Chronic health problems can sap your motivation. And if you’ve never had any major health issues, it’s difficult to relate to someone who is suffering with it.
Everyone says that they’re very negative and everyone can’t be lying. Their character has apparently always sucked before they blew up. Money simply magnifies the already horrible character people have.
Maybe it was how Mike from NE played them and they might have thought to be this way instead of letting anyone ever get away with doing it to them again it's just a thought being that I have heard the same stories. If you remember when he was on Iyanla he said himself he didn't tell them and they thought he was missing shows to be home with his family which isn't bad but being in their profession to make money the had to tour and be on the road
Somebody please help me understand this so-called "Betrayal" Mike speaks of... Mike gets sick, tells no one even the group, decides to leave the group with no explanation, the group gets pissed but still tries to accommodate Mike, he does not reciprocate, gets on tv to talk shit about the group, we know the rest....
They thought he was being lazy and didn't want it nomo granted after he left the group they found out he was sick but they still proceeded to say these things about him then when he got his mind and health better and tried to come back they wanted to give him a contract because of his health he wasn't reliable and he wouldn't be a complete fourth member like he wasn't there from jump that's the betrayal
Everybody couldn’t be lying on B2M. I believe everything Dallas said about them bc I’ve heard this too many times about them being arrogant. They must be some real butt holes.
Only Dallas & khandi said something bad about them Mariah carey loves working with them tim&Bob even said boyz to men where cool yea I heard the stories about babyface but babyface even still cool with them With any artists regardless who they are you gonna have e people that like you & that don't like you
Ain't too many guys today that can sing and speak deep. The last one to do that was Melvin Franklin of The Temptations. Barry White spoke deep, he didn't sing deep.
We opened up for B2M on their Australia tour back in 1994 and I must say the three were very arrogant no hello the entire tour except MM he was a true gentlemen always go out of his way to say hello, I have a video of him where he came into our change room and gave a us all advice and he even prayed for us before we took the stage man that really fired us up!! Bless you MM and I hope you get your money they owed you...
These guys came down with what I like to call David Rufin/Bobby Brown syndrome. Ninjas forgot what got them there and thought they individually were bigger than the group. 💯
Yeah, I'm still confused on this one. Even though I wasn't a big fan of their music ,I'll give them a little grace if they weren't aware of Mike's medical issues at the time.
I sympathize with Mike on his medical condition but walking away from the group with no proper explanation and still expecting them to be supportive and maintain communication is a bit selfish to me.
I miss mike he completes the group for me both are wrong on two fronts mike should have told them and they shouldn't have handle the situation that way i detect them still holding back some truth on the matters at hand i wish they would reunite still being alone isn't easy seems to me wife gone kids gone is very bad diagnosis for suicide trust i live alone i know how it feels when everything is against u stay strong mike 😃👍👊🏿🇯🇲🙏🏼
Well, I can definitely understand their frustration with Mike repeatedly missing rehearsals & performances & wanting him to sign a contract that would hold him to his word to get back in the group!!!
@@QueenAnitaSoul1 I just gave my opinion IF they are speaking facts, but if they aren’t, then Mike made the correct decision to BOUNCE! However, I’ve been in the Music Industry since 1995 & I’ve definitely heard a few negative stories about Boyz ll Men!!!
Absolutely disgusting. They’re supposed to be brothers. This is a life altering condition, mentally and of course physically. Shameful behaviour. I hope they can fix this sad situation.
Nobody knows how and what MS does to you mentally and physically unless you've been through it. It probably was really hard for Mike being young dealing with this altering disease that affected his mind, body, and soul. So there's always 3 sides to a story.
