Whis explains why there is NO ONE stronger than Gohan across the 12 Universes

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  • @PrinceHuey
    @PrinceHuey 4 місяці тому +2127

    People are forgetting that the reason Gohan has so much potential is because he's the only hybrid saiyan born with a tail, which in so many ways allows him to access all of the saiyans transformation and with his human emotions he can do what Goku and Vegeta can't

    • @garrettanderson1531
      @garrettanderson1531 4 місяці тому +288

      He had a tail because the forgetful artist gave him 1 and forgot trunks an goten needed 1 😂😂😂😂 I that simple 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Sm0key_Rates
      @Sm0key_Rates 4 місяці тому +58

      That can be just due to writing because by time we meet Goten he’s old enough to not have a tail. Trunks idk could’ve been cut at birth🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @AraaJay
      @AraaJay 4 місяці тому +91

      Goten a trunks were born with power levels that exceeded the need for tails. Like the sadala saiyans

    • @KALICOE
      @KALICOE 4 місяці тому +32

      Goten and trunks tails were cut out the gate

    • @KALICOE
      @KALICOE 4 місяці тому +20

      ​@AraaJay they are universe 7 they moms cut it off earth moon is always out

  • @1harv100
    @1harv100 3 місяці тому +1218

    Gohan isn’t just half human. He’s the son of Chi-Chi (who is no slouch) and the grandson of the invincible Ox King (who is one of the most powerful humans on earth). People seem to forget that Goku married into a powerhouse family.

    • @deiontelewis9439
      @deiontelewis9439 3 місяці тому +38

      LMFAO

    • @Ducky-quackk
      @Ducky-quackk 3 місяці тому +81

      Lmao pan will be way stronger than Gohan ever could be, you think chi chi and ox are amazing, you got pan with the Gohan as a father and videl as mom, the grand daughter of Goku and Earth's strongest warrior Mr Satan aka daddy Hercule

    • @TheRealDyscyples
      @TheRealDyscyples 3 місяці тому +16

      @@deiontelewis9439all of which are nothing compared to a Saiyan

    • @cody3504
      @cody3504 3 місяці тому +8

      It's crazy I'd love to see lore behind like The Real Reason why Ox King Wanted Goku To Marry Chi-Chi and we can get more Ox King and Chi-Chi lore lol

    • @johngrimes412
      @johngrimes412 3 місяці тому +7

      But all the younger ones leveled up faster. The more likely reason is the writers just ran out of ideas on scaling in battles.

  • @GriffintheBased
    @GriffintheBased 2 місяці тому +255

    Gohan's basically just a character created around "beware the rage of a patient man".
    Gohan's got a big heart. He's sweet. He's kind. Far more tempered and heroic than his father. He's never looking to fight.
    Which is what makes his rage so potent. Why his fury gives him such insane boosts.
    He wants peace-- and threatening that peace, hurting the people he loves, sends his power levels absolutely sky high.

    • @mytwosense9135
      @mytwosense9135 Місяць тому +13

      This is how I've always viewed him. He's the ultimate FAFO character. If you're peaceful, so is Gohan, but if you really ask for it, he takes souls.

    • @SantanaBanana47
      @SantanaBanana47 Місяць тому +2

      The more you starve your inner demons/dark desires, the more extreme the backlash will be when they finally retaliate. It will be the ultimate Faustian deal made in desperation. You get what you want and need, but your whole life all that you love risks getting burned down around you. It's important to feed your demon little scraps. Gohan does not do this. So when he takes the Faustian Deal with his dark side, the collateral damage is amplified. Gohan's rage is all or nothing. Huge reward and payoff, but with a big price to pay with how he loses himself. Almost like he is selling his soul momentarily to attain the power he needs in the moment

    • @Buddyskywalker2
      @Buddyskywalker2 Місяць тому +3

      Goku had to help him understand this was the reason that his potential so greatly surpassed his own, and in turn helped him beat cell. Gohan was always so scared of losing until that switch flipped

  • @pulser08
    @pulser08 3 місяці тому +248

    My interpretation has always been that Goku had it the hardest to become a SS because he basically rediscovered a lost ancient technique. Once he broke that barrier it became easier for others to transform since they could just observe him.

    • @xMahKi
      @xMahKi 2 місяці тому +9

      Same with Demon Slayer mark. It becomes achievable by other demon slayer cuz someone achieved it already

    • @OutGunnd
      @OutGunnd 2 місяці тому +8

      Correct but to add Gohan had a struggle a bit because he was born before Goku when Super. Unlike Goten... Future trunks struggled more than his Present counterpart because he had less people to observe

    • @grottoguru6473
      @grottoguru6473 19 днів тому

      Kinda like the

    • @bradyoung6663
      @bradyoung6663 3 дні тому

      As Frieza would say "Monkey see, monkey do"

  • @dominicfenix2201
    @dominicfenix2201 4 місяці тому +596

    Bruh, you never said anything about Whis...what a clickbait title :/

    • @CaptainFalcon-exboyfriend
      @CaptainFalcon-exboyfriend 4 місяці тому +26

      lmao you're not wrong that he never mentioned Whis in the video, but Whis does explain it in chapters 102 and 103 of DBS manga, I advise that you just read it there.

    • @JayS700
      @JayS700 3 місяці тому +51

      ​@@CaptainFalcon-exboyfriend Whis talks about how Gohan is special with his Beast form, but he doesn't say he has the most potential

    • @ricksaburai
      @ricksaburai 3 місяці тому +53

      Thanks for the comment. Immediately closed the video

    • @lajiro217
      @lajiro217 2 місяці тому +9

      Plot twist: the name of the channel owner that's speaking in the video is Whis

    • @emerikdiaz14
      @emerikdiaz14 2 місяці тому +2

      Facts I was like does whis explain or you 😭

  • @lancejones4135
    @lancejones4135 4 місяці тому +418

    Crazy idea here, what if gohan also belongs in the special category with brolly. It would explain his berserker rage moments but can get himself under control faster due to being part human.

    • @Sm0key_Rates
      @Sm0key_Rates 4 місяці тому +34

      It wouldn’t really make sense as Gohan has that rage because he’s half human. Broly has it due to 50+ years of mental trauma living on a desolate alien infested planet while being electrocuted prolly daily

    • @padraig-bobotia-maria5176
      @padraig-bobotia-maria5176 4 місяці тому +10

      he is, it's why trunk and goten never get rage like gohan

    • @Sm0key_Rates
      @Sm0key_Rates 4 місяці тому +26

      @@padraig-bobotia-maria5176 because Gohan is more like chichi while Goten is more like Goku. Goku barely rages too and he’s the main character Gohan’s temperament is from predominantly being raised by piccolo and his mother. Goten also has trunks which helps keep his emotions in check

    • @padraig-bobotia-maria5176
      @padraig-bobotia-maria5176 4 місяці тому +4

      @@Sm0key_Rates chi chi is only like that in filler, the rage thing is gohan/broly specific.

