Always fun to watch your races, I sit on the edge of my seat for the "ooo" and the "aaaah" factors along with the instant hand over eyes to not see what I've just seen lol. Third to last hurts (read my story below though). It was interesting to watch at the 6:03 point in the race when you mentioned the race leader coming up on you and all of a sudden it looked like you ran your fastest lap at that point, hitting the insides on almost all of the corners for the lap ... betting that was probably your 16.6s lap as you pulled away from the leader while doing it, and were passing others pretty much perfectly! Nice lap that one! Oh, incidentally, I get stressed when I have someone pushing me along, but I find that it does improve my lap times by 0.2s to 0.3s lol. On to my own story now (apologize for the length, but thought you might grab your coffee and enjoy a short read). Yesterday we ran our 2nd club race of the season and guess who forgot to put his GoPro on for his 2 mains? UGH!!! They were probably my best 2 races of the year racing with my son coming close to the top racers in the club in the same race! Anyway, my son and I both run 13.5T 4wd buggies, and 17.5T 2wd buggies (those are the classes of choice at our club for the most part). My sons favorite is the 4wd (RC10B74.2) for its speed, and his 2wd (RC10B7) for its handling, but drove amazing in his RC10T6.4 Stadium Truck lapping the field in each of the qualifiers, sometimes twice, getting the TQ in Stadium Truck! Then, in the Truck main ... crashes on the 2nd lap to go from 1st to last LOL. I was watching live results on liverc.com (which is what we use for our races here) rather than watching the race (makes me nervous) and saw it on there in the results ... 1st to 8th. Next lap 6th, then 5th, then 3rd, then he was right on 2nd and passed him (which coincidentally is his "benchmark" competitor to beat as he won the season for Stadium last year), then a few laps later 1st for the rest of the race. So, 1st to last to 1st in 10 laps (see, you can do it too Bren LOL), a full second a lap faster on his top 10 laps than 2nd place (ok, marginally bigger gap than your 0.2s fastest lap comparison), and on par with the buggies. In his 4wd quals he came in after 2 (of 3) quals complaining about how slow the other buggies are out there ("why are they so slooooow?") as he rear ended them a dozen times in both quals coming up on them too fast (LOL ... I think I was one of them). 3 of the 8 in that class were quick, the other 5 were not (I was the fastest of the slowest finishing a good 3 or 4 laps behind the 3 fast guys to give you a perspective lol). Anyway, he figured it out in the 3rd qual and ranked 2nd for the Main ... unfortunately the 3rd place car (a friend of ours) was as quick as him and made my son nervous between 2 tabletops during the main, my son lost control for a split second and brake checked to get control and got rear ended by the other racer who squawked on the stand "why did you brake check me????" He apologized after the race, it wasn't intentional, and finished 3rd behind him anyway. He told me on the drive home he was trying to get out of his way at the time, and each time our friend was behind him he would try to pull wide to let him go through (like it was a qualifier). I was like "No, hold him off, but don't brake check him lol. That's what the mains are all about!" He didn't want to upset our friend by holding him up though, so let him through (which is what we typically did as a rule of thumb before he suddenly figured out how to drive lol). Our friend said he's going to take him out next race during practice and run behind him for some laps to get him used to competition trying to pass him and hold them off! I did that when we were both in Novice, but there's no way I can keep up to him now to apply any pressure ROFL, I can't even drive in front of him to hold him off, he'll instantly find a hole in my line and get through, which he was doing by the 3rd qual and the main to me anyway. Racers are a family, and we're all learning. My son has only found the pace of the faster racers less than a dozen races ago (and was my level of speed prior to that, suddenly it all "clicked" - probably due to also trying On Road carpet at the time), so he's not used to dealing with fast guys on his backside that he can also easily keep up to now (following can be easier than blocking as you can run tighter than the car your pursuing typically, and they give you a target to focus o for your line - until you're brake checked lol). Lastly, I bought a used B7 which he tried out and absolutely LOVES! He qualified and finished 2nd in 17.5T buggy against one of our fastest racers around here: we had a big race here a few weeks ago and both my son and I presented terribly at it (C main for 4wd, and B main for him in 2wd), I out qualified him in 4wd for the mains! The winner of the 2wd class (both mod and 17.5) was the racer we had this weekend, and my son kept up to him and was even in front of him numerous times during the weekend, finishing seconds behind him in the main! He may have made a podium finish if he had the B7 and drove like that during the big event! If you read this far, thanks for reading, had to get it off my chest as I don't have any footage to share (DOH!) Thanks for sharing Bren, always a pleasure to watch your races (I'm an off road racer, but also like to watch the on road and your "mini" races) Fhuz oot!
