I have things to do! Yet, I can’t break away from these lectures! Dr. Peterson is so concise and precise. I had studied Jungian psychology years ago, (Robert A Johnson books were incredible) and even though I have kept this knowledge at my peripheral, I got on with a busy life. Now, today, isolated for the most part due to the Covid-19 mandates, I see the extreme relevance this information provides. It allows one to comprehend the unconscious behavior going on in our current world. The many people that are breaking down the current society through anarchy, violence, and idiotic mandates. And, yes, a result-led conversation for change of the previous paradigm is indisputable. However, those screaming for change and a complete dissolution of our current society seem to be without a map of self-awareness. I fear they are embracing the chaos without a comprehensible “end game”, which, will be extremely damaging to all cultures, with societal order falling apart. These unchallenged voices know not what they do, ultimately, they want to lead the masses over the edge into the abyss, and those left, or leftist (: actually, any extremist) who pick up the pieces will be the cunning tyrannical. We now have tremendous freedoms, yet it will take tremendous contrast for these “revolutionaries” for change to finally “see what they once had”. It’s the ignorance of the governing officials leading or literally abdicating leadership of the laws of land, that will leave us in a very grim state, indeed. Plato had it right about democracy and why he wrote it was unsustainable (when the mob rules, civilizations fall). There should be REQUIREMENTS for those seeking elected offices, from the municipal level and up. I’ll end my rambling, with a quasi-summation: Jordan B. Peterson or others of his equal should invent /create a system with a set of tests and/or knowledge skill-set requirements for those wishing to entertain/enter political office. Wisdom is underrated these days...
You are right on ...thats not rambling, just pure logic, they know not what they are doing. Most modern politicians are in it for the power and money, not because they want to better society anymore. If the few smart ones don't get us back on track we are in for some kind of a revolution and it wont be pretty.
Piagetian assimilation and accommodation is how JBP explains the death and resurrection of Christ, and how JBP demonstrates that pattern is present at all levels of life.
Does Buddha's dad keep him in the garden for so long for the same reason that parents shield their children? So that when they eventually do go out into the real world on their own the shock difference is so great it smashes their consciousness and so develops them more? If parents never did create the gilded cage then that could not happen?
maybe. some people never have that gilded cage childhood (troubled family life, lack of parenting, lack of resources, etc.) and are forced to grow up at an early age. some people appear to reach spiritual/mental maturity as soon as their early 20s (some artists are like this), while others might not get there until they're much older. if we go by many of the classic religions, it seems that most people generally get there in their early 30s.
That's certainly the perspective of the good outcome of that seclusion, on the other hand what you've got is their standard being the low of mediocrity at which they have been sheltered, the parents spare themselves loss at the cost of the nurturing of their child's development.
thats exactly why I came in here. have u gotten any wiser in that context? (i´ll stumbled over peterson around half a year ago so i only know him, well, as the guy that he now looks/conveys as. in the thumbnail he almost looks adolescent in comparison :o
23:18 I think the "tree of life" is ayahuasca uk.pinterest.com/aslhanatl/aya/ It looks just like a snake climbing up a tree, and it WILL give the drinker an increased level of consciousness. All you have to do is believe that there used to be a sea crossing society which was capable of transporting this around the world a few thousand years ago from Peru and your worldview is complete. There is a pyramid in Egypt that PROVES we easily had that level of tech back then to do that sort of thing... It's ayahuasca I tell ya! :)
good observation! A nice idea, but I think it's unlikely because it's too literal an interpretation even if it did have something to do with it. When you have a metaphor or allegory it always ruins it if you assume parts of it are literal, which is why literalist Christians miss all the important wisdom of the Bible by insisting it's a history book. To imagine the truth in Genesis is in assuming it's a literal description makes it childish nonsense. Why did God 6 days to create the earth and universe? Why did God need 1 day to rest? How did God see his creation was "good" unless he knew what "bad" meant? Why was paradise a garden? Why was it a snake that tempted Eve? Why was it a tree that they were forbidden to eat the fruit of? Why did eating of this fruit cause suffering to enter the "world" Adam and Eve inhabited? It's meaningless if what's important about the story is the literal representation It's like reading something like George Orwell's Animal Farm and thinking the important thing is the literal story being told and the literal characters in that story, rather than realising the deeper meaning in what it represents. It's like thinking the story of the boy who cried wolf is either a historical account, or that the important thing is the situation and story of the boy and not a parable we know as "crying wolf". So what I'm saying is to decide "the tree" and the "snake" represent literally the ayahuasca vine means... 