5 Reasons You Should Carry With A Round In the Chamber
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When you start carrying a gun, the most important question you have to answer, besides what gun to carry, is, “Should I carry this gun with a round in the chamber or not?” I don’t have proof of this, but I believe 80% of people who carry a gun now started carrying with no round in the chamber.
I'd say somewhere between 60% of people still don’t carry a round in the chamber.
I was one of those people who didn’t carry a round in the chamber, and I have friends who shoot better than me and have carried a gun as long as or longer than me, who don’t carry with a round in the chamber to this day.
So what’s the right answer?
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Because of this video, I now carry with 2 rounds in the chamber.
We see you.
Why not both?
Colion didn't address having the safety on or off and the weapon that doesn't have a safety. ?
hahahah
Hi point c9 is your gun. Can consistently double feed with the extended magazines. 😂
As a retired cop that went through three on duty shootings there’s no way I’d carry w/an empty chamber. In all but one confrontation I only had a split second to react, AND you could induce a malfunction trying to ready your gun in an emergency.
i'm ex army ranger ex police officer ,MOST OFFICERS NEVER HAVE A INVOLVEMENT SHOOTING YOU SAID YOU HAD THREE???WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT DEPT WOULD KEEP YOU.
@@eddiehoskins7482 You never shot anyone. Congratulations. Not everyone is you. Many officers work in rough areas. If he's a good officer, why wouldn't the department keep him?
I agree! I own two Glocks. GLOCK! You know that weapon with NO manual safety?
I was trained on that weapon by The Cherokee Nation Marshal Service.
They taught the us nomenclature of the G-19. pistole.
The biggest thing was "Keep yer booger hook off the BANG switch!
Always with a round-in battery!
@@eddiehoskins7482All those credentials and you type like a child? I noticed you claim to be an "ex" and not a retired anything. No one likes a quitter. Maybe if you'd stuck around long enough, you'd have seen some action?
@@lylehutchins916 When I joined the US Marshals Service in 1997, my duty weapon was the Ruger GP100 3". Which, for some reason, bit my trigger finger. Then I bought the Beretta .40 DA/SA cause I used a DOA in the Border Patrol and loved it (the DAO sucked). Then, the US Marshals decided to go the FBI way and assigned us the Glock 22. Wrong size; in our (deputies all over the US Marshals Service) humble opinion, the G23 would have been a better choice to conceal under our suits. How much training we had with the G22???? One hour combined range and classroom, then a qualification round, that was it. Our thoughts??? It sucked. I saw a few accidental shootings because the dorks trying to retrieve their locked G22 in the Bureau of Prisons gun boxes put their fingers in the trigger while retrieving the pistol. I bought a Fobus paddle holster, and every time I had to secure the G22, I kept it in the holster. That philosophy is true nowadays with my G43 and G43X (the only two Glocks that I have and my primary carry weapons since I retired from the USMS). Stay safe, bro.
As a relatively new gun owner, I still carry without a round in a chamber. I known I shouldnt, but I'm still in that stage where I'm not completely comfortable while carrying. I know that so long as the safety is on and I treat my gun with the respect and caution it deserves, the chances of something bad happening is basically zero. I'm just hoping to get some more training and experience before I feel comfortable enough to have a round in the chamber.
I went through the same process. Take your time with it, you'll get there
Good idea -keep practicing👍
Same here my striker fired guns I carry without a round in a chamber, but I do carry a round in the chamber if its a hammered fired pistol because if I am carrying appendix I can hold the hammer down while taking it out so just in case the trigger snags on something I would immediately know because I am holding down the hammer and I can feel it moving, plus I also carry a 1911 with the safety on cocked and locked but those are the only guns I carry with one in the chamber. An both of my 1911 have a grip safety, so even if the trigger gets caught up on something and I am not holding the hammer down if I don't engage that grip safety the gun is not going off. Also, I sometimes carry a revolver so its always chambered just in double action and not single action. I am come to trust my hammered fired guns a lot more than my striker fired ones. I have a hammered fired CZ PO7 with decocker and I love it.
@@zvmQru02 how are you carrying and what are you carrying? If you are carrying a Glock ITW, I completely understand that. If you are carrying something with a safety on it 'or' in a holster, there is no reason whatsoever not to keep one in the chamber. Worse thing that happens from a holster, is a round goes off towards the ground.
Everything takes time
Iv carried a revolver for 10+ years. No safeties and never had an accident. Proper carry technique and a good holster is very important.
It still can be a little "scary" having that round in the chamber
With any tool, I've always considered solid training and equipment to be the "first safety".
@@Ange1ofD4rkness It can be scary. But leave the gun in the quality holster and it won't ever go off... and if you have to take it out of the holster... treat the gun as if it is loaded.
@@Ange1ofD4rkness that's what the transfer bar is for on newer revolvers. If it's so scary that it affects you negatively then might want to leave the guns to big boys.
What? It has a safety it’s called a trigger.
I used to be that guy that didn’t carry with one in the chamber until I got comfortable enough. No matter how long I owned the firearm that did NOT go away UNTIL I trained with it. All it takes is a few times at the range,maybe 100 rounds and a good cleaning. Now, there’s NO WAY you can get me to carry without one racked ready to go. Now I’m uncomfortable carrying without one. Just train and you’ll be fine I promise you
I have been in a self defense shooting at work (armed security) and the biggest thing to keep in mind is that the bad guy is on the offensive meaning he’s already made up his mind that he’s going to attempt to take a life. That being said, you are at a reactionary disadvantage so time is of the utmost importance and that fraction of a second it takes can very well be the difference between life and death. Keeping a round chambered is most likely your only chance of surviving. All that being, train train train so you don’t accidentally shoot yourself drawing your weapon. Try to find a safe way to train under stress with a competent instructor
BINGO…. That right there is the reason I’ve NEVER carried without a round in the chamber.
When you carry a firearm with the intention of self DEFENSE, you’re automatically at a disadvantage because your stance is always going to be REACTIONARY. Those fractions of a second definitely count.
Woah what happened? Did you blow the dude away?
I had to shoot at a Rottwieler once. Attacking me while I was wearing my infant son in one of those chest carriers. I would have been screwed without one in the chamber.
