The thing is that many of the army books in 4th are the actual army books in 5th WHFB and the 4th and 5th rules are so similar all their books / supplements are interchangeable. And you mention expensive, just look at the army book prices and then drop your jaw at say the magic box expansions for 4th.
Great ideas, I too have 5th edition rules and am attempting to learn it... Even after all these years this era of Warhammer appeals the most. Thanks for posting
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You have the Skirmish book, fine. otherwise I would just say, play Mordheim, use Empire in Flames if you want to go outside the city. :) All is free on the web.. Cool project, quite a few people doing this, me included. WHFB is not dead!
been collecting 40k since dark vengeance. newly into playing dungeon crawls and getting into Warhammer quest i have to say i LOVE collecting the old minis from the early 90s they have a personality that is second to none
Well chosen Mate. I still play 6th edition and have wood elves along with many other armies. I also play mostly Skirmish these days as i dont have the time for larger battles.. Unfortunately Brettonian minis are rare as rocking horse poo these days but i have found good alternatives from Fireforge games and their Deus Vult range. They even do a box of Pegasus knights.
Ooh thanks for the heads up. Yep I can see me using many alternatives. The next video covers putting together my first warband and there are alternatives in it already
Love it, I hope your journey goes well, I would recommend that you try 6th with no add on rules from other editions until you get the hang of it. Then once you are comfortable you can add in rules you think are necessary etc but if you do it from the start you'll never really get a true feel for 6th (the importance of charging to go first, the importance of trying to wipe out the front rank so there are less strikes back, the importance of heroes to bolster units) Step up changes this considerably!
@@TheBattlinBarrowGaming i also highly recommended KINGS OF WAR they had 3rd edition release last year and is very much like Warhammer Fantasy. Models are fantastic and game is easy 😊. www.manticgames.com/games/kings-of-war/kings-of-war-3rd-edition/. Also the prices for boxsets are fantastic. Give it a look and see what you think. As collecting Warhammer is very expensive. On a 2nd Note they are bringing the Old World back to Games Workshop and the model concepts look amazing. I currently own Wood Elfs and Dwarfs for warhammer fantasy. Never painted as they kept updating the editions (one of the reasons why i stopped collecting), i felt like you would master one rule set and then they land another edition. If restrictions ever get taken away ill happily bring them down for you.
well TBH under further inspections there is metric shitton of h9les in 6th ruleset. I belive best is 7th edition rulebook and 6th edition armybooks - like state of the game as for 7th ed launch 7th tidied up escaping, skirmishers, implemented a lot of stuff that was errata'd in 6th, added free reform after combat.
5th is my number 1. I bought 2 copies of Battle Masters for most of the miniatures. Em4 miniatures dwalves are good for conversions. Only the elves cost a bit.
Totally agree with your opinion that 5th and 6th are the definitive warhammer editions (especially rules/gameplay wise) and with your approach of running the oldhammer rules and then cherry picking any of the modern rules/tweaks that improve to the gameplay (it’s exactly what I plan to do when I get back into it - in the process of planning an army!)
I am trying to decide which one to get into from 4th 5th and 6th. I get the 5th vs 6th comparrisons. But what is the downsides to 4th compared to both of them??? Anyone feel free to answer this!!
Core rules wise there is not much difference really. The big difference is that 4th and 5th edition each had their own seperate magic supplements that are not compatible with each other. I thought I got the 5th edition one but turned out it was the 4th (theres a video on the channel). Apart from that any real major difference was in teh army books themselves I guess.
The four armies you've picked out here are the exact same armies I've been considering! I'm thinking of using a lot of proxy models from Mantic Games and Warlord Miniatures; it will be a fun painting project at the very least.
If I was going to group the editions into "eras", I'd say that 6th and 7th are far closer one-another than 5th and 6th. 6th was a complete rule re-set (in that none of the books from 5th were valid in 6th). 4th books still worked in 5th, and 6th still worked in 7th (and even 8th!).
I'm a year late, but have exactly the same motivations as you. There's something that's always intrigued me with childish joy about WFB that 40k and AoS just don't bring. The only other game which does the same is Bloodbowl. I did some eBay sniping last month to get 50+ Night Goblins, they're meant to pair with Orks but I've never been a fan of Orks, so a vast army of little guys it is!
