MatterHackers Pulse 3D Printer - Review - Chris's Basement
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- Опубліковано 2 кві 2019
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Chris, you are the Consumer Reports of 3D Printer reviews! We need more frank, comprehensive reviews like yours. Thank you for raising the bar.
Ha! Thanks Dennis!
I think you gave the Pulse a very fair, and honest look. You basically confirmed most of my thoughts about this machine. I know the higher end units are more specifically targeted for use with some of Matterhackers specialty materials, and perhaps they excel in that area. But the lower end machines seem to be more about a price point, than a use case.
Thanks Scott. I tried my best on this one. I do really like MH , but this printer didn't really do it for me.
One thing I really appreciate about the Prusa that I don't see here is the way the aluminum frame (Z) is anchored in such a way to give it more rigidity. When you picked up the Pulse, I swear I saw it wiggle - something that wouldn't happen with more bracing.
I get people's comments about price but I also would counter with this: US made, full support, and fully built. To get the same price for a Prusa, you would need a kit. I could see the Pulse working for a certain demographic - not me, but that's why I got a Prusa.
Total agree, it's a little wobbly, but mostly because of the rubber feet. I do see how the Pulse could fit for some people, it just not really my speed.
Thanks again for a truly HONEST review. There was a trend for a while that I was seeing that a lot of people were basically in love with every reviewed machine. I know this is your opinion, but a lot of the concerns you have are things that could be the difference between a great buy or a pissed consumer. While this does not mean I will NOT buy this printer in future… it does provide the needed info for making an informed buying decision.
Please keep the reviews coming! I know I certainly appreciate your evaluation on what to expect out of a printer!
this^^^very much so
Thanks man! You are correct. I think we have a bar to reach at certain price points now a days and the bar keeps getting higher. Matterhackers is great and the printer was fine, but just did quite hit the mark.
This has got to be some kind of april fools joke. No lcd, e3d v6 LITE, has to print tethered, apparently locked to one slicer/control program, a power brick with a proprietary plug, lower frame made of threaded rod (LOL) and not even bothering to debur the ends of the bolts.....And they want $800 for this ? Wow, someone at that company is smoking crack. ALL THE CRACK.
lol, this one made me smile. I do agree it was a bit disappointing.
Honest, but diplomatic lol. Which is why I like your channel. Keep up the good work !
oh this one was funny, I thought chris was going to make a follow up & say aprils fools, I didn't buy this they sent it to me. April fools guys. but that didn't happen. get your money back chris lol.
@@fnice1971 lol, that would have been pretty funny. No, I made this purchase, now I must deal with it. Upgrades have already started.
The company is out of California and that's in the Great USA, welcome to America the land of proprietary. We invented it, I think the patent is up, so now you can start your own business with proprietary parts , software and employees.
Great review as always Chris.
Thanks Spike!
I was considering this, but it really needs some of the upgrades as part of the base model, for example, the filament runout sensor, a better hotend, a 32 bit board, and a LCD screen for independent printing. With reasonable upgrades, I was looking at around $1633, if not more as I'd get a PEI sheet or similar.
If MatterHackers made this with comparable stuff to the Prusa i3 Mk3s, and went with direct drive, this would definitely be an outstanding printer.
It's a shame, the upgrades really make the price skyrocket. They are a lot of features, as you say, that are available on other machines stock.
nicely done again Chris.
Thanks Scalda!
Thanks for the review Chris
You bet Mark!
Excellent presentation style, really set out that printer in a clear light, thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Great video. Love the honest review.
Thanks Robert!
Thanks for honest review. To my mind, the Pulse makes sense as out of the box solution to print nylon/nylon x (that's the upgraded model with garolite and upgraded hotend/extruder etc) I wouldn't go that route either, but since nylon filaments can be hard to print, having a complete ecosystem solution for doing so can be attractive to some. MH also sells the PrintDry filament dryer and you can spool the nylon straight out of it, so as a complete solution, they have a compelling case for someone who just wants to get the machine and print.
You're welcome! Yeah, that is a good point, if you were doing a lot of Nyl/x this would be a good ready to run solution. Plus they support the filament as well in case something went wrong.
