The Harsh Truth About Device.
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
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ok its semi serious. lets talk about devices career!
0:00 - Intro
0:18 - Old dudes and longevity
2:28 - Devices consistent history
4:22 - Gaming gear and a question for you
6:19 - Device from 2017 - 2021
7:02 - Device's big break
8:00 - Device's not so average peak
9:00 - Conclusion
Thumbnails by / daveydemeo
Editing by / vonvorter
Song by / @morteh - Ігри
uploading a youtube video is pretty much my favorite thing in the world so just wanted to say thanks for watching. 😄
next upload next monday! only more cs2 vids when i get home
ps sorry about the audio mix being too loud on this one- von had some mixing gear settings where it didn’t sound as loud. next time it won’t be x
@@launders yo im going need the bkg music, its soo good but the link in the desc doesnt work.
Always a blessed day when you upload. 🙏
Watching Device at blast and it is still crazy for me to see how calmly he holds an Angle and switching to the next Angle in the perfect time to punish the enemy.
it’s that calmness that’s also why he goes underrated somehow. every kill is stress free- insane positional play
that is exactly the reason why the guy is not in the goat debate for most people. the problem is not that he cant hit a flick, but rather the fact that he never puts himself into a situation to have to rely on that. he just plays the game way too efficiently.
@@launders I feel like it's the fact that when you watch Device play you are thinking: "Yeah that looks like something I could do." (the reality is that we couldn't, but it still looks like it). When you watch Simple or ZywOo, you go "Never in a million years could I do that".
@@uros7320 that's also why I don't consider s1mple the goat, coz sometimes I feel like he's positioning himself so he can get a good highlight play, like he's chasing highlights.. he is definitely a good awper ofc, but I feel like he can be a lot better if he play more efficiently
Device is Sergio Busquets of CS
Hey Lau, statistics guy here, if you wanna account for fluctuations, it's better to take the median than the average. Or, if you want to talk about average, always include the standard deviation. It's a measure of how spread out the data is. Anyway, really appreciate the videos!
true thanks, that makes sense. hadn’t thought about that
Median is an outrageously underated average
Good point - I’m a data scientist and I’m an advocate of the median, but if the distribution is normal/ a bell curve, the mean is technically a better average than the median. It all depends on distribution, which is why your initial comment about standard deviation is important.
@@adamchapman3957 I think median would be better for this type of data set given it implicitly "ignores" outliers.
Expecting a 95% confidence interval rejection may be too much, hence mean would be overly weighted by outliers or skew
@oliverpower138 what does median mean isnt that the same as average?
I always get so shocked when so many of these pros / ex pros i've watched since I was in my early-mid teens arent even 30 yet
Spare a though for us old bastards that have been playing CS on and off since 1999...
@@krazed0451 old head fartin dust by nowsee you in cs2
man pressed publish the moment he was done casting god damn
this video is 10/10, been feeling very depressed and just watching this has made me feel motivated in general just getting your vibe lau. love u dude. only 3 minutes in
hope you feel better king
Taz is the longevity goat. Literally played for over 20 years :D
true he went hard
F0rest is one of the longevity goats too, maybe even THE longevity goat. Dude played in an S tier tournament a couple months ago, didn't exactly play well but the fact he can even play in that bracket still at all is crazy considering hes been playing for over 20 years now, and been a pro for over 18. Taz hasnt played in anything remotely close to that tier for like 5 years+
@@Robstrapdefinitely THE longevity goat
When I go to school I see him on the bus sometimes :)
@@Robstrap To me this is why f0rest is still the goat. He might have never hit the same ceiling in raw skill in the same way some other contenders have, but the fact that he's been doing this for so long... Incredible. He plays with such style too, just like s1mple and device you can always tell when you're watching f0rest play.
Since you are a melee fan, there's a video on the Golden Guardian Melee channel where they make a GOAT pyramid, kinda like a tier list but that shrinks the number of spots for each tier, up until the top where the GOAT sits. I think it'd be really cool video a CSGO or even all of all of CS GOAT pyramid
watching now!