2nd edition ftw use whatever model you like build an army however you like no army books or codex to tell you what can field any rule disagreements sorted by rock paper scissors easy flowing fun game.On a side note 3d printing has made the game even better
For anyone getting into Warhammer Fantasy, no matter the edition, try out the Orcs. A really fun army to play with. Just get Night Goblins with Fanatics, at least a single Giant, and a Doom Diver. Win or lose, you'll be entertained
Agree and thanks for great vid ,also decided not to long ago to return to Warhammer fantasy, large collection of figs etc tucked away about to see a new dawn
I played both actively and I personally enjoyed 5th edition magic more than the new model of magic in 6th. Though 6th edition was way more balanced and also magic was more reliable than in 5th edition.
I’ve not ordered from them myself yet but black tree design have some nice bretonnian looking models under their fantasy men of averaign range. Might be worth checking out claymore castings site as well
If you are open to borrowing rules from other editions, I’d look into third edition and warhammer historical. There are lots of rules that you may want to consider borrowing. 6th is a good foundation. But 3rd has free hacks, pushback, a better to hit chart for close combat.
Ngl 4th edition magic is better due to the fact 4th/5th the magic phase is last phase in the turn. In 5th you cast spells on your own turn so you can’t easily use magic to set yourself up. 4th edition this isn’t a problem as you can cast in enemy’s turn too, so use the magic you need then to set yourself up in your imminent magic phase.
Yeah I maybe I should of started easier haha like I have aton of orcs and goblins and loads of undead....Still slowly collecting though but decided to duel collect Wood Elves too....
In my opinion it would be 6th which has its own skirmish section in the rulebook about smaller games and additional rules for it (or tweaks to the base rules) and it plays really well. These are the same rules that formed the basis of Morheim too.
Dude, playing whfb. Get into 3d printing if your up to it. Such a powerful tool to bring old systems back to life. Plenty of people making compatible models out there, with styles to suit your taste.
If you want some cheaper options for Bretonnia, look at Claymore Castings, or 1st corps, their ranges include spearmen and halberdiers which are very similar to the 6th edition castings. On ebay it is easy to buy the knights and archers cheap, but the rest of the Infantry, mounted yeomen and characters, seem to be OP.
@@TheBattlinBarrowGaming Well with the Bret book they cut a lot of the painting tips, tactical advice and stuff about the heraldry. I think the page font was reduced so less text in the 6th book although the page count is similar.
I was tempted to but a complete set of that this month, but didn't due to not being able to play it as no opponent. The miniatures though would very useful.
I’ve bought up tons of battle masters for orcs, chaos, and empire units. Try to stick to £1 a mini for rank and file and double that for cavalry. Also- Old Glory 25s has great figures in their Wars Of Religion range for empire. And their Italian Wars range is pretty good for infantry. They have an extensive range of Landsknecht. Not the best looking sculpts individually, but en masse they look great. They have very dynamic poses. Stay away from Old Glory cavalry as they’re a little too small to stand beside other manufacturers. Perry miniatures can fill your need for a lot of Empire and Bretonian figures.
step up rule would completely imbalance some 6th edition elite units. Those units relied on getting the charge or their high initiative to fight first, slay and therefore not be slain. You are giving a lot of power to things like dwarfs, vampires; which were very powerful already. 6th has a much better magic phase and psychology rules. You arent penalised as much for taking regiment units.
