Want Gender Equality? Let's Get Creative | Kyl Myers | TEDxSaltLakeCity

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  • After a decade of studying gender inequality, sociologist, Kyl Myers, decided childhood gender socialization needed a creative overhaul. Kyl shares her idea that if we want adulthood gender equality, we have to change the way we treat kids.
    Kyl Myers is a sociologist who specializes in gender and sexual & reproductive health. She’s been studying gender inequalities day in and day out for some time the last decade, and has decided to blaze a trail for future generations that will fascinate you. She’s no parenting expert, but she loves helping parents understand gender through a sociological perspective.
    This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx

КОМЕНТАРІ • 388

  • @hozzydaemon2021
    @hozzydaemon2021 5 років тому +98

    When I was four I wanted to be an archaeologist, welder or fighter pilot. I’m a 39 year old female welder and steelworker today.

    • @TampaJohn
      @TampaJohn 4 роки тому +8

      You’re not allowed, according to her. You’re a girl. You have to play the victim.

    • @smoen92
      @smoen92 4 роки тому +2

      It's always heartwarming to hear about people following their childhood dreams
      Out of curiosity, what's your take on this talk? It seems to me like she's implying that women following traditionally male interests are somehow less female, but that's just my interpretation

    • @TampaJohn
      @TampaJohn 4 роки тому +1

      Simen Moen I know it wasn’t addressed towards me, but I interpreted it exactly the same way. Women should be free to do whatever they want to do provided they are able to do it. As in, don’t lower standards for first responder positions. But if a woman wants to work as a welder, work on a crabbing boat in the rough Alaskan Seas, be a police officer, try to join the Navy Seals. That’s great for them. They should do what makes them happy and complete.

    • @Kat-nx3ch
      @Kat-nx3ch 4 роки тому +1

      @@TampaJohn i took the video as anyone should do what makes them happy and complete... I'm curious, what's the time for when she requested lower standards for first responder positions?

    • @TampaJohn
      @TampaJohn 4 роки тому

      Katherine Lapp When did I proclaim that’s what SHE said. I said that women should be free to do any job their heart desires. I am for total equality of rights. Therefore, as is already happening around the country, standards should not be lowered in order for them to do so. Lives could be lost. If I have to carry a 200 pound bag of sand 5 stories, down an elevator, why do women only have to carry 125 pounds? Is that equality? Men and women were made to do different things. There are many things a woman can d9 that I can’t. And standards should not be lowered that allows me to bypass those.

  • @brainfreeze7979
    @brainfreeze7979 7 років тому +89

    I will enjoy a TEDx talk from Zoomer in 20 years.

    • @aaronnelson6699
      @aaronnelson6699 5 років тому +2

      Yes! I'm very interested in seeing how this turns out.

    • @russgurpa1306
      @russgurpa1306 5 років тому +13

      With parents like that, this is going to be one messed up child with a bunch og psychological problems and failed relationships. In her 20's, she will be "so grateful" to her parents for such a rearing. In her begining thirties, she will be confused, lost and dipressed, taking antidepressants and developing other diseases. By mid or late thirties, she will hate her parents, who messed her up and made a psycho out of her.

    • @oddhouseproduction
      @oddhouseproduction 3 роки тому +4

      The Zoomer name itself will eff this kid up.

    • @Theendlessriver77
      @Theendlessriver77 3 роки тому +1

      Poor kid.

    • @ploopy99
      @ploopy99 Рік тому

      @@Theendlessriver77 ikr

  • @sabiyanica807
    @sabiyanica807 3 роки тому +15

    I'm a 25 girl, unmarried, and was very happy about this until I realized the down side. It's like living far from
    your family - yes, you feel independent, unrestricted, and able to live for yourself.
    But with age, you realize that living for yourself is entertaining, but not fulfilling.
    You don't need to rush into marriage, and when you're married don't rush out of the marriage. But the journey of
    life spent with another gives you something precious that can't be bought. That companionship, even if it ends
    badly, is better than ending alone.
    When I was younger, I looked at all the divorce out there and misery and hatred between exes, and I thought “I'm
    not going to make some one miserable, I'm not going to spend my life with someone I hate” …well, that's like
    saying “I'm not going to drive a car because of all the accidents.” Thats not the answer - the answer should be
    to wear seatbelts, take precautions. My resolution SHOULD have been “I'm going to love my spouse, for whoever he
    is, and I'm going to give him my best.” Instead, I chose to live for me, and that's who I got …just me.
    Find someone to love, and give them your best. Like an ocean voyage, it may not last forever but at least you gave
    it your best shot. And there may be many perils and storms, but atleast you survived them with someone. The
    relationships that I've had were very special to me and I wish I had gotten married. Instead, I married my
    “independence”.
    The people that get divorced and hate each other, they didn't know how to love, they were selfish - it wasn't
    “marriage” that created the misery, it was their unwillingness to love each other.
    Love is willing to accommodate (not a reluctant willingness, but an eager willingness), even when you don't really
    want to. Even when there's no gain from it. Even when the other person is annoying, or stinky, or exhausting.
    And when you can love your spouse like that, chances are your spouse will, too. And yes, it's POSSIBLE that you
    might love a person who doesn't, or can't, love their spouse …and that is sad. It really is. But I'd rather go to
    the Olympics and fail, than never go at all.
    Love is patient, love is kind.
    Love does not envy, is not boastful and is not conceited.
    Love is not rude or self-seeking.
    I'm waiting for the right one. If you agree with what I said, then contact my whatsapp: +447901380061
    I travel around the world, and my love won't be limited by district.
    Never Ever Part As Lovers.

  • @mariandrearaujo
    @mariandrearaujo 4 роки тому +38

    The comments on this makes so obvious how gender education and equality are so needed in the world.

