How Much Power Can We Get From a 2023 Fuel Injected 125 2 Stroke?

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  • @See-through-The-Veil
    @See-through-The-Veil Рік тому +30

    I've had a fair few crossers from 80cc - 500cc since the early 80's.
    I'd say the quickest 125 I had was a 2001 Yam ( YZ125).. It literally flew, they guy I brought it from raced it, so it was dialled in.. Rapid 125...
    Unless people properly race bikes, I really don't innerstand why people would buy the newest bike out, because their not cheap....
    Most of it is down to the rider..
    Great video though, and thanks for sharing ✌🏼

    • @DoctorMotorcycle
      @DoctorMotorcycle Рік тому +6

      I too had a 2001 yz125 and the bike was an absolute ripper. Never should have sold it

    • @AjackLee4
      @AjackLee4 Рік тому +2

      Yamaha from like 97-04 is awesome

    • @tkinney80
      @tkinney80 Рік тому +5

      I had the first gen pds KTM 125, the 1998 model and rode with a bunch of buddies who had japanese machines including YZ's. None of them had a motor that would run with the KTM, they handled a little better but motor wise it was not close.

    • @gulag_dt
      @gulag_dt Рік тому +1

      nice new bike dosent have a history of abuse and halfassed maintenances

    • @chadsummers7981
      @chadsummers7981 Рік тому +1

      You ever rip a ktm 200? Rips like a 300 with out the “oh fuck” qualities of a 300. And when modified they’re quicker off a dead stop than a 250 but lack the top end that gets scary on the trail. My forever bike

  • @kevinmee3501
    @kevinmee3501 Рік тому +8

    Great video Max, Roland crunching the figures, that guy knows his stuff , he seems very down to earth. looking forward to the track tests next video Max.

  • @tcrides2137
    @tcrides2137 Рік тому +39

    I bet that TC will be smooth as a 125 can be. Look forward to the track test

  • @mozer30
    @mozer30 Рік тому +16

    I’m not going to lie….those stock figures are a bit of an anticlimax after all of the hype…especially since Roland said the atmospherics were in favour of the 23. What would the 22 figures be if it was ran on the same day? The bhp gap would increase even more.
    If Roland did the same work to the 22, pipe, piston, head and mild porting it would still smash the 23 with the same spec.

  • @TheKitchenTechnician
    @TheKitchenTechnician Рік тому +10

    Wow! I remember my 1978 Suzuki RM 125 making 22-23 HP and we all thought that was amazing. The Japanese bikes were also less peaky and more rideable than most of the Euro bikes of the day. The Cz’s, Bultaco’s and Husky’s that my friends were riding were definitely more challenging to knock off hot laps at the local track than our Japanese bikes.

  • @thorstenwanoth6774
    @thorstenwanoth6774 Рік тому +17

    my 60 year old guess would be around 33 rear wheel HP - no idea about the torque. So 264 HP/Liter. Now going to watch and see..

  • @evanolson8819
    @evanolson8819 Рік тому +2

    What was the warm up procedure on the bike? The cold start enrichment map on the ECU is very rudimentary and is purely temperature based. The bike will not exit cold start enrichment map until the water temp exceeds 50*c. This could be the reason you were struggling with the bike being rich outside of the map switch.

  • @Nordspets
    @Nordspets Рік тому +5

    I would suggest All 2-smoke fans to check out Aj Catanzaro’s 150cc Straight rhythm bike which they manage to squeeze out 48(!) horsepower out of! You can find it here on UA-cam.
    Can’t help but to miss my Husky cr125, although the 450 is much more useful in the woods and on the streets..

    • @EarthSurferUSA
      @EarthSurferUSA Рік тому +3

      48hp out of a 150 is a stretch. I own/built a water brake dyno for my little engine work. Did you know there is no real good way to calibrate them? That is why you can take the same engine package to a different dyno, and get different numbers. If they got an actual 48hp out of it,---it was not running on gasoline. 48hp is pretty good for a 250cc bike on gas. I wonder how funny his exhaust smelled? :)

    • @Nordspets
      @Nordspets Рік тому

      @@EarthSurferUSA probably smells like corn i would guess , haha

    • @scootypuffjr.
      @scootypuffjr. Рік тому

      ​@EarthSurferUSA nitromethane maybe?

