...which got me thinking whether this dock be used with a computer that does NOT have a single M.2 port? In other words, for example - use an M.2 to USB 3.0 adapter to connect to the computer and the GPU etc as shown in this video. Or have I been watching too many Jeff Geerling videos 😃 Keep up the great work, guys? Perhaps you guys should consider doing a collab video on getting something like that to work in case there might not be a straightforward way to do that...
Pro tip with the laptop setup, they make HDMI dummy plugs (google it, you will find a bunch) that you can plug into the external GPU. It will trick the GPU into thinking it has a working monitor plugged in. With that set up, you go into display settings and set the GPU to have the same resolution as the laptop display then set the the laptop and GPU to duplicate each other with the GPU set as the primary display adapter. This way a game that loads wont even look at the integrated graphics and load on the correct GPU, but since the laptop display is duplicating whatever is showing on the external GPU you will see the game/desktop as though it was running on the internal GPU. Now you don't need the external monitor.
I think an interesting test would be to run benchmark tests on a normal PC between connecting a GPU through the PCIe slot and an M.2 X4 slot. That would really tell us what the performance drop off of this setup is.
So many forums say things like it's impossible to use an external GPU on a laptop or mini-PC because there's no interface or because PCIe x2 isn't enough. It's great to see this setup!
yip this would be great if you bought very cheap laptop with decent cpu and it had broken screen and maybe keyboard ect but motherboard still worked fine then made or bought a cheap pc case to house it
Pretty impressive! I bought a mini PC as backup after crashing my main computer, now I can make a side project to transform it into a decent gaming backup.
Yea this gave me the idea to find or make an m.2 extender, and put a small hole in my bottom case, allowing the extender to slip through, and a second divot in the bottom to flushly seat the cable. With that i can swap between my dual boot and this set up (if i get a graphics card worth the same as my computer)
@@nomars4827 it would be dangerous to do so while it was on unless we modified how we use m.2 slots, having a variant for external connections, similar to usb ports
@@CholsreaRedstone I found out that there are such cases which work through Thunderbolt connection via USB-C. It also has same bandwidth of 4 PCIE lanes. You can also find a video where a guy connected GTX 4090 to usual laptop.
I just purchased a mini PC for the sole purpose of playing my game. I didn't want to destroy my laptop. It has the exact same specs as my laptop and is a pretty nice little unit for under $200. I have noticed some issues and was just telling my husband I wanted to find a way to do this! Thank you for making my research easy. This is perfect. ❤️
I'd love to see either a weaker or stronger GPU used in the same system. See if the bottleneck means there's little difference between say a 3060 and a 1050 Ti or a 3080.
Really really useful video! Thank you! I cannot wait for my mini PC and to make my DIY egpu with the ADT. That mini PC + eGPU setup is so gorgeous and minimalistic! So surprised at the performance out of such a small size factor. Love it.
Shame you didnt post this back in the days when you could buy a gpu! Still, future generations may use it if the world ever functions correctly again xD
Really impressed with the mini PC performance. I have a 3060 and in most of the GPU heavy games and benchmarks you are getting the 85%+ of the cards performance. For instance a graphics score of 10,000 in Timespy would be an amazing result for that card, so a 9070 is pretty damn impressive with that setup.
I kinda wish that they'd make these with an extra connector that is small and close to the m.2 side that you could easily cut a hole for, that way you could detach it and move the machine easily, whether laptop or mini pc. Though, it might be a problem if someone tried to hot-swap it.
This was my exact thought too. If someone is motivated, you could maybe cut the ribbon cable in half, and solder some ports to it, but without seeing it in person, IDK how plausible that is (or if you can get compact male/female connectors to support the necessary amount of wires)
Always make sure that your Powersupply provides enough juice to power the GPU. Not meeting wattage requirements can trip overcurrent protection or fry the PSU if it doesn't have working safety mechanisms.
Closer and closer to a future where I don't need to have two separate computers anymore. Just need this with a nice convenient/accessible way to plug it in.
@@_Digitalguy Yeah, if there is a thunderbolt dock that can supply power, ethernet, and eGPU that would be perfect for me. Currently already using a thunderbolt dock, but I've read that you can't plug an eGPU into the dock, because its just too much latency to the CPU
@@_Digitalguy No its a dock for power, ethernet, displayport, USB, etc. What I would like is to still have those features plus an eGPU, but currently its not possible I think.
