to life on the outside differently. This shouldn't stop people from supporting The Innocence Project, and all the good they do to free people who have been wrongfully convicted by using DNA evidence that wasn't available at trial.
It always come back to being from white guilt. Black people can do no wrong and when they do wrong, the punishment is too harsh and when they say they're sorry we're all just supposed to forget. It's just a weak mindset.
I don’t think he’s blaming it on the justice system, he brings up that point of view, and then immediately says how he doesn’t know because plenty of people who got out were better people.
Joe is such a great comedian like laughing about the guy cutting off another persons head off two months after having him on your podcast and saying how black people get a raw deal 🙄
5:30 Joe calls prison, jail. he corrects himself as he moves on, but let it be known jail is very different than prison. jail is full of people that want to go home. prison is full of people that are home.
Joes refuses to ever be judgmental of black ppl. Thats the only issue here. He knows 100% that dude was still a bad guy, but he would never come out and fully say that. He instead says prison made him a worse guy than when he went in. Joes reasonings on some things are brilliant, and other times idiotic. Which probably relates to 99% of ppl in these comments, but none of use are listened to by 100s of millions of ppl yearly.
The worst part is the hypocrisy
He didn't even know he was guilty
"Help, help! Hypocrisy!" What an absolute classic bit.
i always thought the bad part was the murder!
I like this guy because he saves me a lot of time instead of watching the whole podcast.
here I thought it was the beheading
"kindof a bad guy" is a crazy way to describe someone who cut a dudes head off
He said it facetiously tho
Yeah, it was clearly an understatement 😅
"That guy's a real jerk!"
Joe is a deeply closeted woke libt@rd
@@michael5654 yeah but he seriously said putting black men in prison is modern slavery
Imagine if he stayed in prison for 50 years. The victim would still be alive.
Maybe, maybe not. Impossible to say
@@pokemaster211what? He wouldn’t have been murdered by this guy lmao
@@pokemaster211It’s entirely possible he wouldn’t have been beheaded by this guy.
Entirely possible
The victim would be 400 pounds milking welfare ..no big loss
I mean the victim wouldn't be alive eventually
Turns out these fellas in jail might be criminals, who’d have thunk it
Sheldon Johnson Jr wasn't the first reformed criminal to guest on Joe's pod, all the others have stayed out of trouble. So why is such a conclusion being made based on an outlier? How about simply judging people and their circumstances on a case-by-case basis?
@@LegendaryTony.yeah.....and in this particular case it was dumb to assume the guy was reformed, and even dumber to double down after he went back for MURDER, get it? He went back for MURDER and Joe is still toeing the same line, that's why people are giving him flack. Because he isn't condemning this guy after he MURDERED somebody 😂😂
@@LegendaryTony.
"all the others have stayed out of trouble"
You just made this up with no evidence whatsoever. The largest source of violence in America comes from repeat offenders who are often released ahead of schedule or even never sentenced to prison in the first place. That's a fact you can look up. The Innocence Project is an attempt to destroy society.
@@seamusgreenmurphy Yeah the guy's a PΘS, and Joe has no backbone for not condemning him. The vast majority of peopIe are condemning him, incIuding bIαck peopIe and peopIe on the Ieft. Which makes Joe's stance even more weird. Maybe it's just an ego thing, and Joe doesn't want to admit that he fell for Sheldon's BS.
Regardless, l wasn't defending Sheldon, it just seemed Iike yoυ were using him as an example to say no former inmates can be reformed and none have ever been wrongly or unfairly sentenced. Apologies if that wasn't the case.
@@LegendaryTony. I love you talking about outliers like they haven’t been personally selected to be on JRE. You think maybe perhaps THEY ARE THR OUTLIERS
he did not get 50 years for pistol whipping a guy! He got 50 years for the previous multiple violent convictions he had been given a chance for, which he also squandered!