    • @Sm0key_Rates
      @Sm0key_Rates 4 місяці тому +9

      @@padraig-bobotia-maria5176 what are you talking about? Chi chi is always snapping, especially when it comes to Gohan and goku what show you watching Dragon tales??

  • @VincentTroino
    @VincentTroino 3 місяці тому +79

    Something I think that's important to remember is that Goku, Vegeta and Gohan realistically had to achieve more by themselves than the rest of the Saiyans. Either achieving SSJ or SSJ2 by themselves. Once they figured it out, it's easier to pass down the knowledge. They had no guide initially. Goten and Trunks both had living figures that could teach them.

    • @zeddii7126
      @zeddii7126 2 місяці тому +4

      EXACTLY, finally someone that thinks...

    • @victorbatista609
      @victorbatista609 2 місяці тому

      Except it goes out the window when you realize that gohan was the first to make it to ssj2 ​@@zeddii7126

    • @Brothabruv
      @Brothabruv 2 місяці тому

      Literally what i came to the comment section to say. Goku and Vegeta had to unlock it on their own with no real direction on how to do it. Not even a visual in Gokus case. Everyone else after at least had a visual on what it looked like hence making it a little bit easier to achieve

    • @zeddii7126
      @zeddii7126 2 місяці тому

      @@Brothabruv Gohan unlocks ssj2 on his own. And Vegeta already knew ssj1 from goku. So the most impressive are goku and gohan

    • @Brothabruv
      @Brothabruv 2 місяці тому

      @@zeddii7126 Yea Gohan was the first to unlock ssj2 but he was trained by Goku. Vegeta unlocked ssj1 on his own. Goku unlocking it first is by far the most impressive and i think Vegeta willing himself to it is second. Gohan undoubtedly has the most potential tho

  • @DumahAtreides
    @DumahAtreides 3 місяці тому +21

    One aspect I feel should be discussed is that Goku is a genius in one very specific way - battle intelligence. He learns battle skills and invents them at the a rate above other characters. His ability to follow and understand opponents battle techniques to find weaknesses is also unparalleled. A lot of this is natural skill going back to OG DragonBall too as how he learned the Kamehameha in one demonstration that took Kame 50 years to do.
    So yes, physically he isn't at the level of the rest latently, but mentally he's an autistic savant for battle.

  • @Grchman
    @Grchman 4 місяці тому +393

    universe 6 sayians really pissed me off.. "tingling in your back" fucked me up 😂

    • @joolsmacgrools1288
      @joolsmacgrools1288 4 місяці тому +41

      For real. That whole arc was just completely contrived. Cabba was the only one who didn't thoroughly annoy me, and he sucks too.

    • @KigerrVariety
      @KigerrVariety 3 місяці тому +14

      ​@joolsmacgrools1288 The whole arc is saved for me due to master roshi speech and "final" kamehameha

    • @makajbox
      @makajbox 3 місяці тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @oKenshinHimura
      @oKenshinHimura 3 місяці тому +5

      So you didnt watch the video, but decided to comment here. Didnt understand the anime or its lore so you get mad? what?

    • @johnmeehan7884
      @johnmeehan7884 3 місяці тому

      ​@oKenshinHimura it's because it was stupid. Need to increase weaklings power? Tingling back = SS2. Use your brain, dummy.

  • @THEMOSTHATED203
    @THEMOSTHATED203 4 місяці тому +108

    R.I.P the great Akira Toriyama 🙏🏽

    • @rocketlaunch99
      @rocketlaunch99 2 місяці тому +1

      I almost forgot
      Now I'm sad again 😢

  • @MrReddieZ
    @MrReddieZ 4 місяці тому +223

    Man, could you imagine if Gohan had a kid!? Maybe a daughter that learned to fly as in infant? 🤣

    • @PlanetSaiyan-zd3hl
      @PlanetSaiyan-zd3hl  4 місяці тому +24

      Wow 🤩 it would be amazing 🤣

    • @PlanetSaiyan-zd3hl
      @PlanetSaiyan-zd3hl  4 місяці тому +14

      And thanks for commenting. How are you doing today? I hope you’re well and having a great day

    • @MrReddieZ
      @MrReddieZ 4 місяці тому +5

      ​@PlanetSaiyan-zd3hl Doing good homie! Great video btw :)

    • @SpaceCityOverlandFamily
      @SpaceCityOverlandFamily 4 місяці тому +5

      Didnt her flying happen at 3/4? I think it showed her in Dragonball Super: Superhero finally flying. Or did she show the ability before and just master it in DBS:SH?

    • @TheFettuck
      @TheFettuck 4 місяці тому

      Gohan's kid will probably never turn into a SSJ, because not enough friends will betray them.

  • @sufisufian7747
    @sufisufian7747 4 місяці тому +273

    We need Gohan to train with Whis and mastering god ki..

    • @TimelessWorldOfGaming
      @TimelessWorldOfGaming 4 місяці тому +45

      He doesn't need it. He said himself in the anime even that he has chosen his own path and rather than God KI, he will grow stronger through evolving his Mystic form. That's what the next part of Super is, rather than everyone having the same form like Super Saiyan, they've all taken different paths. Piccolo through Shenron to achieve his Orange Piccolo, Gohan through his Mystic form to achieve Beast, Vegeta through his Ultra Ego, Goku through Ultra Instinct, and Broly through legendary Super Saiyan. Giving Gohan God ki would ruin the plans that Toriyama had set down for the next part of Super.

    • @jqwest944
      @jqwest944 4 місяці тому +5

      We just need gohan to continuously get angry.

    • @orinlupe992
      @orinlupe992 4 місяці тому +13

      @@TimelessWorldOfGaminghe literally obtained mystic from a god tho lol.

    • @endxbiggs
      @endxbiggs 4 місяці тому +2

      Broly and beerus ultra ego !

    • @YayaTia
      @YayaTia 3 місяці тому +1

      God Gohan and UI mastered Gohan Pls

  • @vinhtran123
    @vinhtran123 24 дні тому +3

    I feel like gohan was a rare case of mutation in the saiyan gene mixed with humans.

  • @nobudakid
    @nobudakid 18 днів тому +4

    A fighting alien falls on Earth. Just to realize, earth itself makes everybody stronger.

