the saddest part he never got to see his daugter he worked himself to the bone to give children a smile i bauled my eyes out for three hours when he/i heard that tape where ever he is now i hope he,s still giving the wasteland children a smile and know what childhood is
@@girf4233 Penny opposed the rest of her family though, and was set to marry Bryce Garrahan. Her child, which she presumably had with Bryce, also still lives in a Vault she knowingly took on massive radiation to save.
One of my favorite Bethesda's new designs, much better than retconning the whole lore and forcefully implementing T-60 or another "newer" military power armor. I really hope Bethesda will stop adding new military PA's, and instead will add police special forces versions, firefighter's PA or even civilian models.
@@vengeance160 I agree. T-60 was awkwardly implemented. The T-65 actually makes sense, in context. Much more so than the T-60. Hell, the prototype T-51 helmet you get from Grafton Steel makes more sense lol I'm definitely looking forward to the Union Power Armor though
I remember explaining to my friend that Fallout had an atompunk Coca Cola which was British Empire-ing every other beverage company in existence and using radioactive isotopes in one of its flavors. She started playing New Vegas 4 days later.
Couple bits on Garrahan: 1. They were planning to cheat in the competition with the pylons we now use for the Imposter, but they decided not to because of how they electrocute people. 2. They’re responsible for the mining suits of the mole miners in Appalachia, simply because we know Hornwright and AMS didn’t have human employees. While we don’t know if there was a problem with the suits themselves that lead to their mutation, we can’t rule that out when the ghost people (who are very similar in their origin) were caused by such an issue.
Also with the theory they were children working in the mines. Since most Mole Miners can be found with toys on them. They can be heard yelling "Mother". This could be for the Mother Load. Or, just a scared child yelling for their mother.
Hornwright did have human employees, they got rid of many of them in such inhumane ways that they were essentially left to rot, we know this because many of the locations that mole miners reside are in hornwright owned sites and that they had no issue closing mines with people still inside of them, there is also a lot of stuff that hints to their "accidents" being very intentional, very serious accidents that never seemed to happen when autominers were involved. It's also likely that many miners were slaves, so they would most definitely be off the books.
@@mykeh3155 Just because the sites were owned pre-war by Hornwright doesn’t mean the mole miners couldn’t have moved in post-war. That’s not sufficient evidence. And yes, Hornwright did have human employees but they fired all of the miners. Which mine are you referring to where people were locked inside? If it’s the ones used during lode baring, that happened because of the nukes. If you meant Monogah Mine, that was likely because the process was automated and by the time someone with Hornwright realized, it was too late to do something (also, none of them were employees, just people who were supposed to benefit from Hornwright’s payments to the town).
@@Lux-fe6fd I was going to respond to everything but I basically ended up writing a wiki article... To put it simply, neither of us have any real evidence that amounts to anything, it's all just a few misplaced recordings, scribbled notes that could very well be imaginative stories, and outdated or second-hand opinions from people we can't even trust, I just wanted to show how muddy the info is. They absolutely had staff, so that automatically ticks off the need for protective mining gear, wouldn't make sense to make/order entirely new gear, especially not for one of the cheapest and careless companies in the industry. They went to the extent of murder to deal with protestors and other companies being successful, they exploited people as much as possible, they had no (or very few) safety regulations, it's pretty much a guarantee that they had off the books miners as slaves, especially when you consider that many people in the region were desperate for work. If they didn't care to recover all of the mining equipment in Monongah, it's safe to assume they didn't care if people were down there stealing it, this was probably business as usual for them.
I remember in one of the textfiles I found for Hornwright that they cheated ALOT, to make the miners as efficent as the power armor, barely winning even while nearly doubling the amount of miners they were using. Meaning that Garrahan was right all along, man was still better than machine.
Thjs doesn't make much sense to me. How can a machine be outproduced by men? It should be stronger and cheaper, while not having to eat, breathe or sleep.
@@erikaitsumi2633 you gotta understand in fallout replacing miners with machines was about saving money not about being more efficient. Hornwright wanted to prove their design to sell it across the country and make oodles of money, they cared little for the miners who could by default perform the same task as the robots about as efficiently. They saw the competition as a way to drum up national interest in their autominer project and sell more. Their miners (as a few audio files will back up) had issues getting stuck, mining the wrong things, and in general well being not quite tough enough for the job thanks to cut corners.
@@Pathfinder118 Then it makes even less sense. If cost cutting was the primary goal, it shouldn't matter if the robots have one tenth of efficiency and speed if they have one hundredth of maintenance costs - after all, robots need pennies worth of electricity while humans cost minimum wage. And even if they would need human oversight (for example to check what are they mining), then the employment is still going down since one operator can look over many units. Or maybe an AI even, or smarter version of mining bot.
@@erikaitsumi2633 Your also talking about the real world, fallout uses it more as a metaphor for the rapid industrilization and destruction of the blue collar worker, this and to show that greed was far more important than the lives of the average person, when the miners that were fired revolted against the company by taking a bunch of the robots hostage so they could keep their jobs, the company used its money to get the army to go into the town and cause a massacre.
@@Pathfinder118 I agree with much of it, but I simply don't agree with "man better then the machine", because if robots replaced people, they must have been more economic then people. That's how greed works. If humans were efficient enough to beat the cost reduction of automation, they wouldn't be replaced because they would provide more money. Ones again, that's what greed means.
