Touhou: The Early Years

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • today's video is brought to you by Gexuma, fabled fan edit creator turned main channel editor! thanks very much for all their hard work on this project.
    to anybody curious, the touhou series is divided into 2 different eras of games... the first 5 run on an old Japanese pc architecture that requires an emulator these days. these games rarely get talked about so I figured as a newcomer to the series it might be fun to actually start with the first few games as few Touhou players do!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 656

  • @phabulouz5991
    @phabulouz5991 Рік тому +3330

    It’s official, grayfruit has played more touhou games than most touhou fans

  • @makenshao9886
    @makenshao9886 Рік тому +1545

    Seeing old, out of the way games like these being played is rather fun, it's like we're doing some archeology

    • @kaulis6524
      @kaulis6524 Рік тому +16

      You described it perfectly

    • @tigertoxins584
      @tigertoxins584 Рік тому +2

      More like modern anthropology

    • @waffleisyummy
      @waffleisyummy Рік тому +18

      It’s like we’re going back to the past, to play some shitty games that suck ass perhaps

    • @FamilyTeamGaming
      @FamilyTeamGaming Рік тому +15

      To be fair, while these games are a bit "out of the way", their association with the Touhou series pretty much guarantees nobody will forget them. The third, fourth and fifth games even have bit of a fanbase, considering.

    • @makenshao9886
      @makenshao9886 Рік тому +5

      @@FamilyTeamGaming Eeeeh, I mean, old games just don't get talked all that much after their time in the sun on release already passed.
      Specially when the games are on languages not widely available to the western world and more obscure software that usually has less robust emulators like something like the NES.
      When I played Evo Search for Eden for the pc98 I had to some manual fiddling to get the game to work and every time there's some little hurdles that say what you can do these days, of buying an old game in gog or steam or a virtual console you're losing bits of people who might be interested, but not interested enough to put the effort to fiddle with sometimes quite fiddly emulators.
      While the pc98 games are more known because of their association with windows Touhou, I'd say it's fair to call them obscure because the barrier of entry for the average schmuck to get interested enough to play them is quite high compared to like, just finding a download of EoSD or buying the games on steam, as I'm sure there's a large contigent of Touhou fans themselves who aren't aware of these games aside from them existing if it wasn't because the series still counts them for the numbering and surface level info that is available on the various Touhou wikis.

  • @grfrjiglstan
    @grfrjiglstan Рік тому +1033

    I've never seen such a drastic variance in stakes in a game, where the bad ending might mean the end of the world, but the good ending might mean you smell good from now on.

    • @Mordecrox
      @Mordecrox Рік тому +148

      I mean I would take the risk, world damnation versus saving $20/month on body care

    • @LieseFury
      @LieseFury Рік тому +57

      that's pretty standard for the rest of the series

    • @sleeper6548
      @sleeper6548 11 місяців тому +3

      @@Mordecrox Nawww, I would rather choose World damnation over $20 per month, for body care

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople 8 місяців тому

      play Touhou

  • @tacticiansam5039
    @tacticiansam5039 Рік тому +185

    Here's a fun fact. Zun is a great artist when it comes to physical art. He just doesn't know how to make digital art very well, even now.
    Also, the characters' ages are nebulous due to his art style. Though it's generally agreed that Reimu is an adult, because she drinks alcohol and Zun doesn't like underaged drinking.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Рік тому +25

      Ages are very much a non-factor in Touhou because it is whatever Zun wants it to be. Sumireko still does not drink, even tho she should be an adult by now.(Unless it is a stated thing that Doppelgängers don't age)

    • @mousysaint9143
      @mousysaint9143 9 місяців тому +8

      @@lpfan4491 Drinking age is 20 in Japan, so even adults can't drink for a little while and Sumireko ain't THAT old. She's like 18 max.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 9 місяців тому +4

      @@mousysaint9143 She was like 15 when she entered the series and more than 5 years passed since then.

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople 8 місяців тому +12

      the l0li-looking characters are kinda umcomfortable, but other than that, i like playing Touhou

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople 8 місяців тому

      @@lpfan4491 wow

  • @djdexcat
    @djdexcat Рік тому +470

    The early Two-Whomst'ves really radiate that "experimental indie game" energy. Hell, even the basic breakout clone has a pretty unique identity to it.

  • @Sleepy_Kitsune
    @Sleepy_Kitsune Рік тому +804

    i was absolutely NOT expecting greyfruit to play ANY of the touhou games, let alone decide to do them in order

    • @Taitosalad
      @Taitosalad Рік тому +4

      Dude same.

    • @FemMushroom
      @FemMushroom Рік тому +77

      It's GrAYFRUIT. Of course he'd do it in order.