Wow just finished reading (analysing) the rest mate.... Few questions what's the switch that has suddenly transformed your lads pace in comparison to the previous few months? If you can pin point something specific that is.... Obviously you guys run 2wd... 4 wd and stadium trucks (truggies?) do you think it's a good idea to run the separate classes on the same event as track time is track time or do you find it to be a problem to keep switching as the characteristics of the platforms as so different it trips you up on the day??? Santa is due to bring me a (nearly new) B7 so after Christmas I'm hoping to make some much better progress.... Thabks for watching mate and I enjoy the comments regardless of the length... Have a Top week pal.
@@BrensRCracing so, what do I think made the difference for Patch? I honestly think it was indoor on road that did it. When we first started racing in Novice we (ahem) didn't use our brakes. Don't laugh, small steps right? When we started On Road I had him practice using the brakes to go into a corner tight, load up the front end, and dart out the other side (not optimum, but I used it as a teaching mechanism at the time). Once he figured out how the brakes worked, he started trying to get in tighter in Off Road ... then he tried timing his landings on jumps, especially if there's a corner immediately after, and just got better from that point on. Me? Well, I'm a different beast as I still have difficulty doing all that as my hand motor skills are (shall we say) lacking. As for multiple classes, for my opinion track time is track time. For carpet our 4wd doesn't handle a lot different than the 2wd, but the 4wd has more power and speed so can get out of corners quicker. If we only had one class we'd be sitting around for 2 hours between races with 11 to 13 (or more) qualifiers per round due to so many classes the club runs in a club race. Now Stadium is a different story. It took my son a bit to be able to go back and forth between that one and the buggies, as the tires are wider so he was clipping the pipes on corners early on .. and that caused him to dislike the class compared to the other 2. Now, though, he's gotten used to flipping between all 3 classes in a single day, and was getting about the same number of laps in all 3 races (about 27 laps in 5 min last race day). Our club has the bad habit of putting your car on the track and immediately turning practice laps, so he gets in 3 or 4 laps before they line up for the run, and that helps him get the feel for which ever vehicle he's running in the race .. he'll sometimes clip a few corners wrong in the warm up laps which gets that out of his system early on. On Road we were running just one class, and my son hasn't run in over a year because of that. Now I have 2 (older) XRAYs for him, and 2 (newer) XPRESS for me. The XRAYs handle a lot better than the cheeper XPRESS cars, you can really feel the difference and it shows in the times. When Associated comes out with the new on roads I'll be getting a couple for him and upgrade myself to the 2018 XRAYs (from the 2024 XQ2S). Thanks again for your time, always interesting to chat, and love your channel as you have a similar driving style to my own. Fhuz oot
Lol good not just me and Lewis Hamilton that's fluffing starts at the moment 😭😂 Yeah agreed chasing is way better... Thanks for watching and commenting mate helps a lot 👍👍
@@custard164 yeah getting there buddy interested to see how much more front end grip I'll have after switching to the aluminium front part instead of the brass one.... #SNAFU round ever corner waiting to pounce buddy🤣... I'd know the name of these parts with santa-claus present as its got an instruction manual 😂
Sharpie, what a legend!
@@chaosfruitbat5970 absolutely.....