Aww man it's always nice to see companies that weren't extreme shit heads. I'd be pretty excited as a kid to see a power armored clad dude giving out pop
I'm surprised you didn't put Sunset Sarsaparilla on the list. I mean aside from them making up a lousy reward for the blue star contest at the last minute, they seem pretty good.
@@benjaminoechsli1941 It legitimately is. The main ingredient for Sarsaparilla is sassafras, which the CDC classifies as being too toxic for standard sales in grocery stores. Funny enough, cinnamon is actually way more toxic than sassafras, but it gets a pass because most people know too much cinnamon can overpower the taste, so people just generally don't use it in hazardous amounts.
They're a pretty standard shady megacorp by modern standards. Not good by any means, but at least they're not hiring thugs to fuck over the competition or putting radioactive isotopes in their beverages.
Not sure if it's ironic or funny that most of the "good" companies are smaller or medium sized companies. It kind of mirrors real life for the most part. Places that start out as Mom & Pop shops and don't forget their roots - and don't get sucked into the greed of it all. Not surprising there are no HUGE massive companies on this list for "good" companies. :)
I've worked for four family businesses, and 3 of them were breaking the law on a daily basis. One of them seemed to be perfectly legit. Small businesses often have a lot of incentive to cheat or do shady things, just to survive. A small business can't do the kind of damage that Enron or Volkswagen did, but enough of them all doing bad things still adds up to a lot of damage.
Something I found off-putting about Fallout 4 was how it felt like just about every pre-war office, factory, school, lab, etc. had some pointlessly dark story. In Fallout 3 and New Vegas, there were definitely some twisted pre-war secrets to be found but many times you would enter the building and it would be (GASP) a regular-ass place! I liked it when the dark aspects of a place were post-war, especially with examples like the raider dungeons of Springvale Elementary or Vault 3.
Yeah, in New Vegas the only places that had dark lore were (understandably) the vaults, which was meant to contrast how evil Vault-Tech was compared to other companies. Even then, Vault 22 and the vault where the overseer was elected to be sacrificed as part of a morality experiment were the only really dark ones.
@@GettyFan08 Project Cobalt was a collaboration between Nuka-Cola and the US Military, which only resulted in a single suit, not an independent local soda manufacturer
@@0311Mushroom Yeah that’s only cause Bethesda actively wipes their ass with the lore. T-51 was the pinnacle of power armour before the war and X-01 (or APA) was developed by the Enclave after the war
@@brysonkuervers2570 Pinnacle of technology not of cost effectiveness the T-60 is essentially a upgraded T-45 to the extant you could turn T-45 into T-60 with an upgrade kit thus more cost effective per unit due to not having the ceramic armor or something. There is also amphibious Marine Hellcat armor and Secret Service armor that shared some of its development with Enclave projects. Pinnacle of technology doesn't actually mean the best.
I imagine there were plenty of good companies, we just don't hear/know about them, given that the companies most seen in the Fallout series are the huge megacorps that effectively had control over the country.
For H&H tools was hr implementing the bad stuff before or after house's dad passed because after and I think it's more of a bad owner rather than a bad company
it seemed like a normal company untill houses brother took over full leading to policy and employee changes thats wat i got from reading the terminals there anyway
@@couriersix8294 thats cuz his half brother(robert house) was trying to take the company from him and succeed right before the bombs dropped cuz he stole robert's share of inheritance from robert when their father died. he was paranoid cuz robert made it clear he was going to get back at him. in the files ya can read about how he was going crazier and crazier until robert finally won. thats why that company is a death trap.
@@couriersix8294 I mean, when you backstab your brother taking over your father's company, and that brother is non other than Mr House, I would also start getting a wee paranoid.
Interestingly, I think General Atomics International actually ended up carrying a fairly clean record, at least for being one of the oldest and largest of the megacorporation's in Fallout. Largely being an appliance manufacturer, their capacity for evil was a bit limited, even though they often experimented a lot. The creation of the Robobrain is easily the biggest crime I can remember them committing, and I believe it was only ever ostensibly canon, inferred and referenced from the old Fallout Bible, making the extent of the crime hard to figure. For the most part though, General Atomics made robotics and appliances, sometimes for the military, yes, but none of that was really evil, just not as wholesome. Even their Artificial Intelligence Networked Robots thing was a good-intentioned failure. While not as clean as other companies mentioned in the video, the fact that GAI was one of the original Megacorporation's and still this clean should be noted.
Fallout 3 had robobrains and an audio tape of some scientists terminating a test after it turned out that the prisoner whose brain theyd stolen was still self-aware when they turned on the robobrain, and cursed them out before they...terminated him.
there is one thing i wonder about with fallout soda dispencers: why are they so big yet store so little? what i believe on how many soda bottles they can store is 12 of the small bottles and i wonder how the 2 other soda bottle sizes would look like in fallout universe
I know it's just a game but it's still very sad to see what went on just before the end of the world. This might be one of the worst fallouts but you have to hand it to Bethesda for putting as much detail in this as they did.
did chryslus (corvega) ever do anything bad? as a company that large you'd expect it to be evil in the fallout universe but I haven't found anything on it... I just love their cars so much, I really hope they didn't do anything bad. I'd be pretty sad :( Tailfins forever!
They falsely advertised their cars as "fusion powered" when in reality they were fission powered as evident by the explosion as fusion doesn't explode. They likely also helped developed tanks and other military vehicles much like their real world counterpart.