    • @testhekid
      @testhekid Рік тому +5

      ikr, last thing id expect is him starting with touhou 1

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 Рік тому +5

      ​@@testhekid ikr? The majority of people believe that Touhou 6 is the first one

    • @testhekid
      @testhekid Рік тому +3

      @@ironmaster6496 me included, lol

  • @RexBlanchimont
    @RexBlanchimont Рік тому +467

    I'm sad that the Yuuka attempt was cut off the earliest, I feel like the reaction to her line of "Genocide is just a game" would've been... interesting

    • @steepslopesmm2
      @steepslopesmm2 Рік тому +22

      same that's my favorite line in the series

    • @Absolute_LUNA-C
      @Absolute_LUNA-C Рік тому +40

      he completely missed it in the original stream

    • @MeltedSherbert
      @MeltedSherbert Рік тому +64

      i was searching the comments to find someone talking about how unhinged yuuka was in the pc98 games and lo and behold i found someone with a matasoup yuuka pfp

    • @notloopers1110
      @notloopers1110 Рік тому +7

      heyo matasoup yuuka is hot as fu- i mean uh is based af

    • @f.u.m.o.5669
      @f.u.m.o.5669 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@steepslopesmm2Mine is "Dog meat"

  • @magicannon6285
    @magicannon6285 Рік тому +124

    The reason for the common perception of powercreep amongst Touhou characters is that within canon, we actually don't know for *sure* how strong anyone particularly is. Most characters are youkai, and want to come across as strong, so their powers are **self defined**. For example, the character Remilia Scarlet is a high class egotist vampire and claims she has the power to "manipulate fate". We have literally never seen this happen in any way, and she also lied about being a descendant of Dracula, implying she's inclined to lie.
    All fights in touhou are essentially playfighting (maybe more akin to fencing?) where characters fight with spell cards, where every bullet is just like, an airsoft bullet. It's very rare we see anyone trying to actually KILL or anything.

    • @lyrebird5982
      @lyrebird5982 Рік тому +27

      but she might be telling the truth as her sister does actually have a really powerful ability. So both Scarlet sisters having busted powers would make sense.
      The probable reason why Remilia never uses her ability is it would most likely be considered "cheating" in a danmaku battle

    • @FlippinEgg
      @FlippinEgg Рік тому +49

      i hear you, but consider: it's funnier if she just straight up lies about it

    • @lyrebird5982
      @lyrebird5982 Рік тому +29

      @@FlippinEgg damn brat, tricking an adult
      lying about your power, mesugaki vampire correction
      💢💢💢😭😭

    • @Homodemon
      @Homodemon Рік тому +10

      @@lyrebird5982 disgusting...

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Рік тому +14

      Meanwhile Flandre who definitly has the power to kill and just won't because she lives the basement neet-life:

  • @crowyo9137
    @crowyo9137 Рік тому +251

    32:49 "bitch you in the most honk shoo pajamas I've ever seen" is one of the funniest things I've heard in so long.

  • @ProbablyBarney
    @ProbablyBarney Рік тому +206

    33:07 i really admire grayfruit's ability to finish his sentence with a perfectly consistent tone before reacting to some insane shit

  • @collinbloo
    @collinbloo Рік тому +243

    If Touhou was so good why isn't there Threehou

  • @badabingee
    @badabingee Рік тому +269

    The Jerma joke was too real. Both him and Joel don't like shitting on bad games, it's real funny.

    • @Countdownsmiles
      @Countdownsmiles Рік тому +31

      I feel like Dan from Gamegrumps is another example

    • @polocatfan
      @polocatfan 11 місяців тому +13

      I mean it depends on the game with Joel.

  • @chimken135
    @chimken135 Рік тому +490

    the funniest part of the toby fox touhou thing is that he says "indie games" with a japanese accent literally seconds before saying prawject

    • @SlyHikari03
      @SlyHikari03 Рік тому +38

      Toby breaks accent.
      I mean, he’s trying his best.

    • @sansprobus7209
      @sansprobus7209 Рік тому +25

      @@SlyHikari03 I'm sure that takes more effort than just staying in the accent.

    • @SlyHikari03
      @SlyHikari03 Рік тому +6

      @@sansprobus7209 yeah…
      I mean..
      You never know with Toby..

    • @bloodakoos
      @bloodakoos Рік тому +6

      induru games

    • @marisakirisame867
      @marisakirisame867 10 місяців тому +2

      Yep the prawwjekk

  • @LeBakaBoi
    @LeBakaBoi Рік тому +175

    I’d like to acknowledge that a portion of twitch chat was absolutely livid that grayfruit was playing the touhou games. It was very funny.

  • @guysome7469
    @guysome7469 Рік тому +170

    Fun fact: in Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream, the final boss, Yumemi, on lunatic difficulty, is programmed to never get hit until you die at least once. She is regarded as one of the hardest Lunatic bosses to this day.

  • @locusmomus
    @locusmomus Рік тому +212

    TOUHOU?!
    The notificación appeared and I literally got jumpscared
    I can't belive Grayfruit is playing Touhou, im so happy
    Edit: Funny Video, loved it, I hope Grayfruit continues,my fav games are probably not coming soon but I sure hope my boy enjoys the next games enought to make more 2hu content

    • @gremlinman9724
      @gremlinman9724 Рік тому +7

      dont worry, he played the bad ones.

    • @maybelookinaround
      @maybelookinaround Рік тому +6

      @@gremlinman9724 💀

    • @Archibaldh1pp0
      @Archibaldh1pp0 Рік тому +5

      I have never seen someone type 2hu and that's amazing.