@@dalethepalemale6855 It is possible. The Razer Core X Chroma has 100w power, 4 usb and ethernet. Display port is in the GPU itself, which sticks from the enclosure just like from a desktop (there are several, depending on the GPU, my 2070 super for instance has 3 + 1 HDMI)
It's bad out there, but not impossible. I get tips on inventory releases and managed to get a 3070 in my shopping cart, but didn't actually have the money, and had to abandon it (just wanted to see if the tip was accurate).
This is very cool. What's not cool is when you spend $1500 on a laptop with Nvidia, then Nvidia decides to make your non removable video card obsolete and not update the drivers anymore.
I was trying to do this with a Dell AIO a few years back. They had some kind of lock on the M.2 slot to only allow certain devices. While there were a LOT of customized firmwares out there to unlock various M.2's on lots of machines, they didn't have one for my particular machine. So the whole project was a "no-go". I did pick up an alienware graphics accelerator for ridiculously cheap that I wanted to gut out (just needed the shell since most are prohibitively expensive) to stick the adapter into...has been sitting in a box of forgotten projects ever since.
@@kurtrossgonzaga5084 No Clue. I know the Dell's have things pretty locked down so that only their expansion cards work in the slots. I wouldn't expect the bus speed to be very fast even if it did. Good luck!
"Dual purpose"?.... you mean dual GPU, like SLI/CrossFire. If so, I actually think running 2 identical adapters would work just fine, even adding an SLI bridge might work. Having an integrated adapter only makes sense if you want to combine 2 M.2's into a single x8 slot.
This makes me think of possible enclosures to fit this build into. A sandwich style SFF case like Ghost S1, but smaller than mini ITX only tall enough for these NUC-style boards. Like the NUC extreme but more custom.
Great stuff Prime, I've been following for just under a year. I would appreciate it if you would do an episode featuring the egpu dock from this episode with the beelink gt mini pc you featured in the past. I just got the i5 version with 16gb/512gb brand new for under $400. If you only have the ryzen model from the previous show that's cool, but the ultimate would be a head to head. I would watch that over and over again. Keep up the great work
Excellent video, I've been waiting for a setup just like this! I have a Dell Venue 11 Pro tablet with a passively-cooled 4.5W Core M. It would be interesting to see how it performs using an M.2 connected GPU. Thanks for the idea!
I already have this setup as a daily driver. Mini pc with i7 8750H from AliExpress, and this ADT Link also from AliExpress. Been running for about 4 months now. I7 8750H and rx 570 combo. Great for daily task and "light" gaming 😁👌
Awesome! You used the exact same ADT? i bought an intel based i9 mini pc and seller tells me this cannot be done. But then it is possible on intel based too?
@@steinbauge4591 same ADT, but different mini PC. Mine is older version which had 2 m.2 slot and 1 HDD slot but fewer usb slot and a weaker CPU. So I still can use nvme SSD and ADT link simultaneously. And yes, it's still working today !
@@ero-samairianto625 Great! Thanks for answering. Now my storage slots are SATA but there are setups for ordinary pcie mini ports. Only works with some 'moderate' gpu like GTX 1080.
@@ero-samairianto625 Thx again, this was useful input as the seller now informs me the 2 slots I have are NVME, 1 also supports SATA. Seems their techs just assumed egpu was not possible on this one (ofc an assumption that potentially loses them business)
there are ways to still use the gpu while routing the display through the onboard port/monitor sometimes. gonna take an fps or latency hit but it's been done before
Manufactors should plan a specific space on the laptop side to easily access a these free port for extension, like an opening with a removable plastic part. I know Intel can use Thunderbolt 3/4 but in the futur it might be awesome to directly access PCIe slot potentially higher than 4x.
@@feeblemonster8174 thanks! Never saw it before. Looks like a pciE + usb-c combo to have the GPU directly using pci-e and the I/O of the external case using usb-c. Quiet nice concept, hope the idea expand to other model /brand.
@@LetsListenToMus1k I now own a great gaming laptop that I plan to use for at least 7 years. I’m thinking of modding it in a way that would give me the option to quickly connect and disconnect a egpu to make it better in the future.
Yes they should just have an m2 port on the side of the laptop like you would with usb or thunderbolt. I don’t understand why that isn’t done, I mean thunderbolt has its uses for things besides egpu set ups so why not add a pcie 4.0 4x m2 slot on the side just for that? I don’t want to fiddle with my laptop to do this, it’s a hassle and I don’t want to have to remove an ssd if I have two in there. Simply give me a m2 port on the side. Also with this the internal gpu should be disconnected and that external m2 slot should be greater than 4x, that’s assuming the 4x limitation of m2 is from the cpu and not connector. If it’s the connector that’s fine but if not it should be greater than 4x.
