I'm not much of a fan of Harry Potter fan tbh, but knowing Olton Hall's rise to fame, I now have another level of appreciation for the lengths directors will go for authenticity. P.S. In regards to the train toys, I'm amazed Lego hasn't jumped on the opportunity of making Polar Express set yet, but have made several Hogwarts Express sets.
LEGO has made so much from Harry Potter. It's not surprising they press on that so hard. Polar Express is a wonderful story, but it's not the franchise that Harry Potter is.
@History in the Dark True, but it's wasted opportunity to not have a Polar Express set become available after Thanksgiving. P.S. It'd be another Lego Train to add to my collection lol
Trainboy covered the history of the locomotive and I remember seeing this comment on the video. So apparently in the Harry Potter universe, the loco was being built at Crewe in 1838 when the wizards and witches came, said "Bippity Boppity, this engine is our property," and erased every workman's experience of building the locomotive
I really want this to be canon in some future Harry Potter movie or show, and for "Bippity boppity, this engine is our property" to be the actual spell.
Well for the game you could say its the very first Hogwarts Express before being replaced by the Hall class as the locomotives design does date back to the Bulldog Class they were built around 1899 to 1910 and the Duke class before that
5972 once designed and used as a blue collar workhorse of GWR and later BR became a moviestar. Lets face it 5972 alter ego Hogwarts express and red livery fits here very well! She even has a (still not funcyional) sister standing in for here in Japan. Not to mention the replicas at theme parks and 1:87 models beloved and cherised in lots of families. And yes some mockery here fame but in here core she is still that blue collar workhorse!
That's Dumbleton Hall in Japan. She was awaiting overhaul in 2015 but instead had a cosmetic restoration to resemble Hogwarts Castle and shipped to Harry Potter World in Japan.
The GWR did very well just with 4-6-0s rather than Pacifics into nationalisation because of the quality of the high quality Welsh coal they had available to them which meant they could achieve required speed and power without the larger firebox a 4-6-2 enables
(In the Harry Potter theme) There once was a train named Olton, Who was destined to be a star, And so she was lease by Warner Brothers, Who made her pull red railcars
And meanwhile Hogwarts Red (it is brighter than LMS and BR maroon, annoyingly mismatching the BR maroon coaches) is the most authentic livery for this locomotive. She has worn it longer in service than any of her GWR and BR liveries.
I think you should cover the story of the Cavan and Leitrim Railway Lady Edith locomotive and how it was saved, brought to the USA, and how it’s time on the Pine Creek Railroad.
Irony of ironies,is that a GWR engine gets painted MR[MIDLAND RAILWAY]RED! The LMS,got Sir William Stainer from the GWR,and that's where the Black 5's,Jubilees,and other classes got that distinct GWR look! The BR, Standard Classes also carried that forward! If Churchward had produced a heavy Pacific,it probably would have been like the Class 8,"Duke of Glouster"! And don't forget,the GWR,was influenced by the PRR,as was the NER[Wilson Worsdell,was apprenticed at Altoona]so there is quite a bit of crossover! Thank you for your attention and time! Thank you 😇!
Hey, Darkness, I have an idea, bud. How about - 5 unsuccessful engines that everybody loved? Can't really think of one off the top of my head (British Rail Class 306 Shenfield units, perhaps?), but everyone either feels a bit sorry for them, as they are nearly right, or they are sneakingly regarded for what they can do, despite being not quite right.
I love this engine, and although I know her well for her Red Livery, I would like it if her owners would eventually retore her Great Western Green Livery.
I am not a Harry Potter fan at all but one of my favorite GWR classes besides Pannier Tanks and Castle classes are the Hall classes mainly because I mean my favorite wheel configuration's are 0-6-0 and 2-10-0 so it works out for me and also the only lego set I currently own is of the Hogwarts Express which I keep on display on a shelf.
The Great Western ran out of Hall names from within their area to name the locomotives after, so they looked further afield. There is also the preserved 6998 Burton Agnes Hall (which was actually built by BR), and the actual hall is magnificent, and also in (East) Yorkshire.
@CaseyJonesNumber1 I spent a very hot day at Burton Agnes Hall in the mid 70's. A neighbour was in the Sealed Knot and performing there. My parents decided we were going along. As I was only a small child, my only real memory was of being terribly hot and thirsty and hating every minute.
