@@akdalton8581 very much so, they’re close enough where player expression will be the deciding factor, but the distinction can make one way better to chose for a lobby depending on which class you see the most of If a lobby is mainly lights and heavies, you’re better off using Fcar FCAR has some of the best hipfire for another reason, to balance out fighting lights & heavies, you can stay mobile whilst still hitting most almost all your shots. So that the lights can’t line you up easy due to slow ADS movement & the heavies and just trade damage for free with their big health pool.
Dude… besides the fact that most of the weapon rankings are horrendous. If your tierlist has nothing at the top or bottom. It is fundamentally a terrible tier list
This aint a list, it's a "every weapon is good i guess" and a serious downplay of some really strong options. Being so unbiased with this video is a fat L my guy.
Yeah I'm sorry but lots of poor takes here. Puting the Pike in B is crazing and claiming the Deagles are hard to aim is comical. Up close the Deagles are point and left click as fast as possible. You can hit shots half way across the map with ease. Almost zero skill involved. The Pike is just broken, very good at every range. You only really need to pace your shots at range. Famas is also on par with the AK people just don't like burst weapons.
I think you switch to the iron sights, you opinion on the Pike will go up. Since getting that, I feel like I can never lose, the TTK is crazy if you get your headshots.
V9s deserves the A, mostly because it can be used during team fights, xp and m11 needs mag dump to kill 1 heavy or medium and then hide to reload whereas V9s has a far better reload time and damage, which gives you enough time frame to get consecutive kills without getting killed just because you're reloading
The FCAR is factually better than the AK and saying it isnt is blatant misinformation. Faster TTK on L and H at all ranges, easier recoil pattern, less visual recoil, tighter hip fire, and a faster reload time. I struggle to see in what metric the AK beats the FCAR besides ammo capacity. I dont want to be that guy as its just cringe, but in general this entire list just screams 'Skill Issue' problems
@@Titan2User its not overpowered at all lol in my opinion its weak only bc of fire rate and body shots range dont matter in this game tbh its not pubg lol reload time is slow and it just feels wrong to use
First i want to say that i usually really enjoy ur content but this has to be one of the worst the Finals tierlists. Explain HOW the bow was initialy higher than the pike🥲and remember there are more than a and b tier
They absolutely butchered the dagger with this update it was fine how it was in season 3 and embark are calling it a buff 😂 not being able to sprint while back stabbing is such a big nerf.
embark reworking the FCAR was such a mistake. totally removed its identity as a accuracy weapon. i say revert it and give it a slight damage nerf and hipfire nerf and see where that goes. famas is deff an A now cause of the scope model is deff S tier DB should be in D honestly its still the worst weapon in the game but its the only one i feel strongly should be in D
I disagree with the akm take red dot doesn’t help as much as it loosing it niche as the best noob friendly multi kill weapon for the medium class now if you want dmg per mag u go famas Plus akm has pitiful range and with all the long range weapons aka pike which is S tier it’s hard
The rpg dam nerf is stupid every other explosive does more damage then it Now it's kinda a joke if they where worried about it being op then put it on a long cooldown or make it a ability! The rpg only doing max 100 is soo stupid
Yeahhhh uhhhh the v9s has good range negative recoil, consistent damage and is a laser beam if you can spam fire well. I’ve been mercing lobbies with it. So I disagree with b tier for that easy a tier
I freaking hate CL40 user, no skill grenade launcher people just abuse this shit in asia server with 80% usage, theres no counter to this weapon and i hope they revert the CL40 buff as soon as possible , literally 2 shot a light.
the pikes hipfire is ass its never really effective it shoots slow and if you dont hit mostly headshots your dead reload time takes forever yall dont know good stay losing bruh 🤡 actually its about that famas yall sleepin on it
Yo dawg, there are 5 catagories, fucking use them. Why are 60% of the guns in the same catagory. You gotta have some Variety. Disliking and never watching again
Well ideally you don't want a tier list at all. That would mean the game is 100% balanced if everything does it's job. Its more fair to say his tierlist doesn't represent the current state of the game all to well.