I think one could add Super Duper Mart to the list. As far as I can tell, they were just a grocery store chain, nothing shady there - any problems related to them would've been from the supply side of things, not the company itself. Sunset Sarsaparilla, as others have already pointed out, also seems to have a fairly mundane reputation, they just made soda. Not their fault that wastelanders came up with wild tales about their "blue star" marketing campaign. Chryslus Motors Corporation, as far as we know, didn't have anything shady going on either, the only notable thing we know about them being that they introduced fusion-powered cars to the world, although too late to prevent a war that the powers that be seemed dead set on having even if the crisis they used as an excuse was ever resolved. It also helps that they built their products to LAST (they'd better if they're going to charge $200K for one, otherwise you'll be paying off the loan to buy that car after it's already stopped working), whereas they could've very easily gone with the "planned obsolesence" route to keep people buying their products if they really wanted to; the fact that they didn't do that tells me that they saw there was more good to be done in the long run if they decided to put off short term profit in exchange for reducing demand on dwindling reserves of fossils fuels and maybe saving America from destruction...but, of course, they failed. One more I'd like to mention is the Boston Bugle, which seems to be a rare case of a news company that just wants to do their job, no need for sensationalism and yellow journalism (really I wish more irl media companies were like that, but that's not a discussion we'll have here). One of their employees even uncovered the Enclave, including their headquarters, before the war, but the bombs fell before the story could go public.
I wonder if Vimpop has any inspiration from Vimto, originally called Vim Tonic. Vimto is a British soft drink, it's a blackcurrant and grape flavoured drink with a slightly "spiced" taste, almost like Mulled Wine (Vimto served hot is actually really warming in winter). It is sold carbonated and a still concentrate (what we call squash in the UK).
Vimpop is inspired by Moxie. A Maine soda that was intially sold as a tonic. Up here you'll find Moxie being sold right next to Coca-Cola and Pepsi. Maine, especially Bar Harbor also holds a staunch hatred for any business that isn't local or state grown
@@zeevnation6558 I understand that in terms of branding and the type of beverage that it's based on Moxie, but the name is simply too close to Vimto for me to think it's not a reference to that.
Sometimes the pre war government and big corporations make me think the nukes weren't so bad honestly, especially the Canadian annexation and the numerous war crimes committed
About the Giddy Up Buttercup. What do you think the Zetans in Fallout 3 were doing with all those toy horses? Especially the one in the middle, with all the body parts around it. I would like to hear your piece on that. :)
I remembered finding the story of the beaver creak lanes and I found it both heartwarming and sad. These were just normal people living their lives, all friends who played bowling who faced tragedy after tragedy culminating in the apocalypse. It’s stories like theirs that make the world feel alive I also really like the striker as a reusable fatman if you want it, it’s a fun little gimmick weapon
I would argue that ArcJet Systems were all mostly good, or if not good, benign. The CEO was focused on keeping his company afloat and making sure his staff stayed employed.
-Vim was in the red... yeah, because Nuka-Cola is about as amoral as IRL Nestle (Clean drinking water is not a human right), and was driving them there with industrial sabotage. -Wilson Atomatoys... You never played Fallout 3, Mothership Zeta. I'm not sure those horses are as innocent as you think. -Beaver Creek Lanes. You missed the fact that those goobers had installed a crude wheelchair ramp up the front stairs. You even walked on it in the video. They were dead set on helping their buddy bowl that 300. Also, that wasn't a landslide, that was those Nuka Cola bastards sabotaging a soda truck and causing it to fly off the road above the lanes, and they were playing shitty-buggers with the insurance and law too, tying the payout for Beaver Creek in red tape... Beaver Creek literally suffered from the fallout from the soda wars.
Not sure if I agree with the garahan one….their miners led shitty lives and the ones who were trapped in the mines when the world went down became mutant mole men lol
> An old Fat Man Wait, what? The Fat Man was developed in '76, and completed in September 77, a month before the end of the world. But some guy in Maine had a spare, old Fat Man?
I'm guessing it's one of the prototypes that was worn out. Fat man's were put into mass production very quickly, and it wouldn't surprise me if some of the more heavily used ones got worn out pretty quickly. In likelihood it's just Bethesda forgetting their lore and creating plot holes.
The Boston Bugle office features articles on terminals in which a anti war view is espoused, and criticism is laid at the US government. Pretty surprising given the setting
Another soda company in the series that's clean as a whistle is Sunset Sarsaparilla. Nuka Cola tried to buy them out and then resorted to bribing health officials to sue them for symptoms of drinking too much soda IRL in order to try and shut down competition.
Hey, I've never played fallout 4 (I'm assuming that's what this game play is) but I'm really interested in your play style and the gun, would you be interested in making a video on how you get this this point and how to play aswell as how to play like you?
The autominers winning, causing the automation to secure a complete victory is stupid. We're talking about an era where everything is automated, and machine has long beaten man, as far back as the 1920s. The fact that man got so close to beating machine would have made an uproar, and undoubtedly flood the job market with applicants for excavator suits.
The irony is that these good companies weren't introduced to Fallout until well after it was bought out by an evil, money-grubbing corporation and not while it was in the possession of the original artists that wanted to create a fun game with a potent message.
Yes interplay the ones who said fuck off to every person that wanted van buren and wanted a sequel for the worst game in the franchise and could have been the one who put final nail coffin
If I had the option of fallout being controlled by modern day Obsidian, modern day Bethesda or Interplay before its fall I would choose Bethesda any day.
