BlackMagic Camera App + iPhone 15 ProRes LOG - The Hidden Features You Need to Know! (with LUTs)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2023
- BlackMagic Camera App & iPhone 15 Pro - The Hidden Features You Need to Know! (with LUT)
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Blackmagic Camera App In Depth Review + iPhone 15 Pro ProRes Log (With Conversion Lut)
I noticed some of you saying you don't see log in the app on your iPhone 15. You have to turn it on inside your apple IOS before you can see it in the app.
reinstalling after migrating to the new phone worked for me
to fix the viewfinder, use Generate LUT in Davinci, you just want a node converting to HLG2100 with a -1.5 global exposure offset
1. drag clip into Media, right click create new timeline from clip
2. right click Input Color Space should show Apple Log (if not update/change your project settings to "Davinci Color Managed")
3. go to Color tab, click Clips at the top, right click the clip 'Bypass Color Management'
4. in Effects panel, drag Color Space Transform onto the node: Rec2020/AppleLog → Rec2100/Rec2100HLG
5. still on color tab, click the HDR Grade button and change the Global exposure to -1.5 (this corrects the difference between NHK Base Spec and BBC, you can see what I mean by using LUTCalc)
6. Right click the clip and Generate LUT → 65 Point Cube
7. Airdrop that Cube to the iPhone BMD app LUT folder
This LUT works for the viewfinder, but you will need to create one to Rec709 without exposure adjustment for the Media tab
You can also 'Share' a file from BMD app to the iPhone iMovie app which should be identical to if you drop the video into latest FCPX on Mac
I just found out from the app FB group that early installers, like myself, will NOT see the LOG option. You have to delete the app and reinstall it.@@neaumusic
How?
@@mikelannister960 that info is incorrect. You do not have to turn it on. Just delete the app and redownload. That will fix it.
@@mikelannister960 hi! You can find it in through here: settings > camera > formats > scroll all the way down and turn on apple pro res > tap pro res encoding and tap “log”
I’m very excited about Apple Log. ProRes codec produces such huge files that I doubt I’ll use it, so I love that the Blackmagic app offers H.265. That’s what I use on the A7S III for every session. Log footage looks great, and H.265 file sizes are reasonable.
I had a job to cover an event but they had closed sessions that wouldn't allow pro-cameras to film, but they would allow phones! This saved the edit!
The best guide, I’ve seen many, for how to use Apple log with iPhone15 and the black magic app. Thank you really comprehensive.
Thank you so much! Cheers!
Thanks for providing the LUT. Very helpful.
No worries!
SO glad to see a company like Blackmagic making consumer-first decisions.
I’ve been happily throwing money at them lately and as long as they stay away from subscriptions (outside of cloud storage) I will continue to 🙌🏻
Thanks for the overview! I’m transitioning from Filmic Pro for these same reasons 😄
Let's just say a little birdie in a tree told me they will never go to a subscription model. :)
Agreed, in this day and age where companies claw every bit of cash from consumers, it's refreshing to find a company that builds great applications and ecosystem allowing customers to invest wisely.
@@JamieFennI have noticed that the Blackmagic camera app is not as good as the native iPhone camera app in Low Light, do you find this as well, I always record at 60fps and use a iPhone XS.
Filmic Pro was good, now it is shit
I started using this app just to try it out. I immediately got frustrated when my audio (USB mic directly to iPhone) was very low. I was so disappointed I almost deleted the app. Finally figured out that tapping on the audio meter pops up a screen to control gain from the app! I was trying to adjust the gain on my microphone before I figured this out and the gain had to be way too high to get the volume. Now, I think this app will work good for my videos.
Excited to watch the video
Really cool to have a pro camera in our pockets for those unexpected moments! The App is now my fav. Thanks for sharing!!!
It’s amazing. And it’s free!!
Saving it in app also increases the storage
Thank you so much for this awesome video and amazing LUT…
You're very welcome!
like your video，simple and specific
What an awesome video thank you for doing this. Did you try the.H264 setting with APPLE pro res log? Curious to know if that would significantly make the file sizes smaller.
Great video, this was super helpful. Thank you. How do you setup Blackmagic app to record directly to the SSD?
