iPhone 15 LOG: A Pro Colorist’s Reaction
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- On sale: BRAND NEW iPhone CINE LUT pack for Apple LOG footage. Designed by pro Colorist Sam Zook (Netflix/HBO) tinyurl.com/4exuntjn
This LUT package includes 15 unique LUTs that contain a dynamic variety of both base-corrected looks and stylish cine-style grades to dial in skin tone and contrast.
Sam Zoom has colored TV series like Netflix' Chef's Table: Pizza and Waco: America Apocalypse and works full time as a colorist at MOM&POP post production.
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Special thanks to Colorist Scott Mcintyre and Brad Neweduk for having me by! Check out Scott's work at: www.smakcinema.com/ - Фільми й анімація
It’s been 3 years since I released a new LUT pack. This time I worked with professional Hollywood colorist Sam Zook in this, specifically for iPhone LOG footage (although I have slapped some of these onto my Sony footage and not bad tbh 😅) We have it on sale right now for limited time to celebrate its release. Enjoy! tinyurl.com/4exuntjn
why color grading not an automatic thing in cameras
@@OVYEDDeno - because as a professional cinematographer/colorist, the person shooting the footage is supposed to have complete control over color grading in post. If you want your camera to color grade automatically, then use your smartphone and shoot in a mode that does all of that for you. Just don't plan on using it for professional work.
@@EnochLightdoes the apple log profile have 10-bit or it’s 8-bit. I see no one addressed that.
@@OVYEDDenothe whole point of log is to NOT have it... you're watching the wrong video bruh just shoot normally
@@ismail-hassan10 bit. I guess they don't talk about it because it tells you right on the settings page
DON'T TOUCH THE SCREEN! 🤣
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Break the screen😡💣💥
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Bro was paranoid. “Don’t touch the screen!”😂
Finally an analysis on the iphone log that isn't made by some youtubers who are far from being professional colorists, thanks for taking the time to ask somes pros and give us your thoughts as well
You think Zy Cheng is just a "youtuber"? lol.. Look at this guy's setup compared to Chengs.. I'd call him the youtuber over cheng - who raved over LOG - any day of the week. And I bet I'd be correct.
@@Stix_ZidiniaHe didn't say Zy Cheng is just a "UA-camr"
@@Stix_Zidiniahow much you want?
I just got the 15 pro max and, as an animator with some background in photography, I think they WAYYYY undersold the capabilities of the updated camera. Holy crap it is so fun and powerful.
Compare it to samsung s23 ultra
All the ads talk about the titanium. I'm thinking... who cares?! 😂
Give some examples ....
@@novankurniadi180recording wise it doesn’t compare
YOU’RE so fun and powerful….
Now I’m afraid to touch my own iPhone screen 😅
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Definitely cool to see that they’ve given some control of the picture back.
I find that if you're working in a Rec.709 timeline, the iPhone Log footage is in Rec.2020 and you need to override the colour space to 709 before applying a Log to 709 LUT as the greens and blues will be overly saturated and look unnatural due to the extra latitude of Rec.2020 in those colours. I got the Apple Log to Rec.709 LUT from the apple dev kit as a baseline and it's great, then I can just work around with that. I'm still testing things, I only just got the 15 Pro Max a couple weeks ago.
Tell me the reason convert any REC to LOG
huge thanks for doing this video! it really covered a big amount of my questions.... keep on doing such good stuff man!
awesome video thank you, first compelling reason I've seen to upgrade
Great unbiased review of things on this video for sure. Crazy set up he has for that grading but when you're working with footage like that I'm sure it's the norm.
Mark, by far the best Video on showing the true benefits of Apple log, well done and thank you. I'm interested in the lots, but I am trying work in a HDR workflow, HLG, HDR, export and wonder if these LUTs work for that, or is it always going back down to Rec.709.
I'm really happy to see smart people in the comments who actually understand what Apple Log is, not people comparing Samsung to iPhone, I'm really learning a lot just reading some comments here, I'm also planning on experimenting with Apple Log soon
Nicely done Mark, great stuff!
Great tips - love this video!
love the blink t-shirt!
The pro iPhones this year are actually pro finally. Really enjoying the RAW images and Video outputs.