Honest review. Nice vid!
Thanks Bryan!
Maybe I just got lucky. I bought a Monoprice V2 in 2016 for about $300. It works great and has paid for itself 4 times. You experience my vary.
I have heard a lot people say they have had good luck with these, I might just have got a bad one.
I bought a Prusa i3 mk3 (now upgraded to the 3s). Dad saw it and wanted a 3d printer but didn't want to wait the 3-4 months (I had to give up on a textured sheet) for the printer so he bought the Pulse XE. About the only thing I really like about his printer is the Garolite bed which I can do anyways.. The LCD menu is btw is so gimped it's almost useless (though the Red-Blue color changing knob is neat - changes colors depending on if the nozzle is Hot or not). His printer came with the Bondtech BMG extruder, and a Ruby Nozzle (the Nozzle was changed out to a Nozzle X because he wanted a larger dim Nozzle to prevent clogs printing wood based filaments). BTW you see the cables coming off the bed straight up take that zip tie off that and replace it with a new one and when you tighten it leave it somewhat loose otherwise that cable flexes so badly it will go bad causing Bed thermal runaway errors or design and print a new back end part so it shoots straight back instead of straight up. When he had the issue with his thermistor cable going bad, Matterhackers ignored him so support is in fact hit or miss. While I'd buy Filament from them I wouldn't buy their printer (a bowden MK2 clone)
Thanks for the comment and another point of view on this printer. I had a lot of the same findings you did.
Great job and keep it up
Thanks man!
I do not think I have seen a review of the Pulse yet where it worked out of the box. Any 3d printer that "has" to be connected to the internet or a computer to use it is not for me. Thanks for the review Chris.
Thanks! Agree, the Pulse just isn't for me.
Great review, thank you!!
Thanks and thanks for watching!
Great review. Their site shows only the models that have aluminum extrusions on the lower-frame. Guess they wanted to get rid of the screw rods as well.
Thanks! Yeah, looks like they have changed a few things since mine was built.
The Pulse : Will it flatline? Come into my basement to find out.
lol, nice one!
Thanks for the honest review, it's great when a content creater buys things on their own and reviews them. There is no conflict of interest there.
Is MH serious though? $800 for sharp threaded rods, no LCD, Bowden extruder, e3d v6 light, and proprietary power brick? That machine has literally no advantages over the Prusa.
I applaud their effort though. Hopefully they will work on the design a bit more and give Prusa some competition.
You're welcome. I did have really high hopes for this machine MH does some great work, but this one fell a little short.
Great Video. Problem for the Pulse is if your in Prusa’s price range, you better be just as good...
Thanks Mike, totally agree, that is a hard price range to be in.
I bought one as my first printer in august paid about 1200 with a Bodentech extruder, Full V6, and garolite plate and 9kg of a variety of filaments. We (FRC Team 1989) use it to print robotics stuff so the stuff we print is pretty big (some already on my channel) So its not standard model stuff but mostly mechanical very little PLA mostly Nylon, HIPS, ABS, PETG. Good part... We put about 30 kg through that thing and print almost exclusively with a .8 nozzle. Not so good it was back 2x for warranty repair. To add to what you are mentioning the bed heater wire is not tied down by the plug on the rambo. Prusa documented what happens if you don't and I experienced it. It fries the connector at the mini rambo so MH replaced the mini rambo and then tied the wire without lengthening it so now it crosses the build plate on top and I loose the right corner unless I want the wire to tangle with the part. So I will lengthen the wire and run it underneath with a drag chain. (which possibly will void the warranty I was told) But the wire kinks at the back of the plug and its a question of time before that will break as we are printing big parts and the build plate goes back and forth pretty much the whole length thousands of time a day as it runs pretty much 24 hours/day. The BL touch is unprotected so if you have a print that curls up - does not happen often - but when it does the BL touch looses its leg and I bought 3 BL touches so far and currently I manually level without it as I got tired of the expense I might get one when I redesign the hotend. The fan shroud gives problems at big parts and high temps as it blows too much on the