Great job David! Glad our video was helpful. Assume the Amp Tuning Guide helped as well? If so, all you need is to get that radio flashed and you're good to go. Here's a list of dealers that can help you with that: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1344
The amp tuning was easy as well. Yes, I just need to get it flashed. I've found a shop but I have make an appointment. By not having it flashed, will it hurts the speakers or overload the system?
@@hotboi813 Awesome! Glad that tuning guide helped. The radio has a massive +28 dB boost at 100 Hz ... which means anything over low-to-moderate listening will burn up the speakers in a matter of time. Running without the radio flash isn't an option. Until you can get the bike in, it's all about keeping you and your family safe. I know a lot of automotive / motorcycle dealers are going the extra mile to wipe down everything to keep customers safe, so that's great to hear.
Absolutely@@gregcamp9094, in fact we prefer to do it that way. It won't hurt anything and it will be ready when you do the install. Be certain they use the "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes" flash as there are several available.
I wish I better understood that the factory eq curve needs to be reprogrammed or removed. An amp cant handle eq settings? I already had my dealer make the eq curve for 'rockford fosgate aftermarket' but would like to better understand why I had to do that.
Hi P4T, I wrote a small tech brief about this where you can visualize the EQ curve (see below). The main issue is there is +28 dB at 100 Hz. This is O.K. for low powered systems, but when you amplify that amount of gain, it's equivalent to quadrupling power at that frequency. This would be similar to installing 4 turbos on 1 cylinder of an engine and expecting it to operate just fine at high RPM. This EQ configuration for the radio was designed by the previous auto-sound designer for Harley-Davidson. This is why H-D approached Rockford Fosgate to redesign their factory equipped systems. We wiped that EQ curve out and started from scratch. This is exactly what we're doing on your bike, we remove it and start with a baseline curve which is easier to amplifier without blowing up your speakers. Here's that tech article: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1215/
@@rockfordfosgate you mention that HD dealers can no longer do this. I asked at my dealer and they put in aftermarket RF tune. He said there were several eq curves for him to flash, he chose that one based on me telling him that I was going to put the RF 400w marine amplifier in.
@@BBD40 It depends on what type of flasher they are using. Some H-D dealerships also use the standalone TechnoResearch flasher which makes this possible. Using the TechnoResearch flasher, we recommend the "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes" flash. If they are using their H-D DigitalTech hardware, the best option is "2 Speakers Upper Fairing / 1 Amp" setting. Both are similarly "flat", but the Rockford Fosgate tune has a little more lower end for the saddlebags.
first, let me say thank you for doing the video and for not showing EVERY bolt removal. If we are attempting this we SHOULD know how to remove the saddlebag, gas tank ETC. So that is great you did not cover all that. I have a unique bike question. I have an 18 HD road glide Ultra but there is no tour pack speakers, only saddlebag lid speakers ( we added a chopped tour pack with no speakers). Lid speakers are RF with no amp. I would like to upgrade the fairing speakers with RF and add a 4 channel AMP to run all 4 speakers. So my question is, which Amp ( roughly 400 watts will work), which fairing speakers, and more importantly, do I need any additional wiring harnesses? It seems that I do not but before I take this sucker apart I wanted to confirm.
Hi Angelo, Thank you for your feedback! We would recommend the TMS65 speakers, TM400X4ad amplifier, and the RFK-HD14 amp wiring kit. All these parts are included in the HD14RGSG-STAGE2 kit that can be found here: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/HD14RGSG-STAGE2/
I’m looking into doing the Stage 1 Rockford Fosgate upgrade, but with the Stage 2 speakers. I was told the amp installs in the saddlebag, but this video shows it being installed behind the fairing. Is this an old product? Is there a video for the amp I’m supposed to install in the saddlebag?
Hi Sweetmeat (very clever name), Are you referring to the "Harley-Davidson Audio Powered by Rockford Fosgate" solutions? That is a "factory installed" system that can be purchased through your local Harley-Davidson dealership. This video is for our "aftermarket" audio kit. The two systems are completely different in the way they are installed, setup, and tuned.
You can flash either way. We suggest before so you can start rockin' out once the system is done. If you flash after, DO NOT play the system loud or you will burn-up speakers.
