"Pinnochio explains all the fish ate off his donkey skin". So I guess Pinnochio wasn't really "turned into" a donkey in the original version, but was instead wearing some kind of donkey meat suit? That's . . . rather horrific.
Technically the art did depict him with donkey ears. No suit. The Italian live action did this by giving him wooden donkey ears as possible reference to this.
I mean, the entire story is an allegory, it goes pretty hard on kids who lie, cheat, steal or just consume things they really shouldn't... even as a kid I viewed "turned into a donkey" thing as an metaphor for children who ended up on the bottom of society, either by the way they were brought up (i.e. having no parents, or families with criminal history, or just poverty), or by choice (working class or even middle class kids getting into substance abuse and hanging out with a "wrong crowd"), no?
It's fairy tale logic. It doesn't really register as much because it's more recent, but Pinocchio is very much cut from the same cloth as something like Sleeping Beauty.
MatPat already did a theory covering whether selling the boys as donkeys was financially feasible in order to keep Pleasure Island operating and as it turns out, selling donkeys back then was shockingly lucrative, so yes, actually, this is possible, or at least it was back then.
Honestly, as far as Goodtimes goes, this is one of the ones with some actually clever nods to the original story. Still absolutely shows its cheapness, etc, but there's more to it than a lot of their adaptations/cash-ins.
The Three Black Rabbits of Death are Italian folk characters that are meant to represent the mysterious nature of death. As in death is something which occurs naturally all around us/something everyone alive is familiar with but that we’ll never be able to fully understand it because while still alive. That’s why they’re usually shown as human sized and bipedal. The idea is that the true nature of death itself is both familiar and obscure to us. This is also why “large rabbit’s killing people” is something that shows up a lot in medieval drawings
7:27 In relation of Jiminy Cricket, I actually really like how the Del Toro version of Pinocchio actually works around Jiminy's purpose of being his conscious to an extent. His own home in the tree happened to be chopped down by Gepetto into making PInocchio, so in a way he's tied to it all and serves a purpose into how they eventually interact.
You can tell Phelous is dedicated to his craft because he snuck into the desert where Disney buried every copy of the Gepetto DVDs just to watch it for us.
Disney should do the same with their live action remake. Along with every other live action remake that isn't The Jungle Book or Cinderella, especially the ones that came after 2018!
What I kept hearing every time Drew Carey kept saying “Blue Fairy” was Clefairy. I was then imagining one popping up and then using Metronome to shoot out a giant laser to blast Drew away as punishment for constantly calling for it.
In an alternate timeline, where clefairy was chosen as the mascot of the pokemon francise, everyone heard a rumour about a secret pokemon called blufairy.
Old Man: "Ooo. I have created a real live boy." Wabuu: "You idiot! Why did you turn me into a walking puppet?" Old Man: "I just wanted someone less wooden than Beauty."
@AT Productions that’s just the way of the modern meme. It comes out on stage, does its gag, and leaves. Also why when you see some studio trying to cash in on it, people groan since it’s out of date.
You're now thinking me of that Ruby-Spears Mega Man episode called Mega-Pinocchio, which coincidentally also has a doctor that is named Gepetto, though shortned to being just Dr. Petto.
Fun fact: in the original record version of the Scrooge McDuck version, which was made before they animated it, the ghost of Christmas future wasn't Pete the cat. It was the evil queen from Snow White in her old lady disguise. It'd be pretty cool to hear the scene with that voice.
I always treated cartoon characters as "actors", like Baloo from Mowgli was also in TaleSpin, and since it was obvious Robin Hood reused animation cels, I assumed Little John was just played by the same bear just in... brownface. xD
In the 1940 Disney film, did you know that the cat, Gideon was originally going to be voiced by legendary voice actor of Warner Bros. Cartoons fame Mel Blanc, but the only recordings Mel provided that survived were hiccups, as Gideon was rewritten to be mute.
From what I hear, the one time his voice can actually be heard in a classic Disney film is as one of the singers in the "Pink Elephants" song, specifically the one with the exaggeratedly high-pitched voice.
I think that's closer to the original, since the Dogfish just sleeps with its mouth open and has to be above water, so it conveniently leaves a gap where people can just leave
@@mr.machine3328 It's apparently due to suffering from, of all things, asthma, so it has to sleep like that. The name in Italian doesn't even mean dogfish usually, but shark. That'd be a whole other weirdness in Pinocchio, given sharks can't stop swimming or they die, iirc
I know he's just done animal noise in plenty of things but I just figured if Golden Films actually had him for this they'd have gotten some actual voices too.
This video does a pretty good job of reinforcing just how GREAT the stop-motion Guillermo del Toro version of Pinocchio is, despite not even mentioning it once.
I find it visually beautiful, but kinda basic. Guillermo's strongsuit is that he tells classic stories without a hint of irony prevalent in modern cinema, but the downside of it is that most of the characters in Pinocchio are pretty cliche.
@@HiperPivociarz That's the trouble with adapting a 140 year old story, especially one that was intended for children, basic is its foundation. But you have to admit, they certainly took a mature outlook on these cliched elements, never once talked down to it's audience, and certainly wasn't afraid to depress the hell out of them. Sometimes being really good at what you are is as satisfying as being original.
@@TheMusicMan1012 The characters and story beats I'm talking about weren't even in the original story. And this level of darkness and maturity is normalized in most children's media these days. People give it props for having the balls to include alcoholism, Mussolini and talking about death, but none of these elements are explored with any more depth than any other children story that dresses this stuff up in layers allegory.
As someone who hasn't read the story or even seen the Disney version, it's fun to learn about all the differences between the various versions of Pinocchio.