  • @levonrobinson9378
    @levonrobinson9378 4 місяці тому +159

    Gohan might be the Saiyan that beerus dreamed about

    • @derektpittsdp
      @derektpittsdp 4 місяці тому +12

      With the current trend from DBS we will Never know

    • @ThatBoyBent
      @ThatBoyBent 4 місяці тому +7

      Makes Sense because Gohan has a purple color

    • @swappedoutZ71
      @swappedoutZ71 4 місяці тому +6

      It's yamoshi, a cool dude that will be forgotten

    • @DarkMaVerRik80
      @DarkMaVerRik80 4 місяці тому +2

      Yes I agree that was forgotten​@@swappedoutZ71

    • @Sm0key_Rates
      @Sm0key_Rates 4 місяці тому +9

      @@levonrobinson9378 if he dreamed about anyone, it would be Broly not someone that received cheat codes to become this strong

  • @thetravellersboots
    @thetravellersboots 4 місяці тому +328

    Wrong, it all depends on what the writer feels like doing.

    • @smokerscoach
      @smokerscoach 4 місяці тому +7

      😂

    • @mattbrady5483
      @mattbrady5483 4 місяці тому +31

      The writer already confirmed Gohan is the strongest in the Dragon Ball universe.

    • @alex-uw4mm
      @alex-uw4mm 4 місяці тому +31

      people will string theories together,
      meanwhile toriyama was improvising and making stuff up on the fly

    • @therealturph
      @therealturph 4 місяці тому +3

      Literally 😅😅😅

    • @idkidk7606
      @idkidk7606 4 місяці тому

      ​​@@mattbrady5483Well, no, their exact words were that he is the strongest Z fighter. While that does arguably include Goku, piccolo, and Vegeta, neither Goku nor Vegeta could defeat broly even as a tag team, it took a godly gogeta to stop him, and I'm more than certain gogeta could surpass Gohan simply because it's a fusion with God ki like that. Along with that right now Frieza is most likely as strong or stronger than Gohan Beast, the main reason this would be true is the fact that yes Gohan has barely any real life or death fighting experience compared to the others. He has the power, but now lacks in experience by comparison which makes his skills less than desirable here. Then there is also beerus, he'd destroy him in a fight.

  • @jayward7810
    @jayward7810 4 місяці тому +108

    The main reason is much more simple… people forget.. Gohan is one of The only saiyans that was born from 2 pure souls. Two souls able to ride the Flying nimbus. Thats why since hes been little, In every turn he surprised enemies far stronger than himself. Just like Goku used to do as a kid but even better 😎. All about them good S cells 😜

    • @adri101190
      @adri101190 4 місяці тому +12

      Omg that is the truest thing I have ever read. But, wouldn't Goten be the same as well?

    • @jayward7810
      @jayward7810 4 місяці тому +3

      @@adri101190 Do siblings act or do the same things in real life..? 🧐😇

    • @adri101190
      @adri101190 4 місяці тому +1

      @@jayward7810 fair enough, you are right

    • @CHAOTICRUINS
      @CHAOTICRUINS 4 місяці тому +14

      ​@@jayward7810Gohan went through life thinking he was gonna die at any moment, Goten lived a peaceful life.

    • @jayward7810
      @jayward7810 4 місяці тому +1

      @GordonWaldman-un7ol Yep pure and slightly ignorant like Goku. Has a lot to learn. Thats also because of his experience tho. I wouldn’t say his dad is pure and we don’t know his mom. So on the pureness scale.. Gohan still got it 😎

  • @lightyagami5294
    @lightyagami5294 День тому

    From great hardship and potential loss of a loved one to that tingly feeling in your back. What a tragedy!

  • @enermaxstephens1051
    @enermaxstephens1051 4 місяці тому +6

    But the message is clearly "Nothing beats hard work, determination, and persistence". As Goku rises to defeat them all. Others may have better natural talent and ability, but they'll never be able to beat Goku because he will never stop. They will.

    • @LightSpeed-wo8ys
      @LightSpeed-wo8ys 28 днів тому

      Nah beast gohan is better.

    • @enermaxstephens1051
      @enermaxstephens1051 28 днів тому

      @@LightSpeed-wo8ys bah gohan got weak

    • @LightSpeed-wo8ys
      @LightSpeed-wo8ys 28 днів тому

      @@enermaxstephens1051 that just tells you how weak goku is seems how gohan's a better fighter then goku.

    • @enermaxstephens1051
      @enermaxstephens1051 27 днів тому

      @@LightSpeed-wo8ys No it tells you goku was superior. Gohan wanted to do pointless crap like study when his father inlaw was rich and provided everything

  • @A_Wild_Dyzzy
    @A_Wild_Dyzzy 4 місяці тому +11

    “Gohan is the strongest in the universe but still doesn’t do CRAAAAAAAP!”

  • @W2Tymes
    @W2Tymes 2 місяці тому +11

    This why DB writing annoys me. There's really just not enough depth for anyone outside of Goku and Vegeta. We shouldn't still be guessing about Gohan, Goten or Trunks' power at this point.

  • @rytramprophet843
    @rytramprophet843 2 місяці тому +2

    The concept of Heterosis makes sense. It makes the most sense with Gohan because of how his transformations occur. Goku taught him to use the power of loss to break through. Goku learned this through losing Krillin, his best friend. But the thing is that Emotion seems to be very strongly connected to battle power as has been displayed many times throughout the shows history.
    What is the difference between Gohan and his father or Vegeta? Well, you can see in Goku's case that when someone gets hurt he gets serious. This implies that Goku has a strong sense of right and wrong. It upsets him to see the strong hurt the weak. There have only been 2 occasions in the entire history of Dragon ball when Goku truly lost it. The first time was with with the loss of Eighter and the second time was with the loss of Krillin. Other than that, Goku merely just feels bad about people getting hurt or dying. it makes him angry but not emotional.
    Gohan on the other hand has a lot of compassion. He went SS because he was sick of letting his friends get hurt and sick of being weak. He went SS2 when he witnessed the death of 16 whom he was barely acquainted with. I would Argue that his compassion is derived from his Human DNA. It most certainly is not a result of Saiyan DNA. Saiyans are power hungry, blood thirsty warriors where strength is everything. I guess you could argue that Goku wasn't close to Eighter either. but that side story is basically just a ripoff of the Cell Saga. all they did was copy Gohan and instead make it Goku. Outside of that, Goku is a pure hearted Saiyan, but he does not have the same depth of emotions that his son has. Because there are many times where Goku did not express such deep emotions. he merely just felt bad about what happened. but it wasn't really personal for him.
    Further more. Motives play a big role. Goku just wants to fight strong warriors and test his strength and get stronger. Gohan has no such drive, But he NEEDS to protect people, therefore he NEEDS to be strong. And he gets angry when his friends get hurt. This is EVERY serious battle with Gohan. but it has only been the case a few times with Goku.

