Mr. House VS Independent New Vegas | Fallout Cartography
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- This cartography entry contrasts the House and Independent New Vegas endings and what their victories would look like from a birds-eye perspective. We will even take a look at multiple Yes-Man scenarios, because it is the one New Vegas ending that has the most flexibility and varied outcomes, which makes for interesting consequences.
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with all the discussion about what faction is the best to lead Vegas, I think we should all take a step back and realize that the only person capable of saving the Mojave is Fantastic.
He has a theoretical degree in Physics, was able to get Helios 1 up and running in no time, and personally I just think his attitude is so positive that the vibes alone would make him a great leader.
Bruh
@@thescotslair agreed
I still think we should just let Dr mobius lead and we get all the fun stuff but bros for some reason super careful about humanity but doesn’t care about literally anything else, he might not be able to actually.
This could work irl do *not* tempt humanity
Truth this man speaks, TRUTH!
*"God let me live another day, and I'm about to make it everyone else's problem!"*
- Courier 6, explaining why the Securitron army is now a smouldering wreck, why Kimball and Caesar are now bloody puddles, and I-15 and everything on the east bank of the Colorado are nuclear wastelands to Yes-Man.
Those 2 bullets can make you the most vindictive son of a bitch this side of the atlantic
I only dropped nukes on the NCR. Everyone else fed me. I didn't even carry healing items, just a water flask and body parts.
"God spared me that night and so I now spread the message of freedom"
-Freedom Courier when asked what motivated him/her
58:32 but that isn't the only other option. If you kill *all* of the Fiend leaders (Motor-Runner, Cook-Cook, Driver Nephi, and Violet), then ypu get an additional ending where the leaderless Fiends collapse.
This ending can happen regardless of which faction you sided with.
So the Yes Man option is not as bleak as you might think
A being that's not human. Never been human has no business running any human society. Yes even the toaster pretenders.
@@hughmann9568 Yes Man is your yes man. In that ending, you are running the show.
@@shorewall at the end of the main story Yes Man says he found information on Mr House's computers about how to change his programing to be more assertive, then he says he is leaving for a while. I think the implication is that Yes Man will eventually take over.
The implication is that The Courier will be the only one he will listen to from now on. If someone other than The Courier tries to force his hand the other way he can say No.
@@HeAdLeSs_DG jfc how many times does that need to be debunked. for the 1000th time, the devs addressed this, he isn't making it so he doesn't listen to you, it's a failsafe so nobody else can do to you what you did to benny
A good-karma Courier under House can do the Kings storyline with the NCR to earn a favor from The King. The Courier can spend this favor to force peace in Freeside and turn the Kings into peacekeepers working with House. This can be coupled with working with the Followers of the Apocalypse to provide aid to Freeside. This raises Freeside from a worthless slums and provides a solid residential district for New Vegas.
On the south side the Fiends can be broken for good by helping the NCR at MacNamara to drop the three leaders, and the Courier can clear the Vault. This scatters and breaks the Fiends as a source of conflict and brings peace to south New Vegas for traders and travelers.
With the Fiends broken, there isn't much you can do for the Great Khans in the Canyon. Best outcome for them is a peaceful exodus to settle in Zion with the tribes there.
For the Brotherhood, there isn't any good option. They're nothing but raiders with fancy toys and House cannot be reasoned with to allow them to exist. If the Courier works with the Elder and Veronica, Veronica can be convinced to join the Followers. This earns just enough standing that the Courier can, with Veronica not in the party, set the reactor in the Bunker to overload, and sneak out without killing anyone. This scatters the remains of the Brotherhood, but the Courier keeps enough standing that Veronica can accept what happened, and the remnants of the Brotherhood aren't marked for kill-on-sight.
Keeping standing with the NCR so their citizens still come to New Vegas means there isn't much option for the Powder Gangers to be left standing. An unfortunate loss of life since not all of them were violent criminals, but not everyone can be saved in the Mojave.
Working with various NCR groups on the side, Golf and the east front can be stablized, the sharecroppers can be empowered, MacNamara can be stablized, and the NCR can reach such a standing with the Courier that their demilitarization in the Mojave doesn't leave the citizens demoralized as the Securitrons move in to protect the greater New Vegas area.