    • @Just.Kidding
      @Just.Kidding Рік тому

      The two-hoo thing is ironic, right? Like, I cant tell whether or not people know it isn't pronounced that way

  • @KazmirRunik
    @KazmirRunik Рік тому +94

    5:05 You'll notice that this song ("Now Until the Moment You Die") from a game made in the mid-90s starts with the same lick as Dragonforce's "Through the Fire and Flames" released a decade later.

    • @SlyHikari03
      @SlyHikari03 Рік тому +6

      Holy shit.
      I’m not the only one that noticed that.

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP Рік тому +3

      Even their names have similar energy to them

    • @Just.Kidding
      @Just.Kidding Рік тому +1

      It's def not the same, but the first few notes are similar

    • @adamofblastworks1517
      @adamofblastworks1517 11 місяців тому +3

      Oh, I know it as "Time Will Tell"

    • @MrMetal-xe8lg
      @MrMetal-xe8lg 16 днів тому

      ​@@Just.Kiddingyeah that's what they said

  • @ToyoshiG3
    @ToyoshiG3 Рік тому +46

    i like how he noticed "totle" but not "HARRY UP" flashing on screen 18 times

  • @kannakamui1023
    @kannakamui1023 Рік тому +29

    Grayfruit being bad at the game
    The Game:
    You Need to Kill Yourself **NOW**

  • @Glennjamyyyn
    @Glennjamyyyn Рік тому +43

    " *Project.* "
    - Toby Fox

    • @kirimusse
      @kirimusse Рік тому +5

      Actually, he said it correctly; Touhou Project's official name doesn't use the japanese word for project (whichever it is), it actually uses "project" even in its original language. Moreover, this is weirdly common in Japan; Smash Bros in japanese still uses english terms too, such as "Game Set!" instead of simply "Game!" in english.

  • @kingbash6466
    @kingbash6466 Рік тому +203

    Man, I wish more people covered the PC-98 era Touhou games. Most of the community sorta forgets about them until someone brings up Mima's existence.

    • @Sleepy_Kitsune
      @Sleepy_Kitsune Рік тому +7

      well i mean, they are arguably non-canon even tho thats still debatable, and they are pretty easy compared to the later games more intense bullet patterns

    • @Discopope
      @Discopope Рік тому +52

      @@Sleepy_Kitsune You say that its pretty easy but I legit wanted to rip out my fucking skin on Touhou 2's extra stage

    • @Sleepy_Kitsune
      @Sleepy_Kitsune Рік тому +8

      @@Discopope i meant as compared to later games, bullet hells are always a challenge in general

    • @FamilyTeamGaming
      @FamilyTeamGaming Рік тому +4

      It's also because out of the 5 games,
      One of them is HRtP, which isn't even bullet hell, so most people ignore it on principle,
      The next is, SoEW, which close to nobody likes,
      Then PoDD, which.... Has a very small but dedicated fanbase but I'm really not entirely convinced many care outside of it care about it that much,
      And then finally you get LLS and MS which are alright games, but still not many would play it because of the accessibility of even playing them to begin with, on top of the fact people might not necessarily care for how the design of the series still needed many layers of polish even that late on.

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 Рік тому +6

      The saddest thing is that it has arguably the best villains of the series: Yumemi, Shinki and obviously Mima.
      And i mean actual villains not misguided or literal antagonist (they're still great characters nonetheless, just not evil)

  • @thecloudwyrm7966
    @thecloudwyrm7966 Рік тому +74

    Having heard so much about them, I just realized I have literally never seen a single clip of actual Touhou gameplay.

    • @locomokuu2471
      @locomokuu2471 Рік тому +36

      The bullets are eye candy for viewers, a hellish labyrinth for players. Both perspectives are enjoyable!

    • @HyperVanilo
      @HyperVanilo Рік тому +8

      Either the YT algorithm or you're actually not that interested to search the gameplay

    • @ScarlettTheFemboyLover
      @ScarlettTheFemboyLover Рік тому +6

      I guess I should formally welcome you to touhou! I hope you enjoy your stay☺
      ps: don't forget to bomb

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP Рік тому +2

      @@ScarlettTheFemboyLover Or charge/trance/glitch-exploit, if available

  • @Bigboss-_
    @Bigboss-_ Рік тому +91

    Can’t wait for thouhou the prequel to fouhou

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP Рік тому +1

      Don't forget houhou and souhou!

  • @strikermodel
    @strikermodel Рік тому +150

    For anyone confused about the story, all touhou bullet hell fights are a special type of non-lethal duel between yokai to settle disputes.
    . . .in hind sight, this seems to why, in Undertale, the monsters release magic bullets as communication, and can't hurt one another with them.

    • @minhkhangtran6948
      @minhkhangtran6948 Рік тому +107

      well, that lore is only established in the Window era. In the PC-98 one however, it's the fucking free-for-all hellscape no-rule-allowed kind of bullshit there.

    • @residentfacehead3465
      @residentfacehead3465 Рік тому +21

      fix the typo before its too late.

