Catskill Mountain Railroad coaches finally move
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- We are back at the Route 209 crossing along the Hurley Flats in Hurley, where we finally get to see movement of the two coaches that have been sitting on the east side of the crossing for the past 15 or so years. The two coaches in question are 6 axle heavyweight diner Lion Gardiner (formerly New York Central 519) and an old DL&W "Edison" MU. On the west side of Route 209 are two more MU's, as well as a hopper car and a gondola. Those cars have been sitting there just as long. The fact that these two cars are moved now means that progress can be made to cross Route 209 and continue on through Hurley, up Hurley Mountain, and eventually, reach Ashokan Reservoir. This is a proud moment for the CMRR. The good people there have worked extremely hard to achieve this milestone, which included restoring C9 Bridge, which is an old truss bridge over Esopus Creek, as well as laying and spiking new ties to reach these coaches. If you are in the Kingston area or are able to come up to Kingston, please do so. The good people at the CMRR are always looking for a few good volunteers. It is definitely a worthy cause. For more information, visit www.catskillmtrailroad.com. Enjoy the sight of these two old cars moving for the first time in over 15 years, as well as the chug of ALCO RS1 401, and the cheers from the people who have worked so hard to make this day happen. If you have any questions about the video, feel free to message me. Comments are welcome. The video was taken on April 21st, 2013.
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Good on you fella’s for saving these old carriages for future restoration! I think it’s the same as restoring old cars & trucks as they deserve it! And it doesn’t matter what part of the world we are in, it’s good to see like minded people who care about our transport history! Greetings from Melbourne, Australia.
Much love Atlanta Ga.
Update, July 2018: the cars are in various stages of restoration - the Lion Gardiner was sold and shipped out to be restored - and with some additional track work, this section of track is once again "high iron." The volunteer staff at CMRR is a pretty amazing bunch!
countrypaul REALLY (starts crying tears of joy)
Thanks for updating this clip. Do one of the restoration phase if you can.
countrypaul this railway back in use?
Those tracks are being used now? Any videos of restoration.?
@@kittycatlpsproductions2147 .
Thanks for posting this, each one of those cars represents a big part of our history, I’m Canadian, but this is obviously in the United States, but both of our great nations were connected and founded by the railways. I hope they take those beautiful old cars and totally restore them back to their original grandeur. If ever you’re in Toronto, which is where I live, just near the base of the CN Tower, is the old railway round house, which is now a railway museum that has cars from the 1800s all the way up to today, all in perfectly restored order. I can’t explain the feeling you get when you walk into it, it’s like stepping back in time. Much like every major city in North America, Toronto had a huge railway system, which is now completely gone, replace mostly by trucks and public transit trains. But I’m glad that the area where the railway lands used to be, at least a small part of it, has been saved and restored back to the original condition. They even restored one of the conductors booths, one of the very first train stations from the mid-1800s. I’m assuming it’s the same in the United States, because I’ve been to most of your cities, and it’s the one thing we all share in common. Because were a waterfront city, as is most of the East Coast from Nova Scotia all the way down to Florida, goods were brought in by ship, and then distributed via railway. It’s more than just nostalgia, it’s almost romantic in a strange sort of way, as you walk through all the old rail cars, or climb on board the old steam engines, and first diesel trains, you feel like you’re connected to the time period. And while that era is long gone, it’s nice to see that they have preserved so much of it, which is why I pray to God they do the same to these real cars in the video. They have no price, because they’re irreplaceable.
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@@GigglyMan42069 that makes 2 of us
well I HOPE the cars will be restored & not scrapped
microbusss .All but 1 were sold for restoring. We kept 1 for ourselves to restore.
Aren't those the ones that were being restored after a museum was built before politicans got involved. I talked to the workers there they were pretty upset after putting in so much effort the money spent only to have it all ripped away
they all lieng they got scrapped
@@lisamyers-lucas74... lie lying liar.
Update, end of September, 2019: NEW WEBSITE: www.catskillmountainrailroad.com. NEW TRACKAGE: The CMRR is running on all available track, from MP3 at Kingston to the east, all the way west to MP 8:33, Route 28A at Stony Hollow. All track has been upgraded by mostly volunteer workers, and the derelict-looking cars are either off the property or have been restored! Unfortunately the 28A crossing was paved over by Ulster County, but CMRR is trying to get it reopened as the track is still on the ground further west to just before Basin Road (around MP10); it easily hosted inspection trains about 3 years ago. Unfortunately, the county has removed the rails west of there, but restoring an additional 1-to-1.5 miles of track would bring CMRR to Glenford Dike, a scenic point of interest on the Ashokan where the tourist ride could terminate. In the meanwhile, if you're reading this is 2019, some great fall foliage runs, pumpkin trains and the Polar Express are all scheduled for the rest of the year. Come on up to Kingston!
just to think those railcars were once state of the art
They are a unique link with the past and therefore must be saved. Not an easy job to restore but certainly possible
With those six wheel Commonwealth trucks, they rode better than today's Amfleet rolling stock. Seriously.
