Since I started using Softube Amp Room Marshall Edition, I have dumped all other amp and cab simulators including my meticulous IR collection. Guitar is so much more joy to play now. Thank you EV for introducing Amp Room. I would probably still not know about it.
Man, that 2203ZW is so dynamic and huge sounding...it's everything I want...sounds thicker and throatier than the plugin. I find that's what most modellers have trouble with, that mid lower end frequency. No doubt the guys at Softube have hit it out of the park capturing 90% of the tone and it's amazing what you get for a few bucks.
So damn close, eben nearly the same, at least it won't make any difference in mixing. Tonal wise it's fascinating how good the emulation is. Thanks for showing. Cheers
Casually listening on DT770 headphones, the plugin has more high mids than the amp, but less extended low end and less 'warmth' than the amp. The plugin basically sounded like an EQ'd version of the amp with the low sub filtered out and the treble/presence frequency areas boosted slightly. Would be interesting to hear the plugin with the bass turned up and treble/presence turned down slightly to see just how close to the amp it could get. Very good job by Softube overall though.
Love the video, playing is perfect, tone is perfect, all is good, my only feedback is the "snappy" drums, felt a bit uncomfortable in my headphones, might just be me, but i suggest you use a faster attack on your drums buss compressor in your future videos. Good luck mate!
this comparison is really cool, you already did the test with softube marshall 1959 plex, that's why I would like to know if you can play Malmsteen with him using a Malmsteen pedal.
Thanks! I haven't done it but will do in the future. I guess to be able to play Yngwie one needs to have the skills first and foremost and I'm pretty sure no gear in the world could help with that ;-). But jokes aside; I guess with a Strat, a Plexi and an overdrive you'll get at least a tone similar to YJM.
To be honest only I heard was a little bit of depth defference between amp and plugin in the power-chord part, but I would say is almost 95% to 98% the same really incredible amp.
Thanks! There is a song with drums & bass in the beginning of the video 😉. It’s just my ”demo” mix since I’m not a professional mixing engineer but should give an idea 😎👍.
Thing is... with a real amp, I can turn my tone knob down 1 number, switch pickups, or change volume and it responds and changes sound so much more than a sim. I think tones are pretty good on the sims now, but they still don’t beat playing the real deal. I would like to see what the plug-in sounds like through a real cabinet through a fryette or something....lol. Great videos !
Ah you meant comparison in the mix. Sorry my bad :-) The song is just the plugin. But it's like in general: it depends on the mix I guess - if / when there's a low cut / hi pass filter on the guitars (to make "room" for bass) or some EQ going on etc. you really can't tell the difference.
I got the same plugin, but doesn't sounds remotely as close to yours. Your sound is awesome, specially with SD-1. Maybe the external pedal is the trick?
Most of the sound is in the hands of the player and amps / plugins etc. amplifies that but that being said the SD-1 is indeed a key element of my tone / sound. With real amps & with plugins 😎👌.
I currently live on a sailboat so I don't really have room for the Marshall, even my 1/4 stack is in storage for now-- so I'm downloading the trial unit for my iMac. Speaking of SoftTube products, have you tried their Acoustic Feedback yet? Btw, I enjoyed your comparisons of the real Marshall amps like the JTM45 and 1287X.
Great video and really interesting. The plug-in is very good. With the chugging metal riffs the plug-in holds up pretty well, though it has less depth than the real amp to my ears. Where I noticed a bigger difference was when you switched to the firebird shape guitar and played some bluesy lead. The plug-in has to my ears an annoying kind of fizzy hollow character, kind of sounds a bit artificial. I had to listen hard. Probably if I was playing it myself it would be easier to pick out. Saying that most people maybe wouldn’t notice a difference. Cheers
Yeah it’s impressive and really useful I bet. In the video you talked about speakers and using V30’s. I’ve tried G12t75’s, G12H30’s and G12M25’s, though my current faves with an 800 are a cab with G12 65’s from 79. Have you tried these?