Great video! Super informative and inspiring to start shooting log. - super annoying when we all have that friend that cannot stop touching your screens though 😅
Great stuff, Mark! Technology
I appreciate a pro colorist looking at the log footage closely, that exterior night shot was pretty impressive. I still feel that "phone look" to a certain extent but perhaps that's just a huge depth of field?? Additionally, is this something that you could compare head to head against MotionCam to see how it holds up? Since one is log and the other is cinemaDNG it's not a perfect comparison but it should be close, and I don't have either a 40k monitor nor an iPhone to do the tests myself 😅
"Don't touch the screen."
Lol XD dudeee
Your videos are really really great, thank you ❤
Really helpful video! One questions, whats the difference between your iphone luts and your cinema lut pro package?
This was a great video - thanks!
Great work Mark!
Agree completely - the iPhone is not idiot proof. Your phrase "If you want to use it as a cinema camera, you have to treat it as one." The same doubters are mocking Apple for having shot their Scary Fast Event for substation the cinema camera with an iPhone. They think you can walk around and get amazing work. A good videographer knows the limits of his camera and is able to create amazing videos by knowing how to properly use it. So Amen brother - best advice you can give anyone. BTW - I am getting simply amazing and stunning footage off my iPhone 15 Pro Max with BMC app. It has been a game changer for me and I know a lot of other people now are believers. ♥♥♥ BTW - I have several LUTS but I also have a PowerGrade that I use for most iPhone ProRes 422LT footage. You may want to look at developing your own power grade and can use it with LUTS.
Hi Chris, where can i get LUTs for the BMC App?
@@DelgadoRecords one already comes with the app with the latest update. There are some free ones for download and a couple you can buy at a reasonable price.
The power of a reference monitor cannot possibly be overstated. The Sony 310 shows exactly what is there. Without it, little can be reliably accomplished in terms of a final look. It has to be seen to be believed. I feel like I can fly into the images, so perfectly do they mimic what I see in real life. Just like the recording studio speakers we spend car money on, there is no other way to get there.
If your final product is for the masses i'd master it on the most common screens people use.. An iphone...
@@robert7622 thats why you dont master the products for the masses
@@robert7622this happens. What we see in streaming apps is not the same as what we see on big screen. Disney for sure does versions of their movies dedicated for streaming, quality and color wise. The closest to big screen is still BlueRay.
Pro photographers here, can you or someone please please tell me why that Sony is $40.000 Professional Photographers Monitors go for 2500-3000 max. Why the 10X price?
@@youtubestyle293 Because.
Great video! Im planing to buy your Lut pack as soon I know I have the proper tols to shoot in ProRes on my iPhone 15 Pro.
My plan is to film to a SD card but Im not sure if the Card Reader USB Typ-C for SD UHS-1/UHS-II can handle the speed so I have to try out that first.
Blackmagic Camera App does not automatically record to SSD when you plug one in, only the standard camera app does that. It's a royal pain in the a*se that I have to keep going into BMCA settings to tell it where to record to. Hope they sort it out very soon. On a side note the BMCA app did actually trash a brand new SSD and I lost all the footage on that drive. (a crucial X9 Pro 2GB) I Had to reformat it. When I updated my app store review saying about the SSD issue with the BMCA Apple decided to unpublish my review!
Finally an iPhone 15 Pro Log review and analysis you can take to the bank. Thank you Mark and Co. I watched the review on a 65" Samsung QLED so I could watch the video in a bit more detail,
LoL
Great review. What nd filters would you recommend?
This is AWESOME! 🤯
It’s true, screens are so vulnerable, I took my iPhone 12 screen protector off to sell it and stupidity put phone in computer bag along with a bunch of cables, took phone out only a few days later to find scratched screen, so if your reading this and your selling any phone with protection on, leave it on. I’ve taken a fair few log photos with iPhone 15Pm but have not sat down yet to have a go at seeing if I can improve photos, this has inspired me to have a go over Christmas, going to look for screen protector on my Mac now and always touching the screen without trying too 🤣🤣🤣🤣
PS. Very true about the light as photos get a more noise and it’s very noticeable in very low light and holding phone still with longer exposure does help
Thanks for video👌
1:31 You were stressing me out man like don't get so close to it! haha and then he said it
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Thanks!
Remarkable.
Subscribed ! Question(s). Can a 1tb iPhone 15 bypass the need to film with an SSD on the camera body and just off load the 1TB to the SSD when it’s full? And then you’d just need a 1tb iPhone and an attachment for an ND filter and use Blackmagic and internal LUT? If so I’m getting one today!
lol at the guy saying "Don't touch the screen". That would be me
Amazing, I wish I waited for the 15 not go the 14 :-) but from a colourist to say all that stuff it quite a good review on the LOG image that it can do.