To speed through the rest: The Crimson Caravan can be made honest again with Rose, the Boomers can ally House, the three families of New Vegas can be cleaned up and brought in line, the Enclave can be given their last hurrah, and Primm gets the best results of a House ending with Slim.
It's not perfect, but with enough alliances, Courier Six can go robotic enough with enough cybernetics between the Clinic and Big MT to survive for decades as the hands of House to bring peace to the Mojave for years to come.
iirc the house ending overrides the peace between ncr and kings into house taking out the kings for "working" with the ncr
You can get the Powder Gangers in Vault 119 to join the Great Khans as they leave the Mojave if you destroy the sulfur mines below the Vault with C4. The rest, as you mentioned, that stayed near the prison are buzzard food.
It is possible to convince the brotherhood to reconcile with the NCR and team up. The NCR gives back all the power armor they have that doesn't properly work and the brotherhood does patrols in the Mojave for them while also making sure dangerous technology doesn't fall into the wrong hands
There is a way to get the powder gangers to surrender to the NCR and go back to jail It does require you to go to the vault that they're hold up in
And then what happens? After the decades of cybernetics fail House 's couriers hand? And his own systems give out? What then? Not really an ending so much as a continuation of one
MacNamara?
Obviously I *ALWAYS* win.
*equips 9 iron*
hello grandpa *Equip Driver nephi golf*
@@Rad_King*A different kind of big iron*
@@Rad_King My great enemy the 9 iron....
Sentient jerky
To be fair, House literally has over 200 years of experience under his belt, He's what every business employer dreams of having on their side.
But he spent 100+ of those years in a coma below the strip
@@drewrosenberg9200 The video explains 7 minutes in.. House exhausted his life support juggling everything without the Platinum Chip he was left in mental pain for 5 years before a sort-of coma rendered him unconscious for about 50 years.
Doing good in business usually means they're abysmally poor in everything pertaining to humans.
@@IgN5P except in the fallout universe.
War never changes but business does. He would definitely be able to make the connections to create society on other worlds that will devolve into another great war
*House under investigation, RobCo's future uncertain*
That's the fallout NV out of bounds creepypasta right ?
Yeah i watched the theory videos it defo is a link to the nv out of bonds videos that are doing the rounds.
@@alexshinra6722 yea I watched a deep dive few days back pretty interesting
@@flameguy3416 a damn good creepypasta
No it is papers please.
IIRC, finishing the Three Card Bounty quest + taking Motor Runner out results in the Fiends no longer being a threat to Southern Vegas.
I feel that the inclusion of Fisto really shows the accuracy of a lot of the lore.
The B-29 sank into Lake Mead after a water crash landing in 1948. So, more than 200 years by a *considerable* amount. :) (I love old warbirds, and I knew about this years ago.)
*Just finished a Modded playthrough*
The Great Khanate of the Colorado reigns supreme, even as the hated NCR and despotic Legion collapse inwards on themselves.
Khagan Morkere, heir to the great Papa Khan, rules from the Lucky 38, where he rules with a light but powerful fist across the Mojave and one day all the lands that touch the Colorado
Then is immediately murdered because the khan's are a ruthless raider gang.
What's with you people always trying to brag about mods. They're nothing new. You remind me of people on snapchat always snappin the food they're eating and herb they're smoking.
@@brosephbroman7564 It's not bragging it's just. . .excitement at what a small handful of mods allowed me to modify to create my perfect ending and playthrough. In my case it was just a small handful of mods that allowed the Khans to stay *in* the Mojave (either under your Papa Khan's rule, Regis's, or your own should you had been made heir), and one that let you "claim" locations you clear out for a faction of your choice repopulating those areas.
@@williamleonardreesejr.1992 Oh ok. I'll let it slide in this instance. Maybe that is something we could have experienced if they could have finished the game.
@@williamleonardreesejr.1992 what mod lets you repopulate cleared areas?
Man i didn't realize the Courier i always play was the Freedom Courier
@@jacobcrowley1675 🦅🦅🦅🦅
I feel like mr house or the courier would hire and train a small army of mercs using the wealth and tech of vegas to establish both outposts and law enforcement
The Chaos Courier resets the East Coast Wasteland to the state we find California in Fallout 1, save for the Brotherhood of Steel having a greater presence. They wipe out 120 years of progress.