Hello Euge, since I know you are a great connoisseur of the authentic marshall sound, I am very very interested to know what you think of the sims amps from the Nembrini Firm, and especially their latest creation, Mrh 159 (based on a superlead). opinion that it looks more like the real Nembrini mrh 159 or softube 2203 amplifiers and in all its amps in general that you think Nembrini compared to softube. Thank you, I really like your channel, we share similar tastes in everything related to the guitar and their sound Greetings.
Cool thanks ;-) i actually have them all on the uad Plattform :-) really interesting how you made the Demos and the Sound is great. I just subscribed keep up the good work ;-) just one question on the Silver jubilee Plug-in i find the highs a little fizzy. I guess then an EQ at the and of the Chain helps? Thanks again. Henrik
Oh cool! Glad to hear! Thanks Henrik🙏. Yeah that’s the Jube character and the EQ helps if needed. The tone knobs are really sensitive like on a real amp and just a minor tweak affects the sound lot more than most of other Marshalls.
@@EugeValovirta230V you are welcome ;-) thanks a Lot again for your answer. Ok now I better understand that the jubilee is more sensitive than other amps ;-) cheers
can you share any of the marshall settings with the yellow drive? I find it difficult to dial, its missing theharmanic frequency range you get from Real speakers and air (of course its a plug in ) but I was hoping for the basic ACDC and SD1 Syke's Marshall tone
Level almost maxed, Tone between 13-15 o’clock according to taste, Drive barely open so it just adds a bit 🤟. Marshall settings: I don’t have, just dial whatever sounds good and what I’m looking for in a given situation / mix. But in general: usually lots of everything 🤟.
@@EugeValovirta230V hey thanks for been cool, the thing is imm into the randy rhoads zack thing too but cant decidde between a sd1 or mxr d+, have you compared the MXR or Zack MXRs to the SD1?
Sounds like you’d need to double track the 2203 plug-in to get the same depth as a single tracked real tube jcm800. There is a slight but very noticeable difference between the two.
thought the zw was a little rounder in the lows and the jmp a little tighter. could it be the difference in "tubes", or real vs fake? i don't really care. you'll love this with different cabs. i prefer the softube marshall greenback cab, but your bogrens should work fine. great work, as always. glad to see you enjoyed yourself so much. you thinking about the plexi or bluesbreaker yet?
Hej Hej Euge, thats great video and work! thanks, may i ask have you evet try amplitube 5 or did you check some compariosson? between softube vs amplitube5? Thanks
Ah sorry 😁. I haven’t checked in a while what they’re worth nowadays but since those are considered vintage amps I’d assume the prices are between 1.5 to 2K € depending on the condition of the amp. Which sounds reasonable to me.
Nope. Just personal preferences. In my experience JMP 2203s have always been a bit smoother and 800 2203s a bit more aggressive. I have three (two from the 80s and Zakk Wylde signature from 2000s) 800 2203s and I used to own a ’79 JMP 2203. Softube has done great work emulating both amps 🤟.
Hello Euge, how are you? What would you say would bring me closer to a real amplifier sound on the computer: softube marshall jmp 2203 or Friedman BE-OD connected directly to the interface and adding an IR to it as the only post pedal process (both cases would be pushed with a sd-1 boss) Thanks for your time Euge.
All good thanks! The Friedman is great and I’ve used one live many years but Softube’s Marshall emulations are so good that it’s really hard to tell the difference anymore; they just don’t sound like a Marshall but also behave like one when you increase the master volume especially past noon 👌.
Hi Euge, İ have some latecy issue with that softube amp on 2i2, may i ask whats yours when recording or playing i did 64-32 but still hear some delays...many thanks bu the way its awesome! ı use amplitube amps but softube did it! gratz
The Softube plug-ins sound really good. Maybe some of the best there are. There useful. But a real tube amp is alive. It breaths and puts out tone in a way that you can feel in your bones. The plug-ins replicate, but aren't the real thing. I look at like pizza. There's real good pizza shop pizza, and then there's frozen. Some of the frozen is pretty good, but it still isn't good pizza shop pizza. The plug-ins make it quick and easy to get a good recording tone for me. I just want to plug in at times and not have to deal with setting up mics and getting it right.