    • @nyk3334
      @nyk3334 4 роки тому +2

      Why? For 0.02% of the population?

    • @josuecamarillo5831
      @josuecamarillo5831 4 роки тому

      The world would then get bombed

    • @burningfagstodeath
      @burningfagstodeath 4 роки тому

      Ok lets get your mom equality than.

    • @mariandrearaujo
      @mariandrearaujo 4 роки тому +2

      @Gregor Constance what do you mean equality of opportunity? We still don't. Implicit bias is well and alive, and gender violence, in hand with the unfair distribution of unpaid work makes it an illusion to still think all people have equal access to opportunities and to exercise their rights. We still need to solve a lot of practical day-to-day stuff to have an opportunity at equality.

    • @mariandrearaujo
      @mariandrearaujo 3 роки тому +2

      @Charles Fairchild and the fact that unpaid domestic labor is largely done by women so they have less time, and reproductive labor isn't paid or recognized either, even though unpaid labor is the foundation of economy. Big factor. Discrimination is because of that, and also plays a role in the wage gap.

  • @Londronable
    @Londronable 8 років тому +26

    This is what usually happens with me.
    One side I feel is wrong, so I look at the other.
    And then that side brings it way to far to the point of stupidity.
    Sigh.

  • @sabrinastyles1460
    @sabrinastyles1460 6 років тому +18

    Finally, someone who gets what I wish everyone would understand. You are a great inspiration.

  • @megadeuce-b7c
    @megadeuce-b7c 8 років тому +54

    I'll say this too. I think it's great to embrace your children and anything they choose to become, but I wouldn't shield them from the realities of the world. You can tell a child anything and they will believe it. You can paint a pretty picture of the world for them. When they grow up and the world punches them in the face, it will hurt a lot more, and the ability to handle the situation will diminish. I say when, because this is not and cannot be reality. Genders are physically different, so rather than reject those traits, embrace them as both genders inherently have advantages and disadvantages.

    • @annu2136
      @annu2136 4 роки тому +6

      That's a really good point.
      I do recognize that she's trying to make a change in the society for the better , and I obviously have no right to tell her how to raise her own kid. That said, I personally wouldn't raise my future kid in a completely ideal ( in this context, since unfair inequalities due to gender is being discussed ) environment, just due to the fact that the world isn't an ideal place.
      No, women shouldn't be scared to walk alone at night , and fathers shouldn't have to deal with the unfairness in family courts, but they do .
      Just because something shouldn't happen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. So maybe hiding things from your child may just delay what they're eventually going to find out anyway.
      It's cool if her kid is Non binary, but if the whole premise of gender is hidden from a child it may cause a lot of confusion later on..
      if not socially, atleast medically speaking.. because doctors are still going to make diagnoses based on the gender ..
      Then again, can't really preach without raising my own kid first huh..
      I do genuinely wish her family the best though.. her baby is adorable !

    • @ShivamGupta.31
      @ShivamGupta.31 3 роки тому

      inherent advantages and disadvantages.. interesting. My question, so they? if so, how?

    • @Song_of_hers
      @Song_of_hers 3 роки тому +1

      @@annu2136 "they shouldn't have to deal with the unfairness but they do" i'm pretty sure that's what she's trying to change, glad to know that you got the idea tho

  • @mmmarvel
    @mmmarvel 8 років тому +125

    You'll get paid less, just because you're a girl??? Really?? Be an electrician, you get paid by how much you know and you're level in the trade. All journeymen get a bottom rate and that increases as you gain experience, don't matter if you are male or female. No one stopping you, except YOU. Be who you want to be, but there are consequences - both plus and minus. We are all human but we are not all the same. If you don't like the wages you are offered, don't take the job. I don't understand this entire mindset.

    • @mikaeladrugge8591
      @mikaeladrugge8591 8 років тому +16

      Yes, you are paid less because you are a girl, just go out and google average salaries, chose the same level of experience, look at the gap and marvel.

    • @clownphabetstrongwoman7305
      @clownphabetstrongwoman7305 8 років тому +6

      Mikaela, why dont you do that?

    • @booboodfool9101
      @booboodfool9101 8 років тому +20

      I am from a third world country, from Costa Rica, my salary is equal to my male peers, we really don't discriminate gender and my mother taught me to be ambitious and competitive, while also think about others and take care of how I look, because no one can see my personality at first sight, I feel like we don't care if you're male or female or whatever, as long as you respect us and do a good job.

    • @robertsmith5306
      @robertsmith5306 7 років тому +10

      Mikaela Drugge men average more overtime then women for those jobs. That's the difference. They leave that part out. Every job I have ever been at women get paid the same and how about a women can say anything they want at work and not get fired and men can get fired for looking at a women wrong

    • @xaviuz9170
      @xaviuz9170 7 років тому +14

      Gender equality is not real, As a men I earned less (as a waiter) than a women doing the same job because I'm a man and people prefer to be waited by a women.

  • @GordieGii
    @GordieGii 7 років тому +25

    STEM employers are twice as likely to hire a female as a male with the same qualifications, and pay her two to three percent more if she is single and doesn't have children.
    Men with children get promoted more than women with children because men with children work more hours than men without children while women with children work fewer hours than women without children.

    • @sibgharehman6291
      @sibgharehman6291 3 роки тому +3

      exactly!! Why do women with children work for less hours and why do men work more? They also have right to relax and women also must have equal hours of work by making their home environment supportive and loving for all genders!!