I might be wrong, but was he also not a prominent member of the blood gand
I don't get how Rogan and Co. don't get that. It's not just a punishment for one bad deed. You're being locked up because you've shown you can't be trusted and rightly so.
@@mitchellvangrieken3900isn't that sort of like double jeopardy?
@@YYmmmYY there's punishment for breaking the rules, and there's extra punishment for not learning the first time
@@mitchellvangrieken3900Cool, I think we’re on board here and I get what you’re saying. But you can’t charge someone with “not learnin’ the first time” and if you charge him for the same thing then that IS Double Jeopardy. 50 years is 50 years but attempted murder is attempted murder plus his high standing within the bloods is a worse look along with his record at the time. As long as he stayed committing BS felonies over time, he was always going to get something like 50 years for attempted murder. “Not learning the first time” is a generality applied to the act getting arrested but more importantly convicted of anything and not for getting convicted for the same thing twice
"He didnt get touched, roughed him up a lil bit"
How they downplayed him getting 25 years for 2 stitches. They acted like it was for some bar fight. Nope, armed robbery and they pistol whipped the guy.
Yea, I can see 25 years. So, if I rob a bank and nobody gets stitches, I should be out on probation.
@@vinyllpreviews9462 he pistol whipped the guy and his gang robbed his girlfriend. Why would the judge want him out on the streets. Self accountability is lost
@abel6416 I was saying they downplayed on the podcast like it was just a bar fight or something.
He got 25 years for 2 stitches. Joe, wow, 2 stitches.
Then we find out the story was armed robbery and pistol whipping a guy. Seriously, plenty of crimes nobody gets physically hurt. But they acted like 2 stitches, no biggie, I was like, it's armed robbery and assalt.
@@vinyllpreviews9462 😂 u misunderstood me. I’m agreeing with you. The criminal was saying the judge was racist , because Black Judge told him that he was a menace to society. The judge was right.
The judge also knew he was high up in a gang. Joe is lefty brained.
“He may have broke the law but honestly, I think the law broke him..”
- Bro Rogan
Gay af😂
this dude didn't do just murder, he slayed and decapitated body parts, gruesome, my my my goodness
Dismembering a corpse is RIDICULOUS. How could anyone defend that?! NY or NJ had no bail for 4 people who dismembered a body... No BAIL set. WTF. NY is COOKED!
Which parts did he decapitate???
@@rickydanielson7953 I think i worded it wrong, he sliced the whole body parts
@@rickydanielson7953Femurs and male appendages 😂
It was a bit much tbh
Looking back??? I watched about an hour of the podcast with that dude and was shocked he was on JRE. Dude refused to take any responsibility for his crimes and gave zero indication he was a reformed. Dude Gave me the creeps with that fake intellectual BS he was trying to pull off
He literally said, I can always go back to crime.
It’s like watching a sociopathic murder speak in real time
It’s like watching a sociopathic murder speak in real time
It’s like watching a sociopathic killer speak in real time
But he a good boi.
Some people are bad Joe
And sometimes they're black
I don't see a societal phenomenon of people making excuses for white career criminals recalcitrancy
Which he literally said could be the case.
@@DadeMurphie😂😂😂 no this reaction has a different energy
Stop being a pessimist hazelsam
People can’t even say that anymore. Insane
Joe Rigatoni puts on his “black people can do no wrong” hat every day.
They have a funny way of talking.
Not really,
They're pitbulls to Joe.
Just depends on the owner how they'll behave.
Joe's a deeply closeted woke liberal
How so?
Joe is allergic to thinking black people have self responsibility
He’s primarily only spent time around blacks in a controlled environment…(gyms, UFC, comedy clubs, podcasts) …he doesn’t really know what a black person is.
Right? I'm sick of him talking about the former Baltimore cop who found documents from the 70's about all the same crimes in the same neighborhoods. Maybe, just maybe, it's the demographic and culture there, and not the police policies
he's raising one
Interesting. I was watching a different video where one guy commented how ultra conservative and right wing Joe is on the tucker Carlson episode. But yeah it’s pretty obvious Joe doesn’t want to "say the wrong thing".
well he kind of has to be for optics, in todays society..
