State investigating amid reports cruise ship sailed too close to Kauai’s Na Pali Coast
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- Опубліковано 30 кві 2024
- The state Land Department is investigating after Kauai advocates say a cruise ship got too close to shore at the Na Pali Coast.
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Captain has no clue how shallow it’s out there, and the pristine reef put at risk. We have dove out there and know how precious that coast line is.
They know, they have tons of tech.
They know how shallow it is out there -Someone who drives ships
They absolutely know, the Edge is one of the most advanced ships on the water right now. Mistakes do happen though.
See the sand and mud it kicked up in the aerial photo? It probably did significant damage to the ocean floor, the reef, and any sea life in the area. They probably caused significant environmental damage. We just saw how much a boat owner got fined for their boat damaging the reef and by the looks of it the damage from this will likely be much larger. Cruise ships need to be banned from approaching our shores this close except in designated docking channels.
If enuff fines are in place maybe these corporate assholes will become a thing of the past. Fines large enuff to end these corporate criminals. Hawai'i does not invite tourists. Tourists, many of them are uninvited slobs. Hawai'i allows them in so many of the locals have no say. Government needs to be overthrown.
Good less money for your island then 😂
@@trustoryj6476we don't want your pilau money. A ship has very little to no impact on our economy. They spend their money on the ship and they spend it on non native entities. Get real! So much misinformation about my people. #NoHawaiiansNoHawaii
And all they have to do is to pay a $$$ fine, meanwhile, the reef is screwed already
@@lesliepropheter5040 not only but look at the distress and hurt all over the place....on mainland with planned detonations to break free the bridge in Baltimore from the shipping vessel.....another blowing apart of the fragile ecosystem in that lake..... it never ends all over. These are criminals with a nefarious thought process and no intelligence or common sense... no matter,whether my beautiful home on Maui and Big Island or mainland anywhere u s freakin a.
Rivers, lakes, brackish wattas all connect to our precious oceans kai
I saw it and it looked very strange we have never seen a boat like that in these areas
Ship idiot
with gps and computer navigation and the high cost of the ship itself one would think the owning company would have every foot of its course pre-planned and pre-approved by both government and insurance people. a cruise trip should be the blandest most boring path there is 🙂
[and one would think the costa concordia would have really made that a rule for everyone else]
The ship is 1000’ long, it looks at least 3-4000’ off shore. The forced perspective skews people’s perspectives. I am sure the ships data recorder and security video footage will help investigators tell definitely.
Even when they are much further out it feels very intrusive if you are camping there.
People that don’t live in Hawaii don’t care. It doesn’t affect them. Sad thing is, it destroyed the wildlife when getting that close to the reef. Fine the company for reef preservation
Who said wildlife was destroyed? They didn't say that. Maybe you were there swimming or something? Or making things up? Might as well lie I guess to get the story more traction coz it's a non-story. Unless you hate haoles I guess.
@@JessicaZane4realz you must know nothing about boating. People dive in those waters. Someone could have been run over. Anything in the boats path is gone. Hawaii has a lot of turtles and monk seals in the water.
I care big time.
@p3ngi3 Apparently you know nothing, Judging by your logic, there would be no boats anywhere near the islands because monk seals and turtles are even thousands of miles offshore around hawaiian waters, Yet shipping is everywhere.
We care!❤
As a Kanaka Maoli. So disrespectful 🤨
Eō! Hewa loa.
Absolutely disrespectful! We need a real leader in Hawaii!!!!
The captain of the ship made that bad decision and got a call from the Coast Guard telling he was too close. Blame the cruise line and the idiot captain. Doesn’t have anything to do with leadership in Hawaiʻi. Stop being a TROLL.
@@happylivinginparadise9151 yes it does have to do WITH LEADERSHIP. These "leaders" make this happen. Anything to do with tourists has every damn thing to do with "leadership". If "officials" sat down and truly listened and cared for the island and the TRUE Hawaiian born and raised locals maybe things would be different. Tourism gets in the way of culture. Too up close and freakin personal.
We need Kim Jung Un
@@river4462 of course tourism is a blight on our ʻāina, our culture, our traditions, our people. We, including us, didn’t learn a damn thing from the COVID lock down nor did we do anything different to change our dependency on tourism. Believe me, I understand the anger and the passion of wanting our Hawaiʻi and our poe kanaka āpau to come home. Our people are trying to survive and sadly these cruise ships bring in the money to keep the jobs and the economy going. It’s simpler to rant and rave but until an idea is born that can make the islandʻs economy be based in a more healthful industry then we are stuck with tourism. I don’t have the answer to change the economy. This problem is rooted back to the overthrow when even our Aliʻi made the wrong decisions and allowed the haole to get an influential foot in the door and then we were overthrown. Had we had the opportunity to be like NZ or Tonga, etc and have restrictions on who can own land, do you think we would be in this situation? I doubt it. I truly believe reparations for kanaka maoli is long overdue but politics are a friggin’ mess and ALL politicians are forced to play political games of give and take. The cruise ship captain is ignorant, did wrong and ignored the rules. It is being investigated, hopefully they can levy a big fine. The rules are there. Leadership cannot get rid of tourism, so the cruise contracts will continue. With the horror of the Maui fires and ALL the economic problems and issues (not even measuring the human pain in to it) that resulted from it, our state budget is already faltering and we have years of recovery ahead of us. Give me a feasible solution because I desperately want to hear what can save Hawaiʻi.
