In true Filmation fashion, the Evil Queen is pretty much a He-Man or She-Ra villain who despite having near omnipotent magical powers can’t defeat her adversaries out of the convenience of cartoon incompetence.
At least the He-Man and She-Ra villains were fighting an adversary with superhuman strength and an enchanted weapon. The nigh-omnipotent villain in this story is trying and failing to kill an ordinary teenager.
@@cartooncritique6625 And mind you, she froze an entire town. Snow and her husband couldn't stop it! She could take the town, imprison the Whites, mind control the townsfolk and there's the win. But nope she has to get appearance approval!
6:13 I will admit, the notion of Snow White repressing her trauma for the sake of her daughter's emotional health would have been a interesting concept for a fairytale sequel than what we actually got here. On a side note. The Queen transformed herself into a GIANT old lady and used a poison flower instead of just squishing the kid?!
"I will admit, the notion of Snow White repressing her trauma for the sake of her daughter's emotional health would have been a interesting concept for a fairytale sequel than what we actually got here." That's pretty much the premise of Disney's sequel to The Little Mermaid.
That and the fact that she's able to shoot lightning from her fingertips and summon demons at will. Makes you wonder why she ever had trouble killing the original Snow White. This is the same problem Filmation had with their other Snow White "sequel" where the evil queen had a brother who could turn into a freakin' dragon! 🙄
Filmation productions, in spite of their tendency to reuse animation, have a certain charm to them. Also, it's surprising that Disney didn't make their own Snow White Christmas sequel during their straight to video sequel faze.
yeah, both _Happily Ever After_ and _Pinocchio and the Emperor of the Night_ are guilty pleasures for me--i had the former on VHS when i was a little kid and suddenly remembered it decades later, tracked it down, (both videos are on UA-cam in their entirety, btw) learned about the latter from there, and now i have both saved to my harddrive to watch at leisure. i even DID listen-watch to _Happily Ever After_ just the other day :)
I kinda like the idea of the face in the mirror just being herself and the problem was her own insecurities, but the execution of it sucks, if that even is what they mean by the queen's ending.
I was also thinking about that and how it could have been a really cool way to give the evil queen some depth. Too bad they put it in the Grunyon movie!
i always thought that the magic that brought her back was connected to the mirror. when it dies so does she. but it was only a short special. so i guess they chose not to explain it.
The evil Queen being frozen is also ironic when keeping in mind of the original Grim Bro’s version of the story, considering in there she was killed off through being forced to dance in burning hot iron shoes in coals, the exact opposite of being frozen.
In the Hello Kitty version, that actually happens, no kidding! The tale ends with the wolf or cat-like anthro Queen being showed to a room with hot iron shoes and the guard just goes "His majesty wants you to wear these" and we freeze frame on her horrified face. Y'know, for KIDS!
@@anitamihholap5926 Sure I mostly meant “original” as in the story Disney had adapted from. Similar to Disney crediting Charles Perrault for there version of Cinderella despite numerous versions of the story existing centuries before him.
@@SwiftNimblefoot In the NEW Hello Kitty version it does. The old one doesn't have that. The old one has the queen escorted out of the party and that's it.
I like how when the queen gets thawed out the first thing she does after cheating death is immediately booking it to her old castle just to ask the mirror the same old question
The idea of the magic mirror secretly being a reflection of the queen's insecurities the whole time could be interesting... not in this story, of course.
Even He Man has an excuse for it being Christmas and, ridiculously convenient as it was, Christmas actually played a role in the narrative and actually had an impact on the story and characters.
@@lovetolovefairytales I saw Cars this morning. Decades later, millions of dollars in budget more, the most sophisticated software on Earth…and I think Snow White will last longer
Except this special predates He-Man by 3 years. And Blackstar by one. They probably just used the same concepts. Like how Orko was basically Batmite from their AWFUL 1979 Batman cartoon.
Considering that Disney’s Wish ended with the reveal that King Magnifico became the magic mirror, does this mean that the Wicked Queen is also King Magnifico?
Geez, I wonder if Disney is going to make this canon, taking place before the events of Disney's Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs or make a live action movie about the Evil Queen's origin. If Disney did that, it'll probably won't be a box office hit or make her Asian or Hispanic.
I'm a little surprised they didn't use elves as the dwarf stand-ins here, since it's, you know, a Christmas movie. Heck, considering how this film had a Snow White befriend giants and the Snow White from "Happily Ever After" befriended seven 'dwarfelles,' I wonder if Filmation wanted to make their own Snow White multiverse with other creatures like elves, gnomes, etc.
Thank you so much for pointing out the Mandela Effect with the "mirror, mirror" quote. It's been bugging me ever since I rewatched Disney's Snow White and noticed she didn't exactly say that.
This misconception goes back further than Filmation; I remember "mirror mirror" being said in Hanna-Barbara spoofs from the 60's. It is definetely something worth looking in to.