Though the whistle of Sierra Railroad No.3 was in the Polar Express which was a Lima step top 5 chime that is common on shays. I would think that the Japanese 8620 class would beat Olton Hall because of Kimetsu no Yaiba (Demon Slayer) which beaten the record that the 1997 movie Titanic had for the highest Gross Income.
now Im curios, since in the Harry Potter universe there seems to be wizards and witches all around the world. In Spain would the express be pulled by Spanish steam locomotives and if so, would it be the Class 240f ( 4-8-0), the renfe 151 (2-10-2), the more mass produced Renfe 141 (2-8-2), or the rather good looking Renfe 242f (4-8-4). Just as a side note before anyone ask or says that it would be another nations locomotives and not a Spanish one, the Spanish railways use a 5ft 6( technically it is 5 ft 5+21⁄32 in, but it is jusy simpler to round up the number, not to mention that they are dam near similar. ) or the Iberian gauge as it is known, rather than the standard gauge that most other nations use, so if a train is running of Spanish railway line it has to be from Spain or of the same gauge.
@@robertwilloughby8050 Honestly I didn’t even know about them till you mentioned them, mostly cause when looking at early 20th century 8 drive wheel Spanish locomotives, most sources go to the 140 class since they built them during the 1900s and 1910s ( I think in 1911 ish they built 120 of them). But I am surprised about the locos you said ( mostly cause they look really nice and modern ish for the time, considering other locos in Europe at the time). I am also surprised to find someone else who knows quite a bit about Spanish locos, since most people think that Spain never made any or if they did they were just shit compared to the rest of Europe or the world, so I already like you for knowing about these. Also as a side note, in Spain or in Spanish railways, they don’t address locomotives classes by their full wheel arrangement, but rather the amount you see on just one side ( example the Norte locomotives you said would not be addressed as “ Norte 4-8-2 class locomotives”, rather they would address it as “ Norte 241 class locomotive”. The way you addressed them as is not wrong, as they are still 4-8-2 locomotives, it jut that Spain just decided to use this king of system and stuck with it. That and not many people realise where the class number designation is based on. (PS: if you have discord or know about a channel that talks about locomotives of all nations ( including Spain), send me a link of you can cause I wouldn’t mind having a chat and meet other people who know about this kind of stuff)
I love this version of the Hogwarts Express, but the fact it's pulled by a GWR Hall class has irked me for a while. They never went to Scotland, and they didn't exist when the Express was established in 1830. There's all kinds of errors like that littering the timeline of the Express. In my mind, she's an LMS Jubilee. Fits a bit better as those did go to Scotland. And Wizards could have transfigured her into newer types of locomotive over the years, explaining how she would look fairly modern for a steam engine but still have been built in the 1830's.
Though Sierra Railroad No.3 is a bigger movie star than Olton Hall. Even the Virginia & Truckee 11 Reno and 12 Genoa was also a movie stars as well. The whistle in the Polar Express is the No.3's whistle.
I like Olton Hall, but only cos she annoys the GWR purists in her HR guise 😂🤣 In a more personal recollection: I moved to York in July 2014 and was looking forward to a summer of photographing mainline steam railtours passing through. However the week before I moved she was involved in an incident, setting fire to the tinder dry countryside, that got all steam tours banned - for months! 🙄 As an aside, I know the guy who designed the iconic headboard she wears in the films....
Olton Hall is one of the few things I still care about when it comes to the Wizarding World franchise. That lady’s rabid followers have caused me enough trouble.
14:56 honorable mention about the hogwarts legacy version of the train even tho I never played it: The proportions of the model is not even accurate. The locomotive is too short ,the boiler is too small ,the cab and running board are way too wide ,the bufferbeam is too large ,the steam pipes that go down to the pistons from the smoke-box aren't angled correctly ,too much stripes on the tender ,the wheels are too thin ,and the track of them or gauge is too wide (I also think the wheels on the side profile might be too far apart from eachother). The coaches are also inaccurate. Way to large ,The sides are too flat ,the tender hogwarts railway logo has been copy pasted 4 times ,and the arrangement of the windows or doors isn't even correct. There is just alot of Inaccuracies with it.