@@0deadx21 in any story there has to be some form of plot that includes tension 😅 Also repeating this at neuseum is quite annoying please stop. Thank you
@@gracekim1998 Yeah, but in the case of Del Toro's movie, the rules felt arbitrary. Shouldn't Pinocchio be alive all time as long as his body is in good enough condition? Geppetto nearly dying made sense since he's a human, but how can a puppet lose consciousness?
7:42 - One of the many things I liked about the del Toro version was flipping that detail since the cricket was the one whose home was taken to become Pinocchio's body. I suppose Geppetto planted the tree in the first place, but at least the cricket didn’t know a tree out of town “belonged” to anyone else.
Honestly, me too. But yeah, growing up, this GoodTimes movie got nothing compared to Disney one (of course the original animated one, not the one with horse crap)
hahaha me too! I loved we got way more of the fairy in this film, but i had a little crush on disney human Pinocchio so in my young child's mind, both were head to head in quality 😂
I swear, almost every voice Cam Clarke provides in these Goodtimes films all have the faintest tint of 87' Leonardo in them when you listen close enough. It's like the uncanny valley of voice acting where they sound like different voices but you can barely here 87' Leonardo poking through.
That's how voice acting works; a person can only alter their voice so much and they only have so much range, especially if you're familiar with their work. Listen to any character voiced by Tom Kenny for example. Unless he does something radically different, like Eduardo from Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends, you will inevitably hear hints of SpongeBob in whatever other character he's voicing. And to be honest, I think Cam really did show off his range in these Goodtimes films; I didn't really realize that it was him voicing the Wolf and the Cat and had to listen very carefully to notice it.
The way I’ve always imagined Pinocchio smashing the cricket goes like this: “Now Pinocchio, you must be a good boy and do as I say!” “Ah SHUT UP!” *Pinocchio smashes the cricket repeatedly with a hammer*
If there's one positive about Disney's live action remakes it's that it's made a lot of people go back to the originals and appreciate them all over again. Even some of the weaker ones were still way better than the new soulless shit. And if there's one great thing about Goodtimes, it's that it leads to us all having a good time with these Phelous reviews. It'll be a sad day when you run out of those to review.
At least we can be reassured that Disney is very unlikely to remake the more obscure/less mainstream films. Remaking something like The Rescuers or The Emperor's New Groove would destroy me.
22:09 Actually, the Steve Barron adaptation, The Adventures of Pinocchio, did follow up on the Candlewick story (or Lampwick as he was renamed in that version). At the end of the movie, he and the other boys are shown to have turned back into boys offscreen. With Jimini Cricket (named Pepe in this version) narrating off handedly that all the other boys also turned back into boys. It was a very "Oh and by the way, this happened" type of moment.
Love the DBZ scene when Garfield said: "too bad it's Monday. I'd be... Actually, I wouldn't be more interested in destroying this building tomorrow. All I want is lasagna." Or the scene in Pokémon when he called a few rice balls "lasagna." Or the scene in Food wars, when he (... Insert lasagna joke, to be honest, I've never seen food wars). But I think we can all agree with the thesis: Garfield is one of the greatest anime characters of all time.
I remember Saban Pinocchio Series which at some point included vampire episode and a storyline of Gepetto being charged for witchcraft and sent to Skull Island. Anyway, they also changed Fox and Cat into Fox and Weasel for some reason.
Great review, Phelous! You know, it never ceases to amaze me just how DARK the original stories of Disney films really go. Sure, their films are dark at times, but the original stories go to depths you couldn't even fathom as a child. Also, Gepetto and Pinocchio got all wet when they went in the ocean. You know what THAT means!
Screw Del Toro's Pinocchio, Phelous's Goodtimes Pinocchio review was the Pinocchio feature I have been waiting for and deserves the Oscar (Best Supporting Actor to Oldman!)
Gepetto in the Disney adaptation (not the remake) has same kind of goofy energy as Old Man. I mean the dude needs like 45 coo-coo clocks and a pocket watch to know what time it is and he forces his cat to open windows for him. So yeah Gepetto is the Disney version of Old man!
which is worse: having someone model, texture and render a pile of dung or actually filming an actual, real life, fresh out of a horse's ass, pile of shit? I honestly can't decide
It's weird to think that the Goodtimes and Dingo Pictures versions of these classic stories are often more true to the source material than the more well-known Disney stuff.
It's not weird at all. Disney deviating from the original, and in a lot of cases improving and/or updating certain aspects, required thought, effort and creativity, while GoodTimes just copies and pastes the original text and only removes and/or tweaks the elements that don't complement a G rating XD
Soon as I saw the thumbnail and the fact that Gepetto was pretty much Dr. Wily, except he uses wood instead of metal, I was anticipating some pretty fun stuff. At least I got a helluva dose of Cam Clarke. Wow, the original version of the story coming out weekly, a la the Dragonball manga a century later, is something I never knew. Always grateful to have you diving into the backstory of these tales, and this made me realize this is somehow the first Pinocchio you've ever covered. I could've sworn you'd touched every fairy tale by now! ^^' You make a great point about Pinocchio just sliding into school however many weeks into the season despite being a puppet born only a few days ago. That's just setting up to fail on so many levels.
I love that you mention all the original tale's dark moments. I still hope we get an adaptation that stays more faithful and shows those. Not even Del Toro's did it. Btw, ever read Buratino? It is basically the russian version of Pinocchio, with so many changes it becomes a whole new story. That one has animated versions too. Some translated to english as well!
Phelous, I would give real money to see you review Pinocchio and The Emperor of the Night. My brother loved that movie as a kid for some reason, and it’s shockingly bizarre.