  • @Enclave.
    @Enclave. 3 місяці тому +14

    The main thing that holds Gohan back is all mental, it's why when he loses control he skyrockets to new levels never before seen. It's when we see just a hint of his potential.
    I could see Toyotarou start taking the manga in a direction where Goku and Vegeta start taking more of a back seat and a Gohan/Broly rivalry starting to take the forefront. Gohan already is starting to show Broly how to control his power, I could absolutely see them play off each other to reach new heights, especially since the source of their power while different is still comparable.

    • @solovoypasando
      @solovoypasando 2 місяці тому +1

      Main thing holding Gohan back is his mom, who wants him to be normal and not a warrior

  • @Sunshines83
    @Sunshines83 5 місяців тому +2

    Thoroughly enjoyed this! Thanks!

  • @kinghomiejuice1217
    @kinghomiejuice1217 2 місяці тому +3

    The reason why the saiyans from universe 6 was able to transform so easily was because Vegeta and Goku was able to tell them exactly how to do it and build up that feeling in their backs. If someone came and told Goku and Vegeta how to do it,mmm sure they would’ve reached it a lot sooner.

    • @tlungu962
      @tlungu962 20 днів тому

      exactly & while people think it’s an asspull it actually has real world reasoning known as the sacral chakra. it’s located on your lower back & associated with emotions, particularly anger.
      It makes sense that focusing on that point in your back is the actually trigger for the transformation. u can even seem them perk up their back when they power up/transform

  • @codyfelts9531
    @codyfelts9531 3 місяці тому +2

    It's the "new kid on the block" treatment. The order is literally in order of introduction, with beast gohan being most recent.

  • @oKenshinHimura
    @oKenshinHimura 3 місяці тому +3

    Forgot to mention that the whole thing about the Legendary Super Saiyans is that they can use the power of the Oozaru without transforming into it (but this is also why they grow so huge even as human form). This stacks with their base power or form. That combined with the other ability which is extreme adaptability and evolution, makes it so their power lvl continuously increases rapidly as they fight.
    Another thing about Gohan that people miss or forget is that he is that he inherited the ''rage'' part of Chi Chi which is pretty intense. While Goten is quite the opposite. This is why when he gets these outbursts of rage combined with his Saiyan genes it makes him jump exponentially in power. This is why also his Beast Form is so different from the SSB from Goku And Vegeta. It is called Beast because it is literally being fueled by a huge spike in rage, like a beast. It is incredible people miss this even though it's been show cased since DB with Chi Chi, and in every single scenario Gohan evolves in power. It even is a direct joke in the SBD Super Hero movie when Piccolo triggers Gohan on purpose with a planned scenario to abuse the way he increases in power.
    So while Broly needs to be in combat to grow. Gohan does so in bursts just by being in situations that make him rage.

    • @davidscott9257
      @davidscott9257 Місяць тому

      yeah, broly's dad literally explains brolys power is him tapping into his Oozaru without transforming which is what causes the berserker state. combine that with him being super pure hearted because he's dumb as a bag of hammers, means he has a crazy amount of s-cells, then multiply that with going super saiyan and bam. i think my theory tracks because kale is an innocent idiot also that has similar power to broly.

  • @AaronSmith-my2dh
    @AaronSmith-my2dh 15 днів тому +1

    When you really think about it Gohan and Broly are the same naturally pure hearted Saiyans with only extensive and targeted trauma being the main reason for one to transform while the other had many ways to overcome death or misfortune

  • @JLogan421
    @JLogan421 2 місяці тому +5

    I won’t take the broly slander if broly had the same training as gohan he’d be unstoppable

  • @YouT860
    @YouT860 4 дні тому +1

    Liked and subscribed 🎉 Happy new year!

    • @PlanetSaiyan-zd3hl
      @PlanetSaiyan-zd3hl  4 дні тому

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  • @warrenbutt3746
    @warrenbutt3746 4 місяці тому +12

    I always figured part of the reason Goten and Trunks were able to transform so much earlier than Gohan is because they were both conceived after their fathers had achieved Super Saiyan and would have been exposed to it earlier (through Vegeta).

  • @tohitbhowmick
    @tohitbhowmick 14 днів тому +1

    Gohan without even training Unlocked the Beast form ❤️☠️

    • @dabiun7443
      @dabiun7443 13 днів тому

      He trained every day for hours with picolo lol You don't know shit

    • @MrSgtRecon
      @MrSgtRecon 5 днів тому

      @@dabiun7443Gohan has no reason being as strong as he is after only training for short time after COMPLETELY giving up fighting for years to be a scholar while everyone else kept training. It’s all because of his natural potential, period

  • @White0ni
    @White0ni 4 місяці тому +18

    Kinda weird that gohan didn't go beast at the Tournament of Power. His entire universe and the universe of many others were on the line. He's not just a guy who cares about his friends, he seems himself as a literal superhero who is responsible for the safety of his fellow man.

    • @ivankarim8678
      @ivankarim8678 4 місяці тому +8

      Because he didn't train enough then..my man just got his mojo back just before the tournament..and since then he never stopped training (according to Super Hero)

    • @Dannyboy90ify
      @Dannyboy90ify 3 місяці тому +7

      Also. He always relies on his dad. Every time he was the strongest, was when Goku wasn’t there or able to do the job for him.

    • @almuel
      @almuel 2 місяці тому +1

      He didn't do much training for it that time. It was only after the Tournament of Power that he began setting aside a little time from his day to train. Even this little training was good enough to get Gohan back into shape and unlock more of his potential and hidden power.

    • @adigames
      @adigames 2 місяці тому

      The Tournament was held before the movie, the SUPER HEROES movie took place after the ToP in which he never had it unlocked.

  • @elhadjtall3627
    @elhadjtall3627 2 місяці тому +1

    Gohan is the Chief

    • @PlanetSaiyan-zd3hl
      @PlanetSaiyan-zd3hl  2 місяці тому

      Hello, how are you? I hope you are well! Thank you very much for the retribution on the channel 🙌😊

    • @PlanetSaiyan-zd3hl
      @PlanetSaiyan-zd3hl  2 місяці тому

      Gohan is one of my favorite characters

    • @PlanetSaiyan-zd3hl
      @PlanetSaiyan-zd3hl  2 місяці тому

      I'm sorry for the delay in answering you. Today was a very intense day

  • @storytime6263
    @storytime6263 2 місяці тому +3

    Gohan doesnt push himself like Goku, even when all seems lost he knows his dad has it covered. You only see gohan exceed his father and thats when his dad isnt there and its up to him and Goku CANT help. Gohan can't see his family and loved ones be completely destroyed. He loses his sh*t and hence a new form. You also have to remember he is half human and his emotions are far more potent which gives him a boost too. Gohan could be better than Goku, but why would he want to? He has a loving wife and daughter, he has all he wants.

