Sony A7R vs A7RV-- Has Image Quality ACTUALLY improved after 9 years?

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  • Опубліковано 17 гру 2024

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  • @villegas24
    @villegas24 11 місяців тому +47

    People need to realize that unless you are a full time professional, you only need to put your bucks into some fat glass instead of upgrading every generation.

  • @khosrowjalali7898
    @khosrowjalali7898 4 місяці тому +3

    I was one of the early adopters of Sony A7R in 2013 and still have the camera. I never saw the need to upgrade and am very happy with IQ. I appreciate the video and information you put out there.

  • @Benjamin_Jehne
    @Benjamin_Jehne 2 роки тому +100

    I think, the biggest overall jump was the A7RIII. As you said, the image quality is still on par with the newest cameras. For me personally, it's still one of the best Sony cameras to buy in 2022. In terms of ISO performance, it's better than the A1. Stacked sensors always come with some downsides.
    I still use the A7RI for my private landscape pictures and I still love, what this sensor is capable to produce. Also the JPGs have this really special look, that I still love.
    The A7RIV was a step back in ISO performance, so it was directly out. It also felt a kind of slow. This camera came just to early after the RIII. All the nice new tech came after the release of the RIV. It always felt like someone just wants to put a 61mpix sensor in a body, even if the rest of the camera can't hold up to it. The A7RV feels completly different. It's not just the nice Af system.
    What makes the A7RV special is also the new IBIS and the sRAW. These two things are the reason for me to upgrade from the RIII. I was able to handhold more than 1sec with a 50mm F1.2, thats such a huge jump for Sony. It's something the others said, it's not possible with the E-mount, but they proofed them wrong, again.

    • @jakeshootsstuff8187
      @jakeshootsstuff8187 2 роки тому +4

      I'm still on my a7iii, I don't think I'll ever sell it.

    • @mexmax1657
      @mexmax1657 2 роки тому +2

      @@jakeshootsstuff8187 Same here :) Got the a7r III and I will use it until it dies. And then probably try to repair it. The whole black color of the metal is already "scratched" away because of holding and wearing it on my body so much. :D

    • @wandererstraining
      @wandererstraining 2 роки тому +6

      Same. I got a used A7R. Then I got an A7RII. Then I got an A7RIII. Then I kept the a7RIII. In my experience, it has the best image quality of all Sony sensors when it comes to dynamic range and low light. None of the newer A7R, A9 series, or the A1, quite match the A7RIII's performance for DR and low light.
      With that said, image quality alone is not what made me upgrade from the A7RII. The bigger battery, faster operation and dual SD card did. Autofocus improvements didn't make me upgrade either, but they were nice to have.

    • @SuperDamny
      @SuperDamny 2 роки тому +2

      @@wandererstraining I thought a7rII and a7rIII had IDENTICAL sensors, why are you saying that "image quality alone... " implying that a7rIII is somehow better in image quality?!

    • @wandererstraining
      @wandererstraining 2 роки тому +2

      @@SuperDamny It is. They have the same sensor, but the electronics around it are different, and it gives the A7R3 a slight edge in signal to noise ratio. If you look at DPreview's studio comparison tool, you can see the difference at high ISO. Again, on its own, it's not worth the upgrade, but with the other upgrades that the A7R3 brought to the table, it was worth it for me.

  • @allantucker4327
    @allantucker4327 2 роки тому +54

    Just wanna acknowledge your time and hard work you put into making this video. We the viewers can sometimes take it for granted. Keep grinding Manny Ortiz!

    • @pzark3638
      @pzark3638 2 роки тому

      Seriously - the overall quality and density of information provided in just 12 minutes is fantastic.

  • @anthonytriana4209
    @anthonytriana4209 2 роки тому +8

    First, in an age where true unabashed opinions are getting rarer and rarer-thank you. I have been a Canon (all Iterations of 5D) and now Fujifilm shooter (X-Ts 2-4), seeing your analysis was very interesting. You commentary is honest without being harsh, but also somewhat hopeful. You clearly enjoy Sony A camera line! Your photographic work is very lovely. Your b-roll is also very attractive almost sexy. Your fluorescent tube lighting is just awesome! I want to shoot like Manny Ortiz when I grow up! Please keep up your great work. More importantly though, please take time to enjoy yourself, your awesome wife, and your family. May you have a blessed Christmas and a happy, healthy, and prosperous New Year!

  • @Life_x_Rory
    @Life_x_Rory 2 роки тому +18

    Very true. I just picked up an A7R2 in 2022 because it has everything I need for a fraction of the price of the newer models. There is a lot of new tech happening in the camera space, and a lot of it is great, but so much of it is just vanity specs to sell more cameras to people who already own cameras, just like the cell phone industry. Aside from bragging rights, most of it has no real world application for the majority of people buying them.

    • @seanrobertson3833
      @seanrobertson3833 2 роки тому +5

      I bought my A7R2 in 2020. Sure the auto focus could be quicker but honestly the camera is great. Nothing massively appealed to me from an upgrade prospective and I don't think there is anything close in price to performance. The only thing it's been missing is the swivel screen...that Ive really been looking forward to. But will spend almost 3 times what I bought my A7R2 for, nope. A7R2 for the win.