Must have been one of Bud's Buds
Claim the Mojave is a good mod recommandation, especially if used in conjunction with Functional PostGameEnding, along with Run the Lucky38
Do they come along with Viva New Vegas
Just looked at these mods and thought..m shit. Im lvl 24 ans never realized....
Will they work on a currentbgame file?
"Welcome atoms child", "whats up sexy" me EVERYTIME
I love imaging that the Chaos Courier is just another agent of Korne laying waste and collecting skulls for the skull throne
If I remember right there is an automated steel mill near vegas that’s implied to be houses.
H&H tools also belonged to Mr House's brother who was estranged and resentful of House. His brother had actually hacked into the Lucky 38 and there was going to be a quest that would see you either reopen the factory with employment from either freeside or the NCR. Alternatively you could use the H&H building to remotely steal control of the Lucky 38 from House in the Yes Man ending, a conspiracy from a brother from beyond the grave.
In the chaos ending the Strip would just become an open air vault after a certain point. All those tourists waiting for things to cool down so they can go home and it just never does. Eventually realizing those securitrons and the gate are the only thing keeping them safe and with barely any new visitors they grow increasingly insular. Assuming of course their insane mailman overlord doesn’t set the securitrons on them.
Really curious what the show will choose as the canon ending of New Vegas. I always assumed, after I first played it, that it was either the House or NCR ending.
I personally have a roleplay headcanon ending where it's an infependant Courier ending but he realizes that House is best for the Mojave. So the courier makes sure that there is a mutual understanding between him and House that he could be taken out at any time should he become a tyrant, but outside of that the Courier will be his right hand man while ensuring the freedom and prosperity of the Mojave and grooming an eventual line of successors to help (and keep in check) House since everyone else is not immortal
Until one day the courier comes and finds the door to his sleepy chamber marked as [INACCESSIBLE] and the terminal ripped out of the wall, huehue
There’s no way that robber baron is for the best. His ilk are the ones who caused the apocalypse
@@Quizzmet The Courier could just kill all of the securitrons and drill through the wall. Pick-axe if he has to. At the end of the day, House is just a man in a pod.
@@Falloutlover1011Yup. House knew Vault-Tec wanted to bomb everyone, but didn't try to save anyone outside Vegas. He still acts like a techbro even after the Apocolypse. He learned nothing from the Old World failures, blaming democracy when he helped destroy it.
56:20 If the NCR tried to do that, I’m pretty sure that would violate the Order of Withdrawal, meaning they’d lose access to water and electricity from the Dam
“As Chief Executive of the Free Economic Zone of New Vegas, I hereby demand the IMMEDIATE WITHDRAWAL of all NCR military personnel from New Vegas and its surrounding territories.
a) Yes, "all military personnel" includes NCR Rangers.
b) "New Vegas and its surrounding territories" includes (but is not limited to) Hoover Dam, McCarran International Airport, HELIOS One, and the El Dorado substation.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE that my vast army of heavily-armed Securitrons has been rather inflexibly programmed to respond to acts of aggression with overwhelming force.
a) For examples of "heavily-armed" and "overwhelming force," I will refer you to the pitiless campaign of extermination my Securitrons will have visited upon Caesar's Legion by the time you are reading this document.
b) Any NCR military personnel who do not withdraw from New Vegas and its territories will be seen as committing an "act of aggression."
NCR civilians are NOT subject to this order of withdrawal! They may visit New Vegas freely, enjoying all that the Vegas Strip has to offer!
So long as NCR military personnel comply with this order to withdraw, electricity and water will continue to flow from Hoover Dam to the NCR.”
Thanks now the NCR has developed PMC's.
The House Always Win
Cannon ending
Expect when a wild card shows up
The chaos ending but with the khans still alive for distribution of "flour" would be even more savage. Supplying the strip, fiends and powder gang with naughty substances. Leaving the boomers alone for the sake of death fields remaining active. Now we talking real chaos
The Fiends being more chemed up would be chaotic.