1. You lose any deeper abstract metaphorical/allegorical understanding of what the tree and snake could represent. 2. Fails to explain why the tree and a snake have similar symbolic significance in many cultures which didn't have the ayahuasca vine. It's useful to ask what these myths and legends might have been referring to literally or not. And whatever the Garden of Eden story meant to people certainly some of it was intended to be of metaphorical significance rather than literal. For example, even if they really believed in a literal tree, calling it the "tree of knowledge" shows on some level that the issue of Adam and Eve eating the forbidden fruit of the tree was always intended to be understood as symbolically important, rather than as a story about a literal magical apple tree. What part of the story was intended to move from literal to allegory we dont know, and probably it would be understood differently throughout the ages. The most literal meaningful interpretation is one where everything that happens is understood to be a factual historical account but at the same time from Gods perspective everything was done so in a way that it all has metaphorical/allegorical significance. So regardless of what the writers meant originally (which btw doesn't make a lot of sense to say with a story that came from a long period of evolving oral tradition) what they thought they meant is almost irrelevant. If they thought God literally created the world and everything in it in 6 days and rested on the 7th, why did they think that made the most sense? They wrote it that way for a reason. Even if there was meant to be a literal tree with literal fruit it was still created by God to serve a symbolic representation of something. No matter how you look at it the truth is in looking at these things in terms of allegory and metaphor. Otherwise it's like trying to understand the meaning in an emotion by means of the mechanics of chemistry, which is like trying to understand a video game by looking at the code, or trying to understand music by scientifically deconstructing the wave form. A doctor might be able to tell you what's going on mechanically when you open and close your hand, yet that knowledge doesn't enable him to do it any better than you can. A neurologist might be able to describe the brain chemistry involved when you take MDMA but will be completely unable to know what that "means" unless he experiences it himself.
Peterson seems less conservative here than in his newer videos. This speaks to me a little more, but Peterson definitely doesn't go unappreciated by me in his current state. Great video series :)
@@travisbruceleepre 2018 Peterson = gold Peterson 🌀(wise Peterson- my favorite type of Peterson) Post 2018 Peterson = resentful political propaganda Peterson (whiny group ideologue)
it would be nice to know where and when this and other lectures was done. There is a roman numeral 2004 date at the end but not sure if that was the year of the lecture or the year when the video was put together for publishing. He has some yt videos from as far back as 1996 I think.
Man! Dude, take a beath! It's like a knowledge tsunami of rapid fire syllables, adjectives and conjunctions coming at me fast, so fast I have a pimordial urge to sceam and run away but, am unable due to a morbid curiosity that has paralyzed my soul such that to look away from the fantastic train wreck of truth would surely find me forever turned to stone and cast into the fiery pits of hell, never to be heard of or seen again, till the end of days!
Now and then I attempt listening to Peterson yet again. He speaks so much nonsense though I always quit early on. For example at the beginning of this he states that human self-consciousness is the "only" thing which seperates us from animals. What?! Utter nonsense! Apart from saying things which are flat out false he also uses so many words and yet ends up never really saying anything.
Nice to see Peterson young, really nice person , but with all respect my question is, how long those childish religious stories are going to entertain us ... Honestly I lost any interest for them as those stories are not about wisdom, they are about lack of basic understanding of how human mind works. At least listen to Marvin Minsky for a start ...
Regarding the Buddah story. Let's see - So God told Adam & Eve not to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil so that they would. They did, thus activating the very necessary survival feature object (ego) splitting. (Our brains can't process each new reality fast enough to decide flight or fight or pet. Predjudice is absolutely necessary - we often fail to update it to insure it is healthy and not toxic ). So shouldn't we adjust our theology /mythology to compensate for that condition ? Hint : Everywhere you see "Satan" in the Bible, substitute "the authenticator". A lot of passages make a lot more sense, especially Job. The what is the goal ? As John Bradshaw often stated, the fundamental human problem is authenticity, so the goal is to become real. You folks who think our "reality" is a hologram or simulation should get that, but do you get that is not any different from when we began our prayers with "Almighty God, in whom we live, move, and have our being ? If not, read about your absolutizing instinct in "Images of Hope" by William Lynch SJ, Notre Dame Press. What we absolutize become our idols.
