What's up Everybody! Welcome to Torque Junkies, today I review the WRX and the GTI and I find out which three letter word takes the crown today! Enjoy!
@@LilNuGGzzy Fanboys fantasies are so adorable. By the way you heard that VW dropped their "People's warranty" back down to 4 years because the cost of warranty work was killing them. I guess too many people getting "tune ups".
@@Kevbo75 Lul talking about fanboys? obviously ur a subaru fan. cant tell you how many people i know who have blown their "boxer engine." you know why they call it that? Cus its always punching holes in the block.
@@LilNuGGzzy ; I actually have enjoined many car through the years but presently own a WRX. I am willing to bet that all the people you know have vastly over boasted the cars or drive like idiots or most likely both. This seems to be the MO for most blown engines regardless of make.
You hit the nail on the head with the throttle response. I had had my heart set on a WRX for a long time, and spent months learning about them to the point I knew more than the salespeople at the dealer. I test drove a couple and had a blast in them, but the turbo lag is really noticeable. A buddy of mine bugged me to test drive a GTI for months while I was looking at the WRX, and when I finally did, my mind was made. I walked out with a 2017 GTI later that week. The GTI isn't the fastest car on the stable, but its power band just makes it a blast to drive. Still considering a WRX as my next car, but it may have to compete with the Golf R.
The GTI steering wheel looks plasticy after a year? Mine was 5 yrs old when I sold it and the steering wheel looked brand new so not sure what your talking about there.
Steve I know that. He could’ve at least mentioned something about the soundaktor rather than calling the engine noise fake. If you unplug or disable the soundaktor, is the engine sound real or fake? That’s what I’m trying to get at.
The sound modifer that the GTI's have isn't really a speaker, it's a vibrator under the windshield cowl, when you punch it the thing starts spinning to make the windshield vibrate letting more engine noise in the cabin, does not use the Fender system for the fake sound.
Well, one is coming very soon! We just posted a video yesterday of the MK 8 GTI and as soon as we can get our hands on the new WRX we will posted a video vs each other.
@@BigbirdJohnson old question, but I’ll answer. Have owned my ‘17 wrx over a year and it’s not great for long drives. Seating position is uncomfortable except when fairly vertical and steering is responsive to the point where you have to be more attentive than relaxed. Great car, but not made for long highway trips. Sports car vs GT
I enjoyed your video, thanks! As someone who has owned both Subarus and VW's, I really appreciate both cars. Incidentally, I still have my 2003 GTI VR6 after 19 years (original owner)! Probably the most reliable car I, or anyone in my family has ever owned. Still fun to drive too (even though it's a MK4, LOL)! The leather interior with the red on blue instrumentation is a joy to behold. Cheers!
I have a 2017 wrx and I love it. I have a 12 mile 120 minute commute in bumper to bumper traffic every day. I got into an accident earlier this year which was a powerful head on collision. I ended up with a torn rotator cuff and 3 herniated discs but I lived (I was in a 2003 wrx) which saved my life. I'm thinking of getting a GTI for the comfort and quietness for my daily commute. I think this was a fair review and did not show any bias.
Love my MK7 autobahn with the performance package and dcc. The lighting package is a must. DSG wins races in my opinion. You can actually feel the difference between the comfort and sport modes for the suspension and steering unlike similar cars. Gets 35mpg all day on the highway too.
It's not so much that it's fake. Outside the car you'd be hearing that noise. It's just letting the noise from the engine get into the car through something called a soundaktor that is up near the wipers. In fact if you don't have it in sport mode then it's pretty much the real deal. I disconnected mine and it made no difference in normal mode, but when I put it in sport mode the sound doesn't get louder anymore.
I agree I love the subtlety of the gti compared to the wrx. My 17 gti was my first manual and vehicle I got to choose every aspect. My wife and I loved the exposed car seat latches and rear a.c. vents for our first child due in March. I just love the fact that I can look like I'm just driving a regular vehicle but if I decide to, I can really haul ass.
i've always loved the gti but that subaru is really good too...i went with the gti and i'm not at all disappointed. for everyday use and the occasional track day the gti is perfect. i suppose you could argue the same about the gti but the dsg sold it for me. it makes it livable in inner city traffic and it's enough fun when pushing it to the limit. i also like the fact that it's very easy to modify
These were my 2 cars I was shopping for, 2014 WRX Hatchback or 2016 GTI, and have I already experienced rides in WRX the 2014 Hatchback was the same problem, rattles, road noise, just did not like way interior is put together, and yes a flat four will handle much better than inline transverse mounted. you are correct about the steering wheel on GTI, how it kind of goes plastic with age. Like you have had GTI's in the past so bought 2016 GTI.
Hey, nice review! How does the fuel consumption compares against each other though? In a city commuting environment where there are a lot of traffic lights. Thank you~
I have a GTI and want to get rid of it because lots of power in FWD sucks. Especially up north you can't use the power. If I am pulling out of a side street or if it's raining the wheels just spin and the car won't move. Even in a straight line on dry pavement in the winter going 20 to 30 mph I can light up the tires. I've even felt them breaking free straight line at almost 50.
Like both as well. I have a gti in same trim except manual, and jb4 😁 can’t complain about much! Except the sound compare to the Subaru, and the fact that if someone pulls up next to me at the light... I can’t go full throttle until 40 mph or I roast my tires 😂
Power delivery is huge. My GTI is a much more fun car to drive than my WRX was. GTI has that near instant down low punch, the WRX needs to be wound out, and that sort of sucks in traffic and on crowded city streets.