I vividly remember owning this movie on VHS as a toddler. In all actuality, I quite liked this one. I actually watched it so many times, the tape broke. I occasionally still hum the theme song. Yet, this video makes the best of it.
I'm surprised you left out the part where (Goodtimes) Pinocchio finds the Fox and the Cat riding in a prison stagecoach and interacts with them for the last time. Fox: "Why we have done nothing wrong, they've picked up the wrong fellows!" Prison Coachman: "Oi! Now how's a nice hard-working boy such as yourself know a couple of bums like these?" Pinocchio: "Do you want me to tell him the truth?" Fox: "Oh yes, Pinocchio, tell the truth!" Cat: "Aww yeah, the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!" Pinocchio: "These two stole my money." Prison Coachman: "That's what I figured!"
Seeing the cricket first be introduced on the hearth and call himself the "cricket of the house" who keeps things in order has convinced me that this is an ancestor of Cricket Crockett. After hearing about all the shit his great great grandcricket had to put up with, Crockett decided empathy was overrated and turned to a life of evil and luck-stealing. Good job, Pinocchio.
We should expect nothing LESS than a DEMON from a block of wood brought to life by a fairy;) I love that this one's animation looks like the second season of the Problem Child cartoon and Pinocchio totally reminds me of Bobby from Bobby's World:):) The regular AND anthropomorphic animals reminds me of the Tom and Jerry Willy Wonka crossover--"Wait, that dog was on a leash! If dogs can hold down jobs, own homes, and get arrested, why do they still need to be on leashes?!" The Pleasure Island sequence in 'Geppetto' was pretty awesome thanks to Usher as The Ringmaster--he had a great catchy song:):) That's one of the live-action adaptations that MUST be covered along with the ton of 80s fairy tale ones once all of the cartoons have been exhausted;)
I liked the Disney movie as a kid so I read the book and thought it was awesome, especially the part where the cricket got murdered since the kid me imagined it being the Disney one.
1:59 Natural born Influencer Pinocchio Paul sniffing poop saying: “Poo he said. I smell poo! Yes. START TELLING!” Also “Way way up, where the planets to the mockup.” “Spinning shot, till you find yourself on GoodTimes.” “Let’s take off, we are ready to roll.” “It’s fun to land with the GoodTimes Patrol.” I had to add the Zula Patrol theme because growing up watching the show and one of the first shows to expose me to Cam Clarke’s performance, and after knowing he was in a handful of GoodTimes movies, I just have to write it’s theme with GoodTimes in it.
I can't believe how much stuff I watched as a kid that has Cam Clark voicing someone. In BRB's Around the World with Willy Fog, Cam Clark does an insultingly bad French accent to Passepartout (named Rigadon in the cartoon).
BTW, we didn't HAVE Pinocchio here in Ukraine until 90s, as entire USSR had their own copyright free remake, Buratino, where he ALWAYS had the long nose, with the donkey business, carnival, "do not lie" part kinda getting lost with the cricket... Still had Gepetto, Fox and Cat being con artists etc., if you run out of cheap Western knock-offs, you always have the entire Pandora's box of unauthorized Eastern remakes, I am too young to see that stuff new, so it was hilarious seeing Soviet versions of Aladdin or Treasure Island AFTER reading the source material (the latter has good animation but live action parts are another story).
Alright, a new Phelan and the movies Goodtimes review! I’ve got to tell you, I’ve watching your channel for a few years now and your DTV reviews are always a relaxing comfort for me after a very long day.
1:45 _What the hell_ is up with modern Disney remakes focusing on _realistic poop_ in their movies? First, the 2019 _Lion King_ and now this. Imagine being an animator whose job is to render this or creator studying animation and storytelling and honing their craft _for years_ trying desperately to get their foot in the door and then they see _this,_ made by people who were _paid thousands_ of dollars for _animating shit_ by a _multi-million dollar, multimedia_ industry that may have “created” their childhood.
I love how this Geppetto is straight-up Dr. Wily from the Ruby-Spears Mega Man cartoon. "Ah, Pinocchio. You vill be my Wood Man 2.0, und I vill equip you with weapons strong enough to finally beat that Meyga Mann!"
Hlarious review, you never disappoint Phelan. Truth be told, Me and my wife were moving about a few months ago and it was a very rough and exhausting period of time and the process was absolutely grooling, I'd be late at night moving stuff out of that shit apartment to the house so me needing some audio just had a series of your videos playing and when this one came on I hadn't seen it before and it helped me get through that rough period. Then I went back and saw the video itself in a more relaxed setting in the new home and laughed my ass off. So maybe that's weird but either way, Thanks Phelous for the videos and entertainment
I never thought i would say that the goodtime version isn't worse than other versions because they're are just so many different Pinocchio movies out there. 🤣
1:15-1:43 In Disney's defense, a lot of the stuff they got away with back in the 1940s-1950s wouldn't really fly today unless they wanted their movies to get rated PG-13 or higher. The MPAA's standards have gotten a lot stricter since the turn of the millennium.
"Pinnochio explains all the fish ate off his donkey skin".
So I guess Pinnochio wasn't really "turned into" a donkey in the original version, but was instead wearing some kind of donkey meat suit? That's . . . rather horrific.
Maybe all the kids were just covered with a donkey "suit", so they can be smuggled more easily... Thats a dark twist to the story.
Technically the art did depict him with donkey ears. No suit. The Italian live action did this by giving him wooden donkey ears as possible reference to this.
The entire book is kind of horrific.
I mean, the entire story is an allegory, it goes pretty hard on kids who lie, cheat, steal or just consume things they really shouldn't... even as a kid I viewed "turned into a donkey" thing as an metaphor for children who ended up on the bottom of society, either by the way they were brought up (i.e. having no parents, or families with criminal history, or just poverty), or by choice (working class or even middle class kids getting into substance abuse and hanging out with a "wrong crowd"), no?