I use my iPhone as my main camera but mostly for photography, I tried using third party apps, even ProCam which should be the best one, but always think the level of quality it's not the same as the main camera app (maybe it's my impressions because I'm not used to). Was all this videos shot using a third party app, are they the same quality?
One thing I'm absolutely sure though, the best pictures with the night mode you can possibly get on an iPhone it's by using it's main camera app.
I wish Apple make an update color grade features for coloring the Apple ProRes Log videos in the camera app on iPhone 15 Pro and Max.
What stabilization gear would you recommend for an iPhone 15 Pro Max?
Super cool!!!
But honestly, if you have to add stabilization and in the filters, wouldn’t you rather have your phone in your pocket and just set up your DSLR?
I found out that the Blackmagic application writes some other log, the native Apple Lut is not suitable. Native armor is only suitable if you record with an IOS camera. Do you need other lut for BlackMagic?
This is one of the channels that gave me the courage to start my UA-cam channel 8 months ago about self development. Now I have 1,177 subs and > 1,000 hours of watch time. I know it’s not comparable with others but I’m still proud I started because I’ve been learning so many lessons that I could haven’t learned without getting started in the 1st place.
You missed a real opportunity for using the part of Jurassic park where he touched the screen 😂.
hahah, you're so right!
Great! Work for Final Cut?
is it possible to get the same level of background blur as cinetmatic mode when using the black magic camera app?
Moment Pro app has LOG profile too. I wish somebody can make a comparison between that and Apple LOG.
Why won't you do it yourself?
Do you recommend Apple ProRes 422 HQ over just 422 if storage space is not an option as it's twice the size?
HQ will help you more recovering highlights in my experience but I find ProRes 422 fine for the most part
Great point on “if you want to make it look like a cinema cam, you’ll have to treat it like a cinema cam.” So many “high end” youtubers putting out videos why it can’t replace their main cam and showing some sh!tty vlog footage where they’ve put in 1% of the love in making the video of what they would do when using a Alexa eg. I’d love to see someone like Mark making a feature film with iPhone, even if that means that it will be ready when the next iPhone is launched next year, when the iPhone 15 topic isn’t trending anymore. I know this phone is capable of these things, but somehow no one takes the time to produce something that really shows the true capabilities of the phone.
agreed - would love to see Mark put the working into make a doc with the iPhone
All the luts used in the video are included in the pack??
I don’t understand, why HDR correction? LOG is not HDR. The color space for HDR in Blackmagic Camera app is Rec.2020 - HDR. In any camera you can’t have both, you can choose LOG or you can choose HDR.
Question: I noticed your back magic app had an Apple log 4444 option. I can only get up to 422. How do you access that? I have an external flash drive plugged in. Thanks for the nice vid!
That was the old version, BM removed that feature in the updated app
Hi Mark, I bought your pack but i'm not getting the same file names that you've used in the video! Plus the ones that I got aren't making things look as good as you're showing on your video, please advise.
what was mainly taken away from this film was, DONT TOUCH THE SCREEN! hahah
Outstanding video. But I hated it when you kept touching those screens! LOL! Nice work on this show.
For the record I never touched a screen 😂
amazing
Thank you for the informative detailed review.
It would be helpful to note that the iPhone 15 has no support for: Apple ProRes RAW recording, and ProRes Log, macro video, ProRes 444, and no external recording within these video formats. This might safe some potential buyers expecting these features to purchase the iPhone 15 by mistake.
Did he mistakingly state that it could in this video during that segment?
is there an official apple lut available for download? Premiere pro does not feature it built in
Do you always shoot in log?
something you guys didn't touch on was the motion rendering...everything looks good w/ the phone except the shutter, it always looks like a high shutter speed was used, even when at 1/48. The motion just looks a bit crispy to me. have you noticed this too?
I’ll do some comparisons and get back to you! But yes the image is very sharp especially with quick motion
What is the song used at 5:00? It's absolutely amazing
2:18 «I'm not touching the screen Blyat!»
could you tell the focal lenght of the lens which is recording the talking head part? sth between 35-55?
Hey, can you please test this with the Android counterpart, the "MOTIONCAM" app ? It shoots fully RAW CDNG sequences( 1 second of footage takes around 800MB).
It would be interesting to see iphone 15 pro with apple log vs samsung s23 ultra with RAW CDNG.
Please take this request.
