Good video on the differences between these two, since I have neither I learned a lot. Glad the chance paid off for you. Good tip about looking at the seller's other auctions. Free built in game is a nice exclusive... more companies should do that with their later model systems.
I was begining to think I'd dreamt up the Mater System 2, as I've heard of it, back when it was new, but never seen one untill now. I remember a friend of mine had a Master System, but his had sonic the hedgehog built in.
got mine for 2 bucks at a garage sale yesterday...it was alone with no cords just like yours and untested it was also filthy so i just cleaned it up and now its like brand new for only two buck, i got this system!
@mrfuzzer1 You have to remember the SMS was a huge success in Europe and had a long lifespan. Here in North America the SMS wasn't and didn't. It was discontinued here in 1992 and by then no one was buying it and few games came out for it. In Europe it went on until 1996 and WAY more games came out. By the time the SMSII came out here no one cared, it was dead. So they're really not that common over here. The original isn't as easy to find over here and the SMSII is much harder.
I remember when I was a kid and getting that 1st master system. It was awesome, but we had to return 3 of them back to the store before we got one that worked.
Nice video. I was wondering would the master system adopter for the genesis work on the sega nomand and do the genesis controllers work on master system games. I have been looking at either getting a gamegear or a Nomad. I figured if the adopter would work on the nomad that would make my choice easier because one of the reasons I am looking at a gamegear is the fact it can play master system games. and which one of the two would you recommend getting.
Hell yeah! Having built in games rules! I like the Snail Maze. I am really glad it works man. It looks really nice and I so totally want one some day. I will probably just get another model 1 sms.
@vincedu69 and there is another version, which was only made in brazil. The master system 2 looked the same as the master system 1, but with some technical differences.
Some of the Master System 1's had built-in games as well. Mine has Hang On\Safari Hunt built in. I've also heard of Sonic being built in some of the European models.
Was about to buy a MS2 complete in box for 25 Euro. But i changed my mind in last min, mostly because the lack of the AV port. So im gonna wait and see if i can get ahold of a MS1. Thx for the vid mate!
did you ever play the built in game on the sms 1 it was a little snail in a maze. you would have to put a code in to do it at the load screen but i remember it. i thought it was kind of fun at the time. but it was only on the original sms 1
don't know think i like the wireless master system compact. how can sending video and audio wirelessly to tv be bad now. not sure if you can play sms games on it though or if there is jsut built in games though.
Here in Brazil this one is the Master System 3! 1 and 2 are the same model, but 2 comes with alex kidd in the internal memory and 1 comes with another game (i forgot the name...). You can search from pictures :P
The expansion was used for a keyboard in japan, never made it to N. America. The bread-box model (flap). I got mine as broken, and the power supply was dead. Works great. I used a different ps and it fired right up! Score for you!
When playing games on the original Master System with the AV cable, do you get stereo sound? I ask this because I once played Sonic The Hedgehog on the Game Gear with headphones, and I think the music was in stereo. I'm going to assume the RF output on the MS II doesn't produce stereo sound as was the case with the SNES and N64, also this was the case with the PlayStation.
Sweet vid dude. I just bought a sega master system 2 at a near by value village for 7.99. Just needs a clean up. Couldnt believe it. I dont know if you know this but it seems they now take the controller, RF and power supply, bag them and charge more for them. So, after finding all the loose peices it actually ended up costing just slightly over $20. Still not bad, but I bought a sega genesis with sega cd a year ago and they taped them together but i think they can make more moneythisway.
The Master System (especially the Master System II) was quite popular here in Australia, so I used to find it weird when I heard that alot of North Americans had no idea what a Master System was... but hey, you guys were enjoying the Mega Drive/Genesis before us. Also dude, if you think that built-in games are awesome, you should check out the Master System III, only released in Brazil. 131 bult-in games!
Yes most old consoles will work on most new TVs but once in awhile you get a pair that don't want to get along. Usually fine so just try it and it should work fine. I play NES, SNES, Genesis and all the old stuff on my 37" LG LCD TV just fine.