The mental gymnastics in his reasoning ("maybe the prison made him like that") deserves a gold medal.
I do not understand why he couldn't just say "Yeah that was fucked up what he did I mean I really believed him during the podcast but that's crazy that he ended up being a psycho". Like why keep sticking up for this guy at all in any way
Because Rogan is an intellectual and moral fool on many, many topics. He comes from Hollywood man, that place ROTS your brain. Even if you relocate to Texas.
It's actually possible, people use ptsd for veterans often. Prisons can be brutal.
@@cinnamoncigarettesyou know why. And so do I. The same reason every rich person loses their shit in one way or another. They never can do wrong.
That might be true, though. Prison doesn’t have a reputation for rehabilitation.
Joe Rogan's attitude is actually pretty screwed up if you really look at it, and it is the same attitude Josh Dubin expressed: in essence, its excusable to assault or harm certain people if they are considered to be part of criminal underworld. Violence enacted on those people is of less consequence and should basically just be ignored, is what I'm getting from the way Dubin and Rogan refer to the pistol-whipping and robbery. That's really not so different from the attitude that street crime is okay so long as it is contained to certain neighborhoods or groups.
Elite leftist thought in a nutshell. Called the bigotry of low expectations, just excuse completely abhorent behavior because..well, "you know, it's socio-economic" or whatever other BS excuse
Rogan is an Italian so yeah he thinks that way Italians are not that removed from Blacks when it comes to how they view criminality.
The assumption is that the people on the street are more fair than police and the justice system, which is true in a lot of cases.
A good defense attorney isn't the bad guy, when the prosecutor doesn't do their job properly - guilty people get to walk.
Random people don't get on JRE. This pardon was courtesy of Alvin Bragg, an Obama-era cabinet official if I recall correctly, or attorney-general or something. The man who is back in prison is what would be called in their organization a "hitter", and a very favored one at that. Sure seems like an experienced guy, the way he was disposing of that body so patiently. Anyway, the FBI probably knows what's up with this mob or they wouldn't have been able to nab their murderer so easily. Joe Rogan and his friends are genuinely some of the worst people in the world.
"Jamie, pull up that video of a bear fighting a dismembered body in a freezer."
This is still funny even after people saying it 5,000 times....
Hahaha that's great
its really bad with the races, blacks insist on viewing by races, the being slaves had nothing to do with their skin color, it was the way of the time period. If they weren't here they would be stuck in Africa somewhere. U.s is one of the first countries not to only free slaves but allow them into society. More white people died in the civil war for blacks rights than blacks have. blacks kill each other more than white kill them. Most blacks are the new racist, that's why most mixed identify as black because they view the white part as weak/bad. anyone can play the race game.
Jamie Vernon, his father is Michael Donnell vernon of the 1576 battalion 2 Pensacola Florida navy, specialized in information warfare...
@@wakenow1We can tell what you said was serious because of the elipses...
Guys let’s not lose our heads over this
Lol
lol nice
😂😂 2lazy pin this. Lighten the mood in the comments.
Not Aziz laughing at a guy’s head getting cut off recently. You’re not on Flagrant now, Aziz. Pipe tf down.
not that?
@@Joe-sg9ll😂😂😂
Calm down
How about you pipe down.
Aziz 😂😂😂I’m dead
Rogan has officially become the male Oprah. Lol. He went full Winfrey. Lol
The only time I remotely like him and even then isn't very much is when he's piss drunk with shane, mark, and ari
i dont think this requires two "lol"s
No he hasn't.
Never go full Winfrey
Joprah
A black judge gave him 50 years and called this guy a menace. never forget that fact joe.
Josh Dubin has mostly defended people who are absolutely guilty of what they’ve been arrested for.
