Did Sinn just break the Swiss watch market? Sinn reintroduces their 903 St aviation chronograph.
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- 6x the water resistance, half the price of a new Breitling Navitimer, and back to the classic outer sliderule bezel (no extra crown at 10 o'clock). This might be the best Sinn yet! I compare the just released Sinn 903 St models to the current and vintage Breitling Navitimers, including my own.
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Excellent review, well researched! Would love to get a collection photo from someone who owns this piece for my watch enthusiast website.
Great watch! I’m definitely trading my 2018 903 St BE for a newer version of the same, or the LE version. I own a Navitimer as well (pre B01 movement) and may upgrade that as well. I wear my Sinn much more frequently simply because it’s been more durable because of the water resistance with a screw down crown. I’ve worn it swimming at the lake many times. My Navi had to be repaired after I jumped in a pool with it on believing its slight water resistance would be ok…it wasn’t and stared fogging up the next day. It cost over $1,000 for the repair (which is the general $$ range to service or repair most Swiss mechanical watches). Bravo Sinn for upgrading and making an overall better/durable watch IMO! 👏👏
I'd pretty much get a Sinn over the Breitling equivalent any time. That new 903 ST is great.
The light blue dial is gorgeous. I preordered one!🥳
Can I borrow it for a review when it comes in? Pretty please :)
I have six Breitling watches, including a Navitimer, but I really like this Sinn. The main issue with Breitling Navitimers is their lack of waterproofness.
Indeed. The Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch is even worse.
It's a good movement and the specs are amazing. The old inner rotating bezel was unusable. Breitling has said several times, that water resistance on a Navitimer is impossible.
I'm going to acquire this timepiece.
Sinn definitely out engineered them on this one, and really listened to watch enthusiasts on what to change from the old 903. I'm sure you'll enjoy this new one!
I like history this model and new release is so pretty. I have the same movement LJP in my FC and I can definitely recommended. I hate sport watches even flieger watches that have 3 or 5 ATM WR. Sinn has amazing 20 ATM WR.
Overall very very well.🤩🤩
Got a few days ago the ice blue 903 ST. A fantastic timepiece!
Nice! I'm jealous!!
Enjoyed your well crafted video. Love the extra sound effects and clips. Subscribed !
Thank you very much!
The fact that the near $10,000 Breitling Navitimer is only 3 bar water resistant is absolutely ridiculous and unforgivable. It was essentially the sole purpose I chose the Sinn 903 over the Breitling.
Agree that it would be better without the date, if it could shave off 1mm. But at 14.5mm, it's not a train wreck for thickness, like some of the other Sinn chronographs that are 17mm tall. In any event, the date would not stop me from buying it, especially the dark blue version, which is stunning. And that 200m water resistance is a huge bonus. Frankly, why anyone would buy a Breitling Navitimer at twice the cost of this Sinn is beyond me.
Apparently, I’m the only one who is excited enough about this release to comment on it.
I'll make a comment to show that I also am interested in this Sinn 903. Just deciding on the Black Dial or maybe the Limited Ice Blue Dial, I like the fact it has no Date
Sooooo you dont see all the comments? LMAO
Thanks for being the first to comment! I was thinking this watch would spark some debate!
Am too but they apparently widened the crystal and make it looks bigger
Fantastico orologio ❤sto decidendo di acquistarlo e metterlo in collezione 💪blu ghiaccio veramente bello, una sola pecca per me sulla leggibilità delle sfere su dial chiaro …peccato 😫per il resto 200 mt , ruota a colonna ecc TOP 🚀😍
Very nicely done video. That watch is stunning .
Wubderbar Sinn! Top notch watch!
I just pre-ordered mine yesterday, and this video was great help in making that decision! 😊 I'm up for letting you borrow it for a review when it comes in, if you'd like to discuss offline. 😎
Absolutely! Feel free to email me at alwatches@the-design-works.com
I was yesterday in the Sinn Boutique in Frankfurt.
The iced blue is limited on 500 pieces and solled out yesterday.
But mostly by online orders, with a waiting time of over a half year. So still possible to inroll into the waiting list and hope that some quick online clicker do jump off.