    • @digitalx3136
      @digitalx3136 2 роки тому +2

      I agree...my a7r2 is a BEAST...I use it all the time and never want to upgrade because it produces such beautiful photos...yea everything is faster these days but the r2 just gets the job done

    • @MakingTracks
      @MakingTracks Рік тому +3

      I totally agree with you. I have the A7Rii as well, for landscape photography I don’t see the point of upgrading 🤷‍♂️ sure it’s slow but the image quality is still 🤯…

    • @AllenFreemanMediaGuru
      @AllenFreemanMediaGuru Рік тому +1

      When I upgraded from the A7Rii to the A7Riii it was the faster buffering and faster focusing that won me over. It was so good I have not thought of upgrading since the A7Riii came out and I usually upgraded about every two years.

  • @claudecreativestudios4054
    @claudecreativestudios4054 2 роки тому +22

    I came from the A77/A99 to the A7R3 and hadn’t really put much thought in to how mirrorless evolved from the early days. Great analysis video bro 👏

    • @donaldstuckey9096
      @donaldstuckey9096 Рік тому +1

      Same here I shot with the a57 and then the a99 during the last few years of my ownership of the a99 I picked up the original a7.

  • @Camera64video
    @Camera64video 2 роки тому +8

    I am a Canon shooter and always have been. I agree that image quality intact has not changed much since the onset of digital which I know a lot of people don’t like hearing but it is true. I own a Canon R5 and have done some work with it but I still find myself using my 2009 1D MKiii with only ten megapixels on Wedding’s and Quinceanera’s still today. The R5 is so good that it makes me feel disconnected from the process of photography and it makes my day dull and unsatisfying because it takes away all my thinking, if that makes sense.

  • @RobDTom
    @RobDTom 2 роки тому +15

    This video is spot on. I am still shooting with a D800E and I am ready to finally make the move to mirrorless. I don't expect much improvement in image quality of my still photos. The reasons to upgrade is mostly because of video and autofocus ability.

    • @izoyt
      @izoyt 2 роки тому

      it's sony sensor in both, so..

    • @chrisvig123
      @chrisvig123 2 роки тому +2

      @@izoyt image quality really has not changed for a long time

    • @arturikbtb
      @arturikbtb 2 роки тому +1

      I switched from d800e to a7 classic and i happy. I used with Sigma 50 1.4 art and its af accuracy for static shot is better than d800e+nikon 50 1,8g.

    • @AllenFreemanMediaGuru
      @AllenFreemanMediaGuru Рік тому

      I you will benefit from seeing live the image as you change settings you will go mirrorless. That alone had me switching in 2016.

  • @Joizygyrl926
    @Joizygyrl926 2 роки тому +6

    Love this video! I currently rock with an a7rII...

  • @jamesssten
    @jamesssten Рік тому +4

    I have exactly the same opinion. I never cease to be amazed by the words of the ambassadors, who describe older versions as semi-professional or amateur, while three years ago they praised it as a great professional camera :-). I still have an A7r ii and iii foir my work. After trying the fourth generation, I didn't notice much of a shift and didn't feel the need to change. I'd rather save the money and get better glass

    • @dasIDS
      @dasIDS 7 місяців тому

      What would you suggest to enter full frame (on budget) for photography mostly, not video .. A7Rii or better go for Riii? Was also thinking about 7ii or 7iii (not R) series.

    • @jamesssten
      @jamesssten 7 місяців тому +1

      @@dasIDS a7rii is really good option, when you want also use crop mode or need really high resolution. You will need more batteries and shoot lowlight on high iso on crop mode. A7iii is for the beginers perfect and you can buy used for low price (probably best choice for you). a7ii is too AF slow..

    • @dasIDS
      @dasIDS 7 місяців тому +1

      @@jamesssten TY!

  • @kentao4
    @kentao4 2 роки тому +2

    Not a pro here but an enthusiast- I think the progress has been the tech around the camera progressing to the point where frequency of capturing a good image increases. I know when I started out, it was difficult to understand why my pictures were blurry etc and as I’ve progressed, I see how the current cameras “save” the picture if you know what I mean. Think low light, oss etc.

  • @ulrickteissier363
    @ulrickteissier363 2 роки тому +8

    Still got my a7R3, but the big improve for me with the newest cameras (i got the a74 to) is the AF. That's the first thing that make me upgrate my camera as wedding photographer. I also like the raw files sizes upgrade on A7R5 as it save a lot of space on storage. I agree with you that my A7R3 files are still good today, but i miss some af features. Anyway it still make the job for me...thanks for your great video.

    • @martinruiz398
      @martinruiz398 2 роки тому

      I second this, I have the a7iv and A7Riii as well. I prefer the a7iv for the real time tracking autofocus and faster processor, but the image quality coming out of the a7riii is still the king.

  • @andgainingspeed
    @andgainingspeed 2 роки тому +8

    I agree that glass>bodies so pick your body based on who has the glass you plan to get, or already have. Rather than just making BSI more common in all tiers of bodies, for me at least, a jump in low light performance is the thing that would make me think about a body update, even if the MP count dropped down to the original R's 36.

