Around 2005 I worked at a computer store and found a Voodoo 5 5500 in the junk bin. I asked if I could keep it, I had never seen dual GPUs on a card before. My boss just said he wanted to keep the fans, I could have the card. I've held onto it for years, I had no idea they'd shot up in value recently!
suddenly realized what makes these videos so special: not only nice retro hardware but also the good combination of in game videos, music, comments and some hints from the expert. Keep on doing stuff like that!
Phil, love the attention to late 90's hardware and gaming...something that not a lot of people focus on. Really love the videos and your commentary brings me back to when I enjoyed dealing with the birth of plug n play and all of its quirks. Thanks for letting me enjoy these adventures again! Subscribed!
Going through my late father's drawers and drawers of computer stuff about 5 years after he passed today. Found a VooDoo 5500 nearly perfectly clean in a pile of 1 meg ram sticks and some misc intel cpus from the 70s. Pretty cool stuff. Gotta find a motherboard for the Athlon 64 X2 that was in the pile with an AGP slot and test her out!
Back in the day when I was a heavy gamer this is what we had at the time 3dfx was awesome! I remember playing Jedi Academy on a voodoo 5 back in the early 2000s
The opening of Unreal with the shiney walkway to the castle looks amazing. I totally think the colors pop more with the Voodoo card then any new cards. The 3D aspect looks better to like it looks like you're looking through an eyehole on a door. Now 3D sorta seems flat and only seem 3D if you look around not and moving not just sitting there things all look like a picture and nothing pops like the 3D back then.
Ahhh , Unreal. One of the best games to showcase the 3Dfx. I remember, when I got my Orchid Rightheous Voodoo 1 card. When I crawled through the ventilators, saw the smoke/gas effect, and later the out door scene in Unreal, I was so amazed. This game became an instant classic, and is in my opinion, still, to this day, one of the best Single Player FPS games ever created.
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I've seen a Voodoo5 5500 only once in my life, not knowing what it was, i let it pass D: I cri evry tiem
nice, they're usually more valuable due to rarity, most were agp.... the one I bought the person who owned it used these ugly half inch height fans on it, I bought it because it was cheaper than average on ebay(7yrs~ ago); bought 2 vantech chipset/gpu coolers for it, which were suppose to be red but are more pink(googling seems I'm not the only owner of a limited edition pink edition voodoo 5 5500 :P)..... another bonus that adds value is that it's one of the best cards you can use on an Amiga commodore and it's suppose to be a bit faster than the agp variant although I dunno with certainty
You saved my money! Thanks! I was ready to bid for a well preserved Voodoo 5 5000 AGP, but I saw your video and I noticed that I do have an AGP compatible graphics card with my Socket 462 build that meets the DX9 demands for nGlide to work properly. The Asus A9800XT Limited Edition. I bought it three years ago for only 60 euros. I tested it yesterday... I'm very glad it works great. I have many vintage builds from 386 to Athlon64x2 for DOS and Windows 3.x/9x, (and some builds for XP era with 980Ti and X-Fi) but limited space so I kept only a build with mobile Athlon Barton core cpu, ABit KT7A RAID, SB Live! and Orpheus ISA soundcard for my vintage gaming experience.
yeah same, also I noticed the music in the video showing the old UT is the very same used in UT2004 in one of the onslaught maps? The audio file from UT2004 is CBP2-Valarna-Dusk.ogg when I just looked through the UT2004 install folder.
Wow Phil nGlide looks almost identical to real Glide! You know the really impressive part? The volumetric fog in Unreal looks exactly the same as the implementation on the original voodoos (you can see where you chase the skaarj down the hallway) Which the direct3d renderer never seemed to manage properly.
I had a 5500 when it was released. I eventually harvested it for the fans and threw it in the trash. Mfw I see the price I could've sold it for if I still had it 😢
Vtecification I know. I hate myself for it. That's not even the worst part either. I used the fans for an original Xbox modding project to help with the heating related crashes it was having. after installing the fans it ended up running hotter than ever.
I recently found my Voodoo 5500 in a friggin tote that was in the garage for a decade. Unfortunately it is the AGP version so now I have to decide whether to sell it or try to put together the elusive 2x/4x AGP machine...
Unreal was the game that got me into 3Dfx Glide gaming, and this video is the one that made me subscribe to your channel, it amazed me when I got my first Voodoo 2 card that the reflective ground in the beginning of the game went from basic bland-ness to mirror smooth. The graphics of today's computers/games is by far superior to this, but that was when I became a 3Dfx fanboy, and wish I had kept my Voodoo 5 5500 back in the day, or at least the box...
My dad had a voodoo 5500 in his pc when I was a kid. Currently its in my grandmas pc for playing bridge. just 384mb sd ram and a duron 900mhz at the moment, but good enough for XP and her bridge software :P In its prime my dad had it in a 1ghz athlon with I think 512mb ddr ram, but could have still been sd ram.
You should really put another generic AGP card in your grandma's system ASAP to not put the V5 under any usage unnecessarily. If your grandma moans after some days you'll have revealed the secret that your grandma is playing 3D games when you guys are not looking ;-)
@@retroianer422 lol im replying to an old comment here, but yeah she has a laptop and all, but she has a cd based bridge game that only runs well on windows xp. I do hope to get that voodoo 5 eventually from it. Also her flat screen CRT monitor that still looks great!
Those used to be TOP NOTCH graphics. I remember those days so well... Considering that I grew up with Commodore 64 games, I thought that this was it... the pinnacle of gaming.
I bought a v5 5500 from goodwill computer works 12 years ago for $20 (untested). Totally works but needs new fans I did the nglide thing for descent 3 to vulkan on my laptop
Have you heard of Nathan's Toasty Technology Page? On a page he has called Misc. Windows Screen Shots 2, he demonstrates how it's possible to set up the Voodoo 5 to display in widescreen resolutions, including 1440x900, 1680x1050, 1920x1080, 1920x1200, etc.
I still have my original Voodoo 5 in my closet! I bought it when it first came out and played Homeworld! I also had a Voodoo 3 but gave it away years ago!
I was just about to comment that there is something wrong with your Voodoo 5500 , the fans weren't working and it was probably overheating XD I've use Nglide a few times , while it's great to get the 3DFX exclusive games working , to my eye it doesn't reproduce the same quality a actual 3DFX does, especially the gloss effects in racing games
+HPZeta You're on the money.. 3DFX cards do some unique hardware filtering and blending tricks that haven't been replicated since, wrappers included. I did read on someone trying to emulate it through a custom shader but it still doesn't compare. If you look at the big blue instakill electric beam on dmdeck16 on native glide vs anything else, you'll see the difference.
He needs the power plug plugged in to get the fans spinning. The irony when I bought my 5500 I had to return it cause the adapter was missing no drivers no box and the video card didn't seem to detect properly. So I returned it for a geforce.