Well that's on the prosecutor, not the defense attorney. It's the basis for the justice system.
It's extremely difficult to get a sentence overturned there has to be a good basis for why they got out, what's your source for that?
@@mypud4068i'd like a source to. I have seen videos showing Josh has tried to get guilty ppl released but it's like 3 examples in the videos.
@glandhound he isn't defending them in court. He's going on Joe's show and lying about their cases. Like the woman who had "no history of abuse," despite having had like 8 kids (other than the one she killed) taken away from her.
jooey
Sheldon let the JRE appearance go to his head
This made me laugh so hard
why are you scared of black people?
I'm more disappointed at Joe for having Akaash on than his comments about the killer dude.
That kid is insufferable
2lazy2try next video: “ The Downfall of Joe Rogan”
I know the scripture says "judge not lest ye be judged" but this Brendan Johnson guy sounds like a real jerk.
RIP Norm
“He was a habitual criminal”
**proceeds to blame everything on the Justice System**
“To have once been a criminal is no disgrace. To remain a criminal is the disgrace.”
- Malcolm X
“Nah.”
- Sheldon
I cant believe the police made that guy cut someone's head off... terrible
Kind of makes you wonder about Josh Dubin and his innocence project.
I don't believe in single slip-ups.
Really? Do you have kids?
@@yooyo8303 lmao!
Whatcha mean you don’t believe in single slip ups
So either you’re perfect or a complete fuck up in your eyes?
Dubin is a pretty interesting last name. I wonder where it comes from
What I wanna know more is Josh Dubins response, I can't find it anywhere
that is his response
Damn so Joe is telling the truth when he says he doesnt read comments anymore, he still thinks Sheldon only pistol whipped and robbed somebody for his money back lol. smh. Sheesh. That's honestly disappointing . The sense of community really wont ever be the same as the old JRE days. He used to talk about how funny the comments were and stuff. Joes youtube comments have always been 99% positive too so he'd have to really really dig to find nasty ones
Feel this, the livestream days were especially special
If you look up the etymology for the surname Dubin...you get exactly what you expect.
I love bagels and lox
Interesting.
When this story came out, I did just that...
Zero surprises.
If you can't immediately tell by looking at any name, your jaydar still has a long way to go. Keep training!
A choo 🤧
When you dont even have to look it up...
Rich guys with arm tats suck
i swear this guy sounds like Diesel Patches if i close my eyes
It has to be the same guy that goes around talking about drama on two different sides of the internet. Genius😂
@@libyang84 lmao probably
@@libyang84 they both use still images, though we never seem 2lazy2try play any games in the background, but we could just be talking hoot-nanny
@@libyang84I thought the same thing like a year ago, but they just have the same monotone style. If you go listen to diesel and then 2lazy, is clearly different people.
2lazy2try is diesel patches if diesel patches was dead inside, lol.
I knew it! That portobello mushroom guy had to whack someone
Paul Stamets is the highest ranking CIA agent lol.
@@dogshakemy man
I cant stop thinking about that
Lmaoooo
@IceWallowPHe's accomplished more than you ever have or ever will.
this video almost gaslighted me in thinking commited means convicted
Lmao!!! I've been looking for a comment about that.
THEY ARENT BEING COMMITTED TO PRISON MY DUDE!
3rd definition of commit:
transfer something to (a state or place).
"he composed a letter but didn't commit it to paper"
consign (someone) officially to prison, especially on remand.
"he was committed to prison for contempt of court"
How about if Joe, a guy approaching his 60s, wasn't _always_ impaired on cannabis during interviews?
Maybe, his bullshit meter would be working properly.
It is disturbing that the modern day journalist is expected to argue with people who they interview. As a society, we've taken such a hard leap into 'fake news' that a journalist who doesn't express their subjective opinion is considered bad at their job.