Yes, a lot of movies now use CG effects to create train scenes... and I have yet to see any that look convincingly real. Many look downright atrocious, in fact, with the smoke and steam effects being the least convincing elements. Thanks are due to Chris Columbus for not compromising on quality, and for making a good choice for his locomotive "star"! And thanks Darkness for another great video!
To be honest, this is the only thing i care about in Harry Potter😂 The GWR Hall class is one of the most beautiful steam locomotives ever built in my opinion. I remember, as a child, a friend and i went to the cinema to see Harry Potter, and i dont really care for magic and things, and after that i was asked about my opinion about the film, and i was talking endless about that beautiful steam locomotive. That friend was a little pissed of. "You know there was something other in that film beside this stupid train???" "Oh yeah there was this guy with the stupid glasses..."
I can't wait for the Warner bros lease on this engine to expire, then the engine will can finally go back to being a GWR engine again, painted green again and working like a real engine should. The fact that it has survived nearly 41 years through preservation and yet has been known as Hogwarts express for around 20 years I think is very sad. Now that Harry Potter is finally over, the engine should be back to what it was before the films. I even find it confusing as to why they didn't choose a Black Five or a LNS Jubilee class since they were the sort of engines that did work in Scotland. A GWR Hall? That's just silly.
As a kid growing up on the U.S west coast I actually knew about the gwr but I thought that it was just made up to be the home of duck from Thomas the tank engine.
My mom doesn't think Kings Cross is a real station, and every time we watch Harry Potter, she points out how Kings Cross isn't real and blah blah blah, and I get on to her and say "kings cross is a real station, it's in London, it's the big station of London..."
King's Cross station is just ONE of the big stations in London, and it's certainly not the biggest of the big stations. Waterloo is the biggest, and also the busiest.
I know it's a film but the inaccuracy of having a GWR loco running from London King's Cross (LNER) is too annoying for me every time I watch the films. Lol
Have you ever thought about making a video about the Great Central Railway?, one of our biggest pieces of infrastructure that was just thrown away almost in its entirety
Oh boy a loco built in the 30’s in a game set in 1880… What are the chances? Perhaps they’ll update the design of the engine in Hogwarts legacy to match the engine who pulled the express before 8572. Perhaps a Duke or a bulldog… Then again, Pottermore reckons that the Hogwarts express has only one engine pulling it throughout history (to my knowledge) perhaps they got the original Hogwarts express loco rebuilt by “Magic” later on… Or, they somehow brought Olten Hall back in time to 1880… but that can’t exactly work as time turners came only take people back in time, not steam engines
A 19th Century locomotive such the 1846-1900 Furness Railway number 3 “ Old Coppernob “ with period accurate passenger equipment would be a better option than the 1930’s Era Olton Hall would be ! For the 1800’s Era Hogwarts Legacy game that is !
Yes . And a big part of so many US Wild West films was the Livery Stable for horses. Correctly pronounced in all the films that were popular from the thirties to sixties at least.
Fun fact the wizards stole the Hogwarts express in 1890 Date might be wrong but I saw it in a super Carlin brothers video Edit: it was the late 1820s and here's a video the talks about it ua-cam.com/video/KCiIFbXiAHA/v-deo.html Here's the Super Carlin Brothers video: ua-cam.com/video/rUPrY42nBPg/v-deo.html
The franchise film should of end after deathly hollows part 2. even before crimes of release the films we’re suffering decent declines box office wise compared to the original sorcerer stone in total box of grosses in there original theatrical returns as early as the first sequel chamber of secrets up till the heavily butchered half blood prince was released. Only deathly hollows 1 and 2 indivual surpasses the insane duchess that the original films releases. Though the films did suffering decent production hell delays as early as getting the first film adaptation done.
The nameplate on the smokebox says Hogwarts Express,that's just what I'm goin by,plus the fact that Hogwarts Castle is never mentioned in the books in relation to the train.
@@tomcline5631 The loco name appears on the name plate above the driving wheels and is indeed "Hogwarts Castle" as seen at Warner Bros., the head board on the smoke box carries the name of the train.