nozzle at low layers (below layer 25) if you print at 275 C and a part with a 240x205 dimension and plenty of holes . That then causes thermal runaway as the E3d V6 drops from 275 to about 255. The hotend brackets are 3d printed out of RYNO which is a PETG. Now out of the 30 kg 14kg was Hobby King HIPS which is great for parts we call it the better ABS. But with a .8 nozzle it likes to be printed at 270 with a 100c bed and with above mentioned big part the hotend is above the 100C bed close for quite a long time and the fan shroud gets soft as according to MH the glass temp for Ryno is about 65 and then sags and catches the print. So the bottom of the hotend bracket behaves similar to a lesser degree so I reprinted some of those parts out of HIPS and that seems to work better. Redesigning the Hotend mount and fan shroud is on the todo list and will include a protection for the leg of the BL touch too. Also probably will void the warranty so it might have to wait a little. Filament out sensor bracket can turn which it will when you feed from a print dry which about half our prints do -- mostly nylon. And if it twists it stops working. Right now a work around is Duct tape. Too many wires are "Free hanging" and I don't like that as a principle as gravity is a bitch at times. And yeah I have built a temp enclosure you probably can see on some of my videos on my channel. There is probably a series of upgrading the pulse coming depending on how much time the projects for team 1989 leave to tackle this. It will probably have some urgency once we get close to the end of the warranty. I got it so that on my first printer I don't have problems with fixing as we had lots of plans which not all came through due to too much down time but otoh I got quite an educating on taking the printer apart and putting it back together. There was some misinformation that has been fixed by MH by now. So for example their website stated that if you upgrade to the V6 you can go up to 400 C and there was a link to the E3d website sent to me. Now its true the V6 can go to 400 but not the one with the aluminum block and standard thermistor. So printing for a while at 300 destroyed some thermistors etc so I got good at disassembling the hotend plus the initial printer came with the nozzle not tightened and silly my thought I just plug the printer in and start printing as it came fully assembled and was wondering why filament came out of all kinds of places which required a full disassemble and cleaning etc. Well as I said I got an education in assembling and disassembling the printer or sending it back which happened 2x but then robotics season was coming closer and closer and who can wait 2 weeks for the printer to come back? so well DIY. Well now after talking to E3D I know that the current hotend should not be run over 280 and according to MH its impossible to install a copper block and the T100 plus it would void the warranty so that is on the list for after that too. As for Matter Control I slice now with slic3r and then run the Gcode through MC for bed leveling and that works most of the time. Except when you print a whole plate full of all the parts for a compound planetary gearbox with tons of double helical gears then MC sometimes just dies so print in smaller batches. Also power resume does not work if the printer only looses power for a short while like in a storm and the computer does not cause its a laptop with a battery. The printer resets and then thinks wherever the head is is home. Could be avoided with the printer doing a autohome at power up but well maybe it will happen somewhen in the future. There are a lot of other little weird things but this is already too long. Its a shame they seem to be trying hard but it sometimes seems there is someone with a lot of great ideas there and then some HS kid is putting it together and adding there own twist to it kinda like HS robotics.
Thank you for taking the time to put all this info into your comment. It sounds like you have had a bit of a struggle as well. I hope MH's can get a lot of these odds and ends sorted out in the future. As for now, my Pulse will be upgraded to better accommodate my needs. I already started printing parts!
@@ChrisRiley Please lets find a way to share. Tomorrow I will try to start to change the bed wiring with a drag chain. Designed one that should fit hopefully. Willing to share whatever I come up with. Some of the stuff I did like the bearings I put up publicly (for free) on my patreon. Pretty new to all this.
@@martinpirringer8055 Cool, I will see what I can do to share my progress.