@@disillusionedrightest7313 I'll admit, Obsidian really let us all down with the Outer Worlds. They made New Vegas in under a year with tons of quests, unique and fun guns, good combat, and an enjoyable game loop. I mean, the Outer Worlds was fun the first time through, but I just couldn't get back into it for follow-up runs. The combat is just so. . . boring. Honestly, once you've beaten it once, the entire thing is pretty boring. . .
3 people with the correct tools with the strictest possible margin of error with a fully automated company line, and this was seen as a win for automation? A fourth person would have made this a slaughter in favor of the human labor at a fraction of the overall cost.
All of these company’s did bad stuff too but had some good employees like Wilson atomatoys screwed Arlen over but he was a sweet man trying to bring hope to hopeless world
I'd argue that Wilson Atomatoys was a reasonably good company right up until the end. Supporting your country in time of war by repurposing your factories to produce military ordnance is hardly an evil act, although the country at the time was pretty corrupt by then. Still, the Nate, the male Sole Survivor served his country in war too, and he isn't evil. Unless you choose to make him evil, anyway. WA did not abuse its employees, did not produce faulty products that harmed its customers, or really do any of the other horrific actions Fallout corporations tend to do.
And fallout 4 there's a place near the vault called Mr Peeps hidey hole and it says in the computer in there that he's been following you is there anything about that guy
Ask yourself, has any other game created lore for all of its little hardly noticeable companies?? It’s like fallout has these things that are totally unrelated to the game or story and just branch off into a rabbit hole. Like a note buried under atomic waste sending you on a mission to know what this guy was 200 years ago and him pointing you to more holotapes and telling you how his dad treated him and his first days in the wasteland. Stuff you can miss in a hundred playthroughs . It’s like every single peace of trash in these games has a story u can discover
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You should also add that you actually meet the CEO of wilson atomotoys and he's just a sweet old man fixing up old giddyup buttercups all day
Where is he?
@@insomniagobrrr5542 the slog, the ghoul settlement
Was Arlen really the CEO?
@@thejunktownsheriffkilliand4800 no george wilson was
the saddest part he never got to see his daugter he worked himself to the bone to give children a smile i bauled my eyes out for three hours when he/i heard that tape where ever he is now i hope he,s still giving the wasteland children a smile and know what childhood is
The irony is that after the war, the Hornwrights are almost all dead, but the Excavator Power Armor lives on in the use of many survivors who love it.
Rushed into full production by the 76s, each one lovingly hand crafted.
I mean Penelope still lives. Wouldn't for long if it wasn't for that damned essential tag..
@@girf4233 Penny opposed the rest of her family though, and was set to marry Bryce Garrahan. Her child, which she presumably had with Bryce, also still lives in a Vault she knowingly took on massive radiation to save.
One of my favorite Bethesda's new designs, much better than retconning the whole lore and forcefully implementing T-60 or another "newer" military power armor. I really hope Bethesda will stop adding new military PA's, and instead will add police special forces versions, firefighter's PA or even civilian models.
@@vengeance160 I agree. T-60 was awkwardly implemented. The T-65 actually makes sense, in context. Much more so than the T-60. Hell, the prototype T-51 helmet you get from Grafton Steel makes more sense lol
I'm definitely looking forward to the Union Power Armor though
I remember explaining to my friend that Fallout had an atompunk Coca Cola which was British Empire-ing every other beverage company in existence and using radioactive isotopes in one of its flavors. She started playing New Vegas 4 days later.
New Vegas is the best game, imo. Then again, I like 76, so take this with a grain of salt
New Vegas is the best fallout game yet
@@drydoidoi1593 You will not find much arguement against liking New Vegas. Out of all the games, it's the most consistently beloved.
@@current3109 new vegas was a banger but its overrated as fuck
@@Venom_Snake84-t7z This, especially the entire dance-around to getting the game to actually WORK.
Couple bits on Garrahan:
1. They were planning to cheat in the competition with the pylons we now use for the Imposter, but they decided not to because of how they electrocute people.
2. They’re responsible for the mining suits of the mole miners in Appalachia, simply because we know Hornwright and AMS didn’t have human employees. While we don’t know if there was a problem with the suits themselves that lead to their mutation, we can’t rule that out when the ghost people (who are very similar in their origin) were caused by such an issue.
Also with the theory they were children working in the mines. Since most Mole Miners can be found with toys on them. They can be heard yelling "Mother". This could be for the Mother Load. Or, just a scared child yelling for their mother.
Hornwright did have human employees, they got rid of many of them in such inhumane ways that they were essentially left to rot, we know this because many of the locations that mole miners reside are in hornwright owned sites and that they had no issue closing mines with people still inside of them, there is also a lot of stuff that hints to their "accidents" being very intentional, very serious accidents that never seemed to happen when autominers were involved. It's also likely that many miners were slaves, so they would most definitely be off the books.
@@mykeh3155 Just because the sites were owned pre-war by Hornwright doesn’t mean the mole miners couldn’t have moved in post-war. That’s not sufficient evidence.
And yes, Hornwright did have human employees but they fired all of the miners.
Which mine are you referring to where people were locked inside? If it’s the ones used during lode baring, that happened because of the nukes. If you meant Monogah Mine, that was likely because the process was automated and by the time someone with Hornwright realized, it was too late to do something (also, none of them were employees, just people who were supposed to benefit from Hornwright’s payments to the town).