TBH it's not a bad investment, If someone wants to build a Gaming PC but can't buy everything at once yet have the itch to play games, then This will work amazingly, I know this because this was me, I bought my GPU 2 months before the rest of my Rig 😆
This'll give a second life/purpose to a lot of units purchased as pandemic stopgap solutions. Anything that denies these silicon gangsters more revenue is golden in my book.
When u can utilize x16 that'll be the day...but for used laptops with shit mobile gpu like old sager laptops with gtx 770m or old-school crap like that this method is cool What's not cool? Gpu price shit circus show going on now...buy your tickets!
Hi prime, let's say I'm using more powerful gpu, rtx3080, can i use 2 of that 220w dell power adaptor on the m.2 external graphic dock? Or is it meant to be equipped with 1 dell power adaptor only?
Or you just pull that board from the laptop and put everything into a hand built case for a nice sleek package since it's not like people who do this will be removing the back plate to connect and disconnect just to take the laptop out of the house.
I knew about this thing 2 years ago from techtablets channel.previously using this with my mi notebook air+gtx1060. Now on my 3400g asrock a300. No issues.
Yes it is but you need to configure it properly for this, you lose 15-25% performance, it's very buggy, but I did it for a couple years, get the shortest cord you can find. I tried to edit the dsdt but ended up going with egpu software from nandeva0 on eBay. It was unstable at any temperature above 40c but I could run a lot more games than what my Intel integrated supported.
Question: So using a M.2 SATA connection, am I right? Is there a speed difference without that extra gap between the pins? I know PCIE NVME is significantly faster than M.2, right? -Is this .actually a PCIE NVME connector? So since you don't actually get 16 lanes via the PCIE NVME port what is the best graphics card to use? (Since the graphics cards all use 16x lanes, right?)
This eGPU dock uses an NVME M.2 connection. I have the dock myself and I'm using it with a 4th gen HP Prodesk 600, i5-8600T CPU. Paired it with a GTX 1650 and it runs like a charm really. In terms of which GPU you should use with this dock, it really comes down to the power supply you've got. If you went for the Dell DA-2 adapter to power the dock, your options are limited to any GPU that can draw up to 180 Watts. The RTX A2000 would be the most powerful low-profile GPU you can use with the dock.
A good power supply alternative could be Cooler Master MWE 550W FM 80+ Gold *MPY-5501-AFAAG-EU , which has all modular cables , so you can put only the required gpu cable on it
So i bought an mini pc beelink u59 that has an new intel processor, thanks again to your video i know it will run nice with egpu.. just waiting it arrives
@@TheSinnKidsOfficial but still… it’s literally a 14 inch thin-and-light laptop with an RTX card. it performs great for what it is. i owned the exact same model- you’re not gonna get better performance over M.2 with an external card, plus they’re incredibly expensive nowadays
Thanks for the indepth setup guide and the product links. In this way, these amd based mini PC's can be turned into a solid gaming rig. Would you please test it with some mini PC with desktop class apu like R7 4750GE or R5 4650GE? The performance should be Higher considering those CPUs have higher power limits.
It's perfect for a "mobile" GPU testing Laptop/Station. After half an hour in the oven (most of the time [GPU]), you can comfortable check if there'll be an output signal again. Now there could be something like an Ambulance for GPUs. With GPU Doctors on Board. 🚑🤭 But honostly I'm rly thinking about to get this Adapter for my own (I do own an old laptop, so it'll have a purpose for its existence again too). Since I've managed to get 5 GPUs back to life and the swap between my main pc card and the repaired one was the most annoying part. Thx for this video and giving me the idea. 💯 @ETAPrime 🤓❤️👑🙏🏻
I remember doing this in 2011 with a Sony Vaio Z... Amazing how nothing has significantly changed and implementation hasn't significantly improved in that time...
Two M.2 slots, such luxury! And x4, so much bandwidth!
Hey jeff , how is your project on rasp pi is going
Lol 🤣
Three ports, he says!
Keep up the great work, Jeff!
You have singlehandedly made me try to recompile a linux kernel.
...which got me thinking whether this dock be used with a computer that does NOT have a single M.2 port? In other words, for example - use an M.2 to USB 3.0 adapter to connect to the computer and the GPU etc as shown in this video. Or have I been watching too many Jeff Geerling videos 😃 Keep up the great work, guys? Perhaps you guys should consider doing a collab video on getting something like that to work in case there might not be a straightforward way to do that...