Buddha didn’t attain anything, he simply woke up from the dream of being a somebody to the deathless, unborn reality of formless aware presence. It was his (and everything’s) true nature all along. According to the stories though he didn’t think anyone would get this and was reluctant to attempt to share that insight in vain. However he was mysteriously encouraged to try to help others see this universal truth for themselves by something which assured him there would be those who would “get” it. Some who would be liberated from birth & death - not just as an intellectual understanding (which is not liberating) but through direct experience. Those who had “little dust in their eyes”.
Prof. Peterson here presents a highly distorted and misleading account of the Buddha's early years. Nowadays it is not difficult to go to the source for a more authentic version. While the pre-enlightenment part of the bio is heavily mythologized even in the Pali scriptures, it would be much more interesting to hear Peterson's interpretation of that than the weird Disney version in this lecture. For those interested, here is a readable source based on the Pali scriptures and written by a very credible author. It is available on Amazon. Bhikkhu Ñanamoli The Life of the Buddha: According to the Pali Canon The Pali suttas and commentaries on them are widely and freely available on the Web. Just do some searching.
Thanks for this. I do respect Peterson in some respects, but approach his theories with some reticence. I think it's important to cross reference with other scholarly takes on these beliefs and then make up one's own mind.
I don't believe so. If you listen to the 30 seconds before, he talks about how people have traded things like work and food for information -> information allows us to transform ourselves. Eating the forbidden fruit -> allows the body to transform. That being said, at no point in the lead up did he mention the case of partaking in forbidden actions specifically for transformation in a negative context. For example, Buddha leaving the walls was forbidden but lead to his enlightenment, Adam and Eve lost their innocence but gained morality. Note, he also mentioned how humans are drawn to the forbidden. I think the basic idea is that humans partake in forbidden actions whether or not it's right or wrong, but in all cases that leads to a transformation of some sort. E.g. "Hang on a second maybe I really shouldn't do that" or "hmm that's not so bad I was missing out before". Hope that helps
@@francisemv1788 Glad it helped. The dragon thing sounds like a reference to another of his lectures. This was randomly recommended to me by youtube so I'm not all too familiar with the rest of his stuff. Do you mean to say that like fighting a dragon or a demon, forbidden actions are like adventures in that they change you?
@@francisemv1788 I don't know if I reallly do understand it that well. It is after all, one portion of one lecture. Sometimes I wonder why I chose to major in maths...
Jesus, I don't know how long ago this was but you can tell JP is younger (aside from the obvious visual), complex articulations just FLYING all over the place at the speed of light.
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This series is simply brilliant.
im not gay, but omg this man age like fine wine. I just want a sip of his knowledge.
that is pretty gay, notin wrong with it though
I'm sure knowledge is the only thing you want a sip of...
No homo
I am eating the fruit of this video right now and being transformed by it
I´m, climbing the post of my terrace to see if I can get a little attention from above... These classes are amazingly inspiring!!
20:12 "Women: Trouble." - Jordan B Peterson
So glad I decided to start right at the beginning. So much more detail here, undistilled.
I just hope Peterson knows how much he is appreciated and how useful we all find these lectures. The dudes a modern day saint and a true role model.
“A good father wants his child to fall in love with life.” -JBP
I have things to do! Yet, I can’t break away from these lectures! Dr. Peterson is so concise and precise. I had studied Jungian psychology years ago, (Robert A Johnson books were incredible) and even though I have kept this knowledge at my peripheral, I got on with a busy life. Now, today, isolated for the most part due to the Covid-19 mandates, I see the extreme relevance this information provides. It allows one to comprehend the unconscious behavior going on in our current world. The many people that are breaking down the current society through anarchy, violence, and idiotic mandates. And, yes, a result-led conversation for change of the previous paradigm is indisputable. However, those screaming for change and a complete dissolution of our current society seem to be without a map of self-awareness. I fear they are embracing the chaos without a comprehensible “end game”, which, will be extremely damaging to all cultures, with societal order falling apart. These unchallenged voices know not what they do, ultimately, they want to lead the masses over the edge into the abyss, and those left, or leftist (: actually, any extremist) who pick up the pieces will be the cunning tyrannical. We now have tremendous freedoms, yet it will take tremendous contrast for these “revolutionaries” for change to finally “see what they once had”.