Interesting. Considering a WRX but heard people chatting about the GTI. I have heard with a turboback/tune on the WRX it's basically instant torque though.
@@MeltingRubberZ28 That's incredibly misleading. WRX's, SPECIFICALLY the 2015+ models have a twin scroll setup. My 2018 starts building boost as early as 2000, and bring immediate torque, nearly to the max rating by the time I get to 3000 RPM. I've heard people say the newer 2015+ WRX feel slower than the older ones, that's entirely placebo, people only say that because of the sudden torque surge you feel with older models, the 2015+ WRX's are just as fast, if not, faster, the power delivery is just a lot more smooth than sudden, which gives the implication of it being slow. The 2015+ WRX is a car people pick over the STi when it comes to usable city torque, and that alone is enough for people. I'm sure the GTI is a fantastic car, I just don't agree the car is any quicker than the WRX when it comes to usable city torque.
@@mehsomething I found the need to wind it out comment odd. My wrx in stock trim has instant torque. Many passengers comment that it feels like a v8. That fa20 makes peak torque at 2k… not a typical turbo lag engine.
Why Didn’t u mention anything about the DSG tranny and it’s lightning fast shifts in the gti? Shifts are instantaneous! And the better gas mileage... Gti is my choice✌🏼
If you are buying used, the GTI is a way better bargain. For a 2016 you can get one for less than 20k, while a WRX will be 25K+ for the same miles. Also the GTI is better on gas. If you want extra power, you can get a tune for $500 and get an extra 60hp, which puts it past the wrx. Also nicer interior, more cargo space, and apple car play. It’s a no brainer for me. Unless you live somewhere that snows A LOT. PS don’t buy a 2019 GTI. They are having problems with stalling randomly while coming up to a stop.
just got my 2018 wrx early this month and loving it! i think either option is fun and great, however if i choose between all wheel drive and front wheel drive its all wheel all day! Thanks for the vid!
Guided Hand congratz! Nameless has some nice cat back and axle back exhaust options. Unfortunately you really cant do much without risk of losing your power train warranty.
Jack Temps that's what I was thinking saying that I'm planning to get a car in the last 1/4 of the year. I just wanted to hear what others thought of my plan
Since 2006 I’ve owned a 92’ mk 2 gti. She was my first love. An 02’ mk 4 golf this car was a lemon, two mk 6 Jetta’s 2014/2016 not a bad drive, got rid of the 2014 and gave the 2016 to the lady. I just bought a 2018 WRX and it’s way better than anything I’ve personally owned. This is coming from a true VW enthusiast.
I went from a 07 sti to a 17 wrx. The wrx steering wheel hurt my hands at first, guess the wheel bigger bigger than normal. Yes , this turbo legs alot bit when it kicks in, it's like wtf, wow. The radio needs replacing, keeps not recognizing my phone. Cars turns like a go cart
I had a 2013 GTI and now a 2015 WRX. The GTI was great but had annoying reliability issues. The drivers side door sensor did not work which led to other issues (dead battery a couple of times). It burned a quart of oil every three weeks. VW parts are super expensive.The WRX so far has been rock solid.
Graziano Ciampa nah golf r is still fwd based with the ability to send power to the rear when needed. Not comparable to a true symmetrical awd system like in the Subaru
I drive a MKV GTI, 6 speed manual. I really enjoy the car, though I do hate the fake sound. I know the car is an I4, the sound doesn’t fool anyone who is into cars. But, I love hatchbacks and it is among the best year in and year out. I hope to drive mine for many years to come.
The WRX has the greater hp but the GTI weighs significantly less and has a much faster gear shift. I’ve yet to beat a WRX when my GTI was stock but I never really lost either. With a stage 1 APR tune it can toast a WRX.
I can't stop watching these comparison videos and I still cannot decide between going with a 2019 GTI or a 2019 WRX. I'm leaning towards the WRX for AWD (I live in Seattle and I feel the AWD would be more beneficial out here in the long run) but I have heard that for daily commuters the GTI is overall a better pick with its overall nicer interior and tech...along with better insulation from road noise. I'm torn.... I'm going with automatic transmission for the record (hate all you want but, I just never learned to drive manual)
Kira Z I have a mk5 gti and with winter tires it’s just as good as either of my parents cars which r both awd. Live in Pittsburgh btw. Plus yeah it’s got a nicer interior and better gas mileage and if u get a tune it’s faster than a wrx all while being waaaaay cheaper for insurance
Yes Ive been deciding between these 2 cars as well but I’m going with the gti because honestly all around the wrx doesn’t even come close and this is coming from a subie fanboy
Torque Junkies I'm in Albuquerque. Nm. So we do get snow in the winter, but usually not a lot. I drive about 18 miles to work. I do have kids, a 4 year old And 2 teenage stepdaughters. I may be being promoted at my work. If that happens I would be using my car for work anywhere from 60 to 100 miles a day. I testdrove the focus st and loved it. Also been a fan of gti amd wrx for a long time but have never driven. I do love spirited driving, accelerating fast and love cornering fast (without kiddos) mainly I mostly only pick up my 4 year old most days.