Pro tip with the laptop setup, they make HDMI dummy plugs (google it, you will find a bunch) that you can plug into the external GPU. It will trick the GPU into thinking it has a working monitor plugged in. With that set up, you go into display settings and set the GPU to have the same resolution as the laptop display then set the the laptop and GPU to duplicate each other with the GPU set as the primary display adapter. This way a game that loads wont even look at the integrated graphics and load on the correct GPU, but since the laptop display is duplicating whatever is showing on the external GPU you will see the game/desktop as though it was running on the internal GPU. Now you don't need the external monitor.
Thanks for sharing this tip :D really appreciate it
Bruh , ty
Yo! Thanks for the info 👍😁
Top flite info ty!
@@charmerabhi same here!
I think an interesting test would be to run benchmark tests on a normal PC between connecting a GPU through the PCIe slot and an M.2 X4 slot.
That would really tell us what the performance drop off of this setup is.
@DaKrawnik because most people that are watching this video aren't interested in doing this nor do they understand it.
why would you do that?
That's the reason i watched this video but unfortunately no comparison like this. The performance drop would be very interesting
It's very weird indeed that he didn't do that.
@@robertlee6338 lllll
So many forums say things like it's impossible to use an external GPU on a laptop or mini-PC because there's no interface or because PCIe x2 isn't enough. It's great to see this setup!
Thunderbolt 3 is how I connect my eGPU to my mini PC and my HP spectre laptop.
I think the method in this clip is still supposed to be faster though.
Alternate title: "Turn your laptop into a desktop"
😂
Actually i never use my laptop on my lap, so i cant complain. Also im using an exp gdc for my "lap"top
yip this would be great if you bought very cheap laptop with decent cpu and it had broken screen and maybe keyboard ect but motherboard still worked fine then made or bought a cheap pc case to house it
@@ETAPRIME is there a way to connect an ext.gpu to a smartphone somehow
@@AndroidFerret No, smartphones don't work like that : )
Pretty impressive! I bought a mini PC as backup after crashing my main computer, now I can make a side project to transform it into a decent gaming backup.
This... kinda makes me question why we don't see computers with external M.2 slots... that could be insanely useful.
Yea this gave me the idea to find or make an m.2 extender, and put a small hole in my bottom case, allowing the extender to slip through, and a second divot in the bottom to flushly seat the cable. With that i can swap between my dual boot and this set up (if i get a graphics card worth the same as my computer)
Maybe because it can be dangerous to plug and unplug m.2 on turned on notebook?
@@CholsreaRedstoneit would be interesting to see! If you'll do it post a video!
@@nomars4827 it would be dangerous to do so while it was on unless we modified how we use m.2 slots, having a variant for external connections, similar to usb ports
@@CholsreaRedstone I found out that there are such cases which work through Thunderbolt connection via USB-C. It also has same bandwidth of 4 PCIE lanes. You can also find a video where a guy connected GTX 4090 to usual laptop.
I just purchased a mini PC for the sole purpose of playing my game. I didn't want to destroy my laptop. It has the exact same specs as my laptop and is a pretty nice little unit for under $200. I have noticed some issues and was just telling my husband I wanted to find a way to do this! Thank you for making my research easy. This is perfect. ❤️
How much did your computer costed?and how much mini it is?
Man you're a life saver. I was worried when I saw that my newly purchased VivoBook flip didn't have a thunderbolt 3 type c.
MOOOORE
WE NEED MORE SUCH VIDEO.
M.2 NVMe eGPU is the future of Cheap External GPU solution
back in my day we use the wifi slot ... woah the future is now
Im using this about 2-3 years already. Follow tablettech
for the next maybe we can use ram slot....maybe
@@midiskykiller1794 bro pcie 4 is faster than ram. Even fastest ram ddr4 3200mhz is only 25.6gb/s meanwhile pcie is 32gb/s.
@@handcannon9814 oh i see......thank you for the information.
so its mean M.2 X4 slot is faster right than ram?
I'd love to see either a weaker or stronger GPU used in the same system. See if the bottleneck means there's little difference between say a 3060 and a 1050 Ti or a 3080.
1660 super isn't bottlenecked by it so 1660 super and 3060
I'm glad you mentioned to limit power to the GPU manually. You would have to do this with most new cards with a small 200W PSU.
But why have a small PSU? It's not the expensive part here anyway.
How do you limit the power to the gpu manually? I have a Intel NUC10 i7 windows 11 Pro. TIA
@@giancarlodeassis1839heavy undervolt with msi afterburner for example (for nvidia)
@@giancarlodeassis1839 no it doesn’t need to be limited as long as the psu is solid
I'd love to see this on that GameCube PC build!
his gamecube build already has thunderbolt 3, so he could just use an egpu enclosure.