@@col.cottonhill6655 Do you have a link to the local news account of this event? Just wondering.
@@Pappy7064 what event? My dog attack? Or are you asking Quasar704?
@@col.cottonhill6655 your dog attack
I've carried +1 chambered daily for over 20 years now and I've never had an accidental or negligent discharge in my life. I've been shooting since I was around 10 years old or younger. (Started daily carrying in my 20s and I'm in my 40s now).
Same here
Yup, gun only goes bang when the trigger is pulled. Ask Alec.... Don't forget about the one in the chamber!
@@gcwessell hard to forget when it's always there ;)
same here, Ive been carrying with a round in my chamber for about 10+ yrs and have been safe, now as soon as I get home I take the round out, but thats me. Stay safe
Yup. I cut myself more than i ever shot myself. Which was never. So i would say guns are safer than knives
I grew up around firearms and always carried with a round loaded. It's familiarity and experience that cure the fears of loaded chambers.
Just as, if not more important, practice, practice, practice.
I know you meant that, when you said "familliarity". But some people won't make the connection. Let's bring them all home, safe.
I didn't carry chambered when I started until I got more comfortable with the idea of carrying a firearm and trusted it to not simply fire. I knew it wouldn't, but was paranoid. Once I carried for about 2-3 months I started carrying chambered and now I even carry at capacity+1.
Here is one more. You're in a mall, and a phyco is in the entrance to the store you're in, killing people outside. Racking a slide is an audible warning, taking away your surprise ambush.
Oh no, why would an algae do this? 😲
That’s because you don’t have a 1911 .
One in the head is beautiful on that Gun ❤️
You could have one racked and squeeze but it won’t go off the hammer has to be back.
So if you manually pull the hammer back instead of racking . You can barely even hear it.
If all the Jews had a 1911 during hitler maybe, just maybe.
If Kennedy had a 1911 in those moments just maybe , just maybe.
If Selena had a 1911 on stage maybe, just maybe.
Wanting to train with a 1911 is a stand. Feels American.
This coming from a vietnamease Irish born in America lmfao! You guys oppressed us crazy in that Vietnam war ! But I wasn’t there!!
😆
The 1911 is superb. I don’t believe in one in the head! I believe in training! But I’ve never been so convinced with the 1911 features.
How safe it is, the 2011 conceal type is THE ONE. Saving up for an expensive one.
I’m going to go hold them right now.
then the psycho hears the slide and either stops and/or runs away in fear of his life.
Best reason I read .
😂😂😂😂😂😂 because the AR the dude is using and women screaming and fire alarm going off wont hide your slide noise? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I will never judge someone for not carrying with one in the chamber, I did it for years myself because it made me uneasy. What really changed that for me was researching the built in safeties on my gun. After seeing how many redundancies were built in it was a no brainer, but before that I personally carried with a dumby round in the chamber just to familiarize myself with seeing one loaded on a daily basis. After about a week of doing this with no random discharges I realized how safe it actually is as long as you are smart.
This is my biggest hurdle at the moment. Im still fearful of a random discharge carrying appendix. I carried a DA/SA CZ P07 and felt ok. I understood the mechanics better. Moved to Shield Plus for its size but feel very uneasy about the striker fired after hearing about the sigs. I’m aware of the trigger safety and internal safeties of the Glock and I believe they’re the same in my shield but I’m still nervous admittedly.
Same here, and then being in not 1 but multiple physical altercations where I have had to wrestle someone, no shots, no firearm came out of a holster. Boosted my confidence a lot.
Thank you! Makes perfect sense.
@@JohnRamboooo I have a shield plus and I always have 1 in the chamber. In todays world I like the extra round and knowing that I am ready. Hope it never happens but... Like a lot of people when I first started carrying I did not have 1 ready. A friend took me out to an outside shooting range and made me practice pulling my weapon and firing without, then with. I have not stopped and that was 30 plus years ago.
🤷♂️ I have carried a chambered XDS45 for many years without incident, and it doesn't even have a safety on it.
After taking my gun almost completely apart to clean and just being mechanically inclined in general. Understanding the built-in internal safety mechanisms to prevent unintentional firing made me feel super confident and I’ve been carrying locked and loaded ever since.
Exactly. Understanding the mechanics is a big plus in having confidence in the gun you carry.
Safety?
@@edwardhoward4708Glocks have 3 safeties. 2 internal and the trigger safety
@@edwardhoward4708👉 that's your safety. And a good holster.
@@flatdaddioI came across a channel on here where some Sheriff's deputy thought he was some sort of gun guru. Preaching about conceal carry and safety... Anyway, I noticed he was missing a finger. Then I checked the video where he explained how he shot it off with his Glock. The amount of people claiming that they carry without a round in the chamber to avoid this sort of accident was ridiculous. I just carry without playing with my gun or putting my finger on the trigger unless I mean to fire.
I saw a video where a man was about to be attacked by a large vicious dog. He barely had enough time to use his EDC with a round in the chamber. You never know how quickly a threat will present itself.
Appendix carry 1 in the pipe since the day i started carrying. Buy good gear (holster, gun belt) and have condifence in your gear, and your confidence in carrying a hot gun will go up.
I could not agree more. It took me almost 2 years to chamber a round.
Its been 23 years of me carrying. I will admit i have a sig p365x with external saftey. I also will admit I have practiced pulling while taking off the safety thousands and thousands of times. It is natural for me to now unholster while taking off the safety and fire. It comes down to practice practice practice. No bad guy is going to give you that extra second to rack a round. Thank you sir for all the videos and reasonable information. Stay strong folks.
For those nervous about a round in the chamber of a single-action pistol without a safety, consider a double-action only or double-action/single-action pistol. They have a longer, heavier trigger pull that's almost impossible to accidentally pull. While it sits in your holster the only spring under tension is the magazine spring.
Same with Glocks. The way the striker firing mechanism works is that the striker spring isn't loaded while chambered and the trigger needs to be pulled to load the striker spring tension before a round is fired. That's why most people complain of the Glock trigger sucking. The p320 is a different story and that's why it shoots people in the junk 😂
@@clutchboi4038I’d been wondering about that. So the spring isn’t loaded at all once a round is chambered in a Glock?