    • @almuel
      @almuel 2 місяці тому

      But after the Tournament of Power, that changed. He started to set aside some time to train and realized that he can't always depend on his father to save the day. Also, he gained back the desire to fight and also satisfy his academic hunger as his new goal in fighting was to explore find an alternate path that did not need to use the emotions and aura of a super saiyan which was what eventually lead to his Beast transformation.

  • @drkstunt
    @drkstunt Місяць тому

    Broly is just a different animal, Gohan is a different beast, there's no explanation needed.

  • @xedril
    @xedril 4 місяці тому +34

    gohan is the strongest bcoz toriyama wants gohan to be the next main character after cell saga but the studio doesnt want it and wants goku to remain the main character that is why they bring back goku from the dead..

    • @michaelclarke8367
      @michaelclarke8367 4 місяці тому

      What does that mean? Like doesn't toriyama run dbz.

    • @xedril
      @xedril 4 місяці тому +4

      @@michaelclarke8367 he runs it with approval from the studio.. like toriyama wants the androids as the main villain arc but the studio doesnt like it so cell was created and absorb the androids.. same with gohan, toriyama wants gohan to be the main hero after cell saga that is why gohan defeated cell that is why great siayaman was created but the studio doesnt like it and wants goku back so toriyama brought goku back.. the studio is the paying toriyama for the manga story but the studio "suggestion" (more like command) has control on the storyboard..

    • @MegaTazz95
      @MegaTazz95 4 місяці тому

      ​@@michaelclarke8367 no.. the studio does.

    • @Blackwind_Legacy
      @Blackwind_Legacy 4 місяці тому +2

      @@xedril Considering Toriyama has passed away recently. I would say its all in the hands of the studio now.

    • @cloudman8911
      @cloudman8911 4 місяці тому +2

      Toriyama is dead. He doesn t want anything.

  • @Reconciliations
    @Reconciliations 3 місяці тому +2

    I feel like transformations come more natural since their fathers can guide them

  • @gamewizard1760
    @gamewizard1760 2 місяці тому +3

    Gohan does have the advantage of being able to tap his full strength without powering up to a stronger form, after training under the elder Kai with the Z sword. He went soft for a while, prior to Resurrection of F, and fell short of his potential for a long time. Even during the tournament of power, he still wasn't as strong as he should have been.

  • @sarcasticrobot303
    @sarcasticrobot303 3 місяці тому

    I have never said this in my life but my friend YOU JUST EARNED A SUBSCRIBER

  • @lighty6401
    @lighty6401 3 місяці тому +15

    I think Whis says Gohan is unique. But he never says Gohan is the strongest. He knows Goku and Vegeta are way stronger.

    • @adigames
      @adigames 2 місяці тому +2

      I think he meant when they were flying back to beerus planet after being beat up by Black Frieza, Goku asks Whis if the Fish was talking about BFrieza being the strongest and Whis says maybe OR maybe the strongest warrior is somewhere else in the universe, which i believe this takes place just as DBS SUPER HEROES takes place

  • @jordanhenry6478
    @jordanhenry6478 2 місяці тому

    Very good video. I'd add Frieza to the list and put him up there or on par with Broly. We saw what he could do when he trains.

  • @proviib
    @proviib 4 місяці тому +3

    I think the exposure from other saiyan’s strength helps saiyans power up quicker. Almost how it takes centuries before the first computer is created, but now is taught in college

  • @joshuataylor77x7
    @joshuataylor77x7 2 місяці тому

    Many have forgotten elder Kai unlocked his latent potential

  • @TennoHaki
    @TennoHaki 2 місяці тому +8

    No one has more potential than Gohan and Frieza. Had Gohan Trained for the 7 years Goku was dead like Vegeta trains he would be so far ahead that he could have been buu instantly. If Frieza trained like goku and Vegeta he would be far superior to them.

  • @FromIdeologytoUnity
    @FromIdeologytoUnity 2 місяці тому

    Maybe its because Gohan is super gentle at heart, thats why hes so strong.

  • @joefei707
    @joefei707 4 місяці тому +13

    Gohan has a perfect form. As in the turnament he doesn't require transformation to figh against blue forms. Thats what Wis was trying to explain to Goku about unnecessary transformations that really weren't that many boost of power. Again Gohan by training with Picolo is the only to reach true power and uses his transformation to multiply or add to his existing power and that's why he doesn't get as exausted in battle as Goku. Now he's new form as always just a glimps of his true power he doesn't need to go through the latter of powerups. And Gohan is the most skilled fighter of the crew based on intelligence and tactics which makes him the top fighter. They just need to develop this story line further as it was developed since the beginning

    • @Sm0key_Rates
      @Sm0key_Rates 4 місяці тому +5

      The whole storyline is messed up because of the fact that this is not Gohan’s natural growth. Normally, he would never be strong this fast he just had his potential unleashed by two beings he should’ve had made contact with. Under normal circumstances, the elder Kai and elder namek wouldn’t have met him and unleashed his potential for him to be this strong

    • @palosalpha117
      @palosalpha117 4 місяці тому

      Kind of like when Future Trunks during the Goku Black Saga

  • @r6-AgentScorpionParkerKRider23
    @r6-AgentScorpionParkerKRider23 27 днів тому

    one last note: Goten and Trunks saw Goku transform ONCE into Super Saiyan 3 and when fused quickly adapted it into their repertoire.....ONCE.....they observed it and then quickly learned, and that is phenomenal alone.

  • @KDubOriginal
    @KDubOriginal 4 місяці тому +4

    Kale and Broly are hybrids just not with humans. My belief is that they are hybrids of Saiyans and Tuffles. Any color of normal super saiyan that is not yellow/gold is a hybrid. The legendary super saiyan is just a myth for story purposes, it doesn't actually exist. Broly and Kale simply skip to ultra super saiyan without the loss of speed.

  • @Kyoku_Ryuu
    @Kyoku_Ryuu 2 місяці тому

    9:17 the answer is "plot"
    because the writer says so ... they appear later in the story so they have to be equally strong with the main characters at that point in time.

  • @The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung
    @The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung 3 місяці тому +3

    "In the Majin Buu Saga, Gohan showcased his potential AGAIN"
    By getting absorbed and saved by Goku, Vegeta and Mr Satan of all people.
    The second he chose college over training, he lost his status as potentially strongest, even with his awakened powers in Super, he's a shadow of Goku's power, Vegeta's power, and even his own GT counterpart that did start training again.
    I love Gohan, but at this point, calling him strongest because of the one time during the Cell games when he trained seriously is copium in its purest form.
    You may be able to unlock Super Copium 4 or Super Copium God with it it's so pure.