I can also confirm this!
they sure as hell do. I rode amfleet cars from Chicago to NYC to see the USS intrepid memorial. they sure aren't 'superliners.'
Terry Witkowski lol, I never rode in the Superliners
Thanks for the Video. An for the one's who updated in the comments.
Love he hand and whistle signals, my conductor and I use them all the time.
You call those hand signals? They're a joke.
I've seen those things a hundred times going to Kingston .
Awesome Video! First car across 209 looks like a Blue Comet car.
So those cars rusted that bad after only 15 years? wow!
Scot Caraway iiiiii
Judy Roberts what type of reply is that
Only?
Scot Caraway ikr
They were probably already old when they were left sitting. If they were in good shape, the RR probably would have moved them off the line to a yard.
Once, they were the most luxurious cars any railfan can enjoy. Now, they lay derelict.
Ashes to ashes.
Dust to dust.
Wood decays,
And metal rusts.
They once made many happy. Now they are looked upon in disgust.
I don’t look at them with disgust, I look at them with awe
Great video loud train to overall score: 89 Good job
I'm getting all emotional watching this.
Okay so there is a pneumatically ran whistle on the diesel. Lol haven't seen that in a while
The first car the engine hooked up too looks like it came from a nuclear holocaust
It honestly looked like it was going to fall apart
@@CaptainAwesome-mz6mt Yes, I am surprised it was still rolling. I guess they put some grease in the wheels just before.
@@keplergso8369 looked like the first one had been subject to fire damage, the second one wasn't that bad. Looked like a burnt out car does.
I thought you had to hook the hoses up first like a semi.
How did those cars get there
Hook up the brake glad hand
Unfortunate to say, but the best thing for that poor diner is an oily rag and a match!
I would love to see video and photos of it in service once it's been restored.
ebtmikado or you know, recycle all the metal and don't contaminate the environment even worse.
@@CANControlGRAFFITI You know, if they could do that to rusty metal electronics, cars and trucks.
I remember seeing them sitting on the rails like that for many years and one day they were gone
Crazy seeing this after all this time
Those cars ere built back when things were made to last. I'll bet those cars are over 100 years old
It is a shame these cars could not be rescued and restored 15 years ago.
Highlinerlocal66 Yeah... it almost makes me cry whenever I see an old train set rust away. Especially the beautiful 1st-gen diesels. :(
Highlinerlocal66
Dam I don’t ever remember having to do that with my train. Nowadays you just push the button and the fist opens. Guess real trains are different than toys?
Maybe the A-hole that set this car a fire has a few jollies left to enjoy seeing the departure of its damaged work that day. These days there seems to be too many are ready to destroy any part of valu history just because it may be placed into a remote idle state for days or years.
Is it me or does it sound like that diesel has an air steam whistle
It's a Hancock air whistle from a fl9.
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I hope they are restored, but it won't be too easy.
Look closely at the second passenger car it’s a New Jersey blue comet
the rear coach looks like it is in better shape. what did they do to the coaches when they moved them?
Alex Twist pushed them up about 1,000 feet up the track.video called first train to cross hurley mountain road! Then sod most of them to tourist railroads.
those cars look they are from a ghost train
On one side of our family we're descended from Lion Gardiner, and on the other side we had a mason who actually built the station at Hurley(ville), Middletown and others. Nice to see!
It’s sad to see them in that condition. I love seeing the trains and see there are people who actually care to try and bring them back to life. Those cars are a big part of our history.
Expected to see the loco move away and just tear the bogies clean out from under the coaches! They shoulda stopped and freed off the brakes they would have been rusted on! I worked on the railroads as a commissioning engineer for many years, nice to see them rolling again , but those stuck wheels with just get flats worn on them if they dont free the brakes off 😕
is there where 209 is very near 87? I remember there were a couple cars right next to 209 i think it was the kingston exit off 87
Nothing a can of WD-40 and some duct tape couldn't fix!
Well those cars are probably going to be scrapped
cop1122 they were all sold to other railroads for restoration. we kept the one on the left .
train 59 ok
I wish I could volunteer I’d love to help out and learn a few things
Why can't you? After a while you will get paid too!.
Hi! Very nice video and interesting carriages. Greetings from Italy. Ciao, Stefano :-)
What happened after these were removed? Were they restored, and where are they now?
Me and my family rode the train last year with the 0-4-0, enjoyed it very much. Every one needs to remember it takes money and muscle to make it happen.
I remember driving by them many times.
Great job guys, that railroad is coming alone nicely.