    • @HoneyBadgerRy
      @HoneyBadgerRy 9 місяців тому

      I had a Husky Cr125 bored to an Eric Gore top end 144, and my 23 125 SX makes more power at every rpm. It's much easier to ride as well.

    • @orange1666
      @orange1666 8 місяців тому

      48 is realistic from a 150 , factory KTM 125’s where over 40hp decades ago and the road race 125 - 55hp !

  • @AdmV0rl0n
    @AdmV0rl0n Рік тому +3

    I kinda have questions. Back in the day, the Aprilia's in theory put out 32BHP or so, and that seems the top line. Various other 125s like the KMX might do 22BHP.
    I noted that during the run the hand was over the clutch lever in true 2 stroke style and I noticed fuel being blipped/fed in on the slow down (we might hope the fuel mapping would feed in fuel to guard against that..
    So, questions - was this bike fully run in?
    And after the £1200 spend, what kind of milage would you get prior to needing an engine rebuilt. Is this a 1000 mile engine or a 10000 mile engine?

  • @dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
    @dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 Рік тому +5

    Tuned to the bleeding edge (reed block, pipe, porting, fuel tuning perfect everywhere), it will probably make 40 at the crank. You'd want to dial it back a little to make it live in actual track use.

    • @dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
      @dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 Рік тому +6

      The harsh truth is fuel injection will do nothing for horsepower. It makes tuning faster and easier, but you will get just as much power from a carburetor. Its main benifits are slightly less emissions, and that is irrelevant an a losed-course racing bike.

    • @lifebehindtheselens
      @lifebehindtheselens Рік тому +2

      @@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 its all about smoother throttle and smooth fuel delivery

    • @Malibus_Most_Wanted
      @Malibus_Most_Wanted Рік тому

      @@lifebehindtheselens I had a throttle carbed 91 kdx200 comparable to that of a efi ktm all about tuning

    • @Oceam
      @Oceam Рік тому

      @@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 If anything it wil actually reduce power because of reduced fuel droplet size, I have a feeling the spray patterns on those are made extremely fine for emmissions

    • @SL4US
      @SL4US Рік тому

      ​@@lifebehindtheselens on a 125? 😂😂😂

  • @MrH250
    @MrH250 Рік тому +5

    Love the design of that 2023

  • @richiehoppie6945
    @richiehoppie6945 5 місяців тому

    Did you ever do the follow up ride video for this ?

  • @_WatsoBrii94_
    @_WatsoBrii94_ Рік тому +5

    I hope you guys get ahold of the 2023 tx300 and or the sx300s as well

    • @999lazer
      @999lazer  Рік тому +8

      its coming soon Brian :)

    • @_WatsoBrii94_
      @_WatsoBrii94_ Рік тому

      @@999lazer waiting to see a pro race a tricked one against 450s after seeing some ride em and confirm def 450 race competitive. Sucks AMA is stuck on politics but from what I hear you guys can run em with ?

  • @alstockford9570
    @alstockford9570 29 днів тому

    I just picked up a 2024 gasgas mc 125 . When it's time to do the top end I'm thinking the 150 kit . I'd love to see a video on that let alone any feedback 😊

  • @nokomisnichols
    @nokomisnichols 11 місяців тому

    I got the 2024 Husky TC 250. It's a fun, fast, and powerful bike.

    • @nokomisnichols
      @nokomisnichols 8 місяців тому

      @dpenduro8950 same as ktm. Same owners

  • @allgood6535
    @allgood6535 5 днів тому

    What is the workshop were it was done called would like my ktm 23 125 done

  • @evensilset5522
    @evensilset5522 Рік тому +1

    Can you guys make build for a yz125 22/23? Can it compete against a gas gas?

  • @Backyard.bandits
    @Backyard.bandits Рік тому +3

    Will these types of mods/tuning be available for the bigger bikes ?