It's fairy tale logic. It doesn't really register as much because it's more recent, but Pinocchio is very much cut from the same cloth as something like Sleeping Beauty.
MatPat already did a theory covering whether selling the boys as donkeys was financially feasible in order to keep Pleasure Island operating and as it turns out, selling donkeys back then was shockingly lucrative, so yes, actually, this is possible, or at least it was back then.
Rare MatPat theory w
When Flight of the valkyries started playing, I thought that Pinocchio was about to execute the Romanovs.
"If you can't trust a crowd of Cam Clarks, who can you trust?"
True words of wisdom.
Cam Clarke Donkey Crowd: "We're tired of living like this - if you can call it living."
If Geppetto cried a tear into the carving, Pinocchio would've been born with a happiness. I consider that bullet dodged.
I consider it more of a nuke.
What happens when you cry tears of sadness? Makes that works with a sadness?
What if it's just a reaction from having an onion getting recently chopped
@@ToaAxiomManin this case, your masterpiece needs a breath mint
@@andreasnickmann370 I imagine just like some events of the book would be slightly the same but everyone would be put off by Pinocchio's bad breath
"Pinocchio is a soulless monster with no conscience."
That sums up the story perfectly.
to be fair iirc the og story was meant to be a cautionary tale about what would happen to bad little boys who misbehaved
As soon as my eyes fell on this comment, he said it. The video’s in my brain.
Honestly, as far as Goodtimes goes, this is one of the ones with some actually clever nods to the original story. Still absolutely shows its cheapness, etc, but there's more to it than a lot of their adaptations/cash-ins.
Definitely, I got giddy with every reference
'Drew Carrey!'
I love how on Whose Line Is It Anyway the cast NEVER let host Drew Carrey forget about the flop that was Geppetto.
"Merry Christmas Tommy! Look! It's Geppeto on DVD!"
I think even _Drew_ made fun of that movie.
The Three Black Rabbits of Death are Italian folk characters that are meant to represent the mysterious nature of death.
As in death is something which occurs naturally all around us/something everyone alive is familiar with but that we’ll never be able to fully understand it because while still alive.
That’s why they’re usually shown as human sized and bipedal. The idea is that the true nature of death itself is both familiar and obscure to us.
This is also why “large rabbit’s killing people” is something that shows up a lot in medieval drawings
"Run away!"
@@theangryholmesian4556they're not just models!
Maybe Pinocchio watched The Cricket on the Hearth.
🤣EH 🥳
@Phelous i grew up on the spanish dub of these
They went international
@ATProductions96 Yep, we got good old Cam as the Nostalgia Cricket.
CRIIIICKET ON THE *HEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR* (audio peaks, speakers explode)
18:26 I love that Blue Fairy basically told Pinocchio, "Maybe the day had a shitty YOU."
Maybe she should’ve dropped Pinecone off to Del Toro’s that weekend instead
A savage round of victim blaming lmao
Yep
It honestly would be warranted in the book, but nearly every damn adaptation refuses to stick with Sadistic Pineboy
7:27 In relation of Jiminy Cricket, I actually really like how the Del Toro version of Pinocchio actually works around Jiminy's purpose of being his conscious to an extent. His own home in the tree happened to be chopped down by Gepetto into making PInocchio, so in a way he's tied to it all and serves a purpose into how they eventually interact.
That's how it was in Saban's The Adventures of Pinocchio as well.
He had the high ground too
@@ThePreciseClimber aka Mokku of the Oak tree.
@@SlapstickGenius23 That was the series that paired the fox with a weasel instead of the cat... But I think the Italian dub still called him a cat?
You can tell Phelous is dedicated to his craft because he snuck into the desert where Disney buried every copy of the Gepetto DVDs just to watch it for us.
Disney should do the same with their live action remake. Along with every other live action remake that isn't The Jungle Book or Cinderella, especially the ones that came after 2018!
I like to imagine that Drew Carey guards the big mound of DVDs, like Red Skull with the Soul Stone.
I liked the _Lady And The Tramp_ remake.
What I kept hearing every time Drew Carey kept saying “Blue Fairy” was Clefairy. I was then imagining one popping up and then using Metronome to shoot out a giant laser to blast Drew away as punishment for constantly calling for it.
In an alternate timeline, where clefairy was chosen as the mascot of the pokemon francise, everyone heard a rumour about a secret pokemon called blufairy.
Haha, I kept hearing Clefairy too!
May I ask which adaption that guy yelling ‘blue fairy’ is from? Because I just assumed it must be Disney 😂
That reminds me of when both Pokemon and Smash Brothers were new and we kept mishearing Clefairy's name as "Good Fairy."
@@gracekim1998 the drew Carey geppeto movie
Old Man: "Ooo. I have created a real live boy."
Wabuu: "You idiot! Why did you turn me into a walking puppet?"
Old Man: "I just wanted someone less wooden than Beauty."
(Mortal Kombat Konquest guitar riff plays...)
(Awkward gasp)
''THAT'S IT''
😂
I read that in Phelous’ version of their voices.
It’s only a hunch but I get the slight feeling that Phelous doesn’t really like Disney’s live-action Pinocchio. Lol
It was a poop sniffin good time.
Perfect 👍🤣
It's subtle, if you catch the hints.
yeah thats everyone
Honestly I haven't seen it, but seen how they animated Pinocchio convinced me that it's supposed to be a horror movie.
Tom Hanks calling out for Pinocchio and Drew Carey shouting for the Blue Fairy make me laugh every single time.