We're wheel journals lubricated before moving? Hate to see anything needlessly damaged.
Moved where? To be restored?
Thank you.
They were not scrapped. one we kept for restoration and the other ones were sold to other railroads..
AMAZING - great to see them roll again
Better " squirt" some oil on those wheel bearings.
that bad after 15 years? they must been already really worn down.. i seen cars sit for 30 that look better then that...
They are pre-WWII cars.
Did they oil or grease any wheel bearing before setting off?
No. Didn't bring them far. Maybe a half mile .
@@train5974 half a mile is enough to do damage.
Nice. I must have driven by them 100 times when I lived up in Grahamsville.
Were those coaches restored and used on the trains, or did CMRR never get a chance to restore them fully?
it should have been DCC DIRECT RAIL
I recognized the Lackawanna MU immediately. I rode those electrics countless times in the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s until they were taken out of service. Are these coaches going to be restored? They look very rough.
+g bridgman That diner's scrap, for sure, salvage the trucks and some other stuff. The rot's incredible, and there's a fair amount of collision damage.
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Glad you liked it! Thanks for the sub!
Back away, stop and 2 step please..... not a fan of the blind shove. bump it up and give me a tug, damn good martini couple though.... man I would hate to work the air up on these relics
Thumbs up !
O descaso com os trens de passageiros não e só no Brasil.
I woul love to help you restore them, and do crew too like I do here on the NCRy.
I wonder how many miles those old cars went, before being abandon..?
yeah that sounded like rust falling off, when they coupled the second car. I think not having those air brakes hooked up might have been a good idea as long as they were going slow. probably keeps those brakes from locking up because of the rust
Почему американские парни обнимаются, кричат "юху" и чуть ли не в дёсна целуются после того, как они сцепили два вагона и пошли за составом?
Наши мужики на ЖД это каждый день делают, но для них это ни разу не праздник.
*Train cars hook up to coaches* Yay!
*Coach coupling break* Nooooo
Well thats how I imagined that would happen, they looked like they would fall apart
does it have an air whistle?
NostalgiaKarl K.F. That whistle is from a new haven fl9
É top a nossa Ferrovia
I thought they would join the air hoses together for the brakes
Robert Chinnock didnt need brakes. only moved them about 300 feet. all uphill.
Putting air to that old system woulda made more problems, that old gal can handle it
@@jasonmatthew9194 not really. Just would of leaked out. That's why they didn't bother.
the wheels aren't turning though ! they are just being dragged!
Wheels were turning. I was there.
PLEASE TELL THEY HAVE NOT BEEN SCRAPPEED
coshyno No they were not scrapped. All but one were sold to other railroads for restoration. We kept one. It's in phoenicia. At railroad museum.
This should be done with the NY Central T3 and S motor in Albany
awesome! thx for sharing, new sub for life too :)
where are those cars now?
rez ones I personally painted on them with ewoke.
@@andrewdannunzio146 ur telling lies
@@chumgalaxyaltk3723 you are an ass hole
And Rez they still run! I lived right behind them,And have vids
will these carriages be restored?
We kept the one on the left. All the others were sold to other railroads.
Those coaches need new paint
Are they planning on restoring these once beautiful cars?
Yes
I'm more then amazed someone didn't steal the journal brasses from those cars sitting so long.
I hope that they were restored to
Those cars seem to be the former NJT MUs that were retired in 1984!
The second coach looks like a former MU, but not the first one - no six wheel trucks on motorized MU's.
glen rock railfan seems all the info in in the description..
Why no air connections? I have no clue so... I thought the brakes were locked with no air to them?
You need air pressure to apply brakes. System probably won't hold air. Seals beed replacing.
Cool
The website's extinct now
No
If you can go back in time. Can you imagine all those many faces looking out?
This got 666K views guys.
well.restore those cars,its American History,not?
EEUU you still love trains and you know it.
It's amazing that they can move, many things when severely oxidized, will not spin.
But that locomotive is strong so I really shouldn't be impressed.
what about the blue car further down the track @ 3:09
It was moved about 3 months later.
MU: Former electrics, control cars for electric trains or control cars for push-pull diesel services? :)
Electric MU's used alone, not in push-pull service.
Is that a diesel with a whistle?
Do try to save them, won't you?
All were sold except one. It is at phoenica.
The train of the forgotten cars.
So well the 2 passenger cars be saved?
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that is amazing and a testament to how well they're built
Good video......................
補修する金ないの？
Not exactly ready for revenue service. A little paint and then some, perhaps?
marvin watkins And then some for those wouldnbe and then a couple hundred thousand dollars, maybe million, new parts, and a full on refurbishment.
Bloody buck-eyes, hernias in old iron!
Cool
looks like total restorations
Lots of history in just this video, thanks for sharing
nice video