By the time I got into Warhammer it was in the 6th edition in to to the 7th edition. The old GW website had other skirmish battles. They had a bretonnia had a huge skirmish battle. Here is how the old GW website was. You can download the skirmish battles they had. Just there is no more pictures. web.archive.org/web/20050131084844/us.games-workshop.com/games/warhammer/default.htm
I played 5th-8th (the bitter end) and I was around during 4th. Late 4th is a great game. 5th your army is just chaff; if you like rank and flank its not for you. 6th IMO is the best edition made by GW. Every army got a book except chaos dwarfs (if you want to play CW play 4th). Every book had none standard ways to make a army in the back. Everything was very well balanced as long as you leave out the 2nd release of the dwarf book (its 7th). 7th was the worst version of the game, whatever the new book was won. 8th with Swiss Comp and none end times material was good but not every army had a book so there were some d tier factions. Also imo it became hero hammer when they said 50% of your army could be lords. There are only 3 options imo, 6th, late 4th or early 8th comped
@@TheBattlinBarrowGaming i didn't really get into it cause it was getting long. A big difference between 6th in 8th, is 8th was a lot more deadly because everything got to attack. In 6th blocks dont really get chewed up. They lose combat, fail leadership and get run down (more like actual history). In 8th you had big hordes and they'd only ever break if they lost >75% of the unit. Also one downside of 6th is there were no big beasts. Cannons were to deadly, so any hero outside a unit and monsters got blasted off the table. That got a little bit more balanced in 8th. 4th/5th and AoS is all about big monsters
Hate to be contrary, but since replacing WFB with AoS the company have been performing significantly better. Whether they could have salvaged WFB by putting more time and energy into revamping it, either way AoS has proven to be a significantly more accessible game and has brought a lot more people into the hobby. This is from someone who has played (and started with) WFB 6th. Frankly AoS is a lot more fun. Granted that is just my opinion though. Though it was a dumpster fire when it was first released.
@@Sticklander It's tanking mate I know people who work at Warhammer world, it's 40k that's flying off the shelves. Why do you think they are bringing the old world back.
@@Sticklander If you enjoy AoS keep playing it, I think it's just maybe I'm older and was into Warhammer fantasy from a young age, so I'm just old and grumpy lol
Go for 6ed, its the most fun, diverse, balanced, and easy to learn. Good amount of units with very little redundancy. Or even 7ed, after, if you want more unit options. Stay FAR away from 8ed, it legit killed the game with how bad it is. Unbalanced, unfun meta with cannons vs fodder, if your army has no range or little, better play something else. Pray to god you dont enjoy a 6ed faction, because you wont get any support for it in 8ed.
Yeah 8 didnt appeal to me at all really. I went for 5th / 6th era as I love the look of the game style wise back then and both sets of rules appealed to me.
I did notice 40k was for younger people; Fantasy was for older people. This was typically true due to the difference in complexity, but also the rank and file and more classical nature of Fantasy. It's just a more serious, grounded game. I think this is why you also tended to get more childish gamers for 40k, which tends to mean younger people. I find myself liking the rank and file idea more, and hope they bring back some Old World soon. I'm 26, no longer 12. Big difference. Key difference might be that studies and personality science indicate that people get more conservative and traditional around age 26 onwards, which might imply a more innate connection to something like Fantasy over 40k. Fantasy is also quite difficult when you're 12, and since you're innately going against older men, it's not a great idea; thus, I recall almost everybody my age playing 40k. Of course, painting Fantasy for the sake of it was common, but not the game itself. I recall only a handful of players around my age, and I know for a fact they were more conservative in nature and high IQ types (which makes sense). Such types tend to play more than paint. Rare to see great overlap here. Common with females was Vampires (which also makes some sense), though I never saw a single woman ever play the game itself: only paint. The only option I noticed for more Right-wing types in 40k was -- not so shockingly -- the Imperial Guard (aka the military). Strangely, the Armymen were not popular in a wargame, but not strangely, we're talking about a 21st-century sci-fi game for a younger gamer: he wants monsters and space elves, not boring tanks. The only people I knew with such tanks were 35-year-old men, and they clearly very much liked all things military (as is typical in the hobby). Anyway, long story short... the older I get, the more I like Fantasy and the more classical armies of GW. I still love Orks and other madness, though! (I am praying they bring back Fantasy in 2023 with Old World so that I can create an army again.)
absolutely love 5th, and sixth. currently rebuilding all my old fantasy armies now lol
Nice one! Let me know how you get on, it's an expensive business doing it now though as I am finding out
The thing is that many of the army books in 4th are the actual army books in 5th WHFB and the 4th and 5th rules are so similar all their books / supplements are interchangeable. And you mention expensive, just look at the army book prices and then drop your jaw at say the magic box expansions for 4th.
Great ideas, I too have 5th edition rules and am attempting to learn it... Even after all these years this era of Warhammer appeals the most. Thanks for posting
Thanks for watching and commenting
6th edition is a great edition to jump into! Enjoy your journey into WFB.
Hey! Cheers from Poland!
6th got very popular here last couple years, we have multiple meetings/tournaments per year, each over 15/20 players!