Gabriel Fuoco I would say you are better off with the WRX. The GTI is also a great option when thinking of your kids but I would rule out the si, it's not in the same league like it used to with these guys and the Ford Focus ST while fun it has terrible torque steer
nyhunter256 I think about 6 more months and ill be able to pull the trigger. I'm actually leaning towards a 2019 vw gti. They come with a 6 year bumper to bumper warranty(72,000 miles). Been researching for the last year. Also I know a few people who own mk7 and they have been trouble free. I'm definitely gonna have to test drive all the competition this summer and see which car wets my whistle lol
Mike A for the gti I’m betting off getting the dsg. Yes I love manual and people will say “oh your not a car guy anymore because your not driving manual” but it is faster which is what I would rather have.
Nice review, thank you. Is it me or does this guy look/sound like John Leguizamo? Believe there’s potentially a stand in job for you in Hollywood. Cheers.
I'm looking to downsize to something better on fuel than the 19 mpg I'm currently getting with my 08 awd Infiniti, driving 80+ miles a day. My wife's car is an LMS tuned 17 Fusion Sport and I love driving it and really want another sporty car for me. I test drove the WRX and the GTI, and think both are great cars. My wife likes the looks of the WRX, but I'd prefer to have the DSG auto for the commute. Other concern I have is around here I see WRX and STI's pulled over more than anything, total cop magnet here. Also drove the Focus ST which I really like the looks, but the Recaro seats suck and it felt unstable getting on it coming out of an S-turn during a test drive. I'm leaning towards the GTI Sport if I can get my wife to buy off on it. Looking to stay under $25000 and I'm seeing some great end of year deals going on right now.
They're both great cars. Go with the one that suits your personality better. I went with a gti mk 7.5 in deep black pearl because Im not a teenager anymore
Kris Simon Kris Simon I’m 17 years old and have been saving to get one of these. In my opinion the wrx looks a lot better but the gti all around is a better car than a wrx. With the gti i can get a tune and easily make around 300 whp. The only problem that I’m worried about is the reliability on a gti. How is your gti holding up so far?
Got the WRX, tested my buddies stage 2 WRX but felt really bored from the lack of drama of no rumble and sounding like a civic fart can. Traded to the STi
I think if you take care of the steering wheel it won't turn "rubbery" VW offers their own cleaners and they aren't too expensive when you compare it with quality brand cleaners.
Nice vid, thanks. Well, since I have an '18 WRX limited, I'll have to say WRX. However I know what you mean about the class factor and fit and finish of the VW. I think if I went that route I'd get an Audi though.
Mr. Gentry to be honest I haven't driven either. lol, but my intentions is to purchase a WRX limited. Ok cool the seconds may not be accurate, but all the other videos I seen on youtube about the WRX stated the current year model is slower than the previous gen is because the adding of the extra 6th gear. Trust I watch a lot of videos!!
I've driven Golf Gti and Wrx and Golf R and Sti. My preference is the Golf R, however out of the two subis I'd take the stock Wrx, as the power delivery is more linear. The Sti has to be driven hard to get the most out of it and most of us will never drive that hard on a day to day basis.
The 3rd-gen VW EA888 turbo 2.0L engine according to APR's dyno is running 235 hp and 270 ft-lbs (both crankshaft ratings) with the stock car. VW under-rates the power. With a simple flash-only tune, APR (stage 1) brings that up to 305 hp and 371 ft-lb (crank).
Lifted_Above Ik that’s crazy I want to get one for my first car but my dad said he’s not going to help me buy any German car🤦🏻♂️. I can got a 2016 for like 16k and mod it, I will have a lot of power with a premium build.
@@brendanfogel4573 Can't help your dad understand that cars by National names aren't build in the same places. For instance, from one source: BMW 3-series: South Africa Volkwagen Polo: South Africa Audi Q7: Slovak Republic Volkwagen Toureg: Slovak Republic BMW X-5: USA Mercedes Benz ML & GL: USA Audi Q3: Spain Renault Fluence & Koleos: South Korea Audi A3: Hungary Dodge Journey: Mexico Volkswagen Jetta: Mexico Volkswagen Scirroco: Portugal Volkswagen Eos: Portugal Volkswagen Caddy: Poland Volkswagen Amarok: Argentina Toyota Hilux: Thailand Nissan Navara: Thailand Ford Ranger: Thailand Holden Colorado: Thailand Mitsubishi Triton: Thailand Mazda BT-50: Thailand Isuzu D-Max: Thailand Fiat 500: Poland Renault Megane: Turkey Audi TT: Hungary Dodge Challenger: Canada
I picked GTI due to better equipment for the money compared to WRX, bigger brakes, Xenon lights. But mainly due to double clutch vs CVT for auto. I need a daily so manual is out of question. Yes, WRX have better grip on wet, snow surfaces, but for straight line power GTI and good tires are good enough. plus GTI gets 38MPG around city when I'm not hooning around and takes 87 gas.
Good quality interior from the WRX? Sorry I love the wrx way more than the GTI, but all subarus have fairly cheap interiors. Its one of the MAJOR difference between it and the german GTI. The plastic pieces may hold up ok, but it rattles and shakes and is not all that pleasing. Part of the reason its such a great value!
I concur. I don’t own any of these car, but agree with your logic. Everyday use is the magic word. Unless you are rich enough to have a car just to sit around like a pair of shoes for the special occasion. I had a BMW Z4 coupe with sports package. It means larger wheels, also unequal. Bigger tires in the rear. Equals no tire rotation, so tires don’t last as long. Higher top speed, where am I going to do the 155mph in SoCal? Soft alloy wheel. Potholes may damage the alloy wheel. LA has some really bad pot holes. Stiff suspension, my wife refused to ride in my Z4, or my mistress as my wife calls it. I guess she was pregnant at the time, that didn’t help with big belly having to bend down to getting into a low sports car. Finally my wife convinced me to get rid of it to get a MBZ SUV so it can chauffeur our baby with safety and absorb all the potholes.