Pinocchio: "Phelous, when can I be on my own?! I have the whole world to see."
Worldussy 💅✨
@AT Productions that’s just the way of the modern meme. It comes out on stage, does its gag, and leaves. Also why when you see some studio trying to cash in on it, people groan since it’s out of date.
SKADEE SKADEE SKADEE
Mamma Mia! A wooden boy!
@@alicebthegachaweirdo8378 bang
It's interesting that this Geppetto looks a lot like Dr. Wily. Perhaps this means Pinocchio is a Mega Man character.
Well Pinocchio *is* a man made artificial life form
Holy shit, I was thinking the same thing.
You're now thinking me of that Ruby-Spears Mega Man episode called Mega-Pinocchio, which coincidentally also has a doctor that is named Gepetto, though shortned to being just Dr. Petto.
@@collaterale1 that cartoon is a fever dream but I love it. And yeah, he actually kind of sounds like him too.
PINOCCHIO: THE GREATEST MEGAMAN CHARACTER!
Disney using Pinnochio's Cricket as the Ghost of Christmas Past in Mickey's Christmas Carol was a masterstroke of storytelling.
Fun fact: in the original record version of the Scrooge McDuck version, which was made before they animated it, the ghost of Christmas future wasn't Pete the cat. It was the evil queen from Snow White in her old lady disguise. It'd be pretty cool to hear the scene with that voice.
I always treated cartoon characters as "actors", like Baloo from Mowgli was also in TaleSpin, and since it was obvious Robin Hood reused animation cels, I assumed Little John was just played by the same bear just in... brownface. xD
In the 1940 Disney film, did you know that the cat, Gideon was originally going to be voiced by legendary voice actor of Warner Bros. Cartoons fame Mel Blanc, but the only recordings Mel provided that survived were hiccups, as Gideon was rewritten to be mute.
From what I hear, the one time his voice can actually be heard in a classic Disney film is as one of the singers in the "Pink Elephants" song, specifically the one with the exaggeratedly high-pitched voice.
@@daliborjovanovic510 Really?
he was also in who framed roger rabbit, voicing the looney tunes characters.
i love that they don't even use the "start a fire inside the whale so it coughs them up" plot point, the solution is just "we'll swim out"
Especially since those pointless lobsters have a lit candle that isn't lit the next time we see them for some reason.
I think that's closer to the original, since the Dogfish just sleeps with its mouth open and has to be above water, so it conveniently leaves a gap where people can just leave
@@ToHoldNothing The fact that it has to sleep with its head above water is ironic when you remember it's a *fish*.
@@mr.machine3328 It's apparently due to suffering from, of all things, asthma, so it has to sleep like that. The name in Italian doesn't even mean dogfish usually, but shark. That'd be a whole other weirdness in Pinocchio, given sharks can't stop swimming or they die, iirc
@@ToHoldNothing Well, a dogfish is a type of shark. And a shark is still a fish.
13:46 Guillermo De Toro's take on the blue fairy where instead she's a deer-like ghost creature
Frank Welker's role in the old D&D cartoon was making unicorn noises. That's it.
Even in a lot of Disney projects he mostly only did the animal voices.
I know he's just done animal noise in plenty of things but I just figured if Golden Films actually had him for this they'd have gotten some actual voices too.
@@phelous Maybe they couldn't afford to pay him for words, only a few sounds here and there.
The 2nd half of Pinocchio the Book is probably of the first instances of Shitposting recorded. "Oh they want more of this stroy, eh whatever."
This video does a pretty good job of reinforcing just how GREAT the stop-motion Guillermo del Toro version of Pinocchio is, despite not even mentioning it once.
Well he technically referenced it once 😂
@@gracekim1998 wait what...where? I missed it.
I find it visually beautiful, but kinda basic.
Guillermo's strongsuit is that he tells classic stories without a hint of irony prevalent in modern cinema, but the downside of it is that most of the characters in Pinocchio are pretty cliche.
@@HiperPivociarz That's the trouble with adapting a 140 year old story, especially one that was intended for children, basic is its foundation. But you have to admit, they certainly took a mature outlook on these cliched elements, never once talked down to it's audience, and certainly wasn't afraid to depress the hell out of them. Sometimes being really good at what you are is as satisfying as being original.
@@TheMusicMan1012 The characters and story beats I'm talking about weren't even in the original story.
And this level of darkness and maturity is normalized in most children's media these days.
People give it props for having the balls to include alcoholism, Mussolini and talking about death, but none of these elements are explored with any more depth than any other children story that dresses this stuff up in layers allegory.
As someone who hasn't read the story or even seen the Disney version, it's fun to learn about all the differences between the various versions of Pinocchio.
The og story is a trip and the 1940s animated one is actually my favorite Disney movie! lol
I was really surprised to learn that the rabbits were from the book after watching the del Toro version.
14:37 I am surprised that Del Toro kept these guys in his adaptation as well their job to carry Pinocchio's coffin
I find the idea of a puppet temporarily dying to be rather stupid. Feels like artificially created drama.
@@0deadx21 sir, its a movie about a sentient fucking puppet.
Since typically these guys would pop up in usually mostly faithful adaptations from Italy the animated 1972 one, 2012, Benigni and Garrone for example
@@0deadx21 in any story there has to be some form of plot that includes tension 😅
Also repeating this at neuseum is quite annoying please stop. Thank you
@@gracekim1998 Yeah, but in the case of Del Toro's movie, the rules felt arbitrary. Shouldn't Pinocchio be alive all time as long as his body is in good enough condition? Geppetto nearly dying made sense since he's a human, but how can a puppet lose consciousness?