It took me a hot second to realize this was a review for an animated special, because there's actually a live-action made-for-TV film called A Snow White Christmas from 2018 that uses the Snow White fairytale in surprisingly quite clever ways in order re-tell it as a modern-day Christmas story. (It's part of an unofficial trilogy of sorts that also consists of 2016's A Cinderella Christmas and 2019's A Beauty & the Beast Christmas). ❄🎄
Phelan's “I am thou, Thou art I” shattering and presumably killing the audience transitions directly into the credits. This suggests that Phelous credits are the last thing you see when you die. Self burn, those are rare
Filmation is wacky because on the one hand you know they cheaped out at every single turn, but on the other, they really did seem to care about their employees, and cutting costs as much as they did allowed them to keep animators employed year-round through syndication. They were also adamant that they were making stories, and not ads, for kids with shows like "He-Man."
Kind of weird that they did two Snow White sequels and yet didn't use the dwarves for both of them. Even weirder is the fact that the giants here are related to the dwarves for some unexplained reason
The dwarfelles in the other sequel are ALSO explicitly the dwarves' cousins! What a confusing family. Maybe their parents were all _adopted_ siblings or something
maybe, maybe it's some subculture of Mythical creatures to get into seven-way bachelor polycules (that actually sounds like a cool concept)@@Whipwinder
I am guessing the Mirror was a sort of magical object the Queen's life force was bound to, like a phylactery for Liches. Why the Queen forgot all that is beyond me...
I thought they had some sort of magical contract for her being able to use the powers of the mirror, and I also thought "how can you forget that your life is bound to that thing somehow ..."
Wow, you're the first person I've heard mention Happily Ever After. I grew up watching that movie. I hope it gets its own coverage, for there are a couple of decent moments, primarily involving the villain voiced by Malcolm McDowell, and the animation is surprisingly decent for Filmation standards.
The movie actually had a pretty damn good cast of actors in it overall. Phyllis Diller, Dom DeLuise, Ed Asner, Irene Cara, and Frank Weller, as its most notable examples alongside Malcolm McDowell. Funny thing about Frank, though, is that Megatron sounded more like Starscream in the movie. We also got Animat AKA ElectricDragon505 critiquing the story, characters and animation of it while Musical Hell mocked it as... well, a musical. But I learned from the former that the VHS of it placed the advertisement for the merch and sponsored bananas right after the last scene of the movie. You know, I had a VHS for the 101 Dalmatians live action movie and couldn't help but notice them advertise that very movie on that VHS. Even as a 5 year old autistic kid, I noticed that! Imagine how confused I would be if I saw them advertising products before the credits rolled.
Well, technically when the evil Queen said "Mirror, Mirror on the Wall", Filmation was just more faithful to the original fairytale. In the original the evil queen says "Spieglein, Spieglein and der Wand".
When the mirror said "I am you!" and then shattered, I rather expected the Queen to turn into the magic mirror and then be transported back in time, forced to serve her past selfe, knowingof everything that will happen from that point on, but unable to change things.
I feel like there’s a kernel of an interesting idea in the mirror saying “I am you”, but it belongs in a film that actively studies themes of body image issues and an examination of how we can often focus on our own imperfections in a mirror, rather than being a throwaway line in a movie that has a guy named Grunyon beat up by a novelty clock.
I've heard of Happily Ever After, but not this. The fact there are not two Snow Whites, but 3 of them counting the original Snow White, the daughter Snow White, and the Happily Ever After Snow White, it's going to get confusing fast
One of their first major projects was a TOTALLY NOT sequel to that famous 30's Wizard of Oz movie that was completely their own creation and sequel to the book if the lawyers came about. And it took them the better part of a decade to even finish it. Filmation tasks me. They are capable of some actual good stuff like Groovey Goolies, He-Man, their Mighty Mouse, and especially Bravestarr. Then of course, there's stuff like this. And now that I see it, I wouldn't be surprised if Snow White Jr. was just their Sabrina the Teenage Witch cartoon model slightly altered and reused. Because we ALL know how they love to recycle things. And that "I AM you" would have worked better in a stronger Snow White script if they foreshadowed anything about it. Like, "I am you Id" or subconscious or something like that.
This should have been called Snow White and the big friendly giants. I love they mixed Roald Dahl influences with a dash of Christmas for this adaptation.🤣
As if Disney didn’t made enough sequels to their movies, here comes Filmation making some for them! Niiiiice!!! 👍 …. But seriously, I hope Phelous does Happily Ever After next ‘cause I remember that one was quite « something »…. 😉👍
The real Christmas miracle is that somebody got away with doing a Dusty Springfield impersonation while ripping off her version of "Who Gets Your Love" on that "Ooh She's Sleeping" song.
