We opened up for B2M on their Australia tour back in 1994 and I must say the three were very arrogant no hello the entire tour except MM he was a true gentlemen always go out of his way to say hello, I have a video of him where he came into our change room and gave a us all advice and he even prayed for us before we took the stage man that really fired us up!! Bless you MM and I hope you get your money they owed you...
Mike was always cool even when I would see him in Logan. I don’t know what really happened far as Mike but the 3 would always speak negatively about Mike’s illnesses
That's good to hear about him. Arrogance is so disgusting. I've always believed that arrogance comes from shortcomings people aren't willing to deal with. I'm sorry all of your experience wasn't great.
Chronic health problems can sap your motivation. And if you’ve never had any major health issues, it’s difficult to relate to someone who is suffering with it.
Everyone says that they’re very negative and everyone can’t be lying. Their character has apparently always sucked before they blew up. Money simply magnifies the already horrible character people have.
Maybe it was how Mike from NE played them and they might have thought to be this way instead of letting anyone ever get away with doing it to them again it's just a thought being that I have heard the same stories. If you remember when he was on Iyanla he said himself he didn't tell them and they thought he was missing shows to be home with his family which isn't bad but being in their profession to make money the had to tour and be on the road
Being Called Negative Translates as They Weren’t Allowing anyone to Control Them and Fought to Use their own Creative Abilities! Yes men are viewed as, and Usually Said to be Charming!
Did y'all not hear how they were, they even left a bad taste in Babyface's mouth where he didn't want to work with them again. Then the song he produced for them became a major hit. And Wanye is something else.
@@LetsTalkAboutIt-i9hbabyface produced So many MORE songs for them after “I’ll make love to you” were they/ are they arrogant? Yeah probably, a lot of celebrities have super egos
If I was Mike, I wouldn't want to, they turned their backs on him at a crucial time in his life. He can forgive them but it would be foolish to do business with him.
Everybody couldn’t be lying on B2M. I believe everything Dallas said about them bc I’ve heard this too many times about them being arrogant. They must be some real butt holes.
Only Dallas & khandi said something bad about them Mariah carey loves working with them tim&Bob even said boyz to men where cool yea I heard the stories about babyface but babyface even still cool with them With any artists regardless who they are you gonna have e people that like you & that don't like you
Kandi was asked a few years ago about the who was the worst she had worked with and she named Boys II Men. She relayed her story in a way that wasnt crazy, but just honest. Then Wayna responded in another interview in a way that was disrepectful. It was a perfect example of what people have been saying about them. The funny part is, he made sure to try and tear down Kandi's talant and her career, like she is a hasbeen or just a reality star. Meanwhile, BIIM are having to cancel shows at smaller venues and Kandi just got off a successful tour and she is producing broadway plays.
I don't know what happened but I do know when Mike left the group it just didn't feel the same anymore. They probably would have had better success going solo.
I’d be willing to work with M Bass.. I was in the studio when he was working with Keith Martin and voices of theory, but never got an opportunity to sing for him.
Somebody please help me understand this so-called "Betrayal" Mike speaks of... Mike gets sick, tells no one even the group, decides to leave the group with no explanation, the group gets pissed but still tries to accommodate Mike, he does not reciprocate, gets on tv to talk shit about the group, we know the rest....
They thought he was being lazy and didn't want it nomo granted after he left the group they found out he was sick but they still proceeded to say these things about him then when he got his mind and health better and tried to come back they wanted to give him a contract because of his health he wasn't reliable and he wouldn't be a complete fourth member like he wasn't there from jump that's the betrayal
I never seen not one article on him talking negatively on the group, but the other three their attitude showed in them after he left. Before they didn’t come across like that before to me. My opinion. J/s He was sick!🐍’s
These guys came down with what I like to call David Rufin/Bobby Brown syndrome. Ninjas forgot what got them there and thought they individually were bigger than the group. 💯
@rasavastar308 The group got them where they were not Bobby, in fact his decision to make one good album is exactly what has kept NE out of the Rock N Roll hall of fame where they belong, and it was Ralph and Jonny who did all the heavy lifting. I'm glad to see them working together for the last couple of years and hopefully we'll get another NE project or two before it's all said and done.