Thank you, your conversion lut is the only one I have found to work properly to convert log to 709 look when shooting in the Blackmagic app. FYI Pro Res 4444 shoots 4 hours in 4K @ 24p on a 2TB ssd at 12 bit! A viable "B" cam for my Blackmagic Pocket 6K Pro..... truly in your pocket ....
Do you think the iPhone 15 pro will be good enough for a b cam? Thinking about selling one of my two pocket 6k to then buy the iPhone. I usually don’t need a b cam but for the odd occasion do you think it will do the job?
@@neaumusic I 100% agree, however usually the “b” cam is an extra angle and not exactly essential. It’s just annoying as it’s just collecting dust as I hardly ever need it, at least if I had an iPhone I’d be using it so much more for stuff like day in the life, or i ever forgot my camera I could quickly shoot some stuff
Great... Very Usefull ✌
Glad you think so!
For anyone struggling to use Apple Log on the BM app and don't have that option after enabling ProRes and Apple Log on your iPhone camera settings, just figured out that if you are migrating from an older iPhone to the 15 and already had the BM app installed it won't let you select Apple Log. Delete and reinstall the app. Bingo!!
Deleted the app and doesnt show me apple log option just HRD apple log. deleted and reinstalled and have colour space in the phone set to log only ?
same here
Same here I only have the hdr on the pro max 15
Amazing
I agree!!
Question for you: I have a new Samsung HDR TV. Should I record in HDR rather than using Log, or can Log be adjusted to be HDR? I notice that you and others are using Rec 709, but I've had to use Rec 2020 in order to use HDR in Final Cut Pro. Can you explain?
Молодец! 🎉
This might be enough to tempt me to upgrade to 15… 😅
looking for explainer on how to send to SSD. You spoke about it but didn't show the menu setup.When I plug in the only options given are still save to phone or folder
Great app! Would love to see presets to be able to have shortcuts on my homescreen.
Great suggestion!
I wish the we could control the iris for better depth of field
What audio interface did you use for the audio in this UA-cam video?
Hey, thanks to the video. How use your lut on app to convert into REC 709 and use after your creative luts? Sorry..
Is the 4.99 lut that you offer any different from what comes with the Camera app currently?
is the LOG video gamma only available on the Iphone 15 Pro Max ? I have Iphone 15 plus dont see the Log option when set the codec to ProRess 422
Can you control saturation??
This app is killer... I wonder if theres a way to get the focus distance... instead of .01 to 1.0.
No 48mm lens in the BM APP is a let down would be amazing to have this as well as the other focal lengths! Zooming in off the back of the different lenses to get around to a 48mm lens is digitally cropping
Just installled now on my 15 pro max and I can't see the option for Apple Log. P3 and Apple Log - HDR
I heard while video recording on the ssd, the sounds are not going to record. Is that correct?
I am using 15 pro max + this app, when I am shooting Apple Log in 4k 60fps, I always get the frame drop alert (all Apple Log Codec alert the frame drop, but H.264/265 won't), and it will stop recording after a minute or longer, and I found out the when shooting with 120mm, it will alert from the very beginning but the main 24mm lens won't(sometimes). Is something happening the same with your iPhone 15 Pro? I have tested the record to an external hard drive ( Samsung T7 2TB), and shooting with a 120mm lens is still showing the alert, is it only my iPhone? I am not sure if it's a hardware(120 mm lens) issue? or a software issue？
Does the BM app have auto focus tracking?
Will not let me change the colour space from Apple log HDR ! to just Apple log, I have changed the settings in the IOS to log in pro res option and doesn't change it ?
Can I ask if the colour grade on tbe main video here is a commercially available LUT? It’s a gorgeous look that I’d love to try on a recent project.
Yes it’s from my FennX lut pack
How do you get the media from this app to Final Cut Pro?
Can i recored log video with Apple prores on 120 fps on this phone ?
Hello, I connected a sandisk m.2 4tb to a 15pro max, it is exfat formatted but I could not see the 444 codec, no matter what I did, it also takes a long time for the external disk to write to the disk while recording and when I save the recording, I have to wait about 10 seconds for it to be recorded again. Is this normal? Thank you for the information.
Anyone got some tips for the audio?
