3dfx Voodoo Banshee Review
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I like the variety of the videos you put up, but I always get especially fired up when I see a video on Windows 95/98 era hardware.
instablaster
"Here is the power supply, which was provided by the manufacturer for free, and by the way, don't buy it, buy something better instead" XD
hahahaha
yes, i was thinking that too. but i think that for projects like this it's fine. those computers draw so little power that as long as it has a 80 plus certification it'
s fine. if he just said that it would not sounds as stupid.
Least he's not selling out!
@@martijn208 from what I remember these old systems pull more power from the 5.5V rail and not 12V rail, many modern power supplies have a low amperage 5.5V rail
@@excess.subiefl0w true, so you need to get some PSU's from 2010 i think. i have one from around that time and it has a decent amp on 5.5V
256MB of SDR RAM was considered monstrous back in the days of the Banshee. Most systems of the time shipped with 64MB, some still with 32MB and 128MB was kinda high end. I don't really miss the days where we needed separate video cards for different functions, it just made everything too cluttered and made an already expensive PC even more so, especially if you add an MPEG 2 card.
amen brother
Again... I saw P3 Slot Type, SD RAM, AGP Video Card, PCI And ISA in a Green Motherboard... Have my Like and Love!!!
For a short period I thought the motherboard was Asus P2B-F.....
Yes! More vintage reviews!
That Clive Barker game running at 800x600 is pretty damn impressive considering the hardware.
Thumbs up for Clive Barkers Undying benchmark.
I was rocking a 486 until 2002, I could only dream about this. 🙂
And i thought i was late with my socket 7 i still used in 2001... hehe
I had my 486 until 2000, not knowing there were other cpus. To me they were all just computers and i thought everyone had this very same computer (sporting a 486). When my bubble burst, 1Ghz Pentium 3 was out already. Imagine my shock. I felt like a caveman.
I was rocking 100Mhz Pentium until 2001, then upgrading to some 400Mhz Celeron. For some time I had more ram on my GPU (Geforce 4 TI 4400) than my system :D
@@PaintsAreOp the gf4 ti an amazing car for its day
@@jessed0308 If only it had dx9 support... 😞
First card I bought with my own money! Paired it with a p166mmx, didn't know any better, still had a blast!
that was huge back in the day
Very nice review, as always! I had no Banshee card in 1998, because I was the owner of a Voodoo 2 12MB at this time, but a friend of mine had a Creative 3D Blaster Banshee PCI in his Pentium MMX 166 system. The Banshee is a nice card for a AMD K6-II/III, or a slower Pentium II.
hi there :) my first 3d card was a bashee on a K62-450 cpu, then upgraded to a voodoo3-2000 and to K62-533. Pentium 2 450 has plenty horsepower for these videocards and they were sronger for games than amd k6s family :)
anyway i could play every game in the late 90' early 2000.
But i remember these cards were not perfectly campatible (or not at all) for games released for the first generation of 3d fx voodoo cards
voodoo banshee was my first 3d card.... a giant leap from a 4mb vga videocard :D
Same!
@@shadowsniper86 also same
Same, I bought one put it in my P90 OC to 100Mhz, and later pushed it in my Celeron 633, later I switched it out for a Geforce 2, Great Times
I couldn't stop smiling. All of those games were like state of the art at the time, all the time tweaking and pushing our systems to get just a little bit more lol. Thank you so much for the memories. 👍👍🙂
You're the first creator i've seen cover some of the oddities that i actually had back in the day, this is awesome!
this GPU is just 25 days younger than me
and it still works
That would be 2 things that still work. :)
RIP 3DFX you were swallowed up by the GREEN machine.
And now it's very possible AMD will swallow the green machine
@@metalmusic1401 They allready bought ATI thu. Who is doing very well lately selling chips to both new Xbox and Playstation.
Well they definitely didn't help themselves out by buying STB and bringing everything in house and in the process leaving all of their board partners out to dry. A lot of them just went over to make Nvidia cards. Also the delay of cards like the Voodoo5 5500 (and the 6000) really hurt them as well. Instead of competing with the original Geforce 256, which is did well against, it had to compete with the GF2 GTS, which was generally faster overall and competitive price-wise.