23:00 maybe Caesar doesn’t send his men to check what you did, as they would then know Caesar built his main camp where he keeps himself, his highest officers, and most of his men in Mojave on top of a giant robot army and didn’t even know it. It would show he’s as smart as he acts. But I’m sure Caesar would spin it as divine help that the securitrons didn’t wake up and slaughter them all (unless you don’t destroy them and go House/Yes Man)
Caesar explains it in game- he doesnt want people to become over reliant on tech.
Also funny how radking says “we can also follow caesars order, but only in a yes man run.”
Ah yes a match between the 2 best endings (sorry ncr & legion)
What I like most about the Yes Man ending is that it canonically causes chaos, plus it isn't even an independent ending, the Courier is an Autocrat just like House. Independent from whom exactly
The Courier doesn't really becomes an Autocrat but more like a peacekeeper (thanks to the army of Securitrons) that lets the citizens, towns and factions of the Mojave be free of the NCR, Caesar or House intervention, that's why is the "Independent Ending" but "Yes Man Ending" could be better since he does the logistics and other more complex work to let you do basically whatever you want, then the ending is more about the Courier using Yes Man to do their commands, then maybe the Courier does become an Autocrat or maybe it's still a peacekeeper, a benevolent leader, a righteous king, a pragmatic under the shadows mastermind, who knows, that's up to your Courier.
@@mrheherdisruptor8975 Then who is to say that they become a peacekeeper? An Autocrat is merely a figure who doesn't hold elections, and from what we see and hear from dialogue, the Courier has little interest in defending or expanding democracy
@@E.Cheese Well that's kinda the point i was trying to make at the end, that's up to your Courier. Also, i guess the Courier becomes a Peacekeeper since they are not a leader and the idea is to let the Mojave and Vegas run themselves so what better to do with all this power than become a Peacekeeper to keep avoiding that external factions, creatures, fiends and other shit kills the people of the Mojave, also also, dialogue options are up to you.
A great fallout game, or maybe mod spinoff, would be the finding of the chip. It’s left kind of vague how exactly it was recovered and I imagine the story is interesting.
Dude I totally needed a vid like this the last few days thank you
when you combine the Freedom Courier with the technology from Big MT, you basically counter the whole Brotherhood, not only the Courier would provide freeside/strip with even more supplies through the Sierra Madre's (Modified so they dont need the Chips and instead use energy to work, since the Chips are kinda batteries) Vending Machines and with the Help of the Think Tank, develop new codes, both for even more supplies for survival and also new military equipment, like a new variant of power armor made out of Saturnite Alloy or even an army of Securitrons Mk VII (since there are new versions of the Securitrons in Big MT already) also made out of saturnite alloy and shooting LAER lasers instead of regular lasers, and even a much better self-fixing systems similar to the vending machines, not to consider an army of holograms, and even if all of that isnt enough, the Courier could simply ask the Think Tank to create a new variant of the Red Cloud, but being easier to control, so they could evacuate the whole Mojave and release the Gas, once Vegas was already Immune to the gas of course, so even if the BoS tried to call all other Chapters to take the Mojave, there would be nothing they could do
(sorry if my english is bad, im not american)
The BoS wouldn't need to do anything except retreat. The tunnelers are on their way to the mojave, I could only see the courier and the holograms giving them any trouble. And the courier doesn't take any hologram emitter tech from the madre.
@@rydz656 there's still Hologram Tech at Big MT, he could ask the Think tank for help or study them in order to replicate the ones from the Madre
About Khans. By completing the quest and telling Papa Khan he should move on, they actually just leave Vegas once battle starts, so you can both spare them and leave Legion/NCR without a potential ally.
Is that a roller coaster? You know my weakness.
I don't know why no one talks about the securitrons biggest weakness. Stairs. 😂
because then we have to ask how Yes Man got up to the tower to throw Oliver off it, and we'd rather just enjoy the show.