I’m CERTAIN It Was Wanya Voicing Most Of That. Nate Had An Interesting Demeanor About Him As Well. I Did A Japanese, Toyota Commercial With Them And Wanya DEFINITELY Wanted Folks To Know We Were Wherever We Were At Those Particular Times. Shawn Was A Little On The Quiet Side, And Was Pretty Cool. Mike Was My Dude!!! Whenever I Decided To Walk Around In Between Shoots, He Was Like, “Where You Goin, Bro??” I’d Just Say, Walking Around, And He’d Say, “Let Me Walk With You. I Want To Get Away From This Like You Do” We Were At A Place Called, Gerard College In Philly, And They Told Us That There Were Elementary & Junior High School Children There And For Us To Be Quiet. And Here Goes, Wanya Belting Out These Loud Ass Sounds, And Some Of The Children Started Looking Out The Windows. Someone FINALLY Announced That It Was Boyz II Men, And The Children Went Crazy, Naturally. THIS MUTHA’F’ER WAVED TO THEM AND SAID, “Man, They All Over Playin Themselves” I Wanted To Hook Ol Boiii, And His Bodyguard And Mike Saw Me, And Mike Grabbed Me, Giggled And Said, “Yo, Take A Walk With Me Real Quick” He Then Said, “Man, Thats How He Acts” I’m Like, THEY ARE KIDS, FAM!!!! My Bad For The Rant..It’s My Way Of Co-Signing Kn Their Sucka Shiiiit
I don’t believe that the contract offers in the R&B genre are lucrative enough to support groups. When you have between 3 - 5 grown people with families all needing to eat off of a check that looks like a solo act’s check? Conflict will ensue….
This group had been arrogant since day 1, Michael got MS and changed his attitude. If you go see this group sing now, the only 1 that sounds the same is Wanya.
Once maturity kicks in, you realize you took a lot of things and people for granted and possibly how wrong all that was. Listening to this narrative and looking back at how I've remained a die-hard fan of this group since the early days, I feel like we are all getting past that phase and ready for the future. Mike belongs with his brothers in their group. I believe that's why he never formed or joined any other group, and neither did they. They should just squash every pending toxic issue from the past and move into the future together, enjoying what they do best. At this point, it's not even about the money anymore, same as how some of us still prefer their music and remain loyal to them...
@@calvinhamilton4393 Can’t believe you if you haven’t even done research on your statement. They are not even in the top 20 selling groups of all time… The Beatles are the highest selling group of all time. So put that crystal meth down 😂 1 BEATLES 2 QUEEN 3 ABBA 4 ROLLING STONES 5 OASIS 6 TAKE THAT 7 SPICE GIRLS 8 BEE GEES 9 U2 10 STATUS QUO 11 BOYZONE 12 BLONDIE 13 BLACK EYED PEAS 14 BONEY M 15 SLADE 16 WESTLIFE 17 UB40 18 MADNESS 19 POLICE 20 WHAM!
They were good but I wasn't a big fan of their music. Their 1st alblum was OK but that's not my style of music. Dallas Austin is a huge underrated producer!!
@@calvinhamilton4393 They weren’t even in the top 20 best selling groups of all time. Are you kidding? 1 BEATLES 2 QUEEN 3 ABBA 4 ROLLING STONES 5 OASIS 6 TAKE THAT 7 SPICE GIRLS 8 BEE GEES 9 U2 10 STATUS QUO 11 BOYZONE 12 BLONDIE 13 BLACK EYED PEAS 14 BONEY M 15 SLADE 16 WESTLIFE 17 UB40 18 MADNESS 19 POLICE 20 WHAM!
Having multiple sclerosis will definitely change your life because nobody understands us... Enjoyed watching you cover my fav group🥰
That's so true, unfortunately
I preferred their sound with mike period!
I AGREE. It's NOT the same sound without MIKE!
Chronic health problems can sap your motivation. And if you’ve never had any major health issues, it’s difficult to relate to someone who is suffering with it.
They will never be the same without him
I totally agree ❤
Everyone says that they’re very negative and everyone can’t be lying. Their character has apparently always sucked before they blew up. Money simply magnifies the already horrible character people have.
💯
Maybe it was how Mike from NE played them and they might have thought to be this way instead of letting anyone ever get away with doing it to them again it's just a thought being that I have heard the same stories. If you remember when he was on Iyanla he said himself he didn't tell them and they thought he was missing shows to be home with his family which isn't bad but being in their profession to make money the had to tour and be on the road
Correction: Boyz II Men was formed in the late-80s and released their debut single and album in 1991...not 1995.
noticed that right away also..like HUH
@@Dizzle0919 tbh an incorrect fact like always automatically invalidates the video
I hope he returns I miss mike
Mike passed away some years ago
@@bighdagreat2260
Yo, what are you talking about??? And where did you get that info from? Michael McCary is STILL HERE!!! SMDH!🤨
no he did not he's alive what are you talking about
Spreading lies @bighdagreat2260
Dallas Austin is a huge underrated producer!!
He’s legendary
Yeah, they are amazingly talented. But I've heard from various sources that they are nightmare to work with.