They are really good but the real deal is obviously always a real deal. But it isn't necessarily always the best; I mean I've played for example with some really horrible sounding rental 800s on some festival shows and would've preferred much more something like this instead. I guess that's why I haven't played a (rented) tube amp since 2017 but used Friedman BE-OD as my amp and Neunaber Iconoclast as my cab / mic'd speaker emulator directly to the mixing desk and to my in-ears. Sounds and feels fantastic and the sound is the same night after night :-)
@@EugeValovirta230V I think a lot of it if not all of it unless they modded the amp is the tubes that were in it. Tubes as you know play such a huge part in how the amp sounds and feels. I change my tubes out in new amps I buy almost immediately. These days I use a lot of JJ'S, but mixing and matching preamp tubes really let's you shape the tone. I wonder if they used Soviet tubes. There so harsh to me.
Yeah it was usually the tubes but clean sounds were usually good (especially on metal festivals😊) so I started to use first the BE-OD into amps clean channels and then I switched to my current non-amp live setup.
@@EugeValovirta230V That makes it easy I'm sure. Flying with gear is hard these days. And the smaller and lighter the rig the better. A lot of guys seem to be going with using small tube combos miked and direct, but whatever works for you is what matters and it's nice to have so many options these days.
Hi Euge, what are the mic settings when you are using jens IR , using mc 1 and 2 on the rigth side? or just one i dont know jens used 2 mic on the cab, what do you think?
@@EugeValovirta230V I mean on the softube marshall plug in there are 2 mics with several option, if we are gonna go with 3rd IR , choose bottom of the menu, but mentioned 2 mics are still activated status my question is if we go for 3rd IR shoud we use 2 activated mic or just one , i hope i can explain now😀😀 if no i ll send a screenshot to you
For a "hobbyist" who still plays many hours a day (at home), would you recommend a plugin or a real amp with a cab & attenuator? Been using plugins for years but I kinda feel like getting a real amp again. Not sure if it's worth the trouble though.
The plugins are really good nowadays and I used them a long time at home before I got the Suhr Reactive Load and I gotta say that the real thing is always a real thing 💪😎. I mean you can get from point A to B with a Nissan Micra but it’s a lot more entertaining to do with a Ford Mustang 😊.
At the end of the day everything in recorded music is digitalised since we hardly record to analog tape and then press the masters to vinyl anymore. Audio interface converts the signal from AD to DI so that a computer & DAW can ”understand” it so there goes the analog path already 😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V I know those facts...I put it in apostrophes because I meant that it might take a fakeness in the feeling like the plugin amp has, most of the time was kinda annoying to my ears even if some times I thought it was the amplifier ... Although I took a look at the IR thing and saw that is pretty close to what the cab sounds so I know that the sound isn't downgraded through one...
wow most amp simps come off a bit dull and rubbery lol This UAD model has snarl and presence that's pretty much the signature sound but the cab body feels a bit unnatural, but in a mix with maybe a good mid boost like use the Helios mid range, you'll never know. No wonder all the big studios are selling off their consoles and out board gear.
Nothing beats the real thing man. I’ve wasted so much time trying to get on with digital solutions but it just never gives me satisfaction. Great tool, but just jumps out as not authentic to my ears
Yeah the real deal is always a real deal but I’m quite surprised how good some of the ”artificial” ones are nowadays. Especially Softube has done a really great job on their Marshall ones 😎👌.
@@EugeValovirta230V agreed, softube guys know what they’re doing. I just think its not possible to get 100% there with the current tech. I use ampsims mainly for practice to not waste the tubes.
Not sure if it’s ever possible 😊. I’ve used amp sims along with real amps on many albums I’ve recorded in the last few years but mainly I use them for songwriting, demoing and just playing.
Neural stuff is great. And they’re my fellow countrymen so can’t say anything else 😎. Can’t recall them having any Marshall plugins but the stuff they’re doing is absolutely fantastic. But again; nothing beats the real deal 💪😉.