@@youmukonpaku3168 He obviously just rocket jumps. 😅
If I could do what I want with the ending, I'd go with the Yes Man Route, but then use the Securitron army as leverage to negotiate a better deal joining the NCR. It's better for both sides to be joined, but the NCR wants to just strip the region for resources and send all the power and water west to the capital region in and around Shady Sands. New Vegas is going to be a full member state, not colonized. And if the NCR tries to renege on the deal... I have a Securitron army. And air support from the Boomers. And the Kings, Khans, Brotherhood, and even Enclave remnants.
I'd say House would have more of a presence in the wider Mojave - if concentrated at some points of interest necessary for his future plans for the New Vegas area - after all, he isn't going to let his city be a single street in the middle of a ruin forever.
The various mines and the quarries for metal and cement/concrete, the Vegas Steel plant, the various railroad infrastructure like the old emergency service yard, HELIOS to supplement the wider power grid, and H&H Tools and Cerulean Robotics for their manufacturing infrastructure, maybe even Sunset Sarsaparilla HQ if a mailman or something figured out the recipe. Those could be businesses built up and spun off by House for those he didn't need to keep a close eye on.
As for the military camps, House would probably station groups of securitrons at the ones directly on or adjacent to the highways just for the sake of securing them from raiders and hostile wildlife by necessity to maintain trade routes, if not just hire mercenaries to secure them instead.
In reality the House ending is the most logical, since the courier is already in the Employ of Mr. House.
Nah man, Benny shot me in the head because of Mr House.
Free Vegas with the upgraded securicons is the only logical choice
@@admiralsfleet2668 Benny shoots the courier because of his plan to rule Vegas, Mr. House didn't know that would happen. And in my case, yes man is the one who told Benny where the courier was and what the courier was carrying, so you wouldn't want to work with the guy that tried to get you killed.
@@admiralsfleet2668geckos attacked me.
Enclave dropped nukes.
Geckos come from nukes.
Geckos attacked me because of enclave.
Must complete Geckos plans.
World of the Reptilians must commence!
@@admiralsfleet2668are you really gonna trust the guy who had you tricked and killed twice?
@@martinpachu7125 I respect what Mr House did sparing Vegas/the Mojave from the worst when the bombs dropped.
I trust cowboy/the securicons to defend Vegas than the tyrant House would have became if left in charge with the upgraded army.
It's been a while since I played. Maybe House has some backdoor, dead man's access to the securicons but if it's NCR, the Legion, or House for Vegas, I choose none of them!
I hope I made the right choice for new Vegas! 😂
Idolized with all possible factions with independent vegas is my favorite. Almost everyone lives, but powder gangers, fiends and legion.
It doesn't end well. Dust happens with that ending.
That headshot had *_95% Chance to hit_* vibes.
A number of memes have been made using vats showing that and the other one is from the failed president Kimball assassination
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You are truly "hobbling" both of those characters! Hell, my wildcards (almost all of my couriers are wildcards these days, as I've got a head-canon of the 'Majoveh-Confederation' - where the Courier as head of New Vegas (the New will be replaced vor LAS again!) runs the region, with securitrons (and other robots through a bounty system - people can bring in bots, computers, parts, weapons etc. and gain a cap bounty!) and his or her own (fleshy) army and police-force and people get a say too via an elected council (Courier can veto their decisions, he's got the muscle after all)) help the NCR a LOT more than neccessary and it's not just for the sweet sweet XP an loot! Same for my House-Couriers, they help NCR etc. more than House would like!
I was thinking this video was going to be whether either of these endings are going to be tied into the next season of the Fallout TV show.
Looks like the Legion is out of the picture on account of how barren the strip looked when Hank is seen overlooking it. I'd imagine the Legion would have lots of flames and bodies there. I'm thinking either the Courier endings or the NCR ending was canon. Maybe House's ending but I have a feeling House's autocracy would have left The Strip thriving. After all by that time he'd be 276 years old with the majority of that time stewing over the future of The Strip. Plus if he had his Securitrons upgraded they would have made it trivial to protect The Strip so the only thing left is the economy. With the Dam power and Mr House's business skills I have no doubt The Strip would have been overflowing with activity and growth.
