Best Settings you need - LG 27GR95QE 240Hz OLED Monitor
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UPDATED NOTES FOR NEW FIRMWARE BELOW. The settings you need to change to get the most out of your LG 27GR95QE OLED monitor for SDR and HDR modes.
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APRIL 2023 FIRMWARE UPDATE
The new firmware has made only a very minor change to SDR brightness, so our recommendations for SDR mode and brightness settings remain basically the same. For HDR, Gamer 2 mode has now been changed to be much cooler (~8900K) in an effort to cheat a higher peak brightness (~880 nits). Our recommendation for HDR has therefore changed. Stick to HDR 'Gamer 1' mode for the better white point ~6500K, unless you specifically like a cooler image.
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SHADOW DETAIL INSTRUCTIONS
Option 1
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1) Download and purchase (small fee) the MediaLight Shadow Detail test patterns from here: www.biaslighting.com/products...
2) Run the SDR video from a suitable player full screen and in a dark room, and observe flashing black and grey shade boxes. Allow your eyes time to adjust
3) Box 64 should be black, and boxes 65 and 66 should also be indistinguishably dark (so also black). Ideally box 67 would be the first grey shade you can make out above black
Option 2
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1) Or alternatively you could use this simpler but more limited free test pattern: www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.ph... (maybe best to save it to PC, then view in full screen to get a fully black outer area)
2) Box 1 should be black, but box 2 and upwards should be different visible shades of grey (2 being very dark) ideally.
Adjusting Black Stablizer for both options
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1) Adjust display's "black stabilizer" setting to help bring out more shadow detail and the boxes from 67 upwards on video, or box 2 and upwards on the test image.
2) Don't go above a Black Stabilizer setting of 60 or you will cause blacks to be raised significantly and they will look dark grey.
3) Settings of 55 and 60 should cause imperceptible changes to the black depth from a normal viewing position, even in a fully dark room. This may vary by panel but that was certainly the case on our sample. You do not want to raise this setting so high that it causes blacks to be raised visibly.
4) If you move very close to the screen, and are in a fully dark room, you may be able to pick out some VERY minor black depth change if you look at the edge of the screen where the black panel border is, and switch between 55 and 60. It's still a black depth below our measurement device limit (less than 0.002 nits) and from any normal viewing position, and in any normal lighting conditions, we think this is impossible to see. If you find it a problem on your unit, stick with a lower setting like 55.
5) Variations may be different by sample, although we found the most significant improvement to shadow detail was when jumping from 55 to 60.
6) In the video, which has a very fine greyscale image you won't always be able to see all shades from 67 onwards, but adjusting "Black stabilizer" should have helped compared with the default setting of 50
7) Experiment with this setting and find the most appropriate for your uses, eyes, ambient lighting condition, panel sample etc
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APRIL 2023 FIRMWARE UPDATE - the new firmware has made only a very minor change to SDR brightness, so our recommendations for SDR mode and brightness settings remain basically the same. For HDR, Gamer 2 mode has now been changed to be much cooler (~8900K) in an effort to cheat a higher peak brightness (~880 nits). Our recommendation for HDR has therefore changed - stick to HDR Gamer 1 mode for the better white point ~6500K, unless you specifically like a cooler image
so the update came out march 31 is this the april firmware they were talking about or do they have plans on giving us a firmware for april ?
It’s the same one
@@tftcentral the only way I can seem to get the panel to work at 240hz on resolutions below native is to set scaling on gpu can you test to see if it increases input lag once you do this ?
Hello, could you explain what 'input compatibility version 2.1' (pc) and (av) are and how to choose?
That’s for the HDMI input. You’d normally leave it on v2.1 unless you had very specific problems with older HDMI devices like a dvd player or something that might require you to switch over to the other mode
Thank you for the work.
Thank you guys, much appreciated!
@tftcentral , I just followed every settings on this video and it fixed the issues I was having !!! You’re a legend , It was user error on my end by only changing half of them 2 days ago . Thank you so much
Can’t wait for the new 27GS95QE review and preferred settings!
Thanks for the quick answers to my Q’s to a video you uploaded a year ago! Thank you Sir
Glad to help!
Just got my oled today so happy will use setting also
i ordered this monitor few days ago. thank you!
Thank you so much! Amazing settings.
Very helpful. Should be the standard video after testing panels, I always find it such a hit and miss method when doing it myself. This is a nice general direction you are pointing. Thanks.
Thanks. I think we will prob do these for the big, popular screens when we can as I know people find them really useful 😀
THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO MUCH APPRECIATED
I like this idea, Simon. I'm going to steal it. 😉
Cheeky bugger 😜
just got this model a day ago and i must say, its well and good! i dont get the dim brightness that people are getting even in hdr with 100% brightness and game mode fps, its still bright enough for my eyes to see dark spots when playing games with dark portions. clarity and smoothness in fps games are also great and i don think its lacking at all.
thank you ive now decided to keep my lg oled ultragear
Thank you guys for this. I just got this monitor last week I love it. I do have a few questions.
What Nvidia desktop color settings are you using?
Also what Windows HDR settings are you using?