Since I started using Softube Amp Room Marshall Edition, I have dumped all other amp and cab simulators including my meticulous IR collection. Guitar is so much more joy to play now. Thank you EV for introducing Amp Room. I would probably still not know about it.
Cool man! Glad to hear this 👌. Thanks!
not sure about sound yet but I like the softube over overloud thu experience.
Man, that 2203ZW is so dynamic and huge sounding...it's everything I want...sounds thicker and throatier than the plugin. I find that's what most modellers have trouble with, that mid lower end frequency. No doubt the guys at Softube have hit it out of the park capturing 90% of the tone and it's amazing what you get for a few bucks.
I agree 👌😎.
The real amp is slightly louder than the plugin. This can be a bit confusing for inexperienced listeners. Great job anyway! I love your videos!
I dialled the levels pretty much the same but the real amp might be a bit louder. Also because the sound is a bit fuller 😎.
Great demo. Thanks for taking the time to work through the details of the comparison.
Thanks!
That´s an instant subscribe.. Awesome sound and feel. Love the fact that you have a nice white piano in the background..
Thanks man! Glad to hear! 🙏🤟
Your demos have been very helpful, thank you!
Glad you like them! Thanks!
Hearing some zakk at 13.00! Sounds great man!
Thanks! 💪🤘😎
So damn close, eben nearly the same, at least it won't make any difference in mixing. Tonal wise it's fascinating how good the emulation is. Thanks for showing. Cheers
Indeed 👌.
That is a sweet plugin on a well-deserving amplifier!
Indeed!
Casually listening on DT770 headphones, the plugin has more high mids than the amp, but less extended low end and less 'warmth' than the amp. The plugin basically sounded like an EQ'd version of the amp with the low sub filtered out and the treble/presence frequency areas boosted slightly. Would be interesting to hear the plugin with the bass turned up and treble/presence turned down slightly to see just how close to the amp it could get. Very good job by Softube overall though.
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Another great video Euge!
Thanks James!
Love the video, playing is perfect, tone is perfect, all is good, my only feedback is the "snappy" drums, felt a bit uncomfortable in my headphones, might just be me, but i suggest you use a faster attack on your drums buss compressor in your future videos. Good luck mate!
Great tone and playing. Softube have stepped it up with this one.
Thanks! Indeed! 👌🔥
Very impressive! They have way more in common that I would have thought! More similar than different!
Well done!
Cool, thanks!
this comparison is really cool, you already did the test with softube marshall 1959 plex, that's why I would like to know if you can play Malmsteen with him using a Malmsteen pedal.
Thanks!
I haven't done it but will do in the future.
I guess to be able to play Yngwie one needs to have the skills first and foremost and I'm pretty sure no gear in the world could help with that ;-).
But jokes aside; I guess with a Strat, a Plexi and an overdrive you'll get at least a tone similar to YJM.
Always great playing man, i like your style.
Thanks Ramo!
To be honest only I heard was a little bit of depth defference between amp and plugin in the power-chord part, but I would say is almost 95% to 98% the same really incredible amp.
Indeed 👌.
Great job my Friend. Next step is to hear it in THE MIX ?
Thanks! There is a song with drums & bass in the beginning of the video 😉.
It’s just my ”demo” mix since I’m not a professional mixing engineer but should give an idea 😎👍.
Sounds great bro!!!!
Thanks!
You are wellcome E!!!!
Thing is... with a real amp, I can turn my tone knob down 1 number, switch pickups, or change volume and it responds and changes sound so much more than a sim. I think tones are pretty good on the sims now, but they still don’t beat playing the real deal. I would like to see what the plug-in sounds like through a real cabinet through a fryette or something....lol. Great videos !
I agree 👌.
Thanks!
21:18 haha, not sure if confused or the plugin is too good
Both 😁
Amp wins. Even though the plugin is louder.
Hi Euge, the comparisson in the track. did i miss something? Greetings, Gunnar
Ah you meant comparison in the mix. Sorry my bad :-)
The song is just the plugin. But it's like in general: it depends on the mix I guess - if / when there's a low cut / hi pass filter on the guitars (to make "room" for bass) or some EQ going on etc. you really can't tell the difference.