Yes, native glide has its own characteristic visuals and artifacts that emulation does not have. An example would be the fade out dithering on some particles. In Quake 3 you can see this effect when the smoke particles from the rocket launcher have almost faded out. Although I think this might be visible only in 16-bit mode, I am sure. On the other hand glide emulation have some features that surpass the native glide like much better AA, higher color depth, higher resolutions and FPS. Emulating 3dfx on a Win98 machine using nglide is an interesting idea but I don't really see the point since you can do the same on any modern rig at a better performance. It is sort of conflicting with the point of emulation versus building a retro machine.
I picked up a Voodoo 5 agp in a pc store that was moving and where selling there pulled parts for .99 cents also a Voodoo 4 pci same price. Both cards work perfect and from time to time I put together a retro system with old Athlon Xp chips and play those awesome retro games. Nglide is also very awesome and I install it on all my modern pc's . Great Video Phil like always. Do a retro build with Nvidia 7950 gx2 that would be really cool.
At the time I had a GeForce 4 MX (rebraneded GF2 Ultra), a fairly average card yet it still beat out the Voodoo 5. But while at the time it was better to get a Nvidia or ATi card, retrospectively 3dfx was the better choice because of it's vast backwards compatability with games written for Glide and the Voodoo 5 5500 happened to be the best 3dfx card money could buy (the very rare and very expensive V5 6000 notwithstanding). And while Glide wrappes can offer resolutions, framerates and filters beyond that of the Voodoo, it's still cool to run the games on actual hardware and see them how they actually were like on 3dfx cards. Hence, for a retro build, a 3dfx card is still very desirable.
Yeah back then they were 3DFX, S3, Matrox, Rendition, PowerVR, NVIDIA and ATI while CPU were Cyrix, AMD and Intel. Pretty tough competition but interesting back then. Nowadays, we just have seen 2 player remaining in CPU and GPU competition right now...
This is close to my specs, I just got need for speed 2 SE to work in 3dfx mode using Zeus glide wrapper. I have a socket 754 athlon 64 3000+ 1gb memory and a geforce 7900 gs 256 mb with windows xp 64 bit. I built the system back in 2005 and has followed me for years, just recently cleaned everything in it.
Really impressed with what I see here, Phil. Can I ask, what A64 model was it? What speed RAM? I used to run a Voodoo 3 2000, the last CPU I paired it with being the AMD K6-III+ @ 560 MHz (112 MHz fsb). I sure had a lot of fun with this card. I was always worried about the amount of heat coming from its passive cooler, however it never blue-screened unless over-clocked. Thanks a lot for sharing your experience :)
Just for information. The V5 5500 AGP is compatible with some Athlon XP motherboards. I have an Asus K7V333 which supports all the AGP voltages of 2x and 4x standards. Paired with an Athlon XP 2800+ @2.08Ghz, the V5 AGP, runs very fast and doesn´t appear to be bottlenecked, even at lower resolutions. This is important for some of you saying it´s better to buy the PCI version.
All these comments and I'm just like, "Why won't either fan on the GPU spin?" If I sound like a dumbass, forgive me, but I'm one of those very late 90's kids that didn't get to grow up with this but adores it for it's unique nature anyways.
I put a cardboard and photo of a Voodoo 5 on top of a GeForce FX :) I then run nGlide, a 3dfx Glide wrapper which adds compatibility with 3dfx glide games :)
***** It blows my mind how old everyone is, yet I'm treated like a little child. I remember playing with my friend who was born in '96. I believe Leafy and NFKRZ are about as old as you, and they're big memes! Seriously! What?!?! How does this work? :O
You know Phil, after years, would you fire back this V5 5500 vs Geforce 2 in a quicker system? Direct 6 for DX9 demanded CPU power, and that leaves me wondering if the Duo has a difference with the A64. The Athlon64 wasn't that faster than the Barton on many old games. Please?
Four questions: - How is DOS compatibility with newer Nvidia cards - especially VESA and VESA 2 modes. The Voodoo 3 for example is excellent in this regard. - Do DOS Glide games work with the wrapper? - I have never seen you using a SB Creative Live card (1024 or Audigy) in your videos, any particular reason? - Do widescreen resolutions work with Windows 98 and DX9 based Nvidia or ATI cards? (Desktop only) With a V3 I never got widescreen modes to display correctly, despite adding the timings manually in the registry - but I am also using a Sony TV as display, there might be additional oddities involved.
It is important to note that newer benchmarks with newer, "pirate" modded drivers showed very high FPSs compared to the Gefroce and even Geforce 2 and 3 GPUs of all sorts in many cases It also seems that the glide api or the wrapper has some overhead, so slower CPU than, say, 1GHZ PIII/Athlon meant that potential was not fullfilled, much like in the AMD case
Hey, my socket 939 Athlon build has a 9800 Pro and could use this! I have the same Voodoo 3 3000 card for my SS7 build that I've had since I bought it at CompUSA in the early 2000s, but I've always wanted a Voodoo 5 and couldn't justify the price. I know there are some efforts to use New Old Stock VSA100 chips to make a frankenvoodoo card, but this works too.
I appreciate your video so much!And if it is convenient for you,I'd like to know the BGMs you've used throughout the video(especially the BGM at the beginning of it).I've scanned the website via the link you listed but I couldn't find the soundtracks that are identical to your BGMs anyway...
About to try this with my Dell XPS PIII with a BX3 mobo and AGP FX5500 256MB. Came here to see what Version of NGlide you used and pleased to see you used the newest one available. After I'm done playing with this system I'll start building a my Socket 939 system.
In the video at 4:18 you stated that you were running the benchmarks on a Geforce FX 5950 Ultra but at 2:55 you reveal a Quadro FX 2000 (right?). I'm building a similar build with a Quadro FX 3000 so I'm a little curious. Probably won't be much difference.
I worked with both cards in this video! The FX 2000, now this is just going off my memory, is the workstation equivalent of the GeForce FX 5800 and the FX 3000 is the workstation equivalent of the GeForce FX 5900. Both have crazy amounts of power for Windows 98 and will smash any game you throw at them.
You're right on the equivalent but the FX 3000 has a loud fan. GF might be a bit quieter. Good reason to have the case under your desk and use headphones.
one has to remember the AGP version of the V5500 doesnt work with most P4 , Athlon XP or any Athlon 64 boards , so if that is the route a person wants to go , he would have to get the PCI version ,which costs even more. I was quite lucky and managed to get a V5500 for about £25 or about 40 US dollars, but thats rare. Quite surprised that Nglide works well on older hardware , I would have thought it needed much beefier hardware.
+lightdark28 Yea so did I :D That was the reason I did this video. I had it on a P4 with a FX-5500 before and it also ran well, not as fast, but on the level of a V3.
I have a few different A3D PCI cards lurking around. Lots of OEM ones which shipped with Packard Bell machines in the late 90's and some other retail ones. I need to sort some of all this crap out. It's getting out of hand...