@@mcpossum They definitely aren’t yelling mother. Check the dialogue file for them on the wiki - that should put that theory to rest.
@@Lux-fe6fd I was going to respond to everything but I basically ended up writing a wiki article...
To put it simply, neither of us have any real evidence that amounts to anything, it's all just a few misplaced recordings, scribbled notes that could very well be imaginative stories, and outdated or second-hand opinions from people we can't even trust, I just wanted to show how muddy the info is.
They absolutely had staff, so that automatically ticks off the need for protective mining gear, wouldn't make sense to make/order entirely new gear, especially not for one of the cheapest and careless companies in the industry.
They went to the extent of murder to deal with protestors and other companies being successful, they exploited people as much as possible, they had no (or very few) safety regulations, it's pretty much a guarantee that they had off the books miners as slaves, especially when you consider that many people in the region were desperate for work.
If they didn't care to recover all of the mining equipment in Monongah, it's safe to assume they didn't care if people were down there stealing it, this was probably business as usual for them.
“4 Pre-War Fallout Companies that were actually good”
*Dr.Möbius Voice* NOT SCIENTIFICALLY POSSIBLE!
Nothing is unpossible with SCIENCE!
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…say, what was I talking about again?
dr morbius
@@istoleyunomilesbigmac its robo-scorpion' time
He had a very good raisin for saying so, he just can't remember what it was.
I remember in one of the textfiles I found for Hornwright that they cheated ALOT, to make the miners as efficent as the power armor, barely winning even while nearly doubling the amount of miners they were using. Meaning that Garrahan was right all along, man was still better than machine.
Thjs doesn't make much sense to me. How can a machine be outproduced by men? It should be stronger and cheaper, while not having to eat, breathe or sleep.
@@erikaitsumi2633 you gotta understand in fallout replacing miners with machines was about saving money not about being more efficient. Hornwright wanted to prove their design to sell it across the country and make oodles of money, they cared little for the miners who could by default perform the same task as the robots about as efficiently. They saw the competition as a way to drum up national interest in their autominer project and sell more. Their miners (as a few audio files will back up) had issues getting stuck, mining the wrong things, and in general well being not quite tough enough for the job thanks to cut corners.
@@Pathfinder118 Then it makes even less sense. If cost cutting was the primary goal, it shouldn't matter if the robots have one tenth of efficiency and speed if they have one hundredth of maintenance costs - after all, robots need pennies worth of electricity while humans cost minimum wage.
And even if they would need human oversight (for example to check what are they mining), then the employment is still going down since one operator can look over many units. Or maybe an AI even, or smarter version of mining bot.
@@erikaitsumi2633 Your also talking about the real world, fallout uses it more as a metaphor for the rapid industrilization and destruction of the blue collar worker, this and to show that greed was far more important than the lives of the average person, when the miners that were fired revolted against the company by taking a bunch of the robots hostage so they could keep their jobs, the company used its money to get the army to go into the town and cause a massacre.
@@Pathfinder118 I agree with much of it, but I simply don't agree with "man better then the machine", because if robots replaced people, they must have been more economic then people. That's how greed works. If humans were efficient enough to beat the cost reduction of automation, they wouldn't be replaced because they would provide more money. Ones again, that's what greed means.
Aww man it's always nice to see companies that weren't extreme shit heads. I'd be pretty excited as a kid to see a power armored clad dude giving out pop
I'm surprised you didn't put Sunset Sarsaparilla on the list. I mean aside from them making up a lousy reward for the blue star contest at the last minute, they seem pretty good.
Yeah, that silly ol' health advisory was a bunch of hooey.
@@benjaminoechsli1941 It legitimately is. The main ingredient for Sarsaparilla is sassafras, which the CDC classifies as being too toxic for standard sales in grocery stores. Funny enough, cinnamon is actually way more toxic than sassafras, but it gets a pass because most people know too much cinnamon can overpower the taste, so people just generally don't use it in hazardous amounts.
@@LifelessTooth so may i ask if you can science me up how toxic a single sarsaparilla is in total
They're a pretty standard shady megacorp by modern standards. Not good by any means, but at least they're not hiring thugs to fuck over the competition or putting radioactive isotopes in their beverages.
@@molassesman4066 100. Source: _ ____ __ __.
Not sure if it's ironic or funny that most of the "good" companies are smaller or medium sized companies. It kind of mirrors real life for the most part. Places that start out as Mom & Pop shops and don't forget their roots - and don't get sucked into the greed of it all. Not surprising there are no HUGE massive companies on this list for "good" companies. :)
I've worked for four family businesses, and 3 of them were breaking the law on a daily basis. One of them seemed to be perfectly legit.
Small businesses often have a lot of incentive to cheat or do shady things, just to survive. A small business can't do the kind of damage that Enron or Volkswagen did, but enough of them all doing bad things still adds up to a lot of damage.
@@thevoxdeus At that point it depends on what laws they’re breaking and why.
@@thevoxdeusnow thats just illogical
Oh, the Bowling Alley one hit me hard when I found it.
Heh, I was hoping you put Beaver Creek Lanes on the list. When I read those terminals I was surprised with such a wholesome story, I was shocked.
Something I found off-putting about Fallout 4 was how it felt like just about every pre-war office, factory, school, lab, etc. had some pointlessly dark story. In Fallout 3 and New Vegas, there were definitely some twisted pre-war secrets to be found but many times you would enter the building and it would be (GASP) a regular-ass place! I liked it when the dark aspects of a place were post-war, especially with examples like the raider dungeons of Springvale Elementary or Vault 3.