Please, please do the other Snow White sequel too! I actually remember watching that one when we rented it from the video store. The bad guy had a blanket that turned people to stone and there were 7 "dwarfelles" or whatever the heck they called the annoying girl dwarves. I think they were cousins to the original dwarves, which seems...plausible. As a kid I was confused by the pseudo-sequel nature of that movie because I didn't understand the concept of copyrights.😂
I found the movie on YT, remembered watching it as a kid, and got as far as the friendly giant number before I decided I needed a reaction video. Coming here was the right choice.
Discovered this movie via pure accident a few years ago and that "OOOH SHE'S SLEEPING" song has been stuck in my head ever since. Thanks for putting this curse on the general public Phelous
Having seen the Dwarfettes first and the Giants afterwards- I prefer the former- the majority have unique designs, an actual attempt at a personality for each of them, and at least one having a decent character arc.
I love your goofy holiday reviews. I don't know what it is exactly, but they always feel even more fun than the usual fun and silly reviews. Also I'm surprised Filmation did their own knock off movies. With how iconic they were back in the day it feels weird finding out they did this, but it's honestly still a lot of fun.
Honestly, I think Disney did have a case with "Pinocchio and the Emperor of the Night" because that movie had an insect-like companion named after an interjection used to express surprise, Gee Willikers... you know, like Jiminy Cricket? And no, that name isn't from the book, as the cricket had no name, that was purely Disney's invention, so, yeah, I think Filmation just got lucky with the whole "Disney doesn't own the original story" loophole. But when they made "Happily Ever After" and realized that they couldn't use the 7 Dwarfs as, again, they had no names in the original story and the Disney ones are the ones everyone recognizes, so it's not like they could use them and thus had to create the Dwarfelles and say the Dwarfs were having a vacation, not even trying to give them different names, Disney had a better case there because this time Filmation's more clumsy attempts to hide the movie's status as an unnofficial sequel didn't help them. Also, this is probably just a stretch, but the Dwarf in this movie is called Grunyon... which sounds like Gruñon, which is Grumpy's Spanish name... yeah.
There's a Hungarian cartoon titled Hófehér (Snow white) from the 80s. It's a dark comedy retelling of the original fairytale with the titular heroine being an albino and the dwarves are named after the days of the week. Plus the Evil queen is an alcoholic. Sadly I didn't found the English subtitled version, I only heard of the movie because of TvTropes.
In terms of the knockoff animation studios we've seen on this channel, Filmation's quality seems among the highest. Variety of character designs that still feel like they belong (for the most part, 4 and 5 finger hands all over), good camera angles and the animation itself is fairly smooth. Judging by the clips alone from the others they only got better on the animation front too. That stuff looks quite good.
I'm biased towards Flimation Snow White/ happily Ever After because I do enjoy it as a kid and I have nostalgia for it But God I never saw this one, just wow
I hope Phelous will review their Pinocchio movie. It feels like both a sequel and a retelling of the original tale seeing it's set one year after the events of Coloddi's tale but Pinocchio goes through similar stuff nonetheless and briefly returns to being a puppet for an evil puppeteer (closer to Disney's Stromboli than the original Mangiafuocco). Also, James Earl Jones voices the titular Emperor of the Night and it's obviously awesome.
I actually used to watch Happily Ever After a lot as kid, mostly for the creature designs. One slight critique I have for this vid is the use of the Spider-Man AI bit cuz of all the ethical issues surrounding it.
@@yourclairygodmother I mean, unless I'm mistaken, the segment where Toby McGuire (Spider-Man) says "Look at X, gonna cry?" Was most likely made by a ai voice thing that scraped together words the original said without their knowledge or consent. This is actually the 2nd time this happened (the first being his review of the Spider-Man Training dvd), although he didn't seem to use ai when he did it in the recent Resident Evil review, which I appreciate.
Kind of funny Disney did similar ideas to this. The Little Mermaid 2, ariel keeps her old life a secret . And the villain's sister Morgana tricks melody into helping. And in once upon a time there are two sleeping beautys. Stefan defeats maleficent and marrys briar rose. They have a daughter aurora. maleficent cursed Aurora just like her mother.
I love these films were meant to be pseudo-sequels to their Disney equivalents when they're so visually different, tonally different and of a much lower quality even compared to the standards of actual Disney sequels. Though I suppose Phelan's stint of watching these shitty animated adaptions riding of more successful animated adaptations shows it works as long as people don't look too hard at the box cover.
I think I recall reading a Disney book with a story where Snow White meets three giants and has the dwarves meet them and it's a lesson about finding what we all have in common or something.
Well it's a mirror, so it's her reflection. Maybe it never told her she was the prettiest because she never believed it herself, so was telling herself she was ugly this whole time? Maybe that's a bit much for Filmation though. xD
Queen Snow White: "Our Daughter is dead and Grunyon returned alive. This is truly a terrible day."