Thats fantasic! So its still going strong, that is encouraging.
Sounds pretty cool!
Wher to be precise I am interested.
5th is great and the models, art etc are much more to my taste....saying that, I like 4th too.
4th and 5th edition are my favs so many memories of using those rule sets - the magic cards loved them!!! Had so many fun times with those rules :-)
whats the difference between 4th and 5th?? i am trying ti decide
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I started this years January with the 6th Edition and I think it's absolutely amazing. I play Dwarfs, Vampires, Beast-Man and Dark Elves.
You were ahead of the curve on this dude
Thanks :D
You have the Skirmish book, fine. otherwise I would just say, play Mordheim, use Empire in Flames if you want to go outside the city. :) All is free on the web..
Cool project, quite a few people doing this, me included. WHFB is not dead!
id say 7th edition with the 6th edition armybooks is the best gaming experience.
been collecting 40k since dark vengeance. newly into playing dungeon crawls and getting into Warhammer quest i have to say i LOVE collecting the old minis from the early 90s they have a personality that is second to none
6th glorious 6th, 6th, 6th , 6th, 6th and 6th.
Well chosen Mate. I still play 6th edition and have wood elves along with many other armies. I also play mostly Skirmish these days as i dont have the time for larger battles.. Unfortunately Brettonian minis are rare as rocking horse poo these days but i have found good alternatives from Fireforge games and their Deus Vult range. They even do a box of Pegasus knights.
Ooh thanks for the heads up. Yep I can see me using many alternatives. The next video covers putting together my first warband and there are alternatives in it already
Love it, I hope your journey goes well, I would recommend that you try 6th with no add on rules from other editions until you get the hang of it. Then once you are comfortable you can add in rules you think are necessary etc but if you do it from the start you'll never really get a true feel for 6th (the importance of charging to go first, the importance of trying to wipe out the front rank so there are less strikes back, the importance of heroes to bolster units) Step up changes this considerably!
I think that was the plan. Standard rules first before any house rules.
Hands down id say 6th. It was clearer rules etc it really brought the old world to life
Yes the 6th does seem to be the nicest ruleset.
@@TheBattlinBarrowGaming i also highly recommended KINGS OF WAR they had 3rd edition release last year and is very much like Warhammer Fantasy. Models are fantastic and game is easy 😊. www.manticgames.com/games/kings-of-war/kings-of-war-3rd-edition/. Also the prices for boxsets are fantastic. Give it a look and see what you think. As collecting Warhammer is very expensive.
On a 2nd Note they are bringing the Old World back to Games Workshop and the model concepts look amazing.
I currently own Wood Elfs and Dwarfs for warhammer fantasy. Never painted as they kept updating the editions (one of the reasons why i stopped collecting), i felt like you would master one rule set and then they land another edition.
If restrictions ever get taken away ill happily bring them down for you.
well TBH under further inspections there is metric shitton of h9les in 6th ruleset. I belive best is 7th edition rulebook and 6th edition armybooks - like state of the game as for 7th ed launch
7th tidied up escaping, skirmishers, implemented a lot of stuff that was errata'd in 6th, added free reform after combat.
still playing 2nd edition with army books from 2006. we love the lichmaster and the mc death.
The 5th is my favorite. My Dog of Wars full army with rule book is still under my bed.
Nice video, look forward to more
I’m trying to get into 8th. Thank god for fans keeping it alive, nehekara will live!
5th is the definitive edition.
6th was the best. Cleanest set of rules, rulebook and army books.
The army books in 6th were really thematic
5th is my number 1. I bought 2 copies of Battle Masters for most of the miniatures. Em4 miniatures dwalves are good for conversions. Only the elves cost a bit.
Check out the Warhammer Armies project. Their 9th edition for Warhammer Fantasy Battles is probably the best of 6th and 8th put together.
Thanks I shall give it a whirl may save me time houseruling my own verison :D
100% true. I believe it contains the best of each editions to create a single definitive edition. WAP RULES!
8:43 wow look at that wonderful art this is why i love the older stuff
I do love the art style from this era
Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for watching and commenting, really means a lot to me
6th all the way.