Yeah, I'm still confused on this one. Even though I wasn't a big fan of their music ,I'll give them a little grace if they weren't aware of Mike's medical issues at the time.
I miss mike he completes the group for me both are wrong on two fronts mike should have told them and they shouldn't have handle the situation that way i detect them still holding back some truth on the matters at hand i wish they would reunite still being alone isn't easy seems to me wife gone kids gone is very bad diagnosis for suicide trust i live alone i know how it feels when everything is against u stay strong mike 😃👍👊🏿🇯🇲🙏🏼
I’ve been around these guys, they are very arrogant and egotistical. I couldn’t understand why because as a heterosexual man, even I can understand the reason women gravitate towards certain types of men yet these dudes were not attractive, so I couldn’t comprehend the appeal besides the music. This is not me being jealous, this is me not liking people who don’t display humility.
The classroom story is complete B.S. Nate and Marc both went to the high school for Creative and Performing Arts in Philly. A whole buncha people sang really well and sang ALL THE TIME, so nobody was throwing them outta classrooms for singing. Gimme a break! Wanya actually got kicked out of the school and had to finish at Overbrook High. Boyz II Men was just one of a whole lotta groups at the school with singers who were extremely talented They were blessed with an incredible career, and we are all super proud of them.
Ain't too many guys today that can sing and speak deep. The last one to do that was Melvin Franklin of The Temptations. Barry White spoke deep, he didn't sing deep.
So it should be 4, this group needed Micheal’s base vocals, also Micheal was the one that kept on at Micheal Bivins for a shot at the spotlight for the 4 of them. I hope they’ve sorted their crap cause they are explosive together!!
Mike was the ONLY straight-appearing member of the group, and the most handsome, so clearly they were jealous. After he left, I lost interest in the group, completely.
I don’t believe that the contract offers in the R&B genre are lucrative enough to support groups. When you have between 3 - 5 grown people with families all needing to eat off of a check that looks like a solo act’s check? Conflict will ensue….
Absolutely disgusting. They’re supposed to be brothers. This is a life altering condition, mentally and of course physically. Shameful behaviour. I hope they can fix this sad situation.
Nobody knows how and what MS does to you mentally and physically unless you've been through it. It probably was really hard for Mike being young dealing with this altering disease that affected his mind, body, and soul. So there's always 3 sides to a story.
@ he eventually made it public and let his so called brothers know In 2016. And the support was nonexistent. When you are truly brothers you should be there through the good and the bad. Period. This is a life changing condition and it would’ve been extremely difficult to even come to terms with this himself. But at the least you want the love and support of your brothers.
@@Eshaper in 2016 he both revealed to everyone for the first time that he had MS and said that there was no support. Before this moment, the guys didn't know that he had MS, so of course there was no support because he just up and left without revealing anything. Of course it's a life changing condition thats hard to deal with but he literally said that he didn't tell the guys that he had it and this was the first time that they knew that he had it.
I hope he gets back into the group. It will help him with his depression I would think. But what do I know 🤷🏾♂️. Can't imagine what MS does to you. Still my favorite groups
Sounds like the problem was a Michael McCary problem, didn't tell the guys or his wife what was wrong with him, stopped answering their phone calls, he's definitely the one who betrayed everyone, then tried to play the victim, just sad!
Lies! Michael, himself, said he left the group and didn’t respond after he received his diagnosis. He refused to respond because he was self-loathing. Michael said he didn’t tell the group about his illness, the group found out through someone else. He didn’t tell his brothers, they found out from someone else, and everyone was in their feelings.
They should work it out. It’s too often that Black people get into a disagreement with another black person and many years pass before they speak again to fix the problem and for some people they don’t ever get a chance to fix the problem. Cut that nonsense out people And work together.