Always fun to watch your races, I sit on the edge of my seat for the "ooo" and the "aaaah" factors along with the instant hand over eyes to not see what I've just seen lol. Third to last hurts (read my story below though). It was interesting to watch at the 6:03 point in the race when you mentioned the race leader coming up on you and all of a sudden it looked like you ran your fastest lap at that point, hitting the insides on almost all of the corners for the lap ... betting that was probably your 16.6s lap as you pulled away from the leader while doing it, and were passing others pretty much perfectly! Nice lap that one! Oh, incidentally, I get stressed when I have someone pushing me along, but I find that it does improve my lap times by 0.2s to 0.3s lol.
On to my own story now (apologize for the length, but thought you might grab your coffee and enjoy a short read). Yesterday we ran our 2nd club race of the season and guess who forgot to put his GoPro on for his 2 mains? UGH!!! They were probably my best 2 races of the year racing with my son coming close to the top racers in the club in the same race! Anyway, my son and I both run 13.5T 4wd buggies, and 17.5T 2wd buggies (those are the classes of choice at our club for the most part). My sons favorite is the 4wd (RC10B74.2) for its speed, and his 2wd (RC10B7) for its handling, but drove amazing in his RC10T6.4 Stadium Truck lapping the field in each of the qualifiers, sometimes twice, getting the TQ in Stadium Truck! Then, in the Truck main ... crashes on the 2nd lap to go from 1st to last LOL. I was watching live results on liverc.com (which is what we use for our races here) rather than watching the race (makes me nervous) and saw it on there in the results ... 1st to 8th. Next lap 6th, then 5th, then 3rd, then he was right on 2nd and passed him (which coincidentally is his "benchmark" competitor to beat as he won the season for Stadium last year), then a few laps later 1st for the rest of the race. So, 1st to last to 1st in 10 laps (see, you can do it too Bren LOL), a full second a lap faster on his top 10 laps than 2nd place (ok, marginally bigger gap than your 0.2s fastest lap comparison), and on par with the buggies. In his 4wd quals he came in after 2 (of 3) quals complaining about how slow the other buggies are out there ("why are they so slooooow?") as he rear ended them a dozen times in both quals coming up on them too fast (LOL ... I think I was one of them). 3 of the 8 in that class were quick, the other 5 were not (I was the fastest of the slowest finishing a good 3 or 4 laps behind the 3 fast guys to give you a perspective lol). Anyway, he figured it out in the 3rd qual and ranked 2nd for the Main ... unfortunately the 3rd place car (a friend of ours) was as quick as him and made my son nervous between 2 tabletops during the main, my son lost control for a split second and brake checked to get control and got rear ended by the other racer who squawked on the stand "why did you brake check me????" He apologized after the race, it wasn't intentional, and finished 3rd behind him anyway. He told me on the drive home he was trying to get out of his way at the time, and each time our friend was behind him he would try to pull wide to let him go through (like it was a qualifier). I was like "No, hold him off, but don't brake check him lol. That's what the mains are all about!" He didn't want to upset our friend by holding him up though, so let him through (which is what we typically did as a rule of thumb before he suddenly figured out how to drive lol). Our friend said he's going to take him out next race during practice and run behind him for some laps to get him used to competition trying to pass him and hold them off! I did that when we were both in Novice, but there's no way I can keep up to him now to apply any pressure ROFL, I can't even drive in front of him to hold him off, he'll instantly find a hole in my line and get through, which he was doing by the 3rd qual and the main to me anyway. Racers are a family, and we're all learning. My son has only found the pace of the faster racers less than a dozen races ago (and was my level of speed prior to that, suddenly it all "clicked" - probably due to also trying On Road carpet at the time), so he's not used to dealing with fast guys on his backside that he can also easily keep up to now (following can be easier than blocking as you can run tighter than the car your pursuing typically, and they give you a target to focus o for your line - until you're brake checked lol). Lastly, I bought a used B7 which he tried out and absolutely LOVES! He qualified and finished 2nd in 17.5T buggy against one of our fastest racers around here: we had a big race here a few weeks ago and both my son and I presented terribly at it (C main for 4wd, and B main for him in 2wd), I out qualified him in 4wd for the mains! The winner of the 2wd class (both mod and 17.5) was the racer we had this weekend, and my son kept up to him and was even in front of him numerous times during the weekend, finishing seconds behind him in the main! He may have made a podium finish if he had the B7 and drove like that during the big event! If you read this far, thanks for reading, had to get it off my chest as I don't have any footage to share (DOH!)
