NOTE. I really appreciate all the replies 💖. All you guys idea and respond to this theory is indeed interesting, some even makes me remember about the quote "two head is better than one" 😅 - I'm fully aware that my conclusion is really odd and BOLD, instead of using word "potentially have similar substance to descender" I just go with the statement "...is remaining of descender" 😂😂hahahaha... hope you enjoy the ride, and perhaps, sparks new theory using the info i've presented here 👀👀👀👀 - ALSOOOO... I just forgot to put additional idea into the video, the idea that, instead of destroying the leyline, it might just suck all the elemental energy from the surrounding & use it as a power supply, resulting anomalies. WELP. it is what it is. - Oh dear heaven above, i just remembered about the black serpent knights underground chasm, they also mention or hint about the divine nail. Mannn, how many piece of info i have already missed 💀 - thanks to @hirods9889 for pointing out some parts about my theory in this video specifically about Gnosis that may lead to the idea that Gnosis has power to cleanse or purifying. In reality, we already encountered several archons like Venti, Nahida, and Mavuika do not use their gnosis to cleanse the abyssal energy.... OR IS IT????. On top of it, the connection was initially about divine nail to the traveler aka. Descender and then Gnosis, so the Gnosis part is just the continuation of it. - thanks to all the replies here that points out, each Descenders might not share the same level of power or rather ability. So just because the traveler, the 4th has purifying power that doesnt mean other descender like 1st, 2nd, and 3th share that ability.
You know actually there was a theory that each nail is charged with an element and that's why the areas where they are got those strage fenomens like freezing, storms, sand storms, etc As how the theory was The cryo Nail was dropped in Mondstadt in Dragonspine thus being the cold freezing area we see The hydro one in the chasm and that's why the coruption looks like mud and there is that strage water in the abandoned city and areas The anemo one in is the one in Sumeru would explain the sand storms and Istaroth( shade of time) was connected to anemo so would make sense why the oasis made by Amun/King Deshert using a celestial device (nail)is stoped in time The one in the Tsurumi island is supposed to be the electro one as an explanation for the thunder storms (it was said that the bird god anger was the reason the sotrms happened but it was at an even more powerful range -so if it was the electro nail it means it could have amplified the effect also that the events in the Tsurumi disaster happened again and again and we see that Istaroth had connections to the electro element and the electro archons as well) As far as the theory goes there was no mention for the other nations but the Natlan one could be the geo or pyro nail Which means that after this theory logic there are left either the geo or pyro nail and the dendro nail for Fontaine and Snezhnaya For Snezhnaya i think of 4 possibilities actually : So firstly Snezhnaya is supposed to be inspired by Russia and some of the other Slavic countries but also by the countries of east Europe like the Balkan countries like Greece, Romania that aren't Slavic countries and thus I had some ideas for a possible celestial nail area: 1) It could just be a Siberian desert (but it would be similar to sumeru at some degree also from the 3 elements left none would really fit but maybe geo) 2) From Ukraine we Could have a Chernobyl and it could fit with maybe the pyro or geo nail if the are also there to purify abyssal eruptions and remants but the concept could also be used as in Fontaine for the research Institute area 3) That's from Romania( my Country) we like have this haunted and popular forest called "Hoia Baciu " where you feel like you are watched and possessed by many horrific creatures or creepy entities with lots of strange fenomens (so it would fit with the abyss eruption and remants part and if the area would be a forest in a snowy nation it would fit with the dendro Nail being dropped there) 4)Just like Liyue, Inazuma or Mondstadt it could be an ancient civilisation area maybe like ancient Greece ruins where the Nail could be
My understanding is that all the nails fell at the same time, after the war between the first and second thrones of the heavens nearly destroyed teyvat. The thunderbird ‘flashback’ in the tsurumi quest mentions multiple objects falling from the sky at the same time one fell on Tsurumi. It seems they were a last ditch effort by celestia to mend the leylines that were ruined by the abyss. It would fit with apep mentioning that a nail fell in Sumeru and turned the original rainforest into a desert long before deshret built his civilization.
I find it interesting that Fontaine is the only nation without a nail, but at the same time the amount of local specialties (everywhere has 9 except Mondstadt which we know will get an expansion and and Fontaine which both have 8, and Liyue had 8 prior to Chenyu Vale) implies Fontaine will get an expansion which most likely will have the house of the hearth and a nail (I think) to match every other region.
And personally, i hope it could connect to primordial water stuff to certain extent... or perhaps they could introduce new things before snezhnaya in Fontaine regarding this nail
I’m pretty sure the house of the hearth is in the hotel bouffes d’ete in the city of Fontaine, but we’re still missing mont esus in western Fontaine where a nail could be. My guess is that it’ll be how we enter Snezhnaya.
I HATE that everyone forgets what was said in the Chasm quest. We learn that "something inside the Khanreian technology opposes the power of the Divine nail." Clearly, that is why Khanrei'ah was destroyed, because it directly clashes with celestial powers.
We know that Khaenriah changed to abyssal power source at some point, since it is "infinite". Before that hey used to use energy blocks made from leyline energy.
The celestial nail has a similar design to the loading screen pillars. If I had to guess, the loading screen is the entrance to teyvat and other worlds. Due to this it’s very important that it’s capable of repelling the abyss. The nails in teyvat seem really old and outdated compared to the ones in the loading screen, so in someway they were broken and repurposed into what they are now. I also think they might work like antibiotics, in the way that they hurt the abyss but also Irminsul, a treatment not a cure. Antibiotics also become less effective over time which is why the current nails are failing and the pillars in the loading screen are updated, the abyss became resistant. Alternatively, if the nails are made from a constellation the damage caused in Dragonspine could be the manifestation of the constellation. Irminsul, is supposed to connect to constellations and manifest them as fate. Since the nail was so close to Dragonspine it likely connected to irminsul and began manifesting as cold weather. The reason it pushed back the abyss was because of the intense elemental energy. The question is whose constellation is it from, and what effect does it have on the person connected to that constellation. I also assume that nails are connected to a strong constellation, so celestia wouldn’t use many because of the effects on teyvat and the person as well as there not being many powerful constellations.