Incredible..all on an iPhone!
hey what external drive was it that you plugged into please? (at 6:28)
Can these outs also be used on Sony a 7iv footage?
Can your LUTS download and edited on the phone or capcut?
Mark - do you have a recommendation for external SSD your using w your iPhone 15 that you can share?
Thanks!
Yes! Crucial X10. Hands down my fav
lol are we not going to talk about the insane dolby atmos setup in the background?
Hi Mark, thanks for a great video. Please, do you have any idea why i do not see an Apple ProRes 4444 in a Black Magic Camera App? iPhone 15 Pro Max. Only 422HQ. Thanks Tomas
updated app removes that feature
Do you think my work with the fx30 match that of a professional
Totally understanding of these guys getting anxious when there are pointing fingers even close to their monitors lol
Is it available on the base model iphone 15?
Hey. How do I import this h.265 footage into davinci on a windows machine. It's not showing up in the media pool and it seems to be a .mov file when I see in a folder on my computer. Whereas in the phone it is a .hevc file. Any info on this would be great!
Can we applied this to regular android camera?
Which iPhone model are you referring to?
Which iPhone 15 gives you the log feature? 14 or 15, and which model regular, Plus, Pro, Pro Max? Thanks.
Iphone 15 Pro and Pro Max only
@@samiramar1271 Thank you.
This was awesome. As a black guy who shoots golf vlogs, im really struggling to find a good LUT that works well with my skin tones. If you could help that would be awesome.
You could always create your own LUT! It's not that straight forward but ya know.
I saw a good video on color grading, but I can't remember what channel it was. Anyway, that diagonal line on the vectorscope is where you want your skin tones to be, and they pointed out that it doesn't matter how dark the person's skin tone is, it should still be on that line. I also find that interesting... we all actually have the same color of skin... just different shades!
Final thoughts about iPhone 15?
"DON'T TOUCH THE SCREEN"
Hello, how are you ? What is your camera on this video at 6:38 ?
Link to that $40K monitor please.. Not that I can afford one in my lifetime but just curious about its specs like delta E, warmup time etc.
Being a Samsung user myself I actually can't wait for this kind of stuff to get to Android, if it ever does. The iPhone was already better at shooting videos before, now it's straight up in another scheme of comparison.
mcpro24fps shoots in log and motioncam app shoots in raw dng videos and photos on android.
Go buy a sony phone or Lg v30 to Lg v60
I haven't owned a single iPhone, but I"m considering switching now!
I’d really love to see someone make a short film with the iPhone 15 Pro series. Just to see how viable it really is.
Apple’s recent M3 announcement event was shot all on iPhone.
After he leaves, “Is that a smear mark? Did you hear me tell him not to touch the screen”
Legends says Mark is still touching the screen
Anybody has a recommendation for good ND filters for iPhone 15? Thanks in advance ❤
Do you get to lock white balance without a pro app? Do you get to choose white balance?
If it requires a third party app, then I can keep shooting on my 12.
You can white balance with BMPC app
According to Gerald Undone iso base is 1250
Do you first use rec709 lut and afterwards cinematic luts?
Yes.
Great video, but I'm sad to see log > 709 LUTs still being released just by themselves as many colorists prefer to have control over their imaging pipeline and would thus prefer LUTs working in intermediate spaces like ACES and DaVinci Wide Gamut Intermediate without a technical transform baked in. I suggest offering ACES and DWGI variants in addition to the plug&play log>709 version for those who are just interested in the creative look you've made.
I would love to see DCTLs instead of LUTs. I never use LUTs anymore
@@michaelavrie Same here... unfortunately creating DCTLs for creative looks is much more difficult than baking something you've made in Resolve into LUTs.
What if you say,,, don't touch the subscribe button 😂😂😂😂
10:45 what do you mean by normal footage? What is not normal with the iPhone footage? Isn’t it a sequence of pictures shoot at define frequency
Hi. How can I activate the prores 4444 codec in black magic? I have iphone 15 pro max 512gb
Actually I found that the blackmagic stabilization is terrible compared to iOS Camera and Filmic Pro. What do you think?
in cinematic and extreme mode? Terrible because it is not effective or bc it introduces motion blur or other artefacts?
Suddenly I want to switch from my Google Pixel to an iPhone!
But what about the finger print thing on the back?!
Idk, android phones have had log from like half a decade ago.
Man's really touchy about touching the screens lol.
At $40K he’s allowed to be 😂
But can you use it as a wired monitor for your camera?
You can on on certain cameras, sony and z-cam for sure