@mattsprinter I know that, thats why my light gun doesnt work now since i got my new TV, not a big deal for me anyway as I rarely played the light gun games to begin with
Also you can use a Atari 2600 joystick or ANY controller with a DE-9 female plug that used the pinout of an Atari. The only reason the Genesis had more buttons is that pin 7 was a select pin for what was basically a bunch of transitors. Since the SMS didn't use Pin 7, the genesis controller could only use two buttons, B+C. There's actually a reason why. Since the Mega Drive can run Master System games, it'd be annoying to own some but require the SMS joypad for it to work. Thumbs up SEGA
Actually, I tried. I have an old Terminator console, which runs mostly NES games... I plugged it in my Teletech and it won't find it on any channel when I run the automatic search (on AV doesn't work at all). I had an old Melectronic TV and it worked fine there... What could the problem be?
That is no less than AWESOME.. I had one like this when i was little, just more black and yes with Alex Kidd when you don't stick a game into it. I want to have a sega again with Alex Kidd. :D!!!!!!
In europe, nearly all SMS2's had Alex Kidd built in, some had Sonic 1 but are very common to find over here but like I said, the vast majority had Alex Kidd. I dont know if there were any versions of the SMS2 in North America that came with Sonic 1 built in, if so, I can imagine it is extremely rare.
i bought it with the manual rf switch,,,i cant get it to work, i tried putting it on computer and tuning, but it wont show up on the screen.. could i be doing somthing wrong?
does the sms2 have a region code? plz respond because I want to buy this from ebay.co.uk since I'm from europe and I wanna know because it doesn't mention anything apout pal or ntsc
The flap broke on mine so had to open it up and pull it out. still works though. It's about 19 years old now...my longest serving console. miss my first one though, an atari 2600.
Do this old consoles such as Sega Master System, Sega Genesis, Super NES or whatsoever work only on old tv's? Don't they work on newer ones such as Teletech?
It's a great video because he gives a historical view on why SMS II was not fully commercialized in the US and he compares it to SMS I. Not pointless at all :)
@MN12BIRD I live in Sweden, maybe they sold alot better here. I dont know. The original SMS costs more here then the SMS II do. Maybe its the other way around in the states or where you are from. Its I actually got the Master system converter (Baseloader) to play SMS games because all my tv ports are used. but i found that it costs almost the same to get two controllers as it does with the SMS II included so i have one of them but never use it.
Man this makes me sad. I wish I had my Master System II. I got one for Xmas in 1990 and I liked it, problem was finding games for it since Nintendo was the big thing. So the next year we got a Nintendo from my Grandma and my parents gave away my Master System to the neighbor kids who promptly broke it. I wanted to keep both but my parents made us choose.
Yeah, they are producing mega drive 3 right now. It doesn't have a cartridge slot, all the games are inside the memory. It's about 86 games and you can find pictures and the list of the games online.
I love the Master System. I bought a Model 1 back in the day when it was distributed by Tonka. Mine has Hang On built in, and another game, a snail maze game of some kind, that isn't even documented in the manual. I don't recall the sequence you pressed the controller buttons in to get the maze game to run. Sorry. Also, Sega released several 3-D games for the SMS. You plugged the glasses into the card slot. So, obviously, those games can't be played in 3-D mode on the SMS Model 2..
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Aww seeing this brings back memories :) My parents gave away my Master System II way back when :'( Gonna have a look on ebay, could probably pick one up for £15ish :) Great video 5/5
i grew up playing sega genesis on a tiny little tv and bought out one of the exchange stores genesis case a little while ago. i got all the games i remembered and more it was a trip playing with friends getting weird remembering all the levels. i have a new LG i think 47" the pixels are huge which makes for sick drunken blurry mortal kombat fights im tempted to buy an old tv to hook it up to maybe build some sort of genesis arcade system deal buy a couple joysticks
agreed, mine is still fully functional, I only had to replace the cable with the box .. euhm from tv to sega, forgot the name (not the one with the colours :p) bought it on ebay for only 2 dollars so, and it works again
hi, can any1 tell me if theres a trick to tuning the console to work? its all connected buy i have nothing on the tv..does the box need to be on computer or tv or in the middle? any1 plsE?