The audio meter only seems to go up by about a fifth of the green bar.
This is the case regardless of if it’s the iPhone mic or an external mic (using a TRRS 3.5mm to USB-C adapter).
Audio playback is extremely low in all scenarios, regardless of audio settings.
Any advice?
Thanks. Wondering about your toughts. I want to buy gear for live streaming and i am looking in to Black magic studio camera G2 stuff but now with the Iphone 15 pro...Do you see a good outcome for live stream with the Iphone 15 pro?
I haven’t streamed with the 15. But if you want better quality and a dedicated streaming camera I would absolutely go with the G2. That little camera is a beast
why i cant change shutter speed of video on iphone? can i change with this app
Hi, would you mind to ask you how you got Prores 4444? Also I see Apple Log HDR on Blackmagic App on my iphone 15 pro. I don't know how to choose regular Apple Log like you. Thank you for your advice in advance.
Same issue ! maybe it was a mistake in black magic because it seems everyone installing it now has the same issue.
My app looks different. I can't select Apple log. I only have Apple Log HDR and it's messing all the conversions up in FCPX. Running 1.1 WTF this has ruined the app. The iPhone camera app only allows 10bit HDR log and BM allowed SDR it seems but now they have updated it and ruined it.
If I use an anaphoric lens will the blackmagic camera app automatically de squeeze my footage?
Any lut for iPhone 13 Pro Max??
Hello Jamie, Which Gimbal is good for shooting in apple log? I am so confused. Could you please give me a suggestion?
There no such thing as a best gimbal for Apple log … log profile is a higher dynamic range better bit rate 10bit a gimbal is for steady smooth shots and a gimbal won’t improve Apple log it will improve movement in your shots !!
when shooting in Apple Log.. I seriously can't see the difference between shooting H265 and ProRes4444...
The one thing I would use is the stabilizer if I am walking. Is it better than the DJI that I bought a couple years ago?
It seems to be just as good if not better
iPhone 15 pro will not see SSD (record too) drive using Blackmagic phone app. Please advise.
🤘🔥🙏
Iphone camera app will recognize my external SSD but BM Camera app wont, any clues?
I wish I knew how to apply the lut to my already recorded video
I released a video on how to colorgrade iPhone footage right after this one using luts
purchased the lut but cant get it off my windows to my iphone 15
I have the app, but it has a few flaws: 1 - not able to select Auto ISO once you lock the FPS; 2 - not able to name the files;
Great video !! I’m going to shooting a documentary with my I phone 14 pro max with Blackmagic App
Should I record in pro res ? It’s a problem for me because my I phone has only 128 GB and I can’t record in Pro res.
I will work in post production on daVinci Resolve but if I will record in HEVC ( H.256 ) how many quality I will lost ? there are a lot difference ? I can do a good work if I shooting in HEVC ( H.256 ) ?
Can you get a cable to record to external SSD?
Hi Jamie, thanks for your video, I was expecting you show how to add SSD to BMC App. The SSD must be formated for apple or can be ExFat? By looking the comments and questions maybe you will not reply or answer this one too... People talk to you, why you dont reply? You challenge people to comment but most of them are without reply...
I get hundreds of comments, emails, dms, and more… a day. It’s tough to keep up now so I try my best. Give me a break.
As far as formatting I’m not sure. I just plugged mine in and it worked. But go ahead and test different formats and see what works. Sorry I didn’t have a straight easy answer for you.
Can you create a custom wb using the color checker?
I don’t think so as of now.
Geeat review! Wonder if we can use it on ip14?
The exact same way I show you here!
@@JamieFenn noted w thx. Any news/prediction that it will come on android too?
Question: How do I save the video with the LUT applied? I applied it for display in the BM app, but export doesn’t show it.
Thanks for your help!
You can't. But Thats why I created this tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/5DWWmlXF9Uk/v-deo.html
Toggle: "Record LUT to Clip" option under the Settings tab in BM app.
How? To record externally from the app??
broo please teach me on how to change my color space to apple log ? how did u even import an apple log to colorspace
I have a powergrade on my online store that I think you enjoy. :)
now that the iphone 15 pro now allows connection to external SSDs, then is it more practical to get the 128GB version rather than then 256GB+ ones?