I'm sorry but nowhere in the 7 books and 8 movies is the Hogwarts Castle on the train or mentioned in relation to the train. All the nameplates in the movies say "Hogwarts Express". In the entire franchise, Hogwarts Castle is the physical building,never applied to the train. Look it up. I've read the books about 35 times and watched the movies at least a dozen each. Sorry,I'm a 50 year old nerd.
@@tomcline5631 UA-cam ate my reply, here goes again.... You clearly don't understand the difference between a train service name and a loco name. For example, the famous non-stop London to Edinburgh train service know as "The Flying Scotsman" has historically been hauled by hundreds of different locos including steam, diesel and electric all bearing their own individual names. It just so happens that one loco was also named "Flying Scotsman" (LNER Class A3 No.4472) Yes, the Hogwarts loco name was never specifically mentioned in the books, and in the movies, as far as I know, there was never a close-up scene showing the actual loco name. However, there are numerous videos and photos all over the internet showing the loco name as "Hogwarts Castle" and you can view the original still (I believe) at Warner Bros. I saw it there myself about 4 years ago with my daughter.
Watford if pronounced "Wotford". It''s an easy mistake to trip over, but do try to check the pronunciation of English place-names - even the most innocent-looking ones can harbour pitfalls fore the unwary. And ... Woodham is pronounced "Woodum".
That was the oddest pronouncing of Watford I have ever heard, I had listen to that twice to get that.... Whatford is how it sounds when spoken over here in England
And so we have a GWR locomotive in an LMS livery, leaving from an LNER terminus- makes perfect sense
I'm not much of a fan of Harry Potter fan tbh, but knowing Olton Hall's rise to fame, I now have another level of appreciation for the lengths directors will go for authenticity. P.S. In regards to the train toys, I'm amazed Lego hasn't jumped on the opportunity of making Polar Express set yet, but have made several Hogwarts Express sets.
LEGO has made so much from Harry Potter. It's not surprising they press on that so hard. Polar Express is a wonderful story, but it's not the franchise that Harry Potter is.
@History in the Dark True, but it's wasted opportunity to not have a Polar Express set become available after Thanksgiving. P.S. It'd be another Lego Train to add to my collection lol
Same i hate harry Potter
@Kurdt Cobain I don't hate it, but it's not my interest, Lego Harry Potter is the exception lol
@@DrRacer78 lmao
Trainboy covered the history of the locomotive and I remember seeing this comment on the video. So apparently in the Harry Potter universe, the loco was being built at Crewe in 1838 when the wizards and witches came, said "Bippity Boppity, this engine is our property," and erased every workman's experience of building the locomotive
I really want this to be canon in some future Harry Potter movie or show, and for "Bippity boppity, this engine is our property" to be the actual spell.
I wonder if this guy met Henry after he had his accident
Your a british rail employee harry
Harry was fined £50 for not providing a valid ticket and ejected from the train at gatwick platform 2.
I'm a what
A British rail employee
Noooooooooooooooooo!
@@NewEnglandFoamer No I'm not I'm just Harry
I absolutely love how invest you are in these (To the non-train obsessed people) niche videos and topics.
Keep being awesome.
Well for the game you could say its the very first Hogwarts Express before being replaced by the Hall class as the locomotives design does date back to the Bulldog Class they were built around 1899 to 1910 and the Duke class before that
5972 once designed and used as a blue collar workhorse of GWR and later BR became a moviestar.
Lets face it 5972 alter ego Hogwarts express and red livery fits here very well!
She even has a (still not funcyional) sister standing in for here in Japan.
Not to mention the replicas at theme parks and 1:87 models beloved and cherised in lots of families.
And yes some mockery here fame but in here core she is still that blue collar workhorse!
That's Dumbleton Hall in Japan. She was awaiting overhaul in 2015 but instead had a cosmetic restoration to resemble Hogwarts Castle and shipped to Harry Potter World in Japan.