@Juan Suero You can start with what you have. Your printer needs a buildplate that holds Nylon down and that counts for the ultimaker too. (If you make Nylon gears). An Ultimaker does not print much better than a Prusa or Creality or Anycubic. We take anycubics and then put all metal hotends on them and maybe tweak a little here or there (I might give one linear rails at some point.) One big part is that with an ultimaker you can get a service contract with the Crealities/Anycubics/Prusas - you fix yourself. Much Much Much more important is that you know how to properly design plastic gears and slice them properly Either one will take the STL and run it through a slicer so your most important part is to know the mechanics. Beyond that I take a Chiron over an Ultimaker simply cause the bigger build volume is worth a ton and you can build an enclusure yourself and do the upgrades and still have plenty of $$$ left over
@Juan Suero Here is something I use to teach my robotic kids a little bit about gears - its not complete but should get you started khkgears.net/new/gear_knowledge/gear_technical_reference/
Nice review as always...$800 with no screen 🤤
I would get another MK3 instead.
Thanks! Sounds like a great plan to me. ;)
Thank you for the review! I did not think the pulse was this expensive.. and i agree.. a little polishing wouldn't hurt anybody for that price.. lets face it.. prusa ;)
edit: 15A 24V or 12V? 24 would be good enough.. cca 360W.
You're welcome! It is 12v.
Chris is a brave and determined guy. I would not agree to deal with this kind of nonsense printer even if MatterHackers paid me. WindowsUpdateControl? No, thanks.
I fear no printer! lol, thanks!
Nice video,excellent review. Not for me. The biggest deal breaker ( aside from the price ) is the internet connection requirement. My internet is spotty at time, so I would not be able to tolerate an outage. Expensive for what you get. I do like made in the USA.......
It's kind of up and down, I like a lot of the ideas around it. It's just not my favorite printer to use.
I bought one because it was my 1st printer and wanted full support which has been great. My biggest complaint is that they are not advertising the correct print bed size. They are off by 5mm in both X & Y (should be 215 x 210 not 220 x 215). The Matter Control allows you to but a part that's too big on the bed and it tries to print with the expected poor results. They seem to be aware of the issue, but they don't seem too interested in fixing it.
For a first printer, I think it would be worth the money. The support is great. Matter Control has a few frustrating things about it that I hope they get worked out.
@@ChrisRiley BTW - One cool thing about being tethered is that you can change print settings such layer height mid-print with the re-slice feature that is visible in the progress window that's available during a print.
Good point, that would be handy to be able to do, I might have to play around with it.
Yeah I feel like I'd get a genuine Prusa at that price.
Sounds like a fine choice to me. ;)
Nice
Thanks!
Chris did you ever make the tweaks to this Pulse to configure it, so it’s more of an end-to-end, stand-alone solution? I have an Ender 3 pro now and it’s nice, but requires some attention and upgrades. The MH Pulse already has the upgrades, plug and play and the only thing it’s missing (ha) is a decent Extruder and hot end. I was looking at the E3d hemera with the Bowden adapter for the extra $100+ price. I’m leaning toward the pulse simply because I can drive to MatterHackers in just over 1 hour, and I don’t like the idea of tossing more money into the Ender 3. That makes for a compelling argument for the pulse, money aside it’s a ready to go printer with stateside (local) support . Granted, they aren’t pumping out thousands of these per month, like Ender 3 pro and Prusa i3 and you start adding in missing components the price goes up further? It’s a premium price, mid-level printer.I do like the idea of picking up the phone and driving for warranty repair and not getting lost in the shuffle.
I hear ya on the support side of things. I pretty much made mine a MK2 ua-cam.com/video/JjTT_lmuYvU/v-deo.html
Way overpriced in my opinion. V6 light?!?!? Bowden? No screen? Come on.
It does seem for this price some different component choices could have been made indeed.
For the price, it really needs direct drive. What is the kicker is having to print tethered... which means if Windows 10 decides to load updates for Patch Tuesday and reboot, there goes your print.
@@dfloyd888 Direct drive would really help the prints, tethered always concerns.
Agree with the others, have to say it's a bit interesting that many of my main channels I follow (who usually are great) have so little criticism on this one.
Funny you should say that, I wanted to check it out because a lot of others seem to like it. There were a few things about it I wasn't really expecting.
I run the Pulse XE, which is quite a different beast than the base model Chris reviewed. More than happy to answer any questions you may have on it. I can say that it's got more polish, but it very much likes to be tethered to Matter Control.