I love Subaru’s probably my favorite car but for a daily it’s the gti all the way. I’ve been deciding between both and yeah I’m probably passing on my dream car because the gti is so damn good in every aspect
A bit of a mis-match here, really. The GTI is not a high performance car, nor is it supposed to be. If you want the high performance version, then get the Golf R with over 300 PS. The GTI is the performer for everyday driving. It's running costs and insurance are low. It is great to drive but it is not set up to be a hyper-hatch.
Where my gti fans at.
The repair shop?
@@Kevbo75 Yea getting some tune ups. While you're waiting for your new engine because your rod shot through your block.
@@LilNuGGzzy Fanboys fantasies are so adorable. By the way you heard that VW dropped their "People's warranty" back down to 4 years because the cost of warranty work was killing them. I guess too many people getting "tune ups".
@@Kevbo75 Lul talking about fanboys? obviously ur a subaru fan. cant tell you how many people i know who have blown their "boxer engine." you know why they call it that? Cus its always punching holes in the block.
@@LilNuGGzzy ; I actually have enjoined many car through the years but presently own a WRX. I am willing to bet that all the people you know have vastly over boasted the cars or drive like idiots or most likely both. This seems to be the MO for most blown engines regardless of make.
You hit the nail on the head with the throttle response. I had had my heart set on a WRX for a long time, and spent months learning about them to the point I knew more than the salespeople at the dealer. I test drove a couple and had a blast in them, but the turbo lag is really noticeable.
A buddy of mine bugged me to test drive a GTI for months while I was looking at the WRX, and when I finally did, my mind was made. I walked out with a 2017 GTI later that week.
The GTI isn't the fastest car on the stable, but its power band just makes it a blast to drive. Still considering a WRX as my next car, but it may have to compete with the Golf R.
There’s an easy tune for that
The GTI steering wheel looks plasticy after a year? Mine was 5 yrs old when I sold it and the steering wheel looked brand new so not sure what your talking about there.
Awd not 4wd
I know, should see it soon!
AWD not 4 wheel drive. Even though 4 wheels are driving it. Semantics I tell you!
@@exothermal.sprocketSemantics, true. The result is still very similar.
Thanks to manufacturers and their craziness, there's literally dozens of drive systems in cars, called a half dozen different things.
When you talk I dont get a sense that you really know anything at all about cars.
Lol. "Sounds fake". I guess that GTI engine isn't real then?
@@TheMarkoPoloProgram The GTI does use a device called a soundaktor to produce synthetic engine sounds
Steve I know that. He could’ve at least mentioned something about the soundaktor rather than calling the engine noise fake. If you unplug or disable the soundaktor, is the engine sound real or fake? That’s what I’m trying to get at.
It sounds like it's about to blow up
Mark Mangaliman very few cars sound better than a Subaru, no GTI sounds better than a Subaru that’s for sure
The sound modifer that the GTI's have isn't really a speaker, it's a vibrator under the windshield cowl, when you punch it the thing starts spinning to make the windshield vibrate letting more engine noise in the cabin, does not use the Fender system for the fake sound.
Do you have any articles that back you up? This makes more sense to me.
@@camiloaviles8130 I own two he totally right
My first car was a 92’ gti. I currently own a tastefully modded 2018 WRX. I love both cars.
I’d love to see a modern comparison of the 2021 outgoing gti and wrx.
Agreed
Well, one is coming very soon! We just posted a video yesterday of the MK 8 GTI and as soon as we can get our hands on the new WRX we will posted a video vs each other.
I am looking at both vehicles, but have two rear facing car seats that need to fit. Which do you recommend?
Excellent video! I like the 5 second clips (too funny). I love the color on WRX and red stitching on the seats of both cars.
Orlando J Vlogs thank you! Me too!
I bought the WRX in July 2016 and love it!
Jean Bastarache congrats 🎈🎉🎊🍾
How is the seat comfort, considering buying one but I do get lower back pain on long drives
@@BigbirdJohnson old question, but I’ll answer. Have owned my ‘17 wrx over a year and it’s not great for long drives. Seating position is uncomfortable except when fairly vertical and steering is responsive to the point where you have to be more attentive than relaxed. Great car, but not made for long highway trips. Sports car vs GT
I enjoyed your video, thanks! As someone who has owned both Subarus and VW's, I really appreciate both cars. Incidentally, I still have my 2003 GTI VR6 after 19 years (original owner)! Probably the most reliable car I, or anyone in my family has ever owned. Still fun to drive too (even though it's a MK4, LOL)! The leather interior with the red on blue instrumentation is a joy to behold. Cheers!
Oh wow! I think the MK 4 aged very nicely.
I have a 2017 wrx and I love it. I have a 12 mile 120 minute commute in bumper to bumper traffic every day. I got into an accident earlier this year which was a powerful head on collision. I ended up with a torn rotator cuff and 3 herniated discs but I lived (I was in a 2003 wrx) which saved my life. I'm thinking of getting a GTI for the comfort and quietness for my daily commute. I think this was a fair review and did not show any bias.
Arthur Aldeguer thank you! Glad that you're ok from your accident.
