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  • A slight comparison of the two respective versions of the Swedish and American version of the film based on the acclaimed novel.
    I do no own any materials portrayed in this video as it was created for educational purposes.

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  • @michaelshort2388
    @michaelshort2388 6 років тому +36

    The American one's plot is better but the characters are better in the Swedish one. I have to agree, I prefer the Swedish one.

  • @billhaigney5080
    @billhaigney5080 7 років тому +16

    I've read the trilogy & seen both American & Swedish versions. Lisbetg is a brilliant, conflicted character! I tend to enjoy the Swedish version more, feeling that the story itself is Swedish-centric and is best told that way. Rooney Mara's Breakout role though!

  • @neuro.weaver
    @neuro.weaver 6 років тому +19

    Noomi Rapace IS Lisbet Salander. Period.

    • @barrygoldwater2441
      @barrygoldwater2441 Рік тому

      Nah. Ronney Mara is so much better (and cuter)

    • @neuro.weaver
      @neuro.weaver Рік тому

      @@barrygoldwater2441 Ronney Mara is too cute. She needs to be holding a pack of razors in order to get some edge.

  • @AndreyAndreyevich
    @AndreyAndreyevich 5 років тому +22

    the American version is a perfect detective thriller with the wonderful cast should've done the whole trilogy if Sony didn't mess it up

  • @ragnantiou
    @ragnantiou 8 років тому +96

    I love Rooney Mara so I'm biased as well and I was heartbroken when I found out the American version is no longer going to be continued

    • @johnteh.6025
      @johnteh.6025 6 років тому

      Daniel M it's not????!!!

    • @SaoirseK
      @SaoirseK 6 років тому

      Well, it's "continued" by means of an upcoming sequel based on the 4th book of the series which wasn't even written by the original author and doesn't star the original 2011 cast. So to some it can be considered a sequel, but to the die hard fan's of the US version and the books, they won't know what to make of it.

    • @sdawg4834
      @sdawg4834 2 роки тому

      The girl in the spiders web was shit in comparison to Rooney Mara's Lisbeth salander character from the 2011 'the girl with the dragon tattoo'. I haven't seen the 2009 version of 'the girl with the dragon tattoo' because I'd rather watch the movie without having to read the characters script and pay attention to the movie at the same time. I can handle some subtitles but the majority of a movie kinda sucks despite how good the acting may be

  • @cupxcak3119
    @cupxcak3119 8 років тому +48

    I watched the Swedish versions first and realised way later that there was a Hollywood version - of course it had to be redone. The thing is the story itself is so complex and exciting that I don't see the point in making it even darker. I read the trilogy three times and yes, Mr. Fincher does do a good job, but to me the Swedish version is much more authentic. And Noomi Rapace is simply amazing, while the American version of her is a bit over the top.
    Nice comparison though, thanks!

  • @michaal105
    @michaal105 6 років тому +10

    I wanted to buy the American version to watch because it was directed by David Fincher. I went to the second-hand store and saw one of the movies was 'The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo'. I was very excited and bought it. It was only when I got home that I realised it was the Swedish version. I thought that I might as well give it a watch, so that night I put it into my computer, closed my door, turned off the light and put in my earphones. Easily one of the best crime movies I've seen and definitely in my top 20 favourite movies list. It absolutely floored me with how brilliant it was. Since then I've lent it to so many of my friends so they could see how excellent it was. About a year later I watched the American one. Very good, but the Swedish version is still much better.
    Lisbeth and Blomkvist were better developed in the original.
    The investigative aspect was better portrayed.
    The ending of the American one could've been trimmed down whereas the pacing of the original was perfect.
    And the ending itself was better and more satisfying.
    So I think the brilliant Swedish version is superior.

  • @setgiga_3397
    @setgiga_3397 7 років тому +113

    The swedish version is more true to the book in my opinion

    • @sophiekilmer5828
      @sophiekilmer5828 7 років тому +1

      Setgiga •_• thank you

    • @Htimez2
      @Htimez2 7 років тому +7

      I agree and I think it is soo much better then the American version and this is coming from an American!

    • @evilmoif
      @evilmoif 7 років тому +6

      Also, the Swedish version reflects the Swedish cultural cues that are the true basis for the original stories

    • @ImK4Os
      @ImK4Os 7 років тому +3

      Setgiga •_• that doesn't always mean it's the better movie

    • @deanthebean8275
      @deanthebean8275 7 років тому +3

      Setgiga •_• The American version is much closer to the book

  • @lourivaljunior3363
    @lourivaljunior3363 4 роки тому +7

    Noomi Rapace was the best for me.