7:42 - One of the many things I liked about the del Toro version was flipping that detail since the cricket was the one whose home was taken to become Pinocchio's body. I suppose Geppetto planted the tree in the first place, but at least the cricket didn’t know a tree out of town “belonged” to anyone else.
Cam Clarke really likes his Homer Simpson impression.
"Weren't you gonna say Woo Hoo?"
"The thought had crossed my mind..."
The way they designed Geppetto almost looks like a friendly version of Dr. Wily from Mega Man.
We must find doctah gepettah
It all makes sense! We were watching his origin story all along...
I'd imagine this was to coincide with the 1992 re-release of Disney's Pinocchio which I actually remember watching in theaters.
I actually had this on video tape as child. It was actually the version I loved as a child, but only cuz I hadn't seen the Disney one at that age.
Honestly, me too. But yeah, growing up, this GoodTimes movie got nothing compared to Disney one (of course the original animated one, not the one with horse crap)
hahaha me too! I loved we got way more of the fairy in this film, but i had a little crush on disney human Pinocchio so in my young child's mind, both were head to head in quality 😂
Between this and the Disney live action remake I'm really starting to appreciate the Guillermo Del Toro version more and more
I'm always up for some Goodtimes with Phelous
Me too. With a warm cup of coffee.
I swear, almost every voice Cam Clarke provides in these Goodtimes films all have the faintest tint of 87' Leonardo in them when you listen close enough. It's like the uncanny valley of voice acting where they sound like different voices but you can barely here 87' Leonardo poking through.
That's how voice acting works; a person can only alter their voice so much and they only have so much range, especially if you're familiar with their work. Listen to any character voiced by Tom Kenny for example. Unless he does something radically different, like Eduardo from Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends, you will inevitably hear hints of SpongeBob in whatever other character he's voicing. And to be honest, I think Cam really did show off his range in these Goodtimes films; I didn't really realize that it was him voicing the Wolf and the Cat and had to listen very carefully to notice it.
Good times: the curse of the CAM CLARKES😂
When we foid dat meteah, we’ll find
*DOCTAH WAHWEE*
The way I’ve always imagined Pinocchio smashing the cricket goes like this:
“Now Pinocchio, you must be a good boy and do as I say!”
“Ah SHUT UP!”
*Pinocchio smashes the cricket repeatedly with a hammer*
I imagine it's similar to the end of There Will Be Blood.
although if that was cricket crocket, then it would be very understandable.
If there's one positive about Disney's live action remakes it's that it's made a lot of people go back to the originals and appreciate them all over again. Even some of the weaker ones were still way better than the new soulless shit. And if there's one great thing about Goodtimes, it's that it leads to us all having a good time with these Phelous reviews. It'll be a sad day when you run out of those to review.
There's a lot of bootleg Disney ripoffs. He won't run out for a while yet.
At least we can be reassured that Disney is very unlikely to remake the more obscure/less mainstream films. Remaking something like The Rescuers or The Emperor's New Groove would destroy me.
@@1Thunderfire I'd argue the Black Cauldron could do with a remake though.
@@Falcovsleon21 is the Black Cauldron based on a series of Mabinogion inspired novels?
@@SlapstickGenius23 it’s based on books yes
22:09
Actually, the Steve Barron adaptation, The Adventures of Pinocchio, did follow up on the Candlewick story (or Lampwick as he was renamed in that version). At the end of the movie, he and the other boys are shown to have turned back into boys offscreen. With Jimini Cricket (named Pepe in this version) narrating off handedly that all the other boys also turned back into boys. It was a very "Oh and by the way, this happened" type of moment.
And then they were saved by...oh, let's say Moe.
@@sillygrl23 No. The Steve Barron adaptation was a love action movie. From 1996.
@@michaelamaya9032 Oh gotcha, I guess I was thinking of another version then.
He'd also escaped with Pinocchio in that version, owing to Toyland not being on an island in it, but doesn't do much afterward because he's a donkey.
Loving that shirt!
Love that part of the show where Garfield is told to get in the giant robot but he says “cmon, it’s a Monday!”
Great minds think alike😊
but he got into the robot so he wouldn't have to see stupid oddie in action.
Love the DBZ scene when Garfield said: "too bad it's Monday. I'd be... Actually, I wouldn't be more interested in destroying this building tomorrow. All I want is lasagna."
Or the scene in Pokémon when he called a few rice balls "lasagna."
Or the scene in Food wars, when he (... Insert lasagna joke, to be honest, I've never seen food wars).
But I think we can all agree with the thesis: Garfield is one of the greatest anime characters of all time.
I remember Saban Pinocchio Series which at some point included vampire episode and a storyline of Gepetto being charged for witchcraft and sent to Skull Island. Anyway, they also changed Fox and Cat into Fox and Weasel for some reason.
@@TheMightyJRW it certainly had an art style of 70s anime.
East West Dad: Pinocchio found POO! *hehehe* POO! *chuckles some more* and he STARTED SMELLING!
Lmao
There are so many Pinocchio adaptations that could show up on this channel.
@AT Productions and I’ve seen that one 😂
I would love for Phelous to review Pinocchio and the Emperor of the Night someday.
Great review, Phelous! You know, it never ceases to amaze me just how DARK the original stories of Disney films really go. Sure, their films are dark at times, but the original stories go to depths you couldn't even fathom as a child. Also, Gepetto and Pinocchio got all wet when they went in the ocean. You know what THAT means!
It means… I was expected!
Heeeeeeeeeeee
Goodtimes may not be the version children love but it’s certainly the version Phelous fans love
out of the various looks for geppetto that have existed in the various adaptations i did not expect one of these to have Dr Wily's Italian cousin
That's what I thought. Goodtimes really did just retrace Dr. Wily.