They kind of disrespected the ladies of TLC back in the day.
@@maxday1000 Yup! And Kandi Buress, also.
@@maxday1000what?! Wow I did not know that! 😮
They gave Baby Face a hard time when he was working with them
Yup mean to xscape@platinumstar8
They need mike for that boys to men sound.
Somebody please help me understand this so-called "Betrayal" Mike speaks of...
Mike gets sick, tells no one even the group, decides to leave the group with no explanation, the group gets pissed but still tries to accommodate Mike, he does not reciprocate, gets on tv to talk shit about the group, we know the rest....
And they actually still paid him when he couldn't make shows while they were touring before he left.........
They thought he was being lazy and didn't want it nomo granted after he left the group they found out he was sick but they still proceeded to say these things about him then when he got his mind and health better and tried to come back they wanted to give him a contract because of his health he wasn't reliable and he wouldn't be a complete fourth member like he wasn't there from jump that's the betrayal
There is a reason they are now a nostalgic act!
Everybody couldn’t be lying on B2M. I believe everything Dallas said about them bc I’ve heard this too many times about them being arrogant. They must be some real butt holes.
They come off like the type of dudes most level headed women wouldn’t go for because they can’t fight or fuck.
Only Dallas & khandi said something bad about them
Mariah carey loves working with them tim&Bob even said boyz to men where cool yea I heard the stories about babyface but babyface even still cool with them
With any artists regardless who they are you gonna have e people that like you & that don't like you
The music hasn't been as good since he left the group
Deep tone brother he is. The rest of the brothers has that average skippy skippy tone. Love the deep tone voices
Ain't too many guys today that can sing and speak deep. The last one to do that was Melvin Franklin of The Temptations. Barry White spoke deep, he didn't sing deep.
Mike really should have been honest about his condition.
We opened up for B2M on their Australia tour back in 1994 and I must say the three were very arrogant no hello the entire tour except MM he was a true gentlemen always go out of his way to say hello, I have a video of him where he came into our change room and gave a us all advice and he even prayed for us before we took the stage man that really fired us up!!
Bless you MM and I hope you get your money they owed you...
These guys came down with what I like to call David Rufin/Bobby Brown syndrome. Ninjas forgot what got them there and thought they individually were bigger than the group. 💯
They have been out since 1990 I love in Philly in the early 90's they were poppin
The way it’s worded here makes it sound like Nate handed out diss tweets back in ‘94. 😂
Yeah, I'm still confused on this one. Even though I wasn't a big fan of their music ,I'll give them a little grace if they weren't aware of Mike's medical issues at the time.
I sympathize with Mike on his medical condition but walking away from the group with no proper explanation and still expecting them to be supportive and maintain communication is a bit selfish to me.
I saw a Podcast and it was said Michael Bivens gave them a shady deal.
I don't know what happened between Boyz to men and my lil cuzn from Detroit Uncle Sam but they made some awesome music with my cuzn ❤❤❤
Oh yeah uncle sam album was dope
I miss mike he completes the group for me both are wrong on two fronts mike should have told them and they shouldn't have handle the situation that way i detect them still holding back some truth on the matters at hand i wish they would reunite still being alone isn't easy seems to me wife gone kids gone is very bad diagnosis for suicide trust i live alone i know how it feels when everything is against u stay strong mike 😃👍👊🏿🇯🇲🙏🏼
Well, I can definitely understand their frustration with Mike repeatedly missing rehearsals & performances & wanting him to sign a contract that would hold him to his word to get back in the group!!!
How do you know that's accurate ?
@@QueenAnitaSoul1
I just gave my opinion IF they are speaking facts, but if they aren’t, then Mike made the correct decision to BOUNCE! However, I’ve been in the Music Industry since 1995 & I’ve definitely heard a few negative stories about Boyz ll Men!!!
Absolutely disgusting. They’re supposed to be brothers. This is a life altering condition, mentally and of course physically. Shameful behaviour. I hope they can fix this sad situation.
How is it disgusting when he didn't tell them that he had the condition?
Nobody knows how and what MS does to you mentally and physically unless you've been through it. It probably was really hard for Mike being young dealing with this altering disease that affected his mind, body, and soul. So there's always 3 sides to a story.
Life is too short for black men.Mostly successful singers.Get back together and work this shit out.😊
What ?