  • @spooderman6522
    @spooderman6522 7 років тому +41

    All the respect for the english version
    But the swedish one is like 10 times better

  • @freemanlowell5437
    @freemanlowell5437 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video, have always loved both films. Noomi and Rooney are certainly very different but they both just completely captivate. Just wish we could have gotten the trilogy with Rooney.

  • @MuricaTurkey
    @MuricaTurkey 3 роки тому +6

    Noomi IS Lisbeth for me. I don't even want to see other versions. Even though I'm American lol Haven't seen the American version and have 0 interest in it. Noomi made Lisbeth real for me.

  • @lamaddussa
    @lamaddussa 7 років тому +18

    i thought that the quality of the swedish one was kind of made- for-tv-ish, and that the u.s. one was brilliant... wish they had completed the series...

  • @ClearCritique
    @ClearCritique 7 місяців тому

    Solid comparison. I actually prefer the Fincher version, but I also saw it first. The directing decisions you mentioned bring the film to another level for me, but more than that, I prefer this Lisbeth more. She has more depth as a character, as her sweetness, vulnerability and sexuality are better explored. Both are great films in different ways, and I'm happy to see a calm and nuanced discussion like yours. I've been meaning to do something similar on my own channel, as I actually have a friend who's Swedish. Great video. Subbed!

  • @LETTIS79
    @LETTIS79 7 років тому +25

    The scene with Nils Bjurman was very disturbing in the swedish version and much better than the US version.

  • @roseribcage
    @roseribcage 7 років тому +6

    both are great... but i prefer the original

  • @tatianaoliveira2191
    @tatianaoliveira2191 6 років тому +11

    The Swedish version is the best :)

  • @karenneivamontano8476
    @karenneivamontano8476 3 роки тому +2

    I definitely have to agree here, the Swedish version is much better, the performance of Rapace is outstanding!

  • @ashtonhopeful2986
    @ashtonhopeful2986 8 років тому +2

    All these people commenting what they prefer yet none of them have seen both versions 😂😂 I have and I think the Swedish version is better but I do love the american version because they portray Lisbeth the way she's meant to be in my personal opinion

  • @buildingbuildercip8292
    @buildingbuildercip8292 7 років тому +24

    Swedish version is best

  • @sophiekilmer5828
    @sophiekilmer5828 7 років тому +3

    i can appreciate you honest comparisons. i too prefer the swedish version more, and its 2 equally brilliant sequels, which will never happen in the english speaking world.

    • @killingspeerx
      @killingspeerx 7 років тому

      So are the 2 sequels worth watching? I mean I haven't watched the original yet (don't know which version to watch but might end up watching the Swedish) but I don't know if the sequels are as good as the first.

    • @sophiekilmer5828
      @sophiekilmer5828 7 років тому

      killingspeerx absolutely, they provide more insight in to lisbet. and the huge ending on the end of the third

    • @sophiekilmer5828
      @sophiekilmer5828 7 років тому

      killingspeerx watch the swedish, more accurate to book, but if you're English speaking, put on the English dub, if you're watching the DVD

    • @killingspeerx
      @killingspeerx 7 років тому

      Andrea Trembly
      and why isn't the US version as good as the Swedish? is it because it doesn't follow it faithfully?

    • @sophiekilmer5828
      @sophiekilmer5828 7 років тому

      killingspeerx you've seen the English version?

  • @Harkhoost
    @Harkhoost 2 роки тому +2

    The original title of the book and the Swedish film is translated to ‘Men who hates women’. That is completely LOST in the US version name. Lisbeth Salanders psycological issues is much deeper portrayed in the Swedish film and even more in the trilogy.

    • @Jon_from_LI
      @Jon_from_LI 7 місяців тому

      Thank you. While I respect the Fincher version, it just seemed as though Mara's Lisbeth sometimes caved to authority too much, like when she asked for Mikhael's permission in the end.

  • @_templesleeper
    @_templesleeper 7 років тому +20

    The Swedish version comes across as your normal, book adaptation movie. It's sterile, atmosphere-less, plot driven.... Fincher's is detailed, atmospheric, incredibly scored, tense in every moment, builds a better world, has more intriguing characters; it's better in every way. Now the atmosphere in Fincher's version isn't quite like the book, the Swedish version is truer in that sense. But Fincher improves on the book AND on the Swedish movie.

    • @saul3332
      @saul3332 6 років тому +1

      You have a opinion I disagree with.
      The American versions adds drama which does add a dimension to the film it detracts from the telling
      of he story.