In my opinion, the best ending is with the bulk of Caesar's forces in ruin an independent New Vegas run by The courier allied with the Ncr
With the efficiency and stability of the New Vegas region under the corrier. The NCR wouldn't struggle quite so much. It would be able to strengthen itself up and survive much longer
Stuff like this always gets me thinking. A lot of people say House is the best ending cause "you're the courier and you're not that smart." But I think what people forget is the courier is me but with like a 20int stat by the end of the game and on a mentat binge. I'm sure my courier could not only run New Vegas, but figure out how to do exactly what House was thinking of doing even better.
Amazing work as per usual! You are basically Epic Nate, but born a child of atom! Love the channel and please PLEASE do pt 2 of trash! Praise be!
"The road to hell, is paved with good intentions."
For some reason, that is what I am thinking with the Freedom ending.
While the Chaos ending is just the road to hell.
Best Fallout UA-camr. I blew all my caps at the Hubology hut and I've never felt more dirty. Atom save me.
16:51 That's not Novac, that's Black Mountain. Novac is the black and orange circle to the Southeast.
So fascinating watching videos about this game to this day
My first end was messy, but if i remember correctly it was mostly a NCR victory with a healthy Mcnamara Brotherhood.
Sounds like the Chaos Courier is a canon Vault-Tec employee.
For a cannon ending, I go with the phrase: "The House always wins."
Great video, love this series! I always go with the Independent ending and just say "my courier will take care of it" if anything goes wrong. I imagine helping the Khans return to their former glory, and them being allies to New Vegas in the North. I figure when the courier gets old they'll just go into the antechamber and do what Mr. House did to live forever and stay in control. Basically I rely on the courier staying alive, and their good relations as well as power and influence with all the factions leaving them basically allied with the courier's vegas, even the BoS. I'm not sure if the ending slides really reflect that but it's my headcanon😅
If I massacred the fiends, in my mind they no longer exist. Get rid of the powder gangers, get quarry junction up and running, get some real industry other than gambling, and use the dam and helios for power. All this would probably include forming a proper government and militia to supplement the securitrons etc. etc. let the fires of industry burn.
All this on top of DLC stuff, allied with Joshua in the North, implementing the Sierra Madre vending machines and holograms in New Vegas with help from Christine, maybe nuking the Legion and NCR to block their path into the Mojave. Tech from Big Mt. can be used as well, vault 22 plants, all sorts of stuff. Usually I play with 10 INT so I just figure with essentially immortality and a big brain (or more likely no brain) and all of Big Mt. to assists, the courier could figure out and implement a lot of the handy dandy tech.
I basically do this type of thinking with the House ending. The Courier wants freedom and prosperity and realizes House brings stability, so as long as he doesn't become a tyrant, House can stay in charge, and House knows the Courier is a walking army that can take him out at any time if he gets pissed off, and House also knows The Courier mostly agrees with him (hence being alive) and only wants to be allowed more prosperity outside of what he had planned for the Strip itself, so he let's The Courier govern the greater Mojave and groom a line of successors to assist and counter a potentially tyrant that will never be.
I also have a similar head canon for the good karma Institute/minutemen end where you take over the Institute and since you're solely in charge, everyone has to obey you when you say "Stop being evil and start helping the surface using your technology"
A similar line of thinking to The Blades by definition taking orders from the Dragonborn and not the other way around, so you should be able to veto Delphine when she demands you kill your greatest ally despite there being no hint of hostility from him
16:52 You called Black Rock Mountain, Novac, you might want to edit that
The only true answer of who can run the wasteland is obviously fist-o
😂 Truth 😂
Halfway through and this is a pretty interesting format. Nice.
Chaos Independent playthrough is one of the more compelling endings imo. Most people who do Yes man ending just do benevolent courier saves the Mojave but I like chaotic courier fucks everything up more.
Certainly opens up nicely to the DUST mods roleplay
This is gonna be awesome!!!
Wake up babe new radking just dropped
39:33
This was always one my favorite places to farm experience points.
But especially after some how making it to Vegas then returning after winning at all the Casinos until they tell me to stop, and meeting up with the Gunners. Who in fact at the time of my play through had in their inventory a moderately priced "Anti Material " Rifle with slightly above moderate statistics. I do not remember them exactly, crap i should have wrote them down!
Yes!! Coming back with that bad boy and some grenades made it a whole other ball game! 😊
All hail our savior, the Lord of Radiation.