  • @garagecedric
    @garagecedric Рік тому +4

    As long as they are available and allowed i will buy carbed 2t dirt bikes. I like tech in many cases, but not this :) especially if i don't have acess to remapping the ECU myself. If you dont drive at different altitudes all the time the benefits outside of fuel consumption/emissions are slim to none, at the moment at least. Great to see his testing thought, that was some good improvements

    • @EarthSurferUSA
      @EarthSurferUSA Рік тому +1

      Tech is properly applied, (and was developed), with free enterprise. The factories had no free market intention to push a bike to over 10 grand. That was the force from the EPA/government(s),---and that is called a dictatorship. It may eventually cost us,----everything we ever built. What we did not learn is school is the fact that free people, mostly in the USA, (the most free nation ever created by man), created free enterprise, and it is called economic fascism when government give out favors for their own political reasons, (hindering free market competition), and simply called communism when government tell us what to make and buy, and take over entire industries that free people built, (like our recently nationalized health care industry.). I say, with any rational definition, we live under a dictatorship now.

    • @lifebehindtheselens
      @lifebehindtheselens Рік тому

      The fuel injection will comp fine with different elevations

    • @madMX96
      @madMX96 Рік тому

      exactly, in UK we are good with one jetting from March to November. No rapid elevation difference either.

    • @SL4US
      @SL4US Рік тому +1

      ​@@lifebehindtheselens there is no barometric sensor on these so no it will not comp for elevation

    • @SL4US
      @SL4US Рік тому +1

      I think these new ktms are getting like 20-30 mpg anyway so fuel consumption sucks on these and there is not baro sensor to comp for elevation. I dont see any positives with this
      KTM really shot themselves in the foot going tbi on a 125sx lol. All the complexity and weight for absolutely nothing.. you can make the case for the 300 and maybe even the 250 but electric start and tbi on a 125 LMAO

  • @marklowe7431
    @marklowe7431 Рік тому

    My big question is the exhaust power valve ecu controllable? That would be the main game changer. I had a KTM 300 TPI it was insane. Husky and KTM are n the right track imo.

  • @StefanMailey
    @StefanMailey Рік тому +2

    So whats the price of a 150cc? Guessing it would be the way to go. Instead of spending extra to still not be a 150.

  • @waynepalfrey9124
    @waynepalfrey9124 Рік тому

    Is the new video coming out for the tc 125 the track test ?

  • @cookiemonster-uv6vs
    @cookiemonster-uv6vs Рік тому

    Is the bottom end now filled of oil I presume it's injected from above do you have any schematic links

  • @dannywhite132
    @dannywhite132 Рік тому

    Ive always wanted there to be a competition each year to see who can make the most power out of a single cylinder 125cc engine. they can make the engine fully from scratch but thats the goal

  • @doncasterrebuilds3716
    @doncasterrebuilds3716 Рік тому

    Have you guys done the new injected 250 yet? Would be interesting to see how that compares to the 2022 model

  • @МаксимЧебан-м6х
    @МаксимЧебан-м6х Рік тому +2

    Carburetor - 💪👍

  • @peterjohn3180
    @peterjohn3180 Рік тому

    If you can't do anything with fuelling it's a bit pointless tuning it.
    Throttle body injection is used on aftermarket car stuff, one is called megasquirt, costs about £900. You just need throttle position, rpm pulse and that's it, but engine temperature, lambda sensor could be part of the map.
    I think Athena do a direct injection kit for smaller bikes, I wonder if they could be adapted?
    Bigger throttle body?
    With thin slide/ smoothbore?
    Different reed block?
    Kitten injection?😉🤯

  • @richardpothan3198
    @richardpothan3198 Рік тому

    Hi guys,great watch,do you know if Roland can do the same package for the 23 tc250,is the hsg exhaust available yet for this model, cheers guys Richard.

    • @999lazer
      @999lazer  Рік тому +1

      I know he has the pipe already as we are shooting a test with it this week :)

  • @AAs-vb7pv
    @AAs-vb7pv Рік тому +5

    Maico 700cc 2 stroke with fuel injection get one of them on here with upgrade s and good pipe and that :) would love to see that 70+hp

  • @Jimmy_Watt
    @Jimmy_Watt Рік тому +1

    Very good stuff here, boys. Thanks for the entertainment.