@@smbu Got one for sale, BTW
sadly 3DFX killed themself when they decided to be the own manufacturer of cards and flip off all the AIB partners... that's one of the biggest reasons they died + a failing card/chip
I had a Creative 3d Blaster voodoo banshee back in the day. Loved it! So many good memories... It was my first proper 3d accelerator. Before that I had a Diamond Stealth 2 s220.
Creative 3D Blaster Banshee was my first 3D card as well, was great
jimmothy79 Same here. I remember getting the C3D Blaster Banshee to play Slave Zero back in the day
i had that banshee too
I still remember going to the computer store to buy this accelerator card, I was buzzing about it, I bought a new game also to go with it, the Star Wars rogue squadron, very fond memories
I still remember what the store looked like, they asked me if I was sure I needed a PCI version, because AGP was becoming standard, but my MB with a P90 was not up to that, still the best upgrade and buy I ever made.
I actually upgraded a Voodoo 1 setup to a Banshee, back in the day. The quality loss from the passthrough cable was actually pretty serious, especially if your VGA didn't have a very high quality DAC, to the point where high resolution Windows was noticeably blurry. At some point I remember just swapping the cable from one card to another when I wanted to play a game.
Personally I've found the cable you use to pass the signal through also matters - Poorly shielded / overly long cables will decrease image quality significantly.
Ah, Voodoo
This was my very first 3d card back in the day. and wow, did it ever kick some ass!
Saw one of these locally for a decent price but never thought it was worth picking up. Now seeing the price they're going for here, and the performance actually being somewhat okay I wish I'd investigated it a bit more. Cheers for the great video on it.
Yea anything 3dfx is now worth top dollar.
Voodoo Banshee was kinda... controversial. While a very good card on it's own, it wasn't stricte upregade from Voodoo 2, and in card that was relased 8 months after Voodoo 2. People just uderstand that Voodoo Banshee was relased with OEM market in mind, and they tried to keep price as low as possible. People at this time already expected next generation stuff, or at least noticable improvement over 33fx previous architecture. Also Voodoo 3 was already in development, so Voodoo Banshee was designed with relatively short lifespan in mind. But if you wanted to both buy Voodoo 2 and improve your 2D card or wanted to buy new PC with Glide support, it was indeed decent option.
Another excellent video!!! I never had a Banshee I had its much slower older brother the Voodoo Rush, in fact I still have it. I found it downstairs next to the Voodoo 3 3000 that replaced it back in the day.
Thanks for giving the banshee some love. A creative 3d blaster banshee was my first decent 3d card and it was night and day.
I know ide cables are necessary here.
But man , I don't miss those!😄
Cool video Phil.
Xx
I had a 3dfx Voodoo Banshee back when it was first released. It was paired with a AMD K6 200 mhz overclocked to 225 mhz (3x75 instead of 3x66.) I kept the card when I later upgraded to an Intel Celeron 300A OC'd to 464 mhz (4.5x103.) The card did not like games that used the Quake II or later game engines since they used multi-texturing heavily but other games like Need For Speed 2 & 3 ran beautifully on it! Plus as Phil mentioned the DOS gaming performance (along with Windows 2D) was outstanding on it! I later replaced the Banshee with a 3dfx Velocity 100 card (for really cheap) which itself was a cut down Voodoo 3 2000 card.
Cyrix 686 233Mhz, 32MB RAM, Voodoo Banshee, and Yamaha OPL3-SA. This was my very first gaming rig I have built. I was so damn proud of it.
Wohoo banshee, one of the famous card in my circle back in the day. Thank you this review bring back the memories, like you have to bring your own cpu just for LAN party and compare the video card or vga card in our terms.
3dfx will always remain special for me.
This videocard was my first Voodoo Banshee card,too bad i got it 5 years ago,not when it was still relevant ☺
800x600 still feels high-res to me lol.
Occasionally I like running things windowed @ 640 x 480. Haven't done that in a while though.
Fantastic review, back in the days my banshee was Asus 16 mb, and as I remember it was very nice in all games and very compatible with glide dis games unlike v2, and I really remember very good memories with the card playing Shadowman, thanks for your review.
Got to love old pc hardware to see how far we came from 😊
Amazing work!
Thumbs up!
When I watch such videos I feeĺ 20 years younger. And thanks for your clear English, I am practicing it following you.