    • @bruhman9018
      @bruhman9018 Рік тому +40

      >nonlethal
      Definitely not in the PC98 games buddy, they shoot to kill in those games

    • @SpencerFelix21-390
      @SpencerFelix21-390 Рік тому +7

      as @residentfacehead3465 says, the typo needs to be fixed @strikermodel since that is a not nice parody name of Undertale. I can't say more ok? Just know that typo is unfortunate.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Рік тому +1

      It's too late... 💀

  • @Hazelnut51000
    @Hazelnut51000 Рік тому +110

    Oh boy, Gexuma and Touhou, along with Grayfruit? A delicious mix for certain

  • @Flygoniaks
    @Flygoniaks Рік тому +42

    Pretty convenient timing; the demo for Touhou 19 released a few days ago, and it actually brings back the 2-player gameplay style from Touhou 3 (and 9) into a more modern game.

  • @kirbykirisame1366
    @kirbykirisame1366 Рік тому +115

    This… was a crossover I didn’t expect.

    • @eros2652
      @eros2652 Рік тому +4

      He’s mentioned the series offhandedly on occasion in VODs, so I did figure he’d get to the Touhou games eventually; but somehow seeing him play them still feels strange… excited to see what he thinks of the windows-era games, though, and if he’ll try any of the spin-offs/fighting games and such. Probably not, but you never know.

  • @LtSprinkulz
    @LtSprinkulz Рік тому +71

    As someone with no attachment to this series, besides being a fan of early YPTMVs and hearing a ton of U.N. Owen covers, I'm excited to go on this ride and see what the buzz is about.

  • @magneticflux-
    @magneticflux- Рік тому +57

    2:25 I _think_ it's a super compressed and zoomed-in section of either the Mandelbrot set or a cross-section of the Julia set (some kind of fractal pattern, there are many online explorers if you want to find the exact location). Not biological or anatomical, but similar structures do arise in nature.

    • @HyperVanilo
      @HyperVanilo 11 місяців тому

      That's the gate to Makai, the demon world

  • @stheteller7470
    @stheteller7470 Рік тому +39

    I hope the "smell good" ending becomes a running joke in grayfruit

  • @GoodrichT6
    @GoodrichT6 Рік тому +52

    It's so cool that they made a whole game series based off of that one music video

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP Рік тому +1

      And that it, itself, has good music

  • @AKAProm
    @AKAProm Рік тому +25

    I say this with complete sincerity, I love Touhou 1's visuals. The whole game is so enthralling but those visuals are what I live for.

  • @thomasulrich3107
    @thomasulrich3107 Рік тому +12

    8:48 so we’re just gonna ignore the game told us to “Harry Up”

  • @Glory2Snowstar
    @Glory2Snowstar Рік тому +34

    Saw the Beetlejuice musical last night, HIGHLY recommend.
    I know nothing about Touhou but yeah it was pretty cool I have a Sandworm friend now :)

    • @moxy1296
      @moxy1296 Рік тому +7

      Idk what that has to to do with anything but I'm so proud of you Flaherty

    • @Glory2Snowstar
      @Glory2Snowstar Рік тому +6

      @@moxy1296 It doesn't because I know nothing pertinent to the video's topic
      Also thanks I will water them every day :D

  • @BierBart12
    @BierBart12 Рік тому +20

    I thought the first games were like lost to time and unplayable at this point, holy shit
    I love that Zun was already a good composer

    • @Dukstless
      @Dukstless Рік тому +9

      Nah, they're still up there if you know where to look. Some people even went the effort to get the actual PC-98 series computer.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Рік тому +5

      They argubly should have been, really. Touhou 1 and 2 in particular barely sold and they are the least popular of these games. Under the same circumstances, many other games would have become lost media, they got lucky.

  • @Helmotz.
    @Helmotz. Рік тому +28

    Glad to hear that about Gexuma she* makes excellent edits !
    Does that mean there won't be fan edit of grayfruit on the other channel ?

    • @Gexuma
      @Gexuma Рік тому +29

      I still plan to continue making fan edits! I've made a couple since the King's Field video, the main reason there hasn't been more is just because I have a lot to do at the moment and less time to do them in.

  • @calvin139
    @calvin139 Рік тому +16

    I like that gray now puts visual aids of references he makes. Very good, very helpful, less esoteric

  • @AzuriteCoast
    @AzuriteCoast Рік тому +19

    Gexuma, I don't know if you'll see this, but this is some seriously solid editing

  • @itryen7632
    @itryen7632 Рік тому +40

    Finally a Touhou streamer who doesn't bombard me with useless information about how a character's decapitated head is allegedly a huge meme in japan

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP Рік тому +10

      Yukkuris?

    • @SledgeHammerGai
      @SledgeHammerGai Рік тому +14

      Hey man, take it easy!

    • @syrelian
      @syrelian 10 місяців тому +1

      Its not decapitated, its just a head, the same way a smiley face isn't a decapitated head

  • @charbomber110
    @charbomber110 Рік тому +19

    I promised myself to never interact with Touhou content ever so I could make a game called "Touhou but I've Never Played Touhou" and this video released while it was in development and I am so finally glad that after finishing the game I get to watch yet another Grayfruit masterpiece.

  • @shanghai_doll
    @shanghai_doll Рік тому +20

    I was not expecting grayfruit Touhou, but i'm not complaining. It's also nice to see PC98 again, it's been a while since I've played these games...they're quite charming for their place in the series.