+TheVanillatech Yea I got organised years ago. I have lots of large storage containers, they are labelled and everything is sorted. So I can find anything very quickly.
I love my Windows 98 Machine. 512 MB RAM, a PIII 1 GHz, and a Voodoo 5 5500 -- with the latter two both being from the year 2000. It's got a later Sound Blaster Live, which might need to be replaced (I'm not sure if I fried it when I plugged an old Sidewinder controller in), and except for the sound card it was made entirely from parts I had on hand. I made it basically entirely for Mechwarrior 3, since that will not run on any modern computers without insane amounts of fiddling, but I found a disc copy of StarCraft and Brood War, and I need to get some classic shooters like Unreal and Quake III.
My first pc was a p3 933mhz, a voodoo 5 5500 and 512ram. Thing was a complete beast in its time. Think it was 99 or 00. Wish I had held onto the 5500, the rest of the pc I can careless about. You should look into the old need for speed games that were actually good back in the day, and also 4x4 evo. It has glide, and it run and looks as good as anything else on a 5500. Those games also have huge amounts of mods. One thing you might want to look in is theisozone, google that click on pc and you're welcome. Pretty much any old game you can think of is there.
out of interest why does it seem to be that you are a slot 1 fan, I found the P3 socket 370 to be really really energy efficient, especially if you go with Tualatin; 30watts+/- from the plug and far more common...
if you mean super socket as in K6-2, far as I know the chipsets on that are a nightmare.... never had any success with one, but didn't go out of my way either; by availability and preference to stability I'd stick to P3, P4(775 preferred, 478 ok), Athlon 64(754 or 939), or Athlon XP at worse..... this isn't specifically aiming for retro, you can go PII but note a lot of boards do not support anything more than 20-30gb for hard drives without poking around for bios updates if at all
Hi, Phil. I'm currently (re)building a V5 5500 retro gaming machine. Since I got an AGP version of the card, if I remember correctly, I have to pay attention to the type of AGP slot as voltages are different among 1x, 2x, 4x and 8x standards. So, I have Matsonic ms8137c motherboard with, apparently, a universal AGP slot (no keying). I was wondering does that mean this AGP slot can deliver both 3.3 and 1.5V and won't fry my V5 (like some P4 boards allegedly did back in a day)? EDIT: I know this can be quite a confusing subject sometimes, so I just need an opinion, really. thanks :)
Yeah, I'll try to dig up an old AGP 1.0 card (3.3V). I already tried a card that draws 1.5V and it works, so now it's just whether this is *really* a universal AGP slot. :) thanks
Yeah, I know, I just didn't have any alternatives at hand. In any case, the card works just fine since this Matsonic board indeed has a universal AGP slot.
I have two voodoo 5500 cards laying around, one of them has the original packaging the other one is missing the heatsinks. And one voodoo 3 2000 pci, and 5 voodoo 2 cards, none of them identical for sli. :/ 2 are almost identical, but one has 110mhz memory the other one only 100mhz. 3 of the 5 cards has 12mb vram.
okay just swapped my old ATi Radeon X850 256mb AGP for my old Nvidia BFG Geforce 6800 GS OC, the system specs for this machines are Windows98SE unofficial SP2 with DX9 MSI 845PE-MAX motherboard 2x 512mb ddr memory dual channel intel P4 2.66ghz Turtle beach Santa Cruz sound card EVGA 450watt 80+ bronze PSU i used rivatuner to unlock the pipes on the 6800gs oc, installed nGlide and 3dmark99-2001SE and ran some benchmarks, 6,005 3dmarks in 3dmak99 1026x768, i dont have a 3dfx voodoo card to compare the visuals with the nvidia card and nGlide wrapper but i can tell you that unreal gold seems to look quite a bit better then the radeon x850 did, im going to install a few more glide games and try to find a working screen capture program so i can do some playback comparisons between the ati and the nvidia cards that i have
yes it is, it can run pretty much anything, and didn't cost me much at all, now that you have shown us nGlide i plan to test some more games from that era, thanks for making this video, i have watched it like 4 times today lol i love retro/early 3d gaming pc's my friends think im crazy for spending so much time with out dated hardware, but these are computer parts and games that i could have never owned when they came out, so i missed out on a bunch of awesome games back in the day, im trying to catch up, keep up the awesome videos, also i would like for you to check out an ati radeon x850 and the 9800pro, those are pretty cheap cards these days and can really pump out some FPS, you can find a x850 256mb agp for less then $40 these days, there is also driver support for windows 98se
"these are computer parts and games that i could have never owned when they came out" That is EXACTLY why this hobby is so cool! These builds feel special, yet cost little. But back in the day they would set you back thousands of dollars. I will definitely check out these ATI cards, but I "started" with older cards and I'm going forward in time. But I can tell you the next card reviewed will be the ATI Rage 128 Pro :)
I recently built a retro pc. Unfortunately I sold off my old voodoo 5 5500 thank you for this video. I miss having glide as an option. However I'm curious what 754 motherboard you are using? I built my system with an msi nforce 2 board and athlon xp 3000 as I couldn't find a 754 board that supported win98se. The nforce 2 is causing a lot of crashing and I'd prefer a more stable board. I also chose a GeForce 6800gt as the 6 series was the most powerful gpu i could find with 98se support. Would this work with nglide? Thank you.
3dfx voodoo 5500, a design for the futur. This card run NHL 2003 without a problem, and NHL 2004 with some minors inexactness....very nothing, the good programmers could correct these little problems. The last drivers offered by the 3dfx community are required.
I have the PCI version, its a Mac card but with the bios flashed (sadly disables DVI). The performance is no different to the AGP version I had originally as the card was pretty much a PCI card in an agp slot
Funny enough I was building up a "sort of OP" Windows XP gaming PC, after my Opteron 185 based machine just ended up being too much trouble to deal with. It makes me wonder if nGlide will work with a Radeon card as well? I presently only have a Radeon 7770 as the best GPU I could spare for said build, though the nGlide software implies it's meant for nVidia graphics cards. Have you had a chance to test it?
The Voodoo5 5500 is a full 2D/3D video card. Both fans should be spinning at all times, in fact the card won't boot if it detects the fans are missing or not working properly.
Based on what we see later, I'm wondering if perhaps that the "voodoo card" we saw was just a paper stenciled over the Quadro card that Phil later reveals to be doing the work?
Hey. I have a 3DFX Voodoo 5 5500 that I'm trying to plug into a motherboard PCIE slot with no success. I'm trying to replace the embedded motherboard graphics (Radeon 2100) on my Win7 32-bit system to play games such as Portal. With embedded, extreme lag lasting more than a few seconds is frequent. Am I supposed to plug it in to PCIE, plug in 4 pin power and plug anything else in? If anyone can answer these questions or direct me to an installation video, please do.