12 miles in 2 hours ...?
If I’m reading that right then why don’t you just ride a bike? That’s absurd
How come my wrx cvt does not make that nice exhaust sound as the manual one u drove in thevvideo?
Love my MK7 autobahn with the performance package and dcc. The lighting package is a must. DSG wins races in my opinion. You can actually feel the difference between the comfort and sport modes for the suspension and steering unlike similar cars. Gets 35mpg all day on the highway too.
It's not so much that it's fake. Outside the car you'd be hearing that noise. It's just letting the noise from the engine get into the car through something called a soundaktor that is up near the wipers. In fact if you don't have it in sport mode then it's pretty much the real deal. I disconnected mine and it made no difference in normal mode, but when I put it in sport mode the sound doesn't get louder anymore.
I agree I love the subtlety of the gti compared to the wrx. My 17 gti was my first manual and vehicle I got to choose every aspect. My wife and I loved the exposed car seat latches and rear a.c. vents for our first child due in March. I just love the fact that I can look like I'm just driving a regular vehicle but if I decide to, I can really haul ass.
That wrx sounds like its got a resonated pipe??
i've always loved the gti but that subaru is really good too...i went with the gti and i'm not at all disappointed. for everyday use and the occasional track day the gti is perfect. i suppose you could argue the same about the gti but the dsg sold it for me. it makes it livable in inner city traffic and it's enough fun when pushing it to the limit. i also like the fact that it's very easy to modify
The Subaru WRX and Volkswagen Golf GTI.❤️
There my two favorite cars and I loved the comparison. Great video and keep up the great content 😁👍
That was good buddy. Keep it going. 🖒 (own a gti myself. 230 hp in Ireland)
Thanks so much!
Great review & very thorough. I liked your observation that you felt the slightly slower car felt faster.
Appreciate that, thanks!!
What do you mean by the sound of the gti being not authentic and the wrx authentic?
These were my 2 cars I was shopping for, 2014 WRX Hatchback or 2016 GTI, and have I already experienced rides in WRX the 2014 Hatchback was the same problem, rattles, road noise, just did not like way interior is put together, and yes a flat four will handle much better than inline transverse mounted. you are correct about the steering wheel on GTI, how it kind of goes plastic with age. Like you have had GTI's in the past so bought 2016 GTI.
my vw wheel looked the same as the day i bought it 5 years later when i couldnt take the cels anymore and traded it in. keep your hands clean.
Hey man, quick question. So my buddy is selling a 2015 GTI SE, fully loaded, with 22k miles on the odometer. Good buy? (DSG)
Yes
He talks so fast yet doesn't say much. I still enjoyed the review though, thank you.
Do you actually take care of the steering wheel? Mine is over a year old and it looks good. Nice review I actually love both cars.
I just ordered the 2019 WRX Sport-tech (Canada model) ice silver metallic; hoping it’ll be a blast. Thanks for making your video :)
Should have bought an Sti
Preferred to the Golfs, but Subaru is also Imprezive !
Haha I see what you did there!
Hey, nice review! How does the fuel consumption compares against each other though? In a city commuting environment where there are a lot of traffic lights. Thank you~
Over all I'll give it to the GTI
Will a stage 1+ fix the turbo lag?
Why so many downvotes, it was a very good and informative comparison.
I have a GTI and want to get rid of it because lots of power in FWD sucks. Especially up north you can't use the power. If I am pulling out of a side street or if it's raining the wheels just spin and the car won't move. Even in a straight line on dry pavement in the winter going 20 to 30 mph I can light up the tires. I've even felt them breaking free straight line at almost 50.
Like both as well. I have a gti in same trim except manual, and jb4 😁 can’t complain about much! Except the sound compare to the Subaru, and the fact that if someone pulls up next to me at the light... I can’t go full throttle until 40 mph or I roast my tires 😂
40? What tires you got lol
Power delivery is huge. My GTI is a much more fun car to drive than my WRX was. GTI has that near instant down low punch, the WRX needs to be wound out, and that sort of sucks in traffic and on crowded city streets.
Interesting. Considering a WRX but heard people chatting about the GTI. I have heard with a turboback/tune on the WRX it's basically instant torque though.
@@MeltingRubberZ28 That's incredibly misleading. WRX's, SPECIFICALLY the 2015+ models have a twin scroll setup. My 2018 starts building boost as early as 2000, and bring immediate torque, nearly to the max rating by the time I get to 3000 RPM. I've heard people say the newer 2015+ WRX feel slower than the older ones, that's entirely placebo, people only say that because of the sudden torque surge you feel with older models, the 2015+ WRX's are just as fast, if not, faster, the power delivery is just a lot more smooth than sudden, which gives the implication of it being slow. The 2015+ WRX is a car people pick over the STi when it comes to usable city torque, and that alone is enough for people. I'm sure the GTI is a fantastic car, I just don't agree the car is any quicker than the WRX when it comes to usable city torque.
@@mehsomething I ended up buying a gli. Definitely have faster power delivery with that one 😉
@@mehsomething I found the need to wind it out comment odd. My wrx in stock trim has instant torque. Many passengers comment that it feels like a v8. That fa20 makes peak torque at 2k… not a typical turbo lag engine.
Nice review. When you live in Chicago the bonus with the Subaru is you can still have fun driving it in snow...
Andrew G Kelly Good point!
Is a Golf R than the Subaru?
Great video!!!! Keep it up!!
Thanks so much madame!