    • @soulcarlosv
      @soulcarlosv 5 років тому +1

      I disagree with that, the Swedish version it's a lot more realistic, full of tension, the perfect combination for a good detective thriller, while de American version it's prettier and over the top, too bombastic, it feels like you're watching another James Bond movie.

  • @Wil4568
    @Wil4568 7 років тому +29

    I've seen both versions and there is only one Lisbeth Salander, and that's Noomi Rapace.

  • @michaeljohn1462
    @michaeljohn1462 6 років тому +4

    Having seen both, I can say The Swedish version isz better than the American one.
    The Swedish version's Lisbeth and Mikael were better developed, the handling of Hariet's return was more emotional and better handled, the pacing after Harriet returns was better in this version, and I prefer the ending of this version even though the American version's ending was more accurate according to the book.
    I will say that the most memorable scenes (The revenge of Lisbeth; Mikael's torture scene) were definitely better directed in the American version.
    Both are very good, but the Swedish version is excellent.

  • @tombraider745
    @tombraider745 4 роки тому +2

    noomi rapace version of lisbeth is better than rooney in my opinion

  • @vatsalamolly
    @vatsalamolly 6 років тому +1

    I saw the books first, then watched the swedish version, and when I found out there was gonna be a Hollywood remake, I was skeptical. I did think the exact thing that why do they need to do that!
    But Fincher has since become one of my favorite directors and I enjoy both versions, but it's Fincher's version that I have rewatched again and again. That trilogy was never completed, and that makes me sad. But if you ask me which one is better, I could never answer. Although I think I like the English version Lisbeth and swedish version Blomkovist better. These two look like what I imagined the characters liked like when I read the books.

  • @LolitaDavidovich934
    @LolitaDavidovich934 3 роки тому +1

    In seeing them both again, the Swedish version is better.

  • @orestmakar8562
    @orestmakar8562 5 років тому +8

    The Swedish version was Understated and suttle in every aspect. The US version is more direct, exaggerated and oversaturated in every aspect. The US version makes shure the viewer understand the charaacters their intentions, character etc. The Swedish version isn’t so direct. In my mind the Swedish Lisbeth is more believable and real, and the US Lisbeth doesn’t.

  • @phil211060
    @phil211060 7 років тому +3

    No doubt, the swedish version is much better!

  • @alexius23
    @alexius23 3 роки тому +1

    I have a greater respect for the Swedish version. This is not to say that I did not like the Daniel Craig movie. The English film had a stronger overall cast & higher production values. The original film was shot as a TV movie where as the other production was always meant to be a full fledged film. While Mara is a good actress there is a gritty rougher edge from Rapace.
    I think both films can be admired and enjoyed. Still sometime wish that the English trilogy plan could have gone through....

  • @kristalslott1818
    @kristalslott1818 8 років тому +13

    The Swedish version is much better

  • @sophiekilmer5828
    @sophiekilmer5828 8 років тому +71

    the Swedish version is infinitely better than the English version

    • @herbicidal1
      @herbicidal1 8 років тому +1

      Its a trilogy.

    • @bluecarob
      @bluecarob 7 років тому +10

      I agree the Swedish version is much better.

    • @bingsinatra5283
      @bingsinatra5283 7 років тому +1

      Yup, Mara plays Lisbeth too 'soft' (no doubt Fincher's doing), the reason for Rapace's Salander's anger/rage is only fully explained in the two sequels.

    • @bingsinatra5283
      @bingsinatra5283 7 років тому

      bluecarob Especially the 3hr 'extended version'.

    • @RobertLeather
      @RobertLeather 6 років тому +1

      Having read the books, I do find the attention Fincher's version makes for the realization of the photographs during the parade scene is played out better. It leads the viewer to join in the look while the "Swedish version" is over way too soon and has almost no significance. Although, I do like the Swedish version much better for when he's talking to the carpenter's widow. I find Fincher's tone and feel to be superior and aspects of the plot play out better. But then the Swedish version plays the investigation out better. You get a real sense of horror at the discoveries while Fincher almost seems to run out of time for it.

  • @theboofin
    @theboofin 7 років тому +13

    I find the Swedish movie very ordinarily shot and artless compared to Fincher's. As stated below, the Swedish one having a very much made for TV look. The characters more interestingly drawn in Fincher's as well.