@@JohnRamboooo Yes, the striker is loaded once the slide goes into battery, and it keeps the striker from floating freely which would be unsafe in event of a dropped pistol. It's less cocked than most, and more than some.
That is a great recommendation!
@@StevenRogers-hw9dj Ahhh, Ok so its got a little tension on it to keep it from moving freely, that makes sense. Another newbie question, so whats stopping the piece that retains the tension from failing and allowing the spring forward/sending a round off? Is the spring not loaded enough to go off in the event that fails?
Many forget that you may not have the ability to chamber a round when you have lost the use of one hand. Yes,it can be done one handed IF you have trained to do it.
I started without one in the chamber because I had a healthy respect (fear) for firearms and what it does. I’m one who researches and put in the time for drywork so now I know how safe carrying +1 is. I would never fault anyone who prefers not to but I believe the pros outweigh the cons.
I have P365 XL with a manual safety, and I always keep a round in the chamber whenever I take it with me. I did not bother using the safety features of it since I rely on my holster from accidental discharge.
I think carrying without a round in the chamber is appropriate for the first month you're carrying. This is while you're still learning interferences in your equipment and system.
Yes training, but when training you're not seeing how the firearm and holster interacts with your daily environment. How does putting on your seat belt interact with your carry position? Your office chair? Everything around you day to day?
After you've confirmed everything in your system is good to go, then chamber.
I was watching a training vid where they were showing how important it is to drop what you're carrying while drawing. It was interesting seeing a person naturally try and not drop whatever they may be holding and try and shoot one handed. If you're carrying something not critical for fighting, best to drop it and get two hands on the gun. (Granted its not a baby or something....there's always a caveat)
Glad you mentioned the baby 😂 that was my first thought when I started reading this.
You're right about dropping anything you're carrying but... Not trying to be too picky, I'm thinking that if you're carrying a baby your first response should be to get that baby as far from the situation as possible as fast as possible. Assuming it's not someone already targeting you, that is. (There's always an exception, isn't there?)
Being a 'hero' at the risk of your own life is one thing. Risking a child's life is a whole different matter. (You probably already know that but... maybe someone else doesn't?)
If you have enough time to worry about what you are carrying, then round in vs no round doesn't matter. If you don't have that time, then drop whatever is in your hands...no matter what it is. You can't help your baby if you are dead, right?
Acorn shooter
@@MyName-tb9oz Running just to be shot or stabbed in the back is also not advisable, you never turn your back on an armed predator or a raging animal. You retreat facing the threat and unfortunately that means with the baby.
Carrying a gun without a manual safety is another thing many are unnecessarily wary of. With a modern holster that fully cover the trigger (or really any holster that covers and has good retention) you can carry a gun without a safety with a round in the chamber without much worry.
I was wary of the Glock, and I still don't like them. I swore off strikers after carrying a glock for a while. The 1911 I carried, I didn't feel safe DESPITE it having a manual safety. I carry a striker without manual safety now, I'm not a fan of manual safeties.
I have a manual safety on one of my guns and if you practice and train with it flipping the safety off as soon as you draw is a natural habit. Also if someone ever disarms you they will have to fumble with the safety first therefore giving you time
@@notsure7874I've carried a Glock 43x for years. Either an Appendix IBW kydex We The People holster, or an Urban Carry G3. Just recently switched to a Canik Mete MC9 with the same brand holsters.
OP's statement is particularly true regarding a DA/SA like a Sig P226 Legion. The DA trigger weight IS your manual safety, and if your fingers are too soy to pull it back without throwing off your accuracy, you can treat the hammer as your manual safety, which then sets the trigger to a crisp SA trigger.
Just ask Mr. Glock.
This ain’t Hollywood. Always keep one in the pipe. If you aren’t comfortable, get comfortable.
Get Gud, ok gamer
Seriously, getting professional training in shooting classes is INVALUABLE and worth any cost. It will build your SKILLS as well as your confidence. Your body will gain a new posture as you wear a whole new level of LESS FEAR in general. Feral people can SEE THIS and leave the area. Ask around gun shops about quality training teachers.............................elsullo
@@joe_higachi Not a gamer. Not sure what you are mumbling.
I will never be comfortable with a loaded firearm next to my Johnson
@@RicardoCrayThen carry 5 o’clock and have it pointed at your femoral artery instead, more than one ways to carry.
I have a S&W 9mm, with a laser sight and no manual safety, but does have a grip safety lever on the back strap. My previous EDC was a beretta 92FS, with a safety, which I always had a round in the chamber. The new one has a super easy slide, much easier than the beretta. For me, it’s a personal choice. I’m comfortable either way.
I don't carry with one in the chamber cause i feel like there's just too much of risk of having a negligent discharge and if it happens you could lose your right to have a gun or worse get someone injured or killed and all it takes is the person to forget that the gun had one in the chamber and there's just to many situations for a person to forget that the gun was loaded but unless you really train yourself and you never pull it out unless to unload or protect yourself then yeah I'd say you should do it but i only keep one in the chamber if I know i should be prepared in certain parts of town or in the woods when hunting but if I'm just going to the store driving around then no I'd rather risk it and keep training on my draw and to rack it to prepare for a fight and to always be aware of my surroundings and the people I see
As long as you have a modern striker fired handgun in a good holster there's no reason not to carry with One in the chamber. Look up how many and how the internal safeties work. It's impossible for it to go off without the trigger being fully depressed. It's impossible for the trigger to get fully depressed while drawing(unless you pull it with your finger). As long as you have a good holster and pay attention as your reholstering you should have no issues whatsoever. Learn your weapon guys.
Looking up how the safeties work is a great idea for the mechanically inclined. If you understand how the parts work you can understand why it's safe.
A 1908 .25 Colt Vest Pocket Auto patented in 1903 is a striker fired pistol. It has a manual safety and a beaver tail safety. It was literally designed to be carried in a vest pocket without a holster and a round in the chamber. Look up the schematics. It's impossible for it to go off without being in your hand.
@@MyName-tb9ozA firearm is generally only as safe as the person using it.
The engineer's lament, @@mattmarzula: Every time we make it id10t-proof someone comes along and builds a better id10t!
Sig P320 enters the chat!
hey Colion Noir, have you considered making a video about family gun owner safety? or strategies for keeping guns away from little kids in the Household?