I think it’s telling how influential Device has been to the game when almost every pro Awper says they look at Device demos to get better, not only that, Device proved for many years that he was an ice cold killer getting the numbers every major he went to, S1mple had his chances in quite a few major finals, but most times he couldn’t deliver when it really really mattered.
Great analysis, as always. I love playing your videos in the background.
I'd like to see a comparison of the two legends kennys and guardian
W video lau, missing the lau demo reviews hopefully we get to see them soon
Its weird, I'm from R6 and both you and OhnePixel have been making getting into CS incredibly easy... I think because of your personalities and humor. Keep it up
you got into the hobby earlier than most, just remember cases are never worth do trade ups my son
@@gh_3_2 have never bought a single case and probably wouldnt.... even if ohne didnt do cases, i would still love him because of his humor and how he can make anything funny. like i watched his iem cologne 23 watchparty and it was lit
I think that it is unfair to proclaim that because dev1ce was the best player on the best team, he automatically 'carried' Astralis of 2018-19. As a die-hard Astralist fan - and Dane - what was so unique about Astralis was the degree to which it was a team effort; you had 5 players, all equally bringing 100% quality to the table, and thus, in a way,, being 500% of what S1mple or NiKo could muster on their rosters. This is something that reflects a core element of Danish culture, as humility is a huge part of 'Danishness', and I feel that Astralis was a perfect encapsulation of this humility (it's called the 'Law of Jante' if you wanna look into it some more), and to me, dev1ce was not in his own league, but rather the best of 5 players, all on equal footing, no-one being exceptional from one another, and such, it was 5 players all in the same league, that just happened to be topped by dev1ce.
This is the reason that for me, a Danish Astralis fan, it is hard to call him the GOAT, and I feel that it stems from a somewhat unhealthy obsession with finding an individual star, where in reality, it was a team effort like never seen before, and never replicated after.
Appreciate your videos Lau
ur 100% right the team's success was totally based on each other; the other 4 players are also goats, just dev1ce is the goat of goats haha;
U nailed it 👏
every player on astralis did their job very well, they never choked, always put up above average performance and thats it, with perfect team play, you dont need anything more than that, no need for flashy plays or insane clutches, even tho from time to time you would see magisk/device step up or xyp9x clutch in the most outrageous position
Haha no way du bringer janteloven ind i det her xd
As a Heroic fan, I think that the Heroic squad has as much star power as the Astralis roster that went on that epic run. Where the two squads differ is, as you mentioned, humility. Astralis was just the perfect team, perfect org, they never put a foot wrong. Heroic often tends to brag and gloat. Even if it’s lols or memes, it’s still a subconscious effect. I truly hope Heroic can rise to match what Astralis accomplished but I don’t see it happening. From the Americas with love ❤
I swear you should be a sales man lau. I haven't considered changing headphone brands since literally 2016 and your 60 -> 144 hz discussion really made me consider getting AceZone geat. Ill need to let you know if I pull the trigger and thank you for the amazing casting today!
thank you and thanks for the compliment :D
@@launders ofc you are my favorite youtuber! Hope to someday meet you at an event 😎
get some sennheiser 560S's instead
props to the editor, such a clean edit! The aged up player faces are so cursed its great
It look like a snapchat filter 😂
I had no idea how good zywoo actually is until you showed his stats compared to all the other players in the top 5 🤯
Another key indicator of his prowess is with how much ease he frags.
If you see s1mple, he frags like crazy but there is an element of intensity in his aiming that reflects how much effort he's putting in.
Zywoo's aiming is calm, s1mple's aiming is tensed.
@@spawnnpwn4166 s1mple is not tense, but he's way more flicky with his shots compared to zywoo. Different player, different sens, different playstyle
@@davidsantoso2291 He is tense... Plus he plays with a relatively high sensitivity thus requiring a tighter mouse grip.
Anyone that grips the mouse tightly aims tensely.
He is amazing, a prodigy no doubt, maybe the best of them all. But his average is over 4 years, not 7 like the others. He needs to keep performing at the absolute top level for 3 more years before we can say he really stands out from Niko, s1mple and dev1ce. He might do it but it's not obvious he will
He's so efficient at the game that he doesn't NEED to be flashy; his impact is silent but deadly.
love the editing and the music choice but the music levels could be a bit lower its almost overwhelming with lau's voice
Great vid Lau
When you said "before you even knew about Device" you made me feel old, cuz i watched him, xyp and dupreeh since the Cph days, and i'm only 21 now, that is crazy.