    • @skarbuskreska
      @skarbuskreska 3 роки тому

      @@sibgharehman6291 in my experience I worked 10 hours less in part time for my children, but had the same amount of work done than my coworkers working those 10 hours more. There's social experiments of the 4 day workweek that show it can work and be just as efficent (depends on the job sureley, but more is possible than most people think). Also with really good kindergardens as support a lot works too.
      My ex had also part time lower hours, because we both wanted to work, so we also both had to do childcare and household. The only times that didn't work out was the last part of pregnacy (we have 6 weeks mandatory maternity leave in Germany before pregnancy) and the first year where I breastfed (might have worked with homeoffice, but that wasn't a thing back then).
      We totally liked our less hours more time for the family 50%/50% model. Since my ex was raised by a dad at home, mother working, this wan't an issue at all. I can totally recommend if it is financially suitable. Would also recommend working less hours without children, life quality is just better. Staying humble helps to require less money for your life.
      I'm aware though that for many people this isn't possible sadly.
      BTW if you really count all hours together with a stop watch including work, childcare, shopping, cooking and household and other works done, most woman work more hours than men not less. Some work is just not payed for. So asking for relaxation is cool, but the women deserve it too. Problem is many families are in a constant race because the payments are not enough and everyone is exhausted and starts to think that they are the only one working hard, when in reality the other partner might be just as and even more exhausted.

    • @sibgharehman6291
      @sibgharehman6291 3 роки тому +2

      @@skarbuskreska i agree but what I am trying to say is that men with children shouldn’t work in office for more hours than women. They should work for equal number of hours but this is only possible if our home-environment is friendlier and men help women in house chores. We must divide our responsibilities equally!

  • @mrzli44
    @mrzli44 8 років тому +32

    Have two boys and than a girl. We have tried not to treat them any different and I expected girl to take trades of broders. But NO girl is girl. Gander is not just social construction!!! But YES give them fare opportunities. It DON'T mean SAME but what they need to express their potential AND fare rewards.

    • @thedutchman01
      @thedutchman01 8 років тому +13

      A friend of mine once said it very well I thought.
      "Men and women are equal, but we are not the same."
      Meaning that sure, we should be treated equally, we should get the same chances in life, but that does not mean that we should expect to be treated the same, because we just aren't.
      So yeah. Gender is not a just social construct.

    • @juliz2500
      @juliz2500 6 років тому +3

      It's very hard for parents to treat children any different, especially when their surroundings don't. That's why Kyl and her husband don't disclose their child's gender.

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell 5 років тому

      @@juliz2500
      You mean living on a farm with no neighbors for miles, or cable TV?

  • @Appleblade
    @Appleblade 6 років тому +32

    I thought the creative part was going to be encouraging women to give up their comfy office jobs and do the ditch digging, concrete pouring, roofing, and siding jobs men always do. Women have a lower center of gravity than men ... they should be great at walking slanted roofs and keeping their balance on ladders and scaffolding.

    • @TampaJohn
      @TampaJohn 4 роки тому +2

      Precisely! My ex girlfriends family has a builders company. She used to help out on occasion. She did great up there shingling. lol

    • @mariandrearaujo
      @mariandrearaujo 3 роки тому +4

      I don't know if men's ego could take it tbh, be second in everything? Could work though xD

  • @LoriWolfcat
    @LoriWolfcat 6 років тому +5

    I’m so confused. I’m a women and my mom never said “This isn’t for girls.” She raised me to just enjoy being a kid. I didn’t start wearing and being curious about wearing dresses til I hit puberty.
    If you wanna say everything’s for everyone, then don’t confuse your kid. What if they question about why they’re not invited to a girls sleepover, or not invited to boys night? What if your kids’ a girl and goes thru puberty? You’re gonna tell her that boys get a monthly thing too?? Or boys can get pregnant too, so watch out? Just let your kid be a kid and don’t purposely exclude them from activities cuz of what You want. Kids could do whatever they want. When they hit puberty is when they would for sure know what they’re gonna get themselves into. If they wanna switch, get them the surgery. Don’t leave them blind for 10+ years.

    • @jwidergren9712
      @jwidergren9712 5 років тому +3

      That is really good for you Lori, but that is not the real world for everyone. I think what you experienced in your childhood is just what she is trying to emphasis. Raise a child as a child and not as a boy and a girl, and if they early in life or later would like to wear a dress, that is ok, no matter gender.

  • @portiawright2767
    @portiawright2767 Рік тому +4

    i've studied sociology and this video is wonderful

  • @the-vuk
    @the-vuk 4 роки тому +17

    So .. according to her, de-gendering the child is the solution, and not trying to convince those idiots who say "it's not for boy/girl" NOT to say those things...
    I'm a sad panda.

  • @raquelcarrillo5792
    @raquelcarrillo5792 7 років тому +7

    When I started learning and asking about feminism and gender imposition, I was very esceptical. I believed in equality above men and women, but insisted that gender was just the way of life to achieve some kind of order and that of course, had to be defined by the biological sex. After watching this video I realized there is not an aswer to continue reproducing these ideologies. I mean, why do men and women should be treated different? Why should we have different interests and qualities to enhance? There is no answer, there is no reason.

    • @josuecamarillo5831
      @josuecamarillo5831 4 роки тому

      Because the world would then get bombed

    • @Lycurgus1982
      @Lycurgus1982 Рік тому

      The reasons are manifold why the sexes are treated differently and have different interests. One example is that most people are unaware of how physically taxing working rough jobs is. That is a whole other reality in terms of how someone is put together and we desperately need those types in society. I don't think this method of child rearing is a better alternative to a more traditional one. What I do think is that people are loosing the sense of what it means to survive in the world. More choices, more rights and no mention of responsibility.

  • @sanaa94
    @sanaa94 8 років тому +17

    The problem is not gender roles. It's in the disparity of respect given to these roles. Raising your child as a social experiment is not a good idea. Regardless of "gender performance" a child is male or female and deserves to know that or they will be confused. It's fine if a female child relates to "masculine" things more and if a male child relates to "feminine" things more, but they still deserve to know that they are male or female and what those things mean in their society. To deny your child that knowledge is, I would so far as to say, abusive. Hopefully this woman's child is intelligent enough in his/her own right to figure out their sex and gender on their own and move on from their mad parents' abusive experiment.