  • @DerangedDurain
    @DerangedDurain Рік тому +9

    I know Grayfruit said that he won't play ALL of the Touhou games because that would be completely unreasonable, but I hope that he gets Lark to play the Touhou fighting games at some point, like their street fighter streams.

  • @kirimusse
    @kirimusse Рік тому +6

    ZUN: don't upload the endings to the internet.
    The fandom: Why?
    ZUN: _Uh…_ Because they should be earnt by beating the games by yourselves…???
    The endings: *Somehow, Reimu being crucified by Marisa*

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Рік тому

      Zun:"Fans should translate the games, I know I couldn't."
      Also Zun:"Fans are not allowed to upload the endings online, even in textform."(Which is required for fantranslations)
      Fans:*Hurt in confusion*

    • @kirimusse
      @kirimusse Рік тому

      @@lpfan4491 To be fair, uploading a translation patch isn't quite the same as uploading the endings online, since you still have to beat the game to watch them.

  • @givadiva9289
    @givadiva9289 Рік тому +21

    Holy Grayfruit Gexuma crossover! Love their fan edits, glad to see them become a main channel editor!

  • @maragazh9993
    @maragazh9993 Рік тому +20

    it is impressive how u maintain commentary while playing these games

  • @Rumble_Pak
    @Rumble_Pak Рік тому +8

    Lmao, in the first game it actually says 'HARRY UP' instead of 'HURRY UP'

  • @JARGUN145
    @JARGUN145 Рік тому +23

    Was waiting for the first edit, thank you for this Gexuma

    • @ldsguy9080
      @ldsguy9080 Рік тому +2

      Greetings fellow gungeon fan

  • @spongebobfan78
    @spongebobfan78 11 місяців тому +4

    40:08 For how long has the Touhou fandom existed and with how many English-speaking people are in said fandom, it's surprising that I've only seen like two or three "fanarts" (Deviantart edits) that actually use that joke.

  • @stlngds
    @stlngds Рік тому +16

    Gexuma moving on up in the world!

  • @radiotomatosauce99
    @radiotomatosauce99 Рік тому +3

    Am I going insane or did it say "HARRY UP" in touhou 1

  • @Officialencode
    @Officialencode Рік тому +8

    it blows my mind that folks hated the first games visual. i think they have an incredible charm; esoteric and ominous behind a veneer of cuteness.

    • @FamilyTeamGaming
      @FamilyTeamGaming Рік тому +6

      I'm inclined to half agree. HRtP has a very "nightmare-core" aesthetic that's completely unique to it. It wasn't even carried over into the sequel. If you treat the background art of the game kind of like trippy paintings then they're absolutely fascinating like that.
      It's just that admittedly they're a bit of an eyesore as you're actually playing the game, which is especially compounded by HRtP just overall playing weird in general.

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP Рік тому +2

      To this day I still appreciate HRtP for how eerie it is. It especially fits as the first Touhou game, where Spell Card rules aren't established, and Reimu's still very young and inexperienced but has to go to Makai/Hell regardless. Not to mention, a lot less powerful ability wise, not being able to fly and with a main weapon that can backfire easily.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Рік тому +1

      Tbh, I wish the other games were more like it.(Except storywise because TH1 barely having one really annoys me. Fighting angels, evil eyes, ghosts, demons and gods really requires more elaboration than "they exist. Some of them are taken from mythology, some of them aren't." Like, what? xD)

  • @CaptainMangles
    @CaptainMangles Рік тому +11

    so glad grayfruit is playing TEE HEE that's awesome

  • @Aaa-vp6ug
    @Aaa-vp6ug 9 місяців тому +3

    31:07 ah yes, I too remember the tiktok dance that was literally *just* standing on a boat!
    Actually, this is sarcasm, but that would be kinda funny, “the newest trend in fashion is the sit down and shut up.”

  • @thechazzler8934
    @thechazzler8934 Рік тому +14

    Im genuinely so happy Gexuma has became an editor of your channel, I've been watching their videos for eons now

  • @Spartanhero613
    @Spartanhero613 Рік тому +3

    Your PC-98 emulator's set up a little wrong.
    - You haven't installed the PC-98's OPNA/Yamaha 2608 sound samples, which means the epic drum backing on all of the music is missing. These go in the same place as your FONT.ROM does
    - You're not running the game window at a multiple of 640x400, which is what causes the crushed-looking graphics in places, and the out of place block of texture/white cursor around the bottom-left corner of the screen

  • @prog00017
    @prog00017 Рік тому +8

    Very excited to see more!
    I'm gonna be that weirdo SHUMP fan and recommend some supplemental material:
    For those interested in the music, I'd strongly recommend Akatsuki Records. Really killer vocal track arrangements of several character themes. Gave me whiplash hearing Sariel's theme in it's PC 98 rendition and being able to recognize it.
    If the idea of the weird VS SHUMP gameplay of Touhou 3 interested you, I really recommend Twinkle Star Sprites. It's on Steam and Switch and is a blast in local VS.

  • @rowmacnezumi8953
    @rowmacnezumi8953 Рік тому +4

    Also fun fact, Reimu doesn't really know what god her shrine holds. It's possible that Reimu IS that god.