Queen Snow White: "Grunyon returned alive. This is truly a terrible day." Fixed that for you
Maybe Snow White is secretly a Bhaalspawn?
Grunyon being dressed in my fave colour makes this funnier XD
In true Filmation fashion, the Evil Queen is pretty much a He-Man or She-Ra villain who despite having near omnipotent magical powers can’t defeat her adversaries out of the convenience of cartoon incompetence.
Also, she doesn't know the difference between a mouse and a rat. Filmation neither, apparently.
That's right, only Filmation could mistake a possum for a mouse.
At least the He-Man and She-Ra villains were fighting an adversary with superhuman strength and an enchanted weapon. The nigh-omnipotent villain in this story is trying and failing to kill an ordinary teenager.
@@cartooncritique6625 And mind you, she froze an entire town. Snow and her husband couldn't stop it! She could take the town, imprison the Whites, mind control the townsfolk and there's the win. But nope she has to get appearance approval!
6:13 I will admit, the notion of Snow White repressing her trauma for the sake of her daughter's emotional health would have been a interesting concept for a fairytale sequel than what we actually got here.
On a side note. The Queen transformed herself into a GIANT old lady and used a poison flower instead of just squishing the kid?!
Old habits die hard, I guess.
would've been way too easy.
"I will admit, the notion of Snow White repressing her trauma for the sake of her daughter's emotional health would have been a interesting concept for a fairytale sequel than what we actually got here."
That's pretty much the premise of Disney's sequel to The Little Mermaid.
That and the fact that she's able to shoot lightning from her fingertips and summon demons at will. Makes you wonder why she ever had trouble killing the original Snow White. This is the same problem Filmation had with their other Snow White "sequel" where the evil queen had a brother who could turn into a freakin' dragon! 🙄
I would unironically go watch an action movie called "Snow White in the Land of Doom".
"How do we build a castle for the children?"
"RIP and TEAR, until it is done"
The mirror being the queen implies that the queen hated herself and secretly wanted to die
Honestly if they’d added like one more sentence to that reveal with this bit that would’ve been kinda cool
I guess the idea is the mirror represents the part of herself that's honest, because mirrors don't lie.
Makes sense right? Cus it is a mirror. I think that's pretty cool.
@@dundeecake Deep dark truthful mirror. :)
@@graemesmith6721what about fun house mirrors
Filmation productions, in spite of their tendency to reuse animation, have a certain charm to them. Also, it's surprising that Disney didn't make their own Snow White Christmas sequel during their straight to video sequel faze.
They were going to do a prequel with the 7 dwarves but it was scrapped
They did with Beauty and the Beast, though that was more of a midquel and was frankly one of the more better-made ones.
yeah, both _Happily Ever After_ and _Pinocchio and the Emperor of the Night_ are guilty pleasures for me--i had the former on VHS when i was a little kid and suddenly remembered it decades later, tracked it down, (both videos are on UA-cam in their entirety, btw) learned about the latter from there, and now i have both saved to my harddrive to watch at leisure. i even DID listen-watch to _Happily Ever After_ just the other day :)
@@brandonlyon730 I thought it was just okay, but having Tim Curry in it is definitely a point in its favor.
Too bad Flareon Ferrari couldn't recapture that charm with The Christmas Tree...
I kinda like the idea of the face in the mirror just being herself and the problem was her own insecurities, but the execution of it sucks, if that even is what they mean by the queen's ending.
I was also thinking about that and how it could have been a really cool way to give the evil queen some depth. Too bad they put it in the Grunyon movie!
i always thought that the magic that brought her back was connected to the mirror. when it dies so does she. but it was only a short special. so i guess they chose not to explain it.
that would make a really good premise of a villain song!
Yes, there's a kernel of an interesting story idea in all of that. I was intrigued for about 10 seconds.
Magic Mirror: I am a Shadow, a reflection of your True Self!
„Meanwhile over in Eternia..,“ 😂
The evil Queen being frozen is also ironic when keeping in mind of the original Grim Bro’s version of the story, considering in there she was killed off through being forced to dance in burning hot iron shoes in coals, the exact opposite of being frozen.
In the Hello Kitty version, that actually happens, no kidding! The tale ends with the wolf or cat-like anthro Queen being showed to a room with hot iron shoes and the guard just goes "His majesty wants you to wear these" and we freeze frame on her horrified face. Y'know, for KIDS!
@SwiftNimblefoot That really happened?! In a super kid-friendly Hello Kitty no less?! Jesus Christ!
Pretty sure Brothers Grimm wasn't the original. Didn't they collect the stories?
@@anitamihholap5926 Sure I mostly meant “original” as in the story Disney had adapted from. Similar to Disney crediting Charles Perrault for there version of Cinderella despite numerous versions of the story existing centuries before him.