    • @RiceCubeTech
      @RiceCubeTech 2 роки тому +2

      I mean the regular a7IV has a 33mp sensor, so that’s always an option if you want higher MP than normal 24 mp cameras and better lowlight system tHan the 60mp A7RV.

    • @piotrgraniszewski8544
      @piotrgraniszewski8544 2 роки тому

      @Rebel Hikes: having jumped from A7M2 I am not bothered all that much by the articulating screen. It is certainly more useful when paired with a battery grip. Does it take slightly more effort to start using? Yes. But it also helps me take better pictures and stabilize the camera better. Luckily, it seems like we can have the best of both worlds now. I hope Sony will only use the hybrid hinge setup from now.

  • @jwestrik9308
    @jwestrik9308 2 роки тому +2

    Nice. I am still using the original A7R (with Minolta lenses and manual lenses) and the NEX7 APSC mainly for macro.

    • @apihtahe
      @apihtahe Рік тому

      Low light capibility between the two. Which one better.

  • @paulie3095
    @paulie3095 11 місяців тому

    *Had to pause the video to comment* manny this is an amazing video on your part ! So unique it makes me reminisce of the golden age of UA-cam , I’m so happy that you are making videos are that clearly filled with passion , thank you

  • @BuzzAdven
    @BuzzAdven 4 місяці тому

    At 4:34 in the time stamp I can see a difference in the sharpness on youtube. The picture on the right side is more soft than the picture on the left side. I can see it in the skin detail. Its almost like there is a very slight haze in the picture on the right side that makes it seem slightly more soft and flatter feeling

  • @cadmus777
    @cadmus777 2 роки тому +3

    I'm still shooting with the same sensor from the A7Rii and A7Riii, in the A99ii. I'm happy if the actual image quality doesn't get any better, as I think the quality it produces is outstanding. I haven't upgraded yet because of cost and ergonomics, as the A99ii still feels so much better than the mirrorless, although the A7Rv is not bad at all (I have pretty big hands). We are well past the point of image quality, it's now down to everything else that goes into the process to make shooting better and easier.

  • @hxuanpham
    @hxuanpham 2 роки тому +3

    Still rocking the a7r2 since I haven't seen a camera that's given a fundamental leap in quality to be worth upgrading since the 2. The handling and battery improvements in the newer cameras are nice, but not THOUSANDS of dollars nicer, especially since I don't regularly shoot weddings or videos anymore (I can always rent for the few times I do)

    • @pancakelens75
      @pancakelens75 2 роки тому

      Same here! I have found NO reason to upgrade from my A7RII. Paired with my 24mm GMaster, I’ve gotten some of the most stunning images

  • @grey.fox.
    @grey.fox. 2 роки тому +3

    I've had three of these cameras and the differences would be more obvious to you if ya shot outside the studio or beyond portraits. The way in which they became more multifaceted for multimedia purposes is quite obvious put him on a gimbal or shoulder rig or shooting fashion runway, festivals nightclubs etc.

    • @grey.fox.
      @grey.fox. Рік тому

      I now have the A7RV, guys and the difference is absolutely obvious if you're a video shooter or run n gum photog, shooting live events or doing journalism it is way more reliable than the A7IV

  • @badshoes
    @badshoes 2 роки тому +4

    Just glad to see you drive a MK 7!
    I get new camera envy often but when I delve into it, hard to replace my a9 as my do everything camera. Nothing blows it away yet in my opinion.

    • @Skipsul
      @Skipsul 2 роки тому +1

      Agreed. The A9 is a workhorse.

    • @badshoes
      @badshoes 2 роки тому

      @Rebel Hikeswasn't early but picked mine up used as an upgrade from A7 ii, that felt like a tue upgrade.

  • @DillyBobThornton
    @DillyBobThornton 2 роки тому +2

    This is a video that the world wanted but didn't know they needed. Thanks bro @MannyOrtiz!

  • @dirtysouthtiger
    @dirtysouthtiger Рік тому +4

    The A7RIII was years ahead of it's time. The sensor is still the highest rated of any Sony cameras for image quality and it's great in low light and even night photography. It lacks the bells and whistles of more recent models but it's a workhorse that is as solid as any other mirrorless cameras, much less Sony cameras.

  • @RokDAWG1
    @RokDAWG1 2 роки тому +1

    Manny if you saw some of my shots with my a7ii you'd be shocked! They're so amazing and fellow photographers are always blown away!
    I'm not going to lie, I wanna update but I'm not able to see the stuff to blow me away yet. Maybe this will be the year. I can only hope.

  • @aleksander8659
    @aleksander8659 Рік тому

    Damn, Manny. It's been a while since i stoped by your channel. Cant remember why it sliped but I promise to be better this year. And your vids are high quality and a great balance between inspiration and technichal focus. keep up the great work man

  • @street.sousvide
    @street.sousvide 4 місяці тому

    This is my second time watching this, haven't yet made my decision whether to get an older full frame or pay top.
    But there's so much good stuff here, thanks Manny

  • @getawaystherapy
    @getawaystherapy 2 роки тому

    The amount of work involved into making those videos is what i really appreciate. Cameras come and go and a faster camera does not always make a better photographer. Would love to see Sony cameras with Panasonic Lumix color science and better ergonomics. That would be a perfect camera. Thanks for this video!!