I’m CERTAIN It Was Wanya Voicing Most Of That. Nate Had An Interesting Demeanor About Him As Well. I Did A Japanese, Toyota Commercial With Them And Wanya DEFINITELY Wanted Folks To Know We Were Wherever We Were At Those Particular Times. Shawn Was A Little On The Quiet Side, And Was Pretty Cool. Mike Was My Dude!!! Whenever I Decided To Walk Around In Between Shoots, He Was Like, “Where You Goin, Bro??” I’d Just Say, Walking Around, And He’d Say, “Let Me Walk With You. I Want To Get Away From This Like You Do” We Were At A Place Called, Gerard College In Philly, And They Told Us That There Were Elementary & Junior High School Children There And For Us To Be Quiet. And Here Goes, Wanya Belting Out These Loud Ass Sounds, And Some Of The Children Started Looking Out The Windows. Someone FINALLY Announced That It Was Boyz II Men, And The Children Went Crazy, Naturally. THIS MUTHA’F’ER WAVED TO THEM AND SAID, “Man, They All Over Playin Themselves” I Wanted To Hook Ol Boiii, And His Bodyguard And Mike Saw Me, And Mike Grabbed Me, Giggled And Said, “Yo, Take A Walk With Me Real Quick” He Then Said, “Man, Thats How He Acts” I’m Like, THEY ARE KIDS, FAM!!!! My Bad For The Rant..It’s My Way Of Co-Signing Kn Their Sucka Shiiiit
All of this seem to have come about due to lack of communication. If he had the courage to open up to his band mates about what he’s going through, maybe things would’ve panned out differently.
Well, I can definitely understand their frustration with Mike repeatedly missing rehearsals & performances & wanting him to sign a contract that would hold him to his word to get back in the group!!!
@@QueenAnitaSoul1 I just gave my opinion IF they are speaking facts, but if they aren’t, then Mike made the correct decision to BOUNCE! However, I’ve been in the Music Industry since 1995 & I’ve definitely heard a few negative stories about Boyz ll Men!!!
@@michaelallen8112 Agreed!!! Once a recording artist’s record sales fall off it’s very difficult to regain that momentum if 2 years or more go by. I was the Guitarist for the 90’s R&B Male Group “Hi-Five” in 2022 & we opened up for “Boyz ll Men” & when I met them backstage they seemed cool!!! They definitely rocked their set & so did WE!!!🙏🏽🙌🏽💪🏽😂 “Hi-Five Still Got it by Music Lover on 8/9/22 I saw them in California with their live band and Boyz II Men. When I tell you the show was great I mean it. The vocals were so good! Not to mention the great dancing and the love band. They put on a great show can’t wait to see them again.”
@@7777Lace HI Five hard to not envision them with Lead Member Thompson that pass. Glad u doin well & work with our fave groups growing up. What's next for u ?? Also, u need link up with Architect out the Bay, when u get a chance
For Mike to forgive them after what they did and how they acted. Is amazing.michael was not right for bailing and not communicating either. It made him unreliable and bad for business. TRUE B2M DID carry on and carry the name.But they knew he was battling. Lemme say this idk anyone with M.S. THAT WORKS,LET ALONE TOURS.Now when it comes to Dallas Austin. HE isn't lying. Quincy Jones and Candy echo these same sentiments. For Dallas Austin to walk away from a lucrative deal like that.They were unbearable and no amount of money can change that. He chose peace!!! The fact that nate responded that way is crazy given that Dallas just told the truth. B2m themselves said that after they insisted on having a say of what song should be released their career was essentially over.Now this may not mean much because most music industry people don't want the talent tell their what to do.
This group had been arrogant since day 1, Michael got MS and changed his attitude. If you go see this group sing now, the only 1 that sounds the same is Wanya.
Once maturity kicks in, you realize you took a lot of things and people for granted and possibly how wrong all that was. Listening to this narrative and looking back at how I've remained a die-hard fan of this group since the early days, I feel like we are all getting past that phase and ready for the future. Mike belongs with his brothers in their group. I believe that's why he never formed or joined any other group, and neither did they. They should just squash every pending toxic issue from the past and move into the future together, enjoying what they do best. At this point, it's not even about the money anymore, same as how some of us still prefer their music and remain loyal to them...