No changes from default on the graphics card side in those areas. Apart from stuff at start of the video
Thanks for this! Are there any specific Windows settings that need changing to get the best out of this? Also, I wish we had a better timeframe from Overclockers than just 'around April'. I am dying with anticipation for my pre-order! I want to believe before end of March is still a possability haha!
Hi Josh. Apart from ensuring correct res, colour depth and refresh in Windows, no real need to change anything. I prefer to make the changes to the monitor OSD if anything needs tweaking. You could also try our calibrated ICC profile for colour aware applications too :)
I vastly prefer the "RTS" preset for HDR over the other ones. It's the only one that looks warm without being too saturated like Gamer 2.
These types of videos are great. Hope you make the same for the pg32ucdm when it comes out. It will be popular
Thanks! Yes we will def try
I use the pixel shift mode 1, and I even had mode 4 for a few months. I am not even sure if mode 1 or 4 is the most frequent one with biggest shift, apparently from searching online it's the mode 1 that is shifting the most and more often but I could never tell, I never noticed the shift unless I really focus on the screen like when writing something for example, like for example this comment, I didn't notice it shift, maybe I blinked lol. It's sad there's no decisive official information on these modes.
I hope LG is sponsoring you @tftcentral !! Haha , Just spent 30 min reading comments & replies from you regarding this monitor . You have way more patience than I do . I feel bad for asking you the same Q’s everyone else was while you answered the corrected actions thousand times . thank you bro, You’re my HERO right now 🐐😎🤘🏼🍿
Haha if only they paid me for answering inane questions 😀 happy to help though
On 50s you suggest to enable under Display Specific settings "Enable settings for the selected display model". This is causing flickering on a games (example Ghost Recon Breakpoint) at least for me
VRR/Gsync/Freesync isn't activated in games if you don't "check" that. You can confirm this w/ g-sync demo etc. Not every game is going to be perfect w/ it. Sea of Thieves is another game w/ a lot of flickering, especially at night.
Hi, excellent video congratulations, as soon as I have some free time I will change the monitor settings. at the moment the only thing that bothered me about the screen is the small writing that can't be read well, it looks blurry and three-dimensional... and I can't read well. absurd. I hope they fix it with an update because after spending all this money I feel cheated.
Cheers, i just got my LG today :)
Could you please do a video on the Screne Move modes? Like the differences for each mode? I can't find any information on it.
As far as I know it’s minor differences in the frequency of the moves but I find them all annoying for desktop use personally
LG is coming out with a firmware update this month to “maximize the panel brightness during gaming”. Will do you a video on this when that happens and give updated settings if necessary?
Another question. Lets say 150 nits at 60 contrast is 95 brightness. Then 150 nits at 70 contrast is 87 brightness. What would be the difference between these two visually and when it comes to burn in.
Incredible video. Made such a difference setting up my monitor. Didn't want to leave a like though since you were already at 420
Thanks for leaving a comment and feedback, glad it was useful 😀
On my panel, a black stabilizer value of 60 does increase the black level. It's extremely subtle, but definitely non-zero.
It will depend then if the benefit of increasing the near black detail is worth it or not. If black is still very deep and it’s barely noticeable you might find it’s worth it to improve shadow detail 😀
Please do a video on the lg 45gr95qe
So if I'm correct, Gamer 1 for HDR content, and SRGB for SDR content? Thanks for the great vid.
I have 50 B 60 C on the Monitor Gamma 3 What I did though is take the Nvidia sliders and turned gamma down to .81 that really makes stuff pop if stuff is too dark in games I just turn up the gamma in game. Any other settings are just too bright and will mess with you. I did buy a Vesa stand for this monitor I feel the LG stand didn't go low enough so I purchased a stand for 29.00 on Amazon that goes all the way down it's a pole design but was able to lower the monitor about 3 inches more like I wanted. Other wise you are looking up at it and it blinds you.
What settings would you recommend for productivity? Working on web pages, text, spreadsheets, etc? Seems tab by tab the brightness varies, I just want it bright and clear like my G9, nothing to do with gaming at all. I bought it for the screen size, seriously considering returning it.
The brightness literally changes as I scroll a web page.
LG must have changed the brightness behaviour. Look for an option for uniform brightness or something like that. What you’re experiencing is likely the ABL. although I couldn’t really recommend an OLED screen like this for your uses tbh
What does hdr mode really do
the settings you save with hdr off will actually carry over to hdr mode once you turn it on... for me it looks like.
so the greyed out options are available just finicky to use
I don’t think they actually do anything though. They might look like they’re set at different things (although I don’t recall seeing this) but I don’t think in reality they would be. HDR mode is pre defined largely as with many monitors
Your set up looks great but if I enable Gsync I get flickering in menus and load screens in games. I think Freesync Pro is already running and they are trying to run at the same time.
Yours is a lot brighter than mine. Looking at your OSD settings on my LG OLED monitor, it's brighter than the OSD on the monitor itself!
There’s a specific button at the bottom of the remote for that menu
You should record at 1440p or at least upload in 1440p so UA-cam encoded the video in the higher quality VP9 codec, because honestly windows stuff is pretty small and you pair that with UA-cam compression it can be hard to read the small text or icons at times
thanks for your hard work
amazing and informative
is it possible to do best settings for LG 32 OLED Dual Mode 4K UHD 240Hz or FHD 480Hz
because i heard that it needs more color optimization in the settings
Yes as and when we’ve reviewed that model
@@tftcentral great news 🫶
Hi I just bought thise monitor and I can’t understand what is the best gaming mode for example should I use hdr on all the time ? Or should I have it of? and when I have it of why it has hdr effect ?