I want to buy the 15 pro just for the ProRes Log feature btw. thankss
That's up to you honestly...
Just buy a 1TB SSD external hardrive like the Samsung T7 for example and off load onto that when near full or record directly to it
Is there a way to control the f-stop?
Not on iPhone
7:46 You wouldn't need to airdrop. Airdrop isn't good with big file anyways. Just use an USB 3.2 Gen 2 cable to the computer or SSD!
Yes…USB3.2 Gen 2 cable AND SSD; Gen3.2 Gen 2 2x2 (dual lanes) or Thunderbolt will not be recognized by the iPhone 15 Pro (Max)
@@armondobbabone8556 USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 2x2 (20gb) cables works but at USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 2x1 (10gb) single lane speeds.
Uhhh, what happened to prores 4444 XQ on the Blackmagic Cam app? It updated to version 1.1 and it is no longer an option. The highest is 422 HQ? Anyone have a link so I can go back to version 1.0? That is ridiculous.
I saw that too! I don’t know!
Thanks for the info, Jamie. I'm unable to record to the Samsung T7 SSD from BM Camera app. Apple camera app records ProRes Log to T7 SSD no issues. There is little information out there detailing BM App recording to Samsung T7 SSD settings etc. I phoned BM Aust for assistance, no help there what so ever. May I ask what actions or settings you used? Thank you.👍
I noticed that it doesn’t record to my SSD anymore either after the latest update. Might need to adjust a setting in the app or it’s a bug. 😞
@@JamieFenn any updates on this issue?
Same with Black Magic Video Assist.: it works with T5 SSD (Not T7)
Do you think the iPhone 15 pro will be good enough for a b cam? Thinking about selling one of my two pocket 6k to then buy the iPhone. I usually don’t need a b cam but for the odd occasion do you think it will do the job?
of course it is ! you would have a hard job telling this over 6k camera its that good.
Absolutely! I used it as a B Cam two weeks ago shooting in Apple ProRes HQ in Apple
Log as an experiment shooting with a Canon C500 for a commercial piece. Our DP wanted to do it as I had just bought the phone and he was curious. I was the sound mixer on the project. Our DP was blown away and ended up using a lot of the footage shot on my iPhone in the final piece. When you watch the final edit you can’t even visually discern what’s from the phone and from the Canon C500.
Thank you for the informative video. There is no Log option, either ProRes 444 on iPhone 15. It seems that these are reserved to iPhone 15 Pro, and other higher models.
Yea there was an update
@@JamieFenn Thank you for the quick response.
I have the later Blackmagic Camera app, version, 1.200076 on my iPad Third generation, and iPhone 15. This update doesn’t include those formats on iPhone 15. The missing formats are part of Apple specifications limitation on iPhone 15 Standard.
i applied luts in my videos and when i try to save my video in photo library the video is downloaded without luts just the orginal log video how can i download including luts??
i don’t have apple log in color space options on my Iphone 15 pro. do you know why? thanks
You need to change it on your IOS
I’m happy to support you Jamie, but there is a conversion LUT that already comes with the BlackMagic Camera app
Yea I know. I made this before they included it. But thank you!
Wai I don’t get this, my video footage I took is saving to my ssd good, but it’s saving without the LUT that I placed on it? Is that something I have to go in with editing later?
Yep, color correction and color grading on a editing app like Davinci Resolve
Can we use this app to shoot while using a smartphone gimbal like insta360 flow or hohem isteady m6?
Definitely
@@JamieFenn Thank you for the prompt reply, really appreciate it! 🫶🏻
Right now the black magic app has 19 ratings I bet it’ll be super high after this video
haha we'll see!!
I can't find the app??😢
Where do you advise to edit log videos? I mean what program (on pc or also IPhone)? Thanx
See the rest of my UA-cam channel.
resolve and finalcut have the apple log conversion lut in the newest versions
I use Lumafusion on my phone and it's great.
Hello 👋 I’m locked in to 9GB internal storage. I have a iPhone 15 256 with 190GB free space. How can I change this?
Any word on an Android version? Does the app have the ability to create a project file? Allow you to set markers in the footage as you are recording?