Why Didn’t u mention anything about the DSG tranny and it’s lightning fast shifts in the gti? Shifts are instantaneous! And the better gas mileage... Gti is my choice✌🏼
Looking at 4 vehicles golf GTI Subaru wrx civic SI and the focus ST I’m trying to figure out which one is the most reliable and best
Gti or civic ftw 🙌
I have a 2011 gti and I just bought my first wrx, an ‘18 ☺️
Love the vid mane
GTI is my choice
Great choice!!
Especially with an APR stage 3+ installed. Run with Corvettes.
Dennis Mugambi all you really need is a tune and a k04 turbo and you’ll beat almost anything
Do u want a high performing car that’s reliable? Or do you want a ugly hatchback that’s gunna break down cuz it’s a vw?
I love both cars
Both are great!
I love japanese girls and i love german girls.
Me to. Wrx, gti, si, st, lots of good choices for cheap fun
hit wonda c
Great video as always. I am surprised you think the REX handles better than the GIT.
I am glad you are doing good down there. Stay safe
+Jose Ruiz Thanks man! Yeah the GTI is a better all rounder but the REX has better handling from my experience
Honestly either one would be a blast to daily
I agree!
But what about throwing the 10th gen si into the mix?
@@BigbirdJohnson clutch sucks
Which car costs more?
Car experts don’t usually say “Holy buttons”
Does the US wrx have the 2.0 direct injection twin scroll engine?
Ok it is, I just skipped the part that said that.
This video comparison makes me want to use live jumper cables as nipple clamps
If you are buying used, the GTI is a way better bargain. For a 2016 you can get one for less than 20k, while a WRX will be 25K+ for the same miles. Also the GTI is better on gas. If you want extra power, you can get a tune for $500 and get an extra 60hp, which puts it past the wrx. Also nicer interior, more cargo space, and apple car play. It’s a no brainer for me. Unless you live somewhere that snows A LOT. PS don’t buy a 2019 GTI. They are having problems with stalling randomly while coming up to a stop.
Han Zolo I’ve been deciding between both and yes the wrx is like my dream car but for my first car, the gti have everyone you want in a car
just got my 2018 wrx early this month and loving it! i think either option is fun and great, however if i choose between all wheel drive and front wheel drive its all wheel all day! Thanks for the vid!
Lucky man! Enjoy that car, it's a beast.
GtfoSlaveRS thanks man!
Dang man! That's awesome, congrats! It's an amazing car 🚗
James Kocks I just bought mine yesterday, its insane! I really love it!
Guided Hand congratz! Nameless has some nice cat back and axle back exhaust options. Unfortunately you really cant do much without risk of losing your power train warranty.
Also the insurance is way cheaper on the GTI (difference of about $900/yr for me).
I'm looking at a GTI as an opinion for myself but need something reliable. I've heard mixed things about the GTI but has yours been reliable?
Eli Sommer the new 2018’s have a 70,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty, can’t go wrong there.
Jack Temps so do you think that's enough if I get a year or two old one to get me a solid 6-10 yrs out of it
If you want to buy used, wait a few months for a 2018 to be sold. The warranty is transferable.
Jack Temps that's what I was thinking saying that I'm planning to get a car in the last 1/4 of the year. I just wanted to hear what others thought of my plan
Oh I get you, probably a smart move if you want to save a few thousand with the initial depreciation!
Since 2006 I’ve owned a 92’ mk 2 gti. She was my first love. An 02’ mk 4 golf this car was a lemon, two mk 6 Jetta’s 2014/2016 not a bad drive, got rid of the 2014 and gave the 2016 to the lady. I just bought a 2018 WRX and it’s way better than anything I’ve personally owned. This is coming from a true VW enthusiast.
My question is which one is more reliable on the long run
Obviously the Toyota camry
Jon ahahahahahahha
Japanese, all day
Currently have a mk6 gti, deciding between wrx and mk7 gti... This is hard
Doesn't feel like a decent comparisons between the 2, also if you are talking about the backup camera show us the backup camera instead of the radio..
Thank you hector. Very informative review.
You’re welcome!
I went from a 07 sti to a 17 wrx. The wrx steering wheel hurt my hands at first, guess the wheel bigger bigger than normal. Yes , this turbo legs alot bit when it kicks in, it's like wtf, wow. The radio needs replacing, keeps not recognizing my phone. Cars turns like a go cart
hows the drive of the car?
shit but the knobs on the sound system is orgasmic!
I live in west palm! Will def be stopping by to buy a new 2018 wrx! :D I just hope they have one in wr blue with the performance package!
Imlikethemoviesh awesome!! My buddy Charles works at west palm beach Subaru and is really good and honest.
That's awesome! Whenever i go i will def request him and bring your channel up as bringing me there!
I had a 2013 GTI and now a 2015 WRX. The GTI was great but had annoying reliability issues. The drivers side door sensor did not work which led to other issues (dead battery a couple of times). It burned a quart of oil every three weeks. VW parts are super expensive.The WRX so far has been rock solid.
The fair comparison would be between WRX and Golf R, both AWD.
Personally, I have a 2015 GTI that I love, I just miss the AWD.
Graziano Ciampa nah golf r is still fwd based with the ability to send power to the rear when needed. Not comparable to a true symmetrical awd system like in the Subaru
i'm in 4th going 40mlh and i gotta rev it out hahaha wtf my guy
I drive a MKV GTI, 6 speed manual. I really enjoy the car, though I do hate the fake sound. I know the car is an I4, the sound doesn’t fool anyone who is into cars. But, I love hatchbacks and it is among the best year in and year out. I hope to drive mine for many years to come.