The GWR did very well just with 4-6-0s rather than Pacifics into nationalisation because of the quality of the high quality Welsh coal they had available to them which meant they could achieve required speed and power without the larger firebox a 4-6-2 enables
Good video history in the dark
It brings a smile to my face that an American is so knowledgeable and enthusiastic about British steam locomotives
I saw the other GWR Hall class engine back in 2019. I am shocked that she's been dressed up as her sister and exported out of the UK
(In the Harry Potter theme)
There once was a train named Olton,
Who was destined to be a star,
And so she was lease by Warner Brothers,
Who made her pull red railcars
And meanwhile Hogwarts Red (it is brighter than LMS and BR maroon, annoyingly mismatching the BR maroon coaches) is the most authentic livery for this locomotive. She has worn it longer in service than any of her GWR and BR liveries.
I love this channel! Please keep up the good work I admire the positive energy you have!
this channel kicks ass seriously thank you for your content
I just have to say that I’m real sad that the LB&SCR E2 tank engine never had the chance to enjoy a similar fate as the Hall class steam engine
I live in Horbury, sadly the Works are long gone (converted or demolished), but there's still a lot of freight around.
I think you should cover the story of the Cavan and Leitrim Railway Lady Edith locomotive and how it was saved, brought to the USA, and how it’s time on the Pine Creek Railroad.
Irony of ironies,is that a GWR engine gets painted MR[MIDLAND RAILWAY]RED! The LMS,got Sir William Stainer from the GWR,and that's where the Black 5's,Jubilees,and other classes got that distinct GWR look! The BR, Standard Classes also carried that forward! If Churchward had produced a heavy Pacific,it probably would have been like the Class 8,"Duke of Glouster"! And don't forget,the GWR,was influenced by the PRR,as was the NER[Wilson Worsdell,was apprenticed at Altoona]so there is quite a bit of crossover! Thank you for your attention and time! Thank you 😇!
Oh this one I’m really looking forward to 😊
Hey, Darkness, I have an idea, bud. How about - 5 unsuccessful engines that everybody loved? Can't really think of one off the top of my head (British Rail Class 306 Shenfield units, perhaps?), but everyone either feels a bit sorry for them, as they are nearly right, or they are sneakingly regarded for what they can do, despite being not quite right.
I love this engine, and although I know her well for her Red Livery, I would like it if her owners would eventually retore her Great Western Green Livery.
The Erie Railroad is the favorite Railroad of the Slytherin’s !
Professor Severus Snape and Uncle Daniel Drew are some what similar in appearance !
I am not a Harry Potter fan at all but one of my favorite GWR classes besides Pannier Tanks and Castle classes are the Hall classes mainly because I mean my favorite wheel configuration's are 0-6-0 and 2-10-0 so it works out for me and also the only lego set I currently own is of the Hogwarts Express which I keep on display on a shelf.
I’ve a model of Olton Hall and the Hogwarts Express.
There's a joke in here about this Hall Class identifying as a Castle Class to JK Rowling's chagrin, but It's not coming to me at the moment.
you can even go further back and talk about the prototype of the class "transitioning" to a Hall class if you want to stretch the analogy
@@MercenaryPen Fair point.
Interesting how one of the hall class engines was bought and preserved as a static display in universal studios japan.
My local Hall is Farnley Hall just outside Otley, Yorkshire. A locomotive was named after Farnley Hall: it's a long way from the GWR region.
The Great Western ran out of Hall names from within their area to name the locomotives after, so they looked further afield. There is also the preserved 6998 Burton Agnes Hall (which was actually built by BR), and the actual hall is magnificent, and also in (East) Yorkshire.
@CaseyJonesNumber1 I spent a very hot day at Burton Agnes Hall in the mid 70's. A neighbour was in the Sealed Knot and performing there. My parents decided we were going along. As I was only a small child, my only real memory was of being terribly hot and thirsty and hating every minute.
Olton Hall is the British equivalent of Pere Marquette 1225-The Locomotive used for The Polar Express.
Though the whistle of Sierra Railroad No.3 was in the Polar Express which was a Lima step top 5 chime that is common on shays. I would think that the Japanese 8620 class would beat Olton Hall because of Kimetsu no Yaiba (Demon Slayer) which beaten the record that the 1997 movie Titanic had for the highest Gross Income.