  • @Buddyskywalker2
    @Buddyskywalker2 Місяць тому

    I think the reason that goten and trunks reached super saiyan so early is because they played together often as children, especially after they both learned how to fly. They each had the perfect sparring partner, just like goku and vegeta. And probably because vegeta trained trunks so hard with the expectation of him surpassing goten and rub it in goku’s face.

  • @RJLiams
    @RJLiams 2 місяці тому +2

    I give it 2 arcs before Gohan isn't able to transform into beast mode again.

    • @TerranigmaQuintet
      @TerranigmaQuintet 2 місяці тому +2

      Oh they will find a way to depower him again, or get behidn in power, because he isnt the main protagonist. They done it before, they doing this beast thign now to satisfy a subset of the DB fanbase that wants Gohan on top, they will go back to Goku focus soon enough.

    • @SteelRims
      @SteelRims Місяць тому

      ​@@TerranigmaQuintetor maybe they'll put him back into his coporate bookworm mode as a nerf. They seem to always make that the excuse.

  • @jordanalteri4826
    @jordanalteri4826 3 місяці тому

    Gohan has been goated several times he’s at it again

  • @Junebug89
    @Junebug89 3 місяці тому +3

    "Taking on super saiyan blue gogeta" is being very generous - once Gogeta goes blue, Broly doesn't land a single hit

    • @davidscott9257
      @davidscott9257 Місяць тому

      blue gogeta absolutely mopped broly lol. but i think it was their martial arts skills that really puts blue gogeta over the top.

  • @Bballfan1992
    @Bballfan1992 4 місяці тому +2

    All that potential and goku still returns to beat everyone. Work and effort is everything. Gohan is Allen Iverson from basketball. Star talent from birth, and super huge potential, but because he never practiced, he isn’t in the same breath as MJ, Kobe or Lebron who trained day and night to get better.

  • @horseman6396
    @horseman6396 4 місяці тому +30

    Gohan heart is pure even more pure than goku, gohan made friends of any animals and was also taught to be one with nature.

    • @SinHurr
      @SinHurr 2 місяці тому +3

      Sage mode Gohan when

  • @MatthewJamesKalasky
    @MatthewJamesKalasky 4 місяці тому

    Cool video. Very informative.

  • @christophergregorio3880
    @christophergregorio3880 5 місяців тому +5

    simply incredible 🔥🔥

  • @IAmNotARobot-OrAmI
    @IAmNotARobot-OrAmI 2 місяці тому

    One thing you forgot about Goku vs Vegeta is mentality. Vegeta has more innate potential, but his mindset holds him back. Goku's...what might be seen as mental deficiencies...allow him more focus. I don't necessarily want to give Toriyama much credit for consistency, but even from Popo's training through ultra instinct, Vegeta has always been thinking about training and fighting, whereas for Goku it has been more instinctual and reflexive. So while Vegeta has more potential AND works harder, Goku generally gets more benefit out of his work.

  • @ithamarlowe6158
    @ithamarlowe6158 4 місяці тому +24

    Remember the divine god ki came from Pan before she was born. This probably means as the youngest she has the most potential.

    • @nafrayu9832
      @nafrayu9832 4 місяці тому +12

      @@ithamarlowe6158 That wasn't divine god ki that came from Pan, just regular ki from a righteous heart.

    • @chaitanyapahl
      @chaitanyapahl 4 місяці тому +2

      Super Saiyan's with Righteous Heart

    • @MindlessMenace
      @MindlessMenace 4 місяці тому +1

      Wtf are you yapping about

    • @orion2992
      @orion2992 4 місяці тому +2

      Gohan fanboy consistently making shit up.

  • @-gearsgarage-
    @-gearsgarage- 3 місяці тому

    He fights with love, and respect. That’s why he has the highest potential and remains the strongest

  • @cultofmodernism8477
    @cultofmodernism8477 4 місяці тому +5

    I wouldn't call it "higher potential" as much as calling out plotholes.

    • @TerranigmaQuintet
      @TerranigmaQuintet 2 місяці тому

      What you mean, he ha sshown that highe rpotential sicne the very moment he was introduced at the start of Z. His rageboost was shown a few times, difference back then he was way too young to meaningfully use it to finish someone off proper. The entire Cell games was about him finally cashing in on the longstanding potential. It's not like they decided in Super to give him the most potential out of all.

    • @belugawhale6539
      @belugawhale6539 25 днів тому

      @@TerranigmaQuintetany character introduced late in the series need to have insane potential to be able to be relevant in the show, as the main characters and foes are astronomical in power.
      That’s the main reason why goten, trunks, kale etc are so powerful. Because they needed to somehow be relevant. They needed to “catch up” to goku and Vegeta.
      These are pretty much plot holes in other shows, but dragon ball is all about power levels, so characters need to catch up in power to be relevant

  • @Txny_G
    @Txny_G 23 дні тому +1

    The uncontrolled rage is all kale and Broly have. All the others are able to control their rage and power to transform successfully.

  • @David-r4f2d
    @David-r4f2d 3 місяці тому +7

    If you take into consideration his mother's background he's basically a legendary human hybrid and that along with his Wife's Dad is why Pan is so strong and has the most potential.

  • @pepsisummer8429
    @pepsisummer8429 Місяць тому

    Emotion if yield correctly, is one of the most if not THE ONLY power a HUEMAN has. With Saiyan DNA Gohans protentional is unmatched!

  • @erwin280
    @erwin280 4 місяці тому +13

    They get so powerfull because they are injecting liquid senzu beans in their butts. Imagine how much gear Goten and Trunks were using.

    • @mtat1396
      @mtat1396 3 місяці тому +1

      Made my day

  • @glazedgooch4546
    @glazedgooch4546 27 днів тому +1

    Since gohan is the most gentle saiyan in the 7th universe makes sense that he would be the strongest you said the gentleness of a saiyan means they will have more S cells.

  • @TrembleB4Me
    @TrembleB4Me 5 місяців тому +15

    Dude,ssj1 and 2 are not relevant anymore thats why its easier to unlock now by U6 saiyans compared to kakarot or vegeta who are in anime ssj1 and 2 are just a new trans thats why they are older when they unlocked it than u6 cause ssj1 and 2 is still relevant new trans back then😂

    • @ChocolateFishBrains
      @ChocolateFishBrains 4 місяці тому

      It's more that the higher their power levels the easier it is for Sayains to achieve SSJ.