  • @johannavestergren6640
    @johannavestergren6640 5 років тому +3

    The swedish version is waaaay better than the US one!
    The biggest difference is Lisbeth herself who in the US version seems more scared and insecure rather than closed off and genuinely despises men who hate women (which is also the swedish title).
    Lisbeth would never back away in fear and never fall in love like a schoolgirl and buy her crush a jacket to then throw it away when seeing said crush with another woman. And Lisbeth would never say that she is insane because she is not! others had forced that label onto her for their own gain and she fights against that label in the other movies/books so that is yet another thing that ruined the american character for me... Plus Noomi did an amazing performance which was hard to beat! Rooney did a nice job and the character would be perfect for something less deep or dark.
    Plus it really bothers me that they use the swedish pronunciation of the names, swedish cities, swedish TV-channels and even swedish writing on the newpapers... If you make an american version, make is american! otherwise just watch it with subtitles like the rest of the world!

    • @Daemon1995_
      @Daemon1995_ Рік тому

      Very bad take, the us version is nothing like how you described her lmao. Seems like bro missed all the nuance and exposition

  • @SERBON
    @SERBON 7 років тому +9

    Why do the English/Americans have to make remakes that are necessarily worse? What kind of people...
    Original is original, no doubt here!

    • @tatianaoliveira2191
      @tatianaoliveira2191 6 років тому +2

      I guess they are too lazy to read subtitles, so they do remakes... XD
      The Swedish "Millenium" movies are better.

  • @julietspaghetti
    @julietspaghetti 7 років тому +1

    and this is your only youtube video?? Why not add more? I'd be curious to know what you think about The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo etc- it's bloddy well driving me crazy why they leave you just hanging at the end of the Fire, Hornet's Nest ...

    • @CaptainBadguy
      @CaptainBadguy  7 років тому

      This was originally a small, student project. I've actually been in the planning stage to do another video, though not related to this franchise. I could actually go back to it if I feel I have something worthwhile to say. I'm actually kind of amazed at the responses I've gotten from it.

    • @NomadFlow
      @NomadFlow 7 років тому

      +Big Lu Monday You should go ahead and expand upon it. Personally, I feel that the American version is directed much better than the Swedish version but I think that the Swedish version's script is better. Although it doesn't matter anyway because apparently they are moronically skipping the 2nd and 3rd books for the American versions which is nonsensical because the first book is really meant more as an introduction to Lisbeth and many plot elements introduced are meant to be followed up in the 2nd and 3rd installments. Plus it ends on a cliffhanger. So if they skip to the 4th book then it essentially makes this American movie utterly useless.

  • @MissSorceress
    @MissSorceress 8 років тому +5

    Nice comparison! I'm curious, you sounded like you enjoyed the American version much more but then said you preferred the Swedish one? Just wondering why? I read the books and saw both movies all close to when the American one originally came out...while I loved Noomi, I preferred the American one for the fact that Lisbeth didn't look like a ridiculous over the top Goth and the fact that I thought the mystery aspect was set up better and made more sense. Just my opinion though! I can appreciate both movies!

    • @CaptainBadguy
      @CaptainBadguy  8 років тому +1

      Thank you! They're both particularly good, and my preference is slight. It's been a while since I've thought about these films honestly, so I hope I can answer this coherently since this video's well over 2 years old now. I believe my reasoning at the time of writing the script was that the Swedish one felt more organic, since the novel itself was originally rooted from there. It feels like it's a closer understanding for their own story. Which isn't to say the American version doesn't get it right, and I agree that it did certain things better. And Fincher's style is definitely a massive leap above what is comparable to what was otherwise a compotent, if not lack-luster film composition of the original. It might be worth a re-watch for me.
      Fun fact: there was originally to be more content to this video. However, it would've ended up being like 11 minutes long. Not uncommon for UA-camrs, I suppose, but this was part of an assignment. Never thought it would get as much exposure as it's gotten. Really should just make more...

    • @sophiekilmer5828
      @sophiekilmer5828 7 років тому

      MissSorceress I wouldn't call it American, it's refer to it as English

    • @teodorbrekke
      @teodorbrekke 5 років тому

      The American Lisbeth is a hundred times more goth looking than the swedish one. Haha

  • @vader8867
    @vader8867 3 роки тому

    I watched first the Swedish version, it is the best for me.

  • @robertstevenson1179
    @robertstevenson1179 7 років тому +5

    The Swedish version was far superior to the American version, even with subtitles.... Both are really good movies...

  • @martincollins7466
    @martincollins7466 5 років тому

    Having read the book and watched the original version of the film, I didn't think Hollywood had the guts to give full credit to story, esp the brutal rape scene. But they came very close.

  • @andrewbrennan7291
    @andrewbrennan7291 6 років тому +1

    I'll take the Swedish version - more gritty; only one flaw in it: the bible verses were discovered by Blomkvist's daughter not Lisbeth.