I think you're on the right track. From the information we have about the Nails, they appeared in civilizations that dared to use the abyss. I interpret it as the Nails being there to seal a hole in the abyss that may have been opened, like a needle trying to close a hole in a torn shirt. Why aren't there more Nails? Exactly because of what you pointed out. I believe that the Nails could be the power of some descender or some Shade, just as the Gnosis are the remains of the third descender. And the reason there are only a few is because they are the holes made in the war against the Second who came. It is said that the Nails descended from the heavens to correct the devastation that had been caused by this war, even with the drawbacks such as turning Sumeru into a great desert. That's why in the cataclysm no Nails descended to correct the problem, and the archons had to sacrifice themselves to save Teyvat. For example, it's no wonder that Makoto turned into a tree. If you notice, in many regions of the game we have a "tree" to interact with and give resources to. Just as we also have statues of the gods throughout Teyvat that we also interact with and give resources to. In both cases, the tree and the statue "evolve" as they level up. For me, all of this was planted in time-space a long time ago in the plan to save Teyvat from whoever it is, they are clearly defense resources. All these changes in time-space that should not happen are in some way interfering and trying to change the destiny of the world.
hmmm... that's really interesting view... this makes me wonder if the Heaven is indeed not being at very good position right now. Like, they seems to have less and less option to encounter this war against the abyss. Even with the plan you mentioned, involving time-space thingy, it feels take a lot of, how i should say this, hmmm compensation along the way i might say, you know for the greater good.... but yeah, once again, let's hope the dev gives us more lore and info regarding this topic 👀👀
If the Samsara theory is correct, and each cycle does something different trying to change the fate of the world (also known as the destruction of the world), those things that were done in the cycle that was reset would remain using the power of, for example, Istaroth. Just as a Sakura Tree was planted, but it was as if it always existed for everyone, I believe the same happened with the other trees. Depending on who was in the MC's place in each reset, each person did something different to try to change the world. Nails must probably be Phanes or one of his Shades. The archon statues are post-war archon statues, but apparently use the same "blue" power that Nails has to repel the abyss. We have confirmation that Sacred Sakura is Makoto's "consciousness" and Amrita Pool is Egeria's "consciousness", both the first archons of their regions. Lucine's Fountain has the consciousness of several oceanids. Tree of Dreams is the planted body of Araja, the elder of the Aranaras and probably even has a hand in this from the sibling, since they interacted in the past. As for “trees” from other regions we don’t have much information, in fact almost no information other than “level up and get free resources”. They remind me a lot of the Focalors’ plan to accumulate power in Oratrice for centuries so they can then use it for x specific purpose. We should only have more information about this when we are close to the end of the world and Samsara resets the world again. Another thing that reminded me are the objects that contained “memories” in Natlan’s AQ, which could serve as fuel to generate energy for the archon.
Watched it! Had the same thoughts about the Nail being the one that sustains at least has a part to play in the Night Kingdom, knowing what we witness in the Chasm Bed, it has some power that can influence human souls, since the souls of millelith soldiers were trapped there.
yeah it seems like there's connection to it, but at the same time, we need a clear confirmation about that, cause all we have done now is still a speculation. SURELY, the dev will explain it in the future patches... 👀
My theory is that Divine Nails are made of a divine tree. Specifically, the tree that was cut down in the Parable of the Tree to repair the temple or something like that. Which is why their properties are similar to that of Irminsul. Thank you for recapping the chasm events. For a long time I thought that each nail is related to one of the Shades (assuming artifact theory is true): the nail in Sumeru is a nail of wind and time, Istaroth. A moment perfectly preserved against time. The nail in Chasm sealing the chaotic space. The nail in Natlan creating an afterlife, an area of responsibility of Shade of Death. But with your recap, it became clear that the chaotic space was not restricted just to space.
yeah, i have heard about theory of Divine Nail from a certain tree, but i'm not really sure where and how that theoy are formed so i did not include it in this video XD... my bad hehehe, but thanks tho for the sharing here. regarding each nail, it feels like there is something connect them all, what i mean is, they seems to share some similarity as a whole.
@@hellozenn The part that gives weight to the proto-Irminsul theory, is that in Guili Assembly, people were already building perfectly good buildings. And yet later, in Liyue Harbor, Rex Lapis was teaching them to build houses, using Mora as a teaching aid. There is a great memory hole that hides everything that was before the Archon War, and it seems to be greater than just no witnesses still alive.
I think celestial nails and archon statues are made of the same thing. Big solidified masses of elemental energy. Likely as nexus points on the leylines. And the archon statues specifically gather elemental energy of each element of the region. (So Anemo for mondstadt, etc). And they do this to direct energy to the gnoses of each region and keep the elemental energy of the land in check. So the archon statues are gather energy from the land and send it to the gnosis, which keeps a dragon’s elemental authority in check and empowers the archon of each region. Since the archons are supposed to be essentially Celestia’s henchmen, it makes sense for Celestia to give them a method of retaining power. Otherwise the dragons might be able to gather it (like how apep can store more and more dendro energy) and eventually retake their authorities by force. So the celestial nails and archon statues stop this from happening. I essentially think they’re a way to suppress the dragons and power the gnoses. And as a side benefit, they can also be emergency anti-abyss measures, since elemental energy and abyssal energy repel each other. Also remember that elemental energy and memories are directly interchangeable in Genshin. Meaning MEMORIES can be used to repel the abyss and power a gnosis.