  • @williammuir638
    @williammuir638 Рік тому

    What's the torque at rear wheel? That's what really matters.

  • @someoneelse7629
    @someoneelse7629 Рік тому +1

    There is a guy in Sweden remapping them, and with good result too.

  • @brankokruskovic-dg3nd
    @brankokruskovic-dg3nd Рік тому

    Which piston l need 125 to juse?

  • @lemdeguzman8912
    @lemdeguzman8912 Рік тому

    since they are fuel injected, do they still need a premix? does the gasoline still live in the crank case?

    • @felixwankel3989
      @felixwankel3989 Рік тому +1

      Yes to both! Efi does not equal adequate oil injection

  • @poucxs9246
    @poucxs9246 Рік тому

    please can someone explain to me if there is a reason why he revs it at the end of the run?

    • @taylorlatch2635
      @taylorlatch2635 Рік тому

      I'm not exactly sure, I've seen people do this a lot... maybe for fun? Lol. Unless they are trying to keep oil fed into the cylinder while it's at high rpm's, since all the oil is in the fuel. Granted these bikes and many other 2 strokes besides those crappy 2 stroke cars made in the 1940s should be just fine engine braking without oil being fed. Maybe he just wants to add that extra bit of life to the bike haha.

  • @catalickconverta6823
    @catalickconverta6823 Рік тому

    I used to have a 05 yz125 an that was well fast on top end on tarmac miss that bike i made it mint sold it for 2000 and the guy who brought it off me listed it as a 09 had it up for 2500 cheeky or what

  • @Flickmon212
    @Flickmon212 Рік тому +17

    Carb is king 🏍️💨

    • @thodieousk5853
      @thodieousk5853 Рік тому +1

      That’s why the gasgas has the same motor, but is carbureted and faster!

    • @SL4US
      @SL4US Рік тому +1

      Tbi is kinda a garbage idea for a 2 stroke. Just look at all the old 2 stoke GP bikes and the millions they poured into development. Most teams still used carbs. The successful ones anyway

    • @505mylife
      @505mylife Рік тому +3

      Nah the 2024s are all fixes

    • @MotoXplorer159
      @MotoXplorer159 Рік тому +1

      Personally I prefer fuel injection tbh

    • @jared8324
      @jared8324 10 місяців тому +2

      Not really, when they are able to open up the computer and map it, these 2 strokes will be making more hp up top, and the fuel injected bike makes more power across the lower Rpms, so coming out of corners and such it’s going to be better than the carbed bikes once they start tuning them

  • @skyhawk409
    @skyhawk409 Рік тому

    What a lemon with the 3 hp pipe and port job .

  • @cmora316
    @cmora316 Рік тому

    great vid guys. What fuel? vp? leaded? Thanks

    • @999lazer
      @999lazer  Рік тому +1

      In the test it was running 99 octane unleaded (pump fuel)

  • @charlesclapper8982
    @charlesclapper8982 Рік тому

    Where can I get this kit

    • @999lazer
      @999lazer  Рік тому

      www.motocrossdirect.co.uk and talk to Roland

  • @mrburn6119
    @mrburn6119 Рік тому +3

    will be interesting to see how the crank holds up, after these mods and after a remap

  • @juomahullu
    @juomahullu Рік тому

    can you do this same whit a 250 4 stroke:)

  • @bananas401k
    @bananas401k Рік тому +1

    im really surprised at how little power that made from the factory, my kx125 from 1986 makes that same power and torque

    • @marksmith1676
      @marksmith1676 Рік тому +5

      That will most likely be factory readings from the crank.

    • @scootypuffjr.
      @scootypuffjr. Рік тому

      No. No it does not.

    • @bananas401k
      @bananas401k Рік тому

      @@scootypuffjr. dyno tested it today 36hp to the wheel

    • @scootypuffjr.
      @scootypuffjr. Рік тому

      @@bananas401k every dyno is different. Comparisons only work on the same dyno.