Wrong information- FCAR kills Light and Heavy faster than akm
Akm kills medium faster
the difference is in the milliseconds ak has so much more consistency, no contest
Interesting
@@akdalton8581 very much so, they’re close enough where player expression will be the deciding factor, but the distinction can make one way better to chose for a lobby depending on which class you see the most of
If a lobby is mainly lights and heavies, you’re better off using Fcar
FCAR has some of the best hipfire for another reason, to balance out fighting lights & heavies, you can stay mobile whilst still hitting most almost all your shots. So that the lights can’t line you up easy due to slow ADS movement & the heavies and just trade damage for free with their big health pool.
The pike being at B is WILD
Yea the pike is at least A maybe S! If you have good aim it is a beast 💪
Hi edge, I agree, I also watch your streams
Idk I like the bike better
on its own its high B. but when you get 3 or even just a second medium with it it quickly goes to S
nah pike is horrible its all about that famas
my guy consistenly droping the worst takes, sill love youre channel but I do disagree a lot with your opinions on game balance and stuff
Dude… besides the fact that most of the weapon rankings are horrendous. If your tierlist has nothing at the top or bottom. It is fundamentally a terrible tier list
Lol thought the same thing what's the point of theirs if everything is basically in one teir
Bro casually dropping the worst takes known to man
Who really cares people are here to game not compare weapons
@ogre5175 this entire video is about comparing weapons
😂
Famas is A, low S in my opinion. Pike is definitely S, so much range, one headshot takes the ttk out the window.
I would even say they need some sort of nerf like less ammo or more damage drop off, or just harder weapon handleing
I'm talking about the pike btw
And how is model only an A? Easy S tier especially in high elo
i agree with the famas but the pike hell no id rather use the fcar
Why isnt there no s or d on the list? THe pount of tierlists it to use all the tiers to set some ranking not to clump them together. Also weird takes
I’d like to see the FCAR as a slower firing, more precise but harder hitting ar, and the ak stay where it is. Give the weapons a bit more identity
real, I like the fcar but it needs to differ from the others
This aint a list, it's a "every weapon is good i guess" and a serious downplay of some really strong options. Being so unbiased with this video is a fat L my guy.
you just dont agree f off
Yeah I'm sorry but lots of poor takes here. Puting the Pike in B is crazing and claiming the Deagles are hard to aim is comical. Up close the Deagles are point and left click as fast as possible. You can hit shots half way across the map with ease. Almost zero skill involved. The Pike is just broken, very good at every range. You only really need to pace your shots at range. Famas is also on par with the AK people just don't like burst weapons.
I have bad aim with everything but Goo Gun and Deagle lol. Deagle is super easy to aim imo.
very not good at every range tf you on lol hipfire is trash reload speed slow and its not strong unless you hit every head shot
I think you switch to the iron sights, you opinion on the Pike will go up. Since getting that, I feel like I can never lose, the TTK is crazy if you get your headshots.
Tempted to link this tier list to reddit and have them roast ur ass😂
please do so
Akm mag nerf does a lot imo, I lose gunfights to heavy much more because im missing few more bullets and need to reload
Just came back to the game for season 4 and I was so disappointed when i found out you couldn't throw the spear
V9s deserves the A, mostly because it can be used during team fights, xp and m11 needs mag dump to kill 1 heavy or medium and then hide to reload whereas V9s has a far better reload time and damage, which gives you enough time frame to get consecutive kills without getting killed just because you're reloading
I got my hopes up seeing this video. Thank god I looked at the comments to save me 37:02 min
The AKM with a Red dot sight on it is a ton of fun to use
The FCAR is factually better than the AK and saying it isnt is blatant misinformation. Faster TTK on L and H at all ranges, easier recoil pattern, less visual recoil, tighter hip fire, and a faster reload time. I struggle to see in what metric the AK beats the FCAR besides ammo capacity. I dont want to be that guy as its just cringe, but in general this entire list just screams 'Skill Issue' problems
Its just better for people who cant aim tbh
@hyenabutter5279 Yeah that's what I think it mainly comes down to, the AK is more forgiving, you can miss more and still kill the target.
Easier recoil?!?! Are you guys stil in season 1?? The recoil pattern on thr fcar is god awful rn.
Top players have been using akm only pretty much since Fcar recoil nerfs. Fcar is simply worse in every way
@slack3021 It's literally just pull down to the left?
Mgl is great is you can predict an outcome. There is a ton of knowledge you need before you can effectively use it.
what is this rank?
I’d take some type of scope too on the m60 that would be nice
Terminal attack really made bro lose his shit.