Watching these brings me back to my unreal tournament days. So many good memories
same
I have the same CPU, GPU and sound card about to go into a system. nice timing! and great EP too!
oh I remember those times when graphics cards did not have fans and processors had chipset fan. Pretty different computer experience than today's i9 9900k setup XD
My Banshee, Magic Twinpower, had a small fan on it. To be honest Voodoo 3 should have a fan too as it runs really hot.
@@PaintsAreOp Personally I run my Voodoo3 with a small 12V 40mm fan on the top - keeps it really cool, the CPU actually seems to run hotter than the Voodoo now!
Thanks for this awesome video. I have both Voodoo Rush and Banshee, but I wish I had a Voodoo 3 for retro gaming.
Can you please write in the video description the list of games tested?
How well would Banshee work in a Slot A mobo with Athlon 550MHz cpu?
Never had the pleasure of a banshee but rocked my Voodoo2 SLI with memory overclocked at 110mhz for a long time. Loved games in GLIDE, they looked so nice.
Great video :) Idea for another one - punching above weight. 90's were a period of time when you basically had to update your rig each year to play new games. Try to get a P5 MMX CPU, overclock it up to 266/300, combine with 64 MB of RAM and Voodoo 2 or Banshee and try to run "newer" games. I played hell a lot of Q3 Arena on my P166@200 MMX/32 MB/Voodoo Rush. Of course with bots and on very low framerates :)
P55C. P5 first 60 and 66MHz Pentiums released in 1993.
@@mstcrow5429 Ah, ofc - I tend to forget about that. Thanks!
I used this back in the day. It was great for its time
I ran 2x Voodoo2s and a Banshee as the 2D back in the day.
This brought back more memories. Thanks Phil! The first PC I built back when I was about 16-17 I had a Pentium II 266 MHz and a Diamond Fire GL 1000 pro. It was a decent card but Half-Life came out and it didn't support the game so I got a Banshee and Half Life went on to be my favorite game of all time. That and Counter-Strike because I was really good it. Those were the days. 10 GB hard drive was big! 20 G was HUGE. lol
Yea Half-Life is such a great game for the time!
Actually overall the Voodoo Banshee was just as fast as the Voodoo 2 or Tnt1, it was a lot cheaper than the Voodoo 2 and Tnt1, it had a better picture quality 22-bit then the Voodoo2 and Tnt1 and had much better compatibility than the Tnt1. In my opinion the Banshee was the best 1998 video card.
Yes I agree. It was ground breaking, bringing full Glide/D3D/OpenGL to the desktop for a reasonable price. I think I remember them retailing at about £120 new, it was my first 'decent' 3D card. Before that I had the Matrox M3D which was the poor mans voodoo :)
@@Storm_. I remember that at the end of 98 or early 99 the Voodoo Banshee was 100 $ and the Voodoo 2 and Tnt1 were aproximately 150 $. The price difference between the Banshee and the Voodoo 2 / Tnt1 was big but the overall performance was aproximately the same.
I had a Riva 128zx. What a crap this was. This and intel i740 was like rock bottom for gaming. Yuck!
My first 3D card! I forget if any particular game inspired me to buy one, but I remember playing Unreal, Quake, and Half-Life back in those days - it was a super exciting time to be a gamer.
It always makes me smile when I see ram modules that are made in my hometown.
Great video, and also congrats on being featured in Linus' latest video. :) Cheers!
Awesome video! I enjoy playing around with vintage Windows 9x era hardware and its fun to see these items brought back to life and shared with others via your channel. BTW, for those of us who built our early IT careers on Novell Netware, its especially cool to see a 'Novell Yes' logo on the motherboard! :)
So I guess you'll know the game Netwars :-)
@@armorgeddon absolutely... :)
This was my first graphics card for my first build (my dad had some ATI Rage cards and Diamond Matrox cards too).
had this beast and loved it
great as allways!!! thank you!
Ahh what nostalgia!
I had a Banshee2 (I think) in my first computer in 2000.. But I ran a AMD K6-2@233mhz (??) then i believe.
Cool to see the old hardware today, thing have changed a lot since then!
My first HDD had less mb/gb than a gpu today..
Always fun to mod and upgrade hardware, this i how it began for me.
Keep those good old nostalgic reviews and test up!