    • @stevenbusk539
      @stevenbusk539 6 місяців тому

      From a 1986 KX125? Id be interested in seeing the graph, as I have a 125 trail bike that has an engine very heavily based on the 86 KX, but de-tuned somewhat.

  • @hrsey71
    @hrsey71 Рік тому +3

    check out AJ Catanzaros Cr125.. hes pushing 45HP! he said its the fastest bike hes ever ridden

    • @TheShift1313
      @TheShift1313 Рік тому +1

      Which is a ktm150. Had pv work. Porting. Top end. Pipe etc. Was a shocking power figure!

    • @hrsey71
      @hrsey71 Рік тому

      @@TheShift1313 ya! Amazing bike

    • @zacharycrockett9884
      @zacharycrockett9884 Рік тому +3

      Yes while it was an insane number 45 hp isn't a fair figure to compare to this dyno every dyno is different so it's more important to know that dyno numbers. That cr150 is amazing and these 23 125s are amazing not fined tuned yet but can be amazing

  • @craighills2382
    @craighills2382 Рік тому

    Do you think the YZ 125 is still worth the buy ? , you said you loved the YZ 125 motor. I spent a stack $4.500 on my YZ 2022
    I have not ridden yet , Got the longer Rod Pison porting through Rolland HGS pipe VHM head ECU Dyno at wheel 38 good riding HP he says ? Otherwise ill not ride and sell to have more a Brand new bike sale so to speak

  • @rodneysteffen6376
    @rodneysteffen6376 Рік тому

    Question - what is a 12 degree piston?

    • @dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
      @dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 Рік тому +2

      12° dome

    • @sonniemee-harris9855
      @sonniemee-harris9855 Рік тому

      The edge of the piston is angled at 12 degrees but you need to buy the VHM head and insert to suit the piston dome pistons have flat top with a 12 degree edge some pistons are domed with a 12 degree edge

  • @ragnarironspear1791
    @ragnarironspear1791 Рік тому +1

    Are they not all made under the same umbrella company like Gas Gas, KTM , Husky?

    • @999lazer
      @999lazer  Рік тому +4

      they are all part of the same company but the 2023 gasgas is not fuel injected

    • @EarthSurferUSA
      @EarthSurferUSA Рік тому +1

      Yea, that is new business today. Instead of a company going out of business, KTM buys them up, (for example). But the competition is still gone.
      That is one thing I have not become sure of in economics, if merging is ethical. I know we have the right to do it, but if there was not any government force on the industry, new companies could start up with out being tax payer subsidized like electric bikes, (and never make a profit, so it is a drain of our opportunity.). I guess it depends if government force is ethical on our industries that free people built. What do you think? I think if it eliminates real competition with use of government force/regulations, it has to be unethical.

  • @Thereal_801
    @Thereal_801 Рік тому

    I do think that part of the reason it is down power could be that the husky had a more restrictive airbox.

    • @SL4US
      @SL4US Рік тому

      It is down on power. Tbi is a joke. Just ask anyone who bought it about the countless mapping issues and low hp numbers on a dyno

  • @SiR2Dean
    @SiR2Dean Рік тому +3

    Would it be fair to say once remapping is available and therefore fueling adjustments, these bikes have the potential to not necessarily rewrite the 2t performance handbook but certainly make a vast improvement? With a carb setup, you'd just rejet it, but as the software isn't available yet for these, fueling is very much static set by factory. So I'd like to think the future looks very bright for two strokes.

  • @davidkallstrom4349
    @davidkallstrom4349 Рік тому +1

    Please test the 300cc

  • @hyslopboys9600
    @hyslopboys9600 Рік тому

    I wish there was a package for a 2023 TC 250

  • @Ryan-hw4ug
    @Ryan-hw4ug Рік тому +1

    The new 23 down 3 hp to the 22? I seriously doubt that.

  • @macca1718
    @macca1718 Рік тому

    Back in the 90’s 125 2 stoke motocross bikes according to spec’s put out about 37 hp. So 30 years later and the bikes make less power.
    Nothin like that narrow band of the old mx’s

  • @fugginrambo
    @fugginrambo Рік тому +2

    My guess on a real Dyno would be around 35. The magazines and their low 40 horsepower is bullshit.