Great video Launders as always.
deve was always my favorite pro idk just how calm he plays and also his consistency
Seeing Dev play so good at the moment after such a long break makes me think he is the goat
over 2 minutes of this 10 minute video was a straight ad, hope you get paid real well man.
The editing is on point.
Great video! Would you consider Device "stuck" hard carrying on a team that, while they can win on a good day, aren't ever in the conversation for top contenders? It seems like Astralis made a lateral move in the player shuffle.
As a hockey player hearing picks in t he back of the net on a Csgo gave me ptsd
Two ads before video even with ublock origin dev build, then a built in ad in the intro and finally an ad in the middle of the video. Damn.
Device is simply above simple. More accolades more longevity carrying the best team to ever do it from the best cs naton. Sure simple had a higher peak but to be a GOAT you need the full package. Simple doesn't have that full package. He's not a 4 time, not even a two time. The true measure of stature in CS are the accolades. They are the testament to your skill as a teammate let alone a player. And that's what CS is really about.
After talking about players that took a break from CS, I would love to see a video on Autimatic and his performance after leaving to go play Valorant, or Nitro.
Yeah it's kinda weird how everybody knows device is good but in the grand scheme of longevity not considered the best. Also big up to navi with some fast play loved to see that outta them today.
6:53 2018-2019 Astralis were so good finishing as the #1 team of 2020 was a bad period 💀
As a danish person I feel very represented
Lau man you the goat of cs youtube
love these videos
Great video Lau!
Thank you!!
certified vonvorter classic
I have jumped through the high end gaming headphones for a while. I am currently using the Hyper X Cloud Apha S which I have really enjoyed. Prior to that I used Seinheiser Zeros and have tried Steelseries and Astros. I am wondering if the noise cancelling function on the Acezones is worth the price.
OMG, what a video dude!!! Thank you so much, on behalf of the whole commmunity!!!
ever since i got into csgo in early 2014, device been my goat in my heart
Most likely at present is a monitor upgrade -> 1440p with 180hz+. Currently on 1080p but it's not sharp enough in games. Waiting for prices to come down though. But if a decent large mouse comes out, I'll get that first. Lately I don't see many light large mice coming out, none actually. So yeah.
Headphones-wise, I use good music-oriented headphones, such as the K712/R70X, or IEMS like the Moondrop Kato/Blessing 2, with a dedicated high-end DAC and amplifier. Great for gaming AND music.
I’m a big death adder fan. I loved the v2 pro, just felt the best but the v3 is mint
With those headphones u advertising, can u hear the door on cache being opened when u are t rushing main?
Is there a place we can see all the equipment you use like monitor keyboard etc.?
I’ve been rocking hifi headphones since 2010 or so and yeah there’s many moments when I heard clearly what’s going on but gaming headset buddies had no clue
They’re more expensive initially for sure but longevity is so much better, you can find replacement parts, they’re simpler tech and built better.
1:06 imagine he said nuke
france
Lewl
Congrats you found the song name comment . Its " Make it with you" by Don Julian
Launders, great vid and all, but please tell me - where can I buy this shirt?
Dude I don’t wanna be like Daniel I’m buying acezone headphones right this very second
nothing worse than daniels!!!
Device is my favorite awper it’s crazy to see him still carry Astralis
Nice intro
that ad was nice
thanks just having fun!’
I like the music selection
device is my goat! Thanks launders!!
Just wanted to say - my girlfriend was in need of some new headphones for a while. Decided to get her some AceZones (A-Spire) after seeing your videos on them, and they're awesome man. She's loving them, and I'm low-key jealous!
love to hear that! i vouch for them because they’re honestly the best.
I am supposed to buy new headphones very near future after i submit my PhD thesis
I have Logitech set of mice & keyboard.
