Metal Drum Grooves That Don't F**KING SUCK! - Loudstakk Metal MIDI Grooves

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @MarkaryansChain
    @MarkaryansChain Місяць тому +3

    Does this make sense if I have all of the Ugritone midi packs Ron also did? Or is this completely new?

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666  Місяць тому +2

      These are completely different and not the same. I did ask Ron about that and neglected to mention that in the video, my bad. Thanks for asking!

    • @Loudstakk
      @Loudstakk Місяць тому +2

      Completely new grooves

    • @MarkaryansChain
      @MarkaryansChain Місяць тому

      @@Loudstakk Ok, good to know. Good thing it's christmas soon ;) I've been more than satisfied with the Ugritone packs.

  • @AlienorchestraNetoslo
    @AlienorchestraNetoslo Місяць тому +4

    Being using Loudstakk drum midi grooves myself too, very useful HQ grooves & super easy to use and to write new music!

  • @leearmitage
    @leearmitage Місяць тому +1

    Ron has done a great job with these grooves

  • @Frank_Kreepy
    @Frank_Kreepy Місяць тому +1

    I've come to really appreciate drum midi packs this past year, riffs just keep popping out by not fiddling around with the details.
    This will surely be part of my library eventually sounds excellent 👌

  • @LordEarthWolf
    @LordEarthWolf Місяць тому +3

    Even as a guitar player, I will still say that drums are *the* most important part of a band’s/artist’s sound. You could have the exact same riff, but changing up the drums will change up the sound and even the genre sometimes. Getting creative/original drums on your track is what makes or breaks your bands sound.

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666  Місяць тому +1

      And now there are hundreds of grooves you can quickly drag in and check to see what sounds the best. Also it helps learn what the beats are and you could program them in yourself as you grow... win-win!

    • @sword-and-shield
      @sword-and-shield 28 днів тому

      Absolutely, especially if the tune is trying to drive energy. As a former hardcore drummer, my snare work was always bringing the energy. I suggest you, as a guitar player, lay out all the drums first, the full song, make em kick ass on their own to your ears, then lay the guitar down after, around them, almost like a fancy click track. This will make the tune more natural and realistic. As opposed to the other way around, which always creates a disconnect, if using pre made grooves. it wont be easy by any means, but those pre made grooves, fills, and what not, with slight modifications will sound like a real drummer, because it was when recorded, just gotta make em seem real with your guitar, like you made the tune together...Good luck

  • @Christian-dp5zt
    @Christian-dp5zt Місяць тому +2

    Excellent walkthrough as always. Thank you for all that you do. 🤘

  • @michaelj.anderson1116
    @michaelj.anderson1116 Місяць тому +3

    It took me five years or so to finally get good at drum programming and actually understand what I was doing. Now that I've got it down I don't mind programming drums. However, starting out, having good drum grooves really help with inspiration and writing song ideas. I never would have made it this far without them.

  • @CoreyHunter
    @CoreyHunter Місяць тому +1

    I appreciate MIDI groove packs as they make creating lessons much easier. I already play the guitars and program the bass, so anything to save some time is good.

  • @ProjectVastness
    @ProjectVastness Місяць тому +7

    Drum programming , guitar programming, bass programming.... Nightmare!

  • @constantinranis
    @constantinranis Місяць тому +1

    The only groove pack a songwriter will ever need, 2 big plus points for me are 1 every upgrade of that pack comes for free 2 includes the grooves in different maps to fit most of the drum libraries. Horns up for loudstack

  • @AJoylessEon
    @AJoylessEon Місяць тому +1

    I love programming drums.. it's tedious yes.. a labour of love, but I love the end result when it sounds sick.

  • @brutality3777
    @brutality3777 Місяць тому +1

    Loved Ron's work with Ugritone, so will for sure be checking this out. What did you use for the guitar tracks on the demo by the way? Fits great.

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666  Місяць тому

      Thanks, man!!! \m/ Do you mean the guitar tone? I just used my "The Well Rounder" preset in my Marshall Metal pack for Neural DSP Nameless Suite X and then mixed that in \m/

  • @midwestexiled842
    @midwestexiled842 Місяць тому +1

    This is my exact writing process. Take my Money Ron! Awesome vid Scott.

  • @sega.milkis
    @sega.milkis Місяць тому +2

    12:52 the best part 😆

  • @BrainDeadTX
    @BrainDeadTX Місяць тому +1

    I bought these when they came out and I haven’t used anything else since then, they freaking rule! Plus you get free updates for life!

  • @bebopsamurai_music
    @bebopsamurai_music Місяць тому +2

    I hate programming drums and I love MIDI packs which sound like real drummers
    Love the Loudstakk stuff!!!
    And I love you too Scott ❤😂

  • @Metaldad87
    @Metaldad87 Місяць тому +1

    Honestly programming anything in MIDI is a pain in the ass

  • @AndrewWukusick
    @AndrewWukusick Місяць тому +1

    Hell yes, anything to help me write some more Black Metal efficiently

  • @MrAcEsNeIgHtS1188
    @MrAcEsNeIgHtS1188 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for the folder link option info!

  • @descendinguniverse
    @descendinguniverse Місяць тому +2

    i have all the Ugritone packs plus some others, so I`m good. Those seem to be roughly the same

  • @SurvivorMetalMan
    @SurvivorMetalMan Місяць тому

    Loudstakk is the midi grooves out there, everything they offer is outstanding.

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666  Місяць тому

      Ron is a man of quality and Loudstakk continues his legacy!