It’s the ignorance of the governing officials leading or literally abdicating leadership of the laws of land, that will leave us in a very grim state, indeed. Plato had it right about democracy and why he wrote it was unsustainable (when the mob rules, civilizations fall).
There should be REQUIREMENTS for those seeking elected offices, from the municipal level and up. I’ll end my rambling, with a quasi-summation: Jordan B. Peterson or others of his equal should invent /create a system with a set of tests and/or knowledge skill-set requirements for those wishing to entertain/enter political office. Wisdom is underrated these days...
You are right on ...thats not rambling, just pure logic, they know not what they are doing. Most modern politicians are in it for the power and money, not because they want to better society anymore. If the few smart ones don't get us back on track we are in for some kind of a revolution and it wont be pretty.
Your comment is excellent and accurate, I totally agree.
For many eons Europeans subsisted on chestnuts .A tree may have symbolized a stable source.
A better comment section than the new videos
No kidding mate
I'm surprised these don't have more views I've found them fantastic I keep coming back to go over them
these will get more views... i'm here one year after your comment at 18,560 views at present.
Piagetian assimilation and accommodation is how JBP explains the death and resurrection of Christ, and how JBP demonstrates that pattern is present at all levels of life.
I love the comments section of these less viewed videos.
Shows that the mainstream society is ignorant.
When Jerry Seinfeld faces an intelligent and educated audience at the standup comedy club ...
gotta love old school JBP !!!
Does Buddha's dad keep him in the garden for so long for the same reason that parents shield their children? So that when they eventually do go out into the real world on their own the shock difference is so great it smashes their consciousness and so develops them more? If parents never did create the gilded cage then that could not happen?
maybe. some people never have that gilded cage childhood (troubled family life, lack of parenting, lack of resources, etc.) and are forced to grow up at an early age. some people appear to reach spiritual/mental maturity as soon as their early 20s (some artists are like this), while others might not get there until they're much older. if we go by many of the classic religions, it seems that most people generally get there in their early 30s.
That's certainly the perspective of the good outcome of that seclusion, on the other hand what you've got is their standard being the low of mediocrity at which they have been sheltered, the parents spare themselves loss at the cost of the nurturing of their child's development.
i am in love with this man
Thanks for leaving all this amazing lectures free online for ud
Is this Jordan Peterson or Jerry Seinfeld?
Anyone know what year this was recorded?
thats exactly why I came in here. have u gotten any wiser in that context?
(i´ll stumbled over peterson around half a year ago so i only know him, well, as the guy that he now looks/conveys as.
in the thumbnail he almost looks adolescent in comparison :o
2004, tvo.org/programs/maps-of-meaning
Amazinggg
23:18 I think the "tree of life" is ayahuasca uk.pinterest.com/aslhanatl/aya/
It looks just like a snake climbing up a tree, and it WILL give the drinker an increased level of consciousness. All you have to do is believe that there used to be a sea crossing society which was capable of transporting this around the world a few thousand years ago from Peru and your worldview is complete. There is a pyramid in Egypt that PROVES we easily had that level of tech back then to do that sort of thing...
It's ayahuasca I tell ya! :)
good observation! A nice idea, but I think it's unlikely because it's too literal an interpretation even if it did have something to do with it. When you have a metaphor or allegory it always ruins it if you assume parts of it are literal, which is why literalist Christians miss all the important wisdom of the Bible by insisting it's a history book. To imagine the truth in Genesis is in assuming it's a literal description makes it childish nonsense.
Why did God 6 days to create the earth and universe? Why did God need 1 day to rest? How did God see his creation was "good" unless he knew what "bad" meant? Why was paradise a garden? Why was it a snake that tempted Eve? Why was it a tree that they were forbidden to eat the fruit of? Why did eating of this fruit cause suffering to enter the "world" Adam and Eve inhabited? It's meaningless if what's important about the story is the literal representation
It's like reading something like George Orwell's Animal Farm and thinking the important thing is the literal story being told and the literal characters in that story, rather than realising the deeper meaning in what it represents. It's like thinking the story of the boy who cried wolf is either a historical account, or that the important thing is the situation and story of the boy and not a parable we know as "crying wolf".