Totally agree with your opinion that 5th and 6th are the definitive warhammer editions (especially rules/gameplay wise) and with your approach of running the oldhammer rules and then cherry picking any of the modern rules/tweaks that improve to the gameplay (it’s exactly what I plan to do when I get back into it - in the process of planning an army!)
Exellent. I need to get back into WH too. Been really focused on D&D recently
I am trying to decide which one to get into from 4th 5th and 6th. I get the 5th vs 6th comparrisons. But what is the downsides to 4th compared to both of them??? Anyone feel free to answer this!!
Core rules wise there is not much difference really. The big difference is that 4th and 5th edition each had their own seperate magic supplements that are not compatible with each other. I thought I got the 5th edition one but turned out it was the 4th (theres a video on the channel).
Apart from that any real major difference was in teh army books themselves I guess.
The four armies you've picked out here are the exact same armies I've been considering! I'm thinking of using a lot of proxy models from Mantic Games and Warlord Miniatures; it will be a fun painting project at the very least.
I'm started my bretonnian army with a view to buy the odd wood elf piece here and there
@@TheBattlinBarrowGaming Nice, I'll probably end up going for Vampire Counts myself. Good luck collecting
If I was going to group the editions into "eras", I'd say that 6th and 7th are far closer one-another than 5th and 6th.
6th was a complete rule re-set (in that none of the books from 5th were valid in 6th). 4th books still worked in 5th, and 6th still worked in 7th (and even 8th!).
I'm a year late, but have exactly the same motivations as you. There's something that's always intrigued me with childish joy about WFB that 40k and AoS just don't bring. The only other game which does the same is Bloodbowl. I did some eBay sniping last month to get 50+ Night Goblins, they're meant to pair with Orks but I've never been a fan of Orks, so a vast army of little guys it is!
2nd edition ftw use whatever model you like build an army however you like no army books or codex to tell you what can field any rule disagreements sorted by rock paper scissors easy flowing fun game.On a side note 3d printing has made the game even better
For anyone getting into Warhammer Fantasy, no matter the edition, try out the Orcs. A really fun army to play with. Just get Night Goblins with Fanatics, at least a single Giant, and a Doom Diver. Win or lose, you'll be entertained
Me and buddies play 8th currently but switching to 6th.
Personally, I wanna do a homebrew with 5th ed armies books and rules with 6th ed magic system.
That sounds like something I have considered, 5th army books with 6th magic system.
4th edition was out when I got interested in Warhammer but like 5th as well as said in vid ability to mix and match is fantastic 👍
I think I will prefer playing now rather than back in the day because its not a live game and I can take elements I like from all editions
Agree and thanks for great vid ,also decided not to long ago to return to Warhammer fantasy, large collection of figs etc tucked away about to see a new dawn
Started with 5th. Want to play the 8th one👍
I played both actively and I personally enjoyed 5th edition magic more than the new model of magic in 6th. Though 6th edition was way more balanced and also magic was more reliable than in 5th edition.
Warhammer editions grouped to an era/similar rule set.
1st and 2nd.
3rd.
4th and 5th.
6th and 7th.
8th.
Any chance for narrated videos for some of the skirmishes you plan to play?
I will be doing a video of the first game I play. Getting rules correct wise it won't be pretty haha
I’ve not ordered from them myself yet but black tree design have some nice bretonnian looking models under their fantasy men of averaign range. Might be worth checking out claymore castings site as well
6th is a great ed the on i play but try em all! might as well u can get all the pdfs online
If you are open to borrowing rules from other editions, I’d look into third edition and warhammer historical. There are lots of rules that you may want to consider borrowing. 6th is a good foundation. But 3rd has free hacks, pushback, a better to hit chart for close combat.
Ngl 4th edition magic is better due to the fact 4th/5th the magic phase is last phase in the turn. In 5th you cast spells on your own turn so you can’t easily use magic to set yourself up.
4th edition this isn’t a problem as you can cast in enemy’s turn too, so use the magic you need then to set yourself up in your imminent magic phase.
Never played 2nd and 3rd with a GM, it's been a few years ... but I'm pretty sure you don't need one.
Starting with bretonnia wow good luck man
Yeah I maybe I should of started easier haha like I have aton of orcs and goblins and loads of undead....Still slowly collecting though but decided to duel collect Wood Elves too....
@@TheBattlinBarrowGaming nice good luck on your warhammer fantasy adventures!!!