I sympathize with Mike on his medical condition but walking away from the group with no proper explanation and still expecting them to be supportive and maintain communication is a bit selfish to me.
So...he was the issue, because its his fault he didnt tell them. You cant truyl call them your "brothers" if you couldnt tell them about the sickness??? 🤔
I preferred their sound with mike period!
I AGREE. It's NOT the same sound without MIKE!
His voice 🥰
FACTS!!!
We opened up for B2M on their Australia tour back in 1994 and I must say the three were very arrogant no hello the entire tour except MM he was a true gentlemen always go out of his way to say hello, I have a video of him where he came into our change room and gave a us all advice and he even prayed for us before we took the stage man that really fired us up!!
Bless you MM and I hope you get your money they owed you...
Mike was always cool even when I would see him in Logan. I don’t know what really happened far as Mike but the 3 would always speak negatively about Mike’s illnesses
That's good to hear about him. Arrogance is so disgusting. I've always believed that arrogance comes from shortcomings people aren't willing to deal with. I'm sorry all of your experience wasn't great.
Chronic health problems can sap your motivation. And if you’ve never had any major health issues, it’s difficult to relate to someone who is suffering with it.
God help us, we pray🙏
Mike should’ve been honest about his condition with his band mates and wife. This tension could’ve been avoided.
Having multiple sclerosis will definitely change your life because nobody understands us... Enjoyed watching you cover my fav group🥰
That's so true, unfortunately
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They will never be the same without him
I totally agree ❤
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Disagree. They are still 🔥. He wasn’t really a factor.
Thank you!!! They are unbalanced without him.
Everyone says that they’re very negative and everyone can’t be lying. Their character has apparently always sucked before they blew up. Money simply magnifies the already horrible character people have.
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Maybe it was how Mike from NE played them and they might have thought to be this way instead of letting anyone ever get away with doing it to them again it's just a thought being that I have heard the same stories. If you remember when he was on Iyanla he said himself he didn't tell them and they thought he was missing shows to be home with his family which isn't bad but being in their profession to make money the had to tour and be on the road
Being Called Negative Translates as They Weren’t Allowing anyone to Control Them and Fought to Use their own Creative Abilities! Yes men are viewed as, and Usually Said to be Charming!
Did y'all not hear how they were, they even left a bad taste in Babyface's mouth where he didn't want to work with them again. Then the song he produced for them became a major hit. And Wanye is something else.
@@LetsTalkAboutIt-i9hbabyface produced So many MORE songs for them after “I’ll make love to you” were they/ are they arrogant? Yeah probably, a lot of celebrities have super egos
I would and will not see them in concert if Mike isn't there. If New Edition can forgive Bobby Brown for all of his shenanigans, then why can't they.
If I was Mike, I wouldn't want to, they turned their backs on him at a crucial time in his life. He can forgive them but it would be foolish to do business with him.
Dallas Austin is a huge underrated producer!!
He’s legendary
Yes he is legendary and Chili’s son’s father. Just found that out.
Correction: Boyz II Men was formed in the late-80s and released their debut single and album in 1991...not 1995.
noticed that right away also..like HUH
@@Dizzle0919 tbh an incorrect fact like always automatically invalidates the video
@@dnd_twozee3409 I suspect that a lot of this stuff is A.I.-generated.
Right!
Yeah, belbivdevoe , at their peak, I think pretty much mentored them
Everybody couldn’t be lying on B2M. I believe everything Dallas said about them bc I’ve heard this too many times about them being arrogant. They must be some real butt holes.
They come off like the type of dudes most level headed women wouldn’t go for because they can’t fight or fuck.
Only Dallas & khandi said something bad about them
Mariah carey loves working with them tim&Bob even said boyz to men where cool yea I heard the stories about babyface but babyface even still cool with them
With any artists regardless who they are you gonna have e people that like you & that don't like you
Money and success make you who you really are
Yeah, they are amazingly talented. But I've heard from various sources that they are nightmare to work with.
They kind of disrespected the ladies of TLC back in the day.
@@maxday1000 Yup! And Kandi Buress, also.