So what I'm saying is to decide "the tree" and the "snake" represent literally the ayahuasca vine means...
1. You lose any deeper abstract metaphorical/allegorical understanding of what the tree and snake could represent.
2. Fails to explain why the tree and a snake have similar symbolic significance in many cultures which didn't have the ayahuasca vine.
It's useful to ask what these myths and legends might have been referring to literally or not. And whatever the Garden of Eden story meant to people certainly some of it was intended to be of metaphorical significance rather than literal. For example, even if they really believed in a literal tree, calling it the "tree of knowledge" shows on some level that the issue of Adam and Eve eating the forbidden fruit of the tree was always intended to be understood as symbolically important, rather than as a story about a literal magical apple tree. What part of the story was intended to move from literal to allegory we dont know, and probably it would be understood differently throughout the ages. The most literal meaningful interpretation is one where everything that happens is understood to be a factual historical account but at the same time from Gods perspective everything was done so in a way that it all has metaphorical/allegorical significance. So regardless of what the writers meant originally (which btw doesn't make a lot of sense to say with a story that came from a long period of evolving oral tradition) what they thought they meant is almost irrelevant. If they thought God literally created the world and everything in it in 6 days and rested on the 7th, why did they think that made the most sense? They wrote it that way for a reason. Even if there was meant to be a literal tree with literal fruit it was still created by God to serve a symbolic representation of something.
No matter how you look at it the truth is in looking at these things in terms of allegory and metaphor. Otherwise it's like trying to understand the meaning in an emotion by means of the mechanics of chemistry, which is like trying to understand a video game by looking at the code, or trying to understand music by scientifically deconstructing the wave form. A doctor might be able to tell you what's going on mechanically when you open and close your hand, yet that knowledge doesn't enable him to do it any better than you can. A neurologist might be able to describe the brain chemistry involved when you take MDMA but will be completely unable to know what that "means" unless he experiences it himself.
Peterson seems less conservative here than in his newer videos. This speaks to me a little more, but Peterson definitely doesn't go unappreciated by me in his current state. Great video series :)
Yeah totally agree. I appreciate what he's been doing recently. But this is definitely the kind of JP content that interests and fascinates me most.
@@travisbruceleepre 2018 Peterson = gold Peterson 🌀(wise Peterson- my favorite type of Peterson)
Post 2018 Peterson = resentful political propaganda Peterson (whiny group ideologue)
Thank you for posting this lecture.
it would be nice to know where and when this and other lectures was done. There is a roman numeral 2004 date at the end but not sure if that was the year of the lecture or the year when the video was put together for publishing. He has some yt videos from as far back as 1996 I think.
This is the most helpful episode of the whole program for me especially the story of Buddha.
This man has aged like fine wine
Whats this music at the beginning?
Man! Dude, take a beath! It's like a knowledge tsunami of rapid fire syllables, adjectives and conjunctions coming at me fast, so fast I have a pimordial urge to sceam and run away but, am unable due to a morbid curiosity that has paralyzed my soul such that to look away from the fantastic train wreck of truth would surely find me forever turned to stone and cast into the fiery pits of hell, never to be heard of or seen again, till the end of days!
D. Love so well put!
Hahahaha!
word.
now imagine that english isnt your native tounge and all-fuckin-righty-then, enjoy !
Duuude, bro... man! :p
Now and then I attempt listening to Peterson yet again. He speaks so much nonsense though I always quit early on. For example at the beginning of this he states that human self-consciousness is the "only" thing which seperates us from animals. What?! Utter nonsense!
Apart from saying things which are flat out false he also uses so many words and yet ends up never really saying anything.
Nice to see Peterson young, really nice person , but with all respect my question is, how long those childish religious stories are going to entertain us ... Honestly I lost any interest for them as those stories are not about wisdom, they are about lack of basic understanding of how human mind works. At least listen to Marvin Minsky for a start ...
..... GET HIIIIIM! haha :p
He looks like a vampire or a priest here. Why those two extremes? Are they? Btw, it's not a bad look at all. He looks good.