I just ordered my oled. Has there been any significant updates since the April update?
I bought this monitor 3 months ago and had some interesting bugs. I turned it on one morning and noticed a bunch of horizontal lines going from black to grey running along the top third of the screen. Nothing i could do was fixing it and I was about to get it repaired, that is, until i did pixel and image cleaning 3 times in a row and upon the final one, the lines were gone! i'm not sure if this is a common issue but if it happens to any of you guys, just try to spam image/ pixel cleaning and hope for the best!
Ive noticed this too this monitor honestly sucks for the price i regret buying it everyday
Question: Do you also recommend using Windows 11's HDR Calibration program on top of these settings?
Worth running through that as well I expect yes
Hi how do you update the monitor? i just ordered mine and its coming soon, or u think its updated already out the box? thanks
Opinion on the "vivid" preset? I feel it looks really good and haven't tried what you are doing in this video, I usually watch videos and game mainly, so would I benefit more from doing what you're doing in the video over the vivid preset overall?
Depends if you value accuracy or prefer accentuated and vivid colours. Down to preference really but try both and see what you prefer for your usage
@@tftcentral What would you pick for gaming
Personally I’d rather accuracy or to use one of the other modes but in wide gamut mode. I’ve never been a fan of “vivid” modes on screens
Great video. Im currently using these settings for the lg 45gr95qe. Would it be similar? And by any chance would you good folks be able to run through the best settings for the LG 45gr95qe?
We don’t have any plans to review that screen I’m afraid so won’t be able to do a best settings guide sadly. Some of the general principles should be the same but the settings will be different so may not look right on that screen. Try them by all means but they’re designed for a different model here
@@tftcentralWill do. Im trying out some new colour settings. Thanks anyway!
Appreciate this a whole lot. Im a complete noob so i have to ask. Would you advice using theese settings aswell if the primarly use is for daily work and movies on youtube aswell? And which one of the two would be the best for this use? Gamer1 or sRGB?
Yes these settings are suitable for all uses. Whether you use gamer 1 or sRGB mode really depends on how accurate you want it to be and your preference. SRGB would be more accurate as the content like that would be mastered in that colour space. But some people prefer the more vivid and saturated look of gamer 1, and aren’t necessarily doing anything colour critical etc. try them both and see what you prefer
@@tftcentral Thank you so much, much appreciated!
@@tftcentral Hello again, i actually decided that i wanted this monitor. But now i found out that it have a fan and that it can be heard. I sit in a super quiet room and is very sensitive with any noise, do you know if the fan become silent if you lower than brightness as suggested in the video perhaps? I know thats the case with their 32" 4k ips i was looking at aswell. Thanks a lot!! :-)
The fan is very very quiet on these but I don’t believe it’s speed changes in any situation, at least not in my usage and testing. It just stays the same quiet level all the time
@@tftcentral Thanks a lot really appreciate your replies, maybe i should just try it out and if i find it annoying i can always return it. I actually found out the Asus PG27AQDM 27" Oled have a built in heatsink with makes it fanless and should have some other benefits aswell. Do you plan to make a similar video for this monitor at one point or do you think the settings would pretty much be the same besides brightness? 🙂 Really going back and forth between theese two monitors.
Hi, I'm a bit new to messing with picture settings - why do you lower the brightness in the non-hdr modes?
Edit: is it just to be more comfortable on the eyes while using Excel?
I followed what you said but increased the brightness to 100% for Gamer1 in SDR because pictures and games look better bright, so then the uses will be:
1. General desktop work/browsing: SDR sRGB
2. Non-HDR games, watching videos/looking at pictures: SDR Gamer 1 (100% brightness)
3. HDR games: HDR Gamer1
Is that what you are recommending?
That would be fine, if you want a higher brightness for gaming and movies in SDR mode but want it lower for desktop and office work 😀
Thanks man, I wouldn't have been confident touching gamma or RGB levels before your video.@@tftcentral
Is there any middleware out there allow you to change OSD profile on the fly depending on the content. I dont see myself working on Lightroom and switching everytime from one mode to another while I go back to my gaming mode.
Can you through windows and not via OSD change the profile and make it pop very quickly ?
Not that I’ve seen but their provided software can make it pretty quick to switch between modes if you need
Thank you guys, any chances of getting an updater settings video for the 2024 27GS Modell?
Its not a model we’ve reviewed I’m afraid
@@tftcentral oh that’s a bummer, thanks for answering! Hard to find any good advice for the newer Modell, tried some of your settings and looks quite good but would love to see some in depth settings video for that Modell since from my understanding has a newer slightly better panel.
I just purchased this monitor yesterday . Any tips for PS5 settings ? Thank you
I bought the 27GR95QE-b
@cjcwoot8120 those featured in the video are equally valid for PS5 😀
Question, just out of curiosity: Why did u turn screen move off? Isn't this supposed to shift the screen occasionally just 1-2 pixels around, which u wouldn't notice anyways? Seems to be useful thing to prevent potential burn-in...