  • @buff00n3ry
    @buff00n3ry Рік тому +9

    My favorite bit of Touhou is a friend telling me:
    "This character never had an official look / design and the best view you get of her is zooming into WAY into the background during her one appearance.
    She's the 2nd most popular character in the franchise."

    • @fhornmichaelmac
      @fhornmichaelmac Рік тому

      Is it Koakuma?

    • @buff00n3ry
      @buff00n3ry Рік тому

      @@fhornmichaelmac Gonna say yes

    • @FamilyTeamGaming
      @FamilyTeamGaming Рік тому +10

      @@buff00n3ry you're probably thinking of Momiji. Yeah she's crazy popular for a character with 0 relevance and barely an official look, but she's not "second most popular", that's a bit hyperbolic.

  • @Vexcenot
    @Vexcenot Місяць тому +1

    touhou is one of those series you see the internet talk about all the time yet you could never comprehend what it even is about

  • @duncanurquhart5278
    @duncanurquhart5278 Рік тому +20

    grayfruit isn't going to rest until he's gone through every series in chronological order

    • @duncanurquhart5278
      @duncanurquhart5278 Рік тому +2

      although i have to say, i think this might take a bit longer than metal slug or street fighter

  • @LimeyLassen
    @LimeyLassen Рік тому +8

    It's amazing how much jump in quality there is to touhou 6.

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP Рік тому +16

      Also amazing to see ZUN's art style completely change as the century turns. Touhou 5's is all dark, sharp, vibrant, and 90's anime style; Touhou 6's is soft with whites and pastels, almost looking like watercolor to an extent.

  • @alec5779
    @alec5779 Рік тому +6

    eyyy Gexuma got hired

  • @FoxMan_FF
    @FoxMan_FF Рік тому +7

    The "Live Reimu Reaction" killed me on the spot. That was funnier than it had any right to be.
    Good to see grayfruit dipping his toes into the early days of the toohoos! Touhou 3 has one of the best final boss themes in the entire franchise, don't @ me.

    • @LunarSoul255
      @LunarSoul255 Рік тому +1

      Dimension of Reverie from 4 is highkey a top tier Touhou song as well

  • @FlippinEgg
    @FlippinEgg Рік тому +4

    awesome fun fact: mimi-chan (who is also the best touhou character) originates from a manga called "don't leave me alone daisy". it is terrible and it somehow got an anime adaptation. please do not read or watch it !

  • @uboa8060
    @uboa8060 Рік тому +3

    20:20 i blame mugen in general, this isn't a fault of touhou itself but mugen being a rat race of who can make the most busted character. And then theres the meme characters and actual fighting game characters which are based. Touhou in general is goofy and whimsical, not edgy. The closest thing to edginess is maybe the komeiji sister's backstory (which is overplayed as hell) and maybe Yuyuko's? Yuyuko's backstory is a little sad but not really edgy.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Рік тому +1

      Bad ending where Marisa burns Reimu alive? PC98 Yuuka? These are like actual edgy things in this series that come out of pocket.

    • @HyperVanilo
      @HyperVanilo 11 місяців тому +1

      At least Mugen gives Touhou fans Reimu's mom, often called Sendai Hakurei which then appeared in Osana Reimu

  • @gzantriple
    @gzantriple Рік тому +5

    Nice Video. I hope you don't plan on putting the entire Windows Era into just a single video as well, It would be a handful.

  • @LavaCreeperPeople
    @LavaCreeperPeople 10 місяців тому +2

    Okay, the game’s manageable and actually fun on easy mode (Touhou 3), but once you reach normal mode and up, it’s just a bunch of near-unavoidable NONSENSE. Hitboxes aren’t clear, and the AI only seems to take damage when I take damage. I can be at full health, dodging the bosses attacks, but the AI never seems to die even when it’s at half a heart, and that’s the worst part of them all. It’s such a huge tryhard. Whenever you dodge a bullet, there seems to be another one waiting for you, and not being able to hold the key to shoot is annoying too. I keep dying on the Semifinal and final stage, even though I beat it first try on easy (Reimu). I’m playing as Marisa, btw
    At least with Touhou 6, the patterns are hard, but they make sense and you can beat them with practice, which is why I like the game. It’s a good challenge and the game never made me want to punch my screen once, even on normal mode
    But with Touhou 1, 2, and 3, it seems to just be BS after BS and at that point it’s just absolutely rage-including. Touhou 1 is addicting, but controlling the ball will drive you insane. Touhou 2 is just boring, clunky and a bunch of nonsense near the end especially at the final boss, whos attacks will make you wonder what in the world is going on. I had a great normal mode run (no deaths and only used 2 bombs) but I got frustrated at level 2 because I couldn’t tell what were bullets and what weren’t, and even if I did, I would already be dead because the movement is so dang clunky. Touhou 3 is on par with 1, but it still has a lot of BS. They haven’t aged well at all as PC-98 titles. They fail at being a good challenge and it seems that the difficulty is from unfair, poorly made mechanics
    Luckily, I have self control and rationality, unlike people in those UA-cam rage compilations, so I’m not going to be breaking my literal device over some old bullet hell video game, lol. At least the soundtracks are good and the character designs are cool too especially Marisa’s. I tried it again and managed to beat it on normal mode with all of my continues (Marisa). I didn’t lose any of my lives on the last continue. I tried it again and managed to beat it with Mima on normal mode using 1 continue and on my last life (I didn’t 1CC it, I just died 5 times in total. 1CC is using 0 continues). That doesn’t mean that I really like the game, though. I just wanted to have something to back my words up. I was naive to think that I could 1CC Touhou 3 on normal mode. I probably won’t try Touhou 1 and 2 on normal mode, though. (Okay, I DID try it but I got bored/frustrated and quit after a while. xD)
    TOUHOU 4, THOUGH. Now that’s a DIFFERENT STORY. I tried it and woah. FINALLY, a GOOD PC-98 Touhou game that has held up well! 1, 2, 3 has caused me so much pain, I honestly had low hopes for LLS but once I played it, I was shocked at the quality increase compared to its predecessors. Graphics are better and don’t hurt your eyes, music is still solid, controls are solid, art is better, gameplay is way, way better, and most importantly the patterns are fair and not just a bunch of near-unavoidable BS on your screen while still being a good challenge! They may seem daunting at first, but like EoSD, once you practice them it becomes easier and a fun experience. One nitpick I have is that sometimes I can’t see the enemy projectiles clearly but that’s just a nitpick.
    Anyway, it’s not bad and i liked it! I hope Touhou 5 is good too! :)