  • @seansquire6020
    @seansquire6020 7 років тому +14

    Poor Zooma is going to grow up to realise that world is not how he imagined it to be. This theory can only possibly work if everyone adopted the same practice at once and that is impossible. Odds are, even if we did, things would gradually turn out how they are now.

  • @Raptanax
    @Raptanax 8 років тому +7

    So it'll go away if we stop believing in it? This relies on the assumption that it is entirely created by us. If I stop believing in the monsters under my bed, (whether I can or not is a separate issue) then there will be only positive results from my change in belief. If I stop believing in gravity, (I have flown under my own power numerous times while dreaming) there may be some negative consequences. In a sense, this sort of thinking is its own experiment. I look forward to seeing the results.

  • @ethandelaune9704
    @ethandelaune9704 5 років тому +26

    4:12 False

  • @varshagoyal7626
    @varshagoyal7626 3 роки тому +11

    I agree with most of your points but the one of raising a child gender neutrally. I am not talking about you raising your child but this idea. I too believe that all genders must be treated equally and that anyone can do anything they want but nature has given us with different physical traits. And that is the reality that both genders are different biologically but then also equal. So the ideal way would be to not constrain them under the gender stereotypes but teaching them that they are different but yet equal

  • @Proestetic
    @Proestetic 5 років тому +15

    In this unfair society, men die, and women don't have enough money ...

    • @wolfrainexxx
      @wolfrainexxx 2 роки тому

      In this society, there's no such thing as women, so inequality is a myth.

  • @brindlebot
    @brindlebot 3 роки тому +6

    That's weird - in the engineering company I know the women earn 100% the same. But they have an engineering degree.

  • @harplyong
    @harplyong 6 років тому +4

    Why don't I hear women complaining about not staying behind in a disastrous situation where men would save the women and children first!?
    Why don't I hear women complaining about not having to take up hard physically dangerous jobs just so there would be food on the table?
    Why and why and why and more whys!? Bunch of spoiled women, who are pampered by hard working men, who want all the benefits without having to earn it. It's much easier to move your mouth than actually having to do the work.
    Let's put these them in men's shoes and make them work like men. Wait, that wont work either, they are privileged to the female standard that cuts them such slack and delusionally makes them believe them are just as good as men in all areas.
    Truth is, women have your strength just like men have our own. Honor it and celebrate it instead of asking to be equal in all areas unless you are ready to work yourself like a man.
    Learn your strength and focus on them. Why would you try to measure yourself up to someone else who has different strength than yours and when you fail, you cry out loud about not being equal!?
    I know I would never measure up to women in certain things in life and I am ok with that. I respect women for their uniqueness and their feminine intelligence they have to offer to the society. If any one who does not treat women equally it's your own gender, NOT MEN!!! I know more men who are willing to work for and love their ladies than women who know how to honor and love themselves.

  • @favoredhappiness4123
    @favoredhappiness4123 3 роки тому +6

    A great talk about Gender Inequality/Equality

  • @ForMistressMagick
    @ForMistressMagick 6 років тому +6

    Let kids choose their own toys and clothes - and even their own pronouns. But trust them to do so. If you wind up with a very confused child with multiple personality disorder after using plural pronouns for years don't blame anyone but yourself.

  • @james4wd236
    @james4wd236 7 років тому +24

    How about we quit turning everyone into a victim of their situation.

    • @blkfly24
      @blkfly24 7 років тому +1

      James4wd facts

  • @Γυναίκαστοπαράθυρο
    @Γυναίκαστοπαράθυρο 4 роки тому +28

    Fun fact: there is no "he" or "she" in Turkish

    • @the-vuk
      @the-vuk 4 роки тому +3

      neither in Hungarian

    • @TampaJohn
      @TampaJohn 4 роки тому

      In Tagalog, they are intertwined. They will regularly refer to a woman as he and vice versa. I dated a Filipina nurse. It got to be confusing at times.

    • @yamother8088
      @yamother8088 3 роки тому

      Why

    • @oddhouseproduction
      @oddhouseproduction 3 роки тому

      I have been saying to these English speaking millenials-zoomers that other languages do not work the same but they do not want their bubble burst..

  • @nimrawani7574
    @nimrawani7574 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you Madam for this Honest talk Where no women or no men is criticized its all about equality.

    • @Lycurgus1982
      @Lycurgus1982 Рік тому

      If it is all about equality then why does it not exist in the natural world?

    • @Netcrosystem
      @Netcrosystem 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Lycurgus1982why does medicine not exist in the natural world? Equality, like medicine, might not be entirely natural sadly but we’re better off for it

    • @Lycurgus1982
      @Lycurgus1982 7 місяців тому

      @@Netcrosystem Are we now? What kind of equality are you talking about? The kind that gives you the same opportunity as the next person or the kind that attempts to artificially equalize in some measure those who are unlike the next person? If it is the later who gets to decide what is equal? Who are they compared to? The Soviets tried to enforce equal outcomes and that didn't end very well for them at all. We are not meant to be the same.

  • @throwaways6867
    @throwaways6867 5 років тому +20

    So what bathroom will zoomer use when they’re alone?

  • @megadeuce-b7c
    @megadeuce-b7c 8 років тому +4

    I would love to meet the parents that paid their daughter 4 dollars and their son 5 dollars for allowance. My guess is the data sample of families just happened to show that the family with more boys gave more money to all their kids than the family with more girls. It's statements like that where the talker loses me.

    • @aluminij056
      @aluminij056 6 років тому +6

      It wasn't chores, but my parents recently started paying my brother for good grades, which they never did with me *shrug* Parents never treat their kids the same, despite the best of intentions.