@@happylivinginparadise9151you said it all and I agree 100%
That's BS!! They should have a huge fine for that. Imagine if they wrecked over there!! They got rid of the ferry boats that actually helped the locals get from island to island easier. So make it make sense.
we need to get rid of more fairies
Do you mean "ferries"? Or actual little winged creatures??
@@PatrickWagz yup not Tinkerbell.🤦♂️
The ship is clearly more than the required 3,000 feet from the coast.
Coast guard stepped in to have the boat move. How you gonna explain that. You know anything about maritime laws?
These floating favelas are an eye sore. Not to mention a class of vistor with tight wallets. They don't generate any hotel tax venue and they eat most their meals aboard ship.
Not only the people on board barely get off the ship and then they have to get right back on to invaid another island. So how can there be that much spending to help the economy?
They pay hundreds of dollars in port taxes to the state for each passenger on board and support local tour operators and local jobs.
So rude
lol
Yup they literally just did the same coming into Hilo. Super close & high speed.
Yup they was in 43 feet of water
WAY to closes......keep away! FOOLS
The Captain of the ship said he got a call from the navy saying that he was in too close, and also said that celebrity cruises never informed him he was not allowed to be in further in than about 1km.
That’s BS
From what i have learned, only 1 cruise ship is allowed to circumnavigate around the islands and that is one specific cruise of Norwegian. There are strict guidelines to the tour and even to its employees as being Hawai'ian decent for an authentic and repectible experience. For reasons mentioned in the story, this is why there is only one contract allowed.
The Norwegian American Pride is the only US registered ocean going cruise ship that complies with the Jones Act so it does not need to stop in a foreign country on each cruise. There are multiple ships around the islands during the popular cruise season only limited by the port space in the islands.
These people are so arrogant and disrespectful
Cruise ships have no respect in Hilo too!
The cruise ship that goes to Hilo nearly runs over the Ika shibi fisherman every time he goes by the lava flow on the puna side. They've been doing it since the 80s !They are dangerous, and they need to be pushed directly to the open sea. No closer than 5 miles from land ! Unless entering or exiting
Doesn't matter if cruise liner was on 7/12/14 day cruise,
Na Pali Coast is precious territory, and such a breach is unacceptable. Shame on this ship Captain/Celebrity Cruise line!!
Scary even more is knowing the ineptitude ignorance and just plain ineffectiveness is our corporate america out there😖😢they... whether in the sky on land or sea are one scary bunch of fu****s. No excuse. Just a sign of the times in this deplorable society of just who is running these corporate wastelands.
When the giant screw is about as deep as the top of your boat is tall…..
Feeeeeeeelings! Aside from that, it's wreckless to sail that close to the shoreline. A grounding there would be a catastrophe and a logistics nightmare for rescue.
Shows incompetency of the captain and his crew, the cruise line should be given a substantial fine.
Wow! New ship activity ... Swim at Kalalau! And their Ad would show ... "we nearly park the ship at shore just for your safety & convenience!" ... and this tour would be next for all the ships! Well maybe DLNR do something??? As not involving more land grabs ... or is it???
Depth of water here is about 55-60ft, the propeller on this ship is maybe 20-35 feet deep.
They worry too much😅
No This ship has Azipods that hold the props are about 10ft (depending on ship) , to take port key west as an example when docked there is only 34 ft between the ship and the bay floor, on this video there is about 60-65ft well within safety, when my ship visits my homeport we have about 29ft at low tide and 25 at high tide from the bay floor.
@@reece3352 ty for clarifying
Non locals doing tours in hawaii
Absolutely wrong and no excuse.
😂
No joke.
I have pics from kokee if you need them. You could hear the party through the fog I sat on the lookout at took pics they even went in the water. And never had a huge water slide from top of ship to the ocean.
Way too close.
That is irresponsibly close to shore . Whether it’s law or not . Had anything gone wrong …….
This is an absolute DISGRACE!!!! Celebrity cruises needs to be heavily fined. The Na Pali Coast is a sacred place and they have NO BUSINESS BEING ANYWHERE NEAR THAT CLOSE!
NO NO NO NO NO.
Fine fine fine !!!!