  • @JaapKroon
    @JaapKroon 2 роки тому +1

    I just came back from a trip to Bangladesh. Shot everything with a Fujifilm x-t20 and x100f (for a book and expo) and left my Sony A74 and A73 at home. My clients haven't noticed it at all ;-)

  • @lorerolore
    @lorerolore 2 роки тому +1

    i have an a6000, and it blows my mind how a so affordable and old camera can take amazing photos with a good lens

  • @addeystock
    @addeystock 2 роки тому +1

    Manny this is just a fresh take on the sony mirrorless... Loved it
    Looking forward to see more of these

  • @ghas4151
    @ghas4151 2 роки тому +1

    You can get stacked BSI at “mid-tier” pricing now - the Fujifilm X-H2S.

  • @stevehageman6785
    @stevehageman6785 8 місяців тому

    You did a really good job on the video, very professional. Thanks for the overview of the A7R series, that is just what I was interested in.

  • @darindipietro9141
    @darindipietro9141 Рік тому +2

    Picked up an A7Rii when it first came out. Been researching a replacement over the last two versions and just can’t justify it.
    Even for video it still does everything I need and looks great. Maybe I’m used to it’s short comings but the ROI just isn’t there for me.

  • @VentureFarOut
    @VentureFarOut 2 роки тому +1

    Really appreciate seeing a review of the Sony line of cameras that isn't just trying to shill the latest newest most expensive camera. I agree with a lot of other people that I feel like there was a significant upgrade between the II and the III though I can't 100% put my finger on it. It may simply be the color processing that improved. I just got the IV but haven't shot with it yet but honestly am not expecting too much. I totally agree that its a shame that smartphone quality screens aren't being put on the backs of these cameras. Ultimately, I've found the biggest improvement to my photography since starting with the Sony a7 has been getting better glass and using primes when possible

  • @samuelbeniuga9116
    @samuelbeniuga9116 Місяць тому

    I am still using an a7 III which is all i need for image quality and resolution. I was tempted to upgrade the body recently. I had a couple of lenses Tamron 28-75, 85 1.8. I've invested in a 35GM and realised that it was the better decision to make. Good glass makes a big difference in the quality of your photos. I'm going to be completely honest. The real reason i'd want to upgrade from this body is the LCD screen and the EVF. These are the two drawbacks for me which i still could live with, but would be nice to have something crisper and higher res. Oh yes, the new menu system looks fantastic. A7 III old menu, even after these years, it is still a pain to use. I can get it to do what i want but it's still asking so much of my attention when i need to adjust something in the menu. Before upgrading, I would suggest to ask yourself, what are the reasons you want to upgrade? Having the latest tech available will never be the end goal for sure. Companies will always make you feel that what you have is not enough making it seem that is a no brainer to upgrade.

  • @meat_loves_wasabi
    @meat_loves_wasabi 2 роки тому

    got the A7 & A7R2 when it launched… loved the 7R2 and used it for the next 7 yrs… finally upgraded to the 7R5

  • @patrickmckeag3215
    @patrickmckeag3215 2 роки тому +3

    Great video. I'm happy with the image quality from my A7II which has everything I need. I don't shoot videos, and I've decided to resist the temptation to upgrade, and instead to concentrate on improving my photography skills. Try to ignore the GAS folks.

    • @2stroke_fanatic357
      @2stroke_fanatic357 Рік тому

      Same for me. I don`t shoot video, so the A7II is great. I`ve considered upgrading to the A7III, because the lack of the joystick and the sometimes a little bit fiddly autofocus bother me, but its over three times the price of my A7II (payed 400€ for it).

    • @kucci8157
      @kucci8157 Рік тому

      I’m still shooting the A7Rii for my purposes it’s perfect only thing I wish I had was touch screen

  • @erichramone7812
    @erichramone7812 3 місяці тому

    Amazing video. This makes my case for buying an older camera 📷 much better

  • @bryanthomas007
    @bryanthomas007 2 роки тому +1

    Manny great lighting in your videos!!! The A7R3 is still my go to for photoshoots!!!

  • @MaverickChristian
    @MaverickChristian 2 роки тому

    The next big step will come eventually, but both two-layer transistor and SPAD (single photon avalanche detection) sensors are still years away for full frame cameras unfortunately.

  • @toasty-toast
    @toasty-toast 2 роки тому

    @Manny I would like to see out of camera JPEGS from these cameras vs. the iphone 14 pro and iphone 13 pro

  • @gregorykportraits
    @gregorykportraits 2 роки тому +1

    I finally upgraded to the a7iv from the a7iii and found that hard to justify based on my requirements which fall primarily into photography,. I couldn't justify the price of the a7rv nor do i need all those megapixels, or AI autofocus. Coming from the time when I had to manually move the focus point , I mean how much help do people really need autofocusing??? Great video, I've been watching and learning from you for a very long time, you are and continue to be an inspiration to us all. Thank you!