    • @Song_of_hers
      @Song_of_hers 3 роки тому +2

      what's with the denial

    • @Lycurgus1982
      @Lycurgus1982 Рік тому

      Not to mention the pay gap myth.

  • @mofa9745
    @mofa9745 7 років тому +7

    What the hell ? ... gender as a social construct ? Yeh, right ! I used to think that once too. I was a feminist when I was young because I grew up watching my father beat my mother, and so I despised masculinity, including my own. But then I couldn't get a girlfriend ! Then I remember a tough guy said to me "You gotta understand a woman doesn't want a man who is more feminine than she is ..." The message clicked and I started to get girlfriends. These biological drives and instincts are very old and hardly anything to do with social constructs - that's BS !

  • @misaeljlaureano8058
    @misaeljlaureano8058 7 років тому +2

    It's like saying to a person I don't see your skin color when I see you, saying that to someone is wrong, your looks are what make you, you. We are not equal male and female are different, together we are complete .

  • @BullishlyOptimistic
    @BullishlyOptimistic 7 років тому +3

    Maybe we should let our kids discover what species they identify with most. Who are we to tell them they are humans?

    • @f.vazquez9259
      @f.vazquez9259 Рік тому +1

      LOL in fact, who are we to tell them they are an animal species and not a plant? That´s the reason for many inequalities between plants and animals all through History. Think of it, if you are a tree, nobody expects you to go anywhere, so you just don´t go anywhere. It´s so unfair for you as a tree. If you are an animal, everyone expects you to run away if you are a herbivore, and if you don´t behave as they expect you to behave sooner or later they will just eat you. So unfair for you as an animal.

  • @RoderickEtheria
    @RoderickEtheria 7 років тому +5

    The wage gap is a lie. There are many reasons women get paid less. They typically go into the less dangerous and stressful jobs, work overtime less of the time, and ask for raises less of the time. The study that showed women getting paid less than men classified several similar jobs together, but by no means did it compare the woman and the man doing the exact same job at the same place for the same amount of hours a day. It doesn't consider these mitigating factors at all. When these are controlled for, most employers do pay their workers the same or similar wages, with not all that much difference. There are exceptions, but most of these have other considerations to control for. Take, for instance, modeling, where women generally get paid considerably more than men because the man is getting sold on being able to date that woman and the women are getting sold on the idea of being that woman. This is where the advertisers find they benefit the most. Then take, for instance, police work or other work which requires a certain amount of strength that men are more likely to have, which results in men doing the more dangerous tasks inside the job.
    Men and boys are more valued than women and girls? Where is this woman living? Who is being evacuated from the ships first in her world? Who is getting sent to fight wars more in her world? Who is being put in more danger as a whole in her world? The women? No, the men's whole basis of living is to support the women. The women are the people who have the choice in the majority of their lives. You have your idea of who is valued more mixed up.

  • @linguaphile9415
    @linguaphile9415 6 років тому +2

    "Gender inequalities can not exist if they are not perpetuated." This presupposes that cognitive and behavioral differences between sexes are purely socially conditioned, i. e. constructed. This is factually false as any serious scientist in a relevant field (biology or psychology) can demonstrate. It is true that there are aspects of male and female stereotypes that are constructed, but what she is trying to hammer home here is that millions of years of evolution have no effect on behavior and don't matter at all. I'm also wondering how she is going to isolate her child from its peer group who may and will definitely also have an effect on its behavioral development as well as its preferences and interests.

  • @TommWayfarer
    @TommWayfarer 5 років тому +3

    Mixing ideas is the way of constructing confussion, is the same as trying to make an acceptance culture in handycap ones instead of making science prosthetic to keep them moving forward.
    Most gender problems need to be treated in fetal momentum , because is there where we can treat and prevent gender dysphoria.

  • @forlornhope9769
    @forlornhope9769 3 роки тому +3

    would have been a great talk in the nineties but very few of the examples she gives held any weight outside the US for decades.

  • @bayavoce
    @bayavoce 8 років тому +25

    Thank you for this talk. I thought I was open before, this split my world in half and gave me a completely different way of thinking things. What I love most about this talk is that you aren't asking men and women to be the same... you are asking them to be equal and to get creative about what equality looks like.

    • @oliviakeene4905
      @oliviakeene4905 8 років тому

      +mark singer OK, I don't think you realise just how wrong you are, this talk was enlightening and life changing try to think about and understand just how much this could improve our society. Your kind of thinking is what is doing the damage here not her (definitely not stupid) mouth.
      Just think about it a little.

    • @agespenst2278
      @agespenst2278 8 років тому +6

      Olivia Keene
      She's spitting out all the so called feminists "facts"! Notice that she doesn't offer anything to back up her up.

    • @olliearzurahlee3665
      @olliearzurahlee3665 8 років тому

      mark singer ha! them I suggest you read some journals and do some research

    • @olliearzurahlee3665
      @olliearzurahlee3665 8 років тому

      A Gespenst that calling it know what you are talking about

    • @tuomasmarkunpoika7362
      @tuomasmarkunpoika7362 7 років тому +1

      Swedish comedian

  • @oliviakeene4905
    @oliviakeene4905 8 років тому +2

    I love this talk, if we could get this kind of thinking to become reality we'd have a world where there are no set categories that people have to fall under from birth, it would be such free, loving society where no-one would shame non-cis gendered people or have gender roles at all, to all the people criticising her in the comments please try to see how monumentally life changing this would be for everyone. I'm not sure that you quite understand just what a free world it would be, try to think out of the box and as she said get creative!

  • @jimwichen7978
    @jimwichen7978 2 роки тому

    7:20 what else could we ask? "how old is the baby?" "who is the father?"