Gorgeous watch!
It really is!
Very nice. I looked online for other versions and there's one with a Lemania movement, the 903 1873, which I think I prefer.
The limited edition is already sold out on the direct sales. It took four days.
Shoot I'm not surprised. Hopefully there will be some reasonably priced on the used market in the next year or two!
seems like really good value
Great review. Too bad the light blue is a limmited edition. I hate that...
Terrific release
ST stands for stainless in Sinn lingo just as Ti stands for titanium and SA stands for Sapphire.
That makes sense! Thanks!
I am still wondering should I go A23322 with 7750 or this Sinn. One one hand I will have the Breitling heritage and all, on the other the masterfully build 903 that looks like A23322, but it's not A23322.
This version of Navitimer at least for me - is the best modern Navitimer ever made as I am not a fan of the modern ones and I love the simplicity and robustness of 7750
Yup, that's the exact Navi that I have. Can't go wrong with that choice as long as the movement has been kept up.
If you know that Sinn owns the patents originally owned by Breitling for the Navitimer you should ask yourself what kind of heritage you are referring to…
Won’t ever trade a B01 for a La Joux Perret. Sinn makes terrific watches but not quite there. Breitling Navitimer is a legendary watch.
Honestly for less than half the price you’re definitely getting more than half the navitimer. The LJP movement is great and rivals or beats the ETA Valjoux 7550, but I’ve also seen the LJP in watches costing just under $1500. That’s probably what would hold me back.
Service and maintenance advantages to this Sinn, but for the price I'd rather get a used Navi. Overpriced in my opinion when the original is available.
More people should try Sinn. Quality watches at a reasonable price. Lots of innovation with the construction.
Where's the damn date?!!
Only the limited edition lacks a date (which I prefer, but I understand lots of people will disagree). The standard version keep the date window between the 4 and 5 o'clock positions.
I want the two crown older 903ST
Obviously you like what you like. The inner rotating bezel is excruciating to use. The extra crown means another potential water entry point. Obviously, the externally rotating bezel is also a water entry point. However, with 200 m WR vs 100m with the older version, the newer version seems functionally superior. By the way, 30 years ago, the 903 had a telemeter scale on the dial that allowed measuring distance based on sound and sight.
This watch is gorgeous. SINN makes really good stuff.
You make it look like Sinn is copying Breitling. You do realize Sinn bought the rights for that design from Breitling decades ago right?
Yup I discussed that in the video.
damn rip breitling
Maybe this will prompt Breitling to up their water resistance and cut prices??? Nah, probably not...
Mega
With my full respect to sinn and this watch specifically, but I would not buy this watch. I would buy the real thing from breitling. Plus B01 is far superior movement
B01 ought to be at least twice as good a movement, given a watch that’s twice as expensive. Everyone is going to have subjective values in choosing between these - but to me , the Sinn appeals specifically because it’s not a Breitling, and yet has its own 40+ year history behind it. It’s a nice choice to have, depending on what each of us likes specifically.
Well said!
The real Breitling ceased to exist in 1978 and sold the production rights for the real Navitimer to Sinn, while Sicura bought the right to name itself "Breitling" and to sell watches with the name "Navitimer". So the Navitimer design was inherited by Sinn, while the company that calls itself "Breitling" has just copied it.
I don't think it's totally fair to say that Sicura bought Breitling. Ernest Schneider, the former head of Sicura, bought Breitling (at the behest of the elderly Willy Breitling), and with it the rights to continue making and selling all the Breitling watches, not just the navitimer. From what I understand, it was his decision to stop making navitimers for several years, and his decision to reintroduce it, with the valjoux movement, several years later. I think he deserves a lot of credit for essentially saving the company from oblivion, while introducing his own innovation, the tabs at 12, 3, 6, and 9, that are now part of the icons of the Breitling design language.
We have 3 Navitimers at home, two of which are B01s for myself and the Mrs at 41 and 46mm. I want this Sinn just because. It is still a Navitimer in spirit and good to have as a comparison. I know that the main watch face dial has been cropped out for the chronograph subdials and this would be a good comparison as to how Sinn and Breitling has progressed the design over the years