  • @millsj9383
    @millsj9383 7 років тому +31

    i go for fincher version.

  • @plumlogan
    @plumlogan 7 років тому +4

    I really liked both versions - I thought the Swedish version told the story somewhat better, but I thought Fincher's vision did a better job of visually matching the story's demeanor

  • @patschomann7338
    @patschomann7338 8 місяців тому

    Rooney Mara and Daniel Craig were excellent in the American version!

  • @psychowolf99
    @psychowolf99 6 місяців тому

    Swedish version feels more human. The American version feels like a bond movie, too glamorized and fake

  • @wp4866
    @wp4866 6 років тому

    sequel in a year - can't wait

  • @pistolen87
    @pistolen87 4 роки тому +1

    Fincher's version just looks nicer

  • @RinLockhart
    @RinLockhart 7 років тому

    A Fincher fan over here.

  • @JohnJohansen2
    @JohnJohansen2 3 роки тому

    If you actually red the novels, sav the original tribology?
    You would never be in doubt!

  • @MrEndshow
    @MrEndshow 7 років тому +5

    Anyone who thinks "Hollywood" version is good, obviously only watched the movie without reading the book. Shame

    • @CodeLyokofan1TheBest
      @CodeLyokofan1TheBest 6 років тому

      .. now that isnt true

    • @vatsalamolly
      @vatsalamolly 6 років тому +1

      Not true. It's true that the books are better than the movies because the plot is a lot more detailed, and the swedish versions stick to the books, but that doesn't necessarily make them better.

  • @MultiMia123456
    @MultiMia123456 7 років тому +1

    Firstly, it frustrates me that she went and mated with a dude. Like, gross ? Men are all hard, rough, never feels right and not soft. But that's MY opinion. Secondly, I'm writing a book, and it is almost like the title to this film, but it's tail instead of tattoo. I was amused by it as I wasn't even thinking about that when writing it.

    • @plumlogan
      @plumlogan 7 років тому +1

      Bunny Whisperer agreed - I prefer fucking women, too

  • @shadowslayer1985
    @shadowslayer1985 7 років тому

    fincher's version is good and curiously add some details Swedish version removes sadly the other two parts of the story are sweedish exclusive

  • @Mira-od2xu
    @Mira-od2xu 4 роки тому

    good analysis

  • @timafiggy
    @timafiggy 7 років тому

    wow! the girl with the Sage tattoo is watch the video of the girl with the dragon tattoo

  • @ersia87
    @ersia87 7 років тому

    It was a while since I saw the original version, but I saw the remake last night. I was very impressed with the photography and lightning work in the remake as well as the subtleties in the acting showing how the relationship, especially between Blomkvist and Salander, was developing. With the ending however I was a bit disapointed. I was waiting for that adrenaline rush that never came, which might be explained by the different ways that scene is made in the two movies. I was much more on edge with Haber's portrayal of Martin in the final scene than I was with Skargård's. Looking at the big picture however I must admit the american version was more skilfully made. It was also nice to see Craig as an american actor in a Swedish envronment. Doesn't happen everyday. ^^

  • @MInesV86
    @MInesV86 5 років тому +1

    I like the Swedish version with Lisbeth's portray that Mara does I think she understood the antisocial thing Also Rapace (who is incredible too) makes it more physically aggressive and with too much make up and Mara is so subtle,I prefer her

    • @MInesV86
      @MInesV86 5 років тому

      I meant I would have liked the Swedish with Mara's characterisation

  • @truthof7382
    @truthof7382 Рік тому

    Seen both, like the American version a lot more because of the tone, coloring, mood etc, things you outline here. Also largely because I think the Marra/Lisbeth is the more interesting character. You make excellent examples in the conference room scene with Lisbeth behavior. Also, look at the Repace/Lisbeth, she is made up with goth makeup including lipstick. Her outfit is almost a Halloween costume of how a Lisbeth would dress. Lisbeth would have to care how the world saw her to even put on lipstick, and take the time to dress like that. Repace picks up the coffee mug with two hands showing a female trait, where as Marra played her as not male or female really. Clearly Lisbeth is female, but Marta’s version is down the center, making her version more interesting IMO.

  • @wildcard749
    @wildcard749 3 роки тому

    i fuckin loved david finchers version

  • @abdullahal-omair1883
    @abdullahal-omair1883 4 роки тому +1

    Fincher movie is better in every aspect, especially the soundtrack and the direction is just amazing

  • @eziukasLT
    @eziukasLT 4 роки тому +1

    Î prefer Noomi Rapace !