  • @buckmeister78
    @buckmeister78 4 роки тому +6

    Kyl Meyers is still selling that snake oil. To think U of U employs such intellectual gold 😂

  • @arleneheaton6828
    @arleneheaton6828 3 роки тому +6

    if she truly believes this gender equality then does zoomer call her by her name and not mom. mom and dad are gender assigned names

  • @JohnathanCamien
    @JohnathanCamien 6 років тому +4

    Very few items that spewed from this ladies mouth I agreed with. The majority I just felt she was showing her sexist unintelligence she has conditioned herself to believe.

  • @Photomonon
    @Photomonon 7 років тому +12

    I garauntee you she is one of the least happiest people you'll ever meet if you get a genuine encounter with her. this woman has errected wall to block her view from every obstacle in life.

    • @trinitymyers8098
      @trinitymyers8098 7 років тому +7

      Getranke Nomimono she is actually a very happy person

    • @ceerd2094
      @ceerd2094 6 років тому +3

      +Jean L no she's not. she's fake happy. watch her videos on instagram of her talking. she's so seriously bitter she can't even hide it

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell 5 років тому +1

      @@ceerd2094
      She needs to learn the place nature gave her, and stop the insanity before it's too late for her....which it probably is, of course.

    • @tatianagoncalves944
      @tatianagoncalves944 4 роки тому +5

      Really? For questioning steriotypes?! Are you guys so afraid of that??? Why?

  • @atiajulia4028
    @atiajulia4028 6 років тому +5

    Wow, so many hateful comments. We have a long way to go..

  • @moedog
    @moedog 6 років тому +5

    50/50 with her

  • @Matt-jv7fg
    @Matt-jv7fg 7 років тому +8

    Hopefully, Zoomer will have a strong sense of social intuition, since you are not willing to teach him. Lots of children in the past generation were raised with the lie that boys and girls were the same, and it left them confused and at a disadvantage when they reached adolescence. If your kid understands gender roles and chooses to be non-conforming, then great for them, but for you not to teach them about the world... you're abandoning your responsibility as a parent just to promote your ideology.

    • @ms.ninetailzjada2389
      @ms.ninetailzjada2389 7 років тому

      not quite boys have their role as protectors beaten down their throat. make sure you protect your sister she was older than me. Walk on the dangerous side of the street. hold doors for girls, compliment girls, dont hit girls. If she hits you walk away.

    • @jas16899
      @jas16899 6 років тому

      I've seen this information referenced by another one of you. What is this idea of "boys and girls are the same" and who is reporting these results about the children you are saying have been materially affected by this idea?

  • @danesawyer1190
    @danesawyer1190 8 років тому +16

    Great talk and a great way to view the world. And for all the negative comments below, you really are part of the problem, the scary thing is that you can't even see it.

    • @ilparil5236
      @ilparil5236 7 років тому +1

      It is not a great view of the world, a big part of her information is biased. And she spreads a lot of nonsense into a big audience who will believe what she says.
      You are a man, so the chances of you trusting facts instead of feelings is higher then for woman. But there is always an odd one.

    • @MrJasonworkman
      @MrJasonworkman 6 років тому

      Dane Sawyer complaining is not a great way to see the world

  • @ronnydsouza4689
    @ronnydsouza4689 7 років тому +28

    what a sad ted talk! 15 MINS of life lost forever.

    • @amarath84
      @amarath84 7 років тому +1

      thanks man turning it of now and youse my 15min somewhere else

    • @letmgkfree
      @letmgkfree 7 років тому +1

      Ronny Dsouza haha haha I agree

  • @philipclark5962
    @philipclark5962 8 років тому +36

    gender/sex is biological and not a social construct. stop trying to insist that women and men are exactly the same. Just embrace the differences. There are things that men are generally better than women and there is things that women are better than men.

    • @nunurbuisness5877
      @nunurbuisness5877 8 років тому +1

      Veteran Gamer
      we're better in every way

    • @mimoslavich6639
      @mimoslavich6639 7 років тому +4

      You racist, sexist, homophobic, conservative, bigot! Biology and science are unimportant in the new world ;)

    • @Walido_azmi
      @Walido_azmi 7 років тому

      HA ! HA ! 'unimportant'

    • @obamasinladen5222
      @obamasinladen5222 7 років тому

      who are you talking about men or women?

    • @obamasinladen5222
      @obamasinladen5222 7 років тому

      alright?

  • @moipham5208
    @moipham5208 7 років тому +3

    Nonsense! It doesn't take an intelligent person to realise that there are no gender wage gap. Its the average of wage between woman and men. Its because men work harder. It is illegal to pay men more than woman. I have not seen a work place that pays men more than woman. And I dont know anyone that know such a workplace. And even if there is, then its not because its a man, but its because he's better at his job. I have also seen a woman getting paid more than a man at my workplace, and that's because she was more abled at her job, nothing to do with gender. Not goimg to bother finishing this video.

  • @aikawatanabe8967
    @aikawatanabe8967 5 років тому +2

    Most realistic and all-encompassing gender-related Ted talks I've seen.

  • @hellybelle5
    @hellybelle5 7 років тому +11

    I'm not going to listen to all of this, it's rubbish! Everytime someone harps on about things like women not being represented in politics, I want to point out that they're not equally represented in refuse collection, sewage works, delivery jobs, plumbing, farming etc... the list goes on and all, all the basic infrastructure of society. The only thing I agreed with is when a man notices he has something wrong, he often ignores it, until it's too late. I didn't grow up in a family like she describes. I grew up in a perfect family! :) lol My brother had a doll that was brought for him... my other brother didn't. They were both great with kids.