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Yeah, in New Vegas the only places that had dark lore were (understandably) the vaults, which was meant to contrast how evil Vault-Tech was compared to other companies. Even then, Vault 22 and the vault where the overseer was elected to be sacrificed as part of a morality experiment were the only really dark ones.
Ya you couldn't kick over a rock without finding some sort of conspiracy.
You sound like if the diamond city radio guy didn't have constant voice cracks
1:48 Can I ask how the heck a *soda company* can get access to several suits of state of the art power armor during a war?
Project Cobalt
@@GettyFan08 Project Cobalt was a collaboration between Nuka-Cola and the US Military, which only resulted in a single suit, not an independent local soda manufacturer
The T51 was already being phased out for the new T60, and the X01 was already in development.
@@0311Mushroom Yeah that’s only cause Bethesda actively wipes their ass with the lore. T-51 was the pinnacle of power armour before the war and X-01 (or APA) was developed by the Enclave after the war
@@brysonkuervers2570 Pinnacle of technology not of cost effectiveness the T-60 is essentially a upgraded T-45 to the extant you could turn T-45 into T-60 with an upgrade kit thus more cost effective per unit due to not having the ceramic armor or something.
There is also amphibious Marine Hellcat armor and Secret Service armor that shared some of its development with Enclave projects.
Pinnacle of technology doesn't actually mean the best.
Its amazing how much lore there is to read and engage with in the Fallout universe. Great video, didnt know about some of these
I never read terminals but I'll watch tons of lore videos.
Beaver creek lanes also built a ramp you can see still outside for his wheelchair
I imagine there were plenty of good companies, we just don't hear/know about them, given that the companies most seen in the Fallout series are the huge megacorps that effectively had control over the country.
For H&H tools was hr implementing the bad stuff before or after house's dad passed because after and I think it's more of a bad owner rather than a bad company
it seemed like a normal company untill houses brother took over full leading to policy and employee changes thats wat i got from reading the terminals there anyway
@@couriersix8294 I thought that was the case if memory serves he was a crazy and paranoid man
@@robertcross9863 yeah he was obsessed with the idea that someone had it out for him and wanted the company too
@@couriersix8294 thats cuz his half brother(robert house) was trying to take the company from him and succeed right before the bombs dropped cuz he stole robert's share of inheritance from robert when their father died. he was paranoid cuz robert made it clear he was going to get back at him. in the files ya can read about how he was going crazier and crazier until robert finally won. thats why that company is a death trap.
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I mean, when you backstab your brother taking over your father's company, and that brother is non other than Mr House, I would also start getting a wee paranoid.
I really like the aesthetic of Vim.
Interestingly, I think General Atomics International actually ended up carrying a fairly clean record, at least for being one of the oldest and largest of the megacorporation's in Fallout. Largely being an appliance manufacturer, their capacity for evil was a bit limited, even though they often experimented a lot. The creation of the Robobrain is easily the biggest crime I can remember them committing, and I believe it was only ever ostensibly canon, inferred and referenced from the old Fallout Bible, making the extent of the crime hard to figure.
For the most part though, General Atomics made robotics and appliances, sometimes for the military, yes, but none of that was really evil, just not as wholesome. Even their Artificial Intelligence Networked Robots thing was a good-intentioned failure. While not as clean as other companies mentioned in the video, the fact that GAI was one of the original Megacorporation's and still this clean should be noted.
Fallout 3 had robobrains and an audio tape of some scientists terminating a test after it turned out that the prisoner whose brain theyd stolen was still self-aware when they turned on the robobrain, and cursed them out before they...terminated him.
Well they made the Robobrains
Fallout 4's Automaton expansion explores the origins of Robobrains.
I wonder if they were above board because General Atomics is a real world company.
General Atomics has a giant facility in Boston where it conducted pretty fucked up experiments on humans to make robobrains
there is one thing i wonder about with fallout soda dispencers: why are they so big yet store so little? what i believe on how many soda bottles they can store is 12 of the small bottles and i wonder how the 2 other soda bottle sizes would look like in fallout universe
I know it's just a game but it's still very sad to see what went on just before the end of the world. This might be one of the worst fallouts but you have to hand it to Bethesda for putting as much detail in this as they did.
There is no worst Fallout, they’re all equally good in their own ways.
@@fizzco3373 brotherhood of steel
@@fizzco3373 they are all equally bad doodoo stinky
@@fizzco3373 Tactics or Brotherhood of Steel, no redemption in either
@@GungaGingster1215 Huh?
I love these longer videos, can’t wait to see more
I love the interior and exterior of the Wilson atomatoys. I would love to work in a building like that (pre war of course)
did chryslus (corvega) ever do anything bad? as a company that large you'd expect it to be evil in the fallout universe but I haven't found anything on it...
I just love their cars so much, I really hope they didn't do anything bad. I'd be pretty sad :(
Tailfins forever!
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They are probably a private military contractor like Chrysler, so it's 100% guaranteed they have done something bad
They falsely advertised their cars as "fusion powered" when in reality they were fission powered as evident by the explosion as fusion doesn't explode. They likely also helped developed tanks and other military vehicles much like their real world counterpart.
I think one could add Super Duper Mart to the list. As far as I can tell, they were just a grocery store chain, nothing shady there - any problems related to them would've been from the supply side of things, not the company itself.