Local Harley shop says it takes an hour to flash the radio but it’s around $30… does that sound right? Sounds like a long time just to flash the radio and cheap
Harley shops vary the price and $30 does seem like a deal, but if you purchased the product from them, sounds like they are offering you a discounted rate. The actual process once the bike is in front of the technician is around 10-15 mins, but I know a lot of shops charge an hour minimum shop rate. If they have the Techno-Research Flasher, verify they are going to use the "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes" setting. Dealers also remove the fairing to double check the amplifier settings. You can download the "Amp Tuning Guide" for your model here: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1355/
Just finished the install on my 2021 roadglide. Turned everything on for a low volume sound check, and I have sound from fairing speakers but hiss from bag speaker. Is this normal before the flash(getting flashed tomorrow shop is closed). Also great video. Made the install go really smooth.
Hi Scias013, no this is not normal. FIRST, double check the AMPLIFIER INPUT/OUTPUT HARNESSES are properly "seated" in the connectors. Remove each molex connector and pull each individual wire in the molex to be sure the wire is "seated" properly in the connector. If any wire pulls out of the molex connector, push that wire back into connector until you hear a tiny [click]. This should fix your problem. If not .... SECOND, switch the harnesses on the INPUT side of the amplifier. Plug the FRONT harness into the REAR AMP INPUT and plug the REAR harness into the FRONT AMP INPUT. Check to see if the noise changes from the baglid speakers to the fairing speakers. Let me know what happens here.
Thank you for doing video. Im consider ing to buy this kit for my 2020 road glide special. Is this can fit for my HD? And could you let me know how to do flash my factory radio to use this kit?
Awesome! Yes, the HD14RGSG-STAGE3 is designed for use on a 2002 Road Glide Special. We recommend taking your motorcycle to an Authorized Dealer that can flash since the Flasher is an $800 tool. We have a list of dealers that can flash below: - HD14RGSG-STAGE3: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/HD14RGSG-STAGE3/ - DEALERS THAT FLASH: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1344
Great Question Jose! You can purchase the RFK-HD14 Amplifier Mounting and T-harness Kit, which is available separately (link below): RFK-HD14 www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/rfk-hd14/
Were you able to get your radio reception fixed? What type of antenna do you have on your Road Glide? Is this the standard "passive" or upgraded "powered" antenna?
If you purchase the kit from the dealer and they do the installation, most everyone will flash the radio free of charge. If you purchase from another dealer (or direct from us) and do the install on your own, yes they will charge you. You can find a list of dealers that flash here: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1344/
Rockford Fosgate amps are notoriously known for being under-rated, and the TM400X4ad actually produces 560+ watts and can easily run an 8-speaker system. Here are a couple unbiased videos that illustrate how powerful these small amplifiers really are: TM750X1bd Sister Model Amp Dyno: ua-cam.com/video/FjfFVlDxj-M/v-deo.html TM400X4ad on a Street Glide Special: ua-cam.com/video/6bfQunoc5k4/v-deo.html
All US pricing is listed on our website here: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd14rgsg-stage3/ If you're outside the USA, you'll want to contact a local Authorized Rockford Fosgate dealer:
If you already have the HD14RGSG-STAGE3 kit, the turn-on is the blue wire on the main harness that plugs into the brake side. You'll remove an empty connector to plug-in the blue wire that will allow the motorcycle voltage to turn-on the amplifier. If you're asking where you can purchase the cabling for the remote turn-on wire, this is included in our RFK-HD14 kit available here: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/rfk-hd14/
@@jon010685 Thanks Jonathan for that information. Correct, the PBR300X4 does not come with an H-D connector, only the motorcycle audio specific kits do.
Hi Chad, our support agents reply to emails within 24 hours. Just confirming you used our support site at www.rockfordfosgate.com/support . Also, our form recommends a suggested answer for faster service ... and sometimes people forget to click the FINISH SUBMITTING EMAIL button. Anyhoo, what was your question on the flash? We assume this is for a 14+ motorcycle using the GT, GT 6.5, or GTS radio. All 3 of them we suggest using the "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes" flash.