@@chibilawl this would be a lot cheaper though.
This dock is awesome! I’m working on an enclosure for this now. Great video
Can you share a link? I'd love to see progress and for enclosures to become standard!
@@thethoughtfraud779 me too
Really really useful video! Thank you! I cannot wait for my mini PC and to make my DIY egpu with the ADT. That mini PC + eGPU setup is so gorgeous and minimalistic! So surprised at the performance out of such a small size factor. Love it.
Shame you didnt post this back in the days when you could buy a gpu!
Still, future generations may use it if the world ever functions correctly again xD
I wondered this, glad to see it's finally here. Also waiting for a USB 4 adapter for the M.2 slot.
I came here to comment the same or thunderbolt over usb-c.
Just Wow. ETA - You are always thinking outside the box, and always finding Awesome Technology Solutions, I love your Channel 👍😎👍
Yeah use something you can't get.... It's not new or viable in this climate.
@@patrickryan7829 - Ok Thank 🙄
@@PhillyCableDave it's more expensive than buying a better laptop.... For worse performance.
Really impressed with the mini PC performance. I have a 3060 and in most of the GPU heavy games and benchmarks you are getting the 85%+ of the cards performance. For instance a graphics score of 10,000 in Timespy would be an amazing result for that card, so a 9070 is pretty damn impressive with that setup.
I kinda wish that they'd make these with an extra connector that is small and close to the m.2 side that you could easily cut a hole for, that way you could detach it and move the machine easily, whether laptop or mini pc. Though, it might be a problem if someone tried to hot-swap it.
This was my exact thought too. If someone is motivated, you could maybe cut the ribbon cable in half, and solder some ports to it, but without seeing it in person, IDK how plausible that is (or if you can get compact male/female connectors to support the necessary amount of wires)
This could be the answer to my laptop gaming needs. It looks so simple to do even me who’s not very tech savvy could do it
Always make sure that your Powersupply provides enough juice to power the GPU. Not meeting wattage requirements can trip overcurrent protection or fry the PSU if it doesn't have working safety mechanisms.
He has plenty as long as he doesn't go into rtx 70 territory 200w should be fine
Thank you for this! I was actually thinking about how this could be accomplished this very morning!
Closer and closer to a future where I don't need to have two separate computers anymore. Just need this with a nice convenient/accessible way to plug it in.
the nice and convenient way is thunderbolt, this implies opening your laptop every time you need to plug in....
@@_Digitalguy Yeah, if there is a thunderbolt dock that can supply power, ethernet, and eGPU that would be perfect for me. Currently already using a thunderbolt dock, but I've read that you can't plug an eGPU into the dock, because its just too much latency to the CPU
@@dalethepalemale6855 but is it a dock specifically made for eGPUs?
@@_Digitalguy No its a dock for power, ethernet, displayport, USB, etc. What I would like is to still have those features plus an eGPU, but currently its not possible I think.
@@dalethepalemale6855 It is possible. The Razer Core X Chroma has 100w power, 4 usb and ethernet. Display port is in the GPU itself, which sticks from the enclosure just like from a desktop (there are several, depending on the GPU, my 2070 super for instance has 3 + 1 HDMI)
That's so cool!
Now all I need is finding a gpu!
😢
It's bad out there, but not impossible. I get tips on inventory releases and managed to get a 3070 in my shopping cart, but didn't actually have the money, and had to abandon it (just wanted to see if the tip was accurate).
Yessir! Yet another cool video!
Literally thought of my motile laptop when I saw this then noticed you was using one lol dope
This is very cool. What's not cool is when you spend $1500 on a laptop with Nvidia, then Nvidia decides to make your non removable video card obsolete and not update the drivers anymore.
That power supply yoi mentioned just solved a minig issue I was having over here ! Thanks a lo! Great channel btw
I was trying to do this with a Dell AIO a few years back. They had some kind of lock on the M.2 slot to only allow certain devices. While there were a LOT of customized firmwares out there to unlock various M.2's on lots of machines, they didn't have one for my particular machine. So the whole project was a "no-go". I did pick up an alienware graphics accelerator for ridiculously cheap that I wanted to gut out (just needed the shell since most are prohibitively expensive) to stick the adapter into...has been sitting in a box of forgotten projects ever since.
@@plutoniumshore i have aoi too that runs i5 11400 with american megatrenda mobo, do you think this will work?