@Skopelicious There is no way to save your progress un sms2, I remember when i played Sonic, I had to save the game in one day, because every time we restart the console, the game is reseted too .. =D
Alex Kidd in miracle world is fantastic. I own Sonic 1, 2 and Sonic chaos and uh... Double dragon for my master system 2 and Alex kidd is my favourite game.
Cart based systems are bomb proof and not a lot went wrong with them apart from dust in the cart port, even then a simple blow though would sort it, 8bit and 16bit era was the best, never had to worry about CD/DVD drives not reading disc's, red rings of death / over heating, HD fails and loud system fans lol
@CoolDudeClem They changed the built in game later on to Sonic when that came out. Personally I believe the second master system was better, It was the one I had. My friend had the old model, but that did not come with Alex Kidd.... the main reason why SMS 2 was a better model. That game was awesome. SMS 2 was redesigned for simplicity. And the card slot was outdated and obsolete when SMS2 came out so that went. You didn't need the reset button when you had that easy to use switch.
@MN12BIRD Apparently from what I heard the sound chip on an SMS was not much more advanced than what was on a Colecovision but in every other department, the SMS was technically superior. Just a shame Nintendo's stranglehold in the US killed it over there. Fortunately it was extremely popular here in the UK
My cousins had the PAL-G version of the Master System II and I didn't like the cartridge slot because it's so easy to leave the cover open, and when I did, I'm sure I saw an exposed circuit board, not good. Not good at all.
@MN12BIRD I recently got a working master system 2 at a flea market for 47p british - 73 cents canadian didnt come with any cables but the person i got it from said it was working and he was right it only came with marble madness
@chad21shelter Don't get a UK master system. It runs at 50hz that US TVs wont support (or very unlikely) and the games will run dead slow. Unless you modify your Master System.. But if you are in the US get a US one.
There was a SMS 3 released in Brazil only. It sold very well and they had some really cool games on it including Street Fighter II.
alex kidd is AWESOME because you do everything, run swim fight etc.
great video
I'm glad you decided to pick one up.
Good video on the differences between these two, since I have neither I learned a lot. Glad the chance paid off for you. Good tip about looking at the seller's other auctions. Free built in game is a nice exclusive... more companies should do that with their later model systems.
I was begining to think I'd dreamt up the Mater System 2, as I've heard of it, back when it was new, but never seen one untill now. I remember a friend of mine had a Master System, but his had sonic the hedgehog built in.
got mine for 2 bucks at a garage sale yesterday...it was alone with no cords just like yours and untested
it was also filthy so i just cleaned it up and now its like brand new for only two buck, i got this system!
Exactly same story with me. I was burnin' this ol' Alex Kidd when I was 5 in 1995, this was the only console I've ever had with my GB and my SNES.
@mrfuzzer1 You have to remember the SMS was a huge success in Europe and had a long lifespan. Here in North America the SMS wasn't and didn't. It was discontinued here in 1992 and by then no one was buying it and few games came out for it. In Europe it went on until 1996 and WAY more games came out. By the time the SMSII came out here no one cared, it was dead. So they're really not that common over here. The original isn't as easy to find over here and the SMSII is much harder.
got one for 17€ of ebay today with 12 games, 2 pads and a joystick. yay! hope this thing still works. so much good memories about the sms!
I remember when I was a kid and getting that 1st master system. It was awesome, but we had to return 3 of them back to the store before we got one that worked.
Nice video. I was wondering would the master system adopter for the genesis work on the sega nomand and do the genesis controllers work on master system games. I have been looking at either getting a gamegear or a Nomad. I figured if the adopter would work on the nomad that would make my choice easier because one of the reasons I am looking at a gamegear is the fact it can play master system games. and which one of the two would you recommend getting.