Regarding the Buddah story. Let's see - So God told Adam & Eve not to eat from the tree of the
knowledge of good and evil so that they would. They did, thus activating
the very necessary survival feature object (ego) splitting. (Our brains
can't process each new reality fast enough to decide flight or fight or
pet. Predjudice is absolutely necessary - we often fail to update it to
insure it is healthy and not toxic ). So shouldn't we adjust our
theology /mythology to compensate for that condition ? Hint : Everywhere
you see "Satan" in the Bible, substitute "the authenticator". A lot of
passages make a lot more sense, especially Job. The what is the goal ?
As John Bradshaw often stated, the fundamental human problem is
authenticity, so the goal is to become real. You folks who think our
"reality" is a hologram or simulation should get that, but do you get
that is not any different from when we began our prayers with "Almighty
God, in whom we live, move, and have our being ? If not, read about your
absolutizing instinct in "Images of Hope" by William Lynch SJ, Notre
Dame Press. What we absolutize become our idols.
Handsome. 😍 Brilliant mind. 👏 Perfect combo.💌
Jordan is the goat
Buddha didn’t attain anything, he simply woke up from the dream of being a somebody to the deathless, unborn reality of formless aware presence. It was his (and everything’s) true nature all along. According to the stories though he didn’t think anyone would get this and was reluctant to attempt to share that insight in vain. However he was mysteriously encouraged to try to help others see this universal truth for themselves by something which assured him there would be those who would “get” it. Some who would be liberated from birth & death - not just as an intellectual understanding (which is not liberating) but through direct experience. Those who had “little dust in their eyes”.
Order in the front, chaos in the back.
favourite one so far
This series reminds me a lot of Joseph Campbell's "Mythos". Similar vibe. Highly recommended
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you, Jordan. I’m really enjoying your old videos. ❤️✝️❤️
Ok I may have a lil crush, this man always spits facts
I wonder how would you look like with a shorter haircut
hez so handsome !! 🥰
Your comment here is the proof that air and punjabis can be found anywhere
@@ritikthakur6261 haha 😂 good to see you too !
Prof. Peterson here presents a highly distorted and misleading account of the Buddha's early years. Nowadays it is not difficult to go to the source for a more authentic version. While the pre-enlightenment part of the bio is heavily mythologized even in the Pali scriptures, it would be much more interesting to hear Peterson's interpretation of that than the weird Disney version in this lecture. For those interested, here is a readable source based on the Pali scriptures and written by a very credible author. It is available on Amazon.
Bhikkhu Ñanamoli
The Life of the Buddha: According to the Pali Canon
The Pali suttas and commentaries on them are widely and freely available on the Web. Just do some searching.
Thanks for this. I do respect Peterson in some respects, but approach his theories with some reticence. I think it's important to cross reference with other scholarly takes on these beliefs and then make up one's own mind.
Which part of it is distorted?
I was raised as a buddhist and what he said is pretty much same with what i was taught and read
when was this? what age was he in this?
What year is it?
Browns jersey at 3:45!
25:55 is he talking about eating forbidden then becoming forbidden?
I don't believe so. If you listen to the 30 seconds before, he talks about how people have traded things like work and food for information -> information allows us to transform ourselves. Eating the forbidden fruit -> allows the body to transform. That being said, at no point in the lead up did he mention the case of partaking in forbidden actions specifically for transformation in a negative context. For example, Buddha leaving the walls was forbidden but lead to his enlightenment, Adam and Eve lost their innocence but gained morality. Note, he also mentioned how humans are drawn to the forbidden. I think the basic idea is that humans partake in forbidden actions whether or not it's right or wrong, but in all cases that leads to a transformation of some sort. E.g. "Hang on a second maybe I really shouldn't do that" or "hmm that's not so bad I was missing out before". Hope that helps
@@bingbong2179 Appreciate these insights. Feels kind of like confronting the dragon in a sense.
@@francisemv1788 Glad it helped. The dragon thing sounds like a reference to another of his lectures. This was randomly recommended to me by youtube so I'm not all too familiar with the rest of his stuff. Do you mean to say that like fighting a dragon or a demon, forbidden actions are like adventures in that they change you?
@@bingbong2179 Can't believe you're new to the material and still understand it so well :]
@@francisemv1788 I don't know if I reallly do understand it that well. It is after all, one portion of one lecture. Sometimes I wonder why I chose to major in maths...
Jesus, I don't know how long ago this was but you can tell JP is younger (aside from the obvious visual), complex articulations just FLYING all over the place at the speed of light.
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