@@maxday1000what?! Wow I did not know that! 😮
They gave Baby Face a hard time when he was working with them
Yup mean to xscape@platinumstar8
They need mike for that boys to men sound.
Make Male Groups Great Again 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 ( Without Egos )
The music hasn't been as good since he left the group
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That's because Babyface no longer was writing for them. Boyz II Men was a pure vehicle for Babyface hits!!!
I really hope he comes back. Their sound hasn't been the same without him.
Kandi was asked a few years ago about the who was the worst she had worked with and she named Boys II Men. She relayed her story in a way that wasnt crazy, but just honest. Then Wayna responded in another interview in a way that was disrepectful. It was a perfect example of what people have been saying about them. The funny part is, he made sure to try and tear down Kandi's talant and her career, like she is a hasbeen or just a reality star. Meanwhile, BIIM are having to cancel shows at smaller venues and Kandi just got off a successful tour and she is producing broadway plays.
Kandi said, they did her Wrong.
I don't know what happened but I do know when Mike left the group it just didn't feel the same anymore. They probably would have had better success going solo.
Dallas Austin is not the only artist/writer to say the exact same thing about BIIM
There is a reason they are now a nostalgic act!
❤ Never break something that working ❤
I hope he returns I miss mike
Mike passed away some years ago
@@bighdagreat2260
Yo, what are you talking about??? And where did you get that info from? Michael McCary is STILL HERE!!! SMDH!🤨
no he did not he's alive what are you talking about
Spreading lies @bighdagreat2260
@@7777Lace🤔🤔
I’d be willing to work with M Bass.. I was in the studio when he was working with Keith Martin and voices of theory, but never got an opportunity to sing for him.
Love that song Say It
The way it’s worded here makes it sound like Nate handed out diss tweets back in ‘94. 😂
I just commented this. Too many anomalies
They have been out since 1990 I love in Philly in the early 90's they were poppin
'91
Mike really should have been honest about his condition.
Why would he be honest when he felt like they wasn't trustworthy
Ill make love to you was NOT on Cooley High album
So many anomalies in this story. I'm getting the impression that tweets were being sent in the 90s.
Somebody please help me understand this so-called "Betrayal" Mike speaks of...
Mike gets sick, tells no one even the group, decides to leave the group with no explanation, the group gets pissed but still tries to accommodate Mike, he does not reciprocate, gets on tv to talk shit about the group, we know the rest....
And they actually still paid him when he couldn't make shows while they were touring before he left.........
They thought he was being lazy and didn't want it nomo granted after he left the group they found out he was sick but they still proceeded to say these things about him then when he got his mind and health better and tried to come back they wanted to give him a contract because of his health he wasn't reliable and he wouldn't be a complete fourth member like he wasn't there from jump that's the betrayal
@@briannamays314Very true.
I never seen not one article on him talking negatively on the group, but the other three their attitude showed in them after he left. Before they didn’t come across like that before to me. My opinion. J/s He was sick!🐍’s
@@sircharlessirok
I don't know what happened between Boyz to men and my lil cuzn from Detroit Uncle Sam but they made some awesome music with my cuzn ❤❤❤
Oh yeah uncle sam album was dope
Betrayal is a Philly music community tradition.
Yes it is and I'm from Philly they will betray each other quicker than the wind blows
These guys came down with what I like to call David Rufin/Bobby Brown syndrome. Ninjas forgot what got them there and thought they individually were bigger than the group. 💯
Facts!!!
BOBBY WZ BIGGER THAN THE GROUP 🤷🏾♂️
@rasavastar308 The group got them where they were not Bobby, in fact his decision to make one good album is exactly what has kept NE out of the Rock N Roll hall of fame where they belong, and it was Ralph and Jonny who did all the heavy lifting. I'm glad to see them working together for the last couple of years and hopefully we'll get another NE project or two before it's all said and done.
@@rasavastar308came here to say this
But how can you leave your partner for 13yrs who's in a serious health problem. Terrible human
Yeah, I'm still confused on this one. Even though I wasn't a big fan of their music ,I'll give them a little grace if they weren't aware of Mike's medical issues at the time.