  • @barrygoldwater2441
    @barrygoldwater2441 Рік тому

    The Swedish version is a pale imitation of the American one. Fincher's sets, scenes, and actors are so much better.

  • @Haze1434
    @Haze1434 8 років тому +44

    The Swedish version looks no where near as good.

    • @BlizzPort
      @BlizzPort 8 років тому +27

      Your IQ must be low

    • @setgiga_3397
      @setgiga_3397 7 років тому +5

      Haze1434 you mean the original version based on the swedish boom written by a swede?

    • @Haze1434
      @Haze1434 7 років тому +10

      Your point being what? The newer version was also based on the Swedish book written by a swede? Oh, I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that the place on the planet in which something was written had any precedence over who could make a film about it.

    • @Haze1434
      @Haze1434 7 років тому +3

      129. So no.

    • @sandbach7195
      @sandbach7195 7 років тому +8

      I saw the foreign version first and enjoyed it much more than the Hollywood version.

  • @julietspaghetti
    @julietspaghetti 7 років тому +1

    Noomi Rapace / Rooney Mara- whoever plays the sequel even tho the author is dead- somebody please finish it....

  • @TheEyeSeesAll
    @TheEyeSeesAll 4 роки тому

    The Swedish script is far inferior. Amateur storytelling. And that lisbeth looks like a costume on Halloween. She’s very loud visually and physically. Not my fav.

  • @mr.orange2179
    @mr.orange2179 7 років тому +1

    I think the movie copying in hollywood needs to be stopped or at least maybe the "o so creative Jews" need to start changing every scene with the story ending basically the same way....

  • @gaebren9021
    @gaebren9021 6 років тому

    I preferred the David Fincher film (English version) and preferred the way Rooney played Lisbeth.
    The difference, I felt, between the films is that the Swedish one seemed to be more about voyeurism. They really played up Lisbeth's gathering data on Mickael to the point that it seemed almost sexualized. It felt like an every, well not every, but some men's wet dream to have a hot exotic girl spying on him. So we the audience are getting off on watching her, watching him.
    The David Fincher film seem to focus more on women. There were lots of very strong female characters in the film. Women that I could relate to.
    Anyway, both were pretty good films.

  • @Daavhimself
    @Daavhimself 8 років тому +27

    Nice comparison. I've seen Fincher's version twice now. He is my favorite director, so obviously I'm biased, but I do plan on seeing the Swedish version as well as I've heard nothing but good things.

    • @Luvie1980
      @Luvie1980 Рік тому +3

      The Swedish version sticks closer to the book.

  • @LETTIS79
    @LETTIS79 7 років тому +54

    And why the title "The girl with the dragon tatoo"? The swedish original title "Men who hate women" is much better and thought provoking.

    • @GrandHighGamer
      @GrandHighGamer 7 років тому

      Probably to tie (the book) with The Girl Who Played With Fire. Plus MWHW runs the line between sounding trite and sounding like a book about misogyny through the ages.

    • @SevenEllen
      @SevenEllen 7 років тому +1

      It's very on-the-nose though. *tattoo

    • @gevorkbabayan
      @gevorkbabayan 6 років тому

      You can thank sjw for that

    • @unipachu
      @unipachu 5 років тому

      I agree, the original name has much more heft to it. Too bad they changed it cause in almost every other aspect i think the american version is better.

    • @j.avocado
      @j.avocado 4 роки тому +2

      That's such a generic on the nose title

  • @suesturges6022
    @suesturges6022 5 років тому +8

    Swedish one is so much better!

  • @PiCheZvara
    @PiCheZvara Рік тому +3

    I think Fincher's version's biggest strength and biggest weakness is the same - being more refined, polished and tidy as a product than the Swedish version.
    You see Fincher's a world class director working with top of the line equipment and personnel. It makes the movie look more professional. But by the same token this makes the movie also more anemic, less gritty.
    Another thing is you see the Swedish original is attempting to do an American style thriller, but it's still "held back" in this regard by the cultural barrier and a smaller budget. The American version is American through and through - it's more obvious in its artistic choices. The cold color scheme because we are in "foreign and cold Sweden", the flashy main titles, the more merchandise-savvy get-up of Lisbeth.
    And lastly Lisbeth. Rooney Mara looks like an American suburban upper middle class teenager going through a rebellious phase, who thinks Green Day are punk rock. It looks like a pose. And she is way too neat in her look to be truly weird, too meticulous. Noomi is still too pretty and tidy to pass for a legit weirdo, but her get-up, again probably due to budget and culture, isn't as obviously polished and aimed at grumpy teenagers.
    Both versions have merit. IMO Fincher missed an opportunity to deliver a great movie in order to satisfy the studio's demand for a "clean product".