You what, I had a bad feeling about Traveler is releasing Celestia Nail in Dragonspine into the air, and 4.8 foreshadow Durin resurrection because Albedo told us that Durin remnant is revitalized 😐
I never believed in the punishment theory. My theory is that the nails were dropped by whoever was in celestia at the time(they literaly look like pillars of a building) we know that apep had a nail drop directly on her head when she became contaminated with the forbidden knowledge. Whether they were all dropped at the same time or different times due to outbreaks is another thing. I also think that the withered irmunsul branches show the biggest reason why: those parts of irmunsul had be co-opted into doing something else than what they should have been doing and were cleansed in desperation. Likely from "the second who came's" attack on the primordial one (that we know damaged it's functions). We know after that event the third descender was broken into the gnosis parts with help from another entity which then formed the new order of teyvat.
My current theory is that the Divine Nails, Gnosis/ Archon System and Statues of The Seven/Teleport waypoints all act as part of a system to reinforce Teyvat's Laylines. I made a similar post somewhere else, but the laylines are memories and tied to the world tree of Irminsul. So anyone capable of using the Waypoints most likely alters the memories of those around them to never notice that function. But i think the action of them being waypoints are just a secondary feature, its a more wider area linchpin network over a larger area of effect. While traveling across Teyvat, a throw away action of our travels is fighting layline disruptions and restoring power to the "Statues of The Seven".
i think divine nails could be made of a special type of plaustrite (floating stone). we know from Zhongli's second story quest that stones can hold memories, and divine nails must be very good at it because they seem to consume forbidden knowledge from outside
Owh you mean there's potentially a special stone that made up the divine nail and for some reasons share similar characteristic power of descender.... hmmm interesting
Wait didn't venti said to Venesa something about using blood for rivers and other things to create the world ... a big sacrifice ... Venesa body created the big tree we see in mondstadt 😮😮😮
Your analysis of the purple crystal and its appearance has some accuracy and parallel with what happened to King Deshret. In that one cutscene that tells of Greater Lord and King Deshret's fight against the forbidden knowledge, it is said that along with Greater Lord's power, King Deshret sacrificed himself in the end, and in that cutscene a purple crystal was shown, maybe symbolizing himself. We all know that King Deshret also came in contact with a certain crystal (not mentioned as divine nail in game) but he used its power to create that space frozen in time for the Goddess of Flower. Just like that weird space in Chasm. Both spaces can manipulate time and even rewind it to a certain extent. What if, whoever dropped the nails was also trying to control time, not just to purify but to put things back in order, and eventually decided to stop after witnessing mankind repeat the same mistakes anyway, even in new samsara.
so from your view, the Heaven initially dropped the nail to put those civilzations into order but after awhile, they realized what they did becomes less effective?
@@hellozenn Yes. Coz if i remember it right, the skyfrost nail fell when people of Sal Vindagnyr started to have the desire, or maybe even found a way to achieve divinity. The nail did not only erase the civilization there, it deleted them from history too coz the white tree withered not long after the nail fell. Good thing the princess drew murals and those tombstones helped keep records of their time. This happened prior to fall of Khaenria so that nail couldn't be targeting abyssal energy or creatures. I'm not sure about the timeline but is it possible that they stopped dropping nails and decided to assign the archons instead? Was Zhongli already the geo archon when chasm nail dropped?
@@lulu-jpg to point out, abyssal energy already exist since the very beginning, so it's not exclusive to Khaenriah. and one way to achieve divinity is to borrow power from beyond which is, sometimes, refer to the abyss. for the timeline, yeah, it is still confusing hahahaha.... I think the archon war is the Heaven's plan to get rest you know XD and let their subbordinate do the stuffs aka. the selective winner of the war.
@@hellozenn Ur right about the abyssal energy, maybe i just assumed it from the way they reacted when they heard about a certain developed godless nation, as if the idea of the abyss was foreign to them. But ur right that it will still eventually end up with them using power from beyond coz it seemed like the envoys were helping them too.
@@lulu-jpg now the thing is, the information within the game is kinda all over the place hahahah... one said this, that book said that, and this person said etc.... so yeah, let's hope in Natlan somewhat gives us the idea behind all of this, espcially, in this context of the video, about Divine Nail, which we already knew, it exists within the Night Kingdom... now that's a juicy stuff XD
This is my imagination: the divine nail is our power, or our brother/sister, because we have a skill that can cleanse the power of the abyss, similar to the divine nail fragments in Sumeru City that absorbed the abyss' power until it turned purple. Another thing is that we can interact with the divine nail even though it has been there for hundreds of years. At the beginning of the game, we were blocked by Kiana, probably in order to borrow this power to help in the war with the abyss 500 years ago. I repeat, pure imagination.
however, there is one problem, the nails began to fall for thousands of years, Apep, Nabu malikata and Salvindagnir, they all existed long before us, and they were all hit by a nail.
i think the blue crystal is the same crystal on the statue of the sevens and maybe also the square blue crystals scattered around dragonspine caves?? but that might just be ice.
aside from my conclusion of this video. There seems to be a connection among the stuff that we both mentioned here, like that blue crystal thingy.... which interestingly enough, quite remind me of that one constellation stone... it's either these stuff has the same origin or perhaps share some kind of intrinsict substances....
I think that Celestial Nails are just Abyssal Power purifiers that work by using Leylines as power source, that is why they cause all sorts of catastrophes, since leylines get too weak. Reason why Celestia has not dropped new ones for a while is either that there has not been big enough Abyssal crack or that Celestia is offline.
Elemental energy and memories are both energies that can counter Abyss. Leylines are filled with both. When Nail appears it causes Leylines to start acting up. Therefore I think that it would not be too far fetched to think that a Nail uses Leyline energy to combat Abyss energy.