  • @HoldenNY22
    @HoldenNY22 7 років тому +1

    I struggle with an Eating Disorder and I'm a Male

  • @jodieestelle6477
    @jodieestelle6477 6 років тому +3

    I admire you and you have inspired me, don’t take offence to the small minded comments, people are scared of change and ideas bigger than their comfortable worlds. ❤️

  • @throwaways6867
    @throwaways6867 5 років тому +3

    If I (a hypothetical business owner) can pay a female less than a man, why would I ever employ men?

  • @l3onerdo
    @l3onerdo 7 років тому +1

    What if children can decide freely and decide like the world is today? Would you stop complaining?

  • @aaronnelson6699
    @aaronnelson6699 5 років тому +5

    You seriously found an objective study done on gender differences is children's allowances? The "Allowance Gap"?

    • @TampaJohn
      @TampaJohn 4 роки тому

      😂 Was it the same fictional 78%?

  • @uncleskipsprairiejustice9367
    @uncleskipsprairiejustice9367 Рік тому +1

    Babies aren't born "knowing who they are". They learn it. Making them guess who they are is just cruel.

  • @TampaJohn
    @TampaJohn 4 роки тому +3

    “I’ll get paid less, just because I’m a girl”. This has been debunked so many times, it isn’t even funny. Women who do the same job, for the same amount of time, at the same skill level, make MORE than men. So can you feminists please drop this narrative and come up with another?

  • @JaxsonGalaxy
    @JaxsonGalaxy 7 років тому +2

    There is a it to take in here that I feel like a lot of people are missing. For one she makes the very important, and oft overlooked, distinction between gender and sex. There's no reason to believe that being raised without knowledge of one's own sex is the same as being raised without knowledge of their socially expected gender. And while I personally disagree with their decisions as parents and question whether a peer reviewed version of this as an experiment would pass an ethics committee, their ability as parents isn't what is this is about. It's about taking a closer look at the source of gender-based problems that have a negative impact, and potentially how to solve them. I do not assume to know all of the details of these people's personal lives, but as an open minded member of the scientific community, as presented I disapprove. But that's not to say that if I met, or was able to observe them that I couldn't be convinced otherwise, but it seems that it would be far more useful to simply raise their son as a boy and make sure that he's aware of gender-based negativity, and lead him on a path of education.
    Again, I'd like to emphasize that I don't know the details and that I'm only going solely from the information presented in this video, but I honestly have a bit of fear and anxiety for Zoomer in terms of his mental state during puberty, especially in terms of suicide. The sex-based gender-lens is how an individual builds an identity within the world and understands how they relate to it. I feel many of the negative outcomes highlighted in this video are largely oversimplified with the assumption that child development is something that just happens more or less the same way across all subjects. And while it's true that many of the tragic deaths of teenage suicide are due to gender identity, in that particular case, I'd wager that the birth assigned gender is far less of a problem than the child being taught that it's okay to change if they discover differently. There are so many other problems I would bet contribute more, like religious background (both familial and societal,) socio-economic factors, access to education, and on. This feels a bit like the gluten-free thing of the last few years, where "what's good for the goose is good for the gander," even though most people can eat gluten with no ill effect, yet it gets applied to masses of self diagnosed people to whom it grants no benefit or hindrance one way or the other. Most people are fine most of the time with their birth-assigned gender, it's an assumption to say otherwise. If there were some genetic testing that said otherwise, maybe. The assumption that a child (and the world) is better without an assigned gender is the worse than the assumption that assuming the childs gender based on sex will significantly impact it's life or the larger social order negatively.
    I'm typing this on my phone and have kind of lost a few of the points I was trying to make, so in short: I liked the talk, I'm fascinated by it, I'm interested to see what happens to Zoomer, and I think it's a positive intent and that her heart is in the right place, but poorly thought out, poorly implemented, and reckless.

  • @bobebaba3721
    @bobebaba3721 7 років тому +2

    Lmao XD Obviously people will ask if it's a girl or boy bcoz besides that you can only ask how many is in there, are they healthy, or when they will be born, maybe the possible name choices or who the dad is, but I suppose that last one would more likely to trigger the mother than the "boy or girl" question....

  • @jeffferguson899
    @jeffferguson899 6 років тому +4

    the pay gap is a myth.

  • @Savvynomad225
    @Savvynomad225 5 років тому +1

    Nature vs nurture, it's a mix... empirical studies have shown that boys are naturally inclined to be more interested in things and girls are naturally inclined to be more interested in people, even without social or cultural nurturing.

  • @CaptainAmaziiing
    @CaptainAmaziiing 7 років тому +27

    I stopped at 'I'll get paid less because I'm a girl.'

  • @user-si2uk4lp2n
    @user-si2uk4lp2n 2 роки тому +2

    That was good.
    Thank you.
    FTN :)

  • @VG__
    @VG__ Рік тому

    5:30
    7:06
    8:23

  • @zodiacmx
    @zodiacmx 7 років тому +5

    there was a time when ted talks used to mean something.

    • @road-x
      @road-x 5 років тому +1

      yes, i vaguely remember that too

  • @speedcuff8160
    @speedcuff8160 3 роки тому

    nothing like a social experiment on your own kid

    • @oddhouseproduction
      @oddhouseproduction 3 роки тому

      It is gonna go the way James Woods once said - Wait until this poor kid grows up, realizes what you've done, and stuffs both of you dismembered into a freezer in the garage

  • @ursuskineto3221
    @ursuskineto3221 7 років тому +3

    there is a handfull of sexchromosome "variations" or better "defects" or "mutations" besides xx and xy. A "spectrum" is a bit different than a countable number. Or would you call EGA-Graphic (16 colors) as a "spectrum" of colors?
    Pls get some sanity... for Zuma atleast.

  • @Alexandy1
    @Alexandy1 3 роки тому +1

    This was great

  • @travellingtom6091
    @travellingtom6091 5 років тому +1

    So she is claiming the differences in the sexes is purely social. She is also spouting figures in isolation. An awful "scientist" and she doesn't know what she is talking about.