I got the same plugin, but doesn't sounds remotely as close to yours. Your sound is awesome, specially with SD-1. Maybe the external pedal is the trick?
Most of the sound is in the hands of the player and amps / plugins etc. amplifies that but that being said the SD-1 is indeed a key element of my tone / sound. With real amps & with plugins 😎👌.
Great stuff !
Thanks!
I currently live on a sailboat so I don't really have room for the Marshall, even my 1/4 stack is in storage for now-- so I'm downloading the trial unit for my iMac. Speaking of SoftTube products, have you tried their Acoustic Feedback yet? Btw, I enjoyed your comparisons of the real Marshall amps like the JTM45 and 1287X.
Pepita new feet are starting to wear, because he is always dancing to your music :)
He is indeed 😊
Great video and really interesting. The plug-in is very good. With the chugging metal riffs the plug-in holds up pretty well, though it has less depth than the real amp to my ears. Where I noticed a bigger difference was when you switched to the firebird shape guitar and played some bluesy lead. The plug-in has to my ears an annoying kind of fizzy hollow character, kind of sounds a bit artificial. I had to listen hard. Probably if I was playing it myself it would be easier to pick out. Saying that most people maybe wouldn’t notice a difference.
Cheers
Thanks!
Well said 👌.
But I’m very impressed about it. At one point I thought that I was playing with the amp but I wasn’t 😊.
Yeah it’s impressive and really useful I bet. In the video you talked about speakers and using V30’s. I’ve tried G12t75’s, G12H30’s and G12M25’s, though my current faves with an 800 are a cab with G12 65’s from 79. Have you tried these?
I haven’t tried those but I’ve heard good things about them.
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Hi Love your Videos; -) when will you do the softube bluesbreaker und marshall plexi Amp sims ;-) ? Cheers.
Thanks! Soon 😉
@@EugeValovirta230V cheers ;-)
Hello Euge, since I know you are a great connoisseur of the authentic marshall sound, I am very very interested to know what you think of the sims amps from the Nembrini Firm, and especially their latest creation, Mrh 159 (based on a superlead). opinion that it looks more like the real Nembrini mrh 159 or softube 2203 amplifiers and in all its amps in general that you think Nembrini compared to softube. Thank you, I really like your channel, we share similar tastes in everything related to the guitar and their sound Greetings.
Cool thanks ;-) i actually have them all on the uad Plattform :-) really interesting how you made the Demos and the Sound is great. I just subscribed keep up the good work ;-) just one question on the Silver jubilee Plug-in i find the highs a little fizzy. I guess then an EQ at the and of the Chain helps? Thanks again. Henrik
Oh cool! Glad to hear! Thanks Henrik🙏.
Yeah that’s the Jube character and the EQ helps if needed. The tone knobs are really sensitive like on a real amp and just a minor tweak affects the sound lot more than most of other Marshalls.
@@EugeValovirta230V you are welcome ;-) thanks a Lot again for your answer. Ok now I better understand that the jubilee is more sensitive than other amps ;-) cheers
👌😎
can you share any of the marshall settings with the yellow drive? I find it difficult to dial, its missing theharmanic frequency range you get from Real speakers and air (of course its a plug in ) but I was hoping for the basic ACDC and SD1 Syke's Marshall tone
Level almost maxed, Tone between 13-15 o’clock according to taste, Drive barely open so it just adds a bit 🤟.
Marshall settings: I don’t have, just dial whatever sounds good and what I’m looking for in a given situation / mix. But in general: usually lots of everything 🤟.
@@EugeValovirta230V hey thanks for been cool, the thing is imm into the randy rhoads zack thing too but cant decidde between a sd1 or mxr d+, have you compared the MXR or Zack MXRs to the SD1?
🤟. Yeah: ua-cam.com/video/nVgpc4Pp7Sk/v-deo.html
The real one chugs much better. The plugin version has a weird distortion wobble to it (like all the other amp sims). But it is still damn close ! 🙂
👌
Nice video!, good job!
Thanks!