What happened when they got aware?
I miss mike he completes the group for me both are wrong on two fronts mike should have told them and they shouldn't have handle the situation that way i detect them still holding back some truth on the matters at hand i wish they would reunite still being alone isn't easy seems to me wife gone kids gone is very bad diagnosis for suicide trust i live alone i know how it feels when everything is against u stay strong mike 😃👍👊🏿🇯🇲🙏🏼
5:59 vlad is messy
I’ve been around these guys, they are very arrogant and egotistical. I couldn’t understand why because as a heterosexual man, even I can understand the reason women gravitate towards certain types of men yet these dudes were not attractive, so I couldn’t comprehend the appeal besides the music. This is not me being jealous, this is me not liking people who don’t display humility.
I share these exact sentiments. IMO Silk and Shai have better vocal ability and far more attractive members.
SO HE WAS SICK AND IF YOU SUFFERED WITH THAT TYPE OF PAIN. "MS" YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE BEEN SUPPORTED. UNDERSTANDING.. PRAYING 🙏🏿
Glad they mad up❤🎉
The classroom story is complete B.S. Nate and Marc both went to the high school for Creative and Performing Arts in Philly. A whole buncha people sang really well and sang ALL THE TIME, so nobody was throwing them outta classrooms for singing. Gimme a break! Wanya actually got kicked out of the school and had to finish at Overbrook High. Boyz II Men was just one of a whole lotta groups at the school with singers who were extremely talented They were blessed with an incredible career, and we are all super proud of them.
Deep tone brother he is. The rest of the brothers has that average skippy skippy tone. Love the deep tone voices
Ain't too many guys today that can sing and speak deep. The last one to do that was Melvin Franklin of The Temptations. Barry White spoke deep, he didn't sing deep.
NOBODY in B2M has "average" tone in ANY form...are u crazy?
@ If you say so🎼
They assholes but definitely not average "them Boyz got talent"
@STREAM2UJA LOL right!!! It's best the brutha just said he's being biased for liking the "deep" form of singing...😏
So it should be 4, this group needed Micheal’s base vocals, also Micheal was the one that kept on at Micheal Bivins for a shot at the spotlight for the 4 of them. I hope they’ve sorted their crap cause they are explosive together!!
Mike was the ONLY straight-appearing member of the group, and the most handsome, so clearly they were jealous. After he left, I lost interest in the group, completely.
They needed Mike because he was the only normal looking dude 😂
Not 1995.
1991 !!
Narrator: Get your facts correct. They emerged years before 1995.
Can't believe I sat through this. This video was terrible
NATE WAS THE ARROGANT ONE
All 3 are arrogant, but I agree that Nate Morris is the biggest A hole of the group.
Love was very strong with couples back in those days
There are no more male r&b groups or female r&b groups. R&b isn't what it used to be.
I don’t believe that the contract offers in the R&B genre are lucrative enough to support groups. When you have between 3 - 5 grown people with families all needing to eat off of a check that looks like a solo act’s check? Conflict will ensue….
They were kids in the 90’s so having egos makes sense
Michael is the missing link come my brother's life is short please get together mad Luv from IILTOWN Jersey 🎤🎤🎤🎤
You can't blame the other guys for Michael, he did not tell them. Hell, he didn't tell his wife. All they knew was he was acting funny. 🧐
If they don't KNOW what is wrong. How could they handle it RIGHT!?
Bring back Mike, it's just not the same without him
They're full of shhh! He's my favorite singer in the group! So Jag was right again!!🤨
I meet them back in the day they are rude. Especially Nate and Wanya😐
Absolutely disgusting. They’re supposed to be brothers. This is a life altering condition, mentally and of course physically. Shameful behaviour. I hope they can fix this sad situation.
How is it disgusting when he didn't tell them that he had the condition?
Nobody knows how and what MS does to you mentally and physically unless you've been through it. It probably was really hard for Mike being young dealing with this altering disease that affected his mind, body, and soul. So there's always 3 sides to a story.