Thanks for sharing Bren, always a pleasure to watch your races (I'm an off road racer, but also like to watch the on road and your "mini" races)
Fhuz oot!
Ha definitely quicker when I'm chasing although definitely guilty of letting my head drop a it if the are gapping me straight away 😉
Wow just finished reading (analysing) the rest mate.... Few questions what's the switch that has suddenly transformed your lads pace in comparison to the previous few months? If you can pin point something specific that is....
Obviously you guys run 2wd... 4 wd and stadium trucks (truggies?) do you think it's a good idea to run the separate classes on the same event as track time is track time or do you find it to be a problem to keep switching as the characteristics of the platforms as so different it trips you up on the day???
Santa is due to bring me a (nearly new) B7 so after Christmas I'm hoping to make some much better progress....
Thabks for watching mate and I enjoy the comments regardless of the length...
Have a Top week pal.
@@BrensRCracing so, what do I think made the difference for Patch? I honestly think it was indoor on road that did it. When we first started racing in Novice we (ahem) didn't use our brakes. Don't laugh, small steps right? When we started On Road I had him practice using the brakes to go into a corner tight, load up the front end, and dart out the other side (not optimum, but I used it as a teaching mechanism at the time). Once he figured out how the brakes worked, he started trying to get in tighter in Off Road ... then he tried timing his landings on jumps, especially if there's a corner immediately after, and just got better from that point on. Me? Well, I'm a different beast as I still have difficulty doing all that as my hand motor skills are (shall we say) lacking.
As for multiple classes, for my opinion track time is track time. For carpet our 4wd doesn't handle a lot different than the 2wd, but the 4wd has more power and speed so can get out of corners quicker. If we only had one class we'd be sitting around for 2 hours between races with 11 to 13 (or more) qualifiers per round due to so many classes the club runs in a club race.
Now Stadium is a different story. It took my son a bit to be able to go back and forth between that one and the buggies, as the tires are wider so he was clipping the pipes on corners early on .. and that caused him to dislike the class compared to the other 2. Now, though, he's gotten used to flipping between all 3 classes in a single day, and was getting about the same number of laps in all 3 races (about 27 laps in 5 min last race day). Our club has the bad habit of putting your car on the track and immediately turning practice laps, so he gets in 3 or 4 laps before they line up for the run, and that helps him get the feel for which ever vehicle he's running in the race .. he'll sometimes clip a few corners wrong in the warm up laps which gets that out of his system early on.
On Road we were running just one class, and my son hasn't run in over a year because of that. Now I have 2 (older) XRAYs for him, and 2 (newer) XPRESS for me. The XRAYs handle a lot better than the cheeper XPRESS cars, you can really feel the difference and it shows in the times. When Associated comes out with the new on roads I'll be getting a couple for him and upgrade myself to the 2018 XRAYs (from the 2024 XQ2S).
Thanks again for your time, always interesting to chat, and love your channel as you have a similar driving style to my own.
Fhuz oot
Great video pal. Im at my best driving when im just on my own on the track having a pratice with no race pressure haha
Cheers Hixxy👍.... You surprised me mate thought it would have been If @RC.89 was chasing you 😂
Defo faster when it have someone to chase. Particularly when you know you have beaten them in the past😂 that start is typical for me as well 😅
Lol good not just me and Lewis Hamilton that's fluffing starts at the moment 😭😂
Yeah agreed chasing is way better... Thanks for watching and commenting mate helps a lot 👍👍
Definitely looked good and you did drive well, just like us all the snafu appears ,we will get you faster go #teamsnafu ,top plate and ballstud mount
@@custard164 yeah getting there buddy interested to see how much more front end grip I'll have after switching to the aluminium front part instead of the brass one....
#SNAFU round ever corner waiting to pounce buddy🤣...
I'd know the name of these parts with santa-claus present as its got an instruction manual 😂
@BrensRCracing the lingo will come my young Jedi
Always faster when I'm being chased but that's just me ..
Ahh that explains alot then x