    • @yourfriendoverseas5810
      @yourfriendoverseas5810 9 місяців тому

      This is one of the best comparisons I've read between the two movies.

  • @sallylee4924
    @sallylee4924 6 років тому +10

    Characters don't always need a build up for introduction. Films don't always need to be stylized with thematic colors to be excellent.

  • @davidthomspson9771
    @davidthomspson9771 6 років тому +3

    Swedish version way better

  • @1articoli
    @1articoli 5 років тому +3

    Edge to the Swedish version and to Rapace.

  • @AshtonishingJelly
    @AshtonishingJelly 3 роки тому +1

    The Swedish version is best! There is no argue! I will admit this is not the worst American version of a brilliant European story! There have been so many worse than this! This American version, IS good!
    But it is just not as good as the Swedish version!
    Americans always glam up, alter and americanize everything! But that does not make it better!
    The plots are not better! They are just americanized to what americans are used to seeing!
    There is always such a feeling of loss of the sense of reality, and a loss of "real people" that doesn't all look like Barbie and Ken dolls, when Americans butcher European movies, instead of just enjoying the original and not conforming everything to American ways! In general, it's a God damn shame!
    Again I do think the American version of the movie is good! But I don't get why Americans are so narrow-minded, that they can't enjoy anything that doesn't come out of America!!

    • @AshtonishingJelly
      @AshtonishingJelly 3 роки тому +1

      Noomi Rapace is the only real Lisbeth Salander! ❤️😄

  • @JaneDoe-ql7sc
    @JaneDoe-ql7sc 5 років тому +14

    i like the Swedish version WAY more than the American version. For one thing, the actress is far more authentic to the part, she is perfect in every way for that part and clearly embraced it to portray the character beautifully - top job! Also, all the actors in the Swedish version look so perfect for their roles. The comparisons of lighting and where people are seated, etc. have no bearing in an already perfect movie and it seems a distinctly American literary view to think such obvious things do not distract rather than enhance. We don't need a darker room to create tension etc. because the brighter room reveals the tension that is portrayed by the actors, for example, when the fellow in the office sees the nose-ringed wild looking young woman for the first time, and when she does not shake his extended hand. Many of us have worked in b right office environments, which are the norm, and it always feels semi-surreal and uncomfortable in such lighting, so i feel the brighter lighting was also perfect, while the darker lighting in the American version stood out as a silly nod to literary devices, Such devices are somehow trivializing, presenting as if requisite to a 'good story,' but they are very upsetting nuisances that distract when you enjoy a story and don't wish to be distracted by all these constant nods/obeisant bows to techniques. I love the honest feel of the family get-together in the Swedish version, so impromptu and genuine. But the main actors in the original are, throughout, absolutely riveting. The "rapist pig" isn't aggrandized into a slob, so obvious and ridiculous in the American version! Instead, the Swedish version presents a very cultured and refined, trustworthy-looking gentleman who would most definitely (we women naturally understand) be believed by the authorities were he to make a false report against his charge; while we simultaneously realize of a certainty that any complaint Lisbeth might make against him to the authorities would inevitably fall upon deaf ears... The American version - why was it made?

  • @teodorbrekke
    @teodorbrekke 5 років тому +1

    In the swedish version, there is no clues for that Martin is the killer, still I felt/guessed it. But in the American version is too easy, with the weapon cage and stuff. The swedish one is much more authentic and raw.

  • @Jon_from_LI
    @Jon_from_LI 7 місяців тому

    I definitely prefer the Swedish version over the American version; but admit the American version does have its qualities.
    My primary concern with the American version was the ending. For whatever reason, Finch had Lisbeth ask Mikhael's permission to go after Martin. Lisbeth Salander WOULD NEVER ASK ANYONE'S PERMISSION, not even someone she is fond with.

  • @adiscourse9489
    @adiscourse9489 4 роки тому

    I really dislike the blue filter in all movies. I feel it is not necessary.

  • @douglasmccannpiano
    @douglasmccannpiano 5 років тому

    skaarsgard swedish actor playing the bad guy in the american version... is the only good thing in the american film, which falls far below naomi rapace version... who would do a remake of rocky without stallone

  • @lemonhead162
    @lemonhead162 2 роки тому

    I can't wait to see the Swedish version, although the American version was sooooo good! Rooney Mara looked the part so well: beautiful, yet vulnerable.....