@ he eventually made it public and let his so called brothers know In 2016. And the support was nonexistent. When you are truly brothers you should be there through the good and the bad. Period. This is a life changing condition and it would’ve been extremely difficult to even come to terms with this himself. But at the least you want the love and support of your brothers.
@ I know!
@@Eshaper in 2016 he both revealed to everyone for the first time that he had MS and said that there was no support. Before this moment, the guys didn't know that he had MS, so of course there was no support because he just up and left without revealing anything. Of course it's a life changing condition thats hard to deal with but he literally said that he didn't tell the guys that he had it and this was the first time that they knew that he had it.
They thought they was the 4 tops to being the 3 nots
I hope he gets back into the group. It will help him with his depression I would think. But what do I know 🤷🏾♂️. Can't imagine what MS does to you. Still my favorite groups
Sounds like they are all guilty in some way
Thats gonna be hard to come back at the regular capacity with MS. However, they havent had anything new out in years. 😊
Their sound is not complete without Mike's voice
Tim Kelley And Bob Robinson (Tim and Bob) did most of II if I’m not mistaken.
Don't Know them but if He's Deserving then hope they can get back together 4 Good!!
I have heard it was Nate' and Shawn who had the big head. But they were humbled real quick
Sounds like the problem was a Michael McCary problem, didn't tell the guys or his wife what was wrong with him, stopped answering their phone calls, he's definitely the one who betrayed everyone, then tried to play the victim, just sad!
Lies! Michael, himself, said he left the group and didn’t respond after he received his diagnosis. He refused to respond because he was self-loathing. Michael said he didn’t tell the group about his illness, the group found out through someone else. He didn’t tell his brothers, they found out from someone else, and everyone was in their feelings.
They did not come out in 95
They should work it out. It’s too often that Black people get into a disagreement with another black person and many years pass before they speak again to fix the problem and for some people they don’t ever get a chance to fix the problem. Cut that nonsense out people And work together.
I feel so bad for this generation. All the R&B singers have been accused of sexual assault. Trey, Chris and R Kelly. They don’t have any boy bands.
It’s egotistic 🤣
0:50 definitely not 1995
I’m CERTAIN It Was Wanya Voicing Most Of That. Nate Had An Interesting Demeanor About Him As Well. I Did A Japanese, Toyota Commercial With Them And Wanya DEFINITELY Wanted Folks To Know We Were Wherever We Were At Those Particular Times. Shawn Was A Little On The Quiet Side, And Was Pretty Cool. Mike Was My Dude!!! Whenever I Decided To Walk Around In Between Shoots, He Was Like, “Where You Goin, Bro??” I’d Just Say, Walking Around, And He’d Say, “Let Me Walk With You. I Want To Get Away From This Like You Do” We Were At A Place Called, Gerard College In Philly, And They Told Us That There Were Elementary & Junior High School Children There And For Us To Be Quiet. And Here Goes, Wanya Belting Out These Loud Ass Sounds, And Some Of The Children Started Looking Out The Windows. Someone FINALLY Announced That It Was Boyz II Men, And The Children Went Crazy, Naturally. THIS MUTHA’F’ER WAVED TO THEM AND SAID, “Man, They All Over Playin Themselves” I Wanted To Hook Ol Boiii, And His Bodyguard And Mike Saw Me, And Mike Grabbed Me, Giggled And Said, “Yo, Take A Walk With Me Real Quick” He Then Said, “Man, Thats How He Acts” I’m Like, THEY ARE KIDS, FAM!!!! My Bad For The Rant..It’s My Way Of Co-Signing Kn Their Sucka Shiiiit
You can't keep to yourself and expect people to know what's going on with you.....going as far as keeping it from your wife is crazy
All of this seem to have come about due to lack of communication. If he had the courage to open up to his band mates about what he’s going through, maybe things would’ve panned out differently.
I stopped listening to them, after Mike left. Mike was/is my favorite!!
Well, I can definitely understand their frustration with Mike repeatedly missing rehearsals & performances & wanting him to sign a contract that would hold him to his word to get back in the group!!!
How do you know that's accurate ?