One for the Father that wants to defend his family but fears his kids will find and play with his firearms. or what age to talk to your kids about guns?
Main reason: Because “pull the trigger, bang” is faster than “rack the slide, pull the trigger, bang”.
You mean “rack eh slide..:. BANG” you lost.
@@targgthewise2892 also you have a decent chance of messing up the racking of the slide and hang up your gun, then you have a really expensive hammer.
@@HunterBidenscrack He's saying that the OTHER guys gun went bang, and you lost...
I forgot I put one in the chamber after a friend of mine was making fun of me for not having one in the pipe. 6 months later I was being carjacked at gunpoint and I pulled out my gun and it went bang until the slide locked back and the fight was over. The whole interaction took place in about 3 seconds and the carjacker fired 26 rounds from his 30 round magazine before he ran out of fluid. I only had 7 rounds and I needed all of them.
No, it's not. I pocket carry. If I see them approaching, my hand is on the gun and the holster is jammed against my pocket. When I am justified to draw and fire, I have my gun out before you have lifted your shirt, reached for it and are starting to draw. You can't draw or touch it til shooting warranted. Once my gun clears my pocket, it is pushed forward hard with other hand racking back and releasing. My finger is moving into the trigger guard and the first round is fired one handed, it is a HAND_gun not a handS gun, at gut level. No ribs, sternum to slow the round and huge arteries and the spine can be hit. Also, the hip bone may ricochet bits back forward severing things. If threat continues Recoil takes the gun up and second round fired center mass . If threat continues, by that time in isosceles 2 handed grip and careful aim at the nose. Even my 380 will penetrate those thinner facial bones and exposed are brain, brain stem. That will stop the threat, period.
I got my first handgun at 18 (legally acquired lol), a 1911 as a gift from my parents. All of my firearms are ALWAYS loaded and chambered, unless being cleaned or shown off they are loaded w/ one in the chamber.
Officer told me a long time ago, carrying without one in the chamber and thinking you'll have time to rack it is like thinking you'll have time to put your seatbelt on before you crash at 100mph, good luck and God speed.
Maybe not drive 100 mph ...
Maybe re-think where you hang out
Maybe re-think who you hang with
I went like 2 days without carrying in the chamber. Then I saw the reason and how it’s actually safe as long as it’s In the holster. I do flooring so it’ll be uncomfortable on the groin area. Ya it feels sketchy but after a few days you’ll get used to it.
For anyone who carries without one in chamber I suggest you watch actual gun self defense footage on UA-cam. Even if you have great situational awareness you'll see just how fast shit can hit the fan. I understand being new and a loaded gun seems scary, but trust me being in a situation where you need to shoot and your gun isn't loaded yet is scarier. Train train train let's not ridicule the people who don't carry hot let's educate them and make the criminals afraid of responsible gun owners.
Although those self defense videos are scary, you just have to go by statistics. The chances of getting into a random shootout is significantly lower than shooting your own junk.
Having one in the chamber is basically never the reason why someone shot themselves in the junk. 1. lack of a manual safety. 2. Improper handling of the firearm. No obstruction in a holster is going to matter if it is physically impossible to pull the trigger. You do not overcome negligence by being afraid of the weapon.@@JeremyBell
@@JeremyBellPeople shoot themselves in the junk, in my opinion, for one of 2 reasons;
A. Bad technique- ie. breaking the second rule of gun safety by pointing the firearm at themselves while reholstering.
#2. Complacency - not ensuring the holster is clear prior to/while reholstering and some brass or a shirt tail gets inside and activates the trigger, while again pointing a firearm at themselves.
If you carry AIWB, practice rocking your hips forward while you holster/reholster your firearm then it'll never be pointed at your junk and an ND will (hopefully) only hit the floor or ground.
@@JeremyBell "The chances of getting into a random shootout is significantly lower than shooting your own junk."
This! So carry however you want.
Carrying a round in the "chamber" was such a good idea that they even developed a way for black powder revolvers to rest the hammer between chambers so you could load all six rounds and be ready to rock.
I carried a revolver (S&W Model 15) as a law enforcement specialist in the USAF. I never even thought about not having a round in the chamber when I started carrying a semiautomatic afterwards.
I believe the AF teaches to keep the M9 on fire in the holster as well
I REALLY LOVED your explanations and the reasoning behind each situation. ( even the corny videos!!)
As a retired law enforcement officer and self-defense instructor I must make a few points. While I agree that carrying with a loaded chamber is faster and simpler for a well-trained individual. I must point out there are at least three reasons to carry or have an empty chamber.
1. As you stated accidental discharges are possible, especially with individuals who do not regularly train. By regularly train, I mean practicing dry fire drills such as practicing drawing and holstering, and getting to the range at least once a month! But this training should be done by anyone who carries, with or without a loaded chamber.
2. Children, if you live in a house with children or children occasionally come to your house there is always the danger of a pistol being left unattended. If you own a pistol with or without a manual safety or carry it with the safety off, the danger of a tragic accident increases considerably with a loaded chamber. It takes a certain amount of knowledge and strength to operate a semi-auto pistol. Knowledge and strength young children often do not have. True, you should never leave a firearm unattended, loaded, or otherwise. But, people are not perfect, they are humans, and even the most careful person can make a mistake.
3. The danger of an attacker taking your pistol away from you. As you noted, most incidents happen within three yards/meters. The key word here is within. Some attackers strike at closer ranges, from behind; or they manage to get too close before the threat is revealed. In such cases, they may be able to take your weapon before you know it or they may be able to overpower you and take your pistol. In such a case an empty chamber can buy you the time needed to recover your pistol or escape before your attacker figures out that the chamber is empty or how to disengage the safety. I trained my officers on how to retain and if needed, how to recover their pistols. In later years a few officers told me that training saved their lives!
So I also recommend locking holsters that require and added step, such as pushing a button, to draw the pistol. There are several on the market and with training and practice one can draw just as fast as someone using a non-locking holster. In addition I recommend weapon retention and recovery classes for anyone who carries a firearm. A one-month course of three times a week classes in weapons retention and recovery is usually enough to develop reflex/muscle memory that will stay with you and be remembered when needed to save your life.