Sunset Sarsaparilla, as others have already pointed out, also seems to have a fairly mundane reputation, they just made soda. Not their fault that wastelanders came up with wild tales about their "blue star" marketing campaign.
Chryslus Motors Corporation, as far as we know, didn't have anything shady going on either, the only notable thing we know about them being that they introduced fusion-powered cars to the world, although too late to prevent a war that the powers that be seemed dead set on having even if the crisis they used as an excuse was ever resolved. It also helps that they built their products to LAST (they'd better if they're going to charge $200K for one, otherwise you'll be paying off the loan to buy that car after it's already stopped working), whereas they could've very easily gone with the "planned obsolesence" route to keep people buying their products if they really wanted to; the fact that they didn't do that tells me that they saw there was more good to be done in the long run if they decided to put off short term profit in exchange for reducing demand on dwindling reserves of fossils fuels and maybe saving America from destruction...but, of course, they failed.
One more I'd like to mention is the Boston Bugle, which seems to be a rare case of a news company that just wants to do their job, no need for sensationalism and yellow journalism (really I wish more irl media companies were like that, but that's not a discussion we'll have here). One of their employees even uncovered the Enclave, including their headquarters, before the war, but the bombs fell before the story could go public.
I wonder if Vimpop has any inspiration from Vimto, originally called Vim Tonic. Vimto is a British soft drink, it's a blackcurrant and grape flavoured drink with a slightly "spiced" taste, almost like Mulled Wine (Vimto served hot is actually really warming in winter). It is sold carbonated and a still concentrate (what we call squash in the UK).
Vimpop is inspired by Moxie. A Maine soda that was intially sold as a tonic. Up here you'll find Moxie being sold right next to Coca-Cola and Pepsi. Maine, especially Bar Harbor also holds a staunch hatred for any business that isn't local or state grown
@@zeevnation6558 I understand that in terms of branding and the type of beverage that it's based on Moxie, but the name is simply too close to Vimto for me to think it's not a reference to that.
@@calum5975 Oh yeah, I wouldn't put it past them at all to do that!
Great video, as always.
Sometimes the pre war government and big corporations make me think the nukes weren't so bad honestly, especially the Canadian annexation and the numerous war crimes committed
Thank you for looking for the good in the Fallout universe. :) *** I enjoyed your video very much.
Best UA-camr on this website
About the Giddy Up Buttercup. What do you think the Zetans in Fallout 3 were doing with all those toy horses? Especially the one in the middle, with all the body parts around it. I would like to hear your piece on that. :)
"We must replicate this small robotic equine"
"Why?"
"For the Zetan children, of course!"
No time to sleep, norte uploaded a full video
When it comes to the toymaker, its not like he was sending land mines to kids hidden it toys. He simply switched to a wartime production...
The Garrahan vs. the Hornwrites fight is like Paul Bunyan
I can see that. I also feel like it's a reference to the Hatfields and McCoys.
It is a reference to the legendary showdown between rail workers and automatic spike driving machines.
good companys are so rare people call their news conspiracy theories ...
It is suggested in earlier Fallouts that the Giddy Up Buttercup is something aliens had an interest in so it is perhaps not that innocent
Vim is Moxie. Right down to the health tonic origin.
I remembered finding the story of the beaver creak lanes and I found it both heartwarming and sad. These were just normal people living their lives, all friends who played bowling who faced tragedy after tragedy culminating in the apocalypse. It’s stories like theirs that make the world feel alive
I also really like the striker as a reusable fatman if you want it, it’s a fun little gimmick weapon
I'm surprised any exist
I’d give almost anything to play fallout for the first time again
Can you do more of these?
I love that they added moxie (aka vim) to far harbour
Great video. Thanks for sharing
I would argue that ArcJet Systems were all mostly good, or if not good, benign. The CEO was focused on keeping his company afloat and making sure his staff stayed employed.
This video had to be made honestly. Never realized all the good companies in the Fallout Universe.
-Vim was in the red... yeah, because Nuka-Cola is about as amoral as IRL Nestle (Clean drinking water is not a human right), and was driving them there with industrial sabotage.
-Wilson Atomatoys... You never played Fallout 3, Mothership Zeta. I'm not sure those horses are as innocent as you think.
-Beaver Creek Lanes. You missed the fact that those goobers had installed a crude wheelchair ramp up the front stairs. You even walked on it in the video. They were dead set on helping their buddy bowl that 300. Also, that wasn't a landslide, that was those Nuka Cola bastards sabotaging a soda truck and causing it to fly off the road above the lanes, and they were playing shitty-buggers with the insurance and law too, tying the payout for Beaver Creek in red tape... Beaver Creek literally suffered from the fallout from the soda wars.
Not sure if I agree with the garahan one….their miners led shitty lives and the ones who were trapped in the mines when the world went down became mutant mole men lol
I never read the terminals but I love lore videos.
The last message from the Wilson Automatoys broke my fucking heart...
> An old Fat Man
Wait, what? The Fat Man was developed in '76, and completed in September 77, a month before the end of the world. But some guy in Maine had a spare, old Fat Man?
I'm guessing it's one of the prototypes that was worn out. Fat man's were put into mass production very quickly, and it wouldn't surprise me if some of the more heavily used ones got worn out pretty quickly. In likelihood it's just Bethesda forgetting their lore and creating plot holes.
story about mining company is so cool
The Boston Bugle office features articles on terminals in which a anti war view is espoused, and criticism is laid at the US government. Pretty surprising given the setting
Another soda company in the series that's clean as a whistle is Sunset Sarsaparilla. Nuka Cola tried to buy them out and then resorted to bribing health officials to sue them for symptoms of drinking too much soda IRL in order to try and shut down competition.