Since when could you ever build a pc with a 5500 on a budget? I’ve been building Pc’s since the 90’s I don’t remember a time ever where 5500’s were cheap. They were expensive at release and stayed expensive for a few years, maybe during the 8000gtx era it might have lost it’s worth cause there was so many powerful cards and a lot of competition that older stuff seemed worthless. Didn’t take long for it to raise its worth again and it’s worth has only skyrocketed since then.
+MrKillswitch88 Hmm, I'm afraid that might not happen. I've seen this in the past with clones or substitutes of retro parts. It didn't do anything to the prices :)
+PhilsComputerLab :C Oh well at least I have manage to hoard some despite the prices, when 3DFX cards are going up like home/property prices it really sucks for people just getting into this hobby.
MrKillswitch88 That's why I'm not getting any more of these cards, but started getting newer fear like 7800 GTX and others :D They are not retro yet and flying under the radar. So you got to get in early. This doesn't help people chasing a V5 of course...
+PhilsComputerLab I found a source of matrox parhelia cards yesterday for $20 shipped, I could send you a link if you are interested. The newer matrox cards look really bad like igp bad specs wise :s
i have a question... i need to select 3dfx at the menu of the game or when i use d3d(on the game) it get the glide api? using nglide of course i mean. other thing is in quake 2... if it works.
wow you took my back p3 350 ,688eb 256 ram 10 gig hd voodoo 2,3,5 19in view sonic monitor and that pc cost me like $2,000 I had top asus mobo Soundblaster sound card the good old days I use to make a new gaming rig every 6 months hardware was changing so fast ,I remember my 1st geforce 3 wow how time change I wish I still had the 6 pc old school I had it got a p3 400mhz still on a compaq pesario I thing I'll make a win 98 pc for my girls to play retro games I still got all unreal,quake,sin,half-life motocross madness 1 and 2
I cared more about game play than visual quality, so 16 bit was never a problem for me, there is really not much noticeable difference, but there is when you go from smooth playable fps to like 12 or those nice little stutters when some explosion effect happens :) nglide does take up some cpu cycles, but with a decent clocked P4, XP or A64 chip, doesn't really matter, plenty of power to spare there. PCI Voodoo 5 5500 would be fun to try on a Core2duo or an I5, something ridiculous like that.
+WaybackTECH Yea it's the same thing with this 16 bit vs 32 bit stuff. You can study screenshots and videos all day, but once you are deep in the game it matters little. Would love to have a PCI V5, but I think I missed the boat in regards to prices. I got mine locally a while ago but haven't seen anything since.
+PhilsComputerLab Quick question, is there any difference between the PCI/AGP variant of the 5500? I did see someone run a v5 6000 with an i7 2600k, interesting stuff.
PhilsComputerLab Upon looking up, far as I know, it suffered the same as the Voodoo 3, by virtually having no difference between PCI and AGP. Still frustrating on how extortionate the prices are at ebay. There's a AGP version going for £350 for just the card alone.
+mrsabidji Ah, what a shame. Just measured the cable with a multi metre. Ring goes to white, exactly the wrong way :( That's for buying audio cables on eBay :D
Around 2005 I worked at a computer store and found a Voodoo 5 5500 in the junk bin. I asked if I could keep it, I had never seen dual GPUs on a card before. My boss just said he wanted to keep the fans, I could have the card. I've held onto it for years, I had no idea they'd shot up in value recently!
@@vardekpetrovic9716 LMAO I do. I just checked ebay, that's insane. I'm glad you said something.
suddenly realized what makes these videos so special: not only nice retro hardware but also the good combination of in game videos, music, comments and some hints from the expert. Keep on doing stuff like that!
+satanicvengaboy Thank you, will do my best to keep going :D
I miss 3DFX and theVoodoo cards.. wish they were still around
Phil, love the attention to late 90's hardware and gaming...something that not a lot of people focus on. Really love the videos and your commentary brings me back to when I enjoyed dealing with the birth of plug n play and all of its quirks.
Thanks for letting me enjoy these adventures again!
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Going through my late father's drawers and drawers of computer stuff about 5 years after he passed today. Found a VooDoo 5500 nearly perfectly clean in a pile of 1 meg ram sticks and some misc intel cpus from the 70s. Pretty cool stuff. Gotta find a motherboard for the Athlon 64 X2 that was in the pile with an AGP slot and test her out!
Did you do it?
Back in the day when I was a heavy gamer this is what we had at the time 3dfx was awesome! I remember playing Jedi Academy on a voodoo 5 back in the early 2000s
The opening of Unreal with the shiney walkway to the castle looks amazing. I totally think the colors pop more with the Voodoo card then any new cards. The 3D aspect looks better to like it looks like you're looking through an eyehole on a door. Now 3D sorta seems flat and only seem 3D if you look around not and moving not just sitting there things all look like a picture and nothing pops like the 3D back then.
Ahhh , Unreal. One of the best games to showcase the 3Dfx.
I remember, when I got my Orchid Rightheous Voodoo 1 card. When I crawled through the ventilators, saw the smoke/gas effect, and later the out door scene in Unreal, I was so amazed.
This game became an instant classic, and is in my opinion, still, to this day, one of the best Single Player FPS games ever created.
I've seen a Voodoo5 5500 only once in my life, not knowing what it was, i let it pass D: I cri evry tiem
I owned one and traded it for an nvidia. FML!
I seen it twice in my life and I own both... one of them is PCI edition
I got the one and only I saw, my brother had it back in the day and finally found it back a month ago and I bought it off him :-) PCI
nice, they're usually more valuable due to rarity, most were agp.... the one I bought the person who owned it used these ugly half inch height fans on it, I bought it because it was cheaper than average on ebay(7yrs~ ago); bought 2 vantech chipset/gpu coolers for it, which were suppose to be red but are more pink(googling seems I'm not the only owner of a limited edition pink edition voodoo 5 5500 :P)..... another bonus that adds value is that it's one of the best cards you can use on an Amiga commodore and it's suppose to be a bit faster than the agp variant although I dunno with certainty
I have one in my Computer ark cabinet !
You saved my money! Thanks! I was ready to bid for a well preserved Voodoo 5 5000 AGP, but I saw your video and I noticed that I do have an AGP compatible graphics card with my Socket 462 build that meets the DX9 demands for nGlide to work properly. The Asus A9800XT Limited Edition. I bought it three years ago for only 60 euros. I tested it yesterday... I'm very glad it works great. I have many vintage builds from 386 to Athlon64x2 for DOS and Windows 3.x/9x, (and some builds for XP era with 980Ti and X-Fi) but limited space so I kept only a build with mobile Athlon Barton core cpu, ABit KT7A RAID, SB Live! and Orpheus ISA soundcard for my vintage gaming experience.
You open up with the best videogame ever - Unreal - You gained my like!
yeah same, also I noticed the music in the video showing the old UT is the very same used in UT2004 in one of the onslaught maps? The audio file from UT2004 is CBP2-Valarna-Dusk.ogg when I just looked through the UT2004 install folder.