this kit sucks I bought the stage 3 kit for my 03 roadglide and had a shop install it and in town I have the volume at 40 and I can't hear it on the freeway im 100% disappointed not worth the 2800 dollars I spent
Hi Cody, I read on your other msg that the installer didn’t use the quick disconnects we include in the kit, so I’m curious about the installation. There is a tuning guide for proper setup that we tend to see installers ignore. There are 2 important settings, 1) the radio pre-tune setup and 2) the amplifier settings. Here is the reference sheet for the tuning guide: www.rockfordfosgate.com/rnt/rnw/docs/1355/harleyamptuning_1998-2013_rfk-hd9813.pdf
@@rockfordfosgate I've done all of that all ready I downloaded this and adjusted it according to your settings and still no difference I've spoke with your technical support team and they told me to adjust the settings and I did and still can't hear it on the freeway and my wife can't hear it either when she is on the back maybe I just got a bad system or something
@@codyharris7288 I appreciate your time to double check the settings and working with our technical support. The only customers we hear saying it’s not loud enough are those without the proper radio preset and amplifier tune. I’m really at a loss because typically it’s more than loud enough… by chance, what are you using for your source material? Radio, USB, Bluetooth?
@@rockfordfosgate I'm using the pmx98-13 deck with Bluetooth I've tried it with different phones and with just the radio and USB and I adjusted the pre sets in the deck according to your Tec
@@codyharris7288 Following back up since I've been out of the office. Another thing I was thinking about is we see Bluetooth phone settings that have a big difference in audio loudness: iOS > Settings > Music - AUDIO > Cellular Streaming > High Quality - AUDIO > EQ > Off - AUDIO > Sound Check > Off It would be worth testing audio loudness by using music loaded onto a USB Drive so we have a different music source.
Just finished and completed this install myself on my 2019 RG. Took me about 6 hours, it was pretty easy. Just followed the directions.
Great job David! Glad our video was helpful. Assume the Amp Tuning Guide helped as well? If so, all you need is to get that radio flashed and you're good to go. Here's a list of dealers that can help you with that: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1344
The amp tuning was easy as well. Yes, I just need to get it flashed. I've found a shop but I have make an appointment. By not having it flashed, will it hurts the speakers or overload the system?
@@hotboi813 Awesome! Glad that tuning guide helped. The radio has a massive +28 dB boost at 100 Hz ... which means anything over low-to-moderate listening will burn up the speakers in a matter of time. Running without the radio flash isn't an option. Until you can get the bike in, it's all about keeping you and your family safe. I know a lot of automotive / motorcycle dealers are going the extra mile to wipe down everything to keep customers safe, so that's great to hear.
Rockford Fosgate is it possible to flash the radio before the install?
Absolutely@@gregcamp9094, in fact we prefer to do it that way. It won't hurt anything and it will be ready when you do the install. Be certain they use the "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes" flash as there are several available.
I wish I better understood that the factory eq curve needs to be reprogrammed or removed. An amp cant handle eq settings? I already had my dealer make the eq curve for 'rockford fosgate aftermarket' but would like to better understand why I had to do that.
Hi P4T, I wrote a small tech brief about this where you can visualize the EQ curve (see below). The main issue is there is +28 dB at 100 Hz. This is O.K. for low powered systems, but when you amplify that amount of gain, it's equivalent to quadrupling power at that frequency. This would be similar to installing 4 turbos on 1 cylinder of an engine and expecting it to operate just fine at high RPM. This EQ configuration for the radio was designed by the previous auto-sound designer for Harley-Davidson. This is why H-D approached Rockford Fosgate to redesign their factory equipped systems. We wiped that EQ curve out and started from scratch. This is exactly what we're doing on your bike, we remove it and start with a baseline curve which is easier to amplifier without blowing up your speakers. Here's that tech article: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1215/
@@rockfordfosgate you mention that HD dealers can no longer do this. I asked at my dealer and they put in aftermarket RF tune. He said there were several eq curves for him to flash, he chose that one based on me telling him that I was going to put the RF 400w marine amplifier in.
@@BBD40 It depends on what type of flasher they are using. Some H-D dealerships also use the standalone TechnoResearch flasher which makes this possible. Using the TechnoResearch flasher, we recommend the "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes" flash. If they are using their H-D DigitalTech hardware, the best option is "2 Speakers Upper Fairing / 1 Amp" setting. Both are similarly "flat", but the Rockford Fosgate tune has a little more lower end for the saddlebags.
first, let me say thank you for doing the video and for not showing EVERY bolt removal. If we are attempting this we SHOULD know how to remove the saddlebag, gas tank ETC. So that is great you did not cover all that. I have a unique bike question. I have an 18 HD road glide Ultra but there is no tour pack speakers, only saddlebag lid speakers ( we added a chopped tour pack with no speakers). Lid speakers are RF with no amp. I would like to upgrade the fairing speakers with RF and add a 4 channel AMP to run all 4 speakers. So my question is, which Amp ( roughly 400 watts will work), which fairing speakers, and more importantly, do I need any additional wiring harnesses? It seems that I do not but before I take this sucker apart I wanted to confirm.