Im not gonna lie this tier list sucks, curious to know what rank you are and how many hours you have in season 4 to make this judgement call
bruh. not putting cl-40 in nobrain broken tier is insane
You guys just don’t want to acknowledge the pike is OP
because its not
@@tx9chris8 fact it’s not
@@tx9chris8 it’s broken
@@Titan2User its not overpowered at all lol in my opinion its weak only bc of fire rate and body shots range dont matter in this game tbh its not pubg lol reload time is slow and it just feels wrong to use
@@tx9chris8 you just said it’s weak….
First i want to say that i usually really enjoy ur content but this has to be one of the worst the Finals tierlists. Explain HOW the bow was initialy higher than the pike🥲and remember there are more than a and b tier
The bow is for light and pike is for medium. He analyses the weapon strength compared to the other ones from the same category. Obviously.
Pike is S 100%%%
hell nahh
The only thing i would switch is. S tier model. 99% of the time you'll see the model in gold Rank and above.
They absolutely butchered the dagger with this update it was fine how it was in season 3 and embark are calling it a buff 😂 not being able to sprint while back stabbing is such a big nerf.
And this is why you aren’t taken serious in the community 😂😂 go ahead and stop sharing your opinion
How are there no S’s or D’s?
Pike is just too OP and needs a nerf
Most polarizing tier list i have yet to see what even was this?
embark reworking the FCAR was such a mistake.
totally removed its identity as a accuracy weapon. i say revert it and give it a slight damage nerf and hipfire nerf and see where that goes.
famas is deff an A now cause of the scope
model is deff S tier DB should be in D honestly its still the worst weapon in the game but its the only one i feel strongly should be in D
Bro has no idea what he’s talking about
I disagree with the akm take red dot doesn’t help as much as it loosing it niche as the best noob friendly multi kill weapon for the medium class now if you want dmg per mag u go famas
Plus akm has pitiful range and with all the long range weapons aka pike which is S tier it’s hard
The rpg dam nerf is stupid every other explosive does more damage then it Now it's kinda a joke if they where worried about it being op then put it on a long cooldown or make it a ability!
The rpg only doing max 100 is soo stupid
Yeahhhh uhhhh the v9s has good range negative recoil, consistent damage and is a laser beam if you can spam fire well. I’ve been mercing lobbies with it. So I disagree with b tier for that easy a tier
If you’re new to the finals, just know that this is a very arguable tier list at best.
I am new, thank you. Unfortunately there aren’t really any other tier lists to reference
@kflaco8961 a channel called calm zin combo has a good tierlist for both weapons and gadgets
Pike, Akm, and Model should be in S
The model is s tier
Glad I clicked this vid 😂
Dafuq is this list my guy? 💀
Riot Shield is S tier, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
V9s is definitely not B high A or even S
I freaking hate CL40 user, no skill grenade launcher people just abuse this shit in asia server with 80% usage, theres no counter to this weapon and i hope they revert the CL40 buff as soon as possible , literally 2 shot a light.
Shouldnt the tier list be based on 1v1 potential? And tbh none of the ARs have a chance in a 1v1 with the pike. Especially not the akm
I think a tier list should also consider team strategies but for the most part it's gauging 1v1 potential with other weapons.
appreciated
but this list is a littel wack ngl
ROFL Everything is perfectly balanced... my guy... the pike and CL and deags are easily S tier.. wtf is this?! LOLO
Stick to reading patch notes bruh 😂 L takes
the pikes hipfire is ass its never really effective it shoots slow and if you dont hit mostly headshots your dead reload time takes forever yall dont know good stay losing bruh 🤡 actually its about that famas yall sleepin on it
Its.... phine
awful take
Numbers disagree with you and so do I
93R is F
Bro wtf😮
Riot shield should be higher!
v9s b? with the new sights? blud u must stop doing tier lists u dont know what u talk about. pike on b? rly? that shit melts at literally any range
Yo dawg, there are 5 catagories, fucking use them. Why are 60% of the guns in the same catagory. You gotta have some Variety. Disliking and never watching again
Well ideally you don't want a tier list at all. That would mean the game is 100% balanced if everything does it's job. Its more fair to say his tierlist doesn't represent the current state of the game all to well.
wtf is this tier list....????
Fcar pike and famas are all better than akm lol ur takes r bad
This is one of the worst list i’ve ever seen tbh
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