  • @gocrazy97
    @gocrazy97 Рік тому

    i till now have seen many reviews on a7r5 but, thus far this review is the best ever i have seen.
    gr8 review. luved it 😍 luv from india

  • @Bachelor_Gabe
    @Bachelor_Gabe 2 роки тому

    You're reviews are amazing for cameras. I'm going to turn to your channel when I buy my new photography camera in the future.

  • @airgunner2024
    @airgunner2024 2 роки тому +2

    With the OG A7R, you had to have spot-on shot discipline and technique to get the most out of that high-res sensor or use a tripod. Even then, that bone-crushing shutter could blur a photo if your shutter speeds were too low. I love how this new tech just doesn't get in the way of a great shot.

    • @NakeanWickliff
      @NakeanWickliff 2 роки тому

      This is such a good point. More DR is definitely welcome but how many megapixels does one need? The read speed needs to catch up before we can get more quality. The video is fantastic now but the rolling shutter due to slow readout speed can't keep up. I waited and upgraded from the RIII and the jump has been huge to simple things like not having the live view flash compensation bs on that just brightens the viewfinder when I have a flash attached. The focus has much improved and having a touch screen has been amazing to navigate menus. The EVF is amazing compared to the RIII and the screen as well. Even just things like format speed are waaay faster. I noticed the camera boots up a lot quicker as well. I haven't tried it but if you shoot tethered I think the USB port is quite a bit faster to get the files to the computer. Being able to shoot HEIF 10bit "JPEGs" to send to my phone on site and send to clients as I leave the location is a great little touch too. It seems like such stagnation when you don't skip any models but III to V is game changing for me. Not ready to sell my a7sIII's yet but starting to think about it a little more!

    • @patricksprojects
      @patricksprojects 2 роки тому

      I still shoot w the a7r. the argument that the maniac shutter slap that it has can effect the image while on a tripod is amusing. that little shutter isn’t going to jolt a tripod.. anyways, I still love my a7r, epecially w primes..(yes Ive seen the video of Tony making the image blurry from the shutter lol)

    • @airgunner2024
      @airgunner2024 2 роки тому

      @@patricksprojectsI fell in love with photography while using early Alpha mirrorless cameras, the A7R was my go-to for quite a while. The shutter slap DID affect critical sharpness and detail in many situations, especially at low shutter speeds. I did not say this happened while on a tripod. I said one should use a tripod to achieve the best results. What I find amusing is the "fanboy effect" which sometimes feels like a grumpy old fart misreading a post 😉

  • @upskalemedia
    @upskalemedia Рік тому

    Great Video I owe the 7R 3 since it came out and was looking at the 7R 5 didn't really see the need to upgrade 7R 4 when it first came out. Still looking at the 7R 5

  • @VynZography
    @VynZography Рік тому

    I had the A7r and the biggest issue and the reason i got rid of it was that terrible shutter shock that ruined any image taken between 1/60- 1/120 second

  • @mrcenturion5800
    @mrcenturion5800 2 роки тому

    Can you make another video of the Nikon Z9??? I know you did one already but it seems there's only 1-2 fans of Nikon out there and is not.
    I love Nikon and I am ant you to do a reaaally deep video for the Z9 please.

  • @miguelquezada1916
    @miguelquezada1916 2 роки тому

    Appreciate the deep take and insight as I have been deciding an a new camera. Appreciate you Manny

  • @DigoMontoya
    @DigoMontoya Рік тому

    This is a very useful video for me. More than useful. I have an Riii and an a9ii for photo and the A7siii for video. I am now making wedding videos and hope to make it a business. I'm considering selling the photo cameras and buying a RV so I can avoid buying a second video camera. But I love those cameras! Thanks for helping me with so many decisions.

  • @Skipsul
    @Skipsul 2 роки тому +35

    Great commentary. Love my A7r3. Another unsung hero of the lineup is the original A9 - still a seriously great all-around camera. It's fast, has wonderful image quality, no rolling shutter, and that great mid-sized grip of the 3rd gen Sony system. And since you rarely need the mechanical shutter on the A9, even well-used ones on ebay have low shutter counts, and years of life left in them. My A9 and A7R3 complement each other beautifully.

    • @M3mphislov3r
      @M3mphislov3r 2 роки тому

      Which would you pic for video: a9 or a7siii?

    • @Skipsul
      @Skipsul 2 роки тому

      @@M3mphislov3r I don't actually shoot a lot of video, so I can't say.

    • @Skipsul
      @Skipsul 2 роки тому +2

      @@M3mphislov3r I did a bit of checking to better answer your question, and I did confirm that while both cameras will shoot 4k/30fps, only the A9 will give you full frame, while the R3 has a significant crop (which bit me a couple of times). Like I said, I don't shoot much video, but I would think the A9 would be the better choice just based on that.

    • @josephpeppard561
      @josephpeppard561 2 роки тому +1

      Hi James, I have an a9 and a7R lll as well. I couldn't agree more with your thoughts and assessment. Still extraordinary cameras in 2022 that I use frequently.