I wanted the gti and wanted to put a bike roof rack on it but I got a different car. Will get one in the near future
Thanks man and good work
People who shift into first before starting the engine, why?
The WRX has the greater hp but the GTI weighs significantly less and has a much faster gear shift. I’ve yet to beat a WRX when my GTI was stock but I never really lost either. With a stage 1 APR tune it can toast a WRX.
NHK Zombie it can toast a lot of cars
I agree WRX is so slow on a drag. But it will be a different story on a track.
I can't stop watching these comparison videos and I still cannot decide between going with a 2019 GTI or a 2019 WRX. I'm leaning towards the WRX for AWD (I live in Seattle and I feel the AWD would be more beneficial out here in the long run) but I have heard that for daily commuters the GTI is overall a better pick with its overall nicer interior and tech...along with better insulation from road noise. I'm torn.... I'm going with automatic transmission for the record (hate all you want but, I just never learned to drive manual)
Kira Z I have a mk5 gti and with winter tires it’s just as good as either of my parents cars which r both awd. Live in Pittsburgh btw. Plus yeah it’s got a nicer interior and better gas mileage and if u get a tune it’s faster than a wrx all while being waaaaay cheaper for insurance
Yes Ive been deciding between these 2 cars as well but I’m going with the gti because honestly all around the wrx doesn’t even come close and this is coming from a subie fanboy
Vw gti, focus st, subaru wrx, or honda civic si? Which should I choose and why?
+Gabriel Fuoco what's your main use for it? Long distance, do you have kids, are you close to work, are you up north or down south etc.
Torque Junkies I'm in Albuquerque. Nm. So we do get snow in the winter, but usually not a lot. I drive about 18 miles to work. I do have kids, a 4 year old
And 2 teenage stepdaughters. I may be being promoted at my work. If that happens I would be using my car for work anywhere from 60 to 100 miles a day. I testdrove the focus st and loved it. Also been a fan of gti amd wrx for a long time but have never driven. I do love spirited driving, accelerating fast and love cornering fast (without kiddos) mainly I mostly only pick up my 4 year old most days.
Gabriel Fuoco I would say you are better off with the WRX. The GTI is also a great option when thinking of your kids but I would rule out the si, it's not in the same league like it used to with these guys and the Ford Focus ST while fun it has terrible torque steer
nyhunter256 I think about 6 more months and ill be able to pull the trigger. I'm actually leaning towards a 2019 vw gti. They come with a 6 year bumper to bumper warranty(72,000 miles). Been researching for the last year. Also I know a few people who own mk7 and they have been trouble free. I'm definitely gonna have to test drive all the competition this summer and see which car wets my whistle lol
Why didn’t you compare the Golf R to the WRX, AWD vs AWD?
There would be a different outcome.
Funky_bottoms i think the golf r is comparable to the sti on the price range and performance.
Reagan Aga yes
Surprised you didn't talk about the DSG gearbox. I prefer manual but that DSG had me in a dilemma when buying my Mk7...
Mike A for the gti I’m betting off getting the dsg. Yes I love manual and people will say “oh your not a car guy anymore because your not driving manual” but it is faster which is what I would rather have.
DSG is fantastic. You'll end forgetting about manual. I'll never regret.
Nice review, thank you. Is it me or does this guy look/sound like John Leguizamo? Believe there’s potentially a stand in job for you in Hollywood. Cheers.
I'm looking to downsize to something better on fuel than the 19 mpg I'm currently getting with my 08 awd Infiniti, driving 80+ miles a day. My wife's car is an LMS tuned 17 Fusion Sport and I love driving it and really want another sporty car for me. I test drove the WRX and the GTI, and think both are great cars. My wife likes the looks of the WRX, but I'd prefer to have the DSG auto for the commute. Other concern I have is around here I see WRX and STI's pulled over more than anything, total cop magnet here. Also drove the Focus ST which I really like the looks, but the Recaro seats suck and it felt unstable getting on it coming out of an S-turn during a test drive. I'm leaning towards the GTI Sport if I can get my wife to buy off on it. Looking to stay under $25000 and I'm seeing some great end of year deals going on right now.
They're both great cars. Go with the one that suits your personality better. I went with a gti mk 7.5 in deep black pearl because Im not a teenager anymore
Kris Simon Kris Simon I’m 17 years old and have been saving to get one of these. In my opinion the wrx looks a lot better but the gti all around is a better car than a wrx. With the gti i can get a tune and easily make around 300 whp. The only problem that I’m worried about is the reliability on a gti. How is your gti holding up so far?
Exhaust sounds good until the electronics controlling it breaks and you get the repair bill.
Got the WRX, tested my buddies stage 2 WRX but felt really bored from the lack of drama of no rumble and sounding like a civic fart can. Traded to the STi
Hi could you do a 2017-2018 vw golf r review soon?
+Brian Reardon as soon as the 2018 Golf R hits the states I will review it :)
I think if you take care of the steering wheel it won't turn "rubbery" VW offers their own cleaners and they aren't too expensive when you compare it with quality brand cleaners.
ive never cleaned a steering wheel. just keep it clean by not getting it dirty.
WRX for me. I got mine ordered!