A note to instructors and students here. When training, practice in groups of three and, never return the training pistol to the student acting as the attacker until you are told to by a third student or an instructor. I have heard a report of an officer who recovered his weapon from an attacker just to hand it back to him because that is how he trained.
P.S. Weapon recovery is, by default, also training in how to disarm an attacker. A very handy skill because; disarming a close attacker is often faster and safer than trying to draw your own weapon.
I always carried with a round in the chamber once I got my permit, but I also only carry with a manual safety. I know some people hate the idea of a manual safety on modern firearms but it's easy enough to practice disengaging it with your draw stroke at home and it gives me the peace of mind that there will be far less chance of an AD.
I have a manual safety and my grip safety
Not "AD."
Only ND....
I train a lot, I know that I can draw from concealed and put one into center mass, in .68 seconds, 2 in center mass in .87, I know this because I train to do this, I can do this because I keep a round in the chamber, when a situation arises, you need to be able to make a decision, “is this a deadly threat?” Not just draw and shoot, but how can you know if you have the time to stop the threat unless you know what you can do in training? In a situation, add a whole second on to your time, your heart is racing, your adrenaline is jacked, be smart, get good equipment, train train train, part of training is education, they aren’t separate, knowing what you are capable of is so important. God bless. 🙏🏽
.68sec from 3 feet away
@@jordanpoor8006 About 10 feet
@@jordanpoor8006 I know people that shoot USPSA competitions, that can consistently hit center mass at 10-15 yards in .7 seconds. Some of them can even start facing away from the target, turn, draw and hit the target in .7 or .8 seconds.
Exactly! i am 64 now and have been carrying and training since i was 23. Under a second and on target!
@@Pappy7064 That’s awesome, I enjoy shooting USPSA, 3 gun and IDPA, when I can, I’m 58, not exactly a youngster anymore, the point to my post was, keep a round in the chamber, and know what your capabilities are, I don’t consider myself fast, I’m not bad, but there are so many people that are a lot faster than me out there.
I've been carrying for decades and never had an empty chamber.
Being a veteran and ex Leo, I always have one on the pipe....it's all about being ready when you need to be
The sound effects and Adlibs on the video are fantastic. I just close my eyes and listen and it’s hilarious so entertaining but the message is clear.😂
The answer is What ever you are comfortable with. Don't be pushed into something your not comfortable with.
My first gun (G19) was in 2020. I youtubed the crap out of information and opinions before i even purchased and came to the conclusion that when milliseconds count, racking the slide is seconds away. Round in the chamber since day one. Carry a proper holster that covers the trigger, keep your gun well maintained, proper trigger discipline and then unintentional discharges are exceedingly rare.
No such thing as an AD, only NDs.
If proper gun safety is maintained at all times a negligent discharge will never happen
Bro. I’ve forgotten to tack the slide at a range, where there’s no pressure, no stress, no danger, and most importantly no hurry.
Carrying without a round in the chamber is the same as saying you have enough time to put your seat belt on before a car accident
This was one of the best "non-judgemental" discussions on this subjects that I've seen lately.
Choice is good. I carry with a round chambered but personally I won't carry that way without an external safety/decocker with a double action trigger and an external hammer which can be held down against the hammer-block device while holstering for any IWB application.
I used to carry a single-action 1911 "cocked and locked" with two external safeties but no longer will do that IWB either. I won't trust metal parts under spring tension any more when they are poised ready to strike the firing pin, much less plastic ones. Uncocked but chambered and ready to fire DA is more my style but others are free to come to their own conclusions.
Uncocked prevents decocked...
I live in a high risk city so I always keep a round in the chamber
I live in a very low risk, very rural area on a farm, and still carry with one in the chamber. It's a great habit to be in because that's one less thing to think about when I have to go to a high risk area.
" I live in a high risk city so I always keep a round in the chamber "
The better plan is to MOVE!
I would love to move to another state but I'm ob a fixed income and cannot afford to move
@@papimaximus95
Colion strutting down the road. One in the chamber, an eye out for danger.
Fun and informative video.
No round in the chamber? Imagine trying to put on your seat belt one second before a head on collision. Same exact thing only different.
I like that analogy
When I bought my first gun, I did the same thing as Colion; carried for a while without one in the chamber. Once I better understood my gun and the ways of properly carrying/handling it, I felt comfortable enough in my abilities to do so. Thankfully, I've never had to use it outside of ranges and haven't had an ND ever.
I have been carrying with one in the chamber since day one. It has been a year and my balls are still intact and not blown off.
👌🏽In SA, carrying with an empty chamber will definitely get you killed
If you train and practice. It doesn't matter whether you remember to chamber a round. Muscle memory is why we train. If you carry without a chambered round. You should train that way. That way if you need to draw. You won't have to think about racking the slide. You'll just do it because that's how you trained.
Of course once you're comfortable carrying with one in the pipe. You will need to relearn your draw. Or you'll end up discarding your chambered round.
But practice and training is not something you should ever stop. Unless you are going to quit carrying.
We train so when the sticky fecal matter hits the airflow device. We don't need to think. We can just act.
Carry whichever way makes you comfortable and whichever way you train. Train the way you carry
I’m with you on this topic. I carry with a round in the chamber and don’t carry guns with safety selectors. Your safety is your trigger finger and when every fraction of a second counts I want every advantage I can get. Keep up on the great and informative videos especially since the main stream media won’t keep us up to date on anything
I train to have my slide drawn on the initial pull and I'm good at it...but I'm always faster if I don't have to. More importantly in a stressful situation you increase the chance of dropping the weapon mischambering ect.
Plus I should mention as good as I am at racking on the draw that took tons of time and practice and it will still never be as fast as having one in the chamber.
Somebody once compared carrying without one in the chamber to driving without a seat-belt. Going without one in the chamber is like saying you'll put the seat-belt on before the impact.
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Great analogy
Everyone needs to do what’s right for them. I am left handed so I had to figure out what is right for me. My EDC is M&P Shield and I carry with one in the chamber, safety off with a leather holster that covers the trigger guard completely.