Wow Phil nGlide looks almost identical to real Glide! You know the really impressive part? The volumetric fog in Unreal looks exactly the same as the implementation on the original voodoos (you can see where you chase the skaarj down the hallway) Which the direct3d renderer never seemed to manage properly.
I had a 5500 when it was released. I eventually harvested it for the fans and threw it in the trash. Mfw I see the price I could've sold it for if I still had it 😢
YOU MONSTER!
Vtecification I know. I hate myself for it. That's not even the worst part either. I used the fans for an original Xbox modding project to help with the heating related crashes it was having. after installing the fans it ended up running hotter than ever.
awwweeee,all you had to do was solder the fans black wire to the case and it would have ran at full speed,*tear*
awwweeee,all you had to do was solder the fans black wire to the case and it would have ran at full speed,'tear'
I recently found my Voodoo 5500 in a friggin tote that was in the garage for a decade. Unfortunately it is the AGP version so now I have to decide whether to sell it or try to put together the elusive 2x/4x AGP machine...
In 2004 I was shopping for my first AGP GPU. There was a ton of these on eBay back then. I ended up with a 128MB Radeon 8500LE for $20, no regrets.
that moment yo realies the fans arent sping
Unreal was the game that got me into 3Dfx Glide gaming, and this video is the one that made me subscribe to your channel, it amazed me when I got my first Voodoo 2 card that the reflective ground in the beginning of the game went from basic bland-ness to mirror smooth. The graphics of today's computers/games is by far superior to this, but that was when I became a 3Dfx fanboy, and wish I had kept my Voodoo 5 5500 back in the day, or at least the box...
Phil you blew my mind away with nGlide thanks for the link... mate!
My dad had a voodoo 5500 in his pc when I was a kid. Currently its in my grandmas pc for playing bridge.
just 384mb sd ram and a duron 900mhz at the moment, but good enough for XP and her bridge software :P
In its prime my dad had it in a 1ghz athlon with I think 512mb ddr ram, but could have still been sd ram.
You should really put another generic AGP card in your grandma's system ASAP to not put the V5 under any usage unnecessarily. If your grandma moans after some days you'll have revealed the secret that your grandma is playing 3D games when you guys are not looking ;-)
@@retroianer422 lol im replying to an old comment here, but yeah she has a laptop and all, but she has a cd based bridge game that only runs well on windows xp.
I do hope to get that voodoo 5 eventually from it. Also her flat screen CRT monitor that still looks great!
Whoa sweet, this makes me want to build a high performance Win98 machine for classic gaming.
I love the 80's montage music!
Those used to be TOP NOTCH graphics. I remember those days so well... Considering that I grew up with Commodore 64 games, I thought that this was it... the pinnacle of gaming.
Some of the games in fact were the pinnacle of gaming considering the kind of games that come out today.
Ha! My Voodoo 5 5500 is stashed away in a box. Guess I should dig it up.
Yea, they are quite collectable these days :)
I bought a v5 5500 from goodwill computer works 12 years ago for $20 (untested). Totally works but needs new fans
I did the nglide thing for descent 3 to vulkan on my laptop
Have you heard of Nathan's Toasty Technology Page? On a page he has called Misc. Windows Screen Shots 2, he demonstrates how it's possible to set up the Voodoo 5 to display in widescreen resolutions, including 1440x900, 1680x1050, 1920x1080, 1920x1200, etc.
+animegamingdude Yes I have heard of that! Very nice. There are also projects with running them on Windows XP and much newer games.
I still have my original Voodoo 5 in my closet! I bought it when it first came out and played Homeworld! I also had a Voodoo 3 but gave it away years ago!
Gaming on a budget. How funny it sounds today :P
As usual, great video. So pleasant to watch, learn and enjoy...
+vicchopin Thank you!
I was just about to comment that there is something wrong with your Voodoo 5500 , the fans weren't working and it was probably overheating XD
I've use Nglide a few times , while it's great to get the 3DFX exclusive games working , to my eye it doesn't reproduce the same quality a actual 3DFX does, especially the gloss effects in racing games
+HPZeta Haha, retro click-bait :P
+HPZeta You're on the money.. 3DFX cards do some unique hardware filtering and blending tricks that haven't been replicated since, wrappers included. I did read on someone trying to emulate it through a custom shader but it still doesn't compare. If you look at the big blue instakill electric beam on dmdeck16 on native glide vs anything else, you'll see the difference.
+PhilsComputerLab For a moment I thought you had one of the V5 5500 MAC Cards with DVI here and somehow doubted the Budget part.
He needs the power plug plugged in to get the fans spinning. The irony when I bought my 5500 I had to return it cause the adapter was missing no drivers no box and the video card didn't seem to detect properly. So I returned it for a geforce.
Yes, native glide has its own characteristic visuals and artifacts that emulation does not have. An example would be the fade out dithering on some particles. In Quake 3 you can see this effect when the smoke particles from the rocket launcher have almost faded out. Although I think this might be visible only in 16-bit mode, I am sure. On the other hand glide emulation have some features that surpass the native glide like much better AA, higher color depth, higher resolutions and FPS.
Emulating 3dfx on a Win98 machine using nglide is an interesting idea but I don't really see the point since you can do the same on any modern rig at a better performance. It is sort of conflicting with the point of emulation versus building a retro machine.
I picked up a Voodoo 5 agp in a pc store that was moving and where selling there pulled parts for .99 cents also a Voodoo 4 pci same price. Both cards work perfect and from time to time I put together a retro system with old Athlon Xp chips and play those awesome retro games. Nglide is also very awesome and I install it on all my modern pc's . Great Video Phil like always. Do a retro build with Nvidia 7950 gx2 that would be really cool.
Wow, that was one hell of a deal you made!
At the time I had a GeForce 4 MX (rebraneded GF2 Ultra), a fairly average card yet it still beat out the Voodoo 5. But while at the time it was better to get a Nvidia or ATi card, retrospectively 3dfx was the better choice because of it's vast backwards compatability with games written for Glide and the Voodoo 5 5500 happened to be the best 3dfx card money could buy (the very rare and very expensive V5 6000 notwithstanding). And while Glide wrappes can offer resolutions, framerates and filters beyond that of the Voodoo, it's still cool to run the games on actual hardware and see them how they actually were like on 3dfx cards. Hence, for a retro build, a 3dfx card is still very desirable.
My dad worked at 3Dfx an inherited a half-life CD, a voodoo 3, a voodoo 4, a capture card, and a voodoo 5
Omg ! i want to be kid again !
I'll never grow up :D
i still use the fx 5500 graphic card on my old retro computer
sucks that all we have today is NVIDIA and AMD when back in the day we had PowerVR, Matrox and S3
Yeah back then they were 3DFX, S3, Matrox, Rendition, PowerVR, NVIDIA and ATI while CPU were Cyrix, AMD and Intel. Pretty tough competition but interesting back then. Nowadays, we just have seen 2 player remaining in CPU and GPU competition right now...