    • @cdotwu
      @cdotwu 2 роки тому

      What do you mean by "you rarely need the mechanical shutter on the A9" ?

  • @THISISWILL23
    @THISISWILL23 2 роки тому +3

    A7r3 TEAM! 💪🏾💪🏾

  • @capture-life
    @capture-life Рік тому

    Thank you for your effort to make your tests clear to the public

  • @matthewtomich9766
    @matthewtomich9766 2 роки тому

    Currently thinking of picking up an A7r iii but hesitant due to its age. Hearing you say it's the sweet spot is encouraging!

  • @Miller96INC
    @Miller96INC 2 роки тому

    Wonderful video. Extremely well made and edited. And very informational. Thank you for the hard work

  • @DAVCOHGRAPH
    @DAVCOHGRAPH 2 роки тому +1

    thanks so much for all your efforts all those years. i am a professional photographer and you are the only photography content producer I regularly and consistently tune in for. 😀🙌🏽

  • @Mattrossphoto
    @Mattrossphoto 2 роки тому +1

    I shot with the a7rv this weekend and holy hell I was blown away with the autofocus. Huge improvement. I never pull the screen out so that means nothing to me.
    However the image quality is exactly the same as my a7riv, I saw no difference whatsoever. It is nice having every single shot nail focus though, that is an awesome improvement.
    I am really disappointed they stayed with the same sensor, why not make a jump in megapixels? Anyone that thinks megapixels don’t make a difference needs to watch Matt grangers hasselblad x2d vs Nikon video…the difference is comically huge.
    Thank you for not settling Sony couldve easily done better but they’re too busy listening to photographers that are afraid to slow down their workflow

    • @mikeleighton9891
      @mikeleighton9891 2 роки тому +1

      I used one at the weekend....autofocus and tracking especially for eye/face was vastly improved also the colours seemed better. This is a mainly stills camera in my eyes, im not interested in the frames a second or video or i would get the A1.

    • @Mattrossphoto
      @Mattrossphoto 2 роки тому

      @@mikeleighton9891 I always use manual white balance didn’t notice much of a difference. Are your talking about auto white balance or actual color in general? I didn’t notice any difference but I was in a total different environment than normal

  • @paulhills1967
    @paulhills1967 2 роки тому +1

    Terrific video. Thank you for all the time and effort that went into producing it.

  • @morsaPT
    @morsaPT Рік тому

    An awesome video, as always. Switched from Canon to Sony and I don't regret it! Thank you, Manny, for sharing all your knowlegde with us! Cheers from Portugal!

  • @stevenguzy570
    @stevenguzy570 Місяць тому

    Great video! Thanks so much I'm considering either the A7r or the RII. I only take stills. Did you run into auto focus issues in landscape type situations? Is the focus accurate in still situations such as in landscape or did you find your issues to be just arbitrary or maybe in continuous focus situations? What about the color science as comparing the two? Thanks again! You have a new subscriber!!

  • @mikldude9376
    @mikldude9376 2 роки тому +2

    Good video Manny, I always wondered about the basic image quality over the years.
    When you think about it , the sensors still work in much the same way, just later models sensirs have some extra functions added on.
    The main gripes for me on my trusty A73 have been pretty much the most common complaints with Sony mirrorless over the years i think.
    The less than user friendly menu system.
    The less than user friendly touch screen functionality .
    And as mentioned the quality of the rear screen and maybe even the brightness in sunlight was pretty average.
    The grip for me as I have large ish hands does feel a tad cramped between the lens and the grip , but not a deal breaker , as you adapt to these things.
    Good to see sony finally addressing some of these issues in recent models.
    As far as the body being almost unchanged for some years , that does have some good points , for example , a lot of accessories for the Sony A series have been interchangeable between models, so that is a good thing.
    I still love my old A7.

  • @Avatarbrayand
    @Avatarbrayand 2 роки тому +3

    Love this, definitely have to agree with the jumps between the R-R3 made upgrading feel worthwhile. Still have my R3 and love the balance it has and the video is good enough for general use. Love love love your analysis of this and glad you parted ways in the Sony artisans program but sad I wasn’t able to meet you when doing my sales training for Sony while you were in it.

  • @easternwind4435
    @easternwind4435 2 роки тому

    Got the 7R II this year as my first camera, love the eye af for portraits, hope to make this hobby into a side hustle soon.

  • @brianpatterson6934
    @brianpatterson6934 Рік тому

    Good commentary that I agree with, Manny. I sold my a1, made some coin and bought an a7r4a body - happy as can be! Keep up the good work...

  • @stevemckenzie4731
    @stevemckenzie4731 2 роки тому

    I'm still impressed by the quality of the files from my A7R. I bought into the system as soon as it was released in 2013 and also have the R4 and the R5. Converted my R1 to infrared. With the Sony-Zeiss 35mm f/2.8, the R1 fits in a coat pocket.