Hell yeah! Having built in games rules! I like the Snail Maze. I am really glad it works man. It looks really nice and I so totally want one some day. I will probably just get another model 1 sms.
am am not sure but are the still producing master system in brazil like version 3? iv'e heard it.
@vincedu69
and there is another version, which was only made in brazil. The master system 2 looked the same as the master system 1, but with some technical differences.
Some of the Master System 1's had built-in games as well. Mine has Hang On\Safari Hunt built in. I've also heard of Sonic being built in some of the European models.
@mattsprinter
Just a question, they were'nt games compatiable with the Light Phaser were they?
I played Alex Kidd for HOURS when I was a kid, even now I have it on the Wii Virtual Console :)
Was about to buy a MS2 complete in box for 25 Euro. But i changed my mind in last min, mostly because the lack of the AV port. So im gonna wait and see if i can get ahold of a MS1.
Thx for the vid mate!
did you ever play the built in game on the sms 1 it was a little snail in a maze. you would have to put a code in to do it at the load screen but i remember it. i thought it was kind of fun at the time. but it was only on the original sms 1
don't know think i like the wireless master system compact. how can sending video and audio wirelessly to tv be bad now. not sure if you can play sms games on it though or if there is jsut built in games though.
Same with me haha, i was like like 9 yrs old and my first console ever was SMS2 with Alex Kid my parents bought me. Man good old times...
@mrfuzzer1 Where do you live? Canada? US? UK? EU? AU? Makes a HUGE difference!
Here in Brazil this one is the Master System 3! 1 and 2 are the same model, but 2 comes with alex kidd in the internal memory and 1 comes with another game (i forgot the name...). You can search from pictures :P
@MN12BIRD Do those autoswitches work on the Master System?
The expansion was used for a keyboard in japan, never made it to N. America. The bread-box model (flap).
I got mine as broken, and the power supply was dead. Works great. I used a different ps and it fired right up!
Score for you!
what is the different between 1 and 2 Versions ?
When playing games on the original Master System with the AV cable, do you get stereo sound? I ask this because I once played Sonic The Hedgehog on the Game Gear with headphones, and I think the music was in stereo. I'm going to assume the RF output on the MS II doesn't produce stereo sound as was the case with the SNES and N64, also this was the case with the PlayStation.
aaah i love the master system, in europe it had sonic that automatically played.
that is nice. what did you say that button did? i couldn't hear.
Sweet vid dude. I just bought a sega master system 2 at a near by value village for 7.99. Just needs a clean up. Couldnt believe it. I dont know if you know this but it seems they now take the controller, RF and power supply, bag them and charge more for them. So, after finding all the loose peices it actually ended up costing just slightly over $20. Still not bad, but I bought a sega genesis with sega cd a year ago and they taped them together but i think they can make more moneythisway.
The Master System (especially the Master System II) was quite popular here in Australia, so I used to find it weird when I heard that alot of North Americans had no idea what a Master System was... but hey, you guys were enjoying the Mega Drive/Genesis before us.
Also dude, if you think that built-in games are awesome, you should check out the Master System III, only released in Brazil. 131 bult-in games!
French MS2 had RGB out of the box and changing a jumper runs at 60HZ
Yes most old consoles will work on most new TVs but once in awhile you get a pair that don't want to get along. Usually fine so just try it and it should work fine. I play NES, SNES, Genesis and all the old stuff on my 37" LG LCD TV just fine.
@mattsprinter
I know that, thats why my light gun doesnt work now since i got my new TV, not a big deal for me anyway as I rarely played the light gun games to begin with
Also you can use a Atari 2600 joystick or ANY controller with a DE-9 female plug that used the pinout of an Atari. The only reason the Genesis had more buttons is that pin 7 was a select pin for what was basically a bunch of transitors. Since the SMS didn't use Pin 7, the genesis controller could only use two buttons, B+C.