@@SwiftNimblefoot In the NEW Hello Kitty version it does. The old one doesn't have that. The old one has the queen escorted out of the party and that's it.
I like how when the queen gets thawed out the first thing she does after cheating death is immediately booking it to her old castle just to ask the mirror the same old question
Well, you can't say she isn't consistent.
@@cartooncritique6625 lmao
The idea of the magic mirror secretly being a reflection of the queen's insecurities the whole time could be interesting... not in this story, of course.
For a Snow White Christmas it doesn't feel very Christmassy, it's basically forgotten once the Step Mother Queen appears
At least the Evil Queen isn't trying to steal/destroy Christmas...
I need to stop saying, "at least"...
Yeah, the whole Christmas plot is totally forgotten.
@SwiftNimblefoot The Giants could have had a Christmas tree in their house to keep up the set dressing.
Even He Man has an excuse for it being Christmas and, ridiculously convenient as it was, Christmas actually played a role in the narrative and actually had an impact on the story and characters.
Well some people think Die Hard is a Christmas movie so I guess this this is christmassy enough to be called that
Old Man: "You think we should bring Grunyon into our Motley Crue?"
Wabuu: "Sure. Torturing Wuschel has lost its excitement."
Old Man: "We'll kickstart his heart, and give it a start!"
Wabuu: Shuuuut uuuup! Your references are sooooooo stuuupiiid!
who else is in there? if I had to guess, the "make it stop hurting" kid from Little Angels, Dr. D, "HENRY OH MY GOD!" and inkstain hand Frollo
@@syppy7416 Mario Zeldenstein should be in there as well
"Something strange has happened. Now there are TWO Snow Whites!"
It’s staggering how good the original Snow White still looks, especially compared to imitators!
It was their first feature length film in theaters, they wanted to make a good impression
What don't you know it was made 80 years ago and very evidently so? 😂
@@lovetolovefairytales I saw Cars this morning. Decades later, millions of dollars in budget more, the most sophisticated software on Earth…and I think Snow White will last longer
@@bloodrunsclear you didn't get the joke, did you? Whoosh.
@@lovetolovefairytales Nope, sorry ^^;
This just feels like the He-Man and She-Ra special again
Needs more Manchines
@@dexstewart862and Christmas Skeletor
Except this special predates He-Man by 3 years. And Blackstar by one. They probably just used the same concepts. Like how Orko was basically Batmite from their AWFUL 1979 Batman cartoon.
You act like that's a bad thing.
Considering that Disney’s Wish ended with the reveal that King Magnifico became the magic mirror, does this mean that the Wicked Queen is also King Magnifico?
That was a dumb Easter egg.
Geez, I wonder if Disney is going to make this canon, taking place before the events of Disney's Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs or make a live action movie about the Evil Queen's origin. If Disney did that, it'll probably won't be a box office hit or make her Asian or Hispanic.
Yes😂
@@jlev1028what you don’t like Easter eggs?😅 buzzkill
I'm a little surprised they didn't use elves as the dwarf stand-ins here, since it's, you know, a Christmas movie.
Heck, considering how this film had a Snow White befriend giants and the Snow White from "Happily Ever After" befriended seven 'dwarfelles,' I wonder if Filmation wanted to make their own Snow White multiverse with other creatures like elves, gnomes, etc.
And all of them are _somehow_ cousins to the seven dwarfs. At least with the dwarfelles they're just female dwarfs, but the giants...?
It's been a good while since Phelous has reviewed a batshit insane animation, always an intellectual treat
Funnily enough, there was actually a Disney Princess book where Snow White befriends some giants.
Hearing Melendy Britt as the voice of the Wicked Queen brought a smile to my face. Always a pleasure to hear her. For the dishonor of Grayskull.
I’m just shocked it’s not Kathleen Barr for once
Furious that I'll now have WE ARE THE SEVEN FRIENDLY GIANTS stuck in my head for the rest of the year.
Dammit, why'd you have to say that at the end? Now I've melted into a puddle and exploded into a pink smoke, and it's all your/my fault!
It wouldn't be Christmas without a wacky yuletide tale from a bargin bin animation studio. Thank you and Merry Christmas, Phelous.
Hey, I'd sooner watch Snow White Christmas rather than bore myself with Rudi Rotnase...
You know it's the season when Phelous reviews shoddy Christmas animation movies
Disney villains have always been impressive, but nothing has ever compared to the Filmation queen who uses the powers of East West!
Start Telling!
Poo, I smell poo. Yes. And- pooo there must be a farm.
Surprise Lotus sighting!
@@StrawberryShorty eyyy
That end credit music is the most Filmation sounding music ever.
Thank you so much for pointing out the Mandela Effect with the "mirror, mirror" quote. It's been bugging me ever since I rewatched Disney's Snow White and noticed she didn't exactly say that.