  • @Soundwave857
    @Soundwave857 2 роки тому

    You also need to compare the a7r vs a7IV. 36mp vs 33mp. The main reason why i would buy a new camera is not resolution but ease of use, handling and general feeling of the camera. had the a7III and bought the a7sIII for video but used it for photos for how it handled. now im selling the sIII for the a7rV because i sadly dont do much video but want to keep the new menu, high res evf and the new screen. 61mp is just a nice to have since i'm probably set it to 26mp most of the time

  • @pennycarlson1943
    @pennycarlson1943 7 місяців тому

    I stuck with the A7R II until the A7R V was introduced. I like to shoot birds and the bird eye focus is amazing. I get lots more keepers and can also nail birds in flight. Something I could never achieve with the A7R II. You used an A1, with a stacked sensor, for your noise comparison. I would be interested to compare noise levels on the older A7R models to the A7R V. I do feel that I get a noisier picture with the RV but now noise is a lot easier to remove. One think I don't really need is more frames per second. It already takes me too long to cull my photos. Great video!

  • @GolnatP
    @GolnatP 2 роки тому

    Beautiful Golf R!! Need a photo shoot with it!!

  • @robert-zech
    @robert-zech 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this video on the history of the Sony A7R line-up. I began my Sony journey with the A7R III after watching your live stream at the time. A friend of mine had the original Sony A7R while i was on the Canon 5D Mark III. Never had i thought, at the time, that i will be switching from the DSLR workhorse to a tiny mirrorless system. But it turned out to be a really joyful journey and lovely system - A7RIII, A7RIV, A7SIII, A7IV and now the A7RV have all been (some still are) lovely cameras i like to pick up and shoot with. Paired with some nice Sony glas i enjoy it thoroughly. Had a glance at the Canon EOS R and R5 in between but stuck with Sony in the end, happily. You mention some good point for future improvement i.e. speed (fps photo mode A7R line-up), LCD quality and maybe still some consistent and refinement of the menu system which is always a bit cumbersome to me.

  • @Toglander
    @Toglander 2 роки тому +132

    As a long time Sony shooter, I would say the one item most in need of an upgrade from Sony is the camera body itself. Why Sony is still stubbornly sticking to this ergonomically and durability inferior body blows my mind. I believe they could simply upgrade this one item, and drastically increase sales across their lineup. Imagine if Sony developed an entirely new body similar to Canon, Nikon, or even Hasselblad. I believe this is the main issue preventing Sony from completely taking over the market. This video proves how little Sony has innovated in this department since 2013.

    • @MannyOrtiz
      @MannyOrtiz  2 роки тому +14

      I agree. I hope they improve the body to make it more comfortable to hold

    • @Toglander
      @Toglander 2 роки тому +1

      @@MannyOrtiz - Exactly! I use the battery grip on my A1 simply because it is more comfortable to hold.

    • @swegmastur614
      @swegmastur614 2 роки тому +4

      I think they keep it that way because they think it looks more "simplistic" and "modern" than traditional hand grips, but I think I can speak for most shooters here that we care more about a more comfy tool for taking nice pictures than a nice looking camera body lol

    • @gilcarag274
      @gilcarag274 2 роки тому +3

      @@swegmastur614 it’s a matter of taste of course but IMHO Sony cameras do not look prettier than a canon or nikon body. Less traditional for sure but I prefer those ruberised bodies. And still I probably gonna get an a7r5. Tired being with the underdog. Fuji I meant 😁. We want same autofocus performance in video and still Fuji !!!!

    • @derekholife
      @derekholife 2 роки тому +34

      I personally love the body tbh

  • @mikedubz5576
    @mikedubz5576 Рік тому

    Wanted to say your videos looks great. Keep it up you got it.

  • @smalltalk.productions9977
    @smalltalk.productions9977 2 роки тому

    Still using and loving my A7R3. Thanks for the effort and the sharing. Thumbs up.

  • @ikoyDaPnoy
    @ikoyDaPnoy 2 роки тому +1

    As someone who jumped on since the Sony NEX-5N (then NEX-7, then a7), I've noticed the drastic innovations Sony has made in each body. Yet, I totally agree & have been saying for years that I want more dynamic range ... of course, I get trolled by Sony fanboys that the dynamic range is already too good. I beg to differ.
    Here's my question. Is the current 15 stops of dynamic range directly or inversely related/proportional to the megapixels? In other words, does more or less megapixels mean more dynamic range?

  • @scottbartlettphotography
    @scottbartlettphotography Рік тому

    Currently have a a7RIVa and need a second body for weddings . What would you recommend on a budget I have gm lenses (reason for budget ) 😢😂

  • @cchangg
    @cchangg Рік тому

    I jumped onto A7R from my NEX-3 on the release date. Still using it today.
    However, I will probably jump to A7iv instead of A7R#...... 36MP is sufficient and I now see AF the higher priority, right behind $$....

  • @vancouverbluesea
    @vancouverbluesea 2 роки тому

    I like the perspective to look at the hardware! Very informative video! It stands out of the crowd.

  • @TriSamples
    @TriSamples Рік тому

    Wow, honestly beautiful cinematography. Excellent shots and b roll. You deserve a much larger audience. My only wish was for more in depth video comparisons.

  • @vettepwr23
    @vettepwr23 Рік тому

    Hi Manny. Great video. Long time subscriber here. What is thoughts on buying either an A1 or A7RV? I can get a used A1 for around $4800. Thanks.