I always value a good comfortable headphones as my eye reflexes are not that fast, i rely more on sound
It's also harder to get high stats with a good team, if everyone is fragging on your team that's less people that you can kill, both s1mple and zywoo had to hard carry terrible teams at some point and don't get me wrong they deserve their spots but who can say Device wouldn't have had N°1 stats with a worse team than 2018 astralis?
s1mple with his most stacked rosters of all time still put up #1 stats, I believe there is merit to your statement... but think about it. Dev1ce has been on shit teams since his return and his stats are good but far from great. Meanwhile you have s1mple and zywoo from 2020-2023 playing with some of the best rosters theyve even been a part of, still maintaining a 1.3 rating. They're just in a different league, dude. dev1ce will never be in a top team again IMO.
@@dasauto1555 s1mple in 2023 has 1.18 rating. Anyway the question remain as to 2018 would peak device be able to be above s1mple just for a year?
Btw Dev1ce in 2023 has 1.22 so he's beating s1mple in rating so far this year.
@@MagnusTheCrimsonKing Dev0rce has been playing t2-t3 for most of the year 😂😂😂😂😂 no way you're comparing a team that only made deep runs in t1 events vs a team that only made deep runs in t2 events. Also with this in mind he's up against the worst s1mple we've seen in years by 0.04 rating playing against weaker competition. There's no case for him to be comparable.
this is what i have & i'd like to just upgrade my monitor since im using 60hz but everything else is as follows
keyboard - ducky mecha mini
mouse - glourious model o wireless
headphones - astro a40's
mousepad - xxl cpe mousepad soft/smooth, its big enough for my desk plus it lights up (probably trash but idk i like it)
monitor - hp24f 60 hz
so im thinking about getting a 240hz monitor unless thats overkill
i enjoyed this 10 minute thank you launders
thanks for sayinnn 😃
The link for the song doesn't work:( This background song is heat
I love you, Launders. But god damn i love Device man.
just feeling blessed that it’s close
bro activated the substitles optionals pls
Im more likely to change mice , ive gone down the mousepad rabbithole but i figured out the style of pad i prefer , Im also looking to make the change to 360hz monitor wise ( currently using 240) Keyboard is the one thing i care the least about the switches have to be linear and not super easy to activate & when it comes down to headphones i really feelt what you said with „ you didnt hear that guy?“ used to blame that on myself for having bad hearing but i might just use the wrong headphones :D
i would turn the game loader if i were you
Dev1ce has always been my goat
I felt personally attacked by that silver pop-up.
Great video but, song name??
The worst mistake Astralis ever made was letting both Dev1ce and Dupreeh leave, and then bringing Dev1ce back only. Dev1ce and Dupreeh are the Tomato and Basil of Counter-Strike, separated they're great, but together they are uncontested. No other duo plays as well off of each other than Dev1ce and Dupreeh did. Now, whenever I hear news about Astralis, it reminds me of how 2019 was 5 years ago. It reminds me of how Xyp9x didn't deserve to go out like that, he deserved a last ride with his team so the people would remember his name. It reminds me that my favorite Counter-Strike team sucks now.
Background track is a little like a foreground track if you get what I mean
@launders just curious. How does my favorite caster deal with sweaty palms while playing?
i luckily don’t get sweaty palms. i’ve heard of players getting botox to deal with this!
I want to point out at hobbit's comeback. Became the 6th best player (2021 he was 27 yo) in the world after a huge break.
Hi lau, old fan here. I much prefer the old style of videos where you would talk over gameplay etc. These crazy edited with dizzy background and music just makes it very challenging to actually focus on your incredible thoughts. Keep the videos coming but consider tuning it down a bit :)
haircut is fresh brother
Mousepads is the thing I change the most. If theres something wrong with it I cant play
Ngl I have 5K hours in csgo since 2014 and I'm yet to have a 144hz monitor. All I ever cared about the most improving in my setup was getting good enough fps and ping
those are the two most important priorities for an fps player for sure
Ropz made it to fpl with 60hz monitor, so its certainly possible to play extremely good with just that.
And I'm pretty sure your frametime is exceptionally good so you still have a ton of advantages.
WOOW what a great explanation of things Lauuu
thanks mannee. that’s fair!
8:35 Niko has a very good AWP tbh
well before upgrading headphones i´d think about turning my game volume up.
i think most headphones, even in-ears should be fine for CS:GO as long as you turn the game loud enough to hear what u need to hear.