@@kurtrossgonzaga5084 No Clue. I know the Dell's have things pretty locked down so that only their expansion cards work in the slots. I wouldn't expect the bus speed to be very fast even if it did. Good luck!
alternate title: turn your slow school laptop into a $5000 gaming PC
How bout a Dual M.2 to PCIe Adapter for dual purpose.
"Dual purpose"?.... you mean dual GPU, like SLI/CrossFire. If so, I actually think running 2 identical adapters would work just fine, even adding an SLI bridge might work. Having an integrated adapter only makes sense if you want to combine 2 M.2's into a single x8 slot.
Great vid. Concise, too the point and an easy how to explanation.👍
Very educational, & informative as well. You sir have a new subscriber. Keep up the great work..
Ooooooof, now I have a reason to buy a gpu. Thanks prime! I literally just bought this week's anbernic because of you. Hahah
This makes me think of possible enclosures to fit this build into. A sandwich style SFF case like Ghost S1, but smaller than mini ITX only tall enough for these NUC-style boards. Like the NUC extreme but more custom.
i installed an exp gdc beast on my old toshiba satellite i3 laptop and i am using it right now works perfectly fine, thanks for the video
Great stuff Prime, I've been following for just under a year. I would appreciate it if you would do an episode featuring the egpu dock from this episode with the beelink gt mini pc you featured in the past. I just got the i5 version with 16gb/512gb brand new for under $400. If you only have the ryzen model from the previous show that's cool, but the ultimate would be a head to head. I would watch that over and over again.
Keep up the great work
did you do this gpu for the beelink? just got one a couple of months back and this has me very curious!
@@tefoonez not yet, I'm thinking of using a 1650 super
@@brad7207 good luck buddy
This is absolutely ludicrous.
And I love it.
9:01 "Preparing automatic repair"
@@bland9876 he probably turned it off while it was running
@@bland9876 1. You start the PC, Windows is booting... 2. You turn it off while Windows is starting 3. Do this a few times 4. Enjoy automatic repair
@@bland9876 We are all just human beings
This would actually solve one of the primary issues with one of my theoretical shrunken builds. Finding a good m.2 adapter.
Excellent video, I've been waiting for a setup just like this! I have a Dell Venue 11 Pro tablet with a passively-cooled 4.5W Core M. It would be interesting to see how it performs using an M.2 connected GPU. Thanks for the idea!
core m is from an era without nvme
Even if you could make it work the cou is such a bottleneck i remember when I had one I had to make my own CPU headsink to maintain higher CPU clocks
Love that Standoff idea!!!!! Definitely going to use that..
I already have this setup as a daily driver. Mini pc with i7 8750H from AliExpress, and this ADT Link also from AliExpress.
Been running for about 4 months now. I7 8750H and rx 570 combo. Great for daily task and "light" gaming 😁👌
Awesome! You used the exact same ADT? i bought an intel based i9 mini pc and seller tells me this cannot be done. But then it is possible on intel based too?
@@steinbauge4591 same ADT, but different mini PC. Mine is older version which had 2 m.2 slot and 1 HDD slot but fewer usb slot and a weaker CPU.
So I still can use nvme SSD and ADT link simultaneously. And yes, it's still working today !
@@ero-samairianto625 Great! Thanks for answering. Now my storage slots are SATA but there are setups for ordinary pcie mini ports. Only works with some 'moderate' gpu like GTX 1080.
@@ero-samairianto625 Thx again, this was useful input as the seller now informs me the 2 slots I have are NVME, 1 also supports SATA. Seems their techs just assumed egpu was not possible on this one (ofc an assumption that potentially loses them business)
Nice!
This is a great way to have a highly portable gaming setup on the fly.
I just hoping to use the built in monitor for the laptop. Is it even possible?
there are ways to still use the gpu while routing the display through the onboard port/monitor sometimes. gonna take an fps or latency hit but it's been done before
Yes but it sends the video back over the same link so bandwidth can be an issue
am I able to do this with a graphics card instead?
Manufactors should plan a specific space on the laptop side to easily access a these free port for extension, like an opening with a removable plastic part.
I know Intel can use Thunderbolt 3/4 but in the futur it might be awesome to directly access PCIe slot potentially higher than 4x.
Check out Asus flow x15
@@feeblemonster8174 thanks! Never saw it before.
Looks like a pciE + usb-c combo to have the GPU directly using pci-e and the I/O of the external case using usb-c.
Quiet nice concept, hope the idea expand to other model /brand.
@@LetsListenToMus1k
I now own a great gaming laptop that I plan to use for at least 7 years. I’m thinking of modding it in a way that would give me the option to quickly connect and disconnect a egpu to make it better in the future.