There's actually a reason why. Since the Mega Drive can run Master System games, it'd be annoying to own some but require the SMS joypad for it to work. Thumbs up SEGA
Actually, I tried. I have an old Terminator console, which runs mostly NES games... I plugged it in my Teletech and it won't find it on any channel when I run the automatic search (on AV doesn't work at all). I had an old Melectronic TV and it worked fine there... What could the problem be?
That is no less than AWESOME..
I had one like this when i was little, just more black and yes with Alex Kidd when you don't stick a game into it.
I want to have a sega again with Alex Kidd. :D!!!!!!
In europe, nearly all SMS2's had Alex Kidd built in, some had Sonic 1 but are very common to find over here but like I said, the vast majority had Alex Kidd.
I dont know if there were any versions of the SMS2 in North America that came with Sonic 1 built in, if so, I can imagine it is extremely rare.
i bought it with the manual rf switch,,,i cant get it to work, i tried putting it on computer and tuning, but it wont show up on the screen.. could i be doing somthing wrong?
does the sms2 have a region code? plz respond because I want to buy this from ebay.co.uk since I'm from europe and I wanna know because it doesn't mention anything apout pal or ntsc
does it causes lines in the screen like the NES 2?
The flap broke on mine so had to open it up and pull it out. still works though.
It's about 19 years old now...my longest serving console. miss my first one though, an atari 2600.
something i noticed looking this up is you an't use the 3d glasses on it too because they used the card slot.
@wolframf mega drive and master system?
Do this old consoles such as Sega Master System, Sega Genesis, Super NES or whatsoever work only on old tv's? Don't they work on newer ones such as Teletech?
in France we had the sms2 with the great RGB video signal
It's a great video because he gives a historical view on why SMS II was not fully commercialized in the US and he compares it to SMS I. Not pointless at all :)
love the sega masters II stil have 1 somewhere it was working the last time i played it
@MN12BIRD I live in Sweden, maybe they sold alot better here. I dont know. The original SMS costs more here then the SMS II do. Maybe its the other way around in the states or where you are from. Its I actually got the Master system converter (Baseloader) to play SMS games because all my tv ports are used. but i found that it costs almost the same to get two controllers as it does with the SMS II included so i have one of them but never use it.
I do miss my Mastersystem 2, i do still play the emulator from time to time but it's just not the same as the original.
Man this makes me sad. I wish I had my Master System II. I got one for Xmas in 1990 and I liked it, problem was finding games for it since Nintendo was the big thing. So the next year we got a Nintendo from my Grandma and my parents gave away my Master System to the neighbor kids who promptly broke it.
I wanted to keep both but my parents made us choose.
@camraid9 Thats not the reset button, is the pause button
Mine's a model 1 with the Version 1.3 BIOS which features the Snail Maze game.
@2chickenbone In my opinion the Master System was the pillar of gaming consoles.
Yeah, they are producing mega drive 3 right now. It doesn't have a cartridge slot, all the games are inside the memory. It's about 86 games and you can find pictures and the list of the games online.
I love the Master System. I bought a Model 1 back in the day when it was distributed by Tonka. Mine has Hang On built in, and another game, a snail maze game of some kind, that isn't even documented in the manual. I don't recall the sequence you pressed the controller buttons in to get the maze game to run. Sorry.
Also, Sega released several 3-D games for the SMS. You plugged the glasses into the card slot. So, obviously, those games can't be played in 3-D mode on the SMS Model 2..
Nice comparison video :)
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Aww seeing this brings back memories :)
My parents gave away my Master System II way back when :'( Gonna have a look on ebay, could probably pick one up for £15ish :)
Great video 5/5
I think its in the attic and I'm too lazy to go look for it up there .