Imagine ordering a mass produced car
Can you please test drive Subaru brz manual. Thank you
forza388 Yes! I'll review it next week
Torque Junkies thanks love your channel
we got a wrx and the handling in it is sooo good for the price
“Entizing”? You mean enticing? 😉
Nice vid, thanks. Well, since I have an '18 WRX limited, I'll have to say WRX. However I know what you mean about the class factor and fit and finish of the VW. I think if I went that route I'd get an Audi though.
S T for the price you get for this car is great compared to an Audi. Good all around with crazy power jumps just off a tune
The reason why it hit 60 5.2 seconds instead of the older models at 4.9 is because the extra gear for the 6th gear.
That makes sense, thanks for the input!
Terrance Moore no way a stock wrx hits 60 in 5.2, he's quoted the stats for the sti.
Mr. Gentry to be honest I haven't driven either. lol, but my intentions is to purchase a WRX limited. Ok cool the seconds may not be accurate, but all the other videos I seen on youtube about the WRX stated the current year model is slower than the previous gen is because the adding of the extra 6th gear. Trust I watch a lot of videos!!
I've driven Golf Gti and Wrx and Golf R and Sti. My preference is the Golf R, however out of the two subis I'd take the stock Wrx, as the power delivery is more linear. The Sti has to be driven hard to get the most out of it and most of us will never drive that hard on a day to day basis.
Matthew Gentry www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/subaru-0-60-mph-times/ The WRX does 0-60 in 5.2 sec.
The 3rd-gen VW EA888 turbo 2.0L engine according to APR's dyno is running 235 hp and 270 ft-lbs (both crankshaft ratings) with the stock car. VW under-rates the power. With a simple flash-only tune, APR (stage 1) brings that up to 305 hp and 371 ft-lb (crank).
Lifted_Above Ik that’s crazy I want to get one for my first car but my dad said he’s not going to help me buy any German car🤦🏻♂️. I can got a 2016 for like 16k and mod it, I will have a lot of power with a premium build.
@@brendanfogel4573 Can't help your dad understand that cars by National names aren't build in the same places. For instance, from one source:
BMW 3-series: South Africa
Volkwagen Polo: South Africa
Audi Q7: Slovak Republic
Volkwagen Toureg: Slovak Republic
BMW X-5: USA
Mercedes Benz ML & GL: USA
Audi Q3: Spain
Renault Fluence & Koleos: South Korea
Audi A3: Hungary
Dodge Journey: Mexico
Volkswagen Jetta: Mexico
Volkswagen Scirroco: Portugal
Volkswagen Eos: Portugal
Volkswagen Caddy: Poland
Volkswagen Amarok: Argentina
Toyota Hilux: Thailand
Nissan Navara: Thailand
Ford Ranger: Thailand
Holden Colorado: Thailand
Mitsubishi Triton: Thailand
Mazda BT-50: Thailand
Isuzu D-Max: Thailand
Fiat 500: Poland
Renault Megane: Turkey
Audi TT: Hungary
Dodge Challenger: Canada
I picked GTI due to better equipment for the money compared to WRX, bigger brakes, Xenon lights. But mainly due to double clutch vs CVT for auto. I need a daily so manual is out of question. Yes, WRX have better grip on wet, snow surfaces, but for straight line power GTI and good tires are good enough. plus GTI gets 38MPG around city when I'm not hooning around and takes 87 gas.
Good quality interior from the WRX? Sorry I love the wrx way more than the GTI, but all subarus have fairly cheap interiors. Its one of the MAJOR difference between it and the german GTI. The plastic pieces may hold up ok, but it rattles and shakes and is not all that pleasing. Part of the reason its such a great value!
I concur. I don’t own any of these car, but agree with your logic. Everyday use is the magic word. Unless you are rich enough to have a car just to sit around like a pair of shoes for the special occasion. I had a BMW Z4 coupe with sports package. It means larger wheels, also unequal. Bigger tires in the rear. Equals no tire rotation, so tires don’t last as long. Higher top speed, where am I going to do the 155mph in SoCal? Soft alloy wheel. Potholes may damage the alloy wheel. LA has some really bad pot holes. Stiff suspension, my wife refused to ride in my Z4, or my mistress as my wife calls it. I guess she was pregnant at the time, that didn’t help with big belly having to bend down to getting into a low sports car.
Finally my wife convinced me to get rid of it to get a MBZ SUV so it can chauffeur our baby with safety and absorb all the potholes.
but ur also might have to get a new turbo cuz too much boost for the turbo about 9 pound soo u might have to get a is38
I love Subaru’s probably my favorite car but for a daily it’s the gti all the way. I’ve been deciding between both and yeah I’m probably passing on my dream car because the gti is so damn good in every aspect
It's not a "fake sound"..it's just fed into the cockpit from the engine
The experts choose Wrx.
A bit of a mis-match here, really. The GTI is not a high performance car, nor is it supposed to be. If you want the high performance version, then get the Golf R with over 300 PS. The GTI is the performer for everyday driving. It's running costs and insurance are low. It is great to drive but it is not set up to be a hyper-hatch.
David Hayes stage 1 tune puts it at about 300 with out modification of the DSG. Vw really governs the power out the door.
I think the Golf R is a better match for the STI, no? WRX is the 'daily driver' like the GTI, except a little less so.
every torque launch moves the camera when you stomped the WRX. Enuf Said...I'll take the Subie - but wait for the HatchBack.!!
Gti for sure
How can you review these cars and not talk about the gear boxes, especially the DSG in the GTI?