Yes they should just have an m2 port on the side of the laptop like you would with usb or thunderbolt.
I don’t understand why that isn’t done, I mean thunderbolt has its uses for things besides egpu set ups so why not add a pcie 4.0 4x m2 slot on the side just for that? I don’t want to fiddle with my laptop to do this, it’s a hassle and I don’t want to have to remove an ssd if I have two in there.
Simply give me a m2 port on the side. Also with this the internal gpu should be disconnected and that external m2 slot should be greater than 4x, that’s assuming the 4x limitation of m2 is from the cpu and not connector. If it’s the connector that’s fine but if not it should be greater than 4x.
TBH it's not a bad investment,
If someone wants to build a Gaming PC but can't buy everything at once yet have the itch to play games, then
This will work amazingly,
I know this because this was me, I bought my GPU 2 months before the rest of my Rig 😆
This'll give a second life/purpose to a lot of units purchased as pandemic stopgap solutions.
Anything that denies these silicon gangsters more revenue is golden in my book.
What would be nice, is that laptop manufacturers offered external M.2 slot plug-ins on the side of their units
Awesome video!
*How does this compare to using an eGPU over thunderbolt 3?*
I have an Intel NUC connected to a 5700xt in a razor core x chroma
WOW! ✋😮 It was very technical and practical. ✋😌 Thank you.🌷
Now I just need to find a graphics card in stock.
The 3060 lined up perfectly with the dock
Nice, i love these EGPU solutions. Would there be a difference with thunderbolt, or is the M.2 x4 just as good?
When u can utilize x16 that'll be the day...but for used laptops with shit mobile gpu like old sager laptops with gtx 770m or old-school crap like that this method is cool
What's not cool?
Gpu price shit circus show going on now...buy your tickets!
your GPU has a nice laptop
Hi prime, let's say I'm using more powerful gpu, rtx3080, can i use 2 of that 220w dell power adaptor on the m.2 external graphic dock? Or is it meant to be equipped with 1 dell power adaptor only?
Not supported AND 2X isn't enough power even if it was
One only, I would personally just pick up a cheap 400 watt ATX PSU
Ok will do and thanks for the reply.
It's definitely a clunky setup right now, but with this functionality in M.2, hopefully ease-of-use improvements are a few iterations away.
I hope they will make m.2 slot like an SD card slot.
Or you just pull that board from the laptop and put everything into a hand built case for a nice sleek package since it's not like people who do this will be removing the back plate to connect and disconnect just to take the laptop out of the house.
with a 50 cm cable you could get it off the desktop (its an option for the ADT set)
That is really crazy tho. A mini PC doing that. Building an enclosure around the GPU, that would look so cool.
It would be interesting to experiment and see how low you have to go with the GPU before the PCI 4 slot wasn’t to bottleneck?
Yes
I knew about this thing 2 years ago from techtablets channel.previously using this with my mi notebook air+gtx1060. Now on my 3400g asrock a300. No issues.
They need to make one of these as a gaming box with intergrade psu. just to keep it all neat in one package. Maybe a flex psu to keep down the size.
very helpful in my oppinion for mini PC Upgrades!
Is it possible to use the laptop display or it can only work with a monitor plugged directly to the gpu?
Yes it is but you need to configure it properly for this, you lose 15-25% performance, it's very buggy, but I did it for a couple years, get the shortest cord you can find. I tried to edit the dsdt but ended up going with egpu software from nandeva0 on eBay. It was unstable at any temperature above 40c but I could run a lot more games than what my Intel integrated supported.
Had to grab one of these! Thanks for the vid!
You miss a very importend Information it only work with M.2 NVME Slot an not M.2 SATA Port, I think you the normal user this information is helpful.
Yeah too many people use the word M2 and don't realize that some people don't know that M2 can also be SATA
Not practical, but absolutely love it!! 100/10!
It takes around 30 - 50 seconds to unplug it again on my laptop, around 1 minute to 1:30 plug it back on.
lol
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Question: So using a M.2 SATA connection, am I right? Is there a speed difference without that extra gap between the pins? I know PCIE NVME is significantly faster than M.2, right? -Is this .actually a PCIE NVME connector? So since you don't actually get 16 lanes via the PCIE NVME port what is the best graphics card to use? (Since the graphics cards all use 16x lanes, right?)
This eGPU dock uses an NVME M.2 connection. I have the dock myself and I'm using it with a 4th gen HP Prodesk 600, i5-8600T CPU. Paired it with a GTX 1650 and it runs like a charm really.