Nah, I think the nails are meant to be a way to ward off the abyss. It seems like it's made for order or reconstruction. Mythologies seem to point to nails or fingernails as a form of the death or for protection, boundaries, OR to ward off spells. So assuming the Genshin writer team is basing this off of their research from other mythologies makes me think is one of the them or a combination. Just remember, gods or people who mess with with Irminsul and the time line, can also change attitudes of people and manipulate leylines like the Loom of Fate. That is scary that an enemy can change your memory of something that is not how it happened, but a do over. So, I think it may be a misunderstanding between Celestia and Khaneriah because of the Abyss.
is more than obvious, the "divine punishment" is to aloof to be a true punishment, is more like an adjecent thing with the true purpose being more important, so that idea was more venting ire than a truth
im not sure where it was mentioned, but the gnosis were made from the remains of the 3rd descender, i don't think those remains were also used for the nails. As for celestia not throwing down more nails, Celestia has been dormant for a while.
the statement "the gnosis were made from the remains of the 3rd descender" is actually came from Neuvi who gets that info from Skirk, and then share to us, the Traveler, at the end of Fontaine archon quest act 5. if you mean by the nails weren't made from "remains" of 3rd descender, yes, potentially. In this video, i suggest that, perhaps, these nails was like came from other descender like 1st or 2nd. But since i used the word "remains" here, well, it can be debatable. so yeah, sure, i can see one might not think if that is not the case. as for throwing down nail, hmmm, yeah, we can see on that angle. overall. nice. really appreciate the comment 🔥🔥🔥🔥
On the celestia model, we can see that there's 2 nails remain's. (We know that celestia dropped nails (1 in natlan), (2 in li yue), (1 in inazuma), (1 in sumeru dessert) 2 remaining nails on the model were probably planned to be dropped in foutaine and Snezhnaya. And if we count all those nails (including on the model) there's 7 of them.
So I'm sorry to break your understanding a little but while your theory could still be correct you have some wrong infos 1) the info: 1 celestial nail in Dragonspine-Mondstadt 1 celestial nail in Tsurumi Island-Inazuma 1 celestial nail in Center Sumeru Desert in the Sandstorm 1 Celestial Nail in that Natlan area And 1 Celestial Nail in the Chasm-Liyue (if you think there is a 2nd in the Chenyu Vale it's not true the people of chenyu vale are actually the descendants of the civilisation that lived in the Chasm area before the Nail was dropped so the inscriptions found in Chenyu vale are showing predictions or happenings during the moment when the Nail got dropped in the Chasm) 2) Not to say that your theory could not happen but there is also a possibility that the celestial nail is in the Northen area of Fontaine which hasn't appeared yet so yeah or how you said the Nail could be dropped there now (despite the Nails supposedly being thrown together at the same time)
This is such an interresting theory and I love it !! Tho we know that Vedrfolnir gained Abyssal power to be able to do what he do so its unlikely to be Celestial in origins.
yeah, although it is interesting theory, I do admit the conclusion is kinda bold 😅... my idea about Vedrfolnir, was like, it got mixed power... so to certain extent it has both celetial and abyssal power.
Do we know he gained Abyssal power? Apart from him looking purple, I mean. We do know that the Sinners shared between themselves a power that can destroy the world. And those nails certainly look powerful enough for such a description.
@@kotarouinugami1745 yes, i think so. If we look back at Caribert quest, that quest literally told us how the abyss order was formed. And Absys Order is always associated withe the power of the abyss. Also, at that quest, Clothar even said: "You saw it too, didn't you? Unmistakable... The power inside Caribert and the power of the one you call a "Sinner," it was one and the same..." "I am positive now... it's the power of the Abyss, isn't it?" "...And the one who controls the Abyss can control everything!"
@@kotarouinugami1745 to add more: Dainsleif even said this: "Yet, deep within, the five of them craved something more. They could not resist the call of the Abyss, and divided among themselves a power that could destroy the world." if Dain doesnt count as most reliable person when it comes to such matters, and you might think it is still not enough.... Then what you seek here is the Objective Statement from ingame itself such as description that not include any point of view, just state of a fact, or a direct statement come from that purple crystal itself. If that is what you mean, then the answer is NO, not yet at least. There is NO any objective statement regarding that Purple Crystal 100% Pretty sure has the power of the abyss. All what we know comes from other people view or indication toward it, which is subjective.
Fair enough, but the mystery still remains... how can a random stone or like pillar has that kind of power? Which similar to our traveler, the 4th descender. Similar to Gnosis. Just food for thought... 🧩🧩
@@hellozenn well as for now, gnosis don't have any purifying abilities. They only enhanced elemental powers. And the gnosis are literally chess pieces. It's not crazy that they may be a being remains. But the nails are literally bigger than houses so if they are remains, that being must have been HUGE. Which I doubt totally
yes it is, as of now, there's no info if Gnosis has purifying abilities. My connection was from Divine Nail to The Traveler then to Gnosis initially. as for the remains, if it means typical body corps, i dont think chess piece looks like body corps either, unless that corps are transformed. Perhaps, i might use the wrong term here, the remains that i use here, refer to the essence or substance that left by decesnder, so it can embedded or transfer into something else. Really appreciate your respond 🔥🔥
@@hellozenn from albedo SQ, traveler seem to be of a different constitution than regular teyvat humans, so I wonder if it have anything to do with that
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I really appreciate all the replies 💖. All you guys idea and respond to this theory is indeed interesting, some even makes me remember about the quote "two head is better than one" 😅
- I'm fully aware that my conclusion is really odd and BOLD, instead of using word "potentially have similar substance to descender" I just go with the statement "...is remaining of descender" 😂😂hahahaha... hope you enjoy the ride, and perhaps, sparks new theory using the info i've presented here 👀👀👀👀
- ALSOOOO... I just forgot to put additional idea into the video, the idea that, instead of destroying the leyline, it might just suck all the elemental energy from the surrounding & use it as a power supply, resulting anomalies. WELP. it is what it is.
- Oh dear heaven above, i just remembered about the black serpent knights underground chasm, they also mention or hint about the divine nail. Mannn, how many piece of info i have already missed 💀
- thanks to @hirods9889 for pointing out some parts about my theory in this video specifically about Gnosis that may lead to the idea that Gnosis has power to cleanse or purifying. In reality, we already encountered several archons like Venti, Nahida, and Mavuika do not use their gnosis to cleanse the abyssal energy.... OR IS IT????. On top of it, the connection was initially about divine nail to the traveler aka. Descender and then Gnosis, so the Gnosis part is just the continuation of it.