Sounds like you’d need to double track the 2203 plug-in to get the same depth as a single tracked real tube jcm800.
There is a slight but very noticeable difference between the two.
It’s very slight 👌😎.
Sounds like the amp is a bit more pushed (maybe gain is higher?). Other than that, they pretty much sound identical...
That could be ’cos the plugin was modelled after a certain 2203 which isn’t obviously the one that I have 😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V I believe that if you increase the plugin gain, they will be indistinguishable. Great video nevertheless! Thanks!
🙏👌
merci rastaman
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thought the zw was a little rounder in the lows and the jmp a little tighter. could it be the difference in "tubes", or real vs fake? i don't really care.
you'll love this with different cabs. i prefer the softube marshall greenback cab, but your bogrens should work fine.
great work, as always. glad to see you enjoyed yourself so much. you thinking about the plexi or bluesbreaker yet?
Me neither 😊.
Thanks! Yes I am 😎👌.
Hej Hej Euge, thats great video and work! thanks, may i ask have you evet try amplitube 5 or did you check some compariosson? between softube vs amplitube5?
Thanks
Thanks!
I haven’t tried the Amplitube stuff.
Nice euge!
I have the chance to get one.
What is it worth? What would u pay?
Thanks!
Can’t remember the price but it’s on Softube’s website. I’d pay the price, which is quite cheap compared to a real amp 👌😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V I mean the real JMP 2203 Amp! Not the Software
Ah sorry 😁. I haven’t checked in a while what they’re worth nowadays but since those are considered vintage amps I’d assume the prices are between 1.5 to 2K € depending on the condition of the amp. Which sounds reasonable to me.
Killer, do you agree the JMP is better than the 800's?
Nope. Just personal preferences. In my experience JMP 2203s have always been a bit smoother and 800 2203s a bit more aggressive. I have three (two from the 80s and Zakk Wylde signature from 2000s) 800 2203s and I used to own a ’79 JMP 2203. Softube has done great work emulating both amps 🤟.
Hello Euge, how are you? What would you say would bring me closer to a real amplifier sound on the computer: softube marshall jmp 2203 or Friedman BE-OD connected directly to the interface and adding an IR to it as the only post pedal process (both cases would be pushed with a sd-1 boss) Thanks for your time Euge.
All good thanks! The Friedman is great and I’ve used one live many years but Softube’s Marshall emulations are so good that it’s really hard to tell the difference anymore; they just don’t sound like a Marshall but also behave like one when you increase the master volume especially past noon 👌.
Hi Euge, İ have some latecy issue with that softube amp on 2i2, may i ask whats yours when recording or playing i did 64-32 but still hear some delays...many thanks bu the way its awesome! ı use amplitube amps but softube did it! gratz
Hi man,
There’s always a bit with plugins but I just ignore it 😎.
It's Amazing!
Yeah!
The Softube plug-ins sound really good. Maybe some of the best there are. There useful. But a real tube amp is alive. It breaths and puts out tone in a way that you can feel in your bones. The plug-ins replicate, but aren't the real thing. I look at like pizza. There's real good pizza shop pizza, and then there's frozen. Some of the frozen is pretty good, but it still isn't good pizza shop pizza. The plug-ins make it quick and easy to get a good recording tone for me. I just want to plug in at times and not have to deal with setting up mics and getting it right.
They are really good but the real deal is obviously always a real deal.
But it isn't necessarily always the best; I mean I've played for example with some really horrible sounding rental 800s on some festival shows and would've preferred much more something like this instead.
I guess that's why I haven't played a (rented) tube amp since 2017 but used Friedman BE-OD as my amp and Neunaber Iconoclast as my cab / mic'd speaker emulator directly to the mixing desk and to my in-ears. Sounds and feels fantastic and the sound is the same night after night :-)
@@EugeValovirta230V I think a lot of it if not all of it unless they modded the amp is the tubes that were in it. Tubes as you know play such a huge part in how the amp sounds and feels. I change my tubes out in new amps I buy almost immediately. These days I use a lot of JJ'S, but mixing and matching preamp tubes really let's you shape the tone. I wonder if they used Soviet tubes. There so harsh to me.