The best reason for the card slot was for the SegaScope 3-D Glasses!
i grew up playing sega genesis on a tiny little tv and bought out one of the exchange stores genesis case a little while ago. i got all the games i remembered and more it was a trip playing with friends getting weird remembering all the levels. i have a new LG i think 47" the pixels are huge which makes for sick drunken blurry mortal kombat fights im tempted to buy an old tv to hook it up to maybe build some sort of genesis arcade system deal buy a couple joysticks
the console celebrated its 25th anniversary this month.
agreed, mine is still fully functional, I only had to replace the cable with the box .. euhm from tv to sega, forgot the name (not the one with the colours :p)
bought it on ebay for only 2 dollars so, and it works again
hi, can any1 tell me if theres a trick to tuning the console to work? its all connected buy i have nothing on the tv..does the box need to be on computer or tv or in the middle? any1 plsE?
it's because it's a number 2 ... people rather want a number 1... because it is the original.
I Have a frensh model SG MS II With av out port, but the cable i have fot it doesnt work on a genesis. Its kinda different.. xD
@Skopelicious There is no way to save your progress un sms2, I remember when i played Sonic, I had to save the game in one day, because every time we restart the console, the game is reseted too .. =D
Alex Kidd in miracle world is fantastic. I own Sonic 1, 2 and Sonic chaos and uh... Double dragon for my master system 2 and Alex kidd is my favourite game.
Cart based systems are bomb proof and not a lot went wrong with them apart from dust in the cart port, even then a simple blow though would sort it, 8bit and 16bit era was the best, never had to worry about CD/DVD drives not reading disc's, red rings of death / over heating, HD fails and loud system fans lol
@MN12BIRD so for quick...I'm a PAL user...sms2 is a universal console after all?
( I really appreciate your immediate response...keep it up man ;) )
@CoolDudeClem
They changed the built in game later on to Sonic when that came out. Personally I believe the second master system was better, It was the one I had. My friend had the old model, but that did not come with Alex Kidd.... the main reason why SMS 2 was a better model. That game was awesome. SMS 2 was redesigned for simplicity.
And the card slot was outdated and obsolete when SMS2 came out so that went. You didn't need the reset button when you had that easy to use switch.
i have the full black version in my attic with built in alex kidd . also have sonic the hedgehog 2 , the terminator and alien 3 . think it still works
@MN12BIRD Very important Thanks
yeah but those glasses typically for 100 or more US dollars..at least... I know I've been hunting those glasses for a couple months now lol
Ok cool thanks for clearing that up
Good for you.
have this one too , in my there is a sonic game embedded
I know right?
My Master System II has Sonic built-in :)
The Master System II is not a big Tonka Truck, its a series of chips.
@MN12BIRD
Apparently from what I heard the sound chip on an SMS was not much more advanced than what was on a Colecovision but in every other department, the SMS was technically superior. Just a shame Nintendo's stranglehold in the US killed it over there. Fortunately it was extremely popular here in the UK
the colour seems to be faded onthe top
My cousins had the PAL-G version of the Master System II and I didn't like the cartridge slot because it's so easy to leave the cover open, and when I did, I'm sure I saw an exposed circuit board, not good. Not good at all.
oh ok. thought that was what you said but it didn't make sense being there.
@MN12BIRD I recently got a working master system 2 at a flea market for 47p british - 73 cents canadian didnt come with any cables but the person i got it from said it was working and he was right it only came with marble madness
Alex the kidd is amazing
Too bad we never got to see master systems in the shape of trucks
Nostalgia
@camraid9 This is how they all look in North America (USA and Canada) the PAL ones in Europe and probably Australia are the black ones.
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Got mine today, had one when i was 12 and gave it away.. big mistake, that was just resolved :)
@chad21shelter Don't get a UK master system. It runs at 50hz that US TVs wont support (or very unlikely) and the games will run dead slow. Unless you modify your Master System.. But if you are in the US get a US one.
thank you
my first console..
post unrelated, this is the first video I have watched on my brand new hp g60 laptop with vista, :D
nope it works fine without anything else plugged into the antenna (or cable) in side.
AV is far better. It has a much clearer image and better audio.
my brother had one of these. Decent system, I would have rather had a model 1.
heeeey!! I need the cable with the box too from sega to tv :D can you find a cable for me on the Balkan ?? :D