Honestly I didn’t know that was a thing 🤷♀️
Thats what she says in the og fairytale tho
Pretty sure there are Disney storybooks that have the line
This misconception goes back further than Filmation; I remember "mirror mirror" being said in Hanna-Barbara spoofs from the 60's. It is definetely something worth looking in to.
Don’t worry evil Queen, you tried your best and you failed miserably.
The lesson is: never try.
It took me a hot second to realize this was a review for an animated special, because there's actually a live-action made-for-TV film called A Snow White Christmas from 2018 that uses the Snow White fairytale in surprisingly quite clever ways in order re-tell it as a modern-day Christmas story. (It's part of an unofficial trilogy of sorts that also consists of 2016's A Cinderella Christmas and 2019's A Beauty & the Beast Christmas). ❄🎄
And then there's also A Cinderella Story: Christmas Wish for another fairy tale Christmas movie.
Phelan's “I am thou, Thou art I” shattering and presumably killing the audience transitions directly into the credits. This suggests that Phelous credits are the last thing you see when you die.
Self burn, those are rare
"We are the seven friendly giants" over and over again. drives you mad.
10 times! They sing that line 10 times!
kept waiting for He-man to show up and save the day
Or Skeletor, the Christmas spirit brings out the best in him.
That interview said it all. "Who cares." That when a children's film company is in good hands. Wooow.
Filmation is wacky because on the one hand you know they cheaped out at every single turn, but on the other, they really did seem to care about their employees, and cutting costs as much as they did allowed them to keep animators employed year-round through syndication. They were also adamant that they were making stories, and not ads, for kids with shows like "He-Man."
Kind of weird that they did two Snow White sequels and yet didn't use the dwarves for both of them. Even weirder is the fact that the giants here are related to the dwarves for some unexplained reason
The dwarfelles in the other sequel are ALSO explicitly the dwarves' cousins! What a confusing family. Maybe their parents were all _adopted_ siblings or something
Maybe the dwarves were the giants’ ‘cousins’ in the same way the giants were ‘brothers.’
maybe, maybe it's some subculture of Mythical creatures to get into seven-way bachelor polycules (that actually sounds like a cool concept)@@Whipwinder
I will assume they're ALL distant cousins somehow XD
I am guessing the Mirror was a sort of magical object the Queen's life force was bound to, like a phylactery for Liches. Why the Queen forgot all that is beyond me...
I thought they had some sort of magical contract for her being able to use the powers of the mirror, and I also thought "how can you forget that your life is bound to that thing somehow ..."
Wow, you're the first person I've heard mention Happily Ever After. I grew up watching that movie. I hope it gets its own coverage, for there are a couple of decent moments, primarily involving the villain voiced by Malcolm McDowell, and the animation is surprisingly decent for Filmation standards.
The movie actually had a pretty damn good cast of actors in it overall. Phyllis Diller, Dom DeLuise, Ed Asner, Irene Cara, and Frank Weller, as its most notable examples alongside Malcolm McDowell. Funny thing about Frank, though, is that Megatron sounded more like Starscream in the movie. We also got Animat AKA ElectricDragon505 critiquing the story, characters and animation of it while Musical Hell mocked it as... well, a musical. But I learned from the former that the VHS of it placed the advertisement for the merch and sponsored bananas right after the last scene of the movie. You know, I had a VHS for the 101 Dalmatians live action movie and couldn't help but notice them advertise that very movie on that VHS. Even as a 5 year old autistic kid, I noticed that! Imagine how confused I would be if I saw them advertising products before the credits rolled.
Well, technically when the evil Queen said "Mirror, Mirror on the Wall", Filmation was just more faithful to the original fairytale. In the original the evil queen says "Spieglein, Spieglein and der Wand".
When the mirror said "I am you!" and then shattered, I rather expected the Queen to turn into the magic mirror and then be transported back in time, forced to serve her past selfe, knowingof everything that will happen from that point on, but unable to change things.
That happened to Quan-Chi and his amulet in Mortal Kombat in one of his endings.
@@jeffbroadbent5072 Armageddon.
I feel like there’s a kernel of an interesting idea in the mirror saying “I am you”, but it belongs in a film that actively studies themes of body image issues and an examination of how we can often focus on our own imperfections in a mirror, rather than being a throwaway line in a movie that has a guy named Grunyon beat up by a novelty clock.
I've heard of Happily Ever After, but not this. The fact there are not two Snow Whites, but 3 of them counting the original Snow White, the daughter Snow White, and the Happily Ever After Snow White, it's going to get confusing fast
yeah must be a confusing family
Holy crap, this unlocked an ancient memory of me watching Happily Ever After a lot as a kid.