- thanks to all the replies here that points out, each Descenders might not share the same level of power or rather ability. So just because the traveler, the 4th has purifying power that doesnt mean other descender like 1st, 2nd, and 3th share that ability.
You know actually there was a theory that each nail is charged with an element and that's why the areas where they are got those strage fenomens like freezing, storms, sand storms, etc
As how the theory was
The cryo Nail was dropped in Mondstadt in Dragonspine thus being the cold freezing area we see
The hydro one in the chasm and that's why the coruption looks like mud and there is that strage water in the abandoned city and areas
The anemo one in is the one in Sumeru would explain the sand storms and Istaroth( shade of time) was connected to anemo so would make sense why the oasis made by Amun/King Deshert using a celestial device (nail)is stoped in time
The one in the Tsurumi island is supposed to be the electro one as an explanation for the thunder storms (it was said that the bird god anger was the reason the sotrms happened but it was at an even more powerful range -so if it was the electro nail it means it could have amplified the effect also that the events in the Tsurumi disaster happened again and again and we see that Istaroth had connections to the electro element and the electro archons as well)
As far as the theory goes there was no mention for the other nations but the Natlan one could be the geo or pyro nail
Which means that after this theory logic there are left either the geo or pyro nail and the dendro nail for Fontaine and Snezhnaya
For Snezhnaya i think of 4 possibilities actually :
So firstly Snezhnaya is supposed to be inspired by Russia and some of the other Slavic countries but also by the countries of east Europe like the Balkan countries like Greece, Romania that aren't Slavic countries and thus I had some ideas for a possible celestial nail area:
1) It could just be a Siberian desert (but it would be similar to sumeru at some degree also from the 3 elements left none would really fit but maybe geo)
2) From Ukraine we Could have a Chernobyl and it could fit with maybe the pyro or geo nail if the are also there to purify abyssal eruptions and remants but the concept could also be used as in Fontaine for the research Institute area
3) That's from Romania( my Country) we like have this haunted and popular forest called "Hoia Baciu " where you feel like you are watched and possessed by many horrific creatures or creepy entities with lots of strange fenomens (so it would fit with the abyss eruption and remants part and if the area would be a forest in a snowy nation it would fit with the dendro Nail being dropped there)
4)Just like Liyue, Inazuma or Mondstadt it could be an ancient civilisation area maybe like ancient Greece ruins where the Nail could be
Hmmm... this is interesting perspective to see the nail's power in that regard. Noted.
My understanding is that all the nails fell at the same time, after the war between the first and second thrones of the heavens nearly destroyed teyvat. The thunderbird ‘flashback’ in the tsurumi quest mentions multiple objects falling from the sky at the same time one fell on Tsurumi. It seems they were a last ditch effort by celestia to mend the leylines that were ruined by the abyss. It would fit with apep mentioning that a nail fell in Sumeru and turned the original rainforest into a desert long before deshret built his civilization.
so it is still an effort to fight the abyssal energy huh... humu humu noted.
I find it interesting that Fontaine is the only nation without a nail, but at the same time the amount of local specialties (everywhere has 9 except Mondstadt which we know will get an expansion and and Fontaine which both have 8, and Liyue had 8 prior to Chenyu Vale) implies Fontaine will get an expansion which most likely will have the house of the hearth and a nail (I think) to match every other region.
And personally, i hope it could connect to primordial water stuff to certain extent... or perhaps they could introduce new things before snezhnaya in Fontaine regarding this nail
@@hellozenn It would be a great explanation for why vision users can breathe underwater there too!
it seems like according to the records he was in Remuria
I’m pretty sure the house of the hearth is in the hotel bouffes d’ete in the city of Fontaine, but we’re still missing mont esus in western Fontaine where a nail could be. My guess is that it’ll be how we enter Snezhnaya.
@@flyingghostsandwich also that would be cool if there's some fatui trying to investigate the nail
I HATE that everyone forgets what was said in the Chasm quest. We learn that "something inside the Khanreian technology opposes the power of the Divine nail." Clearly, that is why Khanrei'ah was destroyed, because it directly clashes with celestial powers.
We know that Khaenriah changed to abyssal power source at some point, since it is "infinite". Before that hey used to use energy blocks made from leyline energy.
Divine Nails aren't meant to destroy. They're meant to mend the land from the war after the third descender. Dur lmao
The amount of people that haven't realized Teyvat is a data collection of memories and a past civilization. We're playing memories. Not a live story.
The celestial nail has a similar design to the loading screen pillars. If I had to guess, the loading screen is the entrance to teyvat and other worlds. Due to this it’s very important that it’s capable of repelling the abyss. The nails in teyvat seem really old and outdated compared to the ones in the loading screen, so in someway they were broken and repurposed into what they are now.
I also think they might work like antibiotics, in the way that they hurt the abyss but also Irminsul, a treatment not a cure. Antibiotics also become less effective over time which is why the current nails are failing and the pillars in the loading screen are updated, the abyss became resistant.
Alternatively, if the nails are made from a constellation the damage caused in Dragonspine could be the manifestation of the constellation.
Irminsul, is supposed to connect to constellations and manifest them as fate. Since the nail was so close to Dragonspine it likely connected to irminsul and began manifesting as cold weather.
The reason it pushed back the abyss was because of the intense elemental energy.
The question is whose constellation is it from, and what effect does it have on the person connected to that constellation.
I also assume that nails are connected to a strong constellation, so celestia wouldn’t use many because of the effects on teyvat and the person as well as there not being many powerful constellations.