  • @AngelGutierrez-ft5ns
    @AngelGutierrez-ft5ns 3 місяці тому +1

    I think the one thing most are forgetting about the potential of Super Saiyan and subsequent power levels is that there two types of saiyans: Those who are able to imagine a greater power and those who has seen the proof to achieve it for themselves. Until Goku turned super saiyan it was only considered a legend and after that it was seen as something that can only be achieved through rage (Trunks and Goten proved that there are ways around that) The other universes such as Cabba’s witnessed it learning that there is more potential to their version.
    So, honestly I would say from a potential stand point it is obvious it’s origins (specifically when you start considering that in future Trunks timeline because of the fact that Goku died there was no additional evolutions for the Saiyan race, half-breed or pure). It’s almost like Demon Slayer where if one person has the mark then the likelihood of all developing it is higher.

  • @benjaminfrost2780
    @benjaminfrost2780 3 місяці тому +5

    Correction. The intrinsic talent/potential in Vegeta is notably higher than Goku. Proven by the fact that he figures out how to unlock Super Saiyan God without the ritual that Goku got to benefit from...and did so in a relatively short time.

  • @wildhogOW
    @wildhogOW 3 місяці тому +1

    7:00 The High Priest's jawline is wonkier than Vegeta's sense of humour.

  • @Omegasenron
    @Omegasenron 4 місяці тому +3

    Actually he's stronger cause he was blessed with ligma.

    • @McBlazington
      @McBlazington 4 місяці тому

      What's ligma?

    • @PolusTSXX
      @PolusTSXX 3 місяці тому

      ​@@McBlazington ligmaballs

  • @Aluze
    @Aluze 2 місяці тому

    I'd argue their personalities and effort and ambition are part of their potential, and what makes them the strongest, if not always, eventually

  • @laronda10
    @laronda10 4 місяці тому +2

    Up to the end of cell saga the only difference was training methods between goku and vegeta. Goku knew how to work hard at training smart

    • @swappedoutZ71
      @swappedoutZ71 4 місяці тому +1

      Goku said it once, the power comes from a need. Not a desire. Vegeta always only desired the power. Once he became part of the z team, he needed it. He got it.

  • @nexuvareldari7418
    @nexuvareldari7418 Місяць тому

    You are forgetting something about Gohan, the reason he transformed to SSJ later rather than sooner was due to his particularly stubborn level of pacifism and trauma, he had mental blocks preventing a transformation, you also need to consider that from achieving ssj to ssj2 was quite a short time period, he got two forms back to back essentially. So his potential isn’t necessarily less than Goten & Trunks

  • @thefrostyvette876
    @thefrostyvette876 4 місяці тому +3

    Goten and trunks did train… Goten trained with Chi Chi and Trunks trained with his mother’s technological advances.

  • @Kimvanloocke
    @Kimvanloocke 2 місяці тому +1

    Akira Toroyama forgot key things about his characters and powers that rarely are shown

  • @maddad_ent4254
    @maddad_ent4254 4 місяці тому +4

    Honestly. This isn't even speculation. Gohan definitely has the most potential for some reason. Lol. He's always been my favorite. Js. Saddest moment in DragonBall is when Gohan became a scholar. Lol. Lastly, if you know DragonBall then you know exactly what happens with broly and Kale. They summon the power of ozaru without transforming into am ape.... Genius. Smh. Who is this guy??

    • @Sm0key_Rates
      @Sm0key_Rates 4 місяці тому +1

      Actually, that’s only for Broly. We don’t know about. Kale since their universe does not have that transformation. They don’t even have tails. So kale is a completely different thing

    • @maddad_ent4254
      @maddad_ent4254 4 місяці тому

      @@Sm0key_Rates you right. But then I could argue that their universe doesn't require a tail or the moon. Being a completely different type of saiyan.

    • @Sm0key_Rates
      @Sm0key_Rates 4 місяці тому +1

      @@maddad_ent4254 you could, but unless you have any proof, there’s nothing to back that claim up

    • @maddad_ent4254
      @maddad_ent4254 4 місяці тому

      @Sm0key_Rates facts. But I could just hit you with vice versa. 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @gunchar06
      @gunchar06 Місяць тому +1

      @@Sm0key_Rates Kale and Caulifla are very obviously the U6 counterparts of Broly and Goku though.

  • @jessegolden23
    @jessegolden23 Місяць тому

    Didnt make it past where you said Trunks and Goten had no training, Vegeta was training Trunks who in turn was training with Goten, who unlocked the transformation together and didnt bother to tell anyone until Vegeta threatened to not take Trunks to the circus or whatever thing he wanted to go to.

  • @richlavoie8315
    @richlavoie8315 4 місяці тому +3

    Why did you leave out pan

    • @Blackwind_Legacy
      @Blackwind_Legacy 4 місяці тому

      DBGT isn't canon . While Pan may have be the catalyst for god mode, I haven't seen much of Pan besides that. So that's a remains to be seen thing.

  • @TeeKayDee
    @TeeKayDee 3 місяці тому

    Can you talk about fan theory with transformation multipliers?
    There seems to be a misconception that SSJ is a 50x multiplier boost because in Frieza saga Goku became 50x stronger upon transforming. SSJ forms don't seem to be as high a multiplier in later sagas, strongly hinting at it not being a set multiplier.

  • @Sm0key_Rates
    @Sm0key_Rates 4 місяці тому +4

    Or the simple answer cheat codes, I mean who else has had their potential unlocked twice? NO ONE ELSE😂😂😂😂😂

    • @THEMOSTHATED203
      @THEMOSTHATED203 4 місяці тому

      I always said if Vegeta and Goku had their potential unleashed it would be an astronomical increase in their power

    • @Sm0key_Rates
      @Sm0key_Rates 4 місяці тому +1

      @@THEMOSTHATED203 exactly nobody wants to talk about that, though everyone thinks go on so powerful when it’s cheat codes

    • @meghanath07
      @meghanath07 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Sm0key_Ratesthe point is Vegeta and Goku don't have potential like Gohan or other half Saiyan does.

    • @Sm0key_Rates
      @Sm0key_Rates 4 місяці тому

      @@meghanath07 what proof do you even even have of that? There’s nothing stating that at all Goku had the same opportunity as Gohan, except that the elder Namek was already dead so he never met him. And when Elder Kai offered, he said no because he don’t do cheat codes quit gobbling on Gohan.

    • @meghanath07
      @meghanath07 4 місяці тому

      @@Sm0key_Rates it's stated literally. All you need to do is to start researching instead of commenting without information.
      HYBRID SAIYANS HAVE "S" CELLS UNLIKE FULL SAIYANS LIKE GOKU AND VEGETA. BECAUSE OF THIS S CELLS WHICH ARE COMBINATION OF HUMAN AND SAIYAN CELLS, THEY HAVE MASSIVE POTENTIAL. This is literally been stated by multiple times . In fact, toriyama recently said Gohan is STRONGER THAN ANYONE OR SO IT SAID.
      In another promotion material of dbssh, it is written that "GOHAN IN ORDER TO PROTECT HIS BELOVED DAUGHTER UNLEASHED HIS HIDDEN POTENTIAL AND BECAME THE STRONGEST WARRIOR"

  • @keiranking3778
    @keiranking3778 Місяць тому

    As a kid, I thought it was because he was drawing power as a kid having that dragon ball with him growing up

  • @maxmarrero-sb5ej
    @maxmarrero-sb5ej 5 місяців тому +3

    Lssj is now obsolete compared to the ultra ego an MUI. DBS Broly need a new form like MUI.