One of their first major projects was a TOTALLY NOT sequel to that famous 30's Wizard of Oz movie that was completely their own creation and sequel to the book if the lawyers came about. And it took them the better part of a decade to even finish it. Filmation tasks me. They are capable of some actual good stuff like Groovey Goolies, He-Man, their Mighty Mouse, and especially Bravestarr. Then of course, there's stuff like this. And now that I see it, I wouldn't be surprised if Snow White Jr. was just their Sabrina the Teenage Witch cartoon model slightly altered and reused. Because we ALL know how they love to recycle things.
And that "I AM you" would have worked better in a stronger Snow White script if they foreshadowed anything about it. Like, "I am you Id" or subconscious or something like that.
This should have been called Snow White and the big friendly giants. I love they mixed Roald Dahl influences with a dash of Christmas for this adaptation.🤣
As if Disney didn’t made enough sequels to their movies, here comes Filmation making some for them!
Niiiiice!!! 👍
…. But seriously, I hope Phelous does Happily Ever After next ‘cause I remember that one was quite « something »…. 😉👍
I'd be so happy. I simultaneously love it, because I grew up with it, and also know it is some awkward, strange, hilarious shit.
Evil Queen screaming "blow" intensively is so funny to me
This blows enough alright XD
21:24 I unironically love the Mirror Mirror's delivery of that line - so much passion, so much anger
It sounds like the end of a Megatron/Galvatron team-up.
The real Christmas miracle is that somebody got away with doing a Dusty Springfield impersonation while ripping off her version of "Who Gets Your Love" on that "Ooh She's Sleeping" song.
I remember them showing us this in Kindergarten or First Grade and I spent the longest time thinking it was just some weird fever dream.
Gotta love how the giants are dressed in the colours of the rainbow (mostly)
🎵"Can you grow giant with all the colors of the wind?"🎵
🎶 'Cause I'm gonna take you to Rainbow Bri-iiiiiittteeee! 🎶
(I couldn't help myself)
«They mostly dress in the colors of the rainbow. Mostly»
Covergiant! Put the BASS in your walk!
"most of the Giant's colors are sooooooooooooooo stuuuupid... hehehehehe" *head bops up and down@@TommyDeonauthsArchives
like if you also screamed and melted when phelous said "i am you!" and shattered.
"Load bearing queen" really made me laugh. That's a good joke!
Please, please do the other Snow White sequel too! I actually remember watching that one when we rented it from the video store. The bad guy had a blanket that turned people to stone and there were 7 "dwarfelles" or whatever the heck they called the annoying girl dwarves. I think they were cousins to the original dwarves, which seems...plausible. As a kid I was confused by the pseudo-sequel nature of that movie because I didn't understand the concept of copyrights.😂
I found the movie on YT, remembered watching it as a kid, and got as far as the friendly giant number before I decided I needed a reaction video.
Coming here was the right choice.
Also, the evil stepmother has the look of He-Man's Evil Lynn.
With a dash of OG Catra to add the taste( voice and persona?)
Its so funny that og snow white got a fancy glass and gold casket
Meanwhile snow white junior gets a fucking _match cardboard box_
You have GOT to review Pinocchio and the Emperor of the Night.
A Phelmation review is what we needed
That was so disapointing when demons vanished. I really wanted to see that fight!
I remember seeing this when I was a kid. Every once in awhile, "We are the Seven Friendly Giants" still pops in my head.
🎶 "We are the Seven Friendly Giants." That's my new ringtone.
2:47 cue Donatello's "That was last year!" line from We Wish You A Turtle Christmas.
Guess I’m dreaming of a SNOW white Christmas.🤣
Love these animation reviews
Please tell me I'm not the only one who actually pretended to die after Phelous shattered at the end
It can't be worse than the Beauty and the Beast Christmas
"Anyway, to cut a long story short, Old Man ruined Christmas."
Looks like Christmas is completely useless now!
22:34 "Wow, great Simpsons joke, Phelan!"
Could those seven giants remind me who they are again? They seem friendly, so I'm sure they'll gladly oblige.
Okay, now that you've graced us with a review of a Christmas movie, it is truely Christmas
17:18 Queen: This is indeed a very special homecoming... For me.
Wabuu: For yoooouuuuuu
now Disney is giving us 7 Magical Bandits.
For some reason I lost it at the Seven Friendly Giants' really repetitive song, I guess I really needed that laugh
Discovered this movie via pure accident a few years ago and that "OOOH SHE'S SLEEPING" song has been stuck in my head ever since. Thanks for putting this curse on the general public Phelous
It isn't Christmas until Phelous blesses us with a Christmas cartoon. 🎄
Having seen the Dwarfettes first and the Giants afterwards- I prefer the former- the majority have unique designs, an actual attempt at a personality for each of them, and at least one having a decent character arc.
Snow White Jr looks like she belongs on The Jetsons
If only Hanna Barbera did this one instead of Filmation.
The seven friendly giants' song sounds like a local radio advertisement
I love your goofy holiday reviews. I don't know what it is exactly, but they always feel even more fun than the usual fun and silly reviews.