Yhea , I have waited for years in the channel to this review to came.
It was at my setup as teenager and did save the world so many times from Aliens invaders, Demons and Powermongers.
All thanks to my beloved Banshee and His sidekick,, the AMD K6-II
Good video... and am I the only one wondering what the trace layout people were smoking putting the FDD socket there?
Wow! The Banshee was the first accelerator I ever had. I had the one made by Creative Labs. Good memories.
I had this card. I loved this card back in the day over the early Nvidia and ATI cards.
There is a reason why Voodoo Banshe was what it was. 3DFX wanted to expand to both OEM Market and low-end customers, where expensive add-on cards are not exactly desirable option. Voodoo Banshe was relatively cheap stand-alone video card with excellent 2D and video performance - so it was exactly what they wanted at a time. It was also easy to update in case they need another filler product (they did - Voodoo 3 was basically Voodoo Banshee with higher clock speed and additional texturing unit).
My first Videocard! Althought It was the Maxi gamer Phoenix Version by Guillemot.
Yes, finally again full "retro" stuff. Slot 1 is or rather was my first solo build, as a 13 year old :)
I had one of these when they were hot. What a great card it was back in the day.
And since I got a like from you Phil, thanks for the great videos. This old nostalgia stuff is hitting me right in the feelz. Great stuff man. Really enjoying the content since I found your channel and subbed.
My experience of the banshee and voodoo series in general back in the day :
Drool worthy cards that I could not hope to buy in a thousand years. :p
Every magazine spoke about them and all I had was a 233mmx with a s3 virge
Loved the ZFG "Review" of the PSU!
I had one back in the day. Worked fine.
@PhilsComputerLab . Where do you get the setup rigs from? I mean the mechanical construction in where you mount the stuff so neat..
On my gosh! Expendable! I had forgotten. What a great game that was. Used to play that on a Number Nine Revolution card--I think I still have it.
I went with the Voodoo 3 2000. It was what I needed at the time. I enjoyed it. That was on a Pentium II 350. My PIII 1 ghz had a Geforce 2 MX and my Athlon (Thunderbird) 1ghz had a GeForce 2 MX as well. 96-2000 was where gaming really started to heat up on PC. So much so I was finally OK with letting go of my old Amiga and Consoles and game on PCs as my primary source of fun. Great vid. Brought me right back.
Good choice, the V3 is really my personal favourite.
Banshee was a really popular card when it came out. The value was amazing.
I'd love you to check out something like that Rendition Verite cards. and maybe some of the first gen PowerVRs! (I've seen you cover the Kyro, but that was a bit later)
Awesome! Loved it!
Phillip what is the name of the test bench that you use ?
Hey Phil! Great video, as usual =) Can you share what video capture card you're using? (for the DOS capture)
I have two Ensoniq Banshees...the SGRAM variant. Recently testing these in a build that I normally have a V5 5500 in and I am extremely impressed. While it is no V5, these cards (at least the SGRAM version) really hold their own. They ran everything I threw at them from the time period, and really looked and performed great. The 2D on these cards is even better than the V5 IMHO. All around fantastic card that I would be proud to have in a vintage Win 98 3DFX rig.
First 3d GPU I ever owned. Loved that card...
Owned this card back in the day. Had to have a box fan blowing in my case to get through the lan parties compared to everyone else running the voodoo 2 and 3 cards.
Back in the days I really enjoyed Voodoo Banshee, I knew it was just an interim product of 3dfx, I'm glad that they did an excellent job, not only it maintained the high compatibility of 3D games, but it also combined very high quality of 2D display, much much better than Voodoo Rush!!
By the way, is the game Incoming compatible with Windows XP? Recently I tried to run this game on my retro gaming PC, the OS is WinXP, and the display card is GeForce FX 5600, as I tried to run this game, it ran unexpectedly slow. Is there a patch to fix it, or should I find the GOG version?
What would be the Ultimate Beach house Vacation or as you lot say it Holiday take with you to a house gaming all night MS-Dos or Windows 9X computer. Either a built in screen or portable screen. That would be a cool thing to try out.
Had it. Loved it. My first 3d card. Fond memories of HL and TFC on it. PCI.
MY CHILDHOOD! Nostalgia is real. 33K modem at 350 ping. Mom: "get off the internet, I need to call!"