Man I wish WB would have Olton visit the US and meet up with another express locomotive from their movies.
now Im curios, since in the Harry Potter universe there seems to be wizards and witches all around the world. In Spain would the express be pulled by Spanish steam locomotives and if so, would it be the Class 240f ( 4-8-0), the renfe 151 (2-10-2), the more mass produced Renfe 141 (2-8-2), or the rather good looking Renfe 242f (4-8-4).
Just as a side note before anyone ask or says that it would be another nations locomotives and not a Spanish one, the Spanish railways use a 5ft 6( technically it is 5 ft 5+21⁄32 in, but it is jusy simpler to round up the number, not to mention that they are dam near similar. ) or the Iberian gauge as it is known, rather than the standard gauge that most other nations use, so if a train is running of Spanish railway line it has to be from Spain or of the same gauge.
What about the Norte 4-8-2's? They did last a long time..... as did the MZA 4-8-2's!
@@robertwilloughby8050 Honestly I didn’t even know about them till you mentioned them, mostly cause when looking at early 20th century 8 drive wheel Spanish locomotives, most sources go to the 140 class since they built them during the 1900s and 1910s ( I think in 1911 ish they built 120 of them).
But I am surprised about the locos you said ( mostly cause they look really nice and modern ish for the time, considering other locos in Europe at the time).
I am also surprised to find someone else who knows quite a bit about Spanish locos, since most people think that Spain never made any or if they did they were just shit compared to the rest of Europe or the world, so I already like you for knowing about these.
Also as a side note, in Spain or in Spanish railways, they don’t address locomotives classes by their full wheel arrangement, but rather the amount you see on just one side ( example the Norte locomotives you said would not be addressed as “ Norte 4-8-2 class locomotives”, rather they would address it as “ Norte 241 class locomotive”. The way you addressed them as is not wrong, as they are still 4-8-2 locomotives, it jut that Spain just decided to use this king of system and stuck with it. That and not many people realise where the class number designation is based on.
(PS: if you have discord or know about a channel that talks about locomotives of all nations ( including Spain), send me a link of you can cause I wouldn’t mind having a chat and meet other people who know about this kind of stuff)
It should have been a broad guage locomotive as in 1830's when the engine was so called “lend” GWR just started with broad guage engines.
I love this version of the Hogwarts Express, but the fact it's pulled by a GWR Hall class has irked me for a while. They never went to Scotland, and they didn't exist when the Express was established in 1830. There's all kinds of errors like that littering the timeline of the Express.
In my mind, she's an LMS Jubilee. Fits a bit better as those did go to Scotland. And Wizards could have transfigured her into newer types of locomotive over the years, explaining how she would look fairly modern for a steam engine but still have been built in the 1830's.
Hey can you do a video about Sierra Railway 3
Though Sierra Railroad No.3 is a bigger movie star than Olton Hall. Even the Virginia & Truckee 11 Reno and 12 Genoa was also a movie stars as well. The whistle in the Polar Express is the No.3's whistle.
I’ve heard that it was put on display because its boiler ticket expired.
I'd like to see you do Pere Marquette 1225, the real Polar Express.
Rail fans were expected the last Hall to be call after Tatts.
Do a 5 locomotives that where in a movie
A Dumbledore is a Bumblebee.
Love that the BR meme made it into the video!
I like Olton Hall, but only cos she annoys the GWR purists in her HR guise 😂🤣
In a more personal recollection: I moved to York in July 2014 and was looking forward to a summer of photographing mainline steam railtours passing through. However the week before I moved she was involved in an incident, setting fire to the tinder dry countryside, that got all steam tours banned - for months! 🙄
As an aside, I know the guy who designed the iconic headboard she wears in the films....
Wonder whatever came of the locomotive that was used in the Queen music video for breakthru?
Olton Hall is one of the few things I still care about when it comes to the Wizarding World franchise.
That lady’s rabid followers have caused me enough trouble.
The historical inconsistency can be written off as the dev's just being...
'Trainsphobic'
14:56 honorable mention about the hogwarts legacy version of the train even tho I never played it: The proportions of the model is not even accurate.
The locomotive is too short ,the boiler is too small ,the cab and running board are way too wide ,the bufferbeam is too large ,the steam pipes that go down to the pistons from the smoke-box aren't angled correctly ,too much stripes on the tender ,the wheels are too thin ,and the track of them or gauge is too wide (I also think the wheels on the side profile might be too far apart from eachother).