  • @bigbob1699
    @bigbob1699 5 років тому

    Any good film maker should know that a much bigger budget gives the director more room to paint the big picture and give depth to the story. The books and the movies are great art and should be watched over and over again.

  • @manicstreet6278
    @manicstreet6278 6 років тому +3

    I really dont understand why people say the english version sucks. Fincher did an amazing job with this franchise, Rooney Mara was incredible, even better than Daniel Craig in my opinion. I'll go as far as to say that both movies did a really good job capturing what made the book so successful, but Fincher's version did it more justice, the atmosphere that Fincher potrays in the movie is incredible, if feels way more dark and cold that the Swedish version wich is one of the biggest differences between the two. Also Trent Reznor made a 10/10 soundtrack for the english version. So i'd say without a doubt that the English version is better, wich of course takes nothing away from the Swedish one considering the difference in the budget and the cast.

    • @dechanezlea6136
      @dechanezlea6136 5 років тому

      It’s funny because to me the darkness you’re describing from Fincher’s adaptation is what’s making the movie less interesting, in my opinion... it takes over the rest and we actually lose the amazing different shades from the books... something we don’t in Swedish adaptation.
      Again it’s just my opinion and it certainly depends on what you’re expecting from a movie like that!
      The Swedish version was thought as a trilogy and we have to watch it as such.
      I have to disagree about the soundtrack though : Jacob Roth’s soundtrack is just amazing and perfect for the adaptation! “Would anybody die for me?” 😍🤯🥰 just wahoo !

  • @pault1964
    @pault1964 7 років тому

    The American version didn't want the other two films it's crap

  • @Lucy-mm2mg
    @Lucy-mm2mg 2 роки тому

    Great video!

  • @GrandHighGamer
    @GrandHighGamer 7 років тому +6

    I feel like Noomi visually doesn't pull of Lizbeth as well as Rooney. She just looks so healthy in comparison to the pale and thin Rooney version. Felt like they were relying too heavily on the wardrobe. I also think the spiked collar was really overboard whereas Rooney's version is still quite extreme but felt a little more believably punk (even the shaved eyebrows worked for me, though maybe not the hairstyle).

    • @JaneDoe-ql7sc
      @JaneDoe-ql7sc 5 років тому

      i saw noomi as thin, pale, edgy and intriguing - a computer hacker and felt rooney looked like an actress

  • @LuLu-Sil
    @LuLu-Sil 3 роки тому +1

    Having seen the 3 Swedish movies, the American remake and read the Millennium Trilogy I connected more with Rooney, she seemed more real to me.
    I saw the 3 movies first, then read the books and finally watched the remake.
    The 2011 portrayal of Lisbeth Salander made more sense to me.
    She was more of a shadow, she didn't like to stand out, she didn't care about being nice... she was more genuine to me. Her anger was quiet and hidden, she didn't advertise it.
    I really wanted to see the 2nd and 3rd movies but they never got made.
    (Not even going to mention the Claire Foy one.)
    I never much liked Mikael, any version.

  • @israelphoenix
    @israelphoenix 6 років тому

    Thanks,
    I just read the Girl Who Kicked The Hornets Nest. I didn't realize there were two versions of the movie. The adverts for the non Finscher one did not impress me, because, as you said, Salander was reclusive.

  • @filthysock
    @filthysock 6 років тому +1

    So hard to choose! I just finished the book (in Norwegian), and I think the English trailer looks amazing! It feels like it captures more authenticity, and more details from the book. I saw the Swedish version when it came out (so long ago...), but it went right over my head back then, and all I remember is the feeling of way too much being edited and shoved in to way too short time, leaving an end result which I just felt clueless watching. I had no idea what the actual plot was. Seeing both trailers now, I feel like I would have got the plot from the English version. Obviously Noomi Rapace has a much sexier, gripping look, but I feel like the Hollywood version of Salander is more the odd looking girl I pictured from reading the book. I wanna get the English version, the only thing holding me back is everybody in the comments section saying how much of the authenticity is lost in it...

    • @vatsalamolly
      @vatsalamolly 6 років тому +1

      If you still haven't, go get the English version. As somebody who read the books, watched the swedish movies, enjoyed them, and was mildly irritated with the idea of a Hollywood remake, trust me the English version is good. I'm not saying the swedish versions are bad, but I enjoy rewatching the English version way more.

  • @dogma9609
    @dogma9609 3 роки тому

    for those who thought the Swedish version was better..
    watch ua-cam.com/video/SNyJGHDKBng/v-deo.html
    its only 14 minutes long. Fincher's version was brilliant when compared