  • @vitalymaltsev4939
    @vitalymaltsev4939 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this review. Please don't let us wait too long for in-depth image quality and AF review.

  • @apstudios01
    @apstudios01 2 роки тому

    Nice comparison Manny. Happy Holidays to you and your lovely wife.

  • @ArnetPhotography
    @ArnetPhotography Рік тому

    I came to the Sony A7 RV from the Canon 5D MIV after having used it for 7 years. I've been very, very, very impressed with the image quality.

  • @twagn
    @twagn 2 роки тому +1

    Glass and technique are always the best way to improve image quality

  • @MORPHPICTURES-m7c
    @MORPHPICTURES-m7c Рік тому

    Bro your quality on this is 🔥🔥🔥💯

  •  2 роки тому +1

    That's a nice eye-opening video

  • @StarKepler
    @StarKepler 2 роки тому

    I bought A7R3 a few months ago and I am very happy. Excellent camera at a good price. In addition, it is still under warranty

  • @stefanbecker9526
    @stefanbecker9526 2 роки тому

    The raw support of the A7rV is already there: Imaging Edge "Edit", Affinity Photo 2, Luminar Neo, Capture One 23. I also got my Adobe Camera Raw with A7rV support today.

  • @FlosBlog
    @FlosBlog 2 роки тому

    Hey, dont tell me that. I am shooting Foma 400 on an ae-1 and print them on a regular inkjet printer :D

  • @artmaltman
    @artmaltman 7 місяців тому

    Hi Manny. Why 61mp? Is it only for cropping or is there a different aesthetic look vs 33mp. I find this so baffling. Thank you.

  • @Rainy78
    @Rainy78 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for sharing your insight Manny. I've always loved your content. Im still rockin the A7ii haha! Im looking to upgrade, and in between the A7RV or the upcoming A7V. Im thinking the A7RV will be superior in every way, regardless. Maybe I shouldnt wait? What are your thoughts? Thanks! 👍🏻

  • @AllenFreemanMediaGuru
    @AllenFreemanMediaGuru 2 роки тому

    I started with the A7Rii. Amazing. Then got the A7Riii. Totally happy. I got a A7 converted to infrared and was surprised how great that camera was.

  • @marratillo1234
    @marratillo1234 2 роки тому

    This was a really good watch, thank you!

  • @ramanaa88
    @ramanaa88 2 роки тому

    Hey Manny, been a long time subscriber and I have been tuning in and out of your videos over the years.
    Something seems off about this video vs when the earlier you.
    Are you still happy bro? You seem a little burned out and not having fun.

  • @EinKnilch
    @EinKnilch 2 роки тому

    Im still using my A7, no backup camera, not by choice.
    Low light is my biggest problem to be honest, otherwise it creates images, personal problem I have is that the mount is somehow very lose, my mounted lenses are able to shift like a millimeter or 2 and its definitely not sealed for dust if youve got a heavy lens on

  • @darkktint5974
    @darkktint5974 Рік тому

    What's up my friend. Just got a Sony A7iv and the main reason is the 3rd party lenses are more affordable. The body to me is to small for my hands so I got a smallrig cage to make it perfect. Canon and Nikon have been in this game for a while and in the future Sony needs to step up there game. And I feel that the right canon camera could have you switching your main camera of choice. If I had the money I would have rather had the canon but body and 20-70 lens to start would have cost me over 5000 dollars since they only have the RF mount available.

  • @RÅNÇIÐ
    @RÅNÇIР2 роки тому +4

    Can't wait to be able to afford this camera in another 9 years.

    • @AjwaB23
      @AjwaB23 3 місяці тому

      😅

    • @dronephotogeek
      @dronephotogeek Місяць тому

      😂😂😂😂 me too buddy but at least I have my crop and some primes and can shoot just fine right next to the big boys all day long. Skill matters not dollars

  • @500abarth7
    @500abarth7 2 роки тому

    I've been following you on UA-cam since your canon days in 2017. Then you made the switch to Sony and made me get the a7rii which I still have. Would you ever go APSC for video as the FX30 seems to be very capable doing what full frame cameras can and also being very consumer friendly?

  • @Mpactpics
    @Mpactpics Рік тому

    Very interesting video. Obviously our minds think similarly. I was looking for an answer to this very question. Thanks for sharing your insights and evaluations.

  • @Sam1986E
    @Sam1986E 2 роки тому

    This is why i am keeping my Canon R5 and only adding lenses from now on. I have the RF 24-70 and RF 100mm macro, next lens will be the RF 70-200 and whatever wide angle zoom they come out with (Canon needs a RF 11-24 f2 lens!)

  • @zsoltsantaphotography9637
    @zsoltsantaphotography9637 2 роки тому

    well anything that makes my sessions easier, and to focus more on the creative side rather than the technical, I welcome all those improvement in camera bodies ...😉

  • @ThreeCeeProductions
    @ThreeCeeProductions 2 роки тому +1

    Image quality is very good now. People are switching for numbers and features they don’t even use. The autofocus system was a reason to buy but now Canon and Sony have excellent AF. If you are’t getting good images today it might be the photographer.