Yeah it was usually the tubes but clean sounds were usually good (especially on metal festivals😊) so I started to use first the BE-OD into amps clean channels and then I switched to my current non-amp live setup.
@@EugeValovirta230V That makes it easy I'm sure. Flying with gear is hard these days. And the smaller and lighter the rig the better. A lot of guys seem to be going with using small tube combos miked and direct, but whatever works for you is what matters and it's nice to have so many options these days.
Indeed 👌😎
Amazing!
Thanks!
Hi Euge, what are the mic settings when you are using jens IR , using mc 1 and 2 on the rigth side? or just one i dont know jens used 2 mic on the cab, what do you think?
He used several mics, speakers & cabinets to create the IRs and then EQ’d them to his liking. And mine too 😎👌.
@@EugeValovirta230V I mean on the softube marshall plug in there are 2 mics with several option, if we are gonna go with 3rd IR , choose bottom of the menu, but mentioned 2 mics are still activated status my question is if we go for 3rd IR shoud we use 2 activated mic or just one , i hope i can explain now😀😀 if no i ll send a screenshot to you
Aa ok. If I use a third party IR I just bypass the mics / cab section completely from the Softube. Jens’ IRs works best on their own IMO 👌.
For a "hobbyist" who still plays many hours a day (at home), would you recommend a plugin or a real amp with a cab & attenuator? Been using plugins for years but I kinda feel like getting a real amp again. Not sure if it's worth the trouble though.
The plugins are really good nowadays and I used them a long time at home before I got the Suhr Reactive Load and I gotta say that the real thing is always a real thing 💪😎. I mean you can get from point A to B with a Nissan Micra but it’s a lot more entertaining to do with a Ford Mustang 😊.
@@EugeValovirta230V Great answer!
😊🙏
What do you think of Juno Manta-Raunus
Juho Ranta-Maunus you meant? 😉
I think he is already a great player (despite his young age) and will become even better 👌. Fantastic young man🎼👍🔥.
Cabinet simulator on the amp? Isn't this "digitalifying" the real amp too?
At the end of the day everything in recorded music is digitalised since we hardly record to analog tape and then press the masters to vinyl anymore.
Audio interface converts the signal from AD to DI so that a computer & DAW can ”understand” it so there goes the analog path already 😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V I know those facts...I put it in apostrophes because I meant that it might take a fakeness in the feeling like the plugin amp has, most of the time was kinda annoying to my ears even if some times I thought it was the amplifier ... Although I took a look at the IR thing and saw that is pretty close to what the cab sounds so I know that the sound isn't downgraded through one...
😎👌
wow most amp simps come off a bit dull and rubbery lol This UAD model has snarl and presence that's pretty much the signature sound but the cab body feels a bit unnatural, but in a mix with maybe a good mid boost like use the Helios mid range, you'll never know. No wonder all the big studios are selling off their consoles and out board gear.
Softube = Marshall Code amp? MST technology
Not sure but they’ve done many things together so could be indeed 👌.
Nothing beats the real thing man. I’ve wasted so much time trying to get on with digital solutions but it just never gives me satisfaction. Great tool, but just jumps out as not authentic to my ears
Yeah the real deal is always a real deal but I’m quite surprised how good some of the ”artificial” ones are nowadays. Especially Softube has done a really great job on their Marshall ones 😎👌.
@@EugeValovirta230V agreed, softube guys know what they’re doing. I just think its not possible to get 100% there with the current tech. I use ampsims mainly for practice to not waste the tubes.
Not sure if it’s ever possible 😊. I’ve used amp sims along with real amps on many albums I’ve recorded in the last few years but mainly I use them for songwriting, demoing and just playing.
Sorry, no. Neural DSP kicks Softube's behind EASILY. Try the Fortin Nameless and Omega.
Neural stuff is great. And they’re my fellow countrymen so can’t say anything else 😎. Can’t recall them having any Marshall plugins but the stuff they’re doing is absolutely fantastic. But again; nothing beats the real deal 💪😉.