Thanks for the video mate. I did an arm on my 447 2015 yesterday. Oh man getting the rear bush in the housing for the vertical bolt was a challenge. In my case I didn’t release the track rod but seemed as though the sway bar was in the way anyway of me getting the arm level to get in the bracket. I used an allen key and jemmied it in the end and got it. Next side I may trial taking the track rod out and see how I go. Tracking needs doing anyway so. Appreciate mines a different model, anyway, my point is, I don’t blame you for taking the knuckle off! It’s the sway bar in the way that was confusing me yesterday although it may be as I had the full front end up so no weight on it?
Mine is a 2014 Vito with 105k, the clamp bolt was an absolute a-hole to get of, needed a 2ft beaker bar and had to drift bolt out and then wedge the clamp open with a specially ground wedge to get lower joint off. Thankfully I attempted this at work as we have machine shop. Appreciate the video but it was a bit more than nuts and bolts. Also had to go and buy 21mm open ended and ring spanner’s which are not on many tool kits and also make sure you have double hex 18mm socket. Several hours in so far and only just got to fitting first arm.
You can get control arms from Meyle which have ball joints bolted on n easily changed. They're more expensive but worth in long run and overall much better quality
Why did you take the whole hub off? I've not done this on a W639 yet, but normally you just wedge a flat screwdriver horisontally into the clamp for the all joint, and give it a few light taps so it comes out.
Hello, as ever when editing these things some footage sometimes gets left out for a variety of reasons. I had tried to loosen the joint as you have suggested but in this instance I couldn't manage to get it to budge, hence I ended up removing the hub so as to be able to use the extra force as depicted in the video. I agree with you and previous comments that ideally the hub can be left in position and that way the camber and track angles are preserved. In retrospect I should have made some reference to all of this, but in any case, at least hopefully the worst case scenario has been covered and if you can manage to get it done in a more simple way then that's a bonus. Thanks for your comments I'm always happy to receive guidance and pointers. As you can see from the fairly broad array of things I tinker with I'm no expert in anything particular..... I just enjoy having a go at stuff and learning on the way. Good luck
What year was your vito cab ,took my vito for mot yesterday and it’s passed but it says suspension arm pin bush worn but not resulting in excessive movement, so I’m expecting to replace mine soon , mine is a 15 plate , just wondering what control arm /wishbone I’ll need
Hello. Mine was a 64 plate (2014) so a 113 ( ie 2nd gen Vito cab). Same as yours by the sound of it, as the 114 (3rd gen ) appeared on 66 plates. This is the last arm I ordered, remember they are side specific : www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164375661557?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=wJiZ5q5jTRy&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=RxFk3GAASxi&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@@fixitfallows when I follow the eBay link and then have to check if it fits etc , it says it doesn’t, but yes mine is the same as yours, although you’ve gone over to the txe now , I’m hoping the testing centre won’t fail it as it’s passed it’s not, as u can clearly see the cracking, but the mot guy said it’s ok .
@@jasoncowell-hi4tf eBay won't know you have a "taxi". Normal Vitos were 114s by 2015, Penso and whoever bought a load of old gen 113s to convert to Taxis, as usual the Taxi trade gets given the old stuff (think the TX2 with the out of date Ford engine and it's issues !!!) As for your overhaul.... they could fail it yet.... I had a failure on the rear centre diff mount rubbers, but it had passed the MOT 🤷🏼♂️...... 🤞🏼🤞🏼
I'm sorry to say that I do not. For each of the nuts, which were all removed and finally tightened manually by spanner and or breaker bar, I tightened them back up based upon feel and recollection of the force required to undo them. Suffice to say they were all very tight, as you would imagine in these high stress locations Whilst you will have seen me using a torque gun during the filming, this model is of insufficient power to have loosened these nuts initially, it is not of professional spec.
2014..... It's a 113, but by then I think Merc had moved onto the 114 for most variants of the w639. As mine is configured as a London Taxi I think the coachbuilder which did the conversions to the taxi were using the previous generation model at a much later point.
Thanks for the video mate. I did an arm on my 447 2015 yesterday. Oh man getting the rear bush in the housing for the vertical bolt was a challenge. In my case I didn’t release the track rod but seemed as though the sway bar was in the way anyway of me getting the arm level to get in the bracket.
I used an allen key and jemmied it in the end and got it.