The coaches are also inaccurate. Way to large ,The sides are too flat ,the tender hogwarts railway logo has been copy pasted 4 times ,and the arrangement of the windows or doors isn't even correct.
There is just alot of Inaccuracies with it.
Yes, a lot of movies now use CG effects to create train scenes... and I have yet to see any that look convincingly real. Many look downright atrocious, in fact, with the smoke and steam effects being the least convincing elements. Thanks are due to Chris Columbus for not compromising on quality, and for making a good choice for his locomotive "star"! And thanks Darkness for another great video!
To be honest, this is the only thing i care about in Harry Potter😂 The GWR Hall class is one of the most beautiful steam locomotives ever built in my opinion. I remember, as a child, a friend and i went to the cinema to see Harry Potter, and i dont really care for magic and things, and after that i was asked about my opinion about the film, and i was talking endless about that beautiful steam locomotive. That friend was a little pissed of. "You know there was something other in that film beside this stupid train???" "Oh yeah there was this guy with the stupid glasses..."
The 1899 inaccuracies could be explained with a time turner
What month did Olton Hall got restored to operational status. I was born in 1998.
I can't wait for the Warner bros lease on this engine to expire, then the engine will can finally go back to being a GWR engine again, painted green again and working like a real engine should.
The fact that it has survived nearly 41 years through preservation and yet has been known as Hogwarts express for around 20 years I think is very sad. Now that Harry Potter is finally over, the engine should be back to what it was before the films.
I even find it confusing as to why they didn't choose a Black Five or a LNS Jubilee class since they were the sort of engines that did work in Scotland. A GWR Hall? That's just silly.
As a kid growing up on the U.S west coast I actually knew about the gwr but I thought that it was just made up to be the home of duck from Thomas the tank engine.
Just so you’re aware, it’s pronounced Ol-ton Hall. Not All-ton Hall.
So the one at WB in l.a is a replica?
My mom doesn't think Kings Cross is a real station, and every time we watch Harry Potter, she points out how Kings Cross isn't real and blah blah blah, and I get on to her and say "kings cross is a real station, it's in London, it's the big station of London..."
I mean London isn't real, along with the rest of the UK. It's all fake made up by Big British to fool people.
@@HistoryintheDark ok... 😂
King's Cross station is just ONE of the big stations in London, and it's certainly not the biggest of the big stations. Waterloo is the biggest, and also the busiest.
I know it's a film but the inaccuracy of having a GWR loco running from London King's Cross (LNER) is too annoying for me every time I watch the films. Lol
The griffindoor logo looks similar to the British rail one
...n-no...
😅😅😅
Mudblood! How dare you! My Father will hear about this!
@@HistoryintheDark:trollface:
Have you ever thought about making a video about the Great Central Railway?, one of our biggest pieces of infrastructure that was just thrown away almost in its entirety
Okay, that pin hole thing from 1:06 to 1:45 actually hurts to look at.
Oh boy a loco built in the 30’s in a game set in 1880… What are the chances?
Perhaps they’ll update the design of the engine in Hogwarts legacy to match the engine who pulled the express before 8572. Perhaps a Duke or a bulldog…
Then again, Pottermore reckons that the Hogwarts express has only one engine pulling it throughout history (to my knowledge) perhaps they got the original Hogwarts express loco rebuilt by “Magic” later on…
Or, they somehow brought Olten Hall back in time to 1880… but that can’t exactly work as time turners came only take people back in time, not steam engines
A 19th Century locomotive such the 1846-1900
Furness Railway number 3
“ Old Coppernob “ with period accurate passenger equipment would be a better option than the 1930’s Era Olton Hall
would be !
For the 1800’s Era
Hogwarts Legacy game that is !
Year built:April 30,1937
Harry Potter(2001-11)
1991-98
Music: John Williams, Patrick Doyle,Nicholas Hooper and Alexandre Desplat(2001-11)
Directed by:Chris Columbus,Alfonso Curaon,Mike Newell and David Yates
Robert Pattinson-Olton Hall
Go Mr. Gryffindor, go tell off those devs!!! The Jedi Order will back you up!!!!!