In house vs yes man I have yet to get a compelling answer to the question of why be a king maker when you can be a king.
I tested this before but basically there’s a way to do all the quests for all sides until it makes you pick a side. I did it for all sides to see what gives me the most experience. When I did, the most that did was yes man side. I was trying to get enough levels and experience to do the DLCs before finishing the main story and once I got almost to the end of the main quest, went to do all the DLCs and when I was done, I was pretty good leveled and geared and finished the game quickly.
I know that the (cursed in some instances!) Ending-Slides say that the Followers get swamped, they forgot or had not yet implemented the Dead Money, Old World Blues etc. DLCs where you can gain access to a lot of medical tech and during the ending you gain access to a VERTIBIRD...so yeah, you can get that stuff and the vending machines to jumpstart industry! So yeah, discard most of the slides!
The House always wins
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Independence provides normalcy.
House provides potential.
Testing fisto is proper safety standards.
Aw hell yeah new RadKing!
I just wanna say, that it’s kinda odd that House thinks the Legion would be an issue with Caesar dead. Like everything points to the Legion not lasting more than a year or two after Caesar dies, as it’s his planning that’s holding the legion together at all. Shoddycast went into this matter deeper, but the legion won’t live beyond Caesar. All the NCR has to do is wait them out.
I think that's down mainly to the fact that it seems the Legion didn't get as fleshed out as it should've been, so while we see a rather pathetic yet dangerous roleplay group that's destined to die regardless, the intended faction is meant to be a legitimate potential empire on the rise.
@@DelinquentChibi that may be, but we have to treat the legion as they are in canon, not as what they could’ve been. And honestly even then I question it. Their religion centered around Caesar, they had no real line of succession in place.
@@nikik5567 Well, yeah, I was just pointing out the potential reasoning for the discrepancy between what we see, and House's voice lines. It's possible that they couldn't change his lines to better suit what the Legion would wind up being upon releade.
Assuming that Caesar is dead by the time of the Legion victory at the Hoover Dam, from what I recall, New Vegas is utterly sacked. Imagine how much worse it could be for the people present if the Legion knew concretely that the death of Caesar was directly due to House's hired goon. The Legion may not last longer than a year without Caesar, but it would remain as an effective and brutal fighting force for a time yet.
@@crusaderking8277 that’s assuming the man dies before Hoover dam, and that the courier then helps the now crippled legion win the day. Which isn’t a possible canon ending if the fallout show is canon like they say it is. The legion might become brutal tribes, but they won’t be the legion anymore.
I'M RADDING
Instead of straight up answering the question I'll just say: the House always wins.
Now this thesis is purely theoretical, but, judging by the real world, I am confident that there are many people benefitting from the chaos and, as such, targeting anyone capable of restoring order. So when it comes to this, would you rather be the leader of lawful good and paint a huge bullseye on your own back? Or will you act like, say, Porter Gage and shield yourself with a visibly more powerful and capable leader like Mister House? Since he never leaves his HQ and doesn't need to, It will be pretty hard for anyone to sink their golf club into his head. Especially having to bypass his most loyal guard dogs - the securitron army and Courier six. The courier himself is unlikely to give up his adventures even should he gain such power as ruling New Vegas.
On the contrary, though, as a capable businessman Robert Edwin House is more than able to sell the idea of prosperity to a powerful figure like the Courier, just like he used to get many investors to put money into his economic empire. You can say his claims are backed up by his accomplishments, but everyone has their own limits. Besides, had he been as resourceful as it is stated, he'd bolster the security frontier between his fragile body and someone like the Courier. Simply put, reinforce the leash to never let his best guard dog loose to his own demise.
I would prefer a "Communal Ending" where all the none military factions of the Mojave works together to builds an independent and self sufficient, in energy, foods productions where the people need are places on tops.
Right now we have an unfinish "independent Skynet" ending, and the other three are all terrible, two of which are older corporate interest vs the newer corporates interest, and the other is just rebuilding Rome.
house always wins and by that i mean i always make him win almost every playthrough
You can have an independent Vegas that is stable instead of having a chaos Courier to make everything unstable for Vegas and still everything will be better than what you're saying
36:20
The Legion succeeds in assassination of Kimbal?! But they do not use guns. Perhaps they would have to hire out the job to someone with experience and success?