  • @lukecowell7516
    @lukecowell7516 Рік тому

    Is that 36 wheel or crank hp??

    • @EarthSurferUSA
      @EarthSurferUSA Рік тому +1

      Have you ever seen an engine dyno for dirt bikes? I would bet the factories made their own, but everybody else is using a roller/chassis dyno, because it is way more difficult to hook up different engines alone to a dyno. Even so, dynos have no real calibration that I have ever found for either type. That is why a different dyno will most likely post different numbers from the same engine set up. I bought a Land and Sea water brake dyno for my little engines, and built the drive system for a engine dyno. But I really had no idea if it was displaying the actual torque. But the stock engine does have hp/rpm in the owners manual (with no exhaust pipe/can, no exhaust at all and no air filter.), so I ran the stock engine, and adjust my "efficiency loss factor" in the software to match the 2.8hp at 12,500 rpm that the manual claims. It did peak power at the 12,500 rpm claim, so that was good to see from the Japanese built engine (Zenoah), now owned by Husky.
      That is the best for calibration I could do, (trust the engine manufacture). I have never seen a good way to calibrate a dyno, but some can be so simple, (direct drive inertia dyno's.), that if designed properly, will be accurate as soon as you put it together. I measured the same engine on a inertia dyno a old boss of mine made. The manual said 2.8hp. I got 2.78hp.

    • @lukecowell7516
      @lukecowell7516 Рік тому

      @EarthSurferUSA I didn't ask for a life story which I didn't read
      Was just a simple answer wheel or crank hp
      As rollers can work out crank hp

  • @2tsuprem
    @2tsuprem Рік тому

    The first run with no weight on the rear, maybe slipping on the dyno?

    • @EarthSurferUSA
      @EarthSurferUSA Рік тому

      If they can't figure that out, what makes anybody think they are qualified for this test?

  • @zxcvbnmnz
    @zxcvbnmnz Рік тому

    Power loss from the bigger stator needed to run all those electrical gizmos.

  • @willemdeysel1766
    @willemdeysel1766 Рік тому

    like your vid,,,im looking for a pipe for my 1999 kx125 please,,in africa no parts

  • @Akib-Ali007
    @Akib-Ali007 Рік тому

    Roland’s a G

  • @nickcook7408
    @nickcook7408 Рік тому

    CR250 with big carb & tuned pipe and small front cog is still the best 2 stroke outside of a 500cc gp bike.
    RS250 were fun but not amazing.
    Emissions laws are killingn2 stroke

  • @EarthSurferUSA
    @EarthSurferUSA Рік тому +1

    I can get 40hp out of a 125 running on gas with a carb,---but you guys would not be able to ride it well on a MX track other than the wide open smooth straights today. You would stall it a lot everywhere else. I think it is still true that a 2-stroke can make twice the power of a 2-stroke of equal displacement, but for drag racing, not for MX where you need throttle control,---and clutch talent.

    • @EarthSurferUSA
      @EarthSurferUSA Рік тому +1

      I think it is still true that a 2-stroke can make twice the power of a "4" stroke of equal displacement

    • @KacKLaPPeN23
      @KacKLaPPeN23 Рік тому

      @@EarthSurferUSA I don't believe that twice the power is possible as the 4 strokes still have cleaner scavenging. I'm pretty sure Yamaha's famous "1.6x" was pretty close to the actual difference in performance per given displacement.

  • @kerrynball2734
    @kerrynball2734 Рік тому

    are we honestly that soft we can't kick start 125s anymore ??

  • @5thgearpinned450
    @5thgearpinned450 Рік тому +1

    I wanna see ypu guys get a 250 2 stroke to 50 whp maybe more if that’s possible without getting too crazy

    • @EarthSurferUSA
      @EarthSurferUSA Рік тому +2

      It has been done and raced many times. But they need expensive race gas, so 44-47 is about the production limit today. Good porting matched with a good pipe with high compression on race fuel, and you are there.