I find it to be mission dependant. Im a cop and a army vet, and while on duty i always carry with one in the chamber. The reason for this is because i would be more likely to encounter an imminent threat while on the job. However, in my everyday carry, my threat level goes down to moderate or low therefore i can feel more comfortable without carrying one in the chamber. Through my training and experience, the millisecond difference is negligible, and you tend to have more time to react in a civilian scenario than a combat scenario... Most of the time. The moral of the story is, base your decision on what your lifestyle and training are, as well as what type of threat level you may or are most likely to encounter!
When I was new to EDC I carried for the first month without a round in the chamber. In that month of growing my awareness I became aware of so many situations where I was putting myself at a distinct disadvantage. I consider that first month a month of valuable firsthand training and have carried chambered ever since.
Conceal and Carry on!
One of your best videos in a long time. Reminds me of your original videos. ❤antistanley
Another great video!! Keep them coming!! Thank you CN!!
Lol. When I first carried I didn't carry with a round in the chamber. Now I do. But, I am also better trained now than when I first began to carry. So there's that term some people find annoying. Training. As you train, you skill obviously increases as does you confidence in those skills. And in my case, my self awareness of my firearms "resting state" got better. I don't have a lot of guns but I can tell you what state each one is in. If the magazine is loaded or not. If it has a round chambered or not. But I can do this with most of my tools too. Especially the ones that can hurt me or someone else from improper use.
Love your comments about a good holster. Several years ago I changed my way of thinking on holsters and started thinking about them as a safety mechanism for my handgun.
Always a round in the pipe
Depending on the firearm being used and the persons experience/competency with a firearm, I 'might' not suggest this for someone that is not properly trained. I have seen plenty of NG's in my time instructing/coaching/mentoring newbs from all branches mil, many leo and even trained a good amount of mil/leo from other countries.
About 2 years ago I saw a large young lady that was mexican carrying a glock exiting Taco Bell, before entering her car she went to take the glock out of waistband and shot herself through her gunt. She pissed herself "I think" because I saw what looked a lot like more clear fluid than I did blood.
I laughed my ass off but I have a twisted humor. Nothing I haven't seen happen plenty of times before.
An individual has to gain the experience to get the confidence to always carry with a round in the chamber. The only guns I carry also have no safeties.
Im loving this style of video, please keep making more like this. It was very informative, and also very funny. Thank you, Mr. Colion.
I started without “one” in the chamber…then after some time I worked my way up to having one in the chamber with the safety on…now I’ve worked myself to the point without having the safety on. It’s all about a level of confidence and how old your firearm is.
I used to carry an sig 226 with a decocker! That was my first hand gun. I eventually went to a Kimber ultra carry 1911 and while I did carry with a round chambered I’ll admit the first few times I carried I was a bit nervous! Second nature now! Summer carry is often an sig 938 1911 style but it only has the thumb safety, no grip safety!
My Range Master ran tests on each officer, in the the chamber and not. It was eye opening. 5 rounds total. (But yes we carried 15 mags)
In the chamber much faster, decidedly so but here was the ahh haw moment. 47% missed first and second round at 25 yds. "10 inch steel target. If it rings you hit it" Even with one in the chamber some folks were taking as long 10 seconds to empty the mag.
Not one in the chamber, some took as long as 4 seconds to chamber and 17 seconds to empty. Anyone with numbers like that in patrol or motors MUST do 24 hrs of remedial training. Larry was a beast and took no shit
I carried unchambered because the risk/vs reward didn't balance out for me when I had small children. It wasn't until I got older that I started carrying hot, because that concern was gone.
It all comes down to what you're comfortable with.
This is very understandably a different situation when small children are in the house hold. But while carrying on your person? It's has to be ready to go in a second. Bad guys don't wait!
Small children can’t defend themselves. That’s even more reason to carry with one in the chamber. Goofy.
As a father, it can be pretty uncomfortable having the children running around my legs with the gun pointed right at their head. When I’m out myself I carry one in the chamber no problem. But if I know they are gonna running around me, I need to climb on stuff at the park or have them sitting on my lap, I’ll take the longer draw over the risk. (My carry gun Glock 43x/45 do not have a safeties).
Again if I didn’t have toddlers around crawling over me, I don’t have any problem carrying a round in the chamber.
Ok. I get that. The fact still remains, while they are tangling up your legs, you may still have to protect them. Hope you keep in mind the gun ain't gonna go off by itself. Firearm designers do their best to idiot-proof their products, especially in todays market.
Whatever you choose to do, time spent practing drawing, acquiring, firing, no matter which side of the argument you come down on, will be the best thing you can do to stay alive. People who live by their abilities will tell you this.
Is that not why you carry?
I also have a young daughter who's always climbing on me, and as long as you have a good holster there's no way the trigger can be pulled. If you're that concerned about it move to a hammer fired gun with a manual safety that's easily operated when drawing. I moved from a xmacro to a Staccato CS and couldn't be happier with the upgrade. You should always carry with one in the chamber, though.
@@bowlinrl appreciate your input, those staccatos are sick, I’m happy with my current setup, I’m shooting competitions and training weekly, when kids get older I’ll happily switch back.
Mental Conditioning is the biggest reason on this decision. It’s a training mechanism to have your brain adapt to something you previously weren’t comfortable with until you get used to it. It’s like every job you first get into, and once you’re in it for a certain amount of time; it’s second nature. At least that was what some people tell me that I should “have one in the chamber no matter what”. But this is my belief…
Everyone has different life to live in. It’ll totally depend on where you live, what you believe in and what person you trust yourself to become. For me, as a father of 3, in an Asian household (which could be anti-gun to begin with) I cannot trust myself to carry one in the chamber while I’m in the house with kids roaming in the house. However, outside in public, I will carry one in the chamber. I carry a Glock 48 with a MFT Minimalist Holster, and I trust it. I didn’t have professional training, I improvised on my own time practicing and I know that rounds don’t go off unless I know I have a faulty gun. Which I don’t, I baby my toys so they can last.
Do what you want, train whenever you can. Stay safe everyone.
I live in the country in Oklahoma.We have feral hogs & stray or wid dogs in the area.Plus we are about halfway between four county jails & a prison.I have a Rock Island Armory 1911 .45 acp with a round in the chamber plus either 8 or 10 rounds in magazine,I carry at all times on our 15 acres.