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I just gave my opinion IF they are speaking facts, but if they aren’t, then Mike made the correct decision to BOUNCE! However, I’ve been in the Music Industry since 1995 & I’ve definitely heard a few negative stories about Boyz ll Men!!!
@@7777LaceWhat group we grew up on gonna be making a return soon
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Agreed!!! Once a recording artist’s record sales fall off it’s very difficult to regain that momentum if 2 years or more go by.
I was the Guitarist for the 90’s R&B Male Group “Hi-Five” in 2022 & we opened up for “Boyz ll Men” & when I met them backstage they seemed cool!!! They definitely rocked their set & so did WE!!!🙏🏽🙌🏽💪🏽😂
“Hi-Five Still Got it
by Music Lover on 8/9/22
I saw them in California with their live band and Boyz II Men. When I tell you the show was great I mean it. The vocals were so good! Not to mention the great dancing and the love band. They put on a great show can’t wait to see them again.”
@@7777Lace HI Five hard to not envision them with Lead Member Thompson that pass. Glad u doin well & work with our fave groups growing up. What's next for u ?? Also, u need link up with Architect out the Bay, when u get a chance
For Mike to forgive them after what they did and how they acted. Is amazing.michael was not right for bailing and not communicating either. It made him unreliable and bad for business. TRUE B2M DID carry on and carry the name.But they knew he was battling. Lemme say this idk anyone with M.S. THAT WORKS,LET ALONE TOURS.Now when it comes to Dallas Austin. HE isn't lying. Quincy Jones and Candy echo these same sentiments. For Dallas Austin to walk away from a lucrative deal like that.They were unbearable and no amount of money can change that. He chose peace!!! The fact that nate responded that way is crazy given that Dallas just told the truth. B2m themselves said that after they insisted on having a say of what song should be released their career was essentially over.Now this may not mean much because most music industry people don't want the talent tell their what to do.
Had he let people know what was wrong things may have been different
NOW EVERYBODY HATING ON BOYS TO MEN. EVERY GROUP GOES THROUGH PROBLEMS
This group had been arrogant since day 1, Michael got MS and changed his attitude. If you go see this group sing now, the only 1 that sounds the same is Wanya.
It would be great if he returns but for how long? If he has MS he may have to sit out on certain performances or shows.
Stating that they came out in 95 invalidates this whole story ..like seriously!
That dont make no sense. If someone has a chronic illness what di you expect
Once maturity kicks in, you realize you took a lot of things and people for granted and possibly how wrong all that was. Listening to this narrative and looking back at how I've remained a die-hard fan of this group since the early days, I feel like we are all getting past that phase and ready for the future. Mike belongs with his brothers in their group. I believe that's why he never formed or joined any other group, and neither did they. They should just squash every pending toxic issue from the past and move into the future together, enjoying what they do best. At this point, it's not even about the money anymore, same as how some of us still prefer their music and remain loyal to them...
I met them at a meet and greet. They were terrible. Huge disappointment.
I saw a Podcast and it was said Michael Bivens gave them a shady deal.
I hope they get back together. That would be so so nice to see. 💕🙏🏿
After making such great music and possessing so much talent, it’d be a shame for them to turn out to be A-holes
1995? You need to do better research! Their second album 2 came out the Fall of 94... Cooleyhighharmony came out in 91... seriously?
I sympathize with Mike on his medical condition but walking away from the group with no proper explanation and still expecting them to be supportive and maintain communication is a bit selfish to me.
Though Boyz II Men is still (to this day) my favorite group, Nathan has always struck me as arrogant and conceded. Never cared for him too much.
Life is too short for black men.Mostly successful singers.Get back together and work this shit out.😊
What ?
He got ill the here was no real friendship
He was there then sick and gone! Weird 🤔 I thought at the time 🙄 What now🫥
So...he was the issue, because its his fault he didnt tell them. You cant truyl call them your "brothers" if you couldnt tell them about the sickness??? 🤔
Of course there was ego… they were boys
❤How did they 🍁🍁 fall❤
I'm so disappointed, but happy to even see all four of them on the same stage,
So long as they don't make peace with Mike,they will never ever score another hit...fix it guys