I’m CERTAIN It Was Wanya Voicing Most Of That. Nate Had An Interesting Demeanor About Him As Well. I Did A Japanese, Toyota Commercial With Them And Wanya DEFINITELY Wanted Folks To Know We Were Wherever We Were At Those Particular Times. Shawn Was A Little On The Quiet Side, And Was Pretty Cool. Mike Was My Dude!!! Whenever I Decided To Walk Around In Between Shoots, He Was Like, “Where You Goin, Bro??” I’d Just Say, Walking Around, And He’d Say, “Let Me Walk With You. I Want To Get Away From This Like You Do” We Were At A Place Called, Gerard College In Philly, And They Told Us That There Were Elementary & Junior High School Children There And For Us To Be Quiet. And Here Goes, Wanya Belting Out These Loud Ass Sounds, And Some Of The Children Started Looking Out The Windows. Someone FINALLY Announced That It Was Boyz II Men, And The Children Went Crazy, Naturally. THIS MUTHA’F’ER WAVED TO THEM AND SAID, “Man, They All Over Playin Themselves” I Wanted To Hook Ol Boiii, And His Bodyguard And Mike Saw Me, And Mike Grabbed Me, Giggled And Said, “Yo, Take A Walk With Me Real Quick” He Then Said, “Man, Thats How He Acts” I’m Like, THEY ARE KIDS, FAM!!!! My Bad For The Rant..It’s My Way Of Co-Signing Kn Their Sucka Shiiiit
It’s egotistic 🤣
Not 1995.
1991 !!
So long as they don't make peace with Mike,they will never ever score another hit...fix it guys
There are no more male r&b groups or female r&b groups. R&b isn't what it used to be.
I don’t believe that the contract offers in the R&B genre are lucrative enough to support groups. When you have between 3 - 5 grown people with families all needing to eat off of a check that looks like a solo act’s check? Conflict will ensue….
I hope they get back together. That would be so so nice to see. 💕🙏🏿
I'm so disappointed, but happy to even see all four of them on the same stage,
They did not come out in 95
Wait why can’t day produce with you? So you can get most of the money.
This group had been arrogant since day 1, Michael got MS and changed his attitude. If you go see this group sing now, the only 1 that sounds the same is Wanya.
Once maturity kicks in, you realize you took a lot of things and people for granted and possibly how wrong all that was. Listening to this narrative and looking back at how I've remained a die-hard fan of this group since the early days, I feel like we are all getting past that phase and ready for the future. Mike belongs with his brothers in their group. I believe that's why he never formed or joined any other group, and neither did they. They should just squash every pending toxic issue from the past and move into the future together, enjoying what they do best. At this point, it's not even about the money anymore, same as how some of us still prefer their music and remain loyal to them...
Mmmm that hard to say
And tbh they weren't that good to me, thats why their career went downhill
😂 put the Crack down they the highest selling group all time you prob listen to Ray J thinking one wish is the best song ever foh 😂
@@calvinhamilton4393
Can’t believe you if you haven’t even done research on your statement.
They are not even in the top 20 selling groups of all time…
The Beatles are the highest selling group of all time.
So put that crystal meth down 😂
1 BEATLES
2 QUEEN
3 ABBA
4 ROLLING STONES
5 OASIS
6 TAKE THAT
7 SPICE GIRLS
8 BEE GEES
9 U2
10 STATUS QUO
11 BOYZONE
12 BLONDIE
13 BLACK EYED PEAS
14 BONEY M
15 SLADE
16 WESTLIFE
17 UB40
18 MADNESS
19 POLICE
20 WHAM!
They were good but I wasn't a big fan of their music. Their 1st alblum was OK but that's not my style of music. Dallas Austin is a huge underrated producer!!
@@calvinhamilton4393
They weren’t even in the top 20 best selling groups of all time.
Are you kidding?
1 BEATLES
2 QUEEN
3 ABBA
4 ROLLING STONES
5 OASIS
6 TAKE THAT
7 SPICE GIRLS
8 BEE GEES
9 U2
10 STATUS QUO
11 BOYZONE
12 BLONDIE
13 BLACK EYED PEAS
14 BONEY M
15 SLADE
16 WESTLIFE
17 UB40
18 MADNESS
19 POLICE
20 WHAM!
@@gerrysteven5567the was the biggest selling R&b group look it up
Like New Edition and Troop and many groups before them they brothers they were bound to work it out
No way ❤❤