Thank you. Always lived the setting and read the novels and played other board games set In the world just never actually played the real game
A bit late, but what edition is best for smaller games? (>20 modelsk).
In my opinion it would be 6th which has its own skirmish section in the rulebook about smaller games and additional rules for it (or tweaks to the base rules) and it plays really well. These are the same rules that formed the basis of Morheim too.
@@TheBattlinBarrowGaming thanks
Dude, playing whfb. Get into 3d printing if your up to it. Such a powerful tool to bring old systems back to life. Plenty of people making compatible models out there, with styles to suit your taste.
Haha I have a wife that is anti me getting one maybe one day. Do they do oldhammer style models anywhere?
@@TheBattlinBarrowGaming yeah, totally. You just have to hunt around, troll through myminifactory, cg trader and patreon.
If you want some cheaper options for Bretonnia, look at Claymore Castings, or 1st corps, their ranges include spearmen and halberdiers which are very similar to the 6th edition castings. On ebay it is easy to buy the knights and archers cheap, but the rest of the Infantry, mounted yeomen and characters, seem to be OP.
Thanks for the tips. Claymore Castings look lovely
@@TheBattlinBarrowGaming Do you have the 5th edition Bret book, more character's and background than the 6th version.
@@johnp4000 I don't yet but I'm seriously considering it if the 5th to 6th edition wood elf book is anything to go by. So much cut from the 6th
@@TheBattlinBarrowGaming Well with the Bret book they cut a lot of the painting tips, tactical advice and stuff about the heraldry. I think the page font was reduced so less text in the 6th book although the page count is similar.
Fire forge games do a" not brettonian knights" fantasy knights box set and Pegasus.
6th, 4th and 5th were herohammer on steroids and magic was obscenely powerful.
Battle Masters miniatures would make great proxies.
I was tempted to but a complete set of that this month, but didn't due to not being able to play it as no opponent. The miniatures though would very useful.
I’ve bought up tons of battle masters for orcs, chaos, and empire units. Try to stick to £1 a mini for rank and file and double that for cavalry.
Also- Old Glory 25s has great figures in their Wars Of Religion range for empire. And their Italian Wars range is pretty good for infantry. They have an extensive range of Landsknecht. Not the best looking sculpts individually, but en masse they look great. They have very dynamic poses. Stay away from Old Glory cavalry as they’re a little too small to stand beside other manufacturers.
Perry miniatures can fill your need for a lot of Empire and Bretonian figures.
Here’s a good blog to help you out:
valleyboyinnz.wordpress.com/2015/04/06/a-long-term-project-great-italian-wars/
I'd say that the best version of the game is by far the Warhammer Armies Project with 6th a close second.
oh i have a BUNCH of Bartonian archers if ya want them
You don't want them anymore??
Look at Perrys or Fireforge
Will do
6th edition hard cover. Nuff said!!
Good answer
step up rule would completely imbalance some 6th edition elite units. Those units relied on getting the charge or their high initiative to fight first, slay and therefore not be slain. You are giving a lot of power to things like dwarfs, vampires; which were very powerful already.
6th has a much better magic phase and psychology rules. You arent penalised as much for taking regiment units.
why play that when we have One Page Rules, which is free rules.
3d printing could be your friend
That would be great but I have a wife haha The wife said no to a 3D printer haha one day maybe.
By the time I got into Warhammer it was in the 6th edition in to to the 7th edition. The old GW website had other skirmish battles. They had a bretonnia had a huge skirmish battle. Here is how the old GW website was. You can download the skirmish battles they had. Just there is no more pictures. web.archive.org/web/20050131084844/us.games-workshop.com/games/warhammer/default.htm
Thanks, I remember the old site, haha prefer it to the modern one. Good to have this archive
@@TheBattlinBarrowGaming yeah I like the older site better too!
I played 5th-8th (the bitter end) and I was around during 4th. Late 4th is a great game. 5th your army is just chaff; if you like rank and flank its not for you. 6th IMO is the best edition made by GW. Every army got a book except chaos dwarfs (if you want to play CW play 4th). Every book had none standard ways to make a army in the back. Everything was very well balanced as long as you leave out the 2nd release of the dwarf book (its 7th). 7th was the worst version of the game, whatever the new book was won. 8th with Swiss Comp and none end times material was good but not every army had a book so there were some d tier factions. Also imo it became hero hammer when they said 50% of your army could be lords. There are only 3 options imo, 6th, late 4th or early 8th comped
Thanks for the useful insist! I have 5th and 6th so I may track down 4th and 8th books.