I guess JK Rowling did took inspiration of the British Rail logo for the Griffindor logo.
To be fair, lions in European Coat of Arms date back centuries.
Is "livery" pronounced different in America? I've always heard it pronounced like the body organ liver with a "y" on the end.
Yes . And a big part of so many US Wild West films was the Livery Stable for horses.
Correctly pronounced in all the films that were popular from the thirties to sixties at least.
Some recent US coverage of a livery stable getting it right :
ua-cam.com/video/jJ8oTjzXcr8/v-deo.html
@@johnd8892 Just thought I'd say the Commonwealth pronunciation isn't incorrect. It's just not the same. I mean, it's correct here
Ah yes, a hall/castle class. In a game that takes place in 1880… the hells JK gonna make up to get outta this one?
It’s the hogworts express
There are two ways too do things. The Great Western way...ore the wrong way
Fun fact the wizards stole the Hogwarts express in 1890
Date might be wrong but I saw it in a super Carlin brothers video
Edit: it was the late 1820s and here's a video the talks about it ua-cam.com/video/KCiIFbXiAHA/v-deo.html
Here's the Super Carlin Brothers video: ua-cam.com/video/rUPrY42nBPg/v-deo.html
BIGUS!!!!CHINGIOSA!!!!!🎆🎆🎆🎆
The wizards used time magic to steal her from the future.
Ay, credit the saints will ya? (2900 Class)
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The franchise film should of end after deathly hollows part 2. even before crimes of release the films we’re suffering decent declines box office wise compared to the original sorcerer stone in total box of grosses in there original theatrical returns as early as the first sequel chamber of secrets up till the heavily butchered half blood prince was released. Only deathly hollows 1 and 2 indivual surpasses the insane duchess that the original films releases. Though the films did suffering decent production hell delays as early as getting the first film adaptation done.
It was never "The Hogwarts Castle" it's THE HOGWARTS EXPRESS!
That's the name of the entire train. The actual locomotive is called Hogwarts Castle.
The nameplate on the smokebox says Hogwarts Express,that's just what I'm goin by,plus the fact that Hogwarts Castle is never mentioned in the books in relation to the train.
@@tomcline5631 The loco name appears on the name plate above the driving wheels and is indeed "Hogwarts Castle" as seen at Warner Bros., the head board on the smoke box carries the name of the train.
I'm sorry but nowhere in the 7 books and 8 movies is the Hogwarts Castle on the train or mentioned in relation to the train. All the nameplates in the movies say "Hogwarts Express". In the entire franchise, Hogwarts Castle is the physical building,never applied to the train.
Look it up. I've read the books about 35 times and watched the movies at least a dozen each.
Sorry,I'm a 50 year old
nerd.
@@tomcline5631 UA-cam ate my reply, here goes again....
You clearly don't understand the difference between a train service name and a loco name.
For example, the famous non-stop London to Edinburgh train service know as "The Flying Scotsman" has historically been hauled by hundreds of different locos including steam, diesel and electric all bearing their own individual names. It just so happens that one loco was also named "Flying Scotsman" (LNER Class A3 No.4472)
Yes, the Hogwarts loco name was never specifically mentioned in the books, and in the movies, as far as I know, there was never a close-up scene showing the actual loco name.
However, there are numerous videos and photos all over the internet showing the loco name as "Hogwarts Castle" and you can view the original still (I believe) at Warner Bros. I saw it there myself about 4 years ago with my daughter.
Watford if pronounced "Wotford". It''s an easy mistake to trip over, but do try to check the pronunciation of English place-names - even the most innocent-looking ones can harbour pitfalls fore the unwary. And ... Woodham is pronounced "Woodum".
And Collett isn't pronounced "Coll-ett", but more like "Coll-it"
That was the oddest pronouncing of Watford I have ever heard, I had listen to that twice to get that.... Whatford is how it sounds when spoken over here in England
To be fair, he did better than most septics can manage.
You’re a wizard Hogwarts
Sucks knowing J.K Rowling is Transphobic
I don’t like how people define olton hall as a she. So, who’s with me?
Your narration style is very annoying. Could you not just calm down a bit? Otherwise good and interesting video.
GO GETTEM
BEAT THEM WITH THE TRUTH