Sure better headphones = better sound quality, but you really don´t need headphones that are more expensive than your monitor, even if u play on 60hz, lol
Do u take acid on a regular basis?
i’d be interested in a video about which player had the highest peak, or peak goat ig. for me it’d have to be kennyS
kennys is so interesting cause his peak was so high but he never beat #6 over a whole year statistically. though everyone would agree at the time he was the hardest player to play against by far.
Hey Lau, I use a Beyerdynamic dt 770 pro with an external sound card with optimized eq and flattened audio peeks. Do you think there is anything significant to gain without taking ANC into account with those AZ headsets?
i have dt 990s, i use for music. i don’t know how effective your optimizations were but my aspires hear footsteps from farther away. they’re light, super comfortable i prefer the az pads to the velour pads on beyers over many hours personally.
both are comfy though
I did order the A-Spire ones. I will let you know how they compare.
Dev1ce has been my fav player since I started watching cs esports since 2016
good choice
Editing +111
For me headphones are most important always. I can think of many games that I have won over the years thanks to my headphones.
My favourite maps are the more open ones de_lake and cs_insertion2. On these maps you can win most games just by being quiet and listening.
mice never been that important for me tbh. it also applies with keyboards too. headphones and monitor would be my priority for upgrades. most impact comes from those imo.
Atm i would upgrade up head set to iems cuz the surroud auido is my import part and ik headeets are better but iems stil deliver enought and i would also upgrade up mouse pad
i think people really overshadow astralis' 2019 performance by the grand slam run of liquid, Astralis beat liquid that year is i guess every matchup, 2 majors that year anda few other tournaments here and there, 2020 aswell, they ended #1 beating liquid at the iem global challenge, they did win the road rio tournament too if i am not wrong, esl pro league w es3tag (one map down to navi due to their lower bracket run). devve was still the most consistent player in both 19-20, baffles my mind how he never got hltv #1 between 2018 and 2020
song?
My steam named used to be de_vice until device came around and even used that screen name for a while. I'll never forgive him for that.
the second Lau started trying to mention other sports and you realise gaming is just it's entirely own world cut off from the rest x)
But real question to be asked, Is Launders the goat of CS content?
I don't know if there is another list of top players that are more credible but I remember dev1ce being number 1 in the world for a short period of time
I am interested in seeing where device goes from here. He clearly isn't done with the game yet.
That's why you said to Scrawny that Dev1ce could play forever and still be good. Goat shit 🐐.
One day, imma get an acezone.
And thank you one day with a photo of me using one
i look forward to this day!
Device vs S1mple debate is somewhat like debating who is better Bill Russel or Wilt. Wilt being more individually gifted vs Device with better team working collectively to win. It's not 100% accurate but I feel like this comparison makes sense 😅
the most recent piece of hardware I upgraded was the monitor. Went from a still-perfect benq xl2420z 144hz to the xl2540k 240hz and it's really nice. still rocking the hyperx cloud II headset and I feel like I hear everything with that.
key term there is "feel like" my audio setup is approx. 300 dollars I hear a lot of things that none of my teammates hear
@@McCon-hc8oz yeah same here. I call out tons of sounds I hear but plenty of my teammates don't.
next upgrade is mouse or monitor
bro where'd u get that shirt from in the intro 👀👀👀👀
found some our legacy on sale here in cph 🤓
I guess next upgrade for me is going to be headphones after mby my mouse going to wireless and yeah wait no first upgrade gotta be my desk xD
I guess this does not include 1.6 era or anything before that.
Still remember one day playing on Cobble and trying to double jump up, one guy says ' dude jumping slows you down after 1.4( or 1.5) update '.
Them good old college days.
I then took a very long break from gaming to raise myself, finally returned to the game 2 years ago. Everything changed, spraying is easier, skins are expensive.
-One day on a MM match, a teammate asks me why my voice so mature, how old are you bro?
-'23' I lied, cant afford to tell real age so everyone freaks out, and 23 sounds reasonable.
-What the fuck, he says, 'you are fucking old'.
device crosshair placement too clean
also, the song link is broken, which is a shame