I think you're on the right track. From the information we have about the Nails, they appeared in civilizations that dared to use the abyss. I interpret it as the Nails being there to seal a hole in the abyss that may have been opened, like a needle trying to close a hole in a torn shirt. Why aren't there more Nails? Exactly because of what you pointed out. I believe that the Nails could be the power of some descender or some Shade, just as the Gnosis are the remains of the third descender. And the reason there are only a few is because they are the holes made in the war against the Second who came. It is said that the Nails descended from the heavens to correct the devastation that had been caused by this war, even with the drawbacks such as turning Sumeru into a great desert. That's why in the cataclysm no Nails descended to correct the problem, and the archons had to sacrifice themselves to save Teyvat. For example, it's no wonder that Makoto turned into a tree. If you notice, in many regions of the game we have a "tree" to interact with and give resources to. Just as we also have statues of the gods throughout Teyvat that we also interact with and give resources to. In both cases, the tree and the statue "evolve" as they level up. For me, all of this was planted in time-space a long time ago in the plan to save Teyvat from whoever it is, they are clearly defense resources. All these changes in time-space that should not happen are in some way interfering and trying to change the destiny of the world.
hmmm... that's really interesting view... this makes me wonder if the Heaven is indeed not being at very good position right now. Like, they seems to have less and less option to encounter this war against the abyss. Even with the plan you mentioned, involving time-space thingy, it feels take a lot of, how i should say this, hmmm compensation along the way i might say, you know for the greater good.... but yeah, once again, let's hope the dev gives us more lore and info regarding this topic 👀👀
If the Samsara theory is correct, and each cycle does something different trying to change the fate of the world (also known as the destruction of the world), those things that were done in the cycle that was reset would remain using the power of, for example, Istaroth. Just as a Sakura Tree was planted, but it was as if it always existed for everyone, I believe the same happened with the other trees. Depending on who was in the MC's place in each reset, each person did something different to try to change the world. Nails must probably be Phanes or one of his Shades. The archon statues are post-war archon statues, but apparently use the same "blue" power that Nails has to repel the abyss. We have confirmation that Sacred Sakura is Makoto's "consciousness" and Amrita Pool is Egeria's "consciousness", both the first archons of their regions. Lucine's Fountain has the consciousness of several oceanids. Tree of Dreams is the planted body of Araja, the elder of the Aranaras and probably even has a hand in this from the sibling, since they interacted in the past. As for “trees” from other regions we don’t have much information, in fact almost no information other than “level up and get free resources”. They remind me a lot of the Focalors’ plan to accumulate power in Oratrice for centuries so they can then use it for x specific purpose. We should only have more information about this when we are close to the end of the world and Samsara resets the world again. Another thing that reminded me are the objects that contained “memories” in Natlan’s AQ, which could serve as fuel to generate energy for the archon.
@@raniericardoso4986 wow, shesshh, pretty interesting view here.... i gonna take a note here 👀👀👀👀
appreciate the comment 🔥🔥
Watched it! Had the same thoughts about the Nail being the one that sustains at least has a part to play in the Night Kingdom, knowing what we witness in the Chasm Bed, it has some power that can influence human souls, since the souls of millelith soldiers were trapped there.
yeah it seems like there's connection to it, but at the same time, we need a clear confirmation about that, cause all we have done now is still a speculation. SURELY, the dev will explain it in the future patches... 👀
the souls of people are in the space under the nail. Where Itto, Yelan, Xiao and the others ended up, the nail only blocked the entrance there
My theory is that Divine Nails are made of a divine tree. Specifically, the tree that was cut down in the Parable of the Tree to repair the temple or something like that. Which is why their properties are similar to that of Irminsul.
Thank you for recapping the chasm events. For a long time I thought that each nail is related to one of the Shades (assuming artifact theory is true): the nail in Sumeru is a nail of wind and time, Istaroth. A moment perfectly preserved against time. The nail in Chasm sealing the chaotic space. The nail in Natlan creating an afterlife, an area of responsibility of Shade of Death.
But with your recap, it became clear that the chaotic space was not restricted just to space.
yeah, i have heard about theory of Divine Nail from a certain tree, but i'm not really sure where and how that theoy are formed so i did not include it in this video XD... my bad hehehe, but thanks tho for the sharing here.
regarding each nail, it feels like there is something connect them all, what i mean is, they seems to share some similarity as a whole.
@@hellozenn The part that gives weight to the proto-Irminsul theory, is that in Guili Assembly, people were already building perfectly good buildings. And yet later, in Liyue Harbor, Rex Lapis was teaching them to build houses, using Mora as a teaching aid.
There is a great memory hole that hides everything that was before the Archon War, and it seems to be greater than just no witnesses still alive.
@@kotarouinugami1745 hmmmm interesting.... i need to do further investigaion on this matter. Thanks.
I think celestial nails and archon statues are made of the same thing. Big solidified masses of elemental energy. Likely as nexus points on the leylines. And the archon statues specifically gather elemental energy of each element of the region. (So Anemo for mondstadt, etc). And they do this to direct energy to the gnoses of each region and keep the elemental energy of the land in check. So the archon statues are gather energy from the land and send it to the gnosis, which keeps a dragon’s elemental authority in check and empowers the archon of each region. Since the archons are supposed to be essentially Celestia’s henchmen, it makes sense for Celestia to give them a method of retaining power. Otherwise the dragons might be able to gather it (like how apep can store more and more dendro energy) and eventually retake their authorities by force. So the celestial nails and archon statues stop this from happening.
I essentially think they’re a way to suppress the dragons and power the gnoses. And as a side benefit, they can also be emergency anti-abyss measures, since elemental energy and abyssal energy repel each other.
Also remember that elemental energy and memories are directly interchangeable in Genshin. Meaning MEMORIES can be used to repel the abyss and power a gnosis.
Wow, really interesting observation here... i wonder what you said here could appear or mention in the next 5.1 archon quest... hmmm
You what, I had a bad feeling about Traveler is releasing Celestia Nail in Dragonspine into the air, and 4.8 foreshadow Durin resurrection because Albedo told us that Durin remnant is revitalized 😐
at this point, just let genshin dev cook with that story 🔥🔥🔥🔥... also, let's hope this winter to be Albedo story again uhuk uhuk
Except that the nail fell on Dragonspine much earlier than Durin.