  • @HalibutToast
    @HalibutToast Рік тому +5

    22:58
    I don't know about TH3, but the later vs. danmaku games in the Windows era have it so that the CPU characters just die on a timer, with very little care for what happens in between that timer ending. Sometimes, you can even see the CPU going through bullets, because they're only set to die after hitting that timer.

    • @yokaipinata1416
      @yokaipinata1416 9 місяців тому +1

      3 is like that too. It's worth noting that certain characters have attacks that confuse the AI and can score "unplanned" hits, though, which can end fights prematurely.
      In this game, those are Reimu's yin-yang orbs, Rikako's gears and Yumemi's crosses.

  • @strikermodel
    @strikermodel Рік тому +7

    The first Touhou actually aged really well I gotta say. It's style is very distinct and the pixel art looks good. Not to mention the bullet patterns look really cool. I especially like the one that looks like raindroplets.

    • @18themxxn_
      @18themxxn_ Рік тому +4

      there's no way we just watched the same video

    • @when-do-we-get-a-block-button
      @when-do-we-get-a-block-button Рік тому

      while i agree on the whole style thing and it aging well (enough), that is still a game i would absolutely not touch with a 10ft pole. out of respect.

    • @kirimusse
      @kirimusse Рік тому +10

      ​@@18themxxn_ It has aged about as well as a NES game, which can be either a compliment or a roast depending on which NES game we compare it to. All things considered, I too would say it has aged well; not exceptionally so, but it's still perfectly enjoyable nowdays.

  • @yokaipinata1416
    @yokaipinata1416 9 місяців тому +3

    Congrats on your first ever 1CC! ❤ Interestingly enough, you're the second person I'm aware of whose first 1CC was in the third game.
    While I wish I had been there to advise you, as I know a lot about these games, I'm glad you decided to start with the PC-98 Era, they need more spotlight. ❤

  • @yuriaraujosilveira8530
    @yuriaraujosilveira8530 3 місяці тому +2

    It's impressive how the third (1v1) game has the kind of humor you'd see in 2014. My girl got an Intercontinental Balistic Missile as a pet/broom, that's quality Gen X/Z humor

  • @bigmanjones
    @bigmanjones Рік тому +6

    I love me some Touhou "PROJECT"

  • @Sickcrazyneet
    @Sickcrazyneet Рік тому +3

    6:17 Also Asriel shares the name of Azrael from the bible, which is an angel of death, along with Sariel.

  • @shtj6761
    @shtj6761 Рік тому +3

    Yeahh...ZUN didn't really start on the worldbuilding or the concept of "Gensokyo" until the 7th game and it didn't solidify like until 9th or 10th game.
    Before that it really was just some generic eastern magic land where silly stuff happens.

  • @YuutaTogashi0707
    @YuutaTogashi0707 6 місяців тому +2

    Nekoproject 21/w or dosbox-x is way better for pc-98 emulation
    but for proper percussion you have to find the OPNA samples the sound chip uses and put it in the folder of the emulation
    glitches like the typing box in 1 and W not showing correctly will be fixed

  • @BinglesP
    @BinglesP Рік тому +5

    Seeing the Funny Peggle streamer play the very game series I've been obsessed with since I was literally a child is awesome. These games are so fun even if I suck at them.
    I remember I loved the first game when I started getting into it at that age, as I thought it was so edgy and cool how 'mysterious' it was. Nowadays I just laugh at it because of the hilarious typos(i.e. "TOTLE" and "HARRY UP")

  • @DiddlyDiPotatoes
    @DiddlyDiPotatoes Рік тому +6

    Always love seeing Grayfruit indulge in his love of all things shmup/danmaku.