Rogan is a good podcaster because he asks questions and doesn't judge the answer. It doesn't matter if he thinks something is BS or not. The second he calls someone out, it's no longer an interview. Objectivity matters.
“impaired on cannabis” holy fuck you’re a geek grow chest hair
Yep, that and the ungodly amounts of testosterone and hgh he’s taking at his age are really starting to dumb him down even more.
Derp @@glandhound
He is a completely different guy when sober. Sadly he does most episodes now high af
50 years for "just pistol whipping someone"? Nah there had to be way more to justify 50 years, wtf kind of To Kill A Mockingbird type shit they think they're pulling?
I think remark shows what an ignorant, LA kind of guy Rogan is. It's not like movies where pistol whipping someone magically causes them to fall asleep and then just wake up with a headache and a small trickle of blood on their forehead. You can kill someone doing that. Guns are SOLID and they HURT as blunt force weapons. Totally lethal. You can see videos of people having seizures just from being punched in the head. Pistol whipping someone is equivalent to hitting someone with one of those old-fashioned wrenches. It's attempted murder. Guy is total trash and Rogan is slime.
I like how Joe still admitted that the 50 yr sentence was too long😂 like if he did his 50 bid (for armed robbery and assault keep in mind) he wouldn’t have been able to cut a man’s head off. The original sentence was for once a perfect sentence for a criminal
no to perfect, got released and murdered someone. Crazy how one throws away a new lease on life.
You keep saying “wrongfully committed” it’s not a mental institution, it’s “wrongfully convicted” because they were “convicted” of a crime
Joe lost his credibility long before any of this
He really never had any, besides UFC and Fear Factor and being in some funny shows? Lol
Most sane reformed ⚫️ man
I agree with Rogan that there's many people who are wrongfully put in prison or receive overly severe sentences. However, Johnson's interview was full of red flags. He lied to Joe's face twice in the span of a minute or so, saying he didn't hurt his victims and then backtracking when he knew he went too far. He bragged about the authority he had over other gang members in prison, mentioning how he's a rules-oriented person and had the ability to enforce them in jail, all while never accepting that society itself has its own rules, which he continuously broke.
He referred to his son's criminal activity as him "getting into a fight" with a Columbia University student, which is the most deceptive way to describe what his son did; an unprovoked assault which led to his victim's death. He even called the black judge who sentenced him a race traitor for putting him away for so long, when most of the victims of his own criminality were probably black as well. This man is a predator, and now he's probably done irreparable harm to the people who tried to help him.
Socio economic factors at it again
Dubin is a problem. He also defended a woman on JRE who beat her baby to death.
3:01 I thought that was Tom Segura for a second 😂
Amazingly the rain hoodie at trial is the same apparel fit for dismemberment..
Here's an unpopular opinion... criminals don't change. They just get good at acting.
It‘s not unpopular. It‘s wrong and stupid. Good people can get in rough spots or meet the wrong influences. Also you throw some minor offense in one bucket with mass murderers. Like i said, ignorant and stupid take.
@@DailyShit.you claiming he is 100% wrong is just as dumb as him claiming they’re all bad. There are 100% just garbage people in this planet that will never cgg he ange (change, so glad autocorrect has devolved in the past few years.)
It's funny this kind of thinking always comes from right wing dorks who stan for Trump of all people lmao. If you think the world is black and white, you're a goddamn fool.
2Lazy, I can't wait to hear you talk about whatever podcast Kanye West goes on next after dropping YeezyPorn
Fyi all of the innocence projects people are evil and weren't "wrongly convicted" stop saying that
Alls i know is Joe is a great judge of character. Wish he was my parole occifer
Ngl, my respect for Joe has gone down a little bit with this response
Dude has lost all sense of humility.
His anxiety and ego took over.
@@DailyShit. Anxiety?
It's not slavery, it helps the state pay they roughly 120,000 dollars per year to keep a single inmate and the work wages provide savings after release and the possibility to purchase things from the commisary that make life infinitely easier to do time.