    • @VitaliyKhomich
      @VitaliyKhomich Рік тому +1

      Bone stock '02 & '03 KTM 250SX engine were putting out 50 hp while Japanese 250s were around 43-45 hp

  • @phatheadracingmx
    @phatheadracingmx Рік тому

    32.5 on my dyno

  • @vinceking7878
    @vinceking7878 Рік тому

    Shouldn't the bike be remapped to the mods?

    • @bobdillon2642
      @bobdillon2642 Рік тому +2

      If it was already running rich it should be all good now

  • @craighills2382
    @craighills2382 Рік тому

    Got rod and piston not porting through Rollland typed it inccorrectly sorry

  • @MAXlMUS
    @MAXlMUS Рік тому

    Motorcycle dyno operator - the bravest man I've seen in my life

  • @jonathanneels8710
    @jonathanneels8710 Рік тому +2

    my 2004 RM 125 makes 41 hp!!!!!!!! stock!

  • @sixhunt
    @sixhunt Рік тому

    wow thats alot of work for a few hp.

  • @HutchSco
    @HutchSco Рік тому

    What about the 450s

  • @poullinneberg1876
    @poullinneberg1876 Рік тому

    2 hp down on carb moddel just loke the 4 strokes in 09

  • @coalblest3018
    @coalblest3018 9 місяців тому

    3hp? I’d find a new tuner

  • @jacktheripper-hp9tx
    @jacktheripper-hp9tx Рік тому

    when something works perfect
    and then some moron says lets but some wires on it to mess it all up

  • @nickwukmir9853
    @nickwukmir9853 Рік тому

    Fual injection dosen't make as much h.p. as carb.remaping would help.

  • @AussieBassplayer
    @AussieBassplayer Рік тому

    If you can't even map it for fuel or ignition why bother even fitting parts to it.

  • @tylersvensson4468
    @tylersvensson4468 Рік тому

    I love Roland but no way in hell is a bike coming out the factory at 37hp gonna dyno at 33hp. But to find 3hp just from a port job, vhm head, map change and a hgs system is ridiculous gonna get more then that surely

    • @EarthSurferUSA
      @EarthSurferUSA Рік тому +1

      Dyno's are not calibrated, and will get different results. Plus, 33hp at the wheel of a 125 was slow about 30 years ago for a modified bike.

    • @strangelove9608
      @strangelove9608 Рік тому +1

      Dynos can only really be compared to themselves, unfortunately. And 3 hp sounds small but in percentage terms its a ten percent improvment which is pretty good for the kinda money they mentioned. As a an ex racer back in the day if you gave me one hp over every one else I would be a very happy bunny 8)

  • @dennismillus4581
    @dennismillus4581 Рік тому

    Are you actually going to post and share the actual numbers this time? Unlike your YZ500 video

  • @yiannishayabusaofficial
    @yiannishayabusaofficial Рік тому +1

    AWESOME AMAZING SUPERB TOP

  • @eric6rock
    @eric6rock Рік тому

    Bike pulls just enough still arm ripping.
    But beware do NOT put this bike on GREEN MAP!
    It fouled my spark plug and bummer too parts are not available as of yet 😐
    It costed me a riding trip

  • @vtecmossy
    @vtecmossy Рік тому

    Husky and gas gas will always get the scrapes from the ktm r and d otherwise it will make the orange bike look bad if the other ones get faster

  • @jshepherd9359
    @jshepherd9359 Рік тому

    Fact is a slide throttle body will always flow air better than a butterfly throttle body. This is why these FI bikes will never make more HP than a slide carb. UNLESS they put a slide TB on the FI bikes. Which they won't ever do. Your welcome.

  • @taylorhappe4212
    @taylorhappe4212 Рік тому +2

    Why you keep calling it a one two five here in America we call them a one twenty five! You sound like you're from London 😂

    • @Scissors69
      @Scissors69 Рік тому +1

      Someone might ask why you don’t say “one hundred and twenty five” you say the 25 in full, why not the 100?

    • @taylorhappe4212
      @taylorhappe4212 Рік тому

      @@Scissors69 the same reason you call a 250 a two fifty you wouldn't call a 500 a five zero zero

    • @tonn333
      @tonn333 Рік тому

      @@taylorhappe4212 and what would you call this reason? Preference perhaps?