It’s useful for burn in prevention potentially but it’s noticeable during desktop use I find
hello
how to update the screen?
thank you 😊
So if I understood this video correctly, run "SRGB mode" for regular content day to day .. when gaming in HDR, enable HDR via Windows and then in the game and switch to "Game Mode 1"?
That would work fine yes
@@tftcentral thank you for the nice video, so what about when we are gaming with game who does not support HDR, we run it in SRGB or SDR? Cheers
Disable HDR mode in windows and run in SDR mode. You can choose between running sRGB or wide gamut if you prefer the more saturated and vivid colour appearance
Man, I never thought replacing a monitor would be as challenging as it has been. I’m coming off an LG Ultragear 27L850-B that was purchased 2 years ago.
I wanted something much better even though I found no fault with that monitor.
First Picked up the Alienware AW3821DW. It’s a massive screen and I loved every bit of the size. However, it wasn’t as good as my $300 LG that I was giving up. Picture quality when watching UA-cam wasn’t as crisp.
I then picked up the LG Ultragear 27GR95QE and was instantly displeased. The size for one was an instant let down given that I would be giving up a 38” wide monitor. That aside, the screen brightness was extremely dull. I knew this would be a thing, but boy, it’s hard to keep a $1k monitor and have to strain to see the image even in a dark room. That’s being returned today (06/23)
Given the 38” Alienware ruined 27” monitors for me, I’m now awaiting shipment of the Alienware AW3423DWF.
34” is still wide enough and based on the various reviews (even though the other 2 monitors I purchased were also based on countless reviews), this Alienware AW3423DWF seems to be most people’s cream of the crop.
We shall see come tomorrow.
If there’s no difference between that and the Alienware Alienware AW3821DW, I will just keep the 38” as “Size DOES matter 😅”.
Any idea why I can't run 10 bit in native 1440p on xbox series x? I have the service remote and under debug the monitor is displaying 8 bit. This only happens in native 1440p. When i use the 4k mode which just downscales back to 1440p, I have no issue running RGB 444 4k 120hz 10 bit in RGB full range but can only get 8 bit in native 1440p. When picking native 1440p It's using hdmi 2.0 but i checked the bandwidth and its only at 15gbps so it should be fine to do 10 bit on the 2.0 standard
On SRGB Mode with Gamer1, would you rather set the Blue to 48 for the best white Color, or go to the Color-Temp Settings and use the „Manual C1“ Mode?
Gamer 1 mode and sRGB mode are separate. But the manual modes are just additional preset modes. It’s easier to get to the target white point just using the custom mode and the RGB values provided. Might vary a little by unit sample but that worked nicely to correct the cool default setup. Note the blue channel is 44 in Gamer 1 and 48 in sRGB mode
@@tftcentral sorry i mean SDR Mode.
SDR with Gamer one. Should i usw the Blue at 44 or The C1 Mode for the best white?
Custom mode, blue at 44 :)
@@tftcentral Thank you very much!
Please help - How to maximize best settings for brightness with monitor when connected to PS5?
I need help with this also
well I can help u guys :) switch hdr off ( not all games work well with hdr on)
secondly - rgb range - set it to limited - huge difference
Thank me later
Is this the same for the XBOX Series X too? @@user-fl2ym8tm1m
Xbox Series X user - is it best to use the SDR or HDR settings? I play FPS - specifically Cod/Warzone. My LG 27GR95QE-B arrives tomorrow, hope I'm not underwhelmed :) Cheers.
Best to set up both modes and the screen will switch between them depending on which input mode it detects from the console. I’d suggest also running the Xbox HDR calibration tool after you’ve adjusted the monitor. Personally I don’t like to use the “auto HDR” mode on the console but if you do, that will prob mean the screen ends up running in HDR most of the time anyway
hi usb back is not working what can i must to do please ?
Something people should know about this model: It's not 10 bit, it's 8 bit + FRC, so it basically emulates 10 bit with some trickery. This is probably one of the biggest spec mis directions that puts this panel behind others, because even other WOLED panels released around the same time are the full 10 bit without FRC. So even though everyone thinks all the other WOLED panels released around the same time are the same panel, they're actually not the same panel, LG cheaped out but quietly pretended like they didn't. Essentially, it uses dithering to fake 10 bit. Anyone susceptible to flickering could have an issue, and dithering itself could cause issues with gradients. This also messes with response times, which is likely why TFTcentral saw some issues on their UFO test. While the response time is fast, it uses up that response time to apply the FRC, which would explain why it lagged behind on the UFO test. Essentially, you're not getting a true stop and hold on the pixels, you're getting that FRC flicker that keeps it from a steady stop and hold, which can cause motion smearing.
This is also probably some of the source of brightness issues with the monitor, since the dithering by FRC requires constant pixel brightness and color changes to emulate 10 bit, changes that happen faster than the refresh rate, as the pixels need to dither by transitioning X number of times between 240hz refreshes, which overall averages out to a dimmer brightness due to the color changes needed to do FRC dithering. This is also clearly why it has a 12 bit option, as it is not slated to support Dolbyvision HDR, which is a 12 bit format. So it has a 12 bit option because it's 8 bit + 4 bit from FRC. So in essence all the 12 bit option is telling you is that because the OLED is fast enough, it can just do more FRC dithering to emulate those extra bits. If it was a true 10 bit display, it wouldn't even have a 12 bit option.