Next side I may trial taking the track rod out and see how I go. Tracking needs doing anyway so.
Appreciate mines a different model, anyway, my point is, I don’t blame you for taking the knuckle off! It’s the sway bar in the way that was confusing me yesterday although it may be as I had the full front end up so no weight on it?
Mine is a 2014 Vito with 105k, the clamp bolt was an absolute a-hole to get of, needed a 2ft beaker bar and had to drift bolt out and then wedge the clamp open with a specially ground wedge to get lower joint off. Thankfully I attempted this at work as we have machine shop. Appreciate the video but it was a bit more than nuts and bolts. Also had to go and buy 21mm open ended and ring spanner’s which are not on many tool kits and also make sure you have double hex 18mm socket. Several hours in so far and only just got to fitting first arm.
Thanks again. Looks like I'm following in your footsteps! (last 'thanks' was from one of my other accounts)
You can get control arms from Meyle which have ball joints bolted on n easily changed. They're more expensive but worth in long run and overall much better quality
Why did you take the whole hub off? I've not done this on a W639 yet, but normally you just wedge a flat screwdriver horisontally into the clamp for the all joint, and give it a few light taps so it comes out.
Hello, as ever when editing these things some footage sometimes gets left out for a variety of reasons.
I had tried to loosen the joint as you have suggested but in this instance I couldn't manage to get it to budge, hence I ended up removing the hub so as to be able to use the extra force as depicted in the video.
I agree with you and previous comments that ideally the hub can be left in position and that way the camber and track angles are preserved.
In retrospect I should have made some reference to all of this, but in any case, at least hopefully the worst case scenario has been covered and if you can manage to get it done in a more simple way then that's a bonus.
Thanks for your comments I'm always happy to receive guidance and pointers. As you can see from the fairly broad array of things I tinker with I'm no expert in anything particular..... I just enjoy having a go at stuff and learning on the way.
Good luck
What year was your vito cab ,took my vito for mot yesterday and it’s passed but it says suspension arm pin bush worn but not resulting in excessive movement, so I’m expecting to replace mine soon , mine is a 15 plate , just wondering what control arm /wishbone I’ll need
Hello. Mine was a 64 plate (2014) so a 113 ( ie 2nd gen Vito cab). Same as yours by the sound of it, as the 114 (3rd gen ) appeared on 66 plates.
This is the last arm I ordered, remember they are side specific :
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164375661557?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=wJiZ5q5jTRy&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=RxFk3GAASxi&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@@fixitfallows when I follow the eBay link and then have to check if it fits etc , it says it doesn’t, but yes mine is the same as yours, although you’ve gone over to the txe now , I’m hoping the testing centre won’t fail it as it’s passed it’s not, as u can clearly see the cracking, but the mot guy said it’s ok .
@@jasoncowell-hi4tf eBay won't know you have a "taxi". Normal Vitos were 114s by 2015, Penso and whoever bought a load of old gen 113s to convert to Taxis, as usual the Taxi trade gets given the old stuff (think the TX2 with the out of date Ford engine and it's issues !!!)
As for your overhaul.... they could fail it yet.... I had a failure on the rear centre diff mount rubbers, but it had passed the MOT 🤷🏼♂️...... 🤞🏼🤞🏼
Is viano air suspension comfortable for rear passenger?
I'm sorry, my Vito does not have air suspension, so I would not know.
Do you know the tightening torque?
I'm sorry to say that I do not. For each of the nuts, which were all removed and finally tightened manually by spanner and or breaker bar, I tightened them back up based upon feel and recollection of the force required to undo them. Suffice to say they were all very tight, as you would imagine in these high stress locations
Whilst you will have seen me using a torque gun during the filming, this model is of insufficient power to have loosened these nuts initially, it is not of professional spec.
@@fixitfallows thank you. exchange is complete.
wheel bolts for van 140nm, wishbone all three bolts 95nm, drop links 45nm, track rod ends 65nm
@@paulroman7587 thank you so much!!
You don't need to take off the Hub assembly or track control arm so you won't upset the camber setting
What year is your van?.
2014..... It's a 113, but by then I think Merc had moved onto the 114 for most variants of the w639. As mine is configured as a London Taxi I think the coachbuilder which did the conversions to the taxi were using the previous generation model at a much later point.
@@fixitfallows OK, thanks.