Also I'm surprised Filmation did their own knock off movies. With how iconic they were back in the day it feels weird finding out they did this, but it's honestly still a lot of fun.
Honestly, I think Disney did have a case with "Pinocchio and the Emperor of the Night" because that movie had an insect-like companion named after an interjection used to express surprise, Gee Willikers... you know, like Jiminy Cricket? And no, that name isn't from the book, as the cricket had no name, that was purely Disney's invention, so, yeah, I think Filmation just got lucky with the whole "Disney doesn't own the original story" loophole.
But when they made "Happily Ever After" and realized that they couldn't use the 7 Dwarfs as, again, they had no names in the original story and the Disney ones are the ones everyone recognizes, so it's not like they could use them and thus had to create the Dwarfelles and say the Dwarfs were having a vacation, not even trying to give them different names, Disney had a better case there because this time Filmation's more clumsy attempts to hide the movie's status as an unnofficial sequel didn't help them.
Also, this is probably just a stretch, but the Dwarf in this movie is called Grunyon... which sounds like Gruñon, which is Grumpy's Spanish name... yeah.
you know, I gotta give it to Emperor Of The Night for that scene where he turns back into a puppet holy shit lol
There's a Hungarian cartoon titled Hófehér (Snow white) from the 80s. It's a dark comedy retelling of the original fairytale with the titular heroine being an albino and the dwarves are named after the days of the week. Plus the Evil queen is an alcoholic. Sadly I didn't found the English subtitled version, I only heard of the movie because of TvTropes.
In terms of the knockoff animation studios we've seen on this channel, Filmation's quality seems among the highest. Variety of character designs that still feel like they belong (for the most part, 4 and 5 finger hands all over), good camera angles and the animation itself is fairly smooth. Judging by the clips alone from the others they only got better on the animation front too. That stuff looks quite good.
I'm biased towards Flimation Snow White/ happily Ever After because I do enjoy it as a kid and I have nostalgia for it
But God I never saw this one, just wow
And of course her Red Hot Iron shoes should I prevented her from being frozen.
I just can't get over "it doesn't sound very good, but who cares?"
Man, those big guys were really helpful. I only wish we had gotten their names...
Emperor of the Night was legit amazing.
I hope Phelous will review their Pinocchio movie. It feels like both a sequel and a retelling of the original tale seeing it's set one year after the events of Coloddi's tale but Pinocchio goes through similar stuff nonetheless and briefly returns to being a puppet for an evil puppeteer (closer to Disney's Stromboli than the original Mangiafuocco). Also, James Earl Jones voices the titular Emperor of the Night and it's obviously awesome.
Grunyon might be related to the spanish name of Grumpy (gruñón)
Never forgot this movie. Had it on VHS. Watched it so many times.
I actually used to watch Happily Ever After a lot as kid, mostly for the creature designs.
One slight critique I have for this vid is the use of the Spider-Man AI bit cuz of all the ethical issues surrounding it.
What do you mean?
@@yourclairygodmother
I mean, unless I'm mistaken, the segment where Toby McGuire (Spider-Man) says "Look at X, gonna cry?" Was most likely made by a ai voice thing that scraped together words the original said without their knowledge or consent. This is actually the 2nd time this happened (the first being his review of the Spider-Man Training dvd), although he didn't seem to use ai when he did it in the recent Resident Evil review, which I appreciate.
15:01 I laughed at this for an inordinately long time. I don't even know why.
Everyone! All together now!!!
"We are the seven friendly giants!"
Before we got the low budget direct-to-video Disney sequels, we got the semi-sequels from Filmation
Kind of funny Disney did similar ideas to this. The Little Mermaid 2, ariel keeps her old life a secret . And the villain's sister Morgana tricks melody into helping. And in once upon a time there are two sleeping beautys. Stefan defeats maleficent and marrys briar rose. They have a daughter aurora. maleficent cursed Aurora just like her mother.
I love these films were meant to be pseudo-sequels to their Disney equivalents when they're so visually different, tonally different and of a much lower quality even compared to the standards of actual Disney sequels. Though I suppose Phelan's stint of watching these shitty animated adaptions riding of more successful animated adaptations shows it works as long as people don't look too hard at the box cover.
Christmas was a shitshow this year with my niece passing so I’ll enjoy your Christmas episodes to fill my void. ❤
I think I recall reading a Disney book with a story where Snow White meets three giants and has the dwarves meet them and it's a lesson about finding what we all have in common or something.
Well it's a mirror, so it's her reflection. Maybe it never told her she was the prettiest because she never believed it herself, so was telling herself she was ugly this whole time? Maybe that's a bit much for Filmation though. xD
Speaking of bizzare 70s Snow White cartoons, Phelous should review The Harlem Globetrotters meets Snow White from Hanna- Barbera. Yeah, that exists.