In some ways 8 bits + FRC can be meaningless, especially for SDR. But its biggest impact would be on darker gradients, which could lead to clipping and mosquito noise. It would also exasperate VRR flicker. And from a technical standpoint, it means that it's not actually generating the real color gamut, it's just faking it. This is also probably why it does soo poorly compared to other OLED's on the color gamut tests, because the physical testing equipment gets faked out (but not completely) by the FRC dithering, which creates some inconsistencies that shouldn't exist on an OLED.
Even at $599, all other issues aside like brightness, the biggest problem with this panel is it's 8 bit + FRC. That immediately puts it well below other panels. That makes it really a no go in this era, and makes it more like trying to sell a 2015 monitor in 2024. FRC is simply something you don't want on a new monitor in this day and age, and certainly not on an OLED, especially when every other OLED out there is native 10 bit. LG really pulled a stealth bait and switch on this one, by making people think this is a true 10 bit panel. All that FRC on pixels that are notoriously affected by changes (i.e. burn in), really can't be good on an OLED, because it causes the pixels to do even more work, 10 times the work even, as they're forced to change much more often than even the refresh rate itself. So this model could basically be called the TN panel of OLED's.
So it seems what LG did was give all the other brands the real 10 bit panel, and slipped in their inferior 8 bit + FRC panel under their brand, and made everyone think they're the same panel, and charging the same prices as everyone else, allowing them to sell an inferior panel for higher prices equal to the superior panels. FRC doesn't just make the 8 bit panel inferior, it also means it need more overhead in order to emulate those colors, which is probably why despite its brightness limitations, it uses a fan, which is not meant to cool the panel, but rather, the board parts, and that cooling is probably largely required because all the processing overhead required for FRC.
What this all means is that for those who own the monitor already, setting it to 12 bits will at least be better than setting it to 10 bits, because you'll get a smoother FRC experience that can better iron out the issues of 8 bits + 2 bits FRC.
When or will you have settings available for LG27GS95QE? I can't even find an icc profile online for it yet
No plans at the moment to review that model I’m afraid
Best real settings: use sRGB mode for SDR, and make sure windows color management > advanced > device profile is set to sRGB 2.1 profile, and use windows color calibration to set the gamma with Lagom LCD site and set that ICC profile as default in color management > devices. Gamer 1 for HDR. Don't need to fiddle with any other settings, anything else isn't color accurate or gamma accurate. You need the windows 11 HDR calibration tool to make a color management profile for HDR, which you have to add after creating, to the color management > devices, then set the one under the "advanced" list to default after enabling HDR. You use winkey+alt+b to toggled HDR on and off. After that everything is perfectly calibrated for SDR and HDR and you only need to use the hotkey to enable or disable HDR, and it will automatically switch between the color management profiles for SDR and HDR. If you don't follow these steps, your display simply isn't going to be at its best out of the box. Not setting the sRGB 2.1 profile to default under the color management advanced tab for example, will not give you proper sRGB.
My brother in christ please make a video guide
This monitor does have a confirmed hidden menu. Turn off your monitor. Once off. Push the joystick to the left 3 times and one time to the right, Then .Push in the center to turn the monitor on service menu. Once The main menu comes out. Go to settings ..and the hidden menu will pop up on the left side of your screen. Once there. You need to turn on HCDP 2.2 on in order to enjoy netflix in full 4k with hdr. Otherwise it wont work. We need all the help we can get together. You can help us too on this matter pal !!! Please help with the HCDP 2.2 access in the hidding menu.
According to the review of Optimum Tech, setting the color temp to "manual C1" gives you the whitepoint that you seek and makes that you don't have to mess with RGB sliders.
What’s wrong with making a minor change to the RGB values as suggested? Hardly difficult. I don’t know what device they used to measure white point or whether it’s accurate but I trust our spectrophotometer and the settings we’ve suggested here :)
Do you have to change settings in SDR and then change to HDR "Game Mode 1"? to get the effect? becuase i feel like my hdr colors are a little bit too grey. What settings do you use in HDR mode? And do you turn off HDR in Windows 11?
Only enable HDR mode when you’re viewing actual HDR content. Otherwise leave it disabled and use the SDR mode settings on the monitor
@@tftcentral I have the monitor and I'm not so happy with it. It's a little not good to have hadr disable and renable every time i need for a game. It will be better an auto transition. Also the gsync doen't work so good as the other samsung that i have. Here the hz of the monitor displayed with the fps counter aren't exactly as the fps in game....some times peaks double and then goes down... al random. Everything is updateted...
If you leave Brightness at 100, don't turn Black Stabilizer up to 60. The highest you can go is 55 if you want true black. Not sure if this is just a panel deviation on my end, but you can test it yourself in a dark room - switch between 55 and 60 on a black image , it's not very noticeable but the blacks brighten up a tiny bit. You want the LEDs to stay off!