Your point being ? The government spends money that goes to profit-driven private corporations.
If you think lobbyism is excluded for the prison sector, you are mislead.
Unreal
Joe is becoming more unlikable day by day.
He was one of those guys who never gets tired of hearing himself talk and says pretty much nothing of value but thinks he's really special, i think they are called "comedians"
Watch that show "I Am A Killer"; all these guys have a sob story or convincing tale that they've practiced every day for years waiting to be put before a parole board. When the detectives and prosecutors come on and tell the other side of the story you see how grotesque the person behind the glass is almost every single time. Don't buy stuff like this.
How they tell the story. This guy claimed the guy he roughed up owed him money.
I'm willing to bet he didn't owe him money, and it was just random. What drug dealer deals drugs on credit?
@@vinyllpreviews9462dealing drugs on consignment is way too common of a practice in the criminal world. there are always people that need to get rid of work, and there are always broke people willing to sell that 'work' for them.
wrongfully CONVICTED they aren't going to the mental institution
insane how he just started laughing like someone didn't get brutally murdered.
Grew up around a few career criminals. a lot of them feel they've "earned" what they're being reprimanded for once they're caught. The best way I can explain it is when a dude told me "I'm already in jail for trying to rob that dude, so I may as well and go get him when I get out!" like legit making plains to successfully commit the crimes they were caught for. Scary mentality. The dude really reminded me of that while watching the podcast.
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I have hated Josh Dubin ever since his first Rogan appearance, where he repeatedly shit on Kamala Harris for her aggressive prosecutorial tactics and then essentially said "vote blue no matter who". This feels like divine justice to me for allowing him to live in my head rent free.
I think he has done some good but I agree with you. I forget his name but it was a bald dude that got wrongfully convicted of murder and the police mishandled his evidence that he didn't do it. He eventually gets out and seems like a genuine guy.
However, he certainly fucked up here. Though I think more of the blame should be on Sheldon, because it was his actions. Though Dubin got duped, so its Joe's fault for trusting him. Idk man this is a terrible situation. I like Joe, I just think he was wrong here, and I think he should've made it more clear that the dude was crazy.
@@eobardthawn6903Maybe Joe should do some prep before he has people on? I stopped watching years ago because he just didn't seem to know much about who his guests really were.
Nobody says "wrongfully commited"
The worst part is how much this kind of thing sets back the prison reform movement. It is inarguable that there are massive problems in criminal justice in America, and when you advocate for those specific people it's only a matter of time until a guy like this gets through. It sucks for literally everybody.
"Well he was a habitual criminal before, and assaulted somebody over money but, mAyBe PrIsOn MaDe HiM dO iT" even Joe's cope sounds ludicrous 😂😂
Josh Rubin is a terrible judge of character
Joe downplaying this could very well be part of a legal strategy to avoid getting sued by the victim's family for helping sell this guys' image as "reformed", if Dubin also somehow got dragged into a lawsuit. If I was the family, I would bring a GIANT civil suit down on Dubin's ass.
I remember the last dude josh dubin had on. When he said " 5 years for armed robbery is a harsh sentence " and joe agreed i stopped listening.
2:14 tf are we laughing at exactly?
Rogan finally addressing the elephant in the room.
Lol joe said said “doo doo” 1:42
That's real life, man. Don't be embarrassed you had a killer on. I can't remember if you had Hillary or not....
When will people learn that the innocent project is far from innocent.
Wrongfully committed???? Come on bro
Sheldon is coooohuhuhckd. Do you understand?
how is Joe trying to justify this shit
i wouldnt fully dismiss joe saying "maybe its the prison time that did this to him" type of thinking, but this dude was already robbin people and deep into the streets. Maybe if he was locked up for something super minor like shoplifting or so, and then came out being absolutely wild and killin the dude, then i could fully get behind the "prison changed them" narrative. (Like in the show Oz from HBO yeeears ago. The character Beecher starts out as an absolute weenie, but the longer hes in the crazier and more wild/violent he got)
He didn't seem that reformed in that final podcast. Admittedly, hindsight is 20:20, and not too many people pointed out his "unreformed" sounding comments before that guy reverted back to his murderous ways.