    • @Sm0key_Rates
      @Sm0key_Rates 4 місяці тому

      I’m gonna be honest with you that was the wild take. MUI&Ultra ego< SSJ blue gogeta so we don’t know

  • @BuggzyWaltafv
    @BuggzyWaltafv 4 місяці тому

    Gohan said himself he was secretly trainin thats how he got beast mode

  • @MoneybaggshawdyGaming
    @MoneybaggshawdyGaming 4 місяці тому +8

    Gohan is the strongest

  • @Spazza42
    @Spazza42 День тому

    TLDR; Gohan was the only one that wasn’t circumcised at birth.

  • @cloudman8911
    @cloudman8911 4 місяці тому +4

    Jiren potential is limitless. Jiren is the strongest!

    • @Juan_Uchiha
      @Juan_Uchiha 4 місяці тому +2

      🤣🤣he was strong, now he left in the past where he belong 🤣

    • @cloudman8911
      @cloudman8911 4 місяці тому

      @@Juan_Uchiha How do you know? The manga is ongoing.

    • @OriginalBosss
      @OriginalBosss 4 місяці тому +1

      Eh Broly smacks Jiren around with ease

    • @killingmachinelp
      @killingmachinelp 4 місяці тому +1

      BROLY'S POWER IS MAXIMUMER!

  • @NoClueBurns
    @NoClueBurns 2 місяці тому +1

    I feel like the argument that Goten and Trunks are stronger than Gohan BECAUSE they went super saying at an earlier age is so silly. The reason why is because it's like saying we are all way smarter than Pythagoras because we figured out the Pythagorean theorem at age (I forgot how old but I'll say) 14. No take away from the feat of being able to go super sayin 3 at what was it 7. That's crazy! However, there's a scene of Goku showing them how to do it (Unless i just remember wrong). Where as Gohan was the 1st person to build upon super sayin, and made the form super sayin 2. To go along with that, he rarely trains compaired to the other fighters, yet he still sky rockets his power to compete, match, or surpass other's levels.

  • @XOR-Ale
    @XOR-Ale Місяць тому +3

    People forget one thing...that Chi-Chi with a slipper in her hand > Zeno...

  • @marcofemto9417
    @marcofemto9417 2 місяці тому +5

    I think Vegeta has the highest combat IQ
    As in he could be a great commander of an army or figure out an enemy's fighting style
    But he is so obsessed with ONLY getting stronger

  • @redsaintking8889
    @redsaintking8889 2 місяці тому

    Its simple: Gohans greatest power is also his greatest weakness as we have seen across the series.
    Gohan has the most potential because of his genetic makeup with Saiyan and human DNA. He can reach untapoed wells of power yes, and because of his human emotions it amplifies this effect.
    However its also his greatest weakness because he has thoae emotions which hold him back from tapoing into it at will. That why he requires triggers more often than the other warriors.

  • @sLave_sPit
    @sLave_sPit 4 місяці тому +3

    Vegeta has always been stronger than Goku. Do you know how strong Vegeta would be if he knew how to use kai o ken like Goku? The technique is why Goku can even compete in the first place.

    • @bigred9991
      @bigred9991 4 місяці тому +3

      This is wrong on so many levels.

  • @GMorgan84
    @GMorgan84 26 днів тому

    One thing that is overlooked here is just knowledge advantage. Goku had to figure out Super Saiyan was even a concept. Then it wasn't actually complete, what we tend to call SSJ1 wasn't truly complete until Goku and Gohan exited the time chamber in the Cell Saga. So Gohan has the advantage of knowing about the completed SSJ1 at 11 which Goku and Vegeta obviously never had access to. It is also highly likely that Goku's access to Earth's martial arts, which were considered weird throughout early DBZ due to their ability to vary power levels, was necessary to achieve SSJ1 to begin with. Another issue of just knowledge gap if it turns out to be true.
    Similarly SSJ isn't even apparently a legend in Universe 6, without Vegeta showing them it is likely they never get there.

  • @Antwiso
    @Antwiso 3 місяці тому +3

    Goku invented ozaro
    Goku invented kiokien
    Goku invented super Saiyan
    Vegeta invented super super Saiyan
    Gohan invented super Saiyan 2
    Goku invented super Saiyan 3
    Goku invented super Saiyan 4
    Goku invented super Saiyan 5
    Gohan invented ultimate
    Goku invented super Saiyan God
    Goku and vegeta invented super Saiyan blue
    Goku invented super Saiyan blue kiokien
    Vegeta invented super Saiyan blue evolution
    Goku invented ultra instinct
    Goku invented mastered ultra instinct
    Goku invented perfect ultra instinct
    Goku invented true ultra instinct
    Goku invented avatar ultra instinct whatever
    Vegeta invented ultra ego
    Gohan invented beast
    Broly invented legendary super Saiyan
    Trunks invented super Saiyan rage
    That's all I know 😅

    • @deadmanrisen
      @deadmanrisen 2 місяці тому +1

      They didn’t invent anything. Tell me you didn’t watch the show without telling me you didn’t watch the show

  • @Aedenpfitzner
    @Aedenpfitzner Місяць тому

    what makes gohan insane is that even with years of not fighting and living a domestic life without training he was able to achieve a new transformation that can keep up with goku and vegeta who trained intensively yet gohan caught up like it was nothing

  • @meanman6992
    @meanman6992 4 місяці тому +3

    Or, or because the author forgot a lot but wanted certain story lines. Human failure in story telling. DB and DBZ were good story lines, went all to crap after that.

    • @jettsett9354
      @jettsett9354 4 місяці тому

      DB and DBZ still had their flaws, but they were consistent enough to be enjoyable. Can't say the same for what followed.

  • @danegay4327
    @danegay4327 3 місяці тому

    I've said this before on another video like this but the U6 saiyans and goten/trunks proved that transformation in saiyans seems to be more of a technique than anything and your power level prior to doesnt determine if you can do it or not.

  • @MattM-j9s
    @MattM-j9s 4 місяці тому +4

    Gohan is an emotionally weak boy/man, only reason he is even relevant is because plot armor he got when goku was going to be killed off in the andriod saga. Which is why goku gave gohan lead to defeat cell, he got a power up from guru and mystic unlocked and still just as soft as simba and i dont mean soft like fur but soft as in a weak leader.