This must vary by panel or perhaps linked to other settings. On my sample there was no visible black difference all the way up to 60 black stabiliser, but an obvious jump to dark grey at 65. But that’s why we suggested checking yourself and ideally using the linked shadow detail tests in the description 😀
@@tftcentral On LG's LCDs if you're using the correct Full Range RGB signal then '50' is the correct neutral point and raising it higher will usually increase the black point. Might be different on their OLEDs, or the increase is so slight it's more difficult or impossible to spot (and potentially measure) and therefore of no consequence if there's only a slight increase to 'Black Stabilizer'. The brightness setting could potentially have an effect, even if that's just making the slightly raised black depth easier to spot. If you made your observations at your preferred brightness and Aesop at full brightness, that could explain the difference perhaps?
I've just re-tested it including at different brightness settings. From a normal viewing position, and even in a dark room, there was no perceivable difference between Black Stabilizer 50, 55 and 60 that I could see - including at 100% brightness. The black depth was still below the measurement limits of even our most capable black measurement device ( 60 that makes the most noticeable improvement to near black shadow detail, and assuming other panels are the same, i still think that's likely to be preferable to many. But as said, def one to test yourself and hone in on the best setting for your panel, eyes, lighting, preference etc
@@tftcentral Excellent! Good to know and useful reference for everyone. 👍
Hey, why at my oled lg is "smart energy saving" grey and i cant turn it off or on ?
Had the same Problem, just dont use your pc/console when you want to change it. Only turn on your Monitor and it will be available to change.
I found that CPC enable set off and LEA refreash enable set to OFF in service menu is crucial settins for this monitor. Can you make another video about these settings and hopefully LG will include these settings in menu for next firmware. Thanks!
What’s the background to changing those settings please and what benefits do they offer?
Hi, they offer uniform and brighter picture.
CPC (Convex Power Control) which is also found on various LG OLED TVs. This causes the screen to dim towards the edges, mainly near the corners, to reduce power consumption at the expense of uniformity.
LEA Refresh Enable (ON/OFF, Default: ON) Turning it off causes static bright sections of the scene to be slightly brighter, while dark areas or areas in motion do not change in brightness. It seems to act like a faster, though much less agressive ASBL.
@alabama1974 interesting. Thanks for the info. I’ve got a service remote but sadly don’t have access to the screen any more to try these out. Will try and remember for as and when we test the new LG OLEDs later in the year!
If only Lg include these options in menu, so we could save them. Asus PG27AQDM can turn off CPC by disabling screen saver in menu.
I prefer gamer 1 myself for hdr and went with that. Come to find out Vincent in hdtvtest says it is far more accurate than gamer 2 as well. You can always switch back and forth obviously and go with whichever you prefer.
I thought both gamer 1 and gamer 2 were far too blue on my unit and dialed the blues back via nvidia control panel. Supposedly, however, the d65 white point of gamer 1 was very accurate per Vincent. Will have another look see tonite.
No major difference in our testing between HDR Gamer 1 and 2 other than slightly brighter mid grey in 2 which we expect some people will prob prefer. White point and colour accuracy basically the same in both. You’d probably be better turning blue channel down a bit on the monitor as per this video guide than adjusting at the graphics card level as it will help maintain tonal values and avoid any banding issues. Our review also linked in the description for testing of thr HDR modes
@@tftcentral I didn’t think you could adjust color settings in hdr on the monitor. Will give it another look. Thanks.
No you can’t in HDR mode, I was talking about SDR modes :)
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If i use this monitor with HDR what should i set for auto hdr in windows 11 ? And what peak brightness should i set in the HDR calibration app
Only run HDR in windows when viewing HDR content, but you can set desktop brightness slider to whatever is comfortable. It won’t impact actual HDR mode performance anyway.
@@tftcentral thank your for your answer! another question is , windows tells me this monitor has only 600 nits but LG says it has 1000 should i set it to 1000 then or not?
See our review for actual HDR measurements. It doesn’t get anywhere near 1000 nits. I’d set it relative to what’s actually achieved tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/lg-27gr95qe-oled
I have this monitor and play on a ps5 but it’s very choppy on 60hz games
If the wide gama is on Gamer Mode 1, and HDR is also on GamerMode 1, do I need to adjust all the settings over and over again once i toggle HDR ON (Windows 11)?
HDR version does not use the ICC of the wide gama mode right?
No, the settings save independently for HDR and SDR modes so you only have to set them one for each.
lg is releasing a firmware to make the monitor brighter in april I hope we also get this update for the 45'' 240hz oled model as well
Just updated mine, process took a long time about 1,5 hours
Yeah stupidly long!
@@tftcentral did the update but I can't see a difference
There isn’t any real difference sadly. Only real change is that gamer 2 HDR mode has now been changed to be a lot cooler, helping to increase the peak brightness but at the cost of a cool and blue image which is less accurate. No change to gamer 1 mode which is the more accurate
What nvidia control panel desktop
Color settings do you recommend?
Just default
I get This Monitor next week and i only use it for Gaming. Should i set it to Gamer1 or sRGB Mode in your opinion?
Gamer 1 where you will get the wider gamut coverage needed for HDR titles, and for more vivid colours generally even in SDR gaming
@@tftcentral so Gamer1 for SDR Gaming?