When we found that meteah,
Well fouind *DOCTAH WAHWEE*
Wait so the undertaker rabbits from the Del Toro version weren't just a figment of his twisted imagination but an element from the original story?
Always nice seeing someone outside from Italy knowing the original tale so well.
Jiminy Cricket: "You're an irredeemable monster!" Pinocchio: "Oh, oh, what took you so long idiot?!" 6:49
Eh 😂 I got that reference
“What’s impressive?! I’ve a boy the whole time!”
Screw Del Toro's Pinocchio, Phelous's Goodtimes Pinocchio review was the Pinocchio feature I have been waiting for and deserves the Oscar (Best Supporting Actor to Oldman!)
❤
the Blue Fairy definitely has a gallows sense of humour
Gepetto in the Disney adaptation (not the remake) has same kind of goofy energy as Old Man. I mean the dude needs like 45 coo-coo clocks and a pocket watch to know what time it is and he forces his cat to open windows for him. So yeah Gepetto is the Disney version of Old man!
Oh 10000%😂
I thought it was Maurice
I can't believe that poop sniffing scene exists 😂
which is worse: having someone model, texture and render a pile of dung or actually filming an actual, real life, fresh out of a horse's ass, pile of shit? I honestly can't decide
Well, the Judge Gorilla part was meant to be a satire about the Italian justice system (which unfortunately is still relevant today)
"Poo!" he said. "I smell poo! Yes!"
It's weird to think that the Goodtimes and Dingo Pictures versions of these classic stories are often more true to the source material than the more well-known Disney stuff.
It's not weird at all. Disney deviating from the original, and in a lot of cases improving and/or updating certain aspects, required thought, effort and creativity, while GoodTimes just copies and pastes the original text and only removes and/or tweaks the elements that don't complement a G rating XD
Remember the opening when all of Geppetto's clocks were referencing all the other popular Goodtimes films?
I get real nostalgic seein' you tackle one of Goodtimes Movies gin, to warm my heart and soul!
Geppetto in this looks more like Dr. Wily, so does this mean Pinocchio is a Robot Master instead of a puppet?
And aren’t all robots technically robots since they still need humans to give them orders and for them to become active?
Realboyman.
Pinocchio could be both, a robot master and a puppet
Woodman's cousin.
Forget zero.
Pinocchio is wily’s greatest creation
10:52 aww, why you have to bring up Drew Carey as geppetto?
I'd just nicely forgotten about it.
Soon as I saw the thumbnail and the fact that Gepetto was pretty much Dr. Wily, except he uses wood instead of metal, I was anticipating some pretty fun stuff. At least I got a helluva dose of Cam Clarke.
Wow, the original version of the story coming out weekly, a la the Dragonball manga a century later, is something I never knew. Always grateful to have you diving into the backstory of these tales, and this made me realize this is somehow the first Pinocchio you've ever covered. I could've sworn you'd touched every fairy tale by now! ^^'
You make a great point about Pinocchio just sliding into school however many weeks into the season despite being a puppet born only a few days ago. That's just setting up to fail on so many levels.
Pinocchio: "Literally my whole existence is pain."
Blue Fairy: "Whose fault is that?"
I love that you mention all the original tale's dark moments. I still hope we get an adaptation that stays more faithful and shows those. Not even Del Toro's did it.
Btw, ever read Buratino? It is basically the russian version of Pinocchio, with so many changes it becomes a whole new story. That one has animated versions too. Some translated to english as well!
Del toros adaptation was still pretty good and better than the 2022 live action
There was a live-action adaptation from Italy in 2020, but it cut the scene with the green fisherman.
I immediately thought Dr. Wily the moment I saw their Gepetto. 3 seconds, that has to be a new record for me.
Phelous, I would give real money to see you review Pinocchio and The Emperor of the Night. My brother loved that movie as a kid for some reason, and it’s shockingly bizarre.
Steve reviews probably did a review of it years back.
Give it time 🙂
I still don’t get how Twinkle is “the most beautiful puppet in the world” when she’s so Meh looking.
I vividly remember owning this movie on VHS as a toddler. In all actuality, I quite liked this one. I actually watched it so many times, the tape broke. I occasionally still hum the theme song. Yet, this video makes the best of it.
I think that was Frank Welker voicing the Ringmaster. It sounded a little bit like Thaddeus Plotz from Animaniacs, another role Frank Welker played.
You sure? I'm hearing more Mayor Manx from Swat Kats, another show where he played half the roles.
Nope, that's Jim. Somebody needs to correct the listing on IMDb. Think I'll take the liberty.
@@redkingrauri3769 Mayor Manx sounded more Irish.
I'm surprised you left out the part where (Goodtimes) Pinocchio finds the Fox and the Cat riding in a prison stagecoach and interacts with them for the last time.
Fox: "Why we have done nothing wrong, they've picked up the wrong fellows!"
Prison Coachman: "Oi! Now how's a nice hard-working boy such as yourself know a couple of bums like these?"
Pinocchio: "Do you want me to tell him the truth?"
Fox: "Oh yes, Pinocchio, tell the truth!"
Cat: "Aww yeah, the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!"
Pinocchio: "These two stole my money."
Prison Coachman: "That's what I figured!"
“What should I call you”
“Mega duck”
That funny to me.
Seeing the cricket first be introduced on the hearth and call himself the "cricket of the house" who keeps things in order has convinced me that this is an ancestor of Cricket Crockett. After hearing about all the shit his great great grandcricket had to put up with, Crockett decided empathy was overrated and turned to a life of evil and luck-stealing. Good job, Pinocchio.