"Unorthodox Tactic"
*Use Guns and Explosives*
Me, preparing to launch the Mojave into chaos because I find Dave Foley's voice nice to listen to
As much as I love the independent ending, realistically, the Canon ending would most likely be the NCR or Mr House. Plus, I don't think the independent ending would have a long-term societal structure. Even if I upgrading the securitrons.
Depends on your Courier. You in effective become Tandi or Aradesh with Vegas. Or you leave in ruins.
Even tho the Chaos Courier has less territory, I doubt they care. I bet they are in Lucky 38 watching everything go to shit from monitors and laughing like Megatron from TF Prime when dark energon was erupting from a Volcano.
Black Mountain was mislabeled as Novac
Time stamp would probably help.
Heh, putting my money on it that the chaos courier, is canon to the show!
The house always wins lll
This is why I usually choose the Mister House ending in NV, and the Institute ending in Fallout 4. Moral qualms aside, it's objectively what is best for humanity as a whole (especially in the latter case, where the main source of evil and immorality - Shaun - is out of the equation by the end).
Huge. . . Tracts of land!
Broooo‼️
Hour & some change length video-
BET. Say no more fam
"Mathematical certainty" aka "there's a lot of earning potential in the end of the world" especially with *guaranteed* results
I feel like house would probably take control of reppcon buildings and helios one
So basically, the chaos courier ending is what leads to DUST
It transitions nicely
Nice video good job
"I PICK HOUSE FOR A STABLE VEGAS AND A BETTER TOMORROW."
"I PICK AN INDEPENDENT VEGAS FOR FREEDOM AND A _REAL_ TOMORROW."
I picked Elijah Vegas.
"Wait, what?"
"That wasn't an option."
It's an alternate ending to Dead Money.
"Oh . . . I never saw that. How did it go?"
* Starts playing Seven Nation Army. *
_"Holy shit."_
An offshoot of the Freedom Courier is the only way I can play the game. It’s how I did it instinctively the first time, and I‘ve tried to play other factions but get burnt out way before the dam.
The big difference is how I handle the three actively hostile groups, I dispose of the PG and Fiends, and I cripple the Legion any way I can (without nuclear force). I am an honorary member of the BoS and Boomers, keep the best relationship possible with the NCR, and do every small thing I can to make the Mojave a desert safe haven in the heart of the wasteland.
26:35 me who unwittingly helped the omertas build their bomb cuz i was just messing around the strip
A true independent vegas requires the courier to not solve anything, it just needs caesar, ncr, and house to be taken out
The best hope is the smaller factions to ve allied with however the courier is. (House is still the best hope for this stable land)
Day 4: trash of fallout pt2 when?
WE WANT TRASH Pt 7
Tiered!
Wow we know which ending Bethesda picked obviously the chaos ending
the amount of effort that goes into this is awesome ❤😂🎉😢😮😅😊
Correction for 9:10; the Great Khans were not one of the Vegas tribes. They're descendants of the New Khans from Fallout 2, which were again descendants of the Khans from Fallout.
They, alongside the Jackal and Viper raider gangs found in the game, are actually siblings of the NCR, all hailing from Vault 15.
House had no dealings with the Khans prior to the game. Their arrival was spurred by their conflict with the NCR forcing them to migrate from their ever expanding frontier.
The three families, plus the Kings, are the only surviving Vegas tribes. The rest either fell to other tribes, or were exterminated by House's Securitrons for being incompatible with a civilized society.
Imagine they make the Chaos Courier the cannon ending so when the 2nd season of Fallout airs everything is destroyed and in chaos, and all know it is because of someone that even dwarfs the legion and the NCR in might, Courier Six. And because he launches the nukes at caesar AND the NCR he was the one to destroy shady sands.
He would be, indeed, the Mojave Devil.
At 33:45 you talk about yes man saying to ally to the followers of the apocalypse maybe it’s cause they programmed him so maybe they set a interest for themself set in his code
Better wait until I finish NV before I watch this one, sorry RK
No worries! Enjoy the game!