It's unlikely id say
Will the photo apps work on iPhone XR? Since the phone only has one camera
What about iPhone 11?
Should work on the XR. Obviously you won't record pro res though.
Quick question:
Can you record Prores to an ssd on the iphone 13 pro max?
I don't know I don't have the 13 pro max
No, you cannot do that with the lightning port on the iPhone 13 pro max. Its a feature of usb c Gen 3. Lightning port cannot deliver enough power to operate any kind of storage drive, even a flash stick.
@@makhosimayisa5800 Disapointing..thank you
60 FPS is missing in the app. Anyone know how to add it back?
How do you get Apple LOG to appear under color space? All I see Is Rec 709 and P3 D65. This is the third video I have watched that glaze over this part. I have a 15 Pro. Any help would be appreciated.
First change it in Apple iOS settings
@@JamieFenn It is tuned on in the Camera settings. That is the first thing I did. There must be some other settings. I am sure I am the first of many who will be asking this exact same question.
i've seen this pop up on the internet, especially if you had the app installed on a previous phone before. reinstall should do the trick@@ImaginetMedia
@@ImaginetMedia what country are you in? I'm in Canada, and I can't see it but I can record Log in the stock camera app, I'm wondering if Blackmagic has some kind of regional release difference or something
@@KyleErickson I'm am in Canada as well. Yes, it shows in the stock camera app for me as weel, but not in the Blackmagic app.
is this app available on android like pixel phone?
Not as of right now
Can you take a photo with this app and how do you do it thanks
No it’s just for video
Hi! Can I shoot vertically? For reels?
Yes
Yes. I show that in the video..
It's a great app, almost forget its' a phone sometimes. Still running into problems of the LUT not baking into the footage when saving it to the phone. This sucks!
Then don't shoot log! haha
Purchased your Luts!!, Can i Ask why my phone only provide with 13mm, 24mm, and 120mm not 50ish option
Also can we directly apply Luts to it while in the App?
Yes. I tell you that in the video.
@@JamieFenn I Choose the Luts in the display LUTs, while taking video the lut is applied to it however, when finished recording in the media file or in photo album still appear as Log file
Is focus peaking available?
Watch the video please…
@@JamieFenn my bad.... just watched! Have you found -1 EV is better with Apple Log. Is there an advantage shooting ProRes HDR over Camera HDR? thanks.
Nope. I just keep it at 0
I wish Blackmagic would support ProRaw photos in Davinci.
Convert to dng
@@JamieFenn, thank you.
Why I don’t are Apple log in the space colors menu? I set apple ProRes 422, 4k and I cannot see log. I have an iPhone 15 pro max.
See pinned comment
Does not work !!! @@JamieFenn
will this work with i phone 15 base model ???
Pro Res will not - but the app will for sure!
I have the same settings but when i shoot the video and click on info it tells me the recording is 1920x1080 and color space is Rec.2020. Why?
same here! I've been looking for an answer for hours. No luck yet.
I don’t have the log option in my 15 pro max…any idea why?
Because you need to go into your camera settings on your phones iOS and turn it on!
I am searching for this answer. If I wanted to shot landscape BUT turn the phone to the RIGHT and have the lenses on the right side, the app only displays UPSIDE DOWN. And when I change the lens choices, the text for that shows up correctly while the rest of the app is still upside down. The gyro does not turn the app to my orientation. Has anybody else noticed this? Or know how to change it? - Thanks in advance.
New app update 10 min ago. Enjoy :)
why is apple progress 4444 missing in Blackmagic camera app?!
Yea I noticed that too. I don't know
I have the 14 pro, so this is for iPhone 15 pro only?
Try downloading the app…
I wish I had an Iphone 15 Pro now!
Do you think there is a way for me to record log videos on the S23?😔
I finally upgraded from my 12 pro. It's a nice upgrade but not much of a difference except the features I mention in the video. Im not sure about recording to the s23
@@JamieFenn Congrats for the new Iphone!
YES. filmic pro has been recording log videos for well over 5 years now. Iphone and Android
@@lamarasamuel there's a difference between apple LOG and filmic pro log. The Apple LOG is noticeably better.
05:08 А что если выбрать 709?