I never believed in the punishment theory. My theory is that the nails were dropped by whoever was in celestia at the time(they literaly look like pillars of a building) we know that apep had a nail drop directly on her head when she became contaminated with the forbidden knowledge. Whether they were all dropped at the same time or different times due to outbreaks is another thing. I also think that the withered irmunsul branches show the biggest reason why: those parts of irmunsul had be co-opted into doing something else than what they should have been doing and were cleansed in desperation. Likely from "the second who came's" attack on the primordial one (that we know damaged it's functions). We know after that event the third descender was broken into the gnosis parts with help from another entity which then formed the new order of teyvat.
My current theory is that the Divine Nails, Gnosis/ Archon System and Statues of The Seven/Teleport waypoints all act as part of a system to reinforce Teyvat's Laylines. I made a similar post somewhere else, but the laylines are memories and tied to the world tree of Irminsul. So anyone capable of using the Waypoints most likely alters the memories of those around them to never notice that function. But i think the action of them being waypoints are just a secondary feature, its a more wider area linchpin network over a larger area of effect. While traveling across Teyvat, a throw away action of our travels is fighting layline disruptions and restoring power to the "Statues of The Seven".
i think divine nails could be made of a special type of plaustrite (floating stone). we know from Zhongli's second story quest that stones can hold memories, and divine nails must be very good at it because they seem to consume forbidden knowledge from outside
Owh you mean there's potentially a special stone that made up the divine nail and for some reasons share similar characteristic power of descender.... hmmm interesting
Nabu Malikata called them sapphiated
Wait didn't venti said to Venesa something about using blood for rivers and other things to create the world ... a big sacrifice ... Venesa body created the big tree we see in mondstadt 😮😮😮
yes, in the Geshin Web Comic page 69, Venti indeed ever mentioned the name Pangu and Purusha for the creation of the world....
Wait, wouldn’t this mean that the Unknown God could be hunting descenders and thus using them as materials to control teyvat?
If you see in that view, then yeah potentially
Your analysis of the purple crystal and its appearance has some accuracy and parallel with what happened to King Deshret. In that one cutscene that tells of Greater Lord and King Deshret's fight against the forbidden knowledge, it is said that along with Greater Lord's power, King Deshret sacrificed himself in the end, and in that cutscene a purple crystal was shown, maybe symbolizing himself. We all know that King Deshret also came in contact with a certain crystal (not mentioned as divine nail in game) but he used its power to create that space frozen in time for the Goddess of Flower. Just like that weird space in Chasm. Both spaces can manipulate time and even rewind it to a certain extent.
What if, whoever dropped the nails was also trying to control time, not just to purify but to put things back in order, and eventually decided to stop after witnessing mankind repeat the same mistakes anyway, even in new samsara.
so from your view, the Heaven initially dropped the nail to put those civilzations into order but after awhile, they realized what they did becomes less effective?
@@hellozenn Yes. Coz if i remember it right, the skyfrost nail fell when people of Sal Vindagnyr started to have the desire, or maybe even found a way to achieve divinity. The nail did not only erase the civilization there, it deleted them from history too coz the white tree withered not long after the nail fell. Good thing the princess drew murals and those tombstones helped keep records of their time. This happened prior to fall of Khaenria so that nail couldn't be targeting abyssal energy or creatures. I'm not sure about the timeline but is it possible that they stopped dropping nails and decided to assign the archons instead? Was Zhongli already the geo archon when chasm nail dropped?
@@lulu-jpg to point out, abyssal energy already exist since the very beginning, so it's not exclusive to Khaenriah. and one way to achieve divinity is to borrow power from beyond which is, sometimes, refer to the abyss.
for the timeline, yeah, it is still confusing hahahaha....
I think the archon war is the Heaven's plan to get rest you know XD and let their subbordinate do the stuffs aka. the selective winner of the war.
@@hellozenn Ur right about the abyssal energy, maybe i just assumed it from the way they reacted when they heard about a certain developed godless nation, as if the idea of the abyss was foreign to them. But ur right that it will still eventually end up with them using power from beyond coz it seemed like the envoys were helping them too.
@@lulu-jpg now the thing is, the information within the game is kinda all over the place hahahah... one said this, that book said that, and this person said etc....
so yeah, let's hope in Natlan somewhat gives us the idea behind all of this, espcially, in this context of the video, about Divine Nail, which we already knew, it exists within the Night Kingdom... now that's a juicy stuff XD
This is my imagination: the divine nail is our power, or our brother/sister, because we have a skill that can cleanse the power of the abyss, similar to the divine nail fragments in Sumeru City that absorbed the abyss' power until it turned purple. Another thing is that we can interact with the divine nail even though it has been there for hundreds of years. At the beginning of the game, we were blocked by Kiana, probably in order to borrow this power to help in the war with the abyss 500 years ago. I repeat, pure imagination.
That's quite imagination of yours.... nice
however, there is one problem, the nails began to fall for thousands of years, Apep, Nabu malikata and Salvindagnir, they all existed long before us, and they were all hit by a nail.
@@KelumKey maybe use our power for just activate it
i think the blue crystal is the same crystal on the statue of the sevens
and maybe also the square blue crystals scattered around dragonspine caves?? but that might just be ice.
aside from my conclusion of this video. There seems to be a connection among the stuff that we both mentioned here, like that blue crystal thingy.... which interestingly enough, quite remind me of that one constellation stone... it's either these stuff has the same origin or perhaps share some kind of intrinsict substances....
I think that Celestial Nails are just Abyssal Power purifiers that work by using Leylines as power source, that is why they cause all sorts of catastrophes, since leylines get too weak. Reason why Celestia has not dropped new ones for a while is either that there has not been big enough Abyssal crack or that Celestia is offline.