Thief 1 and 2. Especially the last! Ooooh yeah!
+1 for MatroxG400's.... I love those cards.
Do you know if drivers for the Creative 3D Banshee 6750 AGP card are available? I looked around and am not sure if any exist or if the ones I saw on your site or vogons. Thanks!
Never actually saw a Banshee in the wild back then, I remember people always said it wasn't that great and everyone I knew just went for the 12MB Voodoo2 (or two of them). Good to finally see a real world review :)
As soon as I heard "3DFX Voodoo card" I clicked the "like" button!
Thank you for advising Voodoo 3 for video. I am building my DOS-compatible Win98 dream machine.
It shall have Intel 440bx chipset, Celeron 1300, Voodoo3... I am not sure about the sound...
Should I opt for OPL3 SoundBlaster 16?
A Sound Blaster 16 is a very solid choice!
Me: Clicks on video... Hits pause... Hits like... Hits play... Thank you Phil!
Have you tried to see if your banshee has a 2nd (disabled) tmu . Phil . I believe some can be re-enabled in software
Does anyone know what the jumper block and female ribbon cable connection header was for, I can't find any info on them
My first 3d accelerator was a Banshee. I bought it with birthday money when I was 13. It turned the family PC with it's Pentium 233 MMX into a gamer. This combination did a good job with Jedi Knight, Motoracer, NFS 3, Half-life, Wing Commander Prophecy, Freespace, NBA Live 99, Unreal, etc....
I had forgot about Undying by my favorite Author....ill have to check out GOG for it..Glad you included it..and nice shot at the PSU company...made me laugh for the first time today
Yea I use the GOG version actually!
Hey Phil, How do you get a heat sink to attach to a chip that doesn't have some means of fastening down. I am actually at a loss on how they do this.
I like this test bench does it have a review or model.
can we have that batch file that auto-installs Win98??? Thanks
What about the ALL IN WONDER ATI/AMD RADEON Graphics card as you can have a RF Video out,The P2B-B motherboard should work also but you need the AMD Version of that chip but you do get a adapter called a slotkit adapter.
I have a Creative version of Voodoo Banshee for PCI but after 10 years from the date of purchase it stopped posting to me 2 months ago and the computers can't see it after plugging it in. I don't know what the problem is
I loved that card so much, 'Incoming' with its crazy colourful graphics.
I'm trying to find a the original GTA to play on Windows 10, Rockstar used to have a version on the site but its been taken off. Anyone got any ideas?
web.archive.org/web/*/www.rockstargames.com/classics/gta.html
@@danielberrett2179 Thanks, i did try that one but i think all versions are broken maybe with the new version of Windows 10.
3rd card I ever bought, my first two where VideoLogic Apocalypse 3D PowerVR & VideoLogic Apocalypse 3Dx PowerVR. I loved my P166mmx machine, I overclocked it to 200Mhz!!
I always liked Incoming wonder if I can play it on Windows 10 again with higher resolution if possible.
I loved that card , i ran Return Fire 2 game using this card., i had this card a long time. Awsome Card
One of the best things about Unreal is that, with patch 2.26, it supported all major 3D graphics APIs of the time : Glide (since release), OpenGL and Direct3D. It also included a software renderer. I remember tinkering with my Celeron 300A@450, my RivaTnT 16 Mb and the Detonator drivers a LOT so as to make stuff like the castle flyby (intro) and the rocket escape (outro) as fluid as possible. I had a few 3dfx cards, but I must admit that as fast as they were, the comfort brought by 24-/32-bit color as opposed to the dithering found on 16-bit cards like the Voodoo really did help. So did a 32-bit Z-buffer, with all the depht artifacts you'd get on a Voodoo compared with the crisp intersecting polygons of other cards.
you ever run into issues swapping a slot 1 CPU out too much? I do the same often, and I am afraid of wearing out the contacts in the slot or something. Getting ready to purchase a voodoo 3 3000 agp card, debating whether to pair it up with my slot 1 PII 450 system, or my P3 1000 system.
I got my Banshee around its release date in PCI flavor for my P233 rig, It played anything I threw at it! I only upgraded in early 2000 because I came across a new Boxless OEM Voodoo 3 3000 for $35 when the computer fair was in town.