I carry with a round in the chamber, and full mag, DA/SA pistol with hammer down (in DA mode). No safeties to get in the way; the 12.5 lb DA trigger IS THE SAFETY. It also had a forged steel hammer block, and firing pin block, acting as internal safeties, making it perfectly safe to carry chambered.
I really like DA/SA, because you just draw, verify your target and what lies beyond, then shoot. 12.5 lbs is pretty easy to pull under stress, and if you don't have emaciated little soy fingers. If I have the time, I can manually cock the hammer, which switches to the SA mode, which has a crisp 2.5 lb trigger with short reset.
However, I'm aware that DA is slower than SA by enough to be significant at point blank range when it comes to disarming attempts. The simple solution is if I need to hold a baddie at gunpoint until help arrives, just stay out of their reach. Problem solved, so DA/SA is the way to go.
While I know striker fire pistols have internal safeties, too, I just don't like the idea of walking around with energy stored behind the firing pin/striker, pointed right at the primer. DA/SA lets me keep the gun decocked, taking that stored energy out of the equation. It's a piece of mind thing, irrational as it may seem, knowing mechanically it's fine.
The Glock basically functions like a dual action tho in that the striker spring isn't charged and the trigger needs to be pulled to fully pull back the striker to have enough spring pressure to fire off a round. This is basically why people complain about the Glock trigger because having to pull that spring with the trigger makes it feel like ass compared to a striker design with a fully loaded striker and the trigger that only drops the sear to fire. The p320 is a fully loaded striker design and has been shooting people in the nuts lol but Glock doesn't do that unless someone is ignorant and doesn't have trigger discipline.
@@clutchboi4038 Interesting; I didn't know that about Glocks. I'm not a fan of Glocks because the grip is horribly uncomfortable, sights are ass, and the base price is like $100-$150 higher than better modern guns.
That's just my personal opinion, so please don't take it personally. If Glocks were perfect, they'd be the only handguns anyone buys. Sigs and Walthers just fit my hands better.
@@Gottaculat that's fine but you are also coming to the conclusion that Glock name brand is the only way to obtain the Glock operating mechanism. P80 frames for example fix the grupt issue you are talking about and there are tons of other Glock clone models with various grips etc. like I bought my frame, finished it then picked out a slide with good iron sights and premilled for an optic. This setup WITH an optic and aftermarket trigger cost less than a name brand Glock.
Like the only name brand Glock part I have is the mags 🤣. P80 frame, PSA dagger slide and barrel, overwatch precision tried and proven upgraded trigger, stainless steel locking block and pins to prevent corrosion all for less than many name brand guns. Hell a PSA dagger is a Glock clone and can be had for $250 when they go on sale and are solid besides the iffy recoil springs that can be replaced with a legit ISMI spring for $20.
@@Gottaculat when they say Glock perfection to me that means the system is perfect for duty. The trigger is pulled and it always goes bang and nothing else needs to be flipped or fiddled with. No nonsense infallible perfect operation. Ergonomics and accessories like sights can never be perfect because that needs to be adjusted for the user. With the the abundance of Glock clones and aftermarket it is perfect imo because now you can basically do anything with the platform.
Weapon status RED is dependent on threat assessment. 32 years Active Duty military/retired now; I don't carry one in the chamber. Lot of pros for; here's one con: negligent discharge. The same reason you keep your trigger finger out of the trigger well is why you keep your chamber clear.
That's stupid
@Sick66-qu4uh HAHAHAHILARIOUS...oh my, let me catch my breath. Ok...
That's a very intelligent, well articulated rebuttal. How can I argue against such logic. My opinion is based on my training, experience, career. What is "stupid" based on, your experience?
@@kenknowlton3085If you find the risk of negligent discharge that high you should get more familiar with your weapon system, but you’re exactly right the gun won’t shoot unloaded and that’s the problem. “Threat assessment” only goes so far and doesn’t give you the time lost practically clearing a malfunction at the start of the gunfight. If you have a quality holster and train with your equipment the risk of negligent discharge is as low as your firearm safety allow.
@vilecreature8640 I'm not worried about me having a negligent discharge. I've had lots of subordinates, outside the wire experience negligent discharges because they couldn't maintain proper weapon discipline. We had a local woman die in Walmart because her baby reached into her purse and pull the trigger on a concealed weapon.
It's highly unlikely that I will ever need to quick draw without determining situation first. I maintain tactical awareness at all times. Shooting isn't the only valuable training necessary for survival in a hostile environment.
@@kenknowlton3085 That story would have been prevented with a quality holster and her not leaving a bag with a gun in it next to her kid. The story your brought up only strengthens my stance, train with your gun, build good habits, buy quality gear. If you aren't worried about having a ND then why are you using it as a reason you don't carry with one in the chamber? Why are you factoring in other people's poor safety into your self defense?
This video is a reality check of real life self defense. I hardly ever carry with round in chamber but this video opened my eyes and made me think of a lot of different scenario’s that can get me killed for not having round in chamber so from here on out I’m carrying with round in chamber and I been a gun owner my whole life and good with guns but if my life is in danger a lot of that skill my be temporary forgotten so round chambered will probably make the difference of me dead or alive especially if brain freezes, panics or survival mode which is fight or flight so round chambered is extremely important
If you need any more evidence. Active Self Protection has hundreds of videos showing why you should carry one in the chamber
I started in firearms at my fathers knee when I was 5yo. When I was old enough to carry, and did so, I ALWAYS carried with one in the chamber. Being trained in the proper use and handling of firearms, I was comfortable in my handling of ANY firearm. Only those who are uncertain in their firearm skills don’t keep one in the chamber. Just sayin…
00:56 the Minecraft zombie sound while I was restarting my Minecraft server really threw me off. I was weirded out until i replayed the segment of the video.
When I started carrying my gun, I didn’t carry around in the chamber. Then when I went too my local gun shop and range the guy that sold me my gun asked me do I carry around in the chamber I told him no, he told me to take it home and put it in the closet. Since then I always carry around in the chamber
Gun shops are the worst place for any gun advice. People behind the counter are usually the least knowledgeable.
stupid advice
To be fair you are at least carrying, so him saying that was a bit out of line and it also depends on your comfort level. I only carry one in the chamber with a striker fired pistol if its not appendix carry, all my other guns which are mostly hammer fired I carry with one in the chamber while carrying appendix because I can hold down the hammer while taking the pistol out of my appendix holster but if the trigger snags on something I would immediately know due to the fact I am holding down the trigger and if the trigger snags cause the hammer to move back. You did nothing wrong and that guy really didn't have the right to tell you that, you are at least carrying which is better than not carrying.