In terms of which GPU you should use with this dock, it really comes down to the power supply you've got. If you went for the Dell DA-2 adapter to power the dock, your options are limited to any GPU that can draw up to 180 Watts. The RTX A2000 would be the most powerful low-profile GPU you can use with the dock.
Dremel.
You can just cut a slot in the bottom cover panel of a laptop, nearly the size of a cooling vent slit.
the issue is that if you carry your laptop around a hole big enough to conveniently plug this is is going to leave part of the internals exposed
@@_Digitalguy Seems like a good idea to 3d print a custom dust cover for that hole.
A good power supply alternative could be Cooler Master MWE 550W FM 80+ Gold *MPY-5501-AFAAG-EU , which has all modular cables , so you can put only the required gpu cable on it
How much watts it can supply?
Wait you guys have graphics cards?
😂
Once around the campfire my grandfather remarked of how he once saw such a thing.
I remain unconvinced
alternate title: turn your “lap”top more non-portable and make it a “desk”top
i tried it and it doesn’t work
you definitely messed something up then
Great video! The Golden standard would be a DIY homemade thunderbolt solution but this is still awesome and has greater compatibility.
What is the GPU performance difference between using the "M.2" slot and directly connecting to "PCIe" slot on the Motherboard on a normal PC?
Usually the M.2 slot is more limited in bandwidth which can prevent the GPU from reaching full performance.
@@ants288 well back in the day this solution much more limited bandwidth because it only have mSATA version 5Gb/s slot
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please do this with the chiwi larkbox really would be interesting :)
larkbox use sata
That's a nice workaround to put an eGPU, seems more portable.
Would be funny if you could use it on sbc/pi. Too bad we can't, at least not yet.
A hat to add m.2 to the pi seems to exist.
Btw if anyone is interested, Jeff geerling did a video about this very thing a few days ago.
@@bland9876 ayyy you have the same name as me
Dude, you always come up with the best alternatives out there, especially during this time when hardware is hard to get.
u still need a gpu
@@scudsturm1 lol I have a spare hd4650 dont know if it's worth it tho lol
@@scudsturm1 No you don't There are lots of good videos posted recently about gaming without a GPU. Dig deeper.
Test it with Ubuntu, please.
Wow this is awesome!! Thanks ETA
That's cool! Now I can put all these gpus laying around into use.... :((((((
So i bought an mini pc beelink u59 that has an new intel processor, thanks again to your video i know it will run nice with egpu.. just waiting it arrives
*me who bought a asus g14 that only had one m.2 slot*: well isn't that lovely
i mean the g14 already has a dedicated GPU so this would be pointless
@@funknugget6334 yeah but it isn't that good, I have the rtx 2060 model, and it has the power of like a 1650
@@TheSinnKidsOfficial but still… it’s literally a 14 inch thin-and-light laptop with an RTX card. it performs great for what it is. i owned the exact same model- you’re not gonna get better performance over M.2 with an external card, plus they’re incredibly expensive nowadays
I had no idea that device existed. It's amazing..
Thanks for the indepth setup guide and the product links. In this way, these amd based mini PC's can be turned into a solid gaming rig. Would you please test it with some mini PC with desktop class apu like R7 4750GE or R5 4650GE? The performance should be Higher considering those CPUs have higher power limits.
I love the fact that you are always looking into do some nice connections, with anything possible!!! I like that. Many blessings bru!!!
Is there m.2 splitter due to single slot on a laptop
Please a video on chrome os in virtual box and your content and information is great and the way you explain i love it
Want to do some gaming with your laptop on the airplane? Hope you bought two tickets! :)
It's perfect for a "mobile" GPU testing Laptop/Station.
After half an hour in the oven (most of the time [GPU]), you can comfortable check if there'll be an output signal again.
Now there could be something like an Ambulance for GPUs. With GPU Doctors on Board. 🚑🤭
But honostly I'm rly thinking about to get this Adapter for my own (I do own an old laptop, so it'll have a purpose for its existence again too).
Since I've managed to get 5 GPUs back to life and the swap between my main pc card and the repaired one was the most annoying part.
Thx for this video and giving me the idea. 💯 @ETAPrime 🤓❤️👑🙏🏻
Fantastic, an external GPU might work well with my slim Dell desktop too.
Very good! You save thousend of my money! Thanks a lot.
I remember doing this in 2011 with a Sony Vaio Z... Amazing how nothing has significantly changed and implementation hasn't significantly improved in that time...
Very cool stuff 👍
amazing never thought of this