  • @brandonreynolds18
    @brandonreynolds18 7 років тому

    Everyone is different male, female or non of the above, blame the parents, there was no such thing as getting money for jobs in my house as i was in my eyes just doing favours to make my mums life easier.

  • @davehall4497
    @davehall4497 6 років тому +5

    LOL... Lady when and if you ever pull your head out, check out your software, and by the way, there are many other differences that make up the "real" reasons for what you perceive to be inequality.

  • @margotiglandskarpeteig4669
    @margotiglandskarpeteig4669 3 роки тому +2

    Wow! Love it!

  • @WindyVinzy
    @WindyVinzy 4 роки тому +4

    "I'm confused so my offspring have to be more confuse"

  • @Alowisiuz
    @Alowisiuz 7 років тому +1

    I'm 100% in favor of gender equality, but this is just list of complaints and no solutions. Why not advertise the benefits for equality for men? There are a lot!

  • @redj5398
    @redj5398 7 років тому +2

    but men ARE different. to say we're not is ridiculous. and if they're not then why can't i wear a tampon?

    • @saadi3245
      @saadi3245 7 років тому +1

      Red J well, if you want to........

    • @mariandrearaujo
      @mariandrearaujo 5 років тому +1

      "Why can´t I wear size 6 shoes?" See? I can do it two. But you missed the point. EVERYONE is different. That´s the point. Not in two segments, every person.

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell 5 років тому

      @@mariandrearaujo
      Exactly
      Women are for breeding, cooking, caring, and cleaning.
      Men are for work, action and excellence in innovation.
      Everyone *is* different; correct.

  • @MrAussiesyd
    @MrAussiesyd 7 років тому +22

    and this is a typical example of junk science

  • @Hondadctrider
    @Hondadctrider 7 років тому +2

    Why did nobody point out the blatant mistakes in her speech?

  • @oddhouseproduction
    @oddhouseproduction 3 роки тому +1

    Apparently any ideologue can get a speech at TED talk.. And TED tries to pass as a science based talk. What a joke this TED-talk became, sad really..

  • @Machen1988
    @Machen1988 7 років тому +7

    Study Petroleum chemical Engineering and work in an oil rig.

  • @blueli9ht101
    @blueli9ht101 6 років тому +6

    She says fact .. thank you girl

  • @ernsmile579
    @ernsmile579 6 років тому

    Women will now need to DIGG for GOLD and DIAMOND and other resources like oil.
    Contruction area are now require that 50% of them are women.
    There will be ONE CONFORT-ROOM!!!
    I see that women now a days can see is only money to buy things,but never think how things are made through bending metals, bronze and aluminum.
    CAN THERE BE A GENDER EQUALITY in a CALAMITY?

  • @anitabonghit2758
    @anitabonghit2758 6 років тому +1

    "when i grow up i will earn less just because i dont work as hard. and i wont be able to wear the latest cute summer fashions because the airconditioner is too cold 😢"
    oh those poor upper class white western women. so much injustice

  • @cfsaif
    @cfsaif 6 років тому +1

    i tried. i actually genuinely tried. i couldn't get the past the 5 minute mark.

  • @happyme20
    @happyme20 3 роки тому

    What did she say
    Gender bending of girl to boy is tomboy and boys to girl is-?

  • @Bodofooko
    @Bodofooko 5 місяців тому

    But she still raised zoomer as a human? Why lock them into such a strict framework. We shouldn't be categorized or restricted to just our physical characteristics. If they want to be a human, they'll figure it out eventually. Also, much of our identity is rooted in language. A baby raised speaking english can have a different experience of the world than one raised speaking cantonese. Why lock the child into the language of your choosing? Just grunt and point until the child figures out what language they want to speak. I hope zoomer survived this extremely restrictive upbringing.

  • @andrewjohn2124
    @andrewjohn2124 6 років тому

    Can this woman give one example in 2018 of a "gender disparity" that disadvantages women? I would like documentation please.

  • @faisfaizal5194
    @faisfaizal5194 7 років тому

    My mom gave me freedom to choose who I am,I chose to be an apache helicopter. Life's great

  • @Blissa91
    @Blissa91 8 років тому +13

    Very inspiring!

  • @gio1135
    @gio1135 6 років тому +1

    When I was 9, I wanted to be a PweDiePie subscriber.

  • @Adityakurmi129
    @Adityakurmi129 3 роки тому

    @jordonpeterson bashed all her hypotheses and they are destroying the life of zoomer.

  • @HarryMooreMusic
    @HarryMooreMusic 7 років тому +5

    The ideas here are very appealing, but she fails to go into any serious depth. I recently discovered Jordan Peterson who counters them very successfully. Really worth watching his videos as he certainly knows what he's talking about being a Professor of Psychology, and IF the ideas presented in this talk are wrong then it could be seriously damaging for both women and men (and feminism...).

  • @driezzt4251
    @driezzt4251 4 роки тому

    te saltaste un diamante en el minuto 5:34

  • @rickchilders3464
    @rickchilders3464 7 років тому +9

    You should move to Sweden, quickly. Then they can be a hen in your funny little world. I think I will identify as a guava berry today.

  • @extreme596
    @extreme596 8 років тому +1

    superb

  • @ishanpradhan8958
    @ishanpradhan8958 3 роки тому +2

    This women is very less educated to be giving speech.

  • @thdgaming2000
    @thdgaming2000 3 роки тому

    Who's here from Humber lol

  • @grandma2343
    @grandma2343 8 років тому

    I just have to say that gender is not a political or societal thing, it's genes. But it was a pretty good video

    • @warwick2849
      @warwick2849 7 років тому

      Come on grandma you should know better.