It depends if the game is really mastered in SDR gamut (sRGB) and you want accuracy, then the sRGB preset would be the best option. But I expect the more vivid colours from Gamer 1 would prob be preferable for many and look better. Try both though and see what you prefer. Some of the games, while not supporting HDR, may also be mastered for wider gamut colour space too
What should I have my black level set to? Low or high? Low has darker blacks which I prefer but I lose a lot of detail in the brights which really bugs me
That should only be changed for HDMI inputs with a limited range signal. Not applicable for Pc. You should leave it at default otherwise you’re clipping blacks and whites (as you see when blacks get raised) which you don’t want!
@@tftcentral Thanks so much for the info and responding so quickly!
@@tftcentral I’m using an HDMI 2.1 cable and I’m assuming 2.1 doesn’t have a limited range signal right? Nvidia control panel settings are set to 0-255, full, 12 bit, etc
Edit: Oh you said it’s not applicable! Sorry! Thanks!
Yeah it’s the input device that would be limited range, like a blu ray player or tv box. Not applicable for a pc as long as you have it set up correctly (which you do)
@@tftcentral Thanks so much!
in what mode, black level is active?
Can you tell me what the ghosting is like at 60hz? Trying to find out as you can't change overdrive settings can you?
There’s no overdrive control, no. Much more motion blur at 60Hz than 240Hz due to the lower refresh rate and a bit of visible overshoot too (pale halos). See our written review for more discussion on it
What settings do you recommend for daily work and while gaming?
Those in this video
But there are a couple of profiles.. Which one is like more gaming oriented and which one like for work? Thank you!!@@tftcentral
Hi, I am not very good with technology, I purchased the oled monitor yesterday and I only play ps5 on it, I am struggling to figure out how to change it from 60hz to 120hz? There is no option for me to change it on the monitor? Can someone please help?
You don’t need to change anything on the monitor, you’d need to configure that on the console. You should be able to set it to 1440p resolution and 120Hz there
How come when I go into Picture adjust I can’t select contrast, gamma, color temp or RGB??? Only Brightness and Sharpness are available for me to adjust. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also, I mostly play COD Warzone so would this be the best settings for that as well?
Having the same issue, I can not find the option to change it from 60hz to anything higher either. I only play ps5 so don’t have a computer to change the settings.
@@6429jarrod your ps5 might be set in 4k, if not then it will show 120hz when u play a game that allows it to
I realized I just needed to disconnected from the PS5. That way I was able to adjust the settings for SDR and then reconnect it to adjust the HDR settings
Like it’s not letting me use the picture adjust
Something I've noticed is everyone labels this monitor as 10 bit but microcenter labels it as 8 bit + FRC. Would that matter or create a different then playing at 8 bit vs 10 bit?
No, it would be basically indistinguishable. Although I believe this is a native 10-bit panel anyway, they probably have it labelled wrongly
I would really love to go for the ASUS OLED monitor, with its heatsink and higher brightness. However the lack of HDMI 2.1 ( which is needed for VRR) for PS5 is a killer. However the LG my worry is that it is not going to be bright enough..
The Asus supports VRR from PS5 too, even though it’s only HDMI 2.0 connections 😀
I just got this monitor today and I was a little worried about the brightness too but it's fine and I'm happy with it.
@@almighty151986 that is really comforting to hear. As the Asus OLED is around 360 USD$ more expensive in my country. To have that difference is absurd and makes me lean toward the LG.
@@almighty151986 "fine" 🤣
Can I use these settings for the non oled version of this monitor? Thanks 🙏
No I’m afraid not
wont let me choose 10 bt for colors what to do
@TFTCentral nice Video! i got this monitor just 4 weeks ago, i use only PS5. What do you reccomend to use for best performance on Warzone? I also can't see good in dark area, because the dark area still remain dark also if i put 100 Black Stabilizer. I play with HDR off, and VRR off. Last thing to ask you: I notice a huge difference in one option that seems important, but nobody talked about it, this option is the "BLACK LEVEL", you can choose to put it high or low, what is the default one? and which one is better to use? High or Low?
Please reply to my answers, thanks a lot.
where you see blacklevel?
@@PhilippeCJR in the settings, check close the colours settings. There is High Balck and low black. Anyway After 2 moths i understood how ti set the monitor properly. Very good monitor
@@gianloseto87 i see it but it is grayed out/not available
@@PhilippeCJR it's available Just on Game Mode 1 and Game Mode 2. Just on SDR
@@PhilippeCJR and if you put black level low, and After that you go on HDR It will work also in HDR
Hello again, do you plan to make an update of this after the firmware update release?
No I’m afraid not
@@tftcentral Do you think it will only be the brightness that i might need to adjust after the update? Asking as im waiting for delivery of this screen. :-)
You might not even need to alter that as I think it might only be the HDR tone mapping and peak brightness in HDR mode that’s being tweaked. I’m going to try and confirm and will pin a comment here if there’s any change. For brightness setting I would just go with whatever you find comfortable anyway :)
@@tftcentral You are the goat, thanks for the update! Really appreciate it!
I read it has auto input switch, how does it work? let's say you have ps5 and pc connected to it. How do you switch between them, if the pc is on, and you turn the console on, will it auto switch to console?
yes, if for example you are using a pc and plug in your ps5 with auto switch on, the display will automatically switch to see the ps5
I’m using a LG27-850b I don’t have the option for 10 bpc. I’m using a rtx 4080. I’m using a HDMI 2.1. Do I need a display port for this?