  • @quartzofcourse
    @quartzofcourse Рік тому +3

    17:13 come back when you're a little, mmmm, stronger

  • @notloopers1110
    @notloopers1110 11 місяців тому +2

    every time i watch this i forget reimu canonically offers gay marriage to one of the bosses, and then promptly murders her completely and fully to the point she has to be stopped from digging her a grave to put her in

    • @HyperVanilo
      @HyperVanilo 11 місяців тому

      "canonically"
      Remember, PC98 games are not canon

    • @notloopers1110
      @notloopers1110 11 місяців тому +1

      yes yes, i know mima is not returning

    • @supreme_xenon
      @supreme_xenon 11 місяців тому

      Became "canon" because of mistranslation and sadly you believe that

    • @jaiturn3187
      @jaiturn3187 6 місяців тому

      the only character reimu felt gay for was homophobic 💔

  • @TheBakaCirno
    @TheBakaCirno 9 місяців тому +3

    33:15 "Cool fuckin' Move" - Marisa Kirisame

  • @ColdLunches
    @ColdLunches Рік тому +2

    0:39 Harry up?

  • @Slobbercat
    @Slobbercat Рік тому +4

    The second game really just said "oops she died. oh well, time to bury her."

  • @jyou_gerty9436
    @jyou_gerty9436 Рік тому +5

    at long last! The grayfruit touhou video.

  • @mortalsno4086
    @mortalsno4086 Рік тому +4

    At 5:08 that theme sounds dangerously similar to "Through The Fire And The Flames"

  • @PressRToZeus
    @PressRToZeus Рік тому +4

    I always forget how different and experimental the early touhou games are, and then 6 onwards zun solidified his style and it's more or less always been the series we know and love from there. Hope you keep playing and I'm glad you had fun with the early entires of the series ^^

  • @ShinSHOGO
    @ShinSHOGO Рік тому +5

    I really enjoy the first game, let alone the rest of the original five.
    They’re all so weird and jank, but you can see them clearly improve with each entry.
    But they all consistently have great soundtracks, despite the primitive hardware.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Рік тому +1

      I like how the two things majorly holding TH 1 back are that the collission detection sucks and certain bullet patterns are so big that they don't even spawn correctly. Fix the jank and the game looks 100 times better because the actual gamedesign somehow manages to hold up, sometimes actually better than Touhou games afterwards ironically.
      Of course, it will take a long time until that actually happens because the gameplay-commnity be like "My replay-compatibility! Can't lose that 💀"

    • @ShinSHOGO
      @ShinSHOGO 11 місяців тому

      @@lpfan4491
      I wish ZUN would try the Touhou 1 design again, even for a .5 spinoff entry in the series.
      Maybe in Touhou 20.5. And he’ll do a really sick arrangement of Eternal Shrine Maiden just to hit it home.

      Ha.
      Right.
      😢

  • @fauxdude9756
    @fauxdude9756 Рік тому +3

    BY GOD, IT'S CHIYURI WITH A STEEL CHAIR

  • @marisakirisame867
    @marisakirisame867 10 місяців тому +2

    I have original copy of all PC-98 touhou! ( Which needs great skills of dealin' to get 'em )

  • @nobody4248
    @nobody4248 2 місяці тому +1

    There is actually a crossover berween Touho soundrack and undertale soundtrack called "U. N. Owen was a true hero".

  • @picklerobertson5807
    @picklerobertson5807 Рік тому +5

    If it ever happens, I would love to see grayfruit’s reactions to the Touhou 6 art.

  • @rainphee
    @rainphee Рік тому +2

    i like that if you do bad in touhou 2 the game tells you to kill yourself

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Рік тому +1

      Marisa:"In eastern wonderland, the witch burns you."

  • @sparklebum
    @sparklebum Рік тому +5

    you are about to expose me to a fandom i've known but ignored for YEARS, grayfruit

  • @psychicjellyfish9466
    @psychicjellyfish9466 Рік тому +3

    Ayy, congrats for Gex! (Not that one, the other one)

  • @Captain_Fiasco
    @Captain_Fiasco Рік тому +25

    This is probably the video that's gonna convince most my t gal friends to start watching you

    • @none-ro9dz
      @none-ro9dz Рік тому +7

      real
      jerma and grayfruit will finally have a 100% audience overlap

    • @Captain_Fiasco
      @Captain_Fiasco Рік тому

      I should also remind the one to send grayfruit the touhou zip file cuz that'd be useful

  • @zymosan99
    @zymosan99 Рік тому +3

    8:47 it says HARRY UP

  • @John-se6it
    @John-se6it Рік тому +5

    wasn't expecting touhou, might actually learn what touhou is about

  • @JimmyZedi
    @JimmyZedi Рік тому +2

    I've been a Touhou fan for a long time now but I've never actually seen the good endings for any of the PC98 games and, comedic elements aside, woo boy am I glad I didn't try. I do like the official Touhou novels that Zun has written so I think he is a competent writer but... Well... We all have to start somewhere I guess.

  • @razorblaze4522
    @razorblaze4522 Рік тому +3

    Totle
    Also the first boss of the Hell route isnt a snake, she's a ghost

  • @MarcusFigueras
    @MarcusFigueras Рік тому +5

    Playing touhou in order is quite a novelty

  • @shirleymaemattthews4862
    @shirleymaemattthews4862 Рік тому +3

    I find it INTERESTING whenever Tohou appears in English/Non-Japanese media.🤣