@@3DPrintingNerd Thanks Joel, I appreciate the help here in the comments. :)
@@ChrisRiley Glad to help!
The XE is 1500 dollars, I think their pricing is simply a bit off. The only thing I think is nice is the ready-to-go solution to start printing nylon and such out of the box.
800$ for the basekit is too much if it has to stay connected to the pc ??? the MK3 is 750€ full metal hotend, display etc and only 4 failed prints for me in 3 months almost
but thanks for doing it Chris, kinda bittersweet buying it i guess, i know MH does ALOT for the community etc, but they should revise their pulse lineup tbh
Yeah, it was worth it just to check it out, Matterhackers does a great job on most things, but there are other printers available that are well supported that I would prefer to use for sure.
@@ChrisRiley true, we cant all be perfect, can only try to improve with time :D
Honest review! I'd pass too. In fact, I did! I think they could do a lot better.
Thanks Robby!
the price is very high! if you took an anet a8 and added all the extras you might (and i say might) get to $400. for that sort of money you could have a corexy with a 300x300x300 volume.
It's true, for $800 you could build a crazy printer.
There have been a lot of new improvements on the Pulse. A new review would be nice.
I'll see what I can do! Thanks for watching
So I don't have to 100% rely on having an Internet connection to use this printer? And only 15amp?
After the initial software install, you should be able to run with out the internet, but you do need it to follow there install guide. Yeah, 15amp worried me a bit as well, but so far it has worked.
@@ChrisRiley okay, thanks, I'll read up more on their website, but that price point? Ouch.. I had another unrelated question but forgot what it was.
nice video as always, but i think it is over priced a little, isn't that true ??
I think it really comes down to how you print and what features you need, for something built in the US that is fully supported and shipped for free, $800 is probably not that big of a stretch, but for me personally, I think I would rather have a different printer than this one.
thanks for the reply @@ChrisRiley
Looks good but build volume is a killer
I dig the Blue, it's an ok printer, just not my fav.
Hmm.. its a standard price for a already built i3 prusa style. And i even get thats its marketed towards a more inexperienced crowd. But.. i really would love to see a US/EU company do a chinese price 3d printer, without the typical caveats.
That's an interesting idea. I know there are some companies that sell kits that way, but none fully assembled that I know of.
well shoot... *sits on couching watching this review while first print on Pulse HV is running*. yeah, their slicer kinda sucks. I get better prints of my CR10SPRO-V2.
Oh well, off to try other slicers now.
Does anyone know if Chris used MatterControl slicer on the giant head print and the yellow torture test? I am assuming not, but would be nice to know if that is possible.
It's been so long, I don't remember. Thanks for watching, good luck with your projects.
An Ultimachines board on an over glorified kit..?
Ultimachines when you want the best.
@@ChrisRiley I still can't justify any high-end Ultimachines board over RAMPS.
@@bernardtarver I hear ya, RAMPS is tried and true.
I feel bad for anyone who buys this.
I think it could be better, just needs a little help.
@@ChrisRiley For the price though, there are so many better printers at that price point, I don't know what they were thinking. It's a prusa clone that costs what the MK3 does with none of the MK3 features.
Good info Chris - awfully overpriced for what you get though. It might find itself a niche for some, but that's about it. Thanks.
Thanks Ron! Well said.
I like 3 d printing but I can't see 800 dollars but that's me I own a tarantula and an ender 3 but there again that's me
I hear ya, at the $800 range we are starting to talk about a fair chunk of money indeed.
Thanks , been waiting for my Prusa to show up for about month and not sure if I should keep waiting, the dates keep changing, so I started looking at alternatives. I guess I should just wait. This will be my first printer and I want to print not fix a machine that I don't know how to use. I'll probably pick up a cheap one to screw with later, maybe an ender 3 from ebay that was returned, there's a ton of them cheap. But to start with something that doesn't work well before you know how to use it seams foolish to me. Prusa community is big and it's open source, too many pros to get something else.
Hang in there. I know it's hard to wait.
Come on Matterhackers, you guys can do better than that!
Thanks for the comment Justin.