I use dislpay port and There is 10 and 12 bit , your 2.1 doesn’t work bcs the 4080 doesn’t support 2.1 ( i have the same card )
What "input compatibility version" shall i use? and what does it do?
What are the options in that section?
@@tftcentral 1.4 (DSC)
1.4 and 1.2
I’ve found that Color Temp on C1 has given me a white point close to 6500k. Is the custom RGB settings you mentioned better for reaching 6500k?
Not necessary if the white point is already very close with that setting 😀
@@tftcentral appreciate the quick response
what is the best settings for cs2 ?
Hey! When I press the oled care button(little screen icon) it says function not available now
No idea what would be causing that. Try resetting the screen perhaps
I just bought an open box monitor. But it didn’t come with a remote. Does anyone Know what remote replacement I can use if any ?
You may have to return it or ask for the remote. The remote is a must for changing OSD Settings.
I also bought an open box and had to call LG they were able to give me a part number and you have to order it straight from them. Price is 59.99 and I can confirm it works.
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Mate, if you read this please reply, Is it worth getting the monitor if primary usecase is coding and ocasional media consumption. This is the only reasonable option in my country and I really really want to try out an oled moitor.
It’s hard to recommend an OLED for those kind of uses to be honest due to burn in risk and the pixel layout/text problems. If there’s not many options available and you are keen to try one out is there somewhere you can buy from that will support a return if you don’t like it?
@@tftcentral Return policy is horrendous in my country. And I am not really bothered about burn in as I will be using the monitor for max 6-8 months. Is the text clarity that bad? I will be watching the screen from a reasonable distance. I am leaning towards oled because it has zero backlight bleed and thus will provide minimal eye strain compared to an ips. I will be using dark mode in my code editor. Am I wrong in my assertion?
Thanks for your detailed reply man. Really appreciate it.
It’s not great for text clarity but I can’t really offer much more advice than that to be honest. Maybe you’d be ok, but ideally you’d want to use one before committing
Most my settings like black equalizer and power saving is greyed out? Also g sync on or off for less input delay?
You must be in a strange mode or have HDR on all the time or something? GSync shouldn’t impact lag at all
@@tftcentral I'm in gamer 2, so no strange mode. I have HDR enabled in windows, should I not have it enabled? How would I use HDR if I don't enable it in windows?
Only enable it when you want to use HDR content. Otherwise just run in normal mode. Which will then give you access to the full settings :)
Hey boss I bought this exact oled open box excellent from Best Buy for $611 with tax. The monitor is great is fantastic for gaming but for some reason I can’t get the remote to connect to the monitor. I think maybe that’s why it was returned. I have an lg nano cell tv so my magic remote works but I can’t get oled care to pop up with my magic remote. Someone said I had to use the freaking remote that came with the monitor but it won’t work! You think I should return it or keep it?! It’s super expensive and I don’t want burn in!
I’d try a new battery perhaps for the remote or maybe contact Lg and they will hopefully send you a new one
Yesssir boss I did get a new battery and it did fix it! I’ve heard the batteries that come with them are very low or flat out don’t even work!
Hi ! I see that you answer to all comments even after 6 month after uploading the video :) I just have one question, i'm planning to buy a new PC and this screen particularly, and just wanted to know which cable should I use : HDMI or Displayport, and why ? I will buy a Sapphire NITRO+ 7900XTX, want to have the maximum capability of this screen and maybe use VRR.
Thanks !
Sorry I am no longer answering questions on old videos. Just kidding 🤣 you could use either connection, both will support the native 1440p at 240Hz with VRR etc. personally I find it easier to use displayport, as there’s a suitable cable included in the box, and that leaves the HDMI inputs free for external devices, games consoles etc if needed
@@tftcentral Thanks for your answer 😁 Have you experienced fringing with the subpixel or screen flickering on this monitor ? I find this screen incredible, even if it should be glossy but not matte, but there are so many problems with the new OLED screens that I prefer to ask before buying.
@Victor_LG text fringing is quite noticeable on WOLED panels due to the sub pixel structure for office work but will be hard to notice in gaming and dynamic content. No issues with screen flickering although in some darker content with VRR on, OLED panels can show some flickering. Resolved easily by disabling VRR if it’s a problem
@@tftcentral Is there some solutions to solve text fringing ? Maybe step back from the screen, turn backgrounds black ? Or maybe future solution implemented directly in Windows like ClearType ?
@Victor_LG it’s harder to see from a more distant viewing position certainly. Maybe MS will address non standard layouts in a future clear type dev, but not heard anything official yet
when i go into the menu i cant adjust anything under picture adjust with the exception of brightness and contrast - any idea why?
Perhaps related to the preset mode you’re running in? Or have you got HDR enabled all the time?
I am getting the same thing too. I want to adjust further settings, but it's blocked out.
I just got this monitor but the refresh rate is stuck on 144 hz. Can somebody help me try to adjust that? I've tried looking through my windows 11 settings and NVidia control panel settings. The settings won't allow me to go beyond 144 hz. My drivers are up to date, i've done several restarts, and I know it's not a cable issue. Can anyone help?
dont use the hdmi cable it came with. use the display port cable and you should see 240hz