This is close to my specs, I just got need for speed 2 SE to work in 3dfx mode using Zeus glide wrapper. I have a socket 754 athlon 64 3000+ 1gb memory and a geforce 7900 gs 256 mb with windows xp 64 bit. I built the system back in 2005 and has followed me for years, just recently cleaned everything in it.
Really impressed with what I see here, Phil. Can I ask, what A64 model was it? What speed RAM?
I used to run a Voodoo 3 2000, the last CPU I paired it with being the AMD K6-III+ @ 560 MHz (112 MHz fsb).
I sure had a lot of fun with this card.
I was always worried about the amount of heat coming from its passive cooler, however it never blue-screened unless over-clocked.
Thanks a lot for sharing your experience :)
Not sure man, it's been a few years since I did this video! So if the information is not in the video, I don't remember...
I remember seeing the part at 13:37 at Software Etc and I was hooked into PC gaming ever since.
Just for information. The V5 5500 AGP is compatible with some Athlon XP motherboards. I have an Asus K7V333 which supports all the AGP voltages of 2x and 4x standards. Paired with an Athlon XP 2800+ @2.08Ghz, the V5 AGP, runs very fast and doesn´t appear to be bottlenecked, even at lower resolutions. This is important for some of you saying it´s better to buy the PCI version.
Pentium 4 is a good option. Some mainboards with Sis chipsets support agp 2x.
All these comments and I'm just like, "Why won't either fan on the GPU spin?"
If I sound like a dumbass, forgive me, but I'm one of those very late 90's kids that didn't get to grow up with this but adores it for it's unique nature anyways.
I put a cardboard and photo of a Voodoo 5 on top of a GeForce FX :) I then run nGlide, a 3dfx Glide wrapper which adds compatibility with 3dfx glide games :)
What year were you born? I was born in 2000.
98
***** It blows my mind how old everyone is, yet I'm treated like a little child. I remember playing with my friend who was born in '96. I believe Leafy and NFKRZ are about as old as you, and they're big memes! Seriously! What?!?! How does this work? :O
***** It's just that... idk... where the fuck did my childhood go?
here we are almost 5 years later and these cards are $500+ on ebay.
Man, this is pretty sweet. I never had a Voodoo card but now I wish I had.
You've been killed by a lone Skaarj scout! What a n00b!
Great video though, my 1st comp had a Geforce 2MX however :/ (it was a 1st gen pentium 4)
You know Phil, after years, would you fire back this V5 5500 vs Geforce 2 in a quicker system? Direct 6 for DX9 demanded CPU power, and that leaves me wondering if the Duo has a difference with the A64. The Athlon64 wasn't that faster than the Barton on many old games. Please?
Thanks for the nglide tip! Is there any difference in quality/visuals opposed to actual 3dfx glide? I will have to try this with my old Ati 9800 pro
nGlide can look better and sharper.
Four questions:
- How is DOS compatibility with newer Nvidia cards - especially VESA and VESA 2 modes. The Voodoo 3 for example is excellent in this regard.
- Do DOS Glide games work with the wrapper?
- I have never seen you using a SB Creative Live card (1024 or Audigy) in your videos, any particular reason?
- Do widescreen resolutions work with Windows 98 and DX9 based Nvidia or ATI cards? (Desktop only) With a V3 I never got widescreen modes to display correctly, despite adding the timings manually in the registry - but I am also using a Sony TV as display, there might be additional oddities involved.
It is important to note that newer benchmarks with newer, "pirate" modded drivers showed very high FPSs compared to the Gefroce and even Geforce 2 and 3 GPUs of all sorts in many cases
It also seems that the glide api or the wrapper has some overhead, so slower CPU than, say, 1GHZ PIII/Athlon meant that potential was not fullfilled, much like in the AMD case
that intro...
*fans.exe has stopped working*
Watch again and look carefully :)
Hey, my socket 939 Athlon build has a 9800 Pro and could use this!
I have the same Voodoo 3 3000 card for my SS7 build that I've had since I bought it at CompUSA in the early 2000s, but I've always wanted a Voodoo 5 and couldn't justify the price.
I know there are some efforts to use New Old Stock VSA100 chips to make a frankenvoodoo card, but this works too.
I appreciate your video so much!And if it is convenient for you,I'd like to know the BGMs you've used throughout the video(especially the BGM at the beginning of it).I've scanned the website via the link you listed but I couldn't find the soundtracks that are identical to your BGMs anyway...
About to try this with my Dell XPS PIII with a BX3 mobo and AGP FX5500 256MB. Came here to see what Version of NGlide you used and pleased to see you used the newest one available. After I'm done playing with this system I'll start building a my Socket 939 system.
Id love to build a vintage pc from the year Half-life came out.
In the video at 4:18 you stated that you were running the benchmarks on a Geforce FX 5950 Ultra but at 2:55 you reveal a Quadro FX 2000 (right?). I'm building a similar build with a Quadro FX 3000 so I'm a little curious. Probably won't be much difference.
I worked with both cards in this video! The FX 2000, now this is just going off my memory, is the workstation equivalent of the GeForce FX 5800 and the FX 3000 is the workstation equivalent of the GeForce FX 5900. Both have crazy amounts of power for Windows 98 and will smash any game you throw at them.
You're right on the equivalent but the FX 3000 has a loud fan. GF might be a bit quieter. Good reason to have the case under your desk and use headphones.
this and need for speed III was my childhood, not a damn playstation. ahhhhh so glad
one has to remember the AGP version of the V5500 doesnt work with most P4 , Athlon XP or any Athlon 64 boards , so if that is the route a person wants to go , he would have to get the PCI version ,which costs even more.
I was quite lucky and managed to get a V5500 for about £25 or about 40 US dollars, but thats rare. Quite surprised that Nglide works well on older hardware , I would have thought it needed much beefier hardware.
+lightdark28 Yea so did I :D That was the reason I did this video. I had it on a P4 with a FX-5500 before and it also ran well, not as fast, but on the level of a V3.
Great video! What brand of socket 754 motherboard did you use? And what brand/type of CD-ROM drive?
+David Halligan The motherboard is a ga-k8vm800m. The optical drive is really just a stock standard CD/DVD writer.
OK, thanks!
I think, if you want play glide games, you need 3dfx card. nGlige like a electronic sigarets and air pumped womans - wrong way.
dgVoodoo 2 is my go to wrapper for older direct3d standers and glide for modern cards
i used dgvoodoo 2 to play railroad tycoon 2 with T&L on my 970. GOG bought dg voodoo and puts it in older games so they run on new hardware
I have a few different A3D PCI cards lurking around. Lots of OEM ones which shipped with Packard Bell machines in the late 90's and some other retail ones. I need to sort some of all this crap out. It's getting out of hand...