@@TheBattlinBarrowGaming i didn't really get into it cause it was getting long. A big difference between 6th in 8th, is 8th was a lot more deadly because everything got to attack. In 6th blocks dont really get chewed up. They lose combat, fail leadership and get run down (more like actual history). In 8th you had big hordes and they'd only ever break if they lost >75% of the unit.
Also one downside of 6th is there were no big beasts. Cannons were to deadly, so any hero outside a unit and monsters got blasted off the table. That got a little bit more balanced in 8th. 4th/5th and AoS is all about big monsters
AoS is the prince George of wargaming, everyone hates it but gw will bankrupt itself making it look fashionable.
Haha brilliant haha
Hate to be contrary, but since replacing WFB with AoS the company have been performing significantly better.
Whether they could have salvaged WFB by putting more time and energy into revamping it, either way AoS has proven to be a significantly more accessible game and has brought a lot more people into the hobby.
This is from someone who has played (and started with) WFB 6th. Frankly AoS is a lot more fun. Granted that is just my opinion though. Though it was a dumpster fire when it was first released.
@@Sticklander It's tanking mate I know people who work at Warhammer world, it's 40k that's flying off the shelves.
Why do you think they are bringing the old world back.
@@Flamethrower1942 That's interesting to hear. I suppose 40K has been their most popular game for a long tome.
@@Sticklander If you enjoy AoS keep playing it, I think it's just maybe I'm older and was into Warhammer fantasy from a young age, so I'm just old and grumpy lol
A modified 6th. Just put a minor nerf on the heroes snd it plays great. Or don't and enjoy herohammer in all its glory
I am also now thinking why restrict myself to one edition? I love 5ths hero centric rules ...
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Neither. Go play Oathmark!
Second person in the past month to recommend it to me. I like the sound of it
Go for 6ed, its the most fun, diverse, balanced, and easy to learn. Good amount of units with very little redundancy. Or even 7ed, after, if you want more unit options.
Stay FAR away from 8ed, it legit killed the game with how bad it is. Unbalanced, unfun meta with cannons vs fodder, if your army has no range or little, better play something else. Pray to god you dont enjoy a 6ed faction, because you wont get any support for it in 8ed.
Yeah 8 didnt appeal to me at all really. I went for 5th / 6th era as I love the look of the game style wise back then and both sets of rules appealed to me.
I did notice 40k was for younger people; Fantasy was for older people. This was typically true due to the difference in complexity, but also the rank and file and more classical nature of Fantasy. It's just a more serious, grounded game. I think this is why you also tended to get more childish gamers for 40k, which tends to mean younger people. I find myself liking the rank and file idea more, and hope they bring back some Old World soon. I'm 26, no longer 12. Big difference. Key difference might be that studies and personality science indicate that people get more conservative and traditional around age 26 onwards, which might imply a more innate connection to something like Fantasy over 40k. Fantasy is also quite difficult when you're 12, and since you're innately going against older men, it's not a great idea; thus, I recall almost everybody my age playing 40k. Of course, painting Fantasy for the sake of it was common, but not the game itself. I recall only a handful of players around my age, and I know for a fact they were more conservative in nature and high IQ types (which makes sense). Such types tend to play more than paint. Rare to see great overlap here. Common with females was Vampires (which also makes some sense), though I never saw a single woman ever play the game itself: only paint. The only option I noticed for more Right-wing types in 40k was -- not so shockingly -- the Imperial Guard (aka the military). Strangely, the Armymen were not popular in a wargame, but not strangely, we're talking about a 21st-century sci-fi game for a younger gamer: he wants monsters and space elves, not boring tanks. The only people I knew with such tanks were 35-year-old men, and they clearly very much liked all things military (as is typical in the hobby). Anyway, long story short... the older I get, the more I like Fantasy and the more classical armies of GW. I still love Orks and other madness, though! (I am praying they bring back Fantasy in 2023 with Old World so that I can create an army again.)