  • @maastr1088
    @maastr1088 Місяць тому

    Solid video dude

  • @AndrewWukusick
    @AndrewWukusick Місяць тому

    10:03 damn I really dig this

  • @DoobelyDoobelyDoo
    @DoobelyDoobelyDoo Місяць тому

    The melody at 11:00 is awesome! Thank you! 🤘🏻

  • @vomitur
    @vomitur Місяць тому

    Well, the annoying thing when dealing with drum plugins and external midis from different brands and etc is, ok, "I might have to do some moving around", no problem in that, but how do I know what is what? I mean, in a midi file, I play it, and it overall sounds correct, but there's some weird notes in weird places like hitting on the snare rim, or on the ride, or on the kick. How do I find what they are supposed to be instead? Move it around and listen?.. There never is a clear instrument list and this is my main frustration with drum midis external do the "vanilla" included in whatever it is the drum plugin one is using.
    In my case, using Addictive Drums, it is extremely frustrating using external midis, I end up always using the same included ones, and spending weeks at a time editing them... Even with switching and correcting the drum map in the Map Window, there's always a piece of the kit somewhere it shouldn't be. Not going to buy this with a 100% functional drum map...

  • @PASHKULI
    @PASHKULI Місяць тому +1

    The snare on the Fills does not sound robotic\machinegun at all. At all. I guess it has to do with the library sounds though. Sounds the same.

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666  Місяць тому

      The velocity editing and that it was played by a real human has a huge reason to do with that, every hit is different and it goes a long way for realism!

    • @PASHKULI
      @PASHKULI Місяць тому

      @@ChernobylAudio666 I meant the opposite though! Of course it is "machine gun" like. It is audible but that is due to the samples used.

  • @omnivium7096
    @omnivium7096 Місяць тому

    so awesome man

  • @Hoardingcorpses
    @Hoardingcorpses Місяць тому +1

    I love these!!!

  • @atoni
    @atoni Місяць тому

    Are these curated from Ugritone midi-libraries?

  • @KreativeDevices
    @KreativeDevices Місяць тому +1

    Oh Yeah! 🙌

  • @brandondunaway9045
    @brandondunaway9045 Місяць тому

    Will this pack work with Waveform 13 free???

  • @vejichan
    @vejichan Місяць тому

    What ezdrummer 3 expansions packs do.use

  • @rossbalch
    @rossbalch Місяць тому

    I bought a drum MIDI pack from a company I can't remember off hand. So disappointed, it was all grid aligned 127 velocity.

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666  Місяць тому +1

      That sucks. Definitely that will NOT be the case with this one from Loudstakk

    • @rossbalch
      @rossbalch Місяць тому

      @ChernobylAudio666 yeah this looks like what I want a drum midi pack to be.

  • @Tonepusher
    @Tonepusher Місяць тому

    ''Beautiful bastards'' he's definitely talking to me.

  • @VasilisKoskinas
    @VasilisKoskinas Місяць тому

    Hey Scott, great video,but, When are you going to make your Blackened-Death-Doomy Metal album/EP ?Your music always is great you only need a singer!!!

  • @tulihenki4209
    @tulihenki4209 Місяць тому

    Damn those black metal riffs are good.

  • @Loudstakk
    @Loudstakk Місяць тому +2

  • @M2Texas
    @M2Texas Місяць тому +1

    The good news is you no longer need drummers. The bad news is you won't need guitar players in about 18 months for exactly the same reasons you just pointed out.

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666  Місяць тому

      Gotta commend you for this comment. My eyes rolled so far into the back of my head that I saw my ass, which was quite a feat. Was good to confirm that I do, in fact, have a nice ass.

  • @666Ekinox
    @666Ekinox Місяць тому

    Cool guitar, saw one used 600$ didn't buy it... Will be regretting it forever.

  • @thronkvlt1361
    @thronkvlt1361 Місяць тому

    To be honest, the fills/rolls sound very robotic and stiff. I prefer the Toontrack stuff.

  • @lucascabral6976
    @lucascabral6976 Місяць тому

    I actually love to program drums... 😐

  • @sword-and-shield
    @sword-and-shield 28 днів тому

    As far as drums go, this from an old school gigging Hardcore drummer, they have to be created around the guitar AND vocals, if not, it will almost always be lame. Now if you are going to use pre made drum groves from these drum vst's, start the song from there, the drums, a complete song, all parts should gel together and kick your ass, then create the guitar and vocals after, around those drums, still not optimal, but way more natural and realistic. Vocals should always come up together with the rest of the tune as its being hashed out as well, or there is always a disconnect imo, easily heard. There is no way, without extreme luck, you are going to piece together viable drums from pre made groves around an existing guitar track...and sound even remotely "realistic" Good luck

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666  28 днів тому

      Cool, you're a drummer. I am, too. Do you know how many people are capable drummers? Not many. Do you know how many people want to put in the effort to learn how to write drums and program them at a high level? Very few. Do you know how many people just want some good, high quality tools that allow them to write songs and get their ideas out quickly? A fucking metric shit ton. That's what this is about, man. Writing songs. Stop making it about YOU, chief.

    • @sword-and-shield
      @sword-and-shield 28 днів тому

      @@ChernobylAudio666 Wow, you need a re read. Talk about a lame bs reply, that post I made was all about helping, the little bit posting about me meant squat, but just a mild qualifier for my advice. Everything in my post was about helping those deciding to do what you do in the vid reach a goal of more realism, which is the common complaint, if you even read your comments, Hell just delete the whole damn post, guess it bruised some complex clearly.

  • @sarty23
    @sarty23 Місяць тому +2

    I Hate drum programming! HATE

  • @DylanPwnt
    @DylanPwnt Місяць тому

    Since the invention of the digital recording and the ability to quantize the beat (e.g. make everything perfect) drumming in general sucks. No groove. John Bonham would sound shitty quantized.

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666  Місяць тому

      Life is hard Dylan, but you'll figure it out someday, big guy