Big one Hawaii needs the money
Ban the cruise lines. Screw that.
Oh my god! The sand was stirred up
Investors and billionaires itching to start tearing down the rest of Hawaii…
I'm not a fan of more and more and more regulations, BUT, this is why there is a need for them. Why and how did they think it's ok to take a giant cruise ship right up to the shoreline? They're driven by greed and looking for opportunities without regard for anything or anyone. This behavior should be met with equally outrageous fines and their credentials should be marked and potentially revoked.
The ship was close offshore in Kapaa too outside from the Kapaa pool . No respect , Fine um Danno, Steve Megarett
Not only military bombing practices, now CruiseShip Action for the tourist, mile as well give the tourist a view of Barking Sands and show their activities
But they want to throw the kids in jail that dumped a few pounds of trash in ocean.. What if the ship lost power. Costa Concordia all over again?
It’s a safety and environmental risk.
Yes the cruise ship is way too close and for sure they have damaged the corals and other valuable things underneath the ship. Cruise ships should NOT be allowed within a specific distance from the island to protect the environment
Of course you have not heard back. Celebrity must know they broke The Rules by being so close to the shore.
People, the Captain didn’t know, it was human error. Come on, do you want his head on a stick?
Looks fine to me
Celebrity cruises ? That says it all hawaii we cater to the rich nevwrmind the eco system or people reoccurring theme
Capt. Francesco Schettino was at the helm i presume.
End tourism in Hawaii.
The streamers from the ship to shore did not break. 😅
Poor seamanship.
Ignorant outta state people always disrespecting the Aina for years! Respect our Hawaiian culture, lands and people! We are not like the other 49 states on the mainland.
Make that 48 states, we in Alaska have to face the same problem
Amid
Typical here nobody follows laws in Hawaii I don’t get it? This is the USA in case anyone is confused.
Not u s a to many kanaka.... it may be the u s but u s took over illegally.
Don't worry everyone, Kawakami got a fat envelope of cash for letting the boat cruise Napali, we can relax now he can buy another condo in Utah.
So the boat got close to land. They’re equipped with fathometers that tells the navigator how deep the water is. And the water looked calm so the captain could easily maneuver out of danger if he needed to. Too much adieu about nothing.
What you’re not comprehending is the wild life close to the reef. The live coral now will die because it’s covered in sand kicked up. The fish, seals, turtles, probably dead now. Think before you reply…
@@p3ngi3 1. there is roughly 60-65ft between the ship and the Ocean Floor here 2. There was no sand being kicked up in these photos the light spots in the water your seeing is air bubbles caused by the cavitations by the bow thrusters and azipods 3. the ship was 0.9 nautical miles / 1 mile / 1,6 kilometres east of the reef, 4. Ships can safely operate at depths as close as 30 to 40 feet between the ship and sea bed below. 5. the fish, seals and turtles are just fine. (I'd like to point out most people who work on these ships love the sea, and the wildlife within it and we do not put that in danger.)
@@reece3352 the photos are from the front. You must be some type of genius to see the back kicking up anything. Stop trying to cover for something that is not allowed by maritime law. The coast guard was involved. What you gonna say pilot? You don’t like Hawaii maritime don’t come here
people make mistakes damn it
Wasn’t a mistake he wanted a better look the coast is gorgeous and pristine because it’s not accessible!!!!!
Ocean is for everyone. We need to share. Aloha
The ocean in Hawaii is for locals. Tourist come and destroy it. They stand on live coral, throw trash in the ocean and don’t care cause they don’t live in hawaii
Not when it comes to ruining our reef, disturbing a cultural site and the iwi burials plus protected ocean life found nowhere else on earth. That's not sharing that's stealing without asking and being greedy. Kānaka ʻŌiwi and our cherished cultural sites are slowly being decimated! That's NOT sharing. It's STEALING! Think about it.
@@anelakaiulanipe8994 haoles don’t see it that way. They think everything is rightfully theres too.
@@p3ngi3 Not haole Joe Biden! He's let in more people to the USA then there are people living in Hawaii. He's forced the US government to pay for them. How much relief did Maui get? Are you still voting Blue?
Cruise ships should be banned - period.
Jesus, people are getting more stupid by the day.
Cruising in general should be illegal. The impact on the environment all over the world is out of control. Cruise ships are for lazy people that can’t create their own adventure.
Unpopular opinion, totally agree. The ships and passengers are getting more brazen
Why can police cyberape the communities
OH YOU PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS COMPLAINING AND GETTING UPSET ABOUT SOMETHING. GET OVER IT!!!!
Stay in the mainland haole. Of course you don’t care. You don’t live in Hawaii.
Shut your ass
We call this type of response "the dumb haole" type
"You people"?
@@river4462 THATS RIGHT!!!!! YOU WACKY ASS PEOPLE!!!!