Elemental energy and memories are both energies that can counter Abyss. Leylines are filled with both. When Nail appears it causes Leylines to start acting up. Therefore I think that it would not be too far fetched to think that a Nail uses Leyline energy to combat Abyss energy.
Nah, I think the nails are meant to be a way to ward off the abyss. It seems like it's made for order or reconstruction. Mythologies seem to point to nails or fingernails as a form of the death or for protection, boundaries, OR to ward off spells. So assuming the Genshin writer team is basing this off of their research from other mythologies makes me think is one of the them or a combination. Just remember, gods or people who mess with with Irminsul and the time line, can also change attitudes of people and manipulate leylines like the Loom of Fate. That is scary that an enemy can change your memory of something that is not how it happened, but a do over. So, I think it may be a misunderstanding between Celestia and Khaneriah because of the Abyss.
is more than obvious, the "divine punishment" is to aloof to be a true punishment, is more like an adjecent thing with the true purpose being more important, so that idea was more venting ire than a truth
im not sure where it was mentioned, but the gnosis were made from the remains of the 3rd descender, i don't think those remains were also used for the nails.
As for celestia not throwing down more nails, Celestia has been dormant for a while.
the statement "the gnosis were made from the remains of the 3rd descender" is actually came from Neuvi who gets that info from Skirk, and then share to us, the Traveler, at the end of Fontaine archon quest act 5.
if you mean by the nails weren't made from "remains" of 3rd descender, yes, potentially. In this video, i suggest that, perhaps, these nails was like came from other descender like 1st or 2nd. But since i used the word "remains" here, well, it can be debatable. so yeah, sure, i can see one might not think if that is not the case.
as for throwing down nail, hmmm, yeah, we can see on that angle.
overall. nice. really appreciate the comment 🔥🔥🔥🔥
On the celestia model, we can see that there's 2 nails remain's.
(We know that celestia dropped nails (1 in natlan), (2 in li yue), (1 in inazuma), (1 in sumeru dessert)
2 remaining nails on the model were probably planned to be dropped in foutaine and Snezhnaya. And if we count all those nails (including on the model) there's 7 of them.
So I'm sorry to break your understanding a little but while your theory could still be correct you have some wrong infos
1) the info:
1 celestial nail in Dragonspine-Mondstadt
1 celestial nail in Tsurumi Island-Inazuma
1 celestial nail in Center Sumeru Desert in the Sandstorm
1 Celestial Nail in that Natlan area
And 1 Celestial Nail in the Chasm-Liyue (if you think there is a 2nd in the Chenyu Vale it's not true the people of chenyu vale are actually the descendants of the civilisation that lived in the Chasm area before the Nail was dropped so the inscriptions found in Chenyu vale are showing predictions or happenings during the moment when the Nail got dropped in the Chasm)
2) Not to say that your theory could not happen but there is also a possibility that the celestial nail is in the Northen area of Fontaine which hasn't appeared yet so yeah or how you said the Nail could be dropped there now (despite the Nails supposedly being thrown together at the same time)
This is such an interresting theory and I love it !! Tho we know that Vedrfolnir gained Abyssal power to be able to do what he do so its unlikely to be Celestial in origins.
yeah, although it is interesting theory, I do admit the conclusion is kinda bold 😅... my idea about Vedrfolnir, was like, it got mixed power... so to certain extent it has both celetial and abyssal power.
Do we know he gained Abyssal power? Apart from him looking purple, I mean.
We do know that the Sinners shared between themselves a power that can destroy the world. And those nails certainly look powerful enough for such a description.
@@kotarouinugami1745 yes, i think so. If we look back at Caribert quest, that quest literally told us how the abyss order was formed. And Absys Order is always associated withe the power of the abyss.
Also, at that quest, Clothar even said:
"You saw it too, didn't you? Unmistakable... The power inside Caribert and the power of the one you call a "Sinner," it was one and the same..."
"I am positive now... it's the power of the Abyss, isn't it?"
"...And the one who controls the Abyss can control everything!"
@@hellozenn True. Even though Clothar isn't the most reliable person when it comes to such matters.
@@kotarouinugami1745 to add more:
Dainsleif even said this:
"Yet, deep within, the five of them craved something more. They could not resist the call of the Abyss, and divided among themselves a power that could destroy the world."
if Dain doesnt count as most reliable person when it comes to such matters, and you might think it is still not enough....
Then what you seek here is the Objective Statement from ingame itself such as description that not include any point of view, just state of a fact, or a direct statement come from that purple crystal itself. If that is what you mean, then the answer is NO, not yet at least. There is NO any objective statement regarding that Purple Crystal 100% Pretty sure has the power of the abyss. All what we know comes from other people view or indication toward it, which is subjective.
I call these things divine tampons
The divine nail didnt even try to soak up the primordial waters smh
The divine dixie cup with a hole in it XD
Interesting, except the part when you said divine nail = remain of descender. I don't see that at all.
Fair enough, but the mystery still remains... how can a random stone or like pillar has that kind of power? Which similar to our traveler, the 4th descender. Similar to Gnosis. Just food for thought... 🧩🧩
@@hellozenn well as for now, gnosis don't have any purifying abilities. They only enhanced elemental powers. And the gnosis are literally chess pieces. It's not crazy that they may be a being remains. But the nails are literally bigger than houses so if they are remains, that being must have been HUGE. Which I doubt totally
yes it is, as of now, there's no info if Gnosis has purifying abilities. My connection was from Divine Nail to The Traveler then to Gnosis initially.
as for the remains, if it means typical body corps, i dont think chess piece looks like body corps either, unless that corps are transformed. Perhaps, i might use the wrong term here, the remains that i use here, refer to the essence or substance that left by decesnder, so it can embedded or transfer into something else.
Really appreciate your respond 🔥🔥
@@hellozenn from albedo SQ, traveler seem to be of a different constitution than regular teyvat humans, so I wonder if it have anything to do with that
@@hirods9889 plus from Nahida and Neuvilette, it sure makes the traveler even more sus and not regular being 👀👀