Tom Hanks's Gepetto loved yelling Pinocchio's name. really loved it.
We should expect nothing LESS than a DEMON from a block of wood brought to life by a fairy;)
I love that this one's animation looks like the second season of the Problem Child cartoon and Pinocchio totally reminds me of Bobby from Bobby's World:):) The regular AND anthropomorphic animals reminds me of the Tom and Jerry Willy Wonka crossover--"Wait, that dog was on a leash! If dogs can hold down jobs, own homes, and get arrested, why do they still need to be on leashes?!"
The Pleasure Island sequence in 'Geppetto' was pretty awesome thanks to Usher as The Ringmaster--he had a great catchy song:):) That's one of the live-action adaptations that MUST be covered along with the ton of 80s fairy tale ones once all of the cartoons have been exhausted;)
I keep mishearing the part from the Gepetto movie as "Clefairy"...
22:21 that the voice Jim used for the Mayor in SWAT Katz I believe
This was a wonderful roundabout way of dunking on the live-action movie without giving it more attention than it deserves.
4:07 - Live Footage of Dr. Wily building Wood Man
I still like how you're still using the clips of Drew Carry's Geppetto whisper yelling for the Blue Fairy.
“Babe wake up Phelous uploaded again!”
Kinda amazing how disturbing and dark the original tale was.
I liked the Disney movie as a kid so I read the book and thought it was awesome, especially the part where the cricket got murdered since the kid me imagined it being the Disney one.
1:59 Natural born Influencer Pinocchio Paul sniffing poop saying:
“Poo he said. I smell poo! Yes. START TELLING!”
Also
“Way way up, where the planets to the mockup.”
“Spinning shot, till you find yourself on GoodTimes.”
“Let’s take off, we are ready to roll.”
“It’s fun to land with the GoodTimes Patrol.”
I had to add the Zula Patrol theme because growing up watching the show and one of the first shows to expose me to Cam Clarke’s performance, and after knowing he was in a handful of GoodTimes movies, I just have to write it’s theme with GoodTimes in it.
I can't believe how much stuff I watched as a kid that has Cam Clark voicing someone. In BRB's Around the World with Willy Fog, Cam Clark does an insultingly bad French accent to Passepartout (named Rigadon in the cartoon).
I remember that series!
"Oi! That wooden boy's talking to a cricket, he is! Best we lock him up for everyone's safety!"
BTW, we didn't HAVE Pinocchio here in Ukraine until 90s, as entire USSR had their own copyright free remake, Buratino, where he ALWAYS had the long nose, with the donkey business, carnival, "do not lie" part kinda getting lost with the cricket... Still had Gepetto, Fox and Cat being con artists etc., if you run out of cheap Western knock-offs, you always have the entire Pandora's box of unauthorized Eastern remakes, I am too young to see that stuff new, so it was hilarious seeing Soviet versions of Aladdin or Treasure Island AFTER reading the source material (the latter has good animation but live action parts are another story).
Alright, a new Phelan and the movies Goodtimes review! I’ve got to tell you, I’ve watching your channel for a few years now and your DTV reviews are always a relaxing comfort for me after a very long day.
1:45 _What the hell_ is up with modern Disney remakes focusing on _realistic poop_ in their movies? First, the 2019 _Lion King_ and now this. Imagine being an animator whose job is to render this or creator studying animation and storytelling and honing their craft _for years_ trying desperately to get their foot in the door and then they see _this,_ made by people who were _paid thousands_ of dollars for _animating shit_ by a _multi-million dollar, multimedia_ industry that may have “created” their childhood.
I love how this Geppetto is straight-up Dr. Wily from the Ruby-Spears Mega Man cartoon. "Ah, Pinocchio. You vill be my Wood Man 2.0, und I vill equip you with weapons strong enough to finally beat that Meyga Mann!"
Hlarious review, you never disappoint Phelan.
Truth be told, Me and my wife were moving about a few months ago and it was a very rough and exhausting period of time and the process was absolutely grooling, I'd be late at night moving stuff out of that shit apartment to the house so me needing some audio just had a series of your videos playing and when this one came on I hadn't seen it before and it helped me get through that rough period. Then I went back and saw the video itself in a more relaxed setting in the new home and laughed my ass off. So maybe that's weird but either way, Thanks Phelous for the videos and entertainment
Geppeto looks like Dr Wily from the Megaman cartoon of the 1990’s. I can’t wait until Phelous reviews the Megaman cartoon of 1990’s.
What if Unenthustic Dutch man voiced 2022 Pinocchio, 'POOOOOOO!!! I smell POOOOOOO!!!!'
Love your humor Phelan!
I’ve liked your style and comedy for years now 😂
Keep Rocking 🤟😝
Man I love Jim. His work profile is truly amazing.
I never thought i would say that the goodtime version isn't worse than other versions because they're are just so many different Pinocchio movies out there. 🤣
"Carabinieri, which WAS"
Me, being stopped by Carabinieri: YOU DON'T EXIST ANYMORE BEGONE!
Old Man: “Why Pinnochio has gotten all wet! He’s completely _useless_ now!!!”
"Neatness doesn't count in Dunceland!" And that's the latest ticked off on my bingo card of "Sentences I never imagined existing"
are you gotta ignore that's Jim Cummings voicing that & Geppetto? 9:44
He acknowledged it a minute earlier XD
@@daliborjovanovic510 also Jim Cummings voiced the mask from Splatterhouse (2010) video game
1:15-1:43 In Disney's defense, a lot of the stuff they got away with back in the 1940s-1950s wouldn't really fly today unless they wanted their movies to get rated PG-13 or higher. The MPAA's standards have gotten a lot stricter since the turn of the millennium.