Hi Angelo, Thank you for your feedback! We would recommend the TMS65 speakers, TM400X4ad amplifier, and the RFK-HD14 amp wiring kit. All these parts are included in the HD14RGSG-STAGE2 kit that can be found here: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/HD14RGSG-STAGE2/
I’m looking into doing the Stage 1 Rockford Fosgate upgrade, but with the Stage 2 speakers. I was told the amp installs in the saddlebag, but this video shows it being installed behind the fairing. Is this an old product? Is there a video for the amp I’m supposed to install in the saddlebag?
Hi Sweetmeat (very clever name), Are you referring to the "Harley-Davidson Audio Powered by Rockford Fosgate" solutions? That is a "factory installed" system that can be purchased through your local Harley-Davidson dealership. This video is for our "aftermarket" audio kit. The two systems are completely different in the way they are installed, setup, and tuned.
Can I flash after installing or I have to do it before?
You can flash either way. We suggest before so you can start rockin' out once the system is done. If you flash after, DO NOT play the system loud or you will burn-up speakers.
Rockford Fosgate that’s what I figured thanks for getting back
Local Harley shop says it takes an hour to flash the radio but it’s around $30… does that sound right? Sounds like a long time just to flash the radio and cheap
Harley shops vary the price and $30 does seem like a deal, but if you purchased the product from them, sounds like they are offering you a discounted rate. The actual process once the bike is in front of the technician is around 10-15 mins, but I know a lot of shops charge an hour minimum shop rate. If they have the Techno-Research Flasher, verify they are going to use the "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes" setting. Dealers also remove the fairing to double check the amplifier settings. You can download the "Amp Tuning Guide" for your model here: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1355/
Just finished the install on my 2021 roadglide. Turned everything on for a low volume sound check, and I have sound from fairing speakers but hiss from bag speaker. Is this normal before the flash(getting flashed tomorrow shop is closed).
Also great video. Made the install go really smooth.
Hi Scias013, no this is not normal. FIRST, double check the AMPLIFIER INPUT/OUTPUT HARNESSES are properly "seated" in the connectors. Remove each molex connector and pull each individual wire in the molex to be sure the wire is "seated" properly in the connector. If any wire pulls out of the molex connector, push that wire back into connector until you hear a tiny [click]. This should fix your problem. If not .... SECOND, switch the harnesses on the INPUT side of the amplifier. Plug the FRONT harness into the REAR AMP INPUT and plug the REAR harness into the FRONT AMP INPUT. Check to see if the noise changes from the baglid speakers to the fairing speakers. Let me know what happens here.
i guess I'm kinda randomly asking but does anyone know a good place to stream new series online?
@Zander Alijah I would suggest flixportal. Just search on google for it :)
@Tristan Ephraim Thank you, signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there =) I really appreciate it!
@Zander Alijah no problem :D
Thank you for doing video. Im consider ing to buy this kit for my 2020 road glide special. Is this can fit for my HD? And could you let me know how to do flash my factory radio to use this kit?
Awesome! Yes, the HD14RGSG-STAGE3 is designed for use on a 2002 Road Glide Special. We recommend taking your motorcycle to an Authorized Dealer that can flash since the Flasher is an $800 tool. We have a list of dealers that can flash below:
- HD14RGSG-STAGE3: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/HD14RGSG-STAGE3/
- DEALERS THAT FLASH: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1344
I had the old kit for a 2019 FLTRXS. Can I only get the T-harness so I can get the fade function or I have to buy the whole new kit???? Thank you.
Great Question Jose! You can purchase the RFK-HD14 Amplifier Mounting and T-harness Kit, which is available separately (link below):
RFK-HD14
www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/rfk-hd14/
I had this installed and lost all radio channels. What does Rockford have to get my radio Channels back
What type of radio antenna do you have on your Road Glide?
Were you able to get your radio reception fixed? What type of antenna do you have on your Road Glide? Is this the standard "passive" or upgraded "powered" antenna?
No power on amp after install. Any suggestions?
You'll need to plug the BLUE remote turn-on wire to the accessory turn-on connector.
Will the dealer charge me to get the radio flashed???