More than anything, the Innocence Project gets murderers off on technicalities.
We are good with the free stuff my boy thank you
Friendly correction, 2lazy2try.
"Committed" and "convicted" do not mean the same thing.
What an extreme redundancy.
You wrote the cause in the correction. He’s too lazy too try, inb4.
Just to legally save his ass.
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I have a cousin who murdered someone and spent 24 years in prison in California, and he's been out for 3 years, working full-time and has a girlfriend now too.
TBH we cant blame Joe he cant control what is guest do outside of his podcast...
Because you didn't put the "h" in "his", I read this in an annoying British accent.
You actually can tho
no one ever did. His response was rightfully critisized
That's not the issue..
Sheldon’s a good guy, just misunderstood
I tried watching this while using weed, and it's just some dude reading comments about a subject matter.
What baffles me is that Akash is on jre! 😂😂😂 all joe needed was another yes man lmao
More like The Ignorance Project.
If you’re going to address it addressing it with this guy asked him nobody cares about is a good way to make sure nobody hears about it
Committing a serious crime and getting a very stiff sentence doesn't mean you're innocent or a victim. You don't know what sentence you're going to get if you armed rob and assault someone......so don't do it?
It's not ridiculous that two different people would have two different outcomes after prison. Every prisoner will adapt to life on the outside differently. This shouldn't stop people from supporting The Innocence Project, and all the good they do to free people who have been wrongfully convicted by using DNA evidence that wasn't available at trial.
It always come back to being from white guilt. Black people can do no wrong and when they do wrong, the punishment is too harsh and when they say they're sorry we're all just supposed to forget. It's just a weak mindset.
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14. Your videos are like a flower of knowledge in my garden
I don't think that's a haiku
"You can take the man out of California, but you can't take the California out of the man. - Wayne Gretzky" - Michael Scott
I don’t think he’s blaming it on the justice system, he brings up that point of view, and then immediately says how he doesn’t know because plenty of people who got out were better people.
Joe Rogan? More like Joe Rogaine, amirite?
Alright. It’s only my second time catching a new 2Lazy vid. I’m doing my best.
The Josh dubin podcasts are horrible
I agree the justice system is flawed. A violent criminal was let out of prison and allowed to murder a person.
Joe is such a great comedian like laughing about the guy cutting off another persons head off two months after having him on your podcast and saying how black people get a raw deal 🙄
Gosh joe is real ignorant. But that’s alright he’s rich
Rogan is gross. The way he fed one of his oldest dearest friends Hancock to some woke Hobbit Flint Diddlr. It was disgusting.
Can you explain? I know who Hancock is but I have no idea what this comment is in reference to, lol.
^^^Will Smith starred in the movie, Hancock
@@AstroBimpson Graham Hancock
@@nickleplease LOL !
5:30 Joe calls prison, jail. he corrects himself as he moves on, but let it be known jail is very different than prison. jail is full of people that want to go home. prison is full of people that are home.
Scott Adams was... CORRECT?!?!
Joes refuses to ever be judgmental of black ppl. Thats the only issue here. He knows 100% that dude was still a bad guy, but he would never come out and fully say that. He instead says prison made him a worse guy than when he went in. Joes reasonings on some things are brilliant, and other times idiotic. Which probably relates to 99% of ppl in these comments, but none of use are listened to by 100s of millions of ppl yearly.
0:16 not wrongfully committed. Wrongfully CONVICTED.
sorry im kinda retarded
@@2lazy2tryYT It's ok, I still love ya. And I wasn't making fun of you I was just letting you know for the next time 😊
@@2lazy2tryYT name the j Ew already.