Hey, I've never played fallout 4 (I'm assuming that's what this game play is) but I'm really interested in your play style and the gun, would you be interested in making a video on how you get this this point and how to play aswell as how to play like you?
"most companies in fallout will try to turn a profit at any expense." ah just like real life too, love bethesda taking the realism approach
The autominers winning, causing the automation to secure a complete victory is stupid. We're talking about an era where everything is automated, and machine has long beaten man, as far back as the 1920s. The fact that man got so close to beating machine would have made an uproar, and undoubtedly flood the job market with applicants for excavator suits.
Omg crazy I saw this video and before I even started it the first thing I thought was “Vim”
The irony is that these good companies weren't introduced to Fallout until well after it was bought out by an evil, money-grubbing corporation and not while it was in the possession of the original artists that wanted to create a fun game with a potent message.
Yes interplay the ones who said fuck off to every person that wanted van buren and wanted a sequel for the worst game in the franchise and could have been the one who put final nail coffin
If I had the option of fallout being controlled by modern day Obsidian, modern day Bethesda or Interplay before its fall I would choose Bethesda any day.
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Interplay wants to make a 76 sequel?
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I'll admit, Obsidian really let us all down with the Outer Worlds. They made New Vegas in under a year with tons of quests, unique and fun guns, good combat, and an enjoyable game loop. I mean, the Outer Worlds was fun the first time through, but I just couldn't get back into it for follow-up runs. The combat is just so. . . boring. Honestly, once you've beaten it once, the entire thing is pretty boring. . .
@@isaacschmitt4803 He was referring to Brotherhood of Steel
great videos man
Note that all of these companies are very small local companies, the largest being only statewide.
6:45 Guess they never thought of a downward ramp.
Vim is literally the story of Moxie, a real world soft-drink lmao
I had no idea
West Tek Missing ?
nah man they did horrible horrible crap
someone doesn't know 76 lore
@@juancarlos-uv4lh nah g they made medicine so they couldn't be bad and Fawkes wouldn't exist with them 🤔
@@shiby1860 Huntersville was a great success they added some bussin flavor to the water
They're responsible for what happened at Mariposa, probably among the absolute worst when it came to ethics.
3 evil vs 4 "good" (aka not illegal irl) man seems like real life
Love Vim Pop company. Wish it was a real soda.
I LOVE your content but I’d love to see more about New Vegas from you.
I think that Hubris Comics was also doing well :)
its funny how we all got them in far harbor
At this point the fallout is looking better than the pre war life.
You've earned a sub!
3 people with the correct tools with the strictest possible margin of error with a fully automated company line, and this was seen as a win for automation?
A fourth person would have made this a slaughter in favor of the human labor at a fraction of the overall cost.
Me now wondering where vehicle companies in Fallout went: *png of that one confused guy meme*
I still refuse to believe that *Appalachia* of all places would push for automation, we don't even really like self-checks
All of these company’s did bad stuff too but had some good employees like Wilson atomatoys screwed Arlen over but he was a sweet man trying to bring hope to hopeless world
I wonder if there is any lore stuff for Red Rocket?
I'd argue that Wilson Atomatoys was a reasonably good company right up until the end. Supporting your country in time of war by repurposing your factories to produce military ordnance is hardly an evil act, although the country at the time was pretty corrupt by then. Still, the Nate, the male Sole Survivor served his country in war too, and he isn't evil. Unless you choose to make him evil, anyway. WA did not abuse its employees, did not produce faulty products that harmed its customers, or really do any of the other horrific actions Fallout corporations tend to do.
Man i love playing Bar harbor
Probably the push for automation was the coming war and the survivors would need those resource's
Is a part two of this even possible?
Aww man the last part made me very sad
The fact that there is ONLY four
The title was a shocker 😂
I don't recall Sunset Sassparilla doing anything outright villainous and that's practically a good guy by Fallout standards
Ehh....
What about Red Rocket? The most they did was assassinations, other than that they were pretty good.
I think Corvega and Gwinnett could make the list...
Now do all of the good factions.
Fun fact, Vim! is based on a real company, Moxie.
vimpop is TOTALLY a parody of Moxie
MAKE A PART TWO!
And fallout 4 there's a place near the vault called Mr Peeps hidey hole and it says in the computer in there that he's been following you is there anything about that guy
Sounds like a mod
Was Hubris comics? I don't Remember
A few tanks of gasoline for a nuclear catapult
With that rate, I could purchase a real nuke with a full tank!
Ask yourself, has any other game created lore for all of its little hardly noticeable companies?? It’s like fallout has these things that are totally unrelated to the game or story and just branch off into a rabbit hole. Like a note buried under atomic waste sending you on a mission to know what this guy was 200 years ago and him pointing you to more holotapes and telling you how his dad treated him and his first days in the wasteland. Stuff you can miss in a hundred playthroughs . It’s like every single peace of trash in these games has a story u can discover
vim pop sounds a bit like a reference to moxie
cool video
Thank you
´Reality found it´s litarally Art mirror" in the Fallout Saga Apocalypse ...
Fallout is a great story about the steadily developing inhumanity of corporate America
I knew he was gonna say Vim! Lol