If you purchase the kit from the dealer and they do the installation, most everyone will flash the radio free of charge. If you purchase from another dealer (or direct from us) and do the install on your own, yes they will charge you. You can find a list of dealers that flash here: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1344/
only 400 watts for 4 to 6 speakers???
Rockford Fosgate amps are notoriously known for being under-rated, and the TM400X4ad actually produces 560+ watts and can easily run an 8-speaker system. Here are a couple unbiased videos that illustrate how powerful these small amplifiers really are:
TM750X1bd Sister Model Amp Dyno: ua-cam.com/video/FjfFVlDxj-M/v-deo.html
TM400X4ad on a Street Glide Special: ua-cam.com/video/6bfQunoc5k4/v-deo.html
How come my kit did not come with T harness?
I saw your message on facebook and asked where did you purchase the kit from? Was this the HD14RGSG-STAGE3 kit?
What about the amp settings? Where can we find that info?
Hi Jay, you can download the Tuning Guide here: rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1355
What's the price?
All US pricing is listed on our website here: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/hd14rgsg-stage3/
If you're outside the USA, you'll want to contact a local Authorized Rockford Fosgate dealer:
Where can I get the remote turn-on wire with the plug for the harness
If you already have the HD14RGSG-STAGE3 kit, the turn-on is the blue wire on the main harness that plugs into the brake side. You'll remove an empty connector to plug-in the blue wire that will allow the motorcycle voltage to turn-on the amplifier. If you're asking where you can purchase the cabling for the remote turn-on wire, this is included in our RFK-HD14 kit available here: www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/rfk-hd14/
Rockford Fosgate I got the punch 300 and in the wiring kit came with the blue wire just not the connector, thanks for the help
@@jon010685 Thanks Jonathan for that information. Correct, the PBR300X4 does not come with an H-D connector, only the motorcycle audio specific kits do.
Rockford Fosgate so what do I do to get that, is there a kit you can point me to, I have a road glide 2017
Also I’m putting up 6 speakers 2 amps
2 Emails later still nothing back from Rockford Fosgate regarding the head unit flash. So in my book there junk!!!!!!!!
Hi Chad, our support agents reply to emails within 24 hours. Just confirming you used our support site at www.rockfordfosgate.com/support . Also, our form recommends a suggested answer for faster service ... and sometimes people forget to click the FINISH SUBMITTING EMAIL button. Anyhoo, what was your question on the flash? We assume this is for a 14+ motorcycle using the GT, GT 6.5, or GTS radio. All 3 of them we suggest using the "Rockford Fosgate 2014+ All Bikes" flash.
this kit sucks I bought the stage 3 kit for my 03 roadglide and had a shop install it and in town I have the volume at 40 and I can't hear it on the freeway im 100% disappointed not worth the 2800 dollars I spent
Hi Cody, I read on your other msg that the installer didn’t use the quick disconnects we include in the kit, so I’m curious about the installation. There is a tuning guide for proper setup that we tend to see installers ignore. There are 2 important settings, 1) the radio pre-tune setup and 2) the amplifier settings. Here is the reference sheet for the tuning guide: www.rockfordfosgate.com/rnt/rnw/docs/1355/harleyamptuning_1998-2013_rfk-hd9813.pdf
@@rockfordfosgate I've done all of that all ready I downloaded this and adjusted it according to your settings and still no difference I've spoke with your technical support team and they told me to adjust the settings and I did and still can't hear it on the freeway and my wife can't hear it either when she is on the back maybe I just got a bad system or something
@@codyharris7288 I appreciate your time to double check the settings and working with our technical support. The only customers we hear saying it’s not loud enough are those without the proper radio preset and amplifier tune. I’m really at a loss because typically it’s more than loud enough… by chance, what are you using for your source material? Radio, USB, Bluetooth?
@@rockfordfosgate I'm using the pmx98-13 deck with Bluetooth I've tried it with different phones and with just the radio and USB and I adjusted the pre sets in the deck according to your Tec
@@codyharris7288 Following back up since I've been out of the office. Another thing I was thinking about is we see Bluetooth phone settings that have a big difference in audio loudness:
iOS > Settings > Music
- AUDIO > Cellular Streaming > High Quality
- AUDIO > EQ > Off
- AUDIO > Sound Check > Off
It would be worth testing audio loudness by using music loaded onto a USB Drive so we have a different music source.