Google negligent pistol discharge. Hard for that to happen with no round in the chamber. I'll chamber a round when I need it. Statistically , I am more likely to shoot myself handling a gun daily with a round in the chamber than I will ever even need a gun for self defense.
@@2ndtonone1000 So you got your gun inside your holster ...
You pull it out, what exactly do you think is going to get stuck on that trigger that will force it to push back to get it to fire while you are pulling UP on the gun out of the holster ???
The logic behind that is impossible. Maybe dropping the gun INTO the holster could pull the trigger back and fire but not while the gun is on the exit path ...
I've been carrying since 2020 and I don't carry one in the chamber. I carry appendix.
I certainly agree and believe the facts that 1-chambered is faster and situationally better than 0-chambered.
The key word Colion said was "comfort." My risk tolerance is at the level of trusting myself and training with those milliseconds to rack to execute on external forces. I simply don't trust myself or anything else involved in carrying appendix 1-chambered.
It's about appendix safety for me.
I carry 1-chambered if I'm training at the 3 oclock.
Comfort. I'm most comfortable protecting myself down there first.
If we all can get the job done in 3 seconds or less, I'm not complaining. If, God forbid, I got got within that x milliseconds of time, then I'm not mad at it. I still gained eternal life lol
God, Glock, and Self-Defense training. Tough barriers to one up anyway.
That's silly
My reason is that I don't want to see St. Peter that quickly.
Thanks for talking about this, As a new firearm owner it kinda feels like I`m being forced to carry AIWB one in the chamber every second of every day or I`m doing it wrong according to online Rambos, I do plan on carrying One Up, at the appropriate time when it makes sense...Not because anyone tells me to
I carry chambered. Just make sure you carry with a secure holster like a quality molded kydex holster. Those cheap, flimsy neoprene holsters some people use are dangerous, and can cause an accidental discharge with some types of handguns.
Aye love your videos Colion!
To each their own. I’ve practiced pulling and racking so much that the time saved with one already in the chamber seems negligible to me. Now I admit that in a situation when you are only able to use one hand that could be a problem. But at the end of the day I feel more comfortable not having a loaded gun aimed at my balls and I will take the extra .5 seconds to feel safer. But like I said, to each their own.
But you trained for it.
@@kellyBorgman Exactly. I think that if people don’t want to carry with one in the chamber that they should train extensively in order to overcome that disadvantage.
To each his own , I adjust accordingly , mostly empty pipe but I don't live in a hell hole.
i agree and in some guns you still have a safety you can engage if you choose ....
My first EDC was a ruger lcr , 22 magnum with 5 rounds. It was pretty hard to shoot because of a tough trigger, which is a safety feature. But when loaded, there was always one in the chamber. Now I carry a ruger lcp, 380 with a 6 round magazine, and one in the chamber. The trigger is pretty stiff but less stiff than the one of the lcr. Yet, it's still a good safety feature. I also have a 9 mm taurus g2c that I carry with a 12 round magazine, and one in the chamber. It has an external safety lever, which I don't engage when carrying this gun
I used to carry without a round in the chamber because I felt it was safer, but my best friend who happens to be in law enforcement, told me to always carry with a round chambered, because that time needed to chamber a round can mean the difference between life and death
5 words describing why...
Your life depends on it!
This is why i started carrying airweight revolvers.
Whew… talking about not having enough rounds….
Winter months like now, I carry two on my person most the time.. my hammerless snub .38 Taurus 856 is my go to in my jacket pocket, then Hellcat appendix.
One thing i always preach to others who dont carry combat ready. is i tell them to load their weapon cocked without a cartridge chambered, and carry it around awhile, and every night. check that its still cocked, once your confident it wont go bang without touching the noise lever, there's no difference in having it chambered at that point.
*edit* i see now while watching that you covered this as well, good to know i'm giving Colion approved advice.
If you carry without a round in the chamber, you might spend the rest of your life trying to rack the slide.
That's deep... 🤔
I appreciate you making sure that optic was clean. A clean optic is a happy optic
I began carrying without a round in the chamber. I did so because my gun did not have a mechanical safety. The safety was not engaging the trigger until ready to do so. I finally got past that discomfort/hesitation. Now I carry with 13, which is more than 12.
I did the same thing when I got my 380, didn't load it, carried it racked for a month, trigger never engaged, now I'm loaded always.
At first I started with no round in the chamber, then I started only looking for guns with a safety switch on them. Once I felt good with the safety plus the round in the chamber and after practicing with my different hand guns, I now feel comfortable enough to always have one in the chamber regardless of the safety mechanism provided. I do have a couple that, even with the trigger safety, I still am not completely confident in the firearm not going off. I know this is mostly psychological. However I have some that only have a trigger safety, such as Glocks, that I completely trust. After watching many videos and reading different articles I feel that every second counts even down to the millisecond. Therefore I intend to be as prepared as possible should I ever be put to the test.
Most defensive pistols have a heavy guide rod spring which necessitates locking the slide back, inserting the mag and releasing the slide lock,chambering that 1st round...also as you get older you tend to lose grip strength in your hands
The first handgun I bought so I could have fun shooting and be able to take for my self protection, was a gun with Double action and single action trigger. I can load one in the chamber, decock it, and when I want to shoot it, it has a long hard pull like a revolver so it won't just go off, and every shot after that is single action and quick.
I bought my first pistol in 1982 and carried it everywhere! I was working closely with my local sheriffs department, doing security for a large club, and I have always cried around in the chamber from the get-go! I was taught this by the sheriffs deputies that I worked around. The time it takes you to react, and then chamber a round will get you killed.
Good shit. Keep it teady. Some call it paranoid, I call it prepared. If you stay ready, you don't have to get ready.
When I started to carry, I went about the first 3 days with no round in the chamber... that was back in July 2021.
If you carry one chambered or if you don't, it's a personal choice. However, I want every advantage that I can get when it comes to a threat.