  • @katiestephens186
    @katiestephens186 Рік тому

    All that for 3hp 😱

    • @strangelove9608
      @strangelove9608 Рік тому

      10 percent improvment aint bad 8) , at the racing level it all helps !

  • @gulag_dt
    @gulag_dt Рік тому

    ohhh boy has electric powervalves ever worked without problems 😂😂

  • @SL4US
    @SL4US Рік тому

    People really bought into the hype lol. On a 1st year production no less

  • @johndaroza2987
    @johndaroza2987 Рік тому

    Carburetor vs fuel injection at top in full open Carburators are the same has fuel injection no benefits going to fuel injection.
    Only better low in power.
    The 125 that's built will make 45hp.
    End of story.

    • @taylorlatch2635
      @taylorlatch2635 Рік тому

      The biggest problem with mx 2 strokes though is their usable power. Fuel injection should help that as more maps are developed, plus the default bonus of better fuel atomization. The other 2 stroke problem was lack of over-rev, which I'm not sure what the solution would be. 250f you can rev for very long without shifting, 2t you have to make sure you're in the perfect gear.

  • @kramler
    @kramler Рік тому

    I'm amazed that American's can say ktm, and kawasaki correctly, but not Husqvarna. Its Hus-kvar-na, not Hus-ka-var-na

  • @leonshepherd7059
    @leonshepherd7059 Рік тому

    Be abit more realistic if he sat on it to press the tyre onto the roller and if he put a really hard road tyre on because what idiot dynos a bike like that ?

  • @da5863
    @da5863 Рік тому

    Dyno reads very low

  • @lot6129
    @lot6129 Рік тому

    Just buy a 250, SOLVED

  • @Mostviews111
    @Mostviews111 Рік тому

    Not very much gains for the cost definitely not worth it.

  • @riderrider8683
    @riderrider8683 Рік тому

    i have more in my gpr 125 2t lol

  • @swecreations
    @swecreations Рік тому

    Well fuel injection on snowmobiles is the standard nowadays, so I have no doubt it will become that here too.

  • @tessbushell5489
    @tessbushell5489 Рік тому

    😍

  • @jimmiebuckler997
    @jimmiebuckler997 Рік тому

    Taking away the simplicity of a two stroke maybe?

  • @propacollector3499
    @propacollector3499 3 місяці тому

    2025 gasgas is good

  • @dennismillus4581
    @dennismillus4581 Рік тому +1

    Seems to have higher torque than a 250f 4puke.

    • @vaughanhodgson
      @vaughanhodgson Рік тому

      There is no way

    • @dennismillus4581
      @dennismillus4581 Рік тому

      @Vaughan Hodgon want to some money on that.

    • @dennismillus4581
      @dennismillus4581 Рік тому

      @@vaughanhodgson check out the Dirt Rider dyno video. Of a 2022 KTM 250sxf..

    • @vaughanhodgson
      @vaughanhodgson Рік тому +1

      @@dennismillus4581 ??? First of all this video is showing hp not torque and You can't compare 2 different dynos and u have to be foolish to think a 125 makes more torque. A 250f would make boat loads more torque throughout the rev range

    • @dennismillus4581
      @dennismillus4581 Рік тому

      @Vaughan Hodgon your wrong just wrong about the Torque numbers. Fact check yourself...

  • @propacollector3499
    @propacollector3499 Рік тому

    i here the pistins dont last

    • @tonn333
      @tonn333 Рік тому

      Nothing lasts here nor there... Why would pistins be any different?

  • @allgood6535
    @allgood6535 5 днів тому

    Completely stock with a hgs pipe 😂😂😂

  • @straighttimestirrups
    @straighttimestirrups Рік тому

    The GasGas and KTM’s look awesome and the Husky looks like the aftermath of eating eggs and chili! How can they produce such a turd in the aesthetics with these Husky’s?

    • @tonn333
      @tonn333 Рік тому

      Hmm I like Husqvarnas more out the three.