MatterHackers is nuttier than squirrel shit trying to get $800 for this. An LCD is what, $12?
Not for $800. No. This should be a $500 kit. Maybe less since it requires tethering and no lcd. I love MH but this was a bad idea. Why not aluminum extrusions at this price? I could clone this exact one for way way less. It needs a lot of help to be in this price point. I hope you are brainstorming ways to mod it already.
Ha! I certainly am and I started working on it today. :)
Sorry MatterHackers you may have great filament but Prusa has you Beat hands down on 9.5 outta 10 on features and price. You've priced it too high also design features and UI limitations still don't make it a goto machine..
Thanks for the comment Charles.
Too pricey as all stated. Perfectly happy with my b2x300 for the same price.
The b2x300 looks like a pretty nice printer.
Chris Riley honestly it’s fantastic. I have no use for dual extruder but it’s design and features are up there with a MK3.
I'm sure there's someone out there who would buy this off you at a discount so you can get some of your money back.
I am going to mod it out and see what it can do, after that I might sell it/donate it.
PULSE PTFE TUBE problem. Might Have a SOLUTION. Sorry to contact you like this but IDK another way. I have the problem too and now been free of that failure with this that I posted on the MH bulletinboard forums.matterhackers.com/topic/6123/bond-tech-extruder-loosing-ptfe-tube/3. I'd post the STL too but they don't let me upload and IDK right now how else and might be all the same anyway as its designed to be printed on a pulse with a .8 nozzle dialed in accurately. When I get some breathing room I might do a video but beyond "my kids" (FRC Team 1989) nobody watches them anyway and I see them all the time besides I've been told my videos have too much math and not enough cats. Anyway seems to be working here sofar. Might do a couple of improvements in the near future though. Other things that will be done to the Pulse is make a better enclosure, put a drag chain on the bed wireing (make sure at least its tied up to the wall of the electronics board or sooner or later you kill the mini rambo its a problem well documented on the PRUSA forum), redesign the hotend as the fan in the stock settings causes occasional thermal runaways if you are printing at temps >265 with the bed at >90 and the fan at 100% within 10mm of the hotplate plus if you have a print curl up there is a good chance it rips the leg of the BL touch off (I went through 3 and am leveling manually for the past 3 months). Not that its that bad a printer we put an average of 4 to 6kg of filament / week through that thing currently -mostly HIPS NYLON and some PETG and only occasionally less than 3 % PLA. With the current projects with the kids I get to it in about 15 kg the earliest (we are printing a 32x28x52 INCH 120 lb robot well not everything cant print motors and electronics yet). At least we are trying. And all on a Pulse. Hope that thing keeps working and that little thing I designed does the trick. If you are interested let me know and I tell you how to dial it in for that as you got to be accurate to < 0.1 mm
A genuine company starting to sell shit, a great way to kill your reputation if you ask me.
The best support service, is a service you don't ever need to use. Offering support on a printer where your actually might need it, is playing with fire.
What an insult to prusa! Clearly the have no imagination besides knowing how to copy everything that someone else did! You could go to your local metal shop and have a frame and bed plate, cut out for less then 75 dallors and go to local hardware store for the threaded rods, source out all the rest from china, add a real V6 hotend from E3d, and you would still be under 400$ budget! I call this one A BS no one should be supporting this kind business approach! Chris im actually shocked that you would even conditioner endorsing this! If anyone wants to give them the finger by building your own! ill happily share the files for your local metal shop aluminium cutter! In generally insulted and im not even Prusa! EDIT: here one even better! if you want a bigger build volume . www.thingiverse.com/thing:1474991/files
To be fair, this is all open source. It is a Prusa copy. Matterhackers is a good company, they do a lot for the 3D printing community. I wouldn't say I endorse them in anyway, but I wanted to give the Pulse a try so I could at least form an opinion. The printer is fully supported, assembled and shipped, so that adds to the value of the printer, but I do agree, it is high priced given the features that are included. Not arguing with you at all. :) The point of these reviews are really just to give users an idea of what they are getting into when they are buying something like this.
bet you wish you used that $800 on another Prusa mk3 :P
Yeah, I kinda do.