+TheVanillatech Yea I got organised years ago. I have lots of large storage containers, they are labelled and everything is sorted. So I can find anything very quickly.
I love my Windows 98 Machine. 512 MB RAM, a PIII 1 GHz, and a Voodoo 5 5500 -- with the latter two both being from the year 2000. It's got a later Sound Blaster Live, which might need to be replaced (I'm not sure if I fried it when I plugged an old Sidewinder controller in), and except for the sound card it was made entirely from parts I had on hand.
I made it basically entirely for Mechwarrior 3, since that will not run on any modern computers without insane amounts of fiddling, but I found a disc copy of StarCraft and Brood War, and I need to get some classic shooters like Unreal and Quake III.
My first pc was a p3 933mhz, a voodoo 5 5500 and 512ram. Thing was a complete beast in its time. Think it was 99 or 00. Wish I had held onto the 5500, the rest of the pc I can careless about. You should look into the old need for speed games that were actually good back in the day, and also 4x4 evo. It has glide, and it run and looks as good as anything else on a 5500. Those games also have huge amounts of mods. One thing you might want to look in is theisozone, google that click on pc and you're welcome. Pretty much any old game you can think of is there.
My first PC build was a Celleron 700 (OC'd to ~840Mhz), Voodoo 5 5500, and 2GB ram. It was a Monster! So many fans it sounded like a Jet on takeoff.
Then there's mine coming up:
Motherboard: MSI K7T266 Pro-2U
CPU: AMD Athlon 2400+ (Tbred-B) @2 GHz
GPU: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro w/ 128MB vRAM
Sound: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
RAM: 512MB - 1GB DDR1
Storage: some 128GB CF solution
PSU: ~550W one, dunno yet
A DVD-RW drive and CD-RW drive
Yes, a bit crazy I know but whatever.
I'm building a Voodoo 5500 based retro rig atm!
Waiting for the long ass windows xp installer to run zzzzzzz
XP isn't a good OS for the V5. You should install 98 SE or Me, maybe parallel to XP for multiboot.
Holly molly the trees look so real. How is that possible?!
any recomendations on motherboards for the Voodoo 5 ?? It's not like any MB with agp does the trick because of the 3.3v line the V5 was crippled with.
Slot 1 should work well, up to 1 GHz plenty of speed to feed the V5.
out of interest why does it seem to be that you are a slot 1 fan, I found the P3 socket 370 to be really really energy efficient, especially if you go with Tualatin; 30watts+/- from the plug and far more common...
if you mean super socket as in K6-2, far as I know the chipsets on that are a nightmare.... never had any success with one, but didn't go out of my way either; by availability and preference to stability I'd stick to P3, P4(775 preferred, 478 ok), Athlon 64(754 or 939), or Athlon XP at worse..... this isn't specifically aiming for retro, you can go PII but note a lot of boards do not support anything more than 20-30gb for hard drives without poking around for bios updates if at all
agp 2.0 (socket 370 i815, slot 1 any motherboard)
I used to own a VooDoo4 - being nostalgic.
Strange that there is no video Voodoo 5500 vs Geforce DDR vs Geforce 2 GTS on you tube
Subbed, I like these kinds of shits, reminds me of my childhood.
I owned This card but never got to use it. My pc wouldn't post so I returned the card
Hi, Phil.
I'm currently (re)building a V5 5500 retro gaming machine. Since I got an AGP version of the card, if I remember correctly, I have to pay attention to the type of AGP slot as voltages are different among 1x, 2x, 4x and 8x standards. So, I have Matsonic ms8137c motherboard with, apparently, a universal AGP slot (no keying). I was wondering does that mean this AGP slot can deliver both 3.3 and 1.5V and won't fry my V5 (like some P4 boards allegedly did back in a day)?
EDIT: I know this can be quite a confusing subject sometimes, so I just need an opinion, really.
thanks :)
Only one way of finding out. But I would use a cheaper card to test.
Yeah, I'll try to dig up an old AGP 1.0 card (3.3V). I already tried a card that draws 1.5V and it works, so now it's just whether this is *really* a universal AGP slot. :)
thanks
Yeah, I know, I just didn't have any alternatives at hand. In any case, the card works just fine since this Matsonic board indeed has a universal AGP slot.
Today any FX card but 5200 or 5500 is out of reach also... so sad I'm that late to the party... =(
Cheap?
LOD bias is set way too low in Unreal advanced settings, it should be a positive number and then the textures further away wouldn't flicker.
it is the pci versions that cost a good amount because they are used for amiga and collectors
7 years ago can you imagines?
Time flies.
I have two voodoo 5500 cards laying around, one of them has the original packaging the other one is missing the heatsinks. And one voodoo 3 2000 pci, and 5 voodoo 2 cards, none of them identical for sli. :/ 2 are almost identical, but one has 110mhz memory the other one only 100mhz. 3 of the 5 cards has 12mb vram.
Poor sod.
note that 16bit colour on 3dfx voodoo3 and voodoo 4 and voodoo5 is actually 22bit.
old 3d games looked awesome
okay just swapped my old ATi Radeon X850 256mb AGP for my old Nvidia BFG Geforce 6800 GS OC, the system specs for this machines are
Windows98SE unofficial SP2 with DX9
MSI 845PE-MAX motherboard
2x 512mb ddr memory dual channel
intel P4 2.66ghz
Turtle beach Santa Cruz sound card
EVGA 450watt 80+ bronze PSU
i used rivatuner to unlock the pipes on the 6800gs oc, installed nGlide and 3dmark99-2001SE and ran some benchmarks, 6,005 3dmarks in 3dmak99 1026x768, i dont have a 3dfx voodoo card to compare the visuals with the nvidia card and nGlide wrapper but i can tell you that unreal gold seems to look quite a bit better then the radeon x850 did, im going to install a few more glide games and try to find a working screen capture program so i can do some playback comparisons between the ati and the nvidia cards that i have
That's a very powerful Windows 98 machine you built there...
yes it is, it can run pretty much anything, and didn't cost me much at all, now that you have shown us nGlide i plan to test some more games from that era, thanks for making this video, i have watched it like 4 times today lol i love retro/early 3d gaming pc's my friends think im crazy for spending so much time with out dated hardware, but these are computer parts and games that i could have never owned when they came out, so i missed out on a bunch of awesome games back in the day, im trying to catch up, keep up the awesome videos, also i would like for you to check out an ati radeon x850 and the 9800pro, those are pretty cheap cards these days and can really pump out some FPS, you can find a x850 256mb agp for less then $40 these days, there is also driver support for windows 98se
"these are computer parts and games that i could have never owned when they came out" That is EXACTLY why this hobby is so cool! These builds feel special, yet cost little. But back in the day they would set you back thousands of dollars.
I will definitely check out these ATI cards, but I "started" with older cards and I'm going forward in time. But I can tell you the next card reviewed will be the ATI Rage 128 Pro :)
I recently built a retro pc. Unfortunately I sold off my old voodoo 5 5500 thank you for this video. I miss having glide as an option. However I'm curious what 754 motherboard you are using? I built my system with an msi nforce 2 board and athlon xp 3000 as I couldn't find a 754 board that supported win98se. The nforce 2 is causing a lot of crashing and I'd prefer a more stable board. I also chose a GeForce 6800gt as the 6 series was the most powerful gpu i could find with 98se support. Would this work with nglide? Thank you.
+Christopher Gardiner It's a ga-k8vm800m.
3dfx voodoo 5500, a design for the futur. This card run NHL 2003 without a problem, and NHL 2004 with some minors inexactness....very nothing, the good programmers could correct these little problems. The last drivers offered by the 3dfx community are required.
My dad used to work at 3Dfx he snagged one before he left
I have the PCI version, its a Mac card but with the bios flashed (sadly disables DVI). The performance is no different to the AGP version I had originally as the card was pretty much a PCI card in an agp slot
Funny enough I was building up a "sort of OP" Windows XP gaming PC, after my Opteron 185 based machine just ended up being too much trouble to deal with. It makes me wonder if nGlide will work with a Radeon card as well? I presently only have a Radeon 7770 as the best GPU I could spare for said build, though the nGlide software implies it's meant for nVidia graphics cards. Have you had a chance to test it?
nGlide works with any DX9 compatible video card! So that's a yes :D
I wonder can a Radeon do fog table with the detour through nGlide?
Thnx for the Nglide tip!
why the fans on the vodoo arent running
Think its just a 3d accelerator so wont be used on 2d video?
The Voodoo5 5500 is a full 2D/3D video card.
Both fans should be spinning at all times, in fact the card won't boot if it detects the fans are missing or not working properly.
Based on what we see later, I'm wondering if perhaps that the "voodoo card" we saw was just a paper stenciled over the Quadro card that Phil later reveals to be doing the work?
How is a voodoo 5 budget?
Did you actually watch the video?
In these days, the voodoo 4 4500 is harder to find than v5 5500. The auctions prices for v4 ... are insanes. Thnk you!!
Hey. I have a 3DFX Voodoo 5 5500 that I'm trying to plug into a motherboard PCIE slot with no success. I'm trying to replace the embedded motherboard graphics (Radeon 2100) on my Win7 32-bit system to play games such as Portal. With embedded, extreme lag lasting more than a few seconds is frequent. Am I supposed to plug it in to PCIE, plug in 4 pin power and plug anything else in? If anyone can answer these questions or direct me to an installation video, please do.
Are you kidding? You can put an AGP- or PCI-card into a PCIe-slot!
Since when could you ever build a pc with a 5500 on a budget? I’ve been building Pc’s since the 90’s I don’t remember a time ever where 5500’s were cheap. They were expensive at release and stayed expensive for a few years, maybe during the 8000gtx era it might have lost it’s worth cause there was so many powerful cards and a lot of competition that older stuff seemed worthless. Didn’t take long for it to raise its worth again and it’s worth has only skyrocketed since then.
good day Phil, do u have the link for the intro music?=D
I wonder, did later Voodoo cards like Voodoo 3/5 support DOS Glide for those earlier games?
Overall you could say yes, but for the details check this post and that thread in general: www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=35721&start=20#p308023
I hope this catches on and brings down those crazy prices on 3DFX cards :)
+MrKillswitch88 Hmm, I'm afraid that might not happen. I've seen this in the past with clones or substitutes of retro parts. It didn't do anything to the prices :)
+PhilsComputerLab
:C
Oh well at least I have manage to hoard some despite the prices, when 3DFX cards are going up like home/property prices it really sucks for people just getting into this hobby.
MrKillswitch88 That's why I'm not getting any more of these cards, but started getting newer fear like 7800 GTX and others :D
They are not retro yet and flying under the radar. So you got to get in early. This doesn't help people chasing a V5 of course...
+PhilsComputerLab
I found a source of matrox parhelia cards yesterday for $20 shipped, I could send you a link if you are interested. The newer matrox cards look really bad like igp bad specs wise :s
I'd appreciate that link please! I want to check out the triple screen gaming :)
Hopefully i comes with the breakout cable...
I had this card..remember playin half life for first time usin this card..
i have a question... i need to select 3dfx at the menu of the game or when i use d3d(on the game) it get the glide api? using nglide of course i mean.
other thing is in quake 2... if it works.
Great legendary game using old cards. Would it run on geforce 960gtx, w10?
+Tomasm21 Yes nGlide will run that game fine :) You can also get modern Direct3D renders and other mods.
wow you took my back p3 350 ,688eb 256 ram 10 gig hd voodoo 2,3,5 19in view sonic monitor and that pc cost me like $2,000 I had top asus mobo Soundblaster sound card the good old days I use to make a new gaming rig every 6 months hardware was changing so fast ,I remember my 1st geforce 3 wow how time change I wish I still had the 6 pc old school I had it got a p3 400mhz still on a compaq pesario I thing I'll make a win 98 pc for my girls to play retro games I still got all unreal,quake,sin,half-life motocross madness 1 and 2
I wonder if there's a way to use a Glide wrapper on Linux. Does NGlide2 work under WINE?
I cared more about game play than visual quality, so 16 bit was never a problem for me, there is really not much noticeable difference, but there is when you go from smooth playable fps to like 12 or those nice little stutters when some explosion effect happens :)
nglide does take up some cpu cycles, but with a decent clocked P4, XP or A64 chip, doesn't really matter, plenty of power to spare there. PCI Voodoo 5 5500 would be fun to try on a Core2duo or an I5, something ridiculous like that.
+WaybackTECH Yea it's the same thing with this 16 bit vs 32 bit stuff. You can study screenshots and videos all day, but once you are deep in the game it matters little. Would love to have a PCI V5, but I think I missed the boat in regards to prices. I got mine locally a while ago but haven't seen anything since.
+PhilsComputerLab Quick question, is there any difference between the PCI/AGP variant of the 5500?
I did see someone run a v5 6000 with an i7 2600k, interesting stuff.
I think that the AGP version is slightly faster.
PhilsComputerLab Upon looking up, far as I know, it suffered the same as the Voodoo 3, by virtually having no difference between PCI and AGP.
Still frustrating on how extortionate the prices are at ebay. There's a AGP version going for £350 for just the card alone.
IS that "Voodoo5500 card just a paper? XD Yea, we are talking a budget retro pc!
Is it just me or was the stereo inverted in the Unreal gameplay footage? Cool video anyway. :)
+mrsabidji Ah, what a shame. Just measured the cable with a multi metre. Ring goes to white, exactly the wrong way :( That's for buying audio cables on eBay :D
+mrsabidji I got a 3m optical cable now, so the next time I use a Vortex 2 in Windows 98 it will be a digital recording!
heh... you